WEBVTT - Star Wars Episode I: May the 4th Be With You

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie Jason X Men ninety seven. Man ah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>late latest episode, Tolerance is Extinction. We are recording this

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday morning, May the second, the day after that

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<v Speaker 1>episode came out. And this is the most Magneto was

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<v Speaker 1>right episode yet, to the point that there is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge monologue about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, coming from the most unlikely source as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what is my I'm just blown away at

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<v Speaker 1>how continuously hard this show is going. And yes, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that the most unlikely source just goes to show you,

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<v Speaker 1>like human allies are still human and it's mutants are

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<v Speaker 1>left to fend for themselves in an increasingly dangerous world.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, Magneto was right.

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<v Speaker 2>Magnea was right, baby. I mean, what an episode to

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<v Speaker 2>introduce a completely new origin to Bastion that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>makes him even stranger and avoids the siege perilous, which

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<v Speaker 2>we're obviously not going to get, and to just have

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<v Speaker 2>this great, you know, resolution of Magneto being right and

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<v Speaker 2>then having the reappearance of a certain professor. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just was so angry when he showed up and said

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<v Speaker 2>the words, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, how dare you? Just how dare you?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, what an episode and to get

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<v Speaker 2>those super cool cameos. It was very much in the

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<v Speaker 2>vein of that nineties animated Marvel stuff where all the

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<v Speaker 2>shows were crossover.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that was really exciting. I just I

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<v Speaker 3>can't believe how right they've got it.

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<v Speaker 1>They got it right.

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<v Speaker 3>Every point with this show. It's it's just such a delight.

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<v Speaker 1>One more thing, I am convinced that Bastian XPAN ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven Bastian is influenced heavily by zeb Wells, mister Sinister,

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<v Speaker 1>because oh yeah, he's so fun with how evil and

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<v Speaker 1>terrible he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and he's exceptionally campy. Yes, very very he's very campy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just aware of what he has to do and

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<v Speaker 2>he does it in an incredibly suave and terrible way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's wonderful to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we start the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosday Night,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome back to X Revision, the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>dive deep but dear favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture,

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<v Speaker 1>coming to you from my Heart Radio, where we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you two episodes a week every Tuesday and Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>And today we're hopping into our matching X Wings. I

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<v Speaker 1>always like the Y Wing, but you know, X Wings

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<v Speaker 1>are fine, and we are heading out into a galaxy far,

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<v Speaker 1>far far away to catch up on all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened in Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 2>So that means in today's episode, previously on, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>your Star Wars news, baby, your May fourth news, your

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<v Speaker 2>news from four months ago because we weren't here, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to talk about Star Wars Hunters, racepin off movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the airlock we're gonna break down that epping

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<v Speaker 2>and heartbreaking ending of the Bad Batch season three, the

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<v Speaker 2>final season, see what our.

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<v Speaker 3>Favorite clones have been up to.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the back matter, we're gonna explain what is

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<v Speaker 2>the Star Wars Expanded Universe, what Star Wars legends.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now you're gonna know. But first, previously on.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what it's May fourth, May the fourth be with You,

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<v Speaker 2>Revenge of the Fifth, etc. So we have a new

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<v Speaker 2>trailer for the Acolyte. The other Star Wars show we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting this year is Skeleton Crew, which does seem like

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming out. Kalida has a report saying it's coming

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<v Speaker 2>out in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that I think is really.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool that Joelle picked up on that I hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 2>of was John Watts, who was the Spider Man MCU

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<v Speaker 2>trilogy director.

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<v Speaker 3>Great director.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in charge of the Skeleton Crew room now and

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<v Speaker 2>he was at CCXP in Mexico City, their first Mexico

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<v Speaker 2>City version of the con dishing how he's mixed the

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<v Speaker 2>latest tech with some good old fashioned movie matt and

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<v Speaker 2>he's actually saying some stuff that if you're a Jurassic

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<v Speaker 2>Park fan, this is going to blow your mind. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to use all the cool stuff on my most

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<v Speaker 2>recent Star Wars show. We had previous moap, we shot

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<v Speaker 2>on the volume. We did everything, but the most fun

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<v Speaker 2>part was that we also used old school techniques as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Phil Tippett to do stop most. We did

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<v Speaker 2>mat painting, We did old fashion Matt paintings, ILM painter

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<v Speaker 2>out of retirement to come and do that. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff is fun, but it's just another tool and

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<v Speaker 2>it depends how you use it. So Phil Tippitt was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be doing the stop motion on the dinosaurs

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<v Speaker 2>for Jurassic Park. You can see those old reels on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube are incredible, and obviously he got replaced by the

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<v Speaker 2>guys at the upstart company at that point, ILM with

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<v Speaker 2>their amazing stop motion combo animatronic combo CG combo. But

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<v Speaker 2>Phil still got the famous credit of dinosaur supervisor. And

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that he is coming in is very very exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean he worked on Episode four or New Hope,

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<v Speaker 1>Empire Strikes Back, returning to the Jedi, among many many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many many many other films, both as a stop motion

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<v Speaker 1>guy and as as effects supervisor. This is really really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Other big news from May fourth weekend, they re released

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<v Speaker 3>The Phantom Menace, the much maligned Phantom Menace twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 3>anniversary this year, which is now.

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<v Speaker 1>The such beligne, much beloved.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and the kids grew up on it.

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<v Speaker 2>The gen Z kids love it, and I remember working

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<v Speaker 2>in the comic shop and they loved it. And in

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<v Speaker 2>a surprising twist, the Phantom Menace came in second place

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<v Speaker 2>at the box office this weekend, which is pretty huge

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<v Speaker 2>for a summer box office h weekend that you can

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<v Speaker 2>do a re release, and there was loads of fun

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that they did for it. You and McGregor showed

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<v Speaker 2>up at screening in Atlanta. We got to see once

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<v Speaker 2>again Armor Best, finally getting the respect he deserves and

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<v Speaker 2>getting to kind of reshape his.

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<v Speaker 3>Role in the Star Wars universe, which we love.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of Armor Best and Jar Jar Binks, Armor Best

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<v Speaker 2>will be returning for the new Star Wars animated series,

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<v Speaker 2>Rebuild the Galaxy, which is going to be a mashup

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<v Speaker 2>series celebrating the anniversary of Lego and Star Wars first collaboration.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're going to get to see Darth jar Jar Binks.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's crazy. I never thought I would see that.

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<v Speaker 2>There was also a fortnit Star Wars update. You can

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<v Speaker 2>rescue Chubacca and then it'll give you his wookie bocaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you know if you defeat Darth Vader, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get his iconic lightsaber. We're also getting a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of new toys Hasbro vintage Attack of the Clones figures,

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<v Speaker 2>Black Series Darth Sidius if you want to say somehow

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<v Speaker 2>he returned. We're getting a half Boys Dark Luke if

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<v Speaker 2>you're feeling spenny and you want to spend some money,

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<v Speaker 2>and even a desuric board game if you've ever wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to play Star Wars chess.

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<v Speaker 3>So truly, just all kinds of exciting news this may fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up the Ray spinoff movie New Jedi Order. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Collider Quote, Kathleen Kennedy confirmed that the film will

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<v Speaker 1>introduce an all new era of the Star Wars timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>officially titled The New Jedi Order. As such, the film

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<v Speaker 1>is expected to follow Ray she works to rebuild the

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<v Speaker 1>Jedi Order now that her grandfather and her Palpatide and

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<v Speaker 1>this Citizen and the Citizen First Order have been defeated,

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<v Speaker 1>and recently in Variety, Daisy Ridley was quoted as saying

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<v Speaker 1>her meaning Charmine obay Chinoi's director, the director's plans for

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<v Speaker 1>this film, her idea for the story is cool as shit.

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<v Speaker 1>No spoilers, but she gave me a rundown of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire story. If it weren't amazing, I would have been like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>call me in years. But it's worthwhile. So that's very exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I when I was a kid and I was

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, and I was reading Expanded Universe books, everything

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<v Speaker 2>that I loved was like anything to do with Jedi

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<v Speaker 2>School yea as to the Empire, the Jedi Academy trilogy,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love anything to do with this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also like kind of of the mind that like,

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<v Speaker 2>if John Boyeg is not coming back, I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>care about it, Like I'm in that weird jewel space

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<v Speaker 2>of like I love Finn and I feel like John

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't treated well by Star Wars and lucasfilm as a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>so I feel bit sweet about it. But I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it's an interesting route and it would actually be

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<v Speaker 2>cool to see a real Jedi Academy story that isn't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a cartoon that is focused on reimagining the Jedi,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll be interested to see what kind of new

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<v Speaker 2>threat they invoke.

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<v Speaker 1>I am I'll get more into this topic when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about The Bad Batch, which just finished up its

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<v Speaker 1>excellent third and final season. But I am interested in

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<v Speaker 1>seeing how, if at all, Daisy and the Jedis have

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<v Speaker 1>learned from the mistakes of the past as they rebuild

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<v Speaker 1>the Jedi Order, because I think present in Bad Batch

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<v Speaker 1>is a really cutting critique of the way the Jedis

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<v Speaker 1>have run their affairs for centuries. We've talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah, so I'm sure people are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we go to the Jury's are bad, They're not bad,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just we'll talk about it imperfect. They're imperfect, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that how Ray deals with that imperfection, if

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<v Speaker 1>at all, is going to be faster.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be fascinating to me. Next up, Star wars Hunters,

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<v Speaker 1>a new free to play video game coming out June fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>Star wars Hunters by the developer the long running and

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<v Speaker 1>story developer Zinga. It is going to be an arena

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<v Speaker 1>shooter in the clearly in the vein of Fortnite folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they really want that Overwatch Fortnight vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to take a place on a cannon planet

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<v Speaker 2>a Vispara, which I think is very interesting, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be kind of like a cool arena battleground game.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not expecting it to be free to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Me neither, so I'm very.

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<v Speaker 2>Interested in that turn of events and kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>that means. I love the Switch that is still my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite console, so yeah, I'm I'm interested in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not usually like an arena player kind of guy

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<v Speaker 2>and more of a fighting game guy, but the character

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<v Speaker 2>designs look so cute, and I want to be a

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<v Speaker 2>Wookie with a giant sledge Hammer. Like, there's just so

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<v Speaker 2>many cool, like cartoony characters you got like Zana a

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<v Speaker 2>rebel war hero, scorer e Rodian saw Bones, Sentinel and

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<v Speaker 2>Imperial Heavy Gonna, oh Sprocket a monk, Kalamari prodigy. I

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<v Speaker 2>love Montcalorai char a tradeotion trapper. You know, it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like a fun roster throughout the Stars universe, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of us grew up playing you know, Masters

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<v Speaker 2>of Terras CARSI yeah, like these weirder like forgotten Star

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<v Speaker 2>Wars games, And in a way, I feel like this

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<v Speaker 2>is invoking that kind of more casual fun in the

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<v Speaker 2>world of Star Wars, but not like a Triple A,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Jedi Survivor, which we both loved and played extensively.

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<v Speaker 2>But I like the idea that this could be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more accessible for casual gamers.

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<v Speaker 1>And this being Star Wars. There is of course Italian

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<v Speaker 1>book Star Wars Hunters Battle for the Arena by Marc O'shiro.

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<v Speaker 1>The blurb is on the planet Vespara lies in the Arena,

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<v Speaker 1>a series of battlefields where fighter is known as Hunters,

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<v Speaker 1>face off in teams to compete in front of roaring

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<v Speaker 1>Crowds includes original illustrations based on the game. Came out

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<v Speaker 1>March seventh and looks fun if you want to know

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<v Speaker 1>more about the lore of Star Wars Hunters. Next up,

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<v Speaker 1>we open up the Airlock to talk about Bad Batch

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<v Speaker 1>Season the Street. We open following the events of season two.

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<v Speaker 1>Omega finds herself a prisoner of the Imperial cloning program

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<v Speaker 1>run by Royce Helmlock and the Camino and scientists. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Las Crosshair is also there, and Omega plots her escape

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<v Speaker 1>and she wants to take cross Hair with her and

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<v Speaker 1>she all and cross Hair is like, no, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And she also befriends a wonderful beast which she names

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<v Speaker 1>bad Batch. She names Batcher. Meanwhile, the bad Batch is

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<v Speaker 1>searching the galaxy for intel on Omega. They're rating various

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<v Speaker 1>Imperial bases try and find out how they can find her.

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<v Speaker 1>They meet some stranded clones along the way, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are increasingly getting more and more data on Hemlock's plans. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Palpatine get this Rosie very interested in something called Project Necromancer.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder, OK, so this is I think is actually

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<v Speaker 4>like so huge because it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it is actually huge since we've we saw poor

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar Isaac.

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<v Speaker 3>All he wanted in his life was to just have

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<v Speaker 3>Poe and Finn.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in a relationship, and instead they had him out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Immortal Words.

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<v Speaker 3>Somehow Palpatine has returned.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever since we've seen that, every single Star Wars project,

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<v Speaker 2>we've been like, when is it?

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<v Speaker 1>How did he return?

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<v Speaker 2>And it turns and they've been teasing it, you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>is it going to be in the Mandalorian?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it going to be here?

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<v Speaker 2>And they're like, boom, Project Necromancer, I'm gonna just he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's had his people working on it in an animated world,

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<v Speaker 2>in the live action world, but it seems like here

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<v Speaker 2>they're finally onto something.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is a very controversial project. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>on many levels.

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<v Speaker 1>Top secret project, very controversial, very few people know about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and also very clearly in beta because basically it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>work unless they get Omega back bits, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>other things that they've done. And I made this clone,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like just me another one. They they they

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<v Speaker 1>which is why they have Noveleds say there of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just they're in this bottle neck because they

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have Omega. What is Project Necromancer interested in it's

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<v Speaker 1>interested in individuals with a high m count. What could

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<v Speaker 1>that be a minty Glorias da Glorians of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>our but our characters don't know that. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>anything like us, you spent several episodes, you know, seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of this of the season saying it's mina Clorian's.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Omega's blood is very promising in this regard,

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<v Speaker 1>and nals Say, who has all kinds of concerns and

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<v Speaker 1>doubts about the program and the direction of the program,

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<v Speaker 1>warns Omega like, you're in danger. Girl escapes despite crosshairs objections.

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<v Speaker 1>She takes him with her Omeia Crossair go on the Lamb.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very very odd couple stuff where Crosshair is

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<v Speaker 1>always like, well, we could kill them and take this ship,

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<v Speaker 1>and Omega's like, no, no, We're not just gonna kill

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<v Speaker 1>people and take their ships and stuff. Eventually they reunite

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<v Speaker 1>with Hunter and Recker, who are very happy to see

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<v Speaker 1>Omega and really kind of not that happy to see Crosshairs,

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<v Speaker 1>but very interested in saving all the clones that they

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<v Speaker 1>can save who have been either stranded or left behind

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<v Speaker 1>or otherwise abused by the Empire. In the wake of

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<v Speaker 1>Order sixty six, Omega and the Reunited Batch investigate what

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<v Speaker 1>the Empires up to on Tantis. They need to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to know what's going on there. It's where

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<v Speaker 1>Project Necromancer's going on. They rate an other abandoned base

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<v Speaker 1>on the snow planet Part and four to unlock a

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<v Speaker 1>data path that Omega has to get more information about Tantis,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have no idea where Tantis is. Still we

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<v Speaker 1>meet up with Rex and his band of road Clones.

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<v Speaker 1>They're working as bodyguards to a ex separatist senator. They're

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<v Speaker 1>also trying to kind of foment rebellion against the Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>They come against a clone named CX one. Now there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bad things going on on tantas Rosie

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. One of them is a Clone assassin.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the Born Identity but for clones, where they

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<v Speaker 1>take the.

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<v Speaker 2>Clone's terrifying sniper Clone.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrible, and they even and they take these clones and

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<v Speaker 1>they break their minds even further than you would think

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<v Speaker 1>would be safe and find to do and create these

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<v Speaker 1>just killers who are completely dispensable. Now Rex and crew

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<v Speaker 1>pretty shockingly easily take a CX one hostage and they

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<v Speaker 1>and they start interrogating him. They want to know, like

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<v Speaker 1>what do you know? So what happens? Hemlock is like,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll send another one to like go take care of

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<v Speaker 1>CX one because we don't want CX one talking, So

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<v Speaker 1>they send another assassin to go kill c X one.

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<v Speaker 1>The new assassin CX two gets yes, learns that Omega

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<v Speaker 1>is alive and is with the bad Batch, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they have a location on her. They send an Imperial

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<v Speaker 1>strike team over there to the planet Pabu where they're

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<v Speaker 1>all hanging out, led by Lieutenant Hilo and our good

0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.919
<v Speaker 1>friend Commander Wolf. They are surprised to be attacking a

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<v Speaker 1>group of clones and in the chaos, the Batch and

0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 1>other clones they escape. C X two pursues them. The

0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Batch gets in a ship, which X two shoots down.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf is like, hey, we need Omega live, don't shoot

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<v Speaker 1>down the ship. What the fuck are you doing? And

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<v Speaker 1>then Rex meets Wolf as they're about to escape. Wolf

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<v Speaker 1>is about to arrest them, and Rex is like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what they're doing? They're hunting little kids. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a part of this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're experimenting on clones.

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<v Speaker 1>They're and then hunting children, like that's what you're that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you do now, and Wolf is like, okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys can go.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys, that sucks. I'm sorry, that's that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is like laying low on Pabus so they can

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<v Speaker 1>like figure out what does m count mean? Guys?

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<v Speaker 3>Just ask anyone, Ask anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry it's been Dave Felony, I love you and

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<v Speaker 2>I love this show, but it's been too long since the.

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<v Speaker 3>Terror of Midiclorians was introduced into Star.

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<v Speaker 2>Wars canon and became the world's biggest controversy at the

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<v Speaker 2>time for us to pretend we don't know what m

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<v Speaker 2>count means.

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<v Speaker 3>It definitely means Midiclorians, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And there they learn from Fee that the Empire, in

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<v Speaker 1>their hunt for high am count individuals, is using bounty

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<v Speaker 1>hunters to hunt kids. So omay, it's like, well, you know,

0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I know about a bounty hunter Phenix Shan. What if

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<v Speaker 1>we what if we contact Fanic and ask if she's

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<v Speaker 1>ever been hired or knows anybody who's done one of

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.919
<v Speaker 1>these m count hunts. And they meet up with her

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<v Speaker 1>and they do a little job with her, and she

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<v Speaker 1>gives them a little bit of information and then immediately

0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:22.159
<v Speaker 1>betrays them to someone else. Meanwhile, Omega teaches Crosshair to

0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.560
<v Speaker 1>meditate like the Wookies on cash Sheet. Now take this

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:33.720
<v Speaker 1>fact the meditation. Also take Omega's bond with Batcher the

0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:38.600
<v Speaker 1>hound Batcher, Okay, and just put that in your pocket

0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>for a second, because I want to return to those

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<v Speaker 1>two yeale things.

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<v Speaker 3>Ask me too, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I just want to say, like, this is such

0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:49.920
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of funny in a way, how this I'm

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 2>X Men ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they both suffered from but also.

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<v Speaker 2>Get gaining something from the lack of promotion around them

0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.239
<v Speaker 2>when reading the different names and things that happen in

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, in these episodes where it's like Fenick Shan's there, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Feels like a huge moment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know who she betrays them to, that's gonna be

0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.679
<v Speaker 2>a huge, huge anyway. And so instead of kind of

0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.520
<v Speaker 2>this being promoted as like it's the final episodes, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to see it. It kind of dropped on Disney Plus.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like it's getting even just since it dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like word of mouth, word of mouth, word of mouth,

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 2>word of mouth, word of mouth, and it's interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like X Men ninety seven is the same

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<v Speaker 2>way the way that's been dropping that is like a

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<v Speaker 2>weekly show that is the water cooler show right now,

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<v Speaker 2>especially since Shogun ended, but Disney hasn't necessarily.

0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:43.800
<v Speaker 3>Promoted it that way.

0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 2>But it's that animation is not seen in the same

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<v Speaker 2>way as live action, and it's just funny because when

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 2>you're reading these things, I'm like, if this was an

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<v Speaker 2>episode of The Mandalorian or something, everyone would be like

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 2>losing that. But yeah, yeah, yeah, let's I want to

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.480
<v Speaker 2>talk more about about those things. But also I just

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:03.280
<v Speaker 2>want to say something that I think is really cool

0:22:03.280 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 2>about this that again leans into that way that all

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.320
<v Speaker 2>these things intersect, is that, you know, Kieran Gillen was

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 2>doing weird Palpatine experiments in his Darth Veda comics. Yes,

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and he had you know, Darth Veder kind of saying

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.639
<v Speaker 2>this is an abomination, like you shouldn't do this, and

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:26.000
<v Speaker 2>we get like a reference almost to that here when

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<v Speaker 2>Palpatine's like people who think this would be an abomination,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, ohh and I love that they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I love the impact that someone writing a comic

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<v Speaker 2>can impact this show that comes out like seven years later.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that that collaborative building blocks is what

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<v Speaker 2>makes this stuff so exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. Turns out that Fennick dimed the batch

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<v Speaker 1>out to none other than our favorite assage ventress eh

0:22:56.160 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Or sensitive das Amerian outlaw tells the batch what everyone

0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 1>has been dying to say about m count, that it's

0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Midichlorian's alan. She runs Omega through a bunch of different exercises.

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:15.640
<v Speaker 1>In doing so, she also has to like mind bond

0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>with this huge like squid beast and get it to

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>calm down. Then she tells the batch that Omega's yeah,

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.119
<v Speaker 1>the tests are normal. She's like nothing, nothing weird, no

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:32.159
<v Speaker 1>high m count. They know she's lying, okay, And remember

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the thing I said about the the meditation, the bonding

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<v Speaker 1>with the with Bacher, the hound. Take that out of

0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.919
<v Speaker 1>your pocket. Now, we just saw Venturs bond with a beast.

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>We have seen Omega do it as well. We know

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:53.159
<v Speaker 1>that jedis fucking love to meditate. Omega's doing these things instinctively.

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<v Speaker 1>She clearly has a connection to the forest house strong.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know, But why is my just lying about it?

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<v Speaker 3>This is like fascinating, I know, so Is she trying

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 3>to protect her? That's what I know? Is it because

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:08.600
<v Speaker 3>her m count is so high?

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I thought it's interesting the way that they kind

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 2>of they're like, oh, midichlorians can predict an individual's connection

0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to the force, whereas as we've known it before, it's

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 2>it's a direct.

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Act if hospital, Yeah, it's causality.

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.679
<v Speaker 3>So I like this kind of loosening of what a mediclorian.

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Can mean, because that was not a huge popular choice

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 2>when they added midichlorians to the cannon. But why is

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:34.919
<v Speaker 2>she lying? I think, is she protecting her? Is it

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 2>because her m count is so high? Is it because

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 2>she knows what Palpatine is planning and she doesn't want

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting.

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Because like we know that. So speaking of.

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:51.120
<v Speaker 2>The expanded universe, right in the books, Han Solo has

0:24:51.200 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 2>kids called Jason and Jana, and Jason is very connected

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 2>to animals. That's like his force power, and whenever it

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:01.199
<v Speaker 2>comes up, I always think of Jason.

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.240
<v Speaker 3>I always think of that.

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 2>The bond between nature and humanity and how that is

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like a huge part of the force. And I think

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>it's really interesting to see it here because it usually

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>means someone's force powers are immense. Yeah, and there's something

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.239
<v Speaker 2>there that is special about them.

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, for Jason went terribly wrong. If you've seen the

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 3>sequel movies.

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Kylo Ren is very heavily influenced by Jason. But I'm

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm very interested in what this means for Omega. I

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:31.680
<v Speaker 2>want to see Omega become, you know, a main core

0:25:32.240 --> 0:25:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Star Wars character, because she's so interesting and clearly they

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 2>they're planning more for her beyond the finale.

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:44.560
<v Speaker 1>What's also fascinating with this scene is Venturos then says, well,

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, if she did have a connection to the Force,

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>because Hunter basically says, why are you lying? You know,

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>just straight out asks her, why are you lying about this?

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:58.520
<v Speaker 1>She says, well, and you know, if she did have

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>a connection of the Force, she'd need to be trained.

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 1>The Empire's going to come after, she'd need to be trained.

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 1>That means she would have to leave you forever for

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:10.919
<v Speaker 1>years to go undergo her training. Is that okay? And

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 1>the Hunters like that will never happen. And to your

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>point about protection and I'm going to come back to

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>this topic later after what we see, when we see

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 1>the truth about Project Necromancer, because to me, what I

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>think Venturess is protecting her from is the way that

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<v Speaker 1>Force users are exploited and treated. I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>think Venturess maybe has come to a place where she's like, Okay,

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>give this connection to the force. You didn't choose that,

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.360
<v Speaker 1>But why can't you just have a connection to the force.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you have to develop it? Why does it

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<v Speaker 1>have to be developed to Who does it benefit? What

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<v Speaker 1>does it benefit anyone that all these kids are trained

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:50.679
<v Speaker 1>as Jedi or Sith or whatever it Actually, certainly they

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>don't get any benefit out of it because most of

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:53.400
<v Speaker 1>them get killed.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Over time, exactly exactly, And that's like, I love that read.

0:26:57.760 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>So that's what I think ventures is saying, is like,

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 1>opt out of all of this. Don't even pursue it,

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>don't care about it.

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Just don't care about it. Yeah, it's not important. You're

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 3>just a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on Tantis, doctor Carr takes over for Nalisa after

0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:16.159
<v Speaker 1>Hemlock throws Nalis in the brig. Hemlock is under huge

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>pressure to take Project Necromancer out of Beta, move it

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 1>at least into Alpha, and of course he needs Omega's

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>blood to do that. Car However, as she's seeing the

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>true face of project Necromancer that it's it's all the

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>experimental subjects are kids, begins to become attached to these

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>children and is gradually growing disillusioned with the the you know.

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Turns out the Empire's bad Doctor Carr Are you kidding me?

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>C x two manages to get to Pabu After torturing

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Sid for information, he confirms that Omega is there. Imperial

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>forces shortly thereafter arrive on the planet and just start

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>blowing everything up indiscriminately, firing like at anything that moves.

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>The Bad Batch tries to escape, but in the running

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>fight that ensues, Record is pretty seriously wounded. A hunter

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 1>is shot out of the sky. Omega is distraught. She's

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>seeing her friends and the regular citizens of Paboo getting

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>getting visited by terrible destruction, so she surrenders. She's like,

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>just stop all this and take me, take me to Tantas.

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>C x two takes her away. Hemlock welcomes Omega back,

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>puts her under the care of doctor Carr, who begins

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>immediately running tests. Meanwhile, the Bad Batch is like, we

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta find her. They're reading they this is a crazy

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>twist that I did not say see coming. They raid

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>an Imperial concentration camp to free none other than our

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>good friend, former Imperial Admiral Rampart, who they think, well,

0:28:56.120 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what very rogue one of he doesn't

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>know where Yeah, super rogue one, he doesn't know where

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>it is, but he's like, you know what, I'll help you.

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>And of course, you know the whole time that Rampart

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>just wants to get back in the Empire. Anyway, back

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>on Tantas, Omega's tests come back and they're just what

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Hemlock was hoping for. He takes her down to the vault.

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>The horror now of Project Necromancer becomes clear as Omega

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>meets her fellow prisoners and all of them are children

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>like herself, and she vows, I've escaped ones I'm gonna

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>fucking do it again. Meanwhile, of course, the Batch and

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Rampart meet up with Echo. They hijack an Imperial shuttle

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and their whole thing is like, we got to get

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, how do we sneak on this shuttle? And

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>they have this whole plan that falls apart. But long

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>story short, they managed to like attach their shuttle to

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a ship that's jumping to light speed that's going to tantus.

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 1>Hemlock gets worried that the bad batcher coming. He starts

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>shooting at them immediately as they enter like orbit and

0:29:55.520 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>now the big shit is the big climaxes happening at once.

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Omega hears the cannon. She knows her friends are here.

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>She starts putting her plans into motion. The batch crash.

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>They're in the jungle, They're getting chased by beasts, They're

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>getting fired at by stormtroopers. C X two is trying

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to kill them. Meanwhile, Echo has managed to sneak into

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the base, where he gets a shocking assist from a

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>conscious stricken Doctor car. I want to say this, you know,

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a plot story whatever. For me, it's like, how do

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel when I watch something exactly doctor Carr's strike

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of like her conscience starting to nag at her. I

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>think was one of the most emotional things I've seen

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>in a Star Wars story in a long time.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to say, like, I think that one

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>of the things that Dave Filoni's always been fantastic about

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 2>in these spaces is adding the nuance that you don't

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 2>often get, you know, the kind of conversations we always

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>have of like you know, what.

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 3>About the people who worked on the Death Star, Like

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 3>what about that?

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>And here you actually get to see someone have an

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>emotion journey who otherwise would have just been like another

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>dead body that got shot when you're trying to escape.

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that emotional nuance in space is

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 2>very interesting. And I also think something that and we'll

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>get to this, I'll kind of talk about it more,

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 2>but it's very interesting because I would say this is

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>like a heartbreaking emotional finale, but it's also not all

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>bad news. But they managed to be good news and

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>goodness with this kind of really heartbreaking, horrible story about

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>these children being you know, experimented on.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, and with what Venturis said to Hunter about the

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>way the Jedi is trained. To me, I couldn't stop

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>thinking about how this is also like an oblique criticism

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>of the Jedi, who do the exact same thing kidnap kids,

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>take them to Coruscant to train, and your parents never

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>seen them again, and they go through all these.

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:57.959
<v Speaker 3>Religions your parents in slavery.

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And honestly, what's the difference. It's like you make it.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>If we're right about Venturis, is, does she not have

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a point like forget all of it, forget Jedi, forget

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>training to be a Sith, forget all of it, and

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>just go be anonymous in the galaxy.

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 2>It is extremely silly as well when you think about it,

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 2>because the truth is Jedis will just take you away

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 2>from your family, train you all your life. But then

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 2>fucking Luke Skywalker just got trained for like three days

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 2>in a fucking bog and he was an emergency. Yeah,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like, you can do a summer camp

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:37.239
<v Speaker 2>version when you take children away from their families, but

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:41.120
<v Speaker 2>it is about essentially training child soldiers. And also, I

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.239
<v Speaker 2>mean even just the rules of the Jedi. You know,

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>you can't love, you can't.

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Feel anger, like all that stuff is very repressive.

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Like we've talked about this over many years, and this

0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>is what it is to be a fan is to

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>look at this stuff and go wait a minute, And

0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 3>It's more complex than it appears, and I love that they.

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Chose to explore that in this series and kind of

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 2>once again, like the Last Jedi did, like ask a

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 2>question about what is the purpose of the Jedi and

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and how does it feel to be in that situation

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and would you be better off without it, and in

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Omega's case, the answer is definitely yes, I would rather

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 2>she stayed with had like ten dads.

0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Omega launches her escape plan proper, their their Imperial Droid

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>ally drugs are guard, they escape, They free a zillobeast

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 1>again seeing Omega's easy bond with creatures and animals, the

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Zillobees fucking goes Godzilla on base. Uh. Doctor Carr and

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Echo learned that Omega and the kids have escaped, and

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Hemlock is like, car, go find Omega or else. And meanwhile,

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>standing next to Doctor Carr is Echo in disguised storm troopers. Guys.

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>They're like, Bett, we were already planning to do that. Meanwhile,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in a juggle, Crosshair wants to sneak into the base

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>of Loone but like Wrecord is badly injured and uh,

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>and Hunter, who he's just begin to rebuild his relationship with,

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 1>is there and he's like, I want to go in

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>because if you guys die, then Omega is alone. This

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>was like a really for me, powerful full circle moment

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>for the Crosshair journey. Another really good dark like light

0:34:21.840 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to dark back to light journey for a character that

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I just and that's.

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 2>That's that complexity that we don't always get in the

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 2>movies when you've got like two hours, Like this has

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>been a journey throughout of becoming being rogue, then becoming

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 2>a villain, then coming back to the light. And I

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 2>think that that is like shows that same complexity of

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>thing about Luke Skywalker when he was training Kylo Wren

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:49.840
<v Speaker 2>and he saw a moment of darkness and he was

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:51.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna kill his nephew.

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes, him, he was killing.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 2>People's gonna be They can be tempted by the dark.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 2>They can they can make mistakes, they can do villainous things,

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 2>but they can also come back to the light. And

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's such a powerful story.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Then all of a sudden, when they're kind of arguing

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:14.919
<v Speaker 1>about this, they watch an OWZ the Zillo Godzilla's out

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>of the outer wall of the base, so they're like, oh, perfect,

0:35:19.400 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>let's go in there. They go in there and they

0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>meet immediate vicious resistance from the ex Clone commandos and

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>early versions of the Stormtroopers. They're taken prisoner. Echo and

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 1>doctor carfind Omega and the kids. Car loads the kids

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.239
<v Speaker 1>onto a shuttle onto her shuttle to get them off

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the planet. They leave, Echo and Omega go back to

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>rescue the Batch and the other and the other clones. Now,

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say this. The base is like

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>under heavy attack. It's half wrecked. Their prime test subject, Omega,

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>she's in the wind. Nobody knows where the fuck she is.

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>A zill O beast just punched through the base. Nonetheless,

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Hemlock can't resist taking the opportunity to be like, you

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:07.919
<v Speaker 1>know what, hey, hold my calls, I'm going to take

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>a hunter wrecker and crosshair and I'm gonna wipe their minds,

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>however long taken. I'm just going to do a little

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>mind wiping. I understand this is an emergency. The base

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>is literally on fire, but hold all like a hole

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>in the wall.

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.879
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I gotta do some mind wiping, Like.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>You just can't wait anyway, Echoing Omega free the other prisoners,

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 1>including Nala, say, Nala is determined to keep the science data,

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>which she considers Camino and IP from the Empire. But

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>now I am all for what Nala is trying to

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 1>destroy the data. But let's be clear, she wants to

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>destroy the data because she feels it's the property of Camino. Yeah,

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>any moral and anyway, she's shot by Rampart, who's thinking, oh,

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>if I get this info, like, I can use it

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to leverage my way back into the Empire, which is crazy.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>That's never gonna happen. Anyway, she shot by Rampart. As

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>she dies, she lets go of a grenade, kills them both,

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>kills all the data, wipes all the data. Wonderful. Hemlock

0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>then squares off against Omega and the Batch. He gets killed,

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Hunter and Wrecker, everybody are freed. They all make their

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.320
<v Speaker 1>way to Pabo, along with doctor Carr and the kids.

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 1>We fast forward. Tarkan learns that okay, well, Project Necromancer

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>is a bust. All the fucking data every time with

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>these people.

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 2>How many how many Palpatine cloning exercises have we seen

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>go wrong since this company was cleaned?

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:48.600
<v Speaker 3>Too many?

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Like lists, You guys are flopping.

0:37:51.800 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 3>You had the gro you.

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Had grogu to baby and then that was terrible. You

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 2>did this with the Mega terrible. You guys are so

0:37:59.400 --> 0:37:59.840
<v Speaker 2>bad at that.

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Rome wasn't built in a day. It's gonna take a

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 1>few other tries. But right now, listen that the Empire

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.399
<v Speaker 1>does not have infinite resources, so we need to take

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:15.800
<v Speaker 1>this funding from Project Necromancer, and we need to divert it,

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Moth Tarkin says to Project Stardust, which we all know

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>is the death Star Dunk Dunk Dunn. And then years

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>later we see an adult Omega join the Rebellion. I

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>have a million questions about that, Rosie. Your thoughts about

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.320
<v Speaker 1>season three of The Bad Batch.

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 3>I love this engine yet, I love this show.

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I love if it exists.

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:42.399
<v Speaker 2>I am just incredibly incredible high note to end on. Yeah,

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and I love it was surprisingly happy ending ish. Yes,

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, more people, more of the Batch survived than

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I expected.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was gonna be a rogue one situation.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 3>I thought everybody but Omega does the situation.

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>We also get crosshad losing his hand, which is like

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 2>a classic Star Wars situation. You know. Yeah, I just

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was delightful and I'm very I

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.440
<v Speaker 2>want to know more about Omega because that is like

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:13.399
<v Speaker 2>I love her. I also kind of love how when

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.959
<v Speaker 2>Omega was introduced. When they bought The Bad Batch back,

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 2>it was like, oh my god, they've given them a

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>kid's sidekick, Like this is gonna suck, Like that was

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 2>the general response. But I love a kid sidekick historically,

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.439
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like Omega has really become a fan

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 2>favorite character. And I feel like they did a great

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:35.439
<v Speaker 2>job of making her a part of the batch rather

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 2>than making her a kind of like Dorfy, like now

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 2>kids can watch this when it was always a kids show,

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.240
<v Speaker 2>and instead she became like the emotional heart of the group.

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 2>And I really want to see more stories with her.

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited about this time skip situation.

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 3>But what does it mean?

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Like that is what I want?

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>And when are we gonna see? Are we going to

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 2>see her again? Because what does the timeline mean?

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Like what do you think?

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean? I have no idea, but that's

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>what I want to know. What was her role in

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:10.439
<v Speaker 1>the coming rebellion? If any how active was she? Did

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>her connection to the force develop at all? Do people

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>know that she's? Like how open is she about her

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>history as a clone? And then who's left at that stage? Clone?

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Was like do we have does she have any of

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that found family around her by the time she's an adult?

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Still I have a ton of questions, And it's that

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 1>same question I have with any of this, with any

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that's happened on Disney plus or elsewhere

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the animated shows that fill in the holes anything from

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the Felony Ooves. How does this connect with the major

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>stories that we know. That's what I can't wait to

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:54.799
<v Speaker 1>find out.

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 2>That is always the most interesting thing is you know,

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 2>where was this character during the rebellion or whatever? And

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 2>the answer is they didn't exist. Then that's why they're

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>not in the story. That's the narrative reason. But we

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:10.359
<v Speaker 2>want to know the in world story reasons. We want

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:13.240
<v Speaker 2>to find out where these characters were, how they played

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>into it. That's what I think Rogue One did so

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 2>fantastically is it added this context so that every single

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>time you watch a new Hope, you are thinking about

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Rogue one and the sacrifices that were made. And I

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 2>feel like these animated series for people like us who

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 2>really love them, they have also added that. So I'm

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>interested to see where that goes and kind of what

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.839
<v Speaker 2>we're going to see in Mandalorian and Grogu and how

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Omega potentially plays into that. Okay, so we got a

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:48.760
<v Speaker 2>new Star Wars animated series, Tales of the Empire, released

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 2>on May fourth, of course, and this is a different

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of animated series than we've had before. The official

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>description is thus, journey into the fierce Galactic Empire through

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 2>the eyes of two warriors on divergent paths set during

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 2>different eras. After losing everything, young Morgan Elsbeth navigates the

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 2>expanding Imperial world towards a path of vengeance, while former

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 2>officer Jedi barriss Offi, whoa does what she must to

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 2>survive a rapidly changing galaxy. Their choices will define their destinies. Jason,

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 2>what did you think.

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was good. I certainly enjoyed the barrass

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Offee episodes, the back half of the six episodes a

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>lot more than the Morgan Elsbeth centric episodes, because it

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.760
<v Speaker 1>was something that I think we've never really seen before,

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>which was a Jedi indoctrinated into the ranks of the Inquisitors,

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 1>and what that would be like for a Jedi who

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to maintain a grasp on their morals and on

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>their feelings, you know. And it made me think of

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a thing that we've talked about a lot, and which

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm concerned about a lot when I watched Star Wars,

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>which is like this deteriorating delineation between light and dark,

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Like here is a character that goes almost full dark,

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:25.279
<v Speaker 1>like you know, stuff happens towards the end where all

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden barrass is like, oh wait a second,

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess the Inquisitors are bad and I shouldn't do

0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>but like she's been going on missions with the Inquisitors

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 1>for x amount of time before she realizes fully that

0:43:37.440 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 1>they're bad, Like this can't be the first time she's like,

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:41.359
<v Speaker 1>oh wait, I guess the Inquisitors are bad.

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 2>And she.

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Is able to like pull back from even you can't

0:43:48.640 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>even say the brink. She went beyond the brink. So

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>what we're seeing again is this ability to navigate between

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>light and dark, where you can cross over into the

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 1>dark and maybe pull back to a I thought that

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.919
<v Speaker 1>was really interesting. What did you think?

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I I agree with you completely. I felt

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 2>like this was very expanded universe. Like there's actually an

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 2>old EU book called Tales from the Empire that was

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.279
<v Speaker 2>like a short story thing. I definitely feel like this

0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 2>is in that space, that same space of just adding

0:44:21.200 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 2>in some important historical context.

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was interesting to see the fall of

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 3>the Night Sisters.

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was interesting and get to kind of

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 2>see how unprepared. They were for old Grievy, General Grievous

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 2>to like, come, I just love him.

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't help it.

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 3>He's he's a bad guy, but I just he's so cool.

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 2>But getting to see that kind of play out, see

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the Separatist Army with battling the Night Sisters, and also

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>getting to see where the connection between Morgan and Thron

0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 2>came from. Also, I think something that's very interesting about

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 2>this and I think we can which is good for

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 2>me because I the Datha Marian Knight Sister stuff. I

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>think they're starting to do with the Night Sisters what

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 2>they did with the Jedis, which we always joke about,

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 2>which is like Order sixty six who survived, Oh nobody survived.

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.320
<v Speaker 3>They wiped out all the Jedi. No, they didn't, And

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 3>in the canon.

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 2>We only thought that it was Darth Moore and a

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Sarge Ventress who really survived the Master of the Night Sisters.

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Now we know Morgan Elsbeth did. And I think they're

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna start building out these cosmic magic characters and showcasing

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 2>their impact on the galaxy in a way that we

0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:36.480
<v Speaker 2>haven't really seen before.

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Morgan's kind of her rise.

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm like that's cool, but I was most interested in

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:46.839
<v Speaker 2>sort of seeing the ways that she navigated the galaxy too,

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and kind of how she came into contact with Drawn

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and that space. I liked the concept of doing these short,

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 2>spunky Star Wars stories, but I will say I think

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 2>both of these characters could have been better served by

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 2>like an animated movie or something.

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's a way where I would have

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 2>liked to see them more cohesive. I love these kind

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 2>of short stories for more wacky, like when we got

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 2>to see Yaddle yeah and kind of see how brave

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Yaddle was and that interesting fight between her and what

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 2>her fate was and her disagreements.

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:26.600
<v Speaker 3>With the Jedi.

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I kind of like the wacky secondary characters where I

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like both of these are quite like key villains.

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I agree.

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>The thing that the one thing they've kind of made

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>me sit forward during Elsbeth's episodes is kind of getting

0:46:43.040 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a taste of how incompetent the New Republic is. I think, oh,

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, listen, let's give them some credit in

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's a really hard job, and democracy in general

0:46:55.160 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 1>is a lot more chaotic and loud then you know,

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>one person rule under the Emperor, there's gonna be a

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.879
<v Speaker 1>lot of you knows, you allow voices to rise, there's

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of disagreements, and thus there are.

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>But it was like shocking to see how how unprepared

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the New Republic is to impress the force of their

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>authority across the galaxy. I think that was one of

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the most interesting things to me in that first three

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 1>episode arc.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Aboo raises a great point, and he just

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:35.200
<v Speaker 2>popped in the chat like what's the purpose of these

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:39.240
<v Speaker 2>tales shorts? Like what are they thinking strategically here? Because

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>if a kid watches these, is this going to be

0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:43.720
<v Speaker 2>their entry point into Star Wars?

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure? Like is it for people like us

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.320
<v Speaker 3>who want to see these things expanded on? What do

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 3>they do next?

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 2>We've had, you know, Tales of the Jedi, now we've

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.279
<v Speaker 2>had Tales of the Empire. Are we going to get

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 2>a different space where we're sort of like Tales of

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the Outer Rim? Like?

0:47:58.120 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 3>What what is the plan?

0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a great question, and I think it's this. I

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>think these stories these properties much like the Clone Wars before,

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it is kind of like batting practice. Listen, what's the

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>thing that we didn't see in any of the May

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>the fourth News, New movie news. Really yeah, it's just

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it's happening. It's just it's happening. But like all those

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>all those projects are in some stage of pre production, right,

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>meaning like no sets, no nothing concrete, and projects like

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that go away often more often than not, you hear,

0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>oh this this thing is in pre production. The you know,

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the Game of Thrones prequel is in pre production, the

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:52.680
<v Speaker 1>John snow a sequel is and then what happens those

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 1>things go away? They're looking to go back to the

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 1>box office in a big way, right, in a big way.

0:48:59.880 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 1>That's the missing piece right now for Star Wars. And

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 1>that's where Star Wars really really moves the needle as

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:13.360
<v Speaker 1>a cultural force. You know, we love the Disney plus stuff.

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people do, a lot of Star Wars

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 1>fans do, a lot of general nerd fans do, but

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.839
<v Speaker 1>it's not the thing that moves the needle for Star

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Wars as an ip and I think this is how

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 1>they find the storylines, the things that move the audience

0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that they can then say, okay, we have this, we

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>know this kind of works. How do we translate this

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 1>into whatever our next movie project? Is because that's what

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>they want to do, that's where they want to go

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 1>is get back to the box office.

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 3>I think that's such a great point. And also I

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:47.840
<v Speaker 3>think that connected.

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.080
<v Speaker 2>To that is that these are probably projects that got

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>green lit when they were trying to make so much

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 2>content on Disney Plus, so they might actually not necessarily

0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 2>have a bigger plan for these outside of what you're saying,

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>which is like do these characters hit people are about?

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 2>What are they talking about? Almost a testing ground because

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.360
<v Speaker 2>that first Star Wars movie needs to be a billion

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:14.760
<v Speaker 2>dollar movie, especially with the delay. Yeah, I'm very interested

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:16.719
<v Speaker 2>to see I mean, I wouldn't be surprised as much

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 2>as I want new stories in the Galaxy. The next

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 2>one will be Star Wars ten. It would be Star

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Wars X, you know, episode ten. So I wouldn't be

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 2>surprised if we see a turn more towards something like

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:31.399
<v Speaker 2>that as they get closer to deciding what the next

0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:33.399
<v Speaker 2>movie will be. But I'd love to see the weird

0:50:33.520 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 2>origins of the Force. I'm interested to see what they

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 2>do with the Jedi Academy. But yeah, I think you're

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 2>right on the number.

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Then.

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in this week's back matter, we're answering what is

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:58.279
<v Speaker 2>the Star Wars Expanded Universe. I talk about it a

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:01.319
<v Speaker 2>lot because I am a complete nerd who grew up

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 2>reading boxes of books from car boot sales, and many

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:05.759
<v Speaker 2>of them were Star Wars Expanded un of us books.

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 2>It is now known as Legends, and it was for

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:16.800
<v Speaker 2>many years a cannon space in Star Wars, which began

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:22.240
<v Speaker 2>with a serialized adaptation of Star Wars that was released

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 2>six months before the movie.

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Even came out.

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Crazy, And then you had Splinter of the Mind's Eye,

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 2>which was seen as a potential sequel by their sci

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 2>fi legend Alan Deine Foster, and it was made so

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.439
<v Speaker 2>that if the movie didn't do well enough, they could

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>adapt the book as a low budget sequel, and that

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 2>was kind of the origins of what would become the

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Expanded Universe, and over years it would until twenty fourteen,

0:51:50.200 --> 0:51:55.239
<v Speaker 2>encompass hundreds and hundreds of books, comics, video games. There

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 2>was a big video game comic crossover that Dark Horse did.

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<v Speaker 2>You got some classics like Era of the Empire. That's

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<v Speaker 2>where Timothy Zhn's trilogy that began with that book that

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<v Speaker 2>ended up introducing Thraun Granddadmiral Thorn. You had Star Wars

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<v Speaker 2>Young Jedi Knights my favorite. That's where we learned about

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<v Speaker 2>Luke's nis and nephew and Lea's kids, Jason and Jane

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<v Speaker 2>are tales from Java's Palace, which was a short story book,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where we learned that Boba Fett actually survived

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<v Speaker 2>something that we saw adapted directly in Book of Bobaffett

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<v Speaker 2>where he climbs out of the starleac pit's stomachs. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there were hundreds of books, many of them that

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<v Speaker 2>contained continuous storytelling, and basically anything that was written there

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<v Speaker 2>was considered canon, which meant we got some really cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and nine, there was a book by

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Schreiber called Death Troopers, which is a zombie stormtrooper

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<v Speaker 2>story kind of like Alien where they go on a

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<v Speaker 2>star destroyer that's abandoned in space and they find out

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<v Speaker 2>that there are these kind of zombie stormtroopers on there,

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<v Speaker 2>which was super cool. We also got a really great

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Plagis book where you can kind of learn about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, did you hear the story why the Wise,

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<v Speaker 2>Well now you can read it Why James Losno's book.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really interesting, completely unique to Star Wars phenomenon

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<v Speaker 2>where they literally would just allow these stories to exist

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<v Speaker 2>in this kind of amorphous clinical space. And then when

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<v Speaker 2>Disney took over it, and in twenty fourteen they decanonized

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<v Speaker 2>it and now we know it as legends.

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<v Speaker 3>But Disney does still dip in and out.

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<v Speaker 2>Occasionally take they take the best bits exactly, They take

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<v Speaker 2>characters people love, and it is a really fun space.

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<v Speaker 2>The cool thing is you can you can go to Banzanoble,

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<v Speaker 2>you can buy some of these books as legends, like

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<v Speaker 2>the hand Solo Adventures. But if you just go to

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<v Speaker 2>any thrift store, any second hand bookshop, you can likely

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<v Speaker 2>find more of those old strange store about Princess Leiah

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<v Speaker 2>getting married, about you know, weird creatures who live on

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<v Speaker 2>the edge of the galaxy and who Hans Solo must

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<v Speaker 2>go and steal from because that's just what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a completely wild sci fi space and I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>glad it still exists. And that is what the Star

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<v Speaker 2>Wars Expanded Universe is, or if you hear someone talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Star Wars Legends, that is what.

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<v Speaker 3>They are referring to.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>Every episode we like to end the show with a

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<v Speaker 2>fast moving segment this time, we're doing Who's Who with

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<v Speaker 2>our favorite weird characters from the Star Wars Expanded Universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to go first? Should I go first? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Go for it? Okay, My I don't know a favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think one of my most interesting weirdos is

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to pronounce this stuff a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the times. Okay, so if I'm wrong, I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>Kudar move Bat from from nineteen ninety eight The Mandalorian Armor.

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<v Speaker 1>Kudar Mubat is a like space spider of the Assembler species.

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<v Speaker 1>They basically like create little like arachnid drone nodes, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the only one I think like this is

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<v Speaker 1>the most evolved member of its species. Kudar Mubat.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love the name. That's like such a Star

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<v Speaker 3>Wars name. I mean, there's so many.

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<v Speaker 2>I have many favorite characters from the Star Wars Expanding Universe,

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<v Speaker 2>like Jason and Jayna mar Jay all these different, but

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite weird character is Jackson with two exes Jacksons. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and who is like a cool green Bunnie who has

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<v Speaker 2>two pistols and is in the Star Wars comics from

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<v Speaker 2>the seventies and eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>The Marvel comics, and he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a very weird bounty hunter green bunny who flies

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<v Speaker 2>through space and has a group called the star Hoppers

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<v Speaker 2>and they just do like super weird Guardians of the

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<v Speaker 2>Galaxy esque adventures and it's very.

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<v Speaker 3>Good and I love Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is just like one of those great weird

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<v Speaker 2>things about the Star Wars expanded Universe, which you know

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<v Speaker 2>encompasses hundreds and hundreds of books and comics, is you

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<v Speaker 2>get these.

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<v Speaker 3>Really joyous little moments and weirdos.

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<v Speaker 1>Like both of our favorites. That's right, because the galaxy

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<v Speaker 1>is so huge, Rosie, the main takeaway from this episode

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<v Speaker 1>today and that is it for our show, Rosie, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a great time.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a great time too. I'm so happy we

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<v Speaker 3>got to talk Star Wars and I'm so excited about

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<v Speaker 3>all the new Star Wars stuff that we're gonna keep

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<v Speaker 3>getting to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, see y'all next time. Bye. X ray Vision

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<v Speaker 1>is hosted by Jason Getupsion and Rosie Nighte and is

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<v Speaker 1>a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers are Joelle

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is a Boo Zafar.

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<v Speaker 1>Our producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme

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<v Speaker 1>song is by Brian Basquez.

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<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Laude, Kenny Goodman

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<v Speaker 2>and Heidi Our disco moderata