WEBVTT - No.14: BONUS EPISODE- Beating Bryson 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:07.640 I enjoyed Kevin. He's a sharp guy and a hell 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.600 of a player to watch um and I shared I 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.800 would have if I were him. I mean I was there. 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:15.880 I played with Davis Love one year at Waste Management 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.599 Phoenix Open and and I hit a T ball on 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:21.320 eleven as good as I could hit one to a 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:23.959 front left end. I had six iron in and Davis 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.600 Love hit it miles past me. I hit a perfect 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.680 six iron landing by the whole, went forty ft past. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:31.720 Davis Love hit a sandwadge a foot from the whole. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.120 Made Bertie. This was a whole locase that was inaccessible 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.640 to me, And I thought, I cannot beat him. And 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:39.640 you know what, He's in the Hall of Fame. And 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.280 I sit in a chair and talk for a living. 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:46.800 Power has always ruled and it will always rule. But 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:48.440 that doesn't mean Kim and can't make a hell of 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:55.040 a living and entertain us long the way. Another log 0:00:56.000 --> 0:01:06.960 five well by years time. Welcome to the fire Pit 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:11.960 with Matt Jonella. Welcome back to a special production of 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.520 The fire Pit episode thirteen B If You Will, a 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:18.800 mini podcast put together after my recent interview with Kevin 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.280 Kisner was coming off a third place finish at the 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:25.280 Rocket Mortgage Classic in Detroit. Bryson D Shambo won the 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:30.840 event at under, Matthew Wolf finished second. Kisner was third 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.480 at eighteen under. But to say Bryson one was not 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.319 really the story. If you watched or follow even a 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.400 sliver of golf on social media, you know Bryson one 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.160 by overpowering the golf course and the competition. As you 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:48.320 probably know by now, D Shambo added weight, strength, tweaked 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.840 his swing, and added eighteen plus yards of distance to 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.720 his drives. I had Kisner on to talk about his 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:56.880 match with Riggs and the Boys of the four Play 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.840 podcast at Pinehurst. For more on that story, Part two 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.760 of Riggs's ninety nine Days at Pinehurst will drop this Sunday. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.080 But before we get to talking about trying to beat 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.240 a four man scramble squad for charity, Kissner and I 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.400 had a short back and forth about trying to beat 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.080 a guy who was out driving him by sixty yards. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.000 I took the D Shambo chunk of our conversation and 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.960 played it for Brandon Shamble, analyst for NBC Golf Channel. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.919 Here are snippets of my conversation with Kissner. With Shamble's 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:34.239 commentary throughout yev Are you good man? How you doing 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:38.680 nice week? Yeah? It was good. If you had another 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.480 eighteen holes, I think you would have want that thing. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.040 I don't know if anybody can ever be BiCon man. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.720 That's like video game golfer him right now? What blows 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.520 my mind as you've got guys like I mean, you've 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.480 got a lot of long guys on tour obviously Rory 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.240 and and and the guys like you know, pen Now 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.440 and DJ and stuff. How can this guy come and 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.800 all of a sudden just at eighteen yards you know, 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:06.799 on this incredible um as Cam Champ, nobody talks about anymore. 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:09.359 You're how when he came out he was heitting a 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.119 three thirty and three forty and now nobody even thinks 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.840 about him anymore. I think what's caught everybody by a surprise, 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.240 and there's so shocking is because there was there was 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.720 a baseline. We knew who Bryson de Shambo was before 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.079 and at the end of last year he said, I'm 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.280 gonna come back. You guys are not going to recognize me, 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.080 and we hear that all the time, but it's true. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.360 We don't recognize him, not physically and then not in 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.840 its totality what he is as a player. He's completely 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.720 you just you all these guys are unbelievably disciplined. They are. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.440 They're incredibly hard working guys who can almost do anything 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.960 you tell him to do. But to see someone make 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:50.760 that kind of leaps what everybody has cut everybody by surprise. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.600 And I understand the frustration of some of the shorter 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.800 hitters because you know, I was one of them. I 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.880 can understand looking at what Bryson is doing and thinking 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:05.640 I can't compete with that. But they can't and and 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:10.080 and Kevin certainly still can't too. Dude, this guy is uh, 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.080 He's literally going to push the U. S j A 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:13.840 to do something. This is going to be that. This 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.360 is the this is the tip tipping point. There's no 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:21.479 you can't. If he shows up to Augusta, if he 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.600 makes a mockery of Augusta National after they've made all 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.520 these changes, then you know, what's what would he do 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.880 with thirteen? What? What? What? He'll just send it over 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.120 the top of the trees. I know. Look, there's a 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.480 definite before and after with him. So I'm very curious 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.400 to see what Bryson does in major championships. He's had 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.120 a fabulous run up to this year and not finished 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.280 in the top fifteen in a major, hadn't finished better 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.320 than twenty players. Um, so it's clear that he was 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.680 missing something in the majors. But he I would be 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.520 surprised if he was able to hit his irons as 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.800 inaccurate as he did at the Rocket Mortgage and not 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.919 suffer the consequences in a major championship. I would similarly 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.240 be surprised if he was able to stray as far 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.039 from the fairway. Even though we love to pretend there's 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:12.000 no penalty Augusta National, there is. I mean there is. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.720 You get out of position and you pay a stiff 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.560 penalty there. You can't just overcome your inability to get 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.400 the angle with trajectory on every single hole. So yeah, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.560 I'm curious to see what he does at Augusta National. 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.960 But you know, on thirty five approach shots at Rocket 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:30.800 Mortgages thirty five out of seventy two, he lost strokes 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.520 with his approach. So he was able to overcome that 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:39.320 with the best putting week of his career. Okay, he's 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.760 driven it better than he drove it at Rocket Mortgage, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.440 but he never putted that. Well, you chat. You take 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.320 any player's best putting week on the in their history 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.719 on the PGA Tour, and they're if they're decent, teed degreen, 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.479 they're likely to win or come close to winning. So 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.720 overlooked is the the unprecedented week he had on the greens. 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:02.120 If he does that at Augusta National Shore, you'll be 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.719 in the hunt, but you'll have to mix that. You'll 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.200 have to overcome poor iron play, and he's yet to 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.800 do that because his iron play is still a question mark. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.039 Maddie Maddie on eighteen at Detroit, I pounded it off 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.280 the t and I ran through the fairway at three 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.719 eighteen into the first cutter rough. Okay, three eighteen, that's 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.920 a long way for me. Yeah, I had one sixty 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:33.160 two to the hall. Bryson had nine yards. That's it. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.680 That's all you need to know. You don't need to play. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.880 I can't beat them unless I have eighteen butts, you 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.120 can't beat them. I remember I was at the Pinehurst 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.359 US Open and this was this was this would have been, 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.719 and Tiger was thirty. Tiger played with Lee Westwood and 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:54.080 Corey Paven Okay, Tiger Lee. Uh went every I followed 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.480 fre eighteen homes. Every time there was a driver hole, 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.839 it went like this, Uh Corey Paven, then thirty yards 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.880 that had Lee Westwood than thirty yards had Tiger Woods. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:07.600 You basically are Corey Paven at three eighteen right, and 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:12.280 he's Tiger at three or whatever whatever that that's that 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:16.080 he's at like three eight Oh yeah, I was sitting 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.520 bas in the travelers. He hit two oh three balls speed. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.920 I mean if he went into the long drive contest, 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.520 he would actually he would contend. If he extended with 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.760 length of his driver, he would win. He had two 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.440 hundred three boss speed. I got hit on the map 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.080 every time too. But the other thing, like I said 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:37.920 in the text, and he's putting. You know, those long 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.560 drive guys can't hit irons and they can't put. This 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:46.239 guy can actually put again, I understand Kevin's frustration. Kevin 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.000 is a hundred and twelve mile in our club head 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.680 speed hundred twelve and change. Okay, four years ago and 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.680 three years ago two thousand seventeen, Kisner was one twelve 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.480 and change. The Shambo was one seventeen and change. So 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.920 five is an hour separated okay, but what what the 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:09.920 Shambo did was making changes at a huge risk for distance. Hey, 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:15.200 Kevin Kissner is a one twelve guy who who makes 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.600 whose golf swing is built around hitting it straight. He 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:23.320 doesn't even have a high distance um for club head 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:28.520 speed deficiency. You know, he's a hut right, So he 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.360 could hit it higher and and spin it less and 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.480 get more bang for his buck with club head speed. Right. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.840 But if you do that, the ball gets slippery in 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.560 the air and you risk any more fairways. Okay, so 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:45.080 that's a risk. He could also look Bryston made changes 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.240 in his golf swing for power. One of those was 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.679 to straighten his right leg and his back swing. Okay, 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.520 straighten it very soon, okay, and get deep into his 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.720 right here, deep into his right heel. Kevin Kissner is 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.439 a He's a believer that you should keep your right 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.920 knee flexed. Okay, if you keep your right neflex you 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.040 will never ever swing as fast as you can. There's 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.240 only one guy that really does that, and that's that's 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:10.160 brook Kepta. Now, Brooks is a behemoth of an individual 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.880 and very quick with his club head speed. But he's 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.319 the only person I've ever really seen have that kind 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.360 of power maintaining the flex of his right knee. But 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.880 Kissner does that. Now, if Kidsner wanted to take the 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.880 risk of straightenedge his right leg on his backs when 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:26.280 lifting his left heel the same way Bryson changed right 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.840 and making all those things, Kisner could probably pick up 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.160 five mile hour club head speed. He could, but it 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.880 comes with a huge risk. Okay, because look at Kissner 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.520 has been on tour for an eon since two thousand eleven, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.440 with the last two thousand fifteen two. Now he's only 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.520 missed the Tour Championship once and he was forty six 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.600 even that year, so his bad year is still good. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:48.360 He's making millions of dollars questions, would you risk that 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:54.160 for huge gains and distance? That's what's amazing about Bryson 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.600 de Shamba because most people wouldn't risk what Kevin Kisner has. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.640 He's a hell of a player, umbill eviable player who 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.720 would risk that risk all that to become a beheamoth 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:08.560 off of the tea. That's what's amazing to meet and 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.200 then pull it off. Now, Bryson pulled it off with knowledge, 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.000 with science, with testing. He didn't just go into the 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.520 gym and throw a weight around and change his body 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.360 for vanity reasons. And I would even argue that only 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.720 about five miles an hour of this club head speed 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.960 that he's picked up is because of his body. The 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.440 rest of it is because of his golf swing changes. Also, 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.080 they look at that shot, you know, eighteen nin eight 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.199 yards flew right in there, the three feet tapped it 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:40.400 in the wind. That's over, man. I told my teacher, 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.040 like a year and a half ago, I kind of 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.679 saw this trend coming with all these young guys. I said, buddy, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.679 we better make hay the next couple of years because 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.400 my time is running out quickly. Yeah, well, there's but 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.320 that that you know. First of all, you'll always you 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.040 can have you You're You're the type I mean, look 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.520 at look at Charles how look at Jerry Kelly, look 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.160 at there are guys who are just good, good at 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:03.880 good at getting the ball in the whole. So if 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.559 you're gonna get the ball in the whole, you can, 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.800 You're gonna you can. You can have a twenty year career. Yeah, 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.720 but I don't want. I want to compete and win. 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.080 I can't stand like Charles Howe's career drives me crazy. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.240 I'd want to quit. And the guys made like forty 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.120 million bucks or sixty million bucks, but I mean to 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:24.400 finish thirteenth every week. I fuck that. I'm out. If 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.640 I don't have if I don't have a chance, I 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:28.920 don't even want to play. You know, there's all there 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.240 will always be a handful of courses out there where 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.439 guys like Kevin Kisner. You know, look Jordan's face. H 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.400 he's only one mile hour faster. When Jordan had all 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.839 those phenomenal, that phenomenal run, he was betweening one mile 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:45.280 hour faster Kevin Kisner. So again, I get it, there's 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.800 a frustration when you see that, but it's a knee 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:50.840 jerk reaction. There's always gonna be room for people who 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.800 play golf like Kevin Kisses. There's not many people that 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:57.280 can't play golf like Kevin Kisner. But you look at Colonial, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.640 he won there, Hilton hit He's almost won there. Okay, 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:07.480 the TPC players, the TPC uh Jacksonville, he's almost one there. 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.959 These are the type of golf courses. Rocket Mortgages is 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:14.560 a Donald Ross. There's there's there's seven, eight, nine, ten 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.240 of those golf courses. And then he can still compete 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.319 on longer venues. He just has to have extraordinary weeks. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.040 But power has always been a huge asset on the 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.880 PG eight Tour, almost going back to the inception of 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.480 the Varden Trophy. With very few exceptions, the people who 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:31.760 win the Varden Trophy, people who have the lowest scoring 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.760 average on the PGA Tour, are long with some modical 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.800 ability to hit it straight. So there's always that's always 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.800 going to be the case. But Kevin Kissler is racking 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.640 up millions of dollars um. Look, this guy just came out. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:51.320 Colin Moore color Hey, Colin Moore Kawa is at the 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.160 beginning of his career. Kevin Kissler is sort of in 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.280 the middle of his careers thirty six. You know, maybe 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.800 he hangs in there another ten years, um. But Colins 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.520 just beginning his and Collins outside the top hundred and 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.880 driving the distance, and we we talked about him as 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.520 a player who could be a superstar because he has 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:15.120 a very well rounded game. Every fast of his game works. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.040 So you know, let's check back in ten years and 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.800 we'll see what Colin Morcale has done. As this game 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.800 has become even more insanely about power um than it 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.760 already is because and I'm with Kevin on this, I agree, 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:36.160 two hundred mile an hour ball speed and no, um, 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.360 you know, Bryson couldn't compete in long drives right now. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.160 He couldn't. He'd have to get ball speed up to 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:45.880 fifty um okay, and he's he gotta. You know, he 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:50.200 got ball speed at Rocket Mortgage last week, so he 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:54.880 wouldn't even snip competing, uh in long drive. Okay. They're learning, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:58.240 they're learning from watching how they create speed. So Bryson 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.120 to Shambo just on the he was on the range 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.040 at the bay Hill event of Nornal Palmer Invitational, and 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.880 Eddie Fernandez, known as Fast Eddie, he's number one in 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.600 the world from forty to fifty and driving distance okay, 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:15.679 and that senior division he's number one. Now, these are 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.240 the people that Bryson works with his longtime coach Mike Shay, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.080 but more recently with Chris Como and Chris Is. He's 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.680 gone to Lucas Wald's School for Power. He went to 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.480 Mock three School for Power. Talking to George Gankis, so 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.400 you know the Mock three guys all learned from this 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.120 fellaing in Kevin, Mary are so he's tapping into Como, 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.880 He's tapping into Lucas, he's tapping into George, going back 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:42.800 and tapping into the knowledge of Kevin, Mary car More Cook, 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.360 Kella Mary Are And he's tapping into all that knowledge 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.040 and then he and then he put it to work. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.160 It's really cool to see. But they're all learning from 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.360 long drive guys. This goes to Jamie Slowski. How did 0:14:56.480 --> 0:15:00.240 Jamie Slowski? We weighed a hundred and sixty pounds, what 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:04.520 I way have a ball speed about two miles? How 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.520 did you do it? Well, they all learned from him, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.680 and then they mapped out They use pressure plates. They 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:13.760 traced his pressure right, and they studied his golf swing 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:18.800 and they use that with with sort of uh legendary 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.600 principles of Jack Nicholas's Sam Sneed and they morphed them 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.160 together and they came up with these ideas and Bryson 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.560 is their getta pick and and up. You know, everybody's 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.560 paying attention because it's cool. Well, we're rediscovery knowledge of 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.200 the past, the golf swinger, Sam Sneed and Jack Nicholas 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.560 and Vnehoven and they're using it now with a little 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.800 bit of tweak that Jamie Silowski pressure plates, so you're 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.960 now where all that comes from. And also you watch 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:46.680 Bryson before he hits the golf shot and he breathes 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.840 real fast. He does that, Okay, that's the prime his 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.160 central nervous system. And then his fast back swing is 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.120 to excite the muscles. These are things that he trained 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.520 to do. He learned to do these things, hey, to 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:05.200 to prime a central nervous system to excite his muscles. Nobody, 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.000 you can go back and you used to listen to it. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:12.360 And I'm not detigrating the the lessons, but was Jack Nicholas. 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:15.360 Cities had never moved, but it did. Jack Nichola said, 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.560 you couldn't swing the golf club back slow enough. Right now. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.000 There's a lot to be set for tempo and rhythm 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:25.760 and consistency. But if you're looking for power, Nobody in 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.360 the long drive or the longest teachers, they're not taking 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.320 the club back slow, Okay, They're zipping it back there. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.880 And they do that to excite the muscles. And to 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.800 the degree that this game becomes more about power, you're 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.960 gonna see more and more guys excite the muscles the 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.920 way Bryson Shambo is that's what we've got going on 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.040 are here, which is really cool. This is science and 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:50.640 athletics and science and art. It's blended together. It's it's 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.560 it's cool, but there will always be room for the 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.320 Kevin Kissers of the world. You're doing whatever you're doing, 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.600 you you look like you know, it just kept getting better. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.359 It looked pretty easy to me. I don't know the 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.600 best shot. I hit all dabis on that part five 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.800 and may Par hit it right at it with a 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.280 three iron and went over the green. That was the 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.639 moment I go, man, kiss has got it. Actual. I 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.840 was actually texting with Riggs. I was like, this guy 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.480 could actually if if if Bright and Bryson was in 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:22.720 the what Bryson hit hid in the water on his 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:27.560 punch out and I go up and then and then hee, 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.960 there we go. Eventually we got to the idea of 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.080 acknowledging Bryson's commitment to his craft. The part I didn't 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.440 understand about, Like you know, I said in my interview 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:40.240 when they asked me about and said, obviously he's got 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.520 way too much time on his hands, but the world 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.639 in a general would never put the time or effort 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.920 in that he did to make this happen, So why 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:53.000 are we not celebrating him? Like, holy shit, if I 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.200 really want to work that hard, I could also hit 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.560 three ninety. But I'm not going to. Okay, I'm I'm 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.680 content with third place and how and a few kids 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.119 and drinking a few beers at night. He's not. But 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.600 I mean, it's like she asked me Amanda on on Sunday, 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.280 I'm like, I mean, that's the consummate professional, right. He 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.440 figured out what he has to do to kick everybody's ass, 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.400 and then he spent the time to do it. How 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.560 many people in this world besides you know, Tiger Woods 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.480 and Lebron James and the late Kobe Bryant, actually took 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.000 that much time to hone their craft in and be 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.879 the best. Yeah, I agree, you know, you have to 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.159 applaud the effort he you know, i'd say when he 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.320 said he figured it out, I mean, he didn't know 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.560 it would work. He thought it would you know. It 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:43.400 was hypotheses that uh that he that he tried out. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:45.440 You know, he went to the lab, got the beakers out, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.280 the buns of burners and went to work, you know, 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:51.159 and and it and it and it absolutely it was 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.840 really cool. To see. Um. You know, I'm trying to 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:58.520 think of other players who who've Yeah, I mean Tiger 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:03.040 Woods is the most notable I think exception of building 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.399 and destroying, but he was when he went from the 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:10.880 best in the world, destroyed it, theyven rebuilt it. This 0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.160 is kind of like Nick Faldo going from a place 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:19.200 of doubt and then recreating things, breaking them up because 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.919 they weren't they weren't great, they weren't the best. They 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.480 were good, they weren't the best. And so this is 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.920 more along the lines of Nick Fouler or Marco Mirror, 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.840 you know who who had some success but not great 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.919 success in the professional golf and then broke it up 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.960 and decided to take the risk. Along those lines, this 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.320 is not I don't think personally, I don't think this 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.360 is equivalent of what Tiger did you know? Tiger did 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.840 you know? The object of sport is to be consistent, 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.880 to dominate. That's what everybody dreams of doing. You can 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.480 be consistent. There's lots of people like that, like Kucher 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.879 and web Simpson. You can dominate, and not many of those, 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.560 just a few, you know. We think VJ Seeing in 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.600 two thousand four put those two together, and that's Tiger Woods, 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.760 and then Tiger Woods willfully dismantled those golf games and 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.320 they rebuilt them. That's the most mind bothering thing in 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:12.920 the game. What Bryson has done is just taking all 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.479 of the information out there about how to generate power 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.440 and then assembling it and doing it. Look, it's not 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.600 that it's I mean, okay, I mean, is it that hard? 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.119 Phil did it last year at forty nine years of age. Okay, 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.359 Cameron tor Gali to some extent, did it. Um. You 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.400 know there there are players that are putting a joke 0:20:32.440 --> 0:20:34.840 all the time. You can look at Bryson de Shambo. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.800 You can look at his body transformation, that metamorphosis of 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.760 zeke and you can go out. It takes a lot 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.800 of time, it does. Okay, you don't really have to 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.320 do that. Look at Bubba Watson. Bubba Watson hit it 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.359 past Dustin Johnson, he passed Brooks kept it putting past in. 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:54.040 It passed everybody. Biceps are that bigger round. Okay, Hey, 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.000 he didn't go to the gym. You see him without 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.080 a shirt on. You turn the other way. You don't 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:00.879 want to look, Okay, And why does Bryson do that 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.800 people want to say, well, he's got this freakish golf swing. 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.480 They no, No, he doesn't doesn't have a freakish golf swing. 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.560 He's not a freak athlete. He just has a golf 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.720 swing that has all the elements of power in it. 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.840 Maximize his shoulder tern, maximizes hit turn, frees up his 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.439 lower body, gets his hands high. Okay, which allows you 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:22.200 to have a full of shoulder turn, gives you all 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:25.400 at the time to build speed. Dropped down extends guess 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.679 who did that, Sam Sneak, Jack Nicholas, John Daly. You 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.960 can go to the gym, do all that you want, 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.160 and then if you resist, like brooks Kepka does, Okay, 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:36.199 you need to go to the gym. Probably I don't know, 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.120 because you've gotta be explosive. But if you can, you're 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.479 gonna not do any of that and look like Bubba Watson. 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.159 And by the way, Bubba Watson has a beautiful family 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.720 and uh it doesn't spend two hours in the gym. 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.480 So you know. What Bryson did was tap into the 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:56.280 power elements of Bubba Watson's golf swing. He added some 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.760 elements of accuracy, which with Jordan's speece and that's sort 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.639 of the broken left arm and impact. So he blended 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.000 power elements with accuracy elements. He did put in the 0:22:06.040 --> 0:22:09.399 time to sort of mesh those two and then he 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:12.640