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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the podcast, new listeners, old listeners. Wherever you are in

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Speaker 1: the world, it is so great to have you here.

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Speaker 1: Back for another episode as we break down the psychology

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Speaker 1: of our twenties. Today, let's cut straight to the chase.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about creative passion projects, creative side hustles,

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Speaker 1: creative hobbies, the things that we are called to deeply

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Speaker 1: create and express and make, and basically, how to find

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Speaker 1: a balance between making time for creation in our busy

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Speaker 1: world and also needing to work, needing to pay our bills.

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Speaker 1: How do we find the balance between practicality and passion.

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Speaker 1: How can we hold both of these things at once

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Speaker 1: without feeling like our creative endeavors are always the first

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Speaker 1: thing to basically be sacrificed. I get so many questions

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Speaker 1: about this, specifically from obviously people in their twenties who

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Speaker 1: or do I stick with what is expected of me,

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Speaker 1: what is very traditional, what is very stable? And specifically,

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Speaker 1: the questions I often get are around how we can

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Speaker 1: turn our passions into our jobs, when to take the

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Speaker 1: risk and pursue whatever it is you want to pursue art, music, writing,

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Speaker 1: podcasting full time. But also so many dms asking me

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Speaker 1: for time management strategies, how to deal with creative blocks,

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Speaker 1: how to know when financially you are ready to pursue

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Speaker 1: your creative passion full time. So I really thought that

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Speaker 1: it deserved its own episode because I can speak really

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Speaker 1: deeply to this from experience. If you are new to

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Speaker 1: the show and you don't know the origin story of

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Speaker 1: the psychology of your twenties. This podcast started all the

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Speaker 1: way back in twenty twenty one, so almost four years ago,

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Speaker 1: and when I first started it, I wasn't working. I

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Speaker 1: working in a corporate job for around a year and

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Speaker 1: a half almost two years, whilst I was doing the

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Speaker 1: and I was I don't know, I don't like to

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Speaker 1: say building the platform. The show was just growing as

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Speaker 1: I poured more love into it. Basically, and at some

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Speaker 1: point I had to basically make the decision do I

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Speaker 1: I kind of just you know, continue to make this

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Speaker 1: my side hustle. And I really found that every single

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Speaker 1: my job and to pursue what you know is a

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Speaker 1: creative passion for me, like podcasting is actually a real

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Speaker 1: creative force, and there's so much creativity and inspiration involved

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Speaker 1: talk about what I learned from that experience and how

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Speaker 1: it's not, I think regardless, this episode will have a

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Speaker 1: the many barriers, hurdles, boundaries that we kind of clash

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Speaker 1: within doubting yourself, imposter syndrome, artistic blocks, also things like

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Speaker 1: I'm very, very excited for this episode. Some of the

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Speaker 1: research and the studies surrounding this is just fascinating. There

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Speaker 1: into it. So you want to put your creative passion

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Speaker 1: firstly say that is amazing. That is amazing. I am

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Speaker 1: fully supportive of this decision. I don't even know you,

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Speaker 1: and I still think it's a great idea. But before

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Speaker 1: and let's just get them out of the way. Let's

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Speaker 1: get the fear part out of the way. So the

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Speaker 1: first big worrying thing that I think we encounter is naysayers.

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Speaker 1: Naysayers people who are pessimistic about your journey, pessimistic about

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's a parent, maybe it's a partner. They'll call

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's someone online, of someone who calls themselves a friend.

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Speaker 1: I know that sometimes these people, if we give them

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Speaker 1: but don't let their doubts become your own. I think

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Speaker 1: And I really want to tell you right now, pay

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Speaker 1: it is a massive projection and reflection of what they

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Speaker 1: You know, the people who I have encountered who have

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Speaker 1: this idea that naysayers are projecting their own insecurities around

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Speaker 1: something called ego defense in psychology. Sometimes often we criticize

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Speaker 1: You know, so, even if my work sucks, if I

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Speaker 1: And that is kind of the sweetest revenge. I think

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Speaker 1: This is otherwise known as writer's block, creative block, artistic block.

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Speaker 1: You know, you really want to make something, you finally

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Speaker 1: understand how the brain really plays a role in creativity.

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Speaker 1: So at the forefront of our creativity is the prefrontal cortex.

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Speaker 1: think of this as like a business going through financial strife.

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Speaker 1: and how those who did this really helped their brain

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Speaker 1: to actually lock into study mode so they could get

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Speaker 1: started on whatever they were doing faster, and they could

436
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Speaker 1: maintain that focused state for longer because of the context

437
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: that they were in. It was priming them to study. Basically,

438
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: that was their study spot. Their brain was focused on

439
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: that when they were in that space, and you can

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00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: use those same principles to lock into the creative process.

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00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: Some other ritual ideas is having a specific outfit like

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Speaker 1: painters have a smock or have like overalls, have a

443
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Speaker 1: specific creative playlist, Go for a run before you want to,

444
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: you know, make music or write or paint or do

445
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: ceramics or whatever it is. Go for a dance to

446
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: get into the right headspace. You know, I've used all

447
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: of these techniques and they really do work. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: I have been rambling for a long time. We're going

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Speaker 1: to take a quick break, but when we return, I

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Speaker 1: have three more valuable tips for you, maybe even a

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Speaker 1: sneaky fourth one actually to do with finances. To do

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Speaker 1: with money, and what I wished someone had told me

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00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: about managing my money as a creator and as someone

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Speaker 1: who is pursuing their creative passion before I quit my

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Speaker 1: full time job. So stay with us. One thing I

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00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: wish someone had told me when I went full time

457
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: with the podcast, was actually how lonely it was going

458
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: to be. About three months in, I really had this realization.

459
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 1: You know, I think we tend to romanticize, you know,

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Speaker 1: making our creative project or our creative passion, our full

461
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: time job, and how much freedom we're going to have.

462
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Speaker 1: We romanticize it, and we forget that. You know, there

463
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Speaker 1: are days where you will not talk to anyone. There

464
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: were moments when I would not talk to anyone but

465
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: myself obviously until six pm when my roommates would get home,

466
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: and I would literally be almost sitting at the door,

467
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: like panting like a dog, waiting for them to come

468
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: in and like play with me, because I was so

469
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 1: starved for connection. So I definitely think that when I

470
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Speaker 1: was working a full time corporate job, I took for

471
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Speaker 1: granted the community that was really innate in that space

472
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: and which was essentially formed by being trauma bonded or

473
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: in the trenches together. I remember that same time, around

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Speaker 1: three months in, I met up with some friends of

475
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Speaker 1: mine who are also podcasters, and we met up for

476
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: lunch and I looked at them and I was like,

477
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: are you guys really really lonely? And both of them

478
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: were like, yes, I am so lonely. We are so lonely.

479
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: So tip number three for pursuing your creative passion, whether

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Speaker 1: it's full time, part time, casually, it can get lonely.

481
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Speaker 1: So create community to keep you inspired and motivated and seen.

482
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Speaker 1: I guess, So, why is this community so important? I

483
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Speaker 1: think community is just at the foundation, at the court,

484
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: at the center of our purpose and our needs as humans.

485
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: And whilst you may have community in terms of family

486
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: and friends, you can also really benefit from a specific

487
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: community who are operating towards the same goal, all all

488
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: the greater ambition as you are, but also who you

489
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: can share your problems and your rants with. You know, Oh,

490
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm getting so stuck at this point. I'm getting rejected.

491
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with hate online, I'm struggling with this specific technique.

492
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes you want someone who gets it the way that

493
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: you've experienced it. There is an amazing article by the

494
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: Harvard Business Review that talks about how community can be

495
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: a quote survival tool and a way to get through

496
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: challenging things together. And often a lot of the research

497
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: on this does look at the workplace. So many studies

498
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: are done in this space. Because it's where people have

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Speaker 1: shared interest to shared industry, shared you know, skill level.

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Speaker 1: But we see time and time again that when you

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Speaker 1: have people you care about and who care about you

502
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: in a workplace, staff turnover reduces, burnout reduces, people are happier,

503
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: there is greater employee retention. And we can take that

504
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: example within the workplace and we can apply it to

505
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: a creative community. When you make friends and you have

506
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: so called colleagues, you will be better for it. That advice, obviously,

507
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: it means nothing if I don't give you practical tips.

508
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you how I would do this if

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Speaker 1: I had to do it again. I would join workshops.

510
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: I would go on a retreat, like a small even

511
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: if it's a weekend retreat, with other people in the

512
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: space that I want to work in. I would email

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00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 1: people who I admire saying I love their work and

514
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: ask to collaborate. That's kind of really giving that meme,

515
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, why don't you just call Taylor up?

516
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: But I mean more like people in your city, people

517
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: in your community who you think are doing cool things

518
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: like network the shit out of it and Instagram. Instagram

519
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: is like a creative's best friend for building community, and

520
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I truly mean that. Follow the people that you love,

521
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: send them a DM saying, oh my, you know, I

522
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: really admire your work. If you want to get coffee

523
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: or anything, I'm down. Go to those community events that

524
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: are centered on your craft. You know, a market, go

525
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: to a play, those kinds of things. And you know, nowadays,

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00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: I have a small office space that I pay like

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00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a week for with four of my friends,

528
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: and all of them are also podcasters, authors, designers, writers,

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00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: and it is so nurturing. I've noticed a massive shift

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Speaker 1: in my mental health, in my emotional wellbeing from basically

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Speaker 1: addressing the creative loneliness and the loneliness that is innate

532
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: in creative life. Sometimes I think this is the fourth

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00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: tip that we're up to now, maybe the fifth, but

534
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: this one's very very important. Please don't push yourself to

535
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: a place of burnout or unenjoyment in pursuit of success.

536
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: You know, when you start feeling like what you're doing

537
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: is a burden, take a step back. You and creativity

538
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: have a relationship. And I got that quote from a

539
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: book by Elizabeth Gilbert called Big Magic. How many times

540
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: have I spoken about that book on this podcast. I

541
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: cannot tell you, but it's so true. You have a

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00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: relationship with your creativity and it needs to be nurtured

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00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: like a romantic relationship. You know those times when you

544
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: and your partner are just constantly getting into arguments, or

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00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: with a parent you know you, or you're or with

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00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: a sibling or a friend or a roommate. You're just

547
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: so obviously irritated at each other and you're so obviously frustrated.

548
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: You don't try and fix that by spending more time together.

549
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 1: You take a step back, you go for a walk,

550
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: you spend the afternoon apart, and you have to do

551
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: the same with whatever it is you're pursuing or creating.

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00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: You need to respect the fact that sometimes you need

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00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: space and stop pushing you. A creative burnout it happens

554
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: in stages, you know. Stage one is what we call

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00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: the honeymoon stage, where you're kind of enjoying almost that

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00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: feeling if pushing yourself until you get to stage two,

557
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: stage three, chronic stress, or stage five, which is habitual burnout.

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00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: You are unable to escape a burnout cycle, so make

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Speaker 1: sure you look out for those early signs, especially if

560
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: you are self employed. Feeling resentful towards what you're doing,

561
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: not getting joy from it anymore, just wanting to be done.

562
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: You don't care about the progress, the process, or the outcome,

563
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: like no part of it is happy or enjoyable to you. Stress, headaches,

564
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: neglecting your own needs. When those things go unmanaged, like

565
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: it can really destroy your care for something all together,

566
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Speaker 1: and you never want to do it again. I always

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00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: use this case study, this example of basketball players and

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Speaker 1: people in the US. Basketball players in the US who

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Speaker 1: get paid to play basketball at college, who are on

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Speaker 1: scholarships basically so often like those basketball teams are made

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00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: up of people who are on scholarships and then people

572
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: who just play for fun. But they're really, really good.

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00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: And you want to know, the biggest way to guarantee

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Speaker 1: that someone will never play basketball or any sport again

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00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: after they leave university or after they leave high school,

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00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: it is to force them to play and to make

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Speaker 1: them feel like they are obligated to play, to not

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00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: give them space between them and the sport. And the

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00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: same thing goes for your creative endeavor. I would also

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00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: say try different mediums to keep it fun. Like we said,

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00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: creativity thrives on rest and novelty as well. So if

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00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: you're a jewelry maker, try ceramics for a bit. If

583
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: you do illustrations, try doing some coloring in. I recently

584
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: bought these adult coloring in books. They're really really simple,

585
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: and like, I just cannot explain how much joy this

586
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: brings me in how when I'm doing it, I get

587
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: into this real flow state in my mind comes up

588
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: with so many other ideas. If you play trumpet, we

589
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: try writing the lyrics to a song. Keep those creative

590
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: neural pathways active and alive and not entirely consumed and

591
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: restricted by the need to produce and be successful in

592
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: your chosen area. And to basically just like keep trying

593
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: to drag along an exhausted horse. I don't think that's

594
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: a metaphor, but I think you know what I mean.

595
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: Make sure that you keep it light and fun at times,

596
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: even when things are getting stressful. Let's finally talk about

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00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: the beg M. Let's talk about money. We cannot talk

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00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: about pursuing our creative passion without talking about how that

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00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: is going to influence our relationship to our finances. Now,

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00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: if you want to know specifically the psychology about this

601
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: and what your money language might be, and the psychology

602
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: behind your relationship with money. We have a full episode

603
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: on that. It's titled how Money Impacts Our Mental Health.

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00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: I think it's episode two hundred and twenty. So if

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00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: you're looking for the psychology, go and listen to that

606
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: episode after this. But I specifically want to talk like

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Speaker 1: practical advice that I have practical advice for managing your

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00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: money in your twenties as someone who also wants to

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00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: pursue their passion project. This is the biggest tip I have.

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00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: Save more money than you think you will need. Do

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00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: not immediately quit your job. Go part time before you

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00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: quit your job. There's a big one, The biggest piece

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00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: of advice. If things are taking off for you, if

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Speaker 1: you're really really excited, just wait a couple of months

615
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: and just go part time and just see how you

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00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: adjust to it and save as much money as you

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00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: can before you quit the stable job. Something that I

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00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: truly believe in. It's a huge core part of my

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00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: belief system about how to approach our twenties is that

620
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: you can still take risks without them necessarily being spontaneous.

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Speaker 1: Like you can take a calculated ri You can think

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00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: through the risk that you want to make, be that

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00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: quitting your job doing your creative passion full time, just

624
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: make sure that you have thought it through put money

625
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: aside continually through that period. My rule of thumb I had,

626
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: and this is not necessarily what you should do, but

627
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: I had four months of income saved up before I quit,

628
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: because I was like, if this totally goes to shit

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Speaker 1: and I lose my interest in this, I just suddenly

630
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: don't want this to be my job and I can't

631
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Speaker 1: make money off of it, at least I have a

632
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: four month buffer to kind of figure things out. That

633
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: was really actually very important for me because I ended up,

634
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, not really making is like not really getting

635
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: paid for different contracts for a while. So it was

636
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: good to have that money that I could rest back on.

637
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: And as someone who is self employed, this is more

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00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: as a tip for people who are already doing their

639
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: creative passion full time. Put money into your retirement savings.

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00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: Something that I think we struggle with in our twenties

641
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: is thinking long term. We only tend to do it

642
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: when we're really stressed. You know, we worry about the future,

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00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: and we worry where we're going to be and who

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00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: we're going to be with and are we going to

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00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: be successful. We don't necessarily think about what it's going

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00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: to be like to be sixty five and no longer

647
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: really be able to work a job and how we're

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00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: going to deal with that. I'm so fortunate that I

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Speaker 1: any of those you know, any of those careers and

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Speaker 1: areas insert your own, really ask your family and friends

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Speaker 1: to support your work as well. Now that can mean financially,

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Speaker 1: that can mean hey, can you buy my poetry book,

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Speaker 1: Can you come to my reading? Can you come to

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Speaker 1: my stand up show? Can you pay for a ticket?

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Speaker 1: But also emotionally and in their social networks. So I

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Speaker 1: And I said to them, please ask your family and

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Speaker 1: your friends to share it wide and share it loudly.

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Speaker 1: Ask your friends to just post a story of something

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Speaker 1: that you've made for them, or with a link to

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Speaker 1: your Instagram page or to your Etsy or to your shopify,

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Speaker 1: word of mouth in the creative community and in the

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Speaker 1: creative space is so powerful and also psychologically, like, who

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Speaker 1: do we trust the most? It's the people who we know.

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Speaker 1: So by asking your friends to share on Instagram, to

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Speaker 1: you know, people who follow them, who know them will

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Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I trust their opinion, and you know

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Speaker 1: I care about what they care about. So maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: like this thing. Maybe I'll want to buy something from

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Speaker 1: this person. Maybe I'll want to listen to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: listen to this music. That is just like a final

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Speaker 1: just want to finish this episode by saying I think

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Speaker 1: that this is the time you should be doing it.

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Speaker 1: In your twenties. You have so much freedom and space

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Speaker 1: to make mistakes and the most time you will ever

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Speaker 1: have to fix those mistakes. If things really go south,

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Speaker 1: if your creative passion really fails, well, you are never

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Speaker 1: going to have more time than you have now to

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Speaker 1: make up for it. I also think that you don't

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Speaker 1: it's harder to pursue your creative entrepreneurial passion and realize

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Speaker 1: that you wish you'd done it sooner. The biggest regard

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Speaker 1: threat that we experience is what we call in action regret.

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Speaker 1: It's regret over not doing something. So the best way

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Speaker 1: to avoid that kind of regret is to surprise, surprise,

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Speaker 1: do the thing, do the scary thing, do the hard thing,

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Speaker 1: do the thing that the naysayas say you can't do.

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Speaker 1: Do it small and then medium, and then big, but

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Speaker 1: just do it. So I hope this episode has been,

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Speaker 1: if nothing else, inspiring, Hopefully you've actually gotten some practical

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Speaker 1: tips from this episode as well, something that you can

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Speaker 1: put into action. I really want to hear about this

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Speaker 1: challenge that I'm setting for you guys, your thirty day

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Speaker 1: challenge to make something every single day. If you actually

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Speaker 1: end up doing it, please damn me on Instagram. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you huge cuteos and make sure that you

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Speaker 1: are following along with the podcast. If you're a new listener,

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Speaker 1: if you're an old listener, we would love to hear

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Speaker 1: from you, but also we would love to have you

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Speaker 1: rate the podcast five stars, leave a nice review if

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Speaker 1: you feel cool to do so. It really does help

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Speaker 1: the show grow and reach new people. It helped make

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Speaker 1: my creative dreams a reality as well. Speaking of that,

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Speaker 1: I also want to invite you to send in any

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Speaker 1: episode suggestions that you might have. My DMS on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at that Psychology Podcast always open to hear from you

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Speaker 1: guys if you have any comments on this episode or

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Speaker 1: any further episodes that you want to want me to

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Speaker 1: do on this topic or this idea. So I would

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Speaker 1: love to hear from you. But until next time, good

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Speaker 1: luck with your creative passion, stay safe, stay kind, be

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Speaker 1: gentle with yourselves, and we will talk very very soon