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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in everybody. Second hour of Clay in Buck

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Speaker 2: starts right now, and we've got a lot to get to.

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Speaker 2: First off, there are a number of developments in the

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Speaker 2: law fair offensive against Donald Trump. Okay, a number of

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Speaker 2: news items, some of them I think even got a

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Speaker 2: little bit lost in the last couple of days in

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Speaker 2: the news cycle because of the shock of Tucker Carlson's

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Speaker 2: removal from air. We're still looking at that story closely.

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Speaker 2: By the way, it is not clear. One thing Clay

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Speaker 2: had noticed from this is how many news organizations are

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Speaker 2: putting out stories that are at odds with each other,

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Speaker 2: which means they're running stories that can't all be true,

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Speaker 2: but they don't care because they're just throwing whatever they

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Speaker 2: can at the wall. About the Tucker, it's not even

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Speaker 2: clear that he's leaving Fox for good. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what's going to happen. No one really knows what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen exactly yet. So we're watching that one. But

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Speaker 2: a couple of things. First of all, today you have

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Speaker 2: the expectation here shortly of I believe it could be

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Speaker 2: the next couple of hours e. Gene Carroll, who is

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Speaker 2: the accuser of Donald Trump. She is suing him in

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Speaker 2: civil court for a rape that she says Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: committed against her in the nineteen nineties. Now, there is

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Speaker 2: a change in New York state law that gave a

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Speaker 2: one year, effectively erasure of the Statute of Limitations for

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Speaker 2: certain sexual crimes. And this is we can talk by

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Speaker 2: the way about this, this notion of getting rid of

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Speaker 2: for a civil case, for example, a statute of limitations.

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Speaker 2: How can you prove your innocence about something like this

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Speaker 2: if you're Donald Trump for something that happened over thirty

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Speaker 2: years ago, how are you so what evidence can you

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Speaker 2: marshall one way or the other in your defense? There

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Speaker 2: is a principle behigh the statute, by the way, and

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Speaker 2: they have waived it in New York and it is

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Speaker 2: being used to attack Trump. So she's testifying today. CNN

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Speaker 2: all over that story. No surprise, they're gonna be covering

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Speaker 2: that very closely. They initially backed off that story, Clay,

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Speaker 2: if you recall, because she went on Anderson Cooper Show

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Speaker 2: on CNN and it got very uncomfortable the way that

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Speaker 2: like you had somebody who was not mentally well giving

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Speaker 2: did with Anderson Cooper. Everybody saw it was very clear.

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Speaker 2: That's why she stopped being put on CNN. But she's

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Speaker 2: back now. Civil suit. Okay, that's one. Second thing, is

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Speaker 2: the prosecutors bringing charges against Donald Trump, or that brought charges,

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Speaker 2: I should say they brought the indictment for the hush

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Speaker 2: money payment. We all know the basic background of this,

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Speaker 2: right the most non crime crime any of us have

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Speaker 2: ever heard of, Clay. They are demanding a protective order

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Speaker 2: to prevent Trump from being able to talk about aspects

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Speaker 2: of the case, evidence in the case, et cetera. They

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Speaker 2: are demanding silence from Trump while they put him through

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Speaker 2: this Kafka esque absurdity in New York. So that's going on.

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Speaker 2: Third thing, Third, this is all Trump legal stuff going

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Speaker 2: it all on its totality. The district attorney in the

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Speaker 2: Fanny Willis, who is the district attorney in Fulton County, Georgia,

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Speaker 2: says that a determination will be made this summer. You know,

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Speaker 2: As to whether they will bring conspiracy to commit election

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Speaker 2: fraud and rico charges racketeering and racketeer influence corrupt organization

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Speaker 2: are thinking about. Those are the three for right now, Clay,

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Speaker 2: and there's more too, But what do you make of

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Speaker 1: So let's start in reverse order.

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Speaker 3: The Atlanta area Fulton County suit potentially the charges. But

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Speaker 3: she didn't even say just the summer. I believe she

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Speaker 3: herself a ninety day window to decide when those charges.

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Speaker 1: July first and September first, is the is the summer?

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Speaker 3: echo all the time Alvin Bragg took office and fifty

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Speaker 3: Buck they're trying to put Trump in a corner where

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Speaker 3: they aren't just trying to restrict Trump's ability to publicly

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Speaker 3: I think everybody out there, regardless of how much of

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Speaker 3: speaking out against these illegitimate charges could be more significant

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Speaker 3: would say is this is another example of a rigged jury.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what happens here, but my concern if I

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Speaker 2: So so I think it's not even about whatever the

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Speaker 2: There's there's the big, the big thirty thousand foot picture,

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Speaker 2: the legal system. The indictment came down as we said

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Speaker 2: they're gonna find him guilty in New York. It's a

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Speaker 2: a reasonable doubt. Yeah, he'll be liable for damages for

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Speaker 2: as a person. So that now going into it, they'll say, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean a court, as a court said Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: Clay's point, maybe they don't get that jury. Maybe the

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Speaker 2: you really think you, by the way, who wants to

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Speaker 2: clay as we've talked about, to destroy Donald Trump, or

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Speaker 2: that he went the first seventy eight years of his

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Speaker 2: Which of these things is more likely?

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Speaker 3: I would also add on the layering here, Buck, because

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Speaker 3: I think it's not only the lawfair being used against

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Speaker 3: Trump to try to destroy him. Simultaneously, the same court

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Speaker 3: consequences from they're far more significant criminal related enterprises. Right,

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Speaker 1: All saw on that laptop.

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Speaker 3: And it's not only that Trump is being attacked if

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Speaker 3: the entire judicial system had been mobilized, buck were effectively

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Speaker 2: And everything else.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's not what's going on.

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Speaker 3: The entire judicial system has been utilized, mobilized, and is

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Speaker 3: the entire judicial system as a shield. He isn't being

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Speaker 3: protected by the same people as zacking Trump. This is

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Speaker 3: a critical point you're making, and this is true weaponization

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Speaker 3: one thing if you lose an election and you have to,

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Speaker 3: it's disappointing, it's humiliating, it's a defeat on an epic scale.

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Speaker 3: To be that close to the presidency and lose, but

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Speaker 1: Truth after Truth, You can handle the truth. Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I want to

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Speaker 1: Remember this is a civil trial. She is seeking money.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all that is important, And what I was saying

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Speaker 1: Listen, most people.

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Speaker 2: Think of rape and as I mean it is a

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Speaker 3: Let's go back and listen to that again, because sometimes

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Speaker 2: Just listen, most people think of rape and as I

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Speaker 3: So this is a woman who went on CNN, regardless

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 3: I think most people out there in our audience do

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Speaker 2: Just so everyone understands. She also publicly lobbied for the

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Speaker 1: Trump says this is not true, right. I think it's

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Speaker 3: The legal I think we should say on the legal.

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Speaker 2: And now think about a basic principle within the courtroom

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Speaker 2: So we want to open this up to you. If

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Speaker 6: in at this time on the timeline of the moment Clay,

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Speaker 6: we need to know where we are at this time.

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Speaker 3: I shared this video buck on social and I when

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Speaker 3: I share a funny video, I actually I a lot

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Speaker 3: of times don't pay attention to mensions because it's not

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Speaker 3: that worthy. But when I share something that is funny,

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Speaker 3: I definitely want to see people react to the humor.

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Speaker 3: And the best response that I saw here was if

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Speaker 3: you just showed me this quote I'm paraphrasing one of

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Speaker 3: the commenters. He said, if you just showed me this quote.

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Speaker 3: I would one hundred percent believe it was Michael Scott

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Speaker 3: from the Office.

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Speaker 2: Yes, which is.

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Speaker 3: Really funny to think you take away the female voice

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Speaker 3: and you just wrote this whole quote out. It does

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Speaker 3: sound like something that Michael Scott would have said on

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Speaker 3: the office when he's trying to sound profound for those

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Speaker 3: of you who are Office found fans, and he's sitting

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Speaker 3: doing his interviews with the camera. This is a vintage

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Speaker 3: Michael Scott. Michael Scott clip.

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Speaker 1: Now interesting to I think worth bringing this up.

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Speaker 2: Because just because this is another moment where you realize

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Speaker 2: this Kamala can't win. Guys. She cannot win an election

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Speaker 2: because she will have to win some independence. Democrats are

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Speaker 2: not enthusiastic about her. She was a bottom tier despite

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Speaker 2: what she said, a bottom tier candidate in the Democrat

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Speaker 2: prime or maybe okay, mid tier candidate in the Democrat

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Speaker 2: primary back in in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. Here, though,

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Speaker 2: is something I thought this was interesting they're asking people

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Speaker 2: because you know, I've been saying this all long. The

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Speaker 2: strategy here is Biden is the bridge for Kamala to

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Speaker 2: just be dropped in without facing voters as the first

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Speaker 2: black female president and of course a Democrat. And here

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Speaker 2: she is, Here she is saying, I'm sorry, Here is

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Speaker 2: Karine Jean Pierre saying that Kamala Harris well, will Biden

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Speaker 2: commit to serving his full term. Let's look at this

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Speaker 2: play ten. I was a planning to serve all eight years.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not going to get ahead of the president.

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Speaker 2: That's something for him to decide.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not going to get ahead of it.

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Speaker 5: And there's a twenty twenty four campaign anything related to that,

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Speaker 5: I would refer you to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Clay, that's an easy one. By the way, just say,

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Speaker 2: of course he's going to serve all it. Just just

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Speaker 2: say it, right, Except we all know there's no way

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Speaker 2: he's serving all. You know, there's no way he's making

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Speaker 2: it through another four years. I would place a sizeable

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Speaker 2: bet that he will hand the baton over, he will

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Speaker 2: pass the torch, he will give the presidency to Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris and that'll be the act, you know, his greatest

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Speaker 2: legacy right there.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole, that's the game.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I can't believe about this buck. On the

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Speaker 3: day that he announces Come look, Carrie, Jean Pierre lies

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Speaker 3: all the time. How could she not handle this question

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Speaker 3: unless there's actually this is my thought when I saw it,

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Speaker 3: unless there's actually discussions already occurring in the White House

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Speaker 3: about Joe Biden passing the baton to Kamala Harris, right, like,

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Speaker 3: that's what I mean. She lies for a living. This

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Speaker 3: is easy. She wasn't able to handle this lie. And remember,

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Speaker 3: as Joe Biden has now announced the announced yesterday in

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Speaker 3: that stupid video, but the entire premise of Joe Biden's

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Speaker 3: campaign in twenty twenty, it was implicit. It wasn't, but

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Speaker 3: it was certainly implicit. Was Hey, I'm just the bridge

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Speaker 3: to the next generation of Democrat leaders, he effectively told us.

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Speaker 3: Because he refused to say like, hey, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: serve eight years like all those things. He was basically saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm just here to beat Trump and then move on.

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Speaker 3: Yet he's now having to run because of the Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris word salad incompetence that is so aggressive that Democrats

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Speaker 3: can't figure out how to put somebody else in office

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Speaker 3: without being racist and sexist. So they're going to run

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Speaker 3: an eighty two year old guy for president, which is

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Speaker 3: indefensible on any level, but particularly when you consider even

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Speaker 3: for eighty This is a good question, Buck, even for

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Speaker 3: eighty two year olds, Where do you think Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: ranks for eighty two year olds, not even comparing him

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Speaker 3: to people who are fifty two or forty two or

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Speaker 3: sixty two. I don't even think Joe Biden is that

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Speaker 3: good in terms of his mental faculties for eighty, to

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Speaker 3: say nothing of sixty two or forties.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's kind of like where he was

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Speaker 2: in his Syracuse law school class, you know, bottom, bottom

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Speaker 2: ten percent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to potentially have a race in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. This doesn't get enough discussion. Where both

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Speaker 3: of the men running for office are older than the

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Speaker 3: average age of death for Americans. Think about that for

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Speaker 3: a minute. If Trump is the nominee, he'll be seventy eight,

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Speaker 3: Biden will be eighty two. Both of those men will

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Speaker 3: have exceeded the average age and life expectancy of men

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Speaker 3: in America.

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Speaker 2: And this means that both of the possible vice presidential

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Speaker 2: choices are will be significant, not just for elector level.

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Speaker 2: Never before, right, I mean usually vice presidents people talk

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Speaker 2: about as someone who might you know, help bring some

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Speaker 2: component of support to the ticket or deliver a state whatever. No,

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Speaker 2: the next vice president may have to step in. That's

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Speaker 2: a real thing.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know. You know, they had a

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Speaker 3: big story, buck about how they're trying to redeem Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris and how everybody is focused now on we've got

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Speaker 3: to lift her up because she's become such a big

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Speaker 3: drag to your point, Buck on the consequential nature of

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Speaker 3: this vice president choices through the roof, even compared.

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Speaker 2: To past ones.

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know how they can put themselves

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Speaker 3: in a position where they can redeem her because she's

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Speaker 3: just so awful at her job. She's an even worse

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Speaker 1: Sunday, Hang with Clay and fucking a new podcast. Find

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: So our good friend Keith.

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Speaker 3: Olberman, Sorry, our good friend Keith Olberman, who I believe

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Speaker 3: just does a podcast now, is that, right, Buck? That's

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Speaker 3: his sole employment so far as we know, he's not

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Speaker 3: on television, right, Raising many cats, Raising many cats? Keith

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Speaker 3: Olberman in his Central Park apartment. Kind of perfect example

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Speaker 3: of what happens if you go too far left wing.

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Speaker 3: Eventually you just lose your mind and you end up

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Speaker 3: shrieking out on your balcony about how many shots you

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Speaker 3: need to get for COVID or else you'll die. I

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Speaker 3: guess he made the mistake. Has he come after you

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Speaker 3: in a while, Buck, not.

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Speaker 2: A little while?

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Speaker 1: No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, Twitter is sometimes hard to follow now,

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Speaker 3: so I don't necessarily see crazy Keith Olberman dropping into

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Speaker 3: my mentions like I have before. So maybe he's still

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Speaker 3: occasionally firing off at me. You get a cool nickname

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Speaker 3: because he gave me a cool nickname? Do you get

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Speaker 3: a nickname or not? I don't think I have a nickname.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm just basically all that's evil in the

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Speaker 3: world according to Olberman. But I guess he came after

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Speaker 3: Meghan Kelly and that was not a really smart decision.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Meghan Kelly very smart, fearless, having a

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Speaker 3: lot of success with her show. And we grabbed the

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Speaker 3: clip because I heard you playing it and I was laughing.

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Speaker 3: Here is Megan Kelly going after Keith Oberman. This is

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Speaker 3: what a dead body looks like.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 4: Even Keith Oberman was saying similar things, comparing Tucker to

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Speaker 4: a Nazi. He also for good measure, decided to tweet

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Speaker 4: about me because I said Tucker is going to be

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Speaker 4: better off without Fox and said something to the effect

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Speaker 4: of you got fired from Fox and NBC. What would

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Speaker 4: you know about it? So, first of all, you misdate

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Speaker 4: the circumstances of my departure from NBC, sir, That's all

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Speaker 4: I'm allowed to say about it. And as for Fox,

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Speaker 4: there were widely reported facts that I was offered one

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Speaker 4: hundred million dollars to stay there, but the record's very

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Speaker 4: clear that I left voluntarily because I wanted to raise

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Speaker 4: my family, something you don't know anything about because no

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Speaker 4: one would marry you and you have no children. You

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Speaker 4: have a cold, lonely life in which you become a bitter,

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Speaker 4: bitter man, something I wouldn't know anything about because my

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Speaker 4: life is joyful and I've managed to raise my own

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Speaker 4: children and someday I hope you have that pleasure, but

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Speaker 4: I don't have high hopes it's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was a Chuck Norris roundhouse kick to

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Speaker 2: the face.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Oh my goodness, Keith Oberman is officially dead. And

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Speaker 3: I look, I do think Buck, there's something to be

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Speaker 3: said now that you are a married man. I do

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Speaker 3: think there is something to be said for having some

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Speaker 3: form of normalcy in your life if you have an

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Speaker 3: abnormal job. And I would say that what you and

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Speaker 3: I do for a living is an abnormal job. But yesterday,

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Speaker 3: for instance, I was watching Little League baseball, and I

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Speaker 3: left little League Baseball to go do Jesse Waters show,

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Speaker 3: and then I came back downstairs and you know, played

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Speaker 3: a more little league baseball and wood football and everything else.

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Speaker 3: I think it's important to have normalcy in your life.

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Speaker 3: Again if you have an abnormal job, and the longer

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Speaker 3: you have an abnormal job, it warps you, particularly if

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Speaker 3: there isn't normalcy in your life, and I think Oberman

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Speaker 3: is a very strong example of that.

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Speaker 2: I would just say also, and I admit that I

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Speaker 2: come to this with a degree of bias, and I

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Speaker 2: always will put that out in front, but I really

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Speaker 2: do believe it, so I say it. You look at

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Speaker 2: the people on the right who Keith Oberman was at

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Speaker 2: one point the biggest name at MSNBC, by far the

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Speaker 2: most famous Democrat commentator in the country. He is a lunatic,

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Speaker 2: my friends, and not a very happier nice man obviously,

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Speaker 2: and Megan decided that she did not take kindly to

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Speaker 2: him trying to trash her career, especially given she's been very,

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Speaker 2: very successful. So it's just it was a bizarre thing

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Speaker 2: f M the two. But it shows a nastiness the

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Speaker 2: people on the right who are you know, Look, no

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Speaker 2: one's perfect and we all have our challenges, but the

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Speaker 2: people on the right, whose names you all know, are

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Speaker 2: overwhelmingly good people that you'd want to hang out with.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm sorry, it's just true. And there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of people on the left who are again

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about pundits here in the pundit class, and

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Speaker 2: you know, whether we're talking CNN, MSNBC, etc. Who are

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Speaker 2: deeply unhappy, miserable and nasty people. And now it's not

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Speaker 2: a perfect system, but I think that people that on

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Speaker 2: the right in media are generally a happy or nicer

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Speaker 2: bunch them. Just saying, if you get to over sixty

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Speaker 2: years old, which I believe Olberman is, and you've never

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Speaker 2: been married and you have no kids, I think you

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Speaker 2: really start to spiral out of control if you don't

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Speaker 2: have something really solid in your life. Right, I think

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Speaker 2: nuns probably do pretty well. Right, priest, hopefully most of

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Speaker 2: them do pretty well because they have that foundation of

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Speaker 2: the church is the central part of their life, when

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Speaker 2: the central part of your life is a constantly shifting

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Speaker 2: left wing orthodoxy. Because Buck, if Keith Oberman had been

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Speaker 2: doing ESPN twenty years ago and you had asked him, Hey,

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Speaker 2: what do you think about a dude who decides to

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Speaker 2: become a girl winning a women's championship, he would have said,

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Speaker 2: are you kidding me? That's absurd, ridiculous, that will never happen.

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Speaker 2: Now he will say, oh, it's very heroic. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: that this is happening. This is an important moment in

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Speaker 2: women's athletics. By the way, I spoke to Riley Gaines

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Speaker 2: last night going to the Clay end Buck podcast network

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Speaker 2: about all she's been through and why she's standing for

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Speaker 2: women in sports. And you know clay Leah Thomas BIG's

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Speaker 2: big headline in the Daily Mail today coming out firing

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Speaker 2: at people, at women for not supporting him enough as

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Speaker 2: a woman racing against actual women in the NCUBA. So

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Speaker 2: that is not over on this dude.

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Speaker 1: How about the balls on him just to come right

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Speaker 1: out and.

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Speaker 2: Call we're going to get us in trouble again.

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Speaker 3: I mean a dude with balls has just said women

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Speaker 3: aren't supporting me enough for being Oh boy, this is

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Speaker 3: where we are. By man's got a penis and testicles

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Speaker 3: and he's out here saying, Hey, how come women aren't

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Speaker 3: supporting me enough.

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Speaker 1: You're all a bunch of misogynists. That's the world we

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Speaker 1: live in.

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Speaker 2: How dare you