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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Oh, welcome in.

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Speaker 1: What is going on?

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Speaker 2: My goodness?

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Speaker 1: We've got NBA playoff action in full theme over here.

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Speaker 1: What do the NBA Playoffs and Al Michaels, the legendary

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Speaker 1: broadcaster have in common? We'll tell you in just a

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Speaker 1: Jared and Rich All good with you? Everything good here.

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Speaker 3: Buddy, Everything is great. You have a tale to tell.

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Speaker 3: I saw the posts on X and I hope you're

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Speaker 3: all right. Everybody was concerned and we're very glad. I

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Speaker 3: had to have your voice here and your your face

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Speaker 3: on a Zoom call.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing, Brian?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I gotta get zoom fired up right here. First things first,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on. I was silencing

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Speaker 1: my alarm like there wasn't a morning show today, you

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Speaker 1: snooze going off a million times in a row here?

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Speaker 1: And it never dawned on me, like, dude, get up,

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Speaker 1: it's time to roll. Like I I was having some

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Speaker 1: crazy I was betting, you know, Japan Basketball Live late

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Speaker 1: last night and getting ready for the show this morning.

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Speaker 1: So it was it was a quick turnaround for me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what you're alluding to, Rich is this was insane,

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Speaker 1: like we'll get to the playoff hoops here in just

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Speaker 1: a second. But you know, I uh well, the quick

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Speaker 1: version of the story is I took a a hot

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Speaker 1: shower last Sunday, right, I always take these insane hot showers,

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Speaker 1: and at the end of this one last week, I

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Speaker 1: just felt woozy and I never felt faint like that.

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Speaker 1: After a shower, I saw him like something's weird. So

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Speaker 1: I know, sat down for a little while, you know,

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Speaker 1: drank something ate. Something felt a lot better and then

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Speaker 1: but not quite all the way better. And then the

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Speaker 1: next day I was with crack. I was with Bill Krakenberger,

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Speaker 1: who's on Countdown tomorrow. He invited me over in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: It was this you know, little get together for lunch

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Speaker 1: and so I went there and I kept telling my girl,

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Speaker 1: going on? And then my left hand was starting to

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Speaker 1: cramp up. And we went to men's warehouse. We're in

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Speaker 1: just like super weak. I'm like, I got to hit

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Speaker 1: up Christy. Yeah, it's my sister, and I told her

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Speaker 1: all my symptoms and she's like, you need to go

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Speaker 1: So I went in there. I went into an urgent

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Speaker 1: shout out to Patty Sweeka, who's in with us this morning?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: But Patrick aka Patty, this dude knew his stuff at

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Speaker 1: urgent care and he told me it was funny. He

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Speaker 1: could be that you know, you need to get your

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Speaker 1: blood work done so you need a family doctor. Like

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Speaker 1: the funny thing. I guess it's ironic. I always double

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Speaker 1: check my work. The great Tom Loney has hit me up.

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Speaker 1: Not to be meandering here, but Tom Luney has hit

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Speaker 1: me up and made sure I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: It used to be with.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio legendary guy, and he is always preaching

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Speaker 1: that's not ironny, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the opposite of what you expect. That's ironic.

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Speaker 5: And so like.

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Speaker 1: This Urgent Care doctor, he said, you know, you need

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Speaker 1: He's like, you need a family doctor so they can

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Speaker 1: And he said this. I'm there at Urgent Care and

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Speaker 2: I should have known then. He was like, yeah, go

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Speaker 2: And so we're like, okay, we go to the er and.

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Speaker 1: and they're like, Urgent Care doesn't know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 1: that's what ended up happening. I did have a stroke.

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Speaker 1: And they're still trying to figure out why. They don't

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Speaker 1: How how in the world can we even begin to

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Speaker 2: No long term effects, thank god.

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Speaker 4: My goodness, my goodness.

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Speaker 3: Well well, I thank you for sharing the story. And man,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're back. I'm glad you're healthy. I'm glad

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Speaker 3: you're feeling yourself again. That's a scary situation and it's

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Speaker 3: a it's just a good warning to everybody. The signs

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're okay. I really am.

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Speaker 1: No, thanks man, Yeah, it's crazy that was anywhere on

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Speaker 1: I could pass out. So I'm like, I got to

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Speaker 1: hit up Christy, like this is not common, right, Like

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Speaker 1: this is not normal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: You know if you're looking at the NBA playoffs, Rich,

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Speaker 1: and I think you've got Jared with us now too.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, he's up.

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Speaker 5: Good morning guy, he's.

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Speaker 2: Got what's up, Jared?

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Speaker 4: How are you doing?

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Speaker 5: But how are you feeling?

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Speaker 4: Bud?

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Speaker 1: Not bad. Rich was just like, man, you got a

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Speaker 1: tale to tell, and I was like, yeah, let me

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Speaker 2: I didn't mean to take that law apologize for that.

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Speaker 4: I was hanging on. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: I'm just glad you're okay.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, what happened was a little connection speed bump.

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Speaker 2: What was going on over there?

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Speaker 6: No, I just you know, you know how it is.

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Speaker 6: On the back end of the morning, I was too big.

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Speaker 6: Is he handicapping nurfies for today?

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Speaker 4: Dude? I was betting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was betting Japanese basketball late last night and looking

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Speaker 1: at NBA lines, so I yeah, that was crazy. The

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Speaker 1: I mean. And that finally dawned on me, Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: it's time for countdown. And I did a mad dash

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Speaker 1: in here. So it was this a little rocky, but

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Speaker 1: where we're looking at these playoff games and the insanity

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Speaker 1: Michaels last night because this typically happens in an NFL season,

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Speaker 1: right where al Michaels after an insane week, all the

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Speaker 1: things we know are somehow disproving, like all the good

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Speaker 1: al Michaels will say we know nothing, right Like, That's

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Speaker 1: what the NBA playoffs remind me of.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Think about Denver, think about the Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: So the Nuggets last night, Game three, they have a

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Speaker 1: big surprise upset win. Game one, they had a big

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Speaker 2: They lost by forty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like go figure, and you could go series

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Speaker 1: by series. Boston loses twice at home to the Knicks,

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Speaker 1: as these series are playing mind games with us right now?

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Speaker 1: What's something concrete that you guys can cling on to

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Speaker 1: right now in terms of what you think is going

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Speaker 3: Think one of the things that's gonna end up happening

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Speaker 3: is the Celtics will get knocked out. I don't think

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Speaker 3: they're as good as they were last year. I think

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Speaker 3: they've ran into a real hornet's nest. With this New

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Speaker 3: York Knicks team obviously trailing. It's not a death knell,

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Speaker 3: but it isn't a fortuitous start for Boston and I

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Speaker 3: just I just look at this, this scrappy Knicks team.

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Speaker 3: I don't even want to call them scrappy. That's probably

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Speaker 3: too underwhelming of a of an assessment. I think that

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Speaker 3: it's possible for them to lose here or potentially be

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Speaker 3: beaten up enough during the course of this series that

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Speaker 3: it will affect their standing in the East moving on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sold that it's over yet.

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Speaker 5: On Boston, I think you.

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Speaker 6: Don't sound like a Knicks fan, Jared, What's I know?

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Speaker 6: I know, and trust me, trust me. This has pained

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Speaker 6: me over the last two days because all I can

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Speaker 6: think about is Nicks Pacers Eastern Conference Finals reboot from

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Speaker 6: the nineties and thirteen year old Jared and nineteen ninety

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Speaker 6: nine watching Larry Johnson hit a four point play and

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Speaker 6: go nuts in a bar in South Florida, hanging out

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Speaker 6: like that's It's the only thing running through my mind

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Speaker 6: over the last two days. But then I have to

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Speaker 6: take a step back and say, the Celtics are still

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Speaker 6: favored to win the series. And that is the part

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Speaker 6: where you're like, Okay, obviously the market is giving a

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Speaker 6: lot of respect like Boston. No matter what happens tonight,

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Speaker 6: even if they lose tonight, they're gonna be favored in

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Speaker 6: Game four again on the road. They're favored tonight. They're

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Speaker 6: And if they can figure out this mental block of man,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say woodshed, but I think they.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting when you see more veteran teams

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Speaker 3: it's amped up to level. But for whatever reason, these

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's gonna be Boston.

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Speaker 4: As well.

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Speaker 6: I really hope I'm wrong about this take, but I

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Speaker 5: I hope I'm so wrong.

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Speaker 6: Come on next week, you'll be like Jaredy, that was

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Speaker 6: one of the worst takes you've ever given your life.

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Speaker 2: Never be happier, you know, Yeah, yeah, I'll be honest.

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Speaker 6: I might give out the Celtics to win the series

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Speaker 5: These are the team.

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Speaker 6: This is the last This is the last ten years

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Speaker 5: The list is it's pretty long.

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Speaker 6: The Knicks last year against the Pacers, now, very different scenario.

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Speaker 5: They had like no team left by the end. There

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Speaker 6: The Warriors against the Kings right two years ago when

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Speaker 6: It'll be a different scenario for Boston this year. The

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Speaker 6: a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 5: Actually, in twenty two.

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Speaker 6: And then the big one, of course, is in the

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Speaker 6: NBA Finals, right the Bucks were down two oh to

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Speaker 6: the Sons came back and won.

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Speaker 2: Soh yeah, I think it went ballistic.

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Speaker 6: And they won four straight like that was it was over.

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Speaker 6: They were down two oh and that was it.

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Speaker 4: It was done.

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Speaker 6: Giannis went into god mode. So I think it depends

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Speaker 6: live by the three, die by the three. The Celtics

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Speaker 5: We see it a lot in the mid major ranks.

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Speaker 6: Right in the NCAA tournament, these teams come in, they

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Speaker 6: that just makes them that much more scary because we

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Speaker 1: I just want to confirm that we're pretty good friends

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Speaker 6: Always but no matter what you say, and also I mean,

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, it was just feeling weird this week, Jared.

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Speaker 1: You can sort of bookend it with the Bulls being

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Speaker 4: The dunk gosh. Yeah, yeah, And I.

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Speaker 1: Believe it was the same series that Charles Smith was

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Speaker 6: I think that's all right, right, I have to go.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's been a lot of instances of teams

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Speaker 5: So it's happened a decent amount.

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Speaker 2: Happened with Barkley a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: One time was the best of five series, remember that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys or for the Steelers? Right, that's a simple question, Rich,

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Speaker 1: Which do you like better? Do you like it for

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh or for Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Here, Well, first, I want to start with one of

440
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Speaker 3: the best tweets I read about this whole situation. It

441
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Speaker 3: was man, George Pickens went from a team that's gonna

442
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Speaker 3: easily lose in.

443
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Speaker 4: The playoffs with a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: With no arm to a team that's gonna easily lose

445
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs with a quarterback with no arm. But

446
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Speaker 3: he'll play at four point thirty on Sundays because that's

447
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Speaker 3: the time the Dallas.

448
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 4: Cowboys always play in that time zone. Hey, look, here's

449
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Speaker 4: the deal.

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Speaker 3: Whether you're you're getting more primetime games and that's a

451
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Speaker 3: booie to your confidence, or you're playing opposite Cede Lamb

452
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Speaker 3: and that's a booye to your confidence, or you know

453
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Speaker 3: you think more highly of Dak Prescott than you do

454
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Speaker 3: the couple quarterbacks, or I should say the few quarterbacks

455
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Speaker 3: who have thrown to George Pickens now over his short

456
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Speaker 3: career with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I think this is a

457
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Speaker 3: better move for Dallas. I also think it may have

458
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Speaker 3: been the only move for Pittsburgh. For Pittsburgh, look, it's

459
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Speaker 3: sort of like the fallacy of some costs that were

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Speaker 3: that would keep them involved with George Pickens. He was

461
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Speaker 3: clearly unhappy. He wanted out. He's very talented. You want

462
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Speaker 3: to keep talent, but you can't have talent play for

463
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Speaker 3: you that does want to play for you, So you

464
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Speaker 3: have to at some point assess the value he's worth

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Speaker 3: in trade and then pull that trigger if it is

466
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Speaker 3: what's best for your team. So I think the Pittsburgh

467
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Speaker 3: Steelers probably got better here because they unhitched their wagon

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Speaker 3: from a guy who did not want to be with

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Speaker 3: the team. But if we're talking about dollars and cents,

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Speaker 3: if we're talking about who benefits more from this trade,

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Speaker 3: it really does feel like the Dallas Cowboys got much

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Speaker 3: more dynamic offensively.

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Speaker 6: Agreed, I don't really think there's anything to analyze on

474
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Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh side. Jet they're getting back draft picks and

475
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Speaker 6: we have no idea who's playing quarterback for them? Like

476
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Speaker 6: Pittsburgh is just the enigma wrapped in a riddle, like

477
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Speaker 6: we think it's like Aaron Rodgers is the riddler, like

478
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Speaker 6: giving like the Steelers clues, Hey, I might come here,

479
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Speaker 6: I might come there. You never know, like Gotham is

480
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Speaker 6: just is up for grabs.

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Speaker 5: Here in this situation.

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Speaker 6: I know last year obviously was the year that he

483
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Speaker 6: actually was in Gotham, but it just feels like he's

484
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Speaker 6: holding the Steelers hostage like it honestly at this point,

485
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Speaker 6: and it makes sense why he would wait until after

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Speaker 6: the schedule release. Now, I know the schedule has been

487
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Speaker 6: pretty much set for a while, so even if he

488
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Speaker 6: announced it today, I doubt the NFL gurus that create

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Speaker 6: the schedule. I'm convinced it's like three brains in a

490
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Speaker 6: room somewhere that are, like, you know, moving all these

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Speaker 6: pieces together.

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Speaker 5: They're not just gonna magically change it.

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Speaker 6: Maybe they will, But the reason why I think from

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Speaker 6: what I've heard, that he wants to wait till after

495
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Speaker 6: the schedule release, and why the Steelers maybe want to wait,

496
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Speaker 6: is because they don't want to be saddled with like

497
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Speaker 6: nine primetime games.

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Speaker 5: The biggest death blow.

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Speaker 6: For a season. And Rich, you can attest to this

500
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Speaker 6: or not. Everyone loves to play Sunday at one o'clock.

501
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Speaker 6: Like it's consistent, you're on schedule. The practice schedule is

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Speaker 6: the same every week. If you go from playing Thursday

503
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Speaker 6: to Sunday night, then you play Monday, then you play Thursday,

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Speaker 6: then you play Saturday.

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Speaker 5: You have all these primetime games. It makes it a

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Speaker 5: lot more.

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Speaker 6: Difficult I think to manage the day to day of

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Speaker 6: the schedule.

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Speaker 4: Rich, do you agree with that, Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: I think that when you have a little bit more consistency,

511
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Speaker 3: when there's a little bit more I don't want to

512
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Speaker 3: say expectation, but when there's a little bit more of

513
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Speaker 3: a expected routine that's.

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Speaker 4: The word I'm certain for routine.

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Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, sudden, you find yourself getting

516
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Speaker 3: into a groove a little bit faster during the course

517
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Speaker 3: of a season. And then also, you know, this doesn't

518
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Speaker 3: always impact a coastal team, but depending on schedules, you know,

519
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: there are certain times where it's Seattle, or it's Pittsburgh,

520
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: or it's New England, or it's Buffalo or it's La

521
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Speaker 3: one of the LA teams where it's.

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Speaker 4: Like man, did you see how many miles they had.

523
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Speaker 3: To travel over the course of this stretch of their season.

524
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Speaker 3: It was like ten thousand miles in a month. And

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Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, well, you don't really have those problems

526
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Speaker 3: when you're in Dallas versus when you're in Pittsburgh because

527
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Speaker 3: you're in the middle of the country. Every flight is

528
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Speaker 3: like two hours, So even little things like that crossing

529
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Speaker 3: time zones isn't as big of a deal. Even little

530
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Speaker 3: things like that, when there's more routine and you're a

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Speaker 3: finely tuned athlete, typically there's better results.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think Pittsburgh doesn't want to deal with

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Speaker 6: that this year. So if all of a sudden they

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Speaker 6: don't wait, they wait till after the schedule leads to

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Speaker 6: announce Rodgers and they just get their normal games, they'll

536
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Speaker 6: probably have significantly fewer prime time games. That's just a hunch,

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00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 6: just a hunch.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. I'll say real fast, because I have no choice.

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00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: I look at I think the Cowboys got the better

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00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: end of the trade here for a couple of reasons. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: George Pickens, incredibly talented, has to mature a ton. We

542
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Speaker 1: all know this. That's the obvious truth. With George Pickens

543
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: where he's put up numbers, He's just been a hothead.

544
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: Can't control his temper right, can't control his emotions. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: you've got the baggage part of it. It's not just

546
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Speaker 1: the talent for the Cowboys. The baggage comes along with

547
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Speaker 1: it unless he matures immediately, which is a lot to ask.

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Speaker 1: But even with that said, I just look at the

549
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Speaker 1: Steelers here and to me, you guys, correct.

550
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: Me if you think I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: I think the only time the addition by subtraction thing

552
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Speaker 1: works for a team is if that team has superior

553
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Speaker 1: talent in the first place. You know, like, it's not

554
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: like the Steelers are oozing with talent left and right

555
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: all over that roster. You know, we don't even know

556
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback for them. Do they have superior talent

557
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: then the Chiefs, than the Bills, than the Bengals, then

558
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: the Ravens teams in their they probably third just in

559
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Speaker 1: terms of talent in their own division. So I don't

560
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Speaker 1: see how addition by subtraction puts you over the hump

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Speaker 1: of those teams that are all in your way. So

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Speaker 1: I think that it's the Steelers that come out on

563
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Speaker 1: the losing end of this. Okay, now here's the game

564
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Speaker 1: I want to play, all right, winners and losers. We

565
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: got to go fast, Okay, the rapid fire style. A

566
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: couple of comments will move it along. We'll just go

567
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Speaker 1: with certain figures, right, and you tell me based on

568
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Speaker 1: the trade, was he a winner or a loser?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the obvious, George Pickens getting traded from

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Speaker 1: the Steelers to the Cowboys. Does he win with this

572
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Speaker 1: trade going down?

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Speaker 3: I think he does, yes, and for the s I

574
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Speaker 3: already described, but I'll add one more. I think he

575
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: hasn't unlocked his true potential because the position he plays

576
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: his incumbent upon having a talented quarterback. And I don't

577
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Speaker 3: think he's played with an overwhelmingly talented quarterback yet. And

578
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Speaker 3: I think Dak Prescott can be a top ten quarterback

579
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Speaker 3: when he's playing at his best.

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Speaker 6: Bingo and now he is legit r WR two where

581
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Speaker 6: CD lamb like he's the He's the Robin to the

582
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Speaker 6: Batman for sure, and he also plays indoors. Now, I

583
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Speaker 6: actually absolutely think it's a win for George Picks.

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Speaker 1: I do too, so it's a clean sweep. You know,

585
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: majority rules here, the three of us vote. You know,

586
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Speaker 1: whatever the majority is on, that's what it'll be, you know,

587
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: and it's set in stone like no one can disagree

588
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Speaker 1: with that. I think he's a winner real fast because

589
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Speaker 1: of a couple of things where what you guys mentioned,

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Speaker 1: he's got Daks' quarterback, he's on the same field as

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Speaker 1: CD Lamb. You can do a whole lot worse than

592
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Speaker 1: that in terms of matchups, the coverage that you're going

593
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Speaker 1: to see. Are you gonna see doubles? Not routinely when

594
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Cedee Lamb is on the field, you know, so you

595
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: can eat. You can put up some numbers over here.

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Speaker 1: And I also think fit. You guys might push back

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Speaker 1: on this, but think about it. If you think a

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Speaker 1: fit Mike Tomlin is no nonsense and that and the

599
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: Steelers really, if you think about it, they are too.

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Speaker 1: It's the standard is the standard, it's lunch pale, let's

601
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: line up and smack you around here. That's the Steelers, okay,

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Speaker 1: And that's really not George Pickens. And I'm not blaming

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Speaker 1: the Steelers for him being immature, but sometimes fit has

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Speaker 1: something to do with how comfortable you feel. And I

605
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Speaker 1: don't think George Pickens was a great fit for Pittsburgh.

606
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't. And the Cowboys they're looney tunes.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna work out where. This

608
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Speaker 1: could be the rare time where a wacky environment could

609
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Speaker 1: help a player, or it could go the other way.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's an immature guy, it's an immature surrounding

611
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Speaker 1: way you think is gonna happen. The immature guy's gonna

612
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Speaker 1: be even more immature. It could work out that way.

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Speaker 1: But I do think I think going back to Pittsburgh,

614
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: square peg, roundhole, it just wasn't a good fit. Yeah,

615
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Speaker 1: And so I think he's a winner moving on and

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Speaker 1: getting traded here. How about Mike Tomlin does the Steelers

617
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: head coach? Is he a winner or a loser with

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Speaker 1: this transaction?

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Speaker 3: I think he's a winner as well. I do view

620
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Speaker 3: this more win win win all the way across the board.

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Speaker 3: And here's the reason why. Because I think Mike Tomlin

622
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Speaker 3: had a problem, and I think you perfectly perfectly described it, Brian.

623
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Speaker 3: He was relying on a wide receiver two to be

624
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Speaker 3: a wide receiver one. And I don't think George Pickens

625
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: in that environment had the maturity and the personality to

626
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Speaker 3: handle that responsibility. I think he is going to be

627
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: better casted as a batman to somebody else's robin, excuse me,

628
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: a robin to somebody else's batman than the other way around.

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see better results from him with

630
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Speaker 3: less responsibility and unless eyes and attention being placed on

631
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: his antics, you know, Ceedee, Lamb is the guy until

632
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: proven differently, right, So he's going to be chasing what

633
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: eighty eight is doing out there on.

634
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Speaker 4: The football field.

635
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Speaker 3: And I think that I think that Tomlin kind of

636
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: felt that he knew that the maturity issue was there,

637
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Speaker 3: and this is a better deal for the Pittsburgh Steelers

638
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: as well.

639
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think Tomlin's a winner here too.

640
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Speaker 6: So I'll read you some of Mike Tomlin quotes that

641
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 6: confirm he's a winner. Obviously, the one we all know

642
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 6: is the standard is the standard.

643
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 5: That's one of my quotes.

644
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 6: Ever, another one that I like is I want volunteers

645
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 6: not hostages.

646
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: I think that applies.

647
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 6: Pretty well to the situation here. And then the final

648
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 6: one that I think is the cherry on top as

649
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 6: to why Mike Tomlin's a winner here, I expect routine

650
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 6: catches to be made routinely again. Tomlin is one of

651
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 6: the best equips quotes in the NFL. Right now, Those

652
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 6: three I think are perfectly sum up why.

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00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: He is a winner in this situation.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a tricky one for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say he's a winner, but there's some

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Speaker 1: fine print, you know where George Pickens did not fit

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Speaker 1: Tomlin's whole approach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did not fit at all.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin is no nonsense, Let's get after it, you know,

660
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Speaker 1: and George Pickens is, yeah, I don't know. I'm feeling

661
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: irritated that I didn't put the ball on third and three,

662
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Speaker 1: and I want to let the world know right now,

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Speaker 1: and it just I could you could tell Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: is like, oh this freaking guy again. My gosh. The

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00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: reason I say that he's a winner is what I

666
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: just explained, Like, Pickens never fit in and you did

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00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: pick up DK Metcalf. You know, it's not like the

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00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: cupboard is bear. So I think that's a big deal

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Speaker 1: as far as that goes. Okay, we'll do one more

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Speaker 1: real fast. How about Aaron Rodgers. He's gotta be a

671
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: loser in this, gotta be What is Rodgers care about

672
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: drama and antics and oh I didn't get the ball.

673
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: And Rogers wants talent, like as much talent around him.

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00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: So if he does go to the Steelers, he's equipped

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00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: with enough firepower to do some damage and go far

676
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and make some noise and get some headlines.

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00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: What does he care about George Pickens not fitting into

678
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: the culture, being a diva at times?

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00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: He probably doesn't care at all.

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00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get what you mean.

681
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Speaker 3: However, I still feel like Rogers is a winner, really,

682
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: because here's the thing. His signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers

683
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: is still an if you know, we're not one hundred

684
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: percent sure there, and so wouldn't you rather have more

685
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: information than less? If he would have signed a week

686
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Speaker 3: ago with the Steelers and all of a sudden they

687
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: trade away one of the more dynamic pass catchers in

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Speaker 3: the league. I mean, if I'm Rogers, I'm throwing my

689
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: hands up, like, are you kidding me? Timings everything in

690
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: this world. This must have been on the back burner

691
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: the whole offseason, and now they go and do it,

692
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: you know, days after I signed.

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Speaker 4: With the team.

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00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: So I feel like with now he pretty much has

695
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: the full information on what the offensive side of this

696
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: roster is going to look like moving into the regular season.

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00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: It's more and better information to make his decision with

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00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: whether or not he wants to sign up and play

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Speaker 3: for the Steelers this season.

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Speaker 6: So there, he went there, and he convinced me. I

701
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 6: was gonna say Rodgers is a winner, but I actually

702
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 6: agree or excuse me, he as a loser, but I

703
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 6: actually agree with Rich. I think the more information Aaron

704
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 6: has the better, and I think that now he has

705
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 6: more of a set lineup, he can make a better decision.

706
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 6: Now that doesn't mean it's a good decision, but I

707
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 6: think Aaron Rodgers now has more Right, Like, if we're

708
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 6: making a bet, I want all the information before I

709
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 6: make my bet, I want to know who's playing.

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00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: I want to know the lineup and all that. So, yeah,

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 5: I agree, Right, that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: You had the swaying vote, Jared, How do you know

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00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: what a sorry? How can Rogers be a winner? He

714
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: just lost a dynamic wide receiver who, yeah, is immature

715
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: and tough to deal with, but so is he He's

716
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Speaker 1: just not a wide receiver. It would be two peas

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00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: in a pot if he's teaming up with George Pickens.

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Speaker 6: You know, two negatives make a positive. I guess maybe maybe.

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Speaker 7: Check this out our late letter.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Yes, the platter over here, Jared, mister theme man,

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Speaker 1: what are.

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Speaker 2: We doing over here?

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Speaker 5: Well, the theme today.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna stick with NBA Props for at least another

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Speaker 6: couple of weeks as we kind of, you know, sift

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Speaker 6: our way through the rest of the NBA postseason. So

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00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 6: let's get to a guy who I think is actually

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00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 6: very undervalued in this series between the Timberwolves, and I

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00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 6: would say it's Julius Randall. So Julius Randall to me,

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00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 6: rebound prop is one that I'm looking at today over

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00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 6: six and a half rebounds. So he is a guy

762
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 6: that is usually priced in the seven and a half range.

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00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 6: He averages about seven point.

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Speaker 5: Two during the regular season.

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00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 6: We've seen that number come down a little bit in

766
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 6: the postseason, but he finally broke out against the Warriors

767
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 6: the other night with seven rebounds and eleven assists and

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00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 6: twenty four points. Again, this is one of the best

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00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 6: games I think Julius Randall's played in quite some time,

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00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 6: the all around game kind of coming to the forefront.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 5: He's only gone over this number in two.

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00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 6: Postseason games so far, but it just feels like on

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00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 6: the road, the Warriors offense is kind of, you know,

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00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 6: in shambles right now. There's gonna be more misses and

776
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 6: that means more rebounds. I really think Julius Randall, Guys,

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00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 6: I don't want to say Minnesota is going to be

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00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 6: a favorite going forward. They're obviously a favorite in this series.

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00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 6: They're probably gonna be a dog against either Denver or OKC.

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00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 6: But I think Randall's going to be a big key

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00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: to this series. We'll go over six and a half rebounds.

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00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: All right, Jalen Brunson over six and a half assist

783
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 3: against the Celtics. The Seeds, they're going to try to

784
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: continue to keep the ball out of his hands, which

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00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 3: means he's going to look for some dimes when he

786
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 3: can't cash in himself. So give me Jalen Brunson over

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Speaker 3: six and a half assists.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is a pick a little bit based

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00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: on principle, because I knew it would be orange and

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00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: blue skies with you guys, you know, So give me

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00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: og Ananobi under fifteen and a half points and listen,

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00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: it's been feaster fam in the first two games with

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Speaker 1: og twenty nine points in game one, only five points

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00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: last game. So the zig zag would make you think, hey,

795
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: maybe over. But he does such a great job defensively,

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00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: and it's been a common theme against the Celtics. He's

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00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: gone under his point total because he really does buy

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Speaker 1: in defensivelace. I'll go under fifteen and a half coming

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Speaker 1: up next. Defense is often rewarded. Okay, we will get

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Speaker 1: to bad defense often gets rewarded in this sport. Momentarily,

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Speaker 1: can we get back to my crazy NIX friend, This guy,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Love, this guy we work together in New York,

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00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: and he's just hitting me up with all these ridiculous knxstakes.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 4: That might be.

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00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, Oh, our fourth quarter three point

813
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: defense has been good and great at times, and I'm like,

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00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: you're drunk, what are you talking about. I sent him

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Speaker 1: a YouTube clip. I just on to YouTube video where

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00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: they're showing highlights of the fourth quarter, and I'm like,

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00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: just watch the first three minutes. You see Peyton Pritchard

818
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: wide open three. You see Al Horford wide open three,

819
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: no one near him. Okay, Like, that's not good to

820
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: great three point defense by the Knicks. It's just not

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00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Here's the reality in basketball that's fascinating. Oftentimes bad defense

822
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: gets rewarded.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, how how can that be. It's

825
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: called a rim. Okay, it's called the hoop. You can

826
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: play bad defense, not challenge a shot, not rotate, not

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Speaker 1: move your feet, not do anything well, and the Celtics

828
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: just miss an open shot and it looks great in

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Speaker 1: the box score. You know, it looks like the Knicks

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00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: are really they're playing some championship tea.

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Speaker 2: No they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not at all. It's what happens often is, especially

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00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, bad defense gets rewarded. That's foreign in football.

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Speaker 1: That does not happen in football. I think about it

835
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: like bad defense the defensive line is just getting knocked

836
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. Well, they're gonna run the

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00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: ball down your throat. It's not like they somehow screw

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00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: that up. Or if you have wide open, wide receivers,

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00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: I guess there's a chance you get a Tim Tebow

840
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: esque throw from time to time, you know what I mean,

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00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Like Anthony Richardson says, hey, my guy's wide open oops

842
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: and airmails. It will happen from time to time, but

843
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: not as common as basketball. It is common in basketball

844
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: where bad defense will get rewarded, often with just missed

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Speaker 1: open shots. And we've gotten a steady dye of that,

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00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: especially in Game one for the Celtics, who are what

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00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: fifteen of sixty from three point range. There were so

848
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: many good looks that they're just clanging. That's not good defense.

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Speaker 1: Don't confuse it for good defense.

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Speaker 3: I agree with some of what you're saying. I will

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00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: say the Knicks are playing a bigger role in this

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00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: series than you're giving them credit for it, because I

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00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 3: think TIB's system, Tom Thibodeau's system demands elite effort on defense,

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00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: and I think that's the reason why he can clash

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00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: with certain professional locker rooms, because not everybody wants to

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00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 3: work as hard on one side of the court as

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00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: they do on the other. And I think we know

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00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 3: what the other side is. It's the offensive side. Everybody

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00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: wants that. Everybody wants, you know, the riches and the

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00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 3: spoils that come with being a great offensive basketball team.

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00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 4: However, not everybody wants to put in the work.

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00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: But I think he's found a group, especially around Heart,

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00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: who I would say is one of their more exceptional defenders,

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00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 3: and Ananobe, who is very, very talented, and I would

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00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: say those are their two dogs. And then you know,

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00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: you look beyond there. They have rim protection and then

867
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: they're playing with this insane playoff intensity right now that

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00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Celtics has quite frankly matched yet.

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Speaker 3: That could shift, you know, the Celtics could extinguish some

870
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: of this excitement going into Madison Square Garden as this

871
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: series moves to New York, and they are now looking

872
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: staring down dropping three to the next year in this series,

873
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: So things can change. I'm not saying they won't. I'm

874
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 3: saying it's a possibility for the Celtics still. But I'm

875
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: seeing things, especially on the defensive side of the court,

876
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: that really do that really do inspire me to believe

877
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 3: that not only are the Knicks one of the sweet

878
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: surprises out of the East this year, but potentially one

879
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: of those teams based on how good they look defensively

880
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: and then how good they can score, that they could potent.

881
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 4: I don't even want to get caught.

882
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: Up saying this because this is coming from like a

883
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: recovering Knicks fans from the John Starks, you know, Anthony Mason,

884
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: Patrick Ewing days, Like I love those teams growing up,

885
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: and I steered away from them. I was always a

886
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: Bulls fan when they played against the Bulls because everybody

887
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 3: was a Jordan fan.

888
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 4: But I grew up in New York.

889
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: So it's hard for me to say this with a

890
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: full chest and a lot of confidence in bravado, But

891
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: the Knicks are team that if they continue playing the

892
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: way they've played through the first two games or improve potentially,

893
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: this is a team that could take home a title,

894
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: that's getting very far down the road or crazy. But

895
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: I do I do love. I do love the effort

896
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: they're playing with defensively.

897
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: What did Paul Pierce say if if all right Celtics won,

898
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 6: if the Celtics didn't win Game two, he'd.

899
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 4: Walk to work? Yeah? Did, and he did.

900
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 5: If the Knicks win the.

901
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 6: Title, I will go to La and I will do

902
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 6: the show on Saturday morning from the studio.

903
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 5: I will walk through the debt. And I'm just kidding.

904
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: I will not do that Vegas to La.

905
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah for a second, I'm like, wait a minute, where

906
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: are you right now? Yeah?

907
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 5: Attempted the posts have attempted a hundred. I can't I

908
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 5: can't even imagine what kind of walk that would be.

909
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 5: I'd have to leave like that before.

910
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: It would be a rough walk.

911
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 6: If the Knicks win the title, I will do something grandiose.

912
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 5: Well, let's get to the finals.

913
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 6: First, and then we'll and then we'll cross the briefly

914
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 6: come to it, as my mom said. But the Celtics

915
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 6: have attempted one one hundred three point shots in two games.

916
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 6: What what's the what's the all the you know the

917
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 6: viral uh, you know talk these days?

918
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 5: One hundred men versus one gorilla?

919
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred three point shots versus five Boston Celtics.

920
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 5: Can we figure out a way to get across the

921
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 5: finish light here with some of these shots?

922
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 6: Like, it's it's insane the volume of shots that they've taken.

923
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 6: And you would think, right, the definition of insanity is

924
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 6: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting

925
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 6: a different result. That's how this series has been for

926
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 6: Boston so far. Now, I think the shots are going

927
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 6: to start falling at some point. The law of averages

928
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 6: say they have to. But I kind of hope it's

929
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 6: not tonight because if it is tonight, Like, how does

930
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 6: our perception of this series change if the Celtics shoot

931
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 6: forty percent from three tonight and win by twenty Yeah,

932
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, it's like, well, Boston's going to

933
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 6: win this series. Like that's how quickly I think things

934
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 6: can change.

935
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 5: And all it takes is a few shots to go.

936
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: Down, Absolutely no doubt about it. Because let's not forget

937
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean everything. But at the beginning of

938
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: the series, the Celtics were what minus nine hundred to

939
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: win the series, Like, you'd have to risk nine hundred

940
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: dollars just to win one hundred dollars. That's how big

941
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: of a betting favorite the Celtics were to beat the

942
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: Knicks in the second round. And so, yeah, to your point, Jared,

943
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: it takes one good game. It takes one win, and

944
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: especially if it's impressive and most of the reaction, well

945
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: is what we expected.

946
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: Here come the Celtics. You know, they're just better.

947
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, Rich is I think two things

948
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: can be true at the same time. Yeah, the Knicks

949
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: play with effort defensively, they buy in, they compete. That

950
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're incapable of allowing open shots, and they have.

951
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: They've allowed a lot of them. They just haven't been

952
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: falling for the Celtics. So I don't you know, TIBs,

953
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: I love him and he absolutely preaches defense and the

954
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: Knicks they typically play good defense.

955
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: And Anobe is a good defender.

956
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: You know, he can go out and challenge shots with

957
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: the best of them. Bridges, Yeah, they pick up another wing.

958
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: So they specifically built to compete against the Celtics. You

959
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: gotta have wings against Tatum and Brown just have to.

960
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: But even a team that competes hard is capable of

961
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: giving up open shots routinely. And they have, They absolutely have.

962
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: The proof's in the pudding. They can just put on

963
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: a clip and just watch the fourth quarters and it's

964
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: like open three, open three.

965
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: Just count the open threes.

966
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 9: Yeh.

967
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: Their quality looks.

968
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: It's not like there's a hand in their face every

969
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: single time, and you're like, wow, man, that's just championship

970
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: defense right there. That's not what's going on, all right.

971
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: I agree with everything you said. I'll just add this context.

972
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: It is very easy to make an open three in

973
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: an empty gym. It is very easy to make an

974
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: open three, you know, in minute one of the first quarter.

975
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: It's very difficult when you're playing against a team that's

976
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: breathing down your neck, that is posting and posing a

977
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 3: real offensive threat on the opposite side of the court,

978
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 3: and then wearing you out defensively, where you're trying to

979
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: hit that three, even if it's an open look, huffing

980
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: and puffing because this team's got your running ragged. Like

981
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 3: Thibodeaux wants his opponents to run against teams that he's

982
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: fielding that he's putting on the court. It's a lot

983
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: harder to bang those threes, you know. So conditioning comes

984
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 3: into play when you're playing against a Tom Thibodeau group,

985
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: and this truly is a Tom Thibodeau group. This is

986
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 3: a team that's in better shape than most of the

987
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: opponents that they've played this season. They're wearing out the Celtics.

988
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: You've seen it on their home floor. It feels like

989
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 3: a lot of those fourth quarter misses where the Celtics

990
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: have been so clutch in the past, is because it's

991
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: harder to concentrate when you feel your heartbeat and your eyeballs,

992
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: you know, because you've been you know, you've been gassing

993
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 3: out for you know, some part of thirty six minutes

994
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: on the hardwoods. So I'll say this, I think that

995
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 3: you're You're both right. I do think that on paper,

996
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 3: the Celtics are a better team. But I don't want

997
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: to hand them their flowers yet because frankly, they haven't

998
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: earned them in this series yet. They've looked in those

999
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: clutch moments where if they've looked so so much better

1000
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: in the regular season and in the past playoff a

1001
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: recent past playoffs that they haven't sold me yet, not

1002
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 3: in this series. I need to see them win Game

1003
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: three in order for my opinion to even start to change.

1004
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 3: I need to see them win pretty convincingly in game

1005
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 3: three from my opinion on this series to start to change.

1006
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 5: Heartbeat in your eyeballs.

1007
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 6: That sounds like what I'm gonna be doing later tonight

1008
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 6: in Vegas, going out hitting the club scene, going.

1009
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 5: My heart beat my eyeballs tonight, let's go.

1010
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 6: I think what I think what Rich is referring to

1011
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 6: is the phenomenon known as TSS tightsphink their syndrome of

1012
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 6: a bad.

1013
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 5: Case in it right now. Yeah, these are open looks

1014
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 5: that they're just bricking and.

1015
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: They're wide open shots.

1016
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.

1017
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 6: Think the I think the I think the day off,

1018
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 6: and I know I said this in the first hour,

1019
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 6: I'll harp it again. I think the day off, and

1020
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 6: I think the change in venue. You would think like

1021
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 6: if you just if you asked me before the series,

1022
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 6: and you're like, oh wow, the Knicks get an extra

1023
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 6: day off to rest those weary legs that Tibbs has

1024
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 6: been running into the ground for the last eighty two

1025
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 6: plus games, and they get to go home to the

1026
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 6: garden that's gonna be rocking. These are advantages for the Knicks.

1027
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 6: I actually think they are advantages for the Celtics. And again,

1028
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 6: I know that sounds crazy, but when you handicap this situation,

1029
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 6: Boston right now is beleaguered, you give them that extra

1030
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 6: day to clear their mind and you get to change

1031
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 6: the venue. I think that actually galvanizes this team. And

1032
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 6: I think that hostile environment right Rich, again, you could

1033
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 6: speak to this more than I can. Sometimes, when you're

1034
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 6: struggling and things aren't going well and then you get

1035
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 6: out of your element, you get into a road environment,

1036
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 6: everybody hates you, The Knicks fans are going to be

1037
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 6: at full throat the whole game. Sometimes that actually crystallizes

1038
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 6: your purpose, right.

1039
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: It can, It absolutely can.

1040
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: And Brian, I mean you've watched more playoff basketball than

1041
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: the two of us combined.

1042
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 4: I think I think.

1043
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 3: When I watch when I watch the NBA these days,

1044
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 3: what what I see as a game where the good

1045
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: usually out does the bad, you know what I mean?

1046
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 3: Like just because of even even though officials they they refs,

1047
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 3: they'll swallow the whistle more in the postseason, but this

1048
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: is this, this game still skews.

1049
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 4: Way more offensive.

1050
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: So the more complete offensive team usually does prevail, even

1051
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 3: even now and in today's NBA where where they're they're

1052
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: trying to bring back some of the luster and a

1053
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 3: lore from yesteryear, uh, allowing more to go. I think

1054
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: I think still, yeah, man, Like the emotional part of

1055
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: the game that you brought up, it factors and sometimes

1056
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 3: when you can get out of your element and get

1057
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: out of your head a little bit, it can have

1058
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: a big impact. So I'm not I'm helping your argument,

1059
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 3: both of your arguments here that the Celtics are the

1060
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: better team, and they they're more fortified team, but I

1061
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 3: need to see them play like the Celtics in Game

1062
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 3: three because they haven't played like themselves.

1063
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 4: In the first two games of this series.

1064
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: That's fair, all right, let me throw this at you

1065
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: real fast and we'll move it along.

1066
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: But I think a couple of things.

1067
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: I said this a little bit earlier, but I really

1068
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: do think it's part of this series where the Celtics

1069
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: are just in their own heads. You know, they one

1070
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: of the quarters in Game one. They missed nineteen of

1071
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 1: twenty shots from three, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

1072
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of those are quality looks. And so

1073
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: as an NBA guy, you're kind of messed up where

1074
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: I'm open, this is what we do, let it fly,

1075
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: and you miss it, and now you're second guessing yourself,

1076
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: like should I have taken that shot? But it was

1077
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: a quality look like it just didn't drop. But what

1078
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: And you're kind of just messed up. You're out of

1079
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: your rhythm, you're thinking too much. That's what I see

1080
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: from the Celtics. They're not playing free, you know, so

1081
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: I think the mental part of it kicks in. And

1082
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: I also think this, I think the Celtics are a

1083
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: lot like my Miami Dolphins. And hear me out on

1084
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: this because the Dolphins they're just a little bit too pretty,

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00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: and hear me out because the Celtics they do have

1086
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: the ground and pound element. But if you think about

1087
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, that's why they went offensive and defensive line

1088
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: in the draft, Like they're just not line up and

1089
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: just knock you off the line of scrimmage. That's just

1090
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: not them. Unfortunately, it's timing, its precision. It's pretty, it's

1091
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 1: pretty when the offense is functioning, but that raw power,

1092
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: it's just they don't rely on that as much or

1093
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: they don't have that aspect. I think that the Celtics

1094
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: just don't rely on that aspect as much. Where if

1095
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: you think about it, it's not as if they don't

1096
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 1: possess it. You've got Tatum and Brown. They're physical players.

1097
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: You're not gonna just push them around. You know, they're

1098
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: imposing wings. True Holiday is one of my favorite people

1099
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: on Earth. True Holiday is strong enough to guard centers,

1100
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: you know, like Drew Holliday is a man, you know.

1101
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: So I'm not calling them soft. I'm calling their style

1102
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: soft where they have offensively less ground and pound less. Okay,

1103
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: our shots aren't falling, That's cool. We're just going to

1104
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: attack the rim and there's nothing you can do about it.

1105
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: They're just like, well, I guess we're just gonna settle

1106
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: for jumpers and hopefully they fall right Like that, that's

1107
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: more of a softer approach offensively, and so I wish

1108
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: that they had a little bit more edge to them

1109
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: and a little less pretty to them, because they can

1110
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: play a physical style, they just oftentimes don't rely on

1111
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: it as much as they should.

1112
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think that's at play.

1113
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 3: Also, I'll be super quick here, I one hundred percent

1114
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 3: agree with what you're saying about the Dolphins and the

1115
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: Celtics both.

1116
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: However, I will say this, your.

1117
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 3: Opponent can also impose a factor on the conversation. And

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00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 3: I even though those are some wide open threes that

1119
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: the Celtics haven't cast in on, and some good looks

1120
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: from the field in general, you know, inside of the arc,

1121
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: I still think that the in the imposition of the

1122
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: New York Knicks defense and the conditioning that they've faced

1123
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 3: in this series has had an impact on some of

1124
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 3: those offensive misses. You know, everything happens in context. Nothing

1125
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 3: happens in an empty, empty gym, nothing happens in a vacuum.

1126
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 4: In the postseason, your.

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00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: Last defensive effort has an impact on your next offensive effort.

1128
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 3: And you know, the two hundred plays that have occurred

1129
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: before the final shot you take matter.

1130
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: So that's that's all I'm saying.

1131
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: I think the Knicks deserve a little more credit for

1132
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: the failure of the Celtics offensively then we're giving them.

1133
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know.

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00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 9: We're just gonna agree to disagree on this because I'm

1135
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 9: just not buying that there might be open jumpers because

1136
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 9: the Knicks are competing so hard, and that's I think

1137
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 9: a lot of it really is that the Celtics now

1138
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 9: they the Knicks finally have their attention now that they're

1139
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 9: down oh two, Because honestly, after being down one, you

1140
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 9: think the Celtics are panicking like, oh my gosh, we

1141
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 9: missed all these threes and we're playing the Knicks like

1142
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 9: we could be had here.

1143
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: I think they're like, yeah, we missed some shots were good,

1144
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: and I think now down oh two, it's kind of like,

1145
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: all right, let's go time, man. We can't drop the

1146
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: third game in a row. So I think that, like

1147
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: the Celtics are defending champs, you think they're panicking after

1148
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: being down oh one to the Knicks. I think they're

1149
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: a little bit too full of themselves. That's part of

1150
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: it too. So all right, we've got rich oron Berger,

1151
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

1152
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: I'm Brian No. It's time for the tyrack play of

1153
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Speaker 2: the day.

1154
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: Loose Baul comes down at Jamal Murray.

1155
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Speaker 4: He's got door to beat, lay up, God tied out thunder.

1156
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: That's open up a seven point lead and overtime, let's

1157
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: go yay, let's.

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Speaker 7: Follow the money, real good money.

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Speaker 4: Ah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we are following the money with our good friend

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1182
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Seamus.

1183
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: So we're knee deep in the playoffs. Man, are you uh?

1184
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: Are you betting more puck or more hoops?

1185
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: Here?

1186
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 2: What have you had more success with?

1187
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, always great to be back. I mainly hockey

1188
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 8: for me. I feel like I'm I'm better understanding hockey.

1189
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 8: I think I'm more you know, fluid with the markets there,

1190
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 8: So I've been betting more. Howky, I enjoy the sport

1191
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 8: more than I enjoy the NBA, So definitely more hockey

1192
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 8: for me.

1193
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 4: That doesn't surprise me.

1194
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 6: I honestly, I wouldn't have been surprised if you said

1195
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 6: college hockey instead of the NHL. Well, based off of

1196
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 6: what we've been in the vibes of the Shamous Special

1197
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 6: over the years, all right, I guess we'll just dig

1198
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 6: into the game's NBA first, as we kind of go

1199
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 6: in chronological order, I would assume the Celtics are a

1200
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 6: pretty popular bet today, although Shamus, maybe maybe the public's

1201
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 6: going to see that plus nine next to the Knicks

1202
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 6: and be like, oh, they're up to Oh maybe we

1203
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 6: just want to cash in on new York here. But

1204
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 6: what are the odds telling you with this early game

1205
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 6: today in the NBA.

1206
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 8: No, it's like everyone's betting with tomorrow's newspaper. Everyone seems

1207
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 8: to be thinking the Celtics are just going to easily

1208
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 8: cruise by this one. We're pretty lopsided on the spread

1209
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 8: and the money line here, so I think we're gonna

1210
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 8: need the dogs to bark both NBA games here. I

1211
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 8: mean lots of money coming in on the Celtics. I mean,

1212
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 8: if any knicks money's coming in, I'm seeing it mainly

1213
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 8: on you know, some some player props like Brunson, maybe

1214
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 8: just score thirty. But you know, Nick's bets few and

1215
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 8: far between right now.

1216
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I gave Brunson over six and a half

1217
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: assists earlier because I do think the Celtics are going

1218
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: to try to get the ball out of his hands.

1219
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 4: But I agree with you.

1220
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of people are going to

1221
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 3: the window with yesterday's news and they're not looking at

1222
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 3: this series. So I don't know, maybe that's a little

1223
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 3: too much hope mix into this equation. Hey, Seamus, we're

1224
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: bouncing around a little bit, going from hockey to postseason basketball.

1225
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question about football? All right,

1226
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 3: how do you handicap this? Aaron Rodgers? Like, if you're

1227
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 3: going to put a number on the chances that he

1228
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: signs with the Field versus the chances that he signs

1229
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 3: with the Pittsburgh Steelers, what kind of numbers are we

1230
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 3: looking at here?

1231
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 8: You have to think Steelers are just a huge favorite.

1232
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 8: It feels like they're the only team that's coming up.

1233
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 8: Feels like everyone else's QB situation is pretty much made

1234
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 8: like it almost even say Rogers to this. If he

1235
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 8: signs anywhere and doesn't retire Steelers, you have to think

1236
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 8: of like almost minus five hundred at the very least.

1237
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 8: That's if he signs and you know, doesn't sit out

1238
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 8: a here or retires.

1239
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 1: I agree, interesting, we're covering everything. Do we have any

1240
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: cricket questions for.

1241
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Speaker 4: Champions League this week?

1242
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 8: He just had to suspending in the Premier League?

1243
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 6: Just oh my god, Premier League. Get to mention on countdown?

1244
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 6: I did not put that on the Bengal cart today.

1245
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 4: Well, I've been following the I.

1246
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 3: P L for a very long time, sham, so I'm

1247
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 3: so glad to have one of my own here.

1248
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: What do you think about No, I'm kidding, I have

1249
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 4: no idea.

1250
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 3: What are you going to I'll throw.

1251
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 8: This at you miss the BENMGM trading room. We're bet

1252
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 8: on anything to get our hands on here. A lot

1253
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 8: of early mornings in the office here in Jersey City,

1254
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 8: no doubt.

1255
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: How about both home dogs, right, we're talking about the

1256
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: Nix plus five and a half the Warriors at home

1257
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: also five and a half? Which home dog do you

1258
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 1: think is better value in this spot?

1259
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Speaker 8: Good question, and there's no there's no curry. You've got it.

1260
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 8: It have to be the next In my opinion, I

1261
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 8: think the Garden is going to be going absolutely listic today.

1262
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 8: I know, to getting price is high, but no matter

1263
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 8: how high the prices, the real fans still show out

1264
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 8: there in the garden. It's going to be a crazy atmosphere.

1265
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 8: And I mean, you know a lot of people are

1266
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 8: saying obviously the Celtics have not you know, shot very

1267
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 8: well at all. But you know, neither of the Knicks.

1268
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 8: Like the knicks ceiling on offense is a lot higher

1269
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 8: than what they've shown in the first two games. In

1270
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 8: my opinion, so I still think there's another level the

1271
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 8: Knicks can reach on offense and with the Warriors and

1272
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 8: no Curry, I think you'd have to be more leaning

1273
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 8: towards the Knicks for an upset.

1274
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Speaker 5: Today, Seamous, You're gonna get me stirred up here with.

1275
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Speaker 8: The took place with this team.

1276
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 3: I've been trying my hardest to convince Brian and Jared that.

1277
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Speaker 5: And I'm a Knicks fan, and I still can't.

1278
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 4: I know, well, you sound like a Knicks map.

1279
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Speaker 7: I know.

1280
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 6: I think I've been scarred too many times by this team.

1281
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 6: Really was that Hawks playoffs series a few years ago

1282
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 6: when they finally made it back to the playoffs and

1283
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 6: then you know, Trey Young came in and just.

1284
01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 5: Wiped the floor with them.

1285
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 6: All right, speaking of getting the floor wiped with, we

1286
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 6: saw okay See bounce back in a big way in

1287
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 6: Game two. But last night Denver, you know, I don't

1288
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 6: want to say coaching doesn't matter, but obviously having Nicola

1289
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 6: jokicic matters a lot more than having your head coach

1290
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 6: Michael Malone.

1291
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 5: Is Denver just.

1292
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 6: More pois like better playoff ready than Okay See? Or

1293
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 6: do we think the Thunder still have some fight left

1294
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 6: in him?

1295
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 8: I mean it's certainly looking like that right now. The

1296
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 8: Thunder definitely do. I mean, they won sixty eight games

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Speaker 8: for a reason this year. The Junkets, though, I mean,

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01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 8: they're getting some pretty big performance guy like Aaron Gordon,

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Speaker 8: who hasn't really been like this prolific of a jump

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01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 8: shooter his all career, and he's like forty five percent

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 8: right now from three. I mean, they're getting a lot

1302
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 8: of really key guys to start stepping up. It's gonna

1303
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 8: be a real test of adversity here for the Thunder,

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 8: because you have they breezed through that opening series really easily.

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 8: Now they're getting touched in the face a little bit here,

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01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 8: so we'll see how they respond.

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Speaker 3: I haven't looked at to say you truth, so I

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 3: don't know, really quick, Brian, really great, I want to

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01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: see you.

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01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 4: I haven't looked at the future, so I don't.

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 3: Know what what what their odds are to win the East.

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01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 4: But if the Celtics drop.

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: Three games to none to the New York Knicks, where

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Speaker 3: do you handicap the future in the East? Do you

1315
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: think do you think there's another team? Is it the

1316
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 3: Knicks or is it somebody else that has real chance

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01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: of representing the East in the championship game or are

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 3: we still coordinating the Celtics even if they drop down

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01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 3: into a three to zero hole, Well, I.

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Speaker 8: Still think the Calves still had That was a huge

1321
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 8: win for the Calves last night if they show you

1322
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 8: what they can do fully healthy against the Pacers. So

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Speaker 8: I think it's something on three to oho you almost

1324
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 8: have to put the Calves as as a very slight

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Speaker 8: favorite and probably just in front of the Knicks just

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Speaker 8: a three to er league. No one's ever come back

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01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 8: from that. I've had the worst day of my life

1328
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 8: was walking to school after the Yankees blew with three

1329
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 8: ll leader in the Red Sox. I don't know how

1330
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 8: I would behave as an adult if the Knicks did

1331
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 8: that to another, to the Celtics, I don't know what

1332
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 8: I would do.

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01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 5: But if.

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01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 8: Nix would be the second favorite behind the.

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Speaker 1: Caps, Okay, all right, Samus s. What is the same

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01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: as special?

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01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1338
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: If it just sounds like orange and blue Skies something

1339
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1340
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: I did Knicks win by twenty five? What is it today?

1341
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 4: I'm sure.

1342
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 8: I've been a Knicks man my entire life. Never in

1343
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 8: my life when I put my bed of the day

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01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 8: on the New York Nicky yeah, but the uh you know.

1345
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 8: First off, real quick, I do want to wish a

1346
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 8: happy thirtieth birthday to my best friends Kegan and Kinlin

1347
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 8: here in Hoboken, New Jersey. Happy birthday to them. And

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01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 8: for the pick of the day, we're going to the

1349
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 8: Diamond today. We'll going with a J. Smith shawver over

1350
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 8: four and a half k's against the Pittsburgh Pirates about

1351
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 8: minus one forty. I think this is good up to

1352
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 8: about minus one sixty why one sixty five?

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Speaker 1: I love it all right, perfect, The more random the better, Seamous,

1354
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: we love it, man appreciately here. That's right. I always do, man,

1355
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: I always.

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01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 2: I always love talking to you.

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: Hope you have a great day. Aside from a Knicks win,

1359
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm not hoping for.

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01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 8: That, come on, man, no more.

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01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, same, But aside from that, I hope you have

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01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: a fantastic day. Seamous, We'll catch you next week, buddy.

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01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 4: Thanks.

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01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 8: Guys, have a good one.

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 4: Good stuff though.

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Speaker 1: There he is you too, Seamous McGee, team lead of

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Speaker 1: sports trading at bed MGM. Okay, I hate to be

1368
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: so anti Knicks here, but like I'm pro truth, I'm

1369
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: not anti Knicks. The distinction. I would like to make

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01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: I am pro truth, not anti Nicks, Like I'm not

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01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: gonna give him credit for this swarming defense when they're

1372
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: allowing wide open threes. I'm not giving them credit for that.

1373
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 2: Sorry.

1374
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: And the basketball fan in me, I would like to

1375
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: see a series. It's not that I want to see

1376
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: the Knicks crash and burn. I want to see a series.

1377
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: So that means the Celtics winning today. And one thing

1378
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: I'll say this does sound anti Knicks. It's really not

1379
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: something that Seamus said where the Garden will be rocking.

1380
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: There's no doubt it will. And for anybody who says

1381
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: the NBA is better when the Knicks are good, is

1382
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 1: absolutely right.

1383
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 2: It's so much better.

1384
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: Like the electricity, the chance of defense. It cannot be mimicked.

1385
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: And it's something Steph Curry said earlier this year. He

1386
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: was like, it always delivers. The atmosphere is second to none.

1387
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: It is like, it's not hyperbole, it's awesome for the

1388
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: NBA when the Knicks are good. You can't recreate that atmosphere.

1389
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: But I will say this, and this is the potential

1390
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: anti Knicks thing that could be misinterpreted. That atmosphere is

1391
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: oftentimes a benefit to.

1392
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: The road team.

1393
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: Yep, we're acting like, oh, this is great for the

1394
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 1: Knicks home court advantage. Like, really stop and think about this.

1395
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 1: How many performances have we seen from top basketball players

1396
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: throughout the years at the Garden, Like we see Lebron

1397
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: routinely go ballistic in the Garden. We saw Jordan do

1398
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: that time and time and time again, legendary playoff moments,

1399
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: the double Nickel game. The list goes on and on.

1400
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: Steph Curry right, Like Steph Curry he broke the three

1401
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: point record in the Garden, right, yep, Like he loved

1402
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: that atmosphere and routinely had great games. So I just

1403
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: don't want this idea of that electric atmosphere is automatically

1404
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: a benefit to the Knicks. It's not always like that.

1405
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: Like sometimes and you could attest to this rich Sometimes

1406
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: that atmosphere, like that raucous home atmosphere, that can actually

1407
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: be good, believe it or not for the road team,

1408
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: And we've seen that time and time again against the Knicks.

1409
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 3: I grew up a train ride away from Adams in

1410
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 3: Square Garden. It was the first the sight of my

1411
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 3: first ever pro basketball game that I ever took in.

1412
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 3: It is, as advertised, an electric environment and postseason basketball

1413
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 3: to your point, much to the chagrin of New Yorkers

1414
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 3: and New York fans, has seen some of the most

1415
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: incredible performance of performances ever delivered by opposing superstars.

1416
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 4: It has been it has been a haul of.

1417
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 3: Horrors at times for Knicks fans. And then I'll again,

1418
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 3: I hate to lend credence to your point, but I

1419
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:42,719
Speaker 3: will echo your sentiment and add to it because there's

1420
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 3: also an aspect of okay, So check this out. The

1421
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: cheapest ticket at Madison Square Garden for this game. I

1422
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 3: believe it has already been bought out, but it was

1423
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 3: like eight hundred dollars for the cheapest ticket available. This

1424
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: was as of yesterday morning. The crazy thing about those

1425
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 3: kind of numbers is not all those fans are that

1426
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: died in the wool Knicks fans who have been there

1427
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 3: all season long. These are corporate buyups where all of

1428
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 3: a sudden, you got a client in town from Iowa

1429
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 3: who you really want to impress because he's been meeting

1430
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 3: with your Wall Street firm. We're sending him to see

1431
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 3: Nick Celtics Game three tonight. He doesn't have a dog

1432
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: in the fight. He's just there to see exciting playoff basketball.

1433
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 3: So sometimes in a crowd in a city, like you

1434
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: know the Knicks crowd in that city, it's a melting

1435
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 3: pot where you don't know who's rooting for who, and

1436
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 3: how many of those types of fans are in those seats.

1437
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 3: Is it thousands? The answer is probably. And that can

1438
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 3: really turn when an opponent comes onto your home court

1439
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 3: and starts playing out of his mind, because I've seen

1440
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 3: that before too, where it feels like it's almost like

1441
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 3: a bowl game instead of a home crowd.

1442
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the crowd turn quick. That's the thing that's

1443
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 6: just me. That first quarter is gonna be huge. If

1444
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 6: the Celtics come in, hit a bunch of threes and

1445
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 6: they're up fifteen, twenty points at halftime, all of a sudden,

1446
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 6: that crowd gets restless. We just saw this with the Knicks,

1447
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 6: like in two games of the Piston series, they lost

1448
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 6: two out of the three games at home and against

1449
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 6: the Pistons.

1450
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 5: Against the Pistons, they couldn't protect the guard.

1451
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 6: In the playoffs, so I and I know they went

1452
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 6: on the road and won three, which is awesome.

1453
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what you want to do. But also

1454
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 5: that's the Detroit Pistons. So man, I I just I

1455
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 5: want to get there so bad. But I've know you

1456
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,440
Speaker 5: do this story before.

1457
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 6: It is Jason, I'd tell them left right and center.

1458
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 6: Today I think.

1459
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: It's it sounds like Rich is the devil on your shoulder, Like,

1460
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: come on, man, feel the flow here the Knicks, let's

1461
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: go your heartbeat. Oh this is it, you know. But

1462
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll give the Knicks credit here

1463
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: for something that you pointed out.

1464
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 5: Rich.

1465
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: Normally those kind of prices will price out the just

1466
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: die hard. You know, we're just like they're spit or

1467
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: frothing at the mouth, you know, like living and dying

1468
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: with the Knicks. It's a little bit like the Warriors.

1469
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 1: I'll talk trash about the Warriors to give props to

1470
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: the Knicks here. Remember when the Warriors had a closeout

1471
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: game at home, Game six against Houston, and Doris Burke

1472
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: is on the call and she's like, it's silent in here.

1473
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: That would never have happened in the previous place in Oakliff,

1474
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 1: no chance, no chance. But now it's a little more corporate,

1475
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: Little bougie, we're at the Chase Center. We're pricing out

1476
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: some of our rabid fan base. I'll give the Knicks

1477
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: fans credit. Man, you just pointed out the prices, Rich

1478
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: those are some high dollars. It's not like you're gonna

1479
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: be like, Man, that's pretty much a corporate crowd. It's

1480
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 1: not gonna resemble a corporate crowd at all. I swear

1481
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: there's like an entrance entrance exam where even if you

1482
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: fork out the eight hundred bucks, it's like, all right,

1483
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: deep passed the test, yelled Nick at the top of

1484
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: your lungs, like you're screaming Slayer right now. No, you

1485
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: don't pass until you're out. Get out, Get out of here.

1486
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: We don't want you like that's what it feels like. Man,

1487
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: that atmosphere is unbelievable. Can't wait for it, Man, can't wait?

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Speaker 1: and so much more. All right, let's do this.

1508
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 7: Prop it up player plays?

1509
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: All right, Jared, we start with you. What's something that

1510
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: you like?

1511
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 6: Well, I'm on the Jason Datum bandwagon today. I think

1512
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 6: I was just figuring out the best way to play it.

1513
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,759
Speaker 6: Here's how I'm gonna play it. So his prop total

1514
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 6: on the point side is twenty seven and a half

1515
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 6: juice to the over. His rebounding prop is ten and

1516
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 6: a half, pretty much flat on both sides, a little

1517
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 6: slight juice to the under. I actually think both bets

1518
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 6: are relatively good individually. But the beauty of BETMGM is

1519
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 6: I could kind of buy a half a rebound, I

1520
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 6: could buy a bucket, and then I could smush them

1521
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 6: together and create a parlay.

1522
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 5: So that's what we're gonna do.

1523
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 6: We're gonna create a Jason Tatum SGP. We're gonna go

1524
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 6: twenty five plus points, So we're buying basically two and

1525
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,839
Speaker 6: a half points and we're gonna go ten plus rebounds,

1526
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 6: and we're gonna smush that together. And because it's very

1527
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 6: correlated to the Celtics winning the game, we're gonna throw

1528
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 6: Boston on the money line as well on top of it,

1529
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 6: plus one ninety five for that SGP again, Tatum twenty

1530
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 6: five points, ten rebound, Celtics win plus one nine to five.

1531
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: Mayo or no.

1532
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 5: May May Okay, for the love.

1533
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 3: Of Godo, nobody wants Mayo. Trust me, I'll take I'll

1534
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 3: take Tatum on rebounds. That's the same same part of

1535
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 3: that part of Jared's parlay is uh, Jason Tatum over

1536
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 3: ten or ten and a half depending on what book

1537
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 3: you look at. His His shooting has been called twenty

1538
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 3: eight plus percent from the field over his first two

1539
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 3: games in this series.

1540
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 4: Not great.

1541
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 3: However, he's been doing well on the boards, pulling down

1542
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 3: thirty over these two games here, So I think he'll

1543
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 3: sail past the ten rebound mark. Give me Jason Tatum

1544
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 3: for over ten or ten and a half rebounds in

1545
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 3: this game three against the Knicks.

1546
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: I'll give you a Tatum play just to be cool

1547
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: like you guys, and now I'll go down to Tatum.

1548
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: But one that's routinely cashing and it's hit in two

1549
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: straight games in this series. Is Tatum over rebounds and assists.

1550
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 1: He's been a rebounding machine and I don't look for

1551
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: that to change here. So I like what you guys

1552
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: are thinking in terms of boards. So over sixteen and

1553
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: a half, you know, he's like giving you the same

1554
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: amount of rebounds as cat As Karl Anthony Towns. You know,

1555
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,879
Speaker 1: they both have thirty rebounds so far in this series.

1556
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: So I think he's going to do his thing on

1557
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,959
Speaker 1: the glass and he's good for a handful of assists

1558
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: as well. This is this is a prop you know

1559
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: the rebounds and assists for Tatum that consistently goes over.

1560
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: So I like that one.

1561
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a Tatum play, I'll give you

1562
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: another one tomorrow. I got my eye on Aaron Neismith

1563
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: of the Pacers. So he struggled last yesterday in what

1564
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: game three? But game four could be a different animal.

1565
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 1: So Aaron Neismith, he's gone over his points prop in

1566
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: six of the eight playoff games this year. He's routinely

1567
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: going over. So this is a good zigzag spot if

1568
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: you believe in that approach where he was down last

1569
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 1: game only seven points. I like over in this next

1570
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: game because let's be honest, Cleveland's not playing lockdown defense, right,

1571
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: They're just defensively challenged at times. I do like what

1572
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 1: they do in the paint, but they allow a lot

1573
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 1: of open looks, so I look for Nie Smith to

1574
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: get some open looks. And also territorial about your playing

1575
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: time got cut into by Mathren in the fourth quarter

1576
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: before garbage time, so I think he brings it coming

1577
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 1: up next. Do these teams have inflated credentials?

1578
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 4: Oh?

1579
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 5: What is going on?

1580
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: I hope your Saturday is off to a fantastic start.

1581
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 1: And we just contribute to it in a major way

1582
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 1: this final hour. Hey, shortly after the show, our podcast

1583
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,679
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1584
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,960
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1585
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,720
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1586
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,360
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1587
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,439
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1588
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: the show posted right after we get off the air.

1589
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 2: So some breaking news.

1590
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 1: How about Saints' former quarterback Derek Carr calling it a career,

1591
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: had this major shoulder injury and now he's walking away

1592
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: from football. And you know, I was thinking of what

1593
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:49,640
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is. I think he's the nickelback of NFL quarterbacks,

1594
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, like everybody just loves to dump on this guy.

1595
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: And this is one of the Uh, this is a

1596
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: take that will never be understood or supported, you know

1597
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I think it's the truth with

1598
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. The funny thing is if you look at

1599
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:12,759
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, his career passer rating is ninety two point eight. Okay,

1600
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: ninety two point eight just for context, If you look

1601
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: at the league average passer rating last season in the NFL,

1602
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: it was ninety two point three, So I mean, like,

1603
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: essentially this changes from year to year, but just in general,

1604
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: Derek Carr over eleven years played average football, like the

1605
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: definition of average football. And the take that never computes

1606
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: and is never supported is that Derek Carr was better

1607
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: than he was ever given credit for. You know, like

1608
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: people are just like, what does that even mean? So

1609
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 1: you're saying he's great.

1610
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: Like no, no, no, he's.

1611
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: Just better than I don't know, there's got to be

1612
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: some sort of comparison, Like I don't know, there's a

1613
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 1: food that everybody talks about and you're like, it's actually

1614
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: a little bit better than its reputation.

1615
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: Like I think that's Derek Carr.

1616
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: And I guess the pushback or the reaction could be, well,

1617
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: what does that really mean? Nothing? Really, you know, he's

1618
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: just he's a little bit better than he's ever given

1619
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: credit for. But at the end of the day, he

1620
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: was still the definition of average. I hate that he

1621
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: had the shoulder injury and he walks away prematurely. He

1622
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: had the you know, it's almost like a what could

1623
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: have been career where he had the the MVP caliber

1624
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: season with the Raiders and he broke his leg remember that.

1625
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: I think it was against the Colts, and it's just

1626
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: it's broke. It's broke, it's broke. Yeah, man, look at

1627
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 1: Alex ty shirt you talk about that was an impressive

1628
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: on the ones and twos right there. Look at that.

1629
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: Let's let's test him again. I'm looking for what's the

1630
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: man in finance for anything with anything with the movie

1631
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: Training Day, Denzel, Ethan Hawk, anything, Shan. It's actually Alex

1632
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: sometimes use myself.

1633
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 3: That's awesome, that's even better, right, Crazy thing is this

1634
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 3: is like the movie inception now because that is a

1635
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,480
Speaker 3: pre recorded drop of Alex Tischer.

1636
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 5: Doing Denzel and Training Day.

1637
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 4: Incredible right there.

1638
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: What do you think though, Rich, what's your first reaction

1639
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,480
Speaker 1: to Derek Carr calling it a career.

1640
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 4: Man?

1641
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: Okay, first and foremost, you know, to sort of spell

1642
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 3: it out. This is a objective decision between himself and

1643
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 3: the medical staff and his representation, you know.

1644
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 4: So the Saints are on board with this.

1645
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 3: This is they looked at his shoulder after they picked

1646
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:56,759
Speaker 3: up the volume, him throwing the football for the first

1647
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 3: time in earnest since his last surgery, and he structural

1648
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 3: issues with his shoulder that they're not sure can be

1649
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 3: resolved and would have major impacts on the twenty twenty

1650
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 3: five season. So the first thing I'll say is this

1651
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 3: is the right decision. When you are constantly injured, and

1652
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 3: you are constantly getting surgeries, and you're constantly recovering from surgeries,

1653
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 3: it is exhausting. And as much as you love the sport,

1654
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 3: and I know Derek Carr loves this sport, it drags

1655
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 3: you into a pretty dark place sometimes where you feel

1656
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 3: useless because you feel like the only thing you're good

1657
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 3: for is playing the sport you love and then damaging

1658
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 3: yourself playing that sport you love, and then putting the

1659
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: pieces back together, and you have no time for family,

1660
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 3: You have no time to.

1661
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 4: Like to escape.

1662
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 3: Your life is just committed to either playing the sport

1663
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 3: or recovering from the brutality of the resport. And it

1664
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 3: is a vicious cycle. It's one that I was trapped in.

1665
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 3: And by the way, no complaints. I love the fact

1666
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: that I was able to play football at the highest level,

1667
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 3: But for virtually my entirety of my six year NFL career,

1668
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 3: I was either damaging my body to the point where

1669
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 3: I needed surgery or recovering from a surgery, or a

1670
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,840
Speaker 3: major injury every single offseason.

1671
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 4: That's just how my career went.

1672
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 3: My body held up until I was twenty two years old,

1673
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 3: and then the wheels started falling off. Derek Carr has

1674
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 3: had a better run than that, but these past handful

1675
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 3: of years have been marred by.

1676
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 4: Injury after injury after injury.

1677
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 3: So it's good timing and it's a good decision now

1678
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 3: in terms of what it means for the Saints, Well,

1679
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 3: it's showtime, Tyler's shower.

1680
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 1: It's Tyler shut.

1681
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's the shut show down there in New Orleans.

1682
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 3: It's uh, look, I don't think when they drafted him

1683
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 3: they were thinking they were going to be handing the

1684
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 3: keys to the family car as quick as it's going

1685
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 3: to be now. I'm fairly certainly to do what you

1686
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 3: did there the car, uh huh, fairly certain that they

1687
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 3: they figured they would have a more reliable driver in

1688
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: the captain's chair for a little while longer. So we'll

1689
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,799
Speaker 3: we'll see how he performs with a shortened on ramp

1690
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 3: keeping the puns fallowing here.

1691
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 4: But we'll see, we'll we'll see, we'll see what happens.

1692
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 3: I I think I think it's it's probably too much

1693
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 3: too quick. But but again that division there there are

1694
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 3: there are a couple of really talented quarterbacks. But it's

1695
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,839
Speaker 3: you can compete in the NFC South, There's no question.

1696
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 3: You just have to put together something, you know what

1697
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 3: I mean, to be competitive in the NFC South, because

1698
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 3: you're going against the likes of Carolina and we know

1699
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 3: that the Buccaneers are the best of the bunch. But

1700
01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 3: put together something and you might be able to squeak

1701
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 3: out some wins in the vision and who knows, who knows.

1702
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's a great thing for the

1703
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints. I think it expedites a couple of

1704
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 3: timelines that they had further down the road.

1705
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'll push the Saints angle of it

1706
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,719
Speaker 6: to the side for a minute. I'll start by saying

1707
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 6: I wish Derek and his family the best.

1708
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 8: I know.

1709
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 6: He is a man of faith. I'm sure this was

1710
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 6: not an easy decision, and I hope that he recovers

1711
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 6: fully from his injury. Now let's get into the nuts and.

1712
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 5: Bolts of this.

1713
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 6: This might sound crazy. I don't think Derek Carr is

1714
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,640
Speaker 6: going to stay retired forever. Well, I think part of

1715
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 6: this move, I think Derek knows he's not going to

1716
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 6: have a productive season based off of his injury this year,

1717
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 6: and I think the Saints know that as well. You

1718
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 6: look at his contract situation and you think to yourself, Man,

1719
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 6: if New Orleans could just get out from under this

1720
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 6: thirty million dollar hit that he's owed this year and

1721
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 6: it's a seventy million dollar cap hit over the next

1722
01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 6: two years, it turns New Orleans into a much more

1723
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 6: attractive situation to be able to manage the cap. The

1724
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 6: only way that they can get out from under that

1725
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 6: is if Carr retires.

1726
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:09,120
Speaker 4: Now.

1727
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 6: By retiring, he also might forego the roster bonus and

1728
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 6: the signing bonus. But Ian Rappaport tweeted thirty minutes ago

1729
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 6: that car is going to keep that roster bonus, a

1730
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 6: ten million dollar roster bonus. The Saints won't seek reimbursement,

1731
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 6: and by retiring, he foregoes that thirty million dollar guaranteed

1732
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 6: hit this season, which means the Saints are about to

1733
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 6: save a boatload of money.

1734
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 5: Derek Carr's thirty four years old.

1735
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 6: I find it hard to believe that he has done

1736
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,520
Speaker 6: playing football forever. I feel like this is a situation

1737
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 6: where both sides benefit from him. Quote unquote, I'm doing

1738
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 6: the air quotes for the radio audience, retiring, wiping the

1739
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 6: slate clean. He's obviously not worth seventy million over the

1740
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 6: next two years, garantaranteed. Now you wipe this late clean,

1741
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 6: you give him a ten million dollar roster bonus for

1742
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 6: his troubles, and then Derek Carr can recover naturally from

1743
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 6: his shoulder injury, maybe not have surgery, and then come

1744
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 6: back h thirty five thirty six and be able to

1745
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 6: sign with whoever he wants at whatever price is deemed fair.

1746
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 6: I know that sounds crazy, but this feels more like

1747
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 6: a money transaction than a life transaction.

1748
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 5: You know.

1749
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this where it's just funny the reaction,

1750
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: how it differs from quarterback to quarterback. Where if you

1751
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: think about a guy like Geno Smith, I'm just looking

1752
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:42,120
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks from last season, who's passer rating last year

1753
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: is comparable to Derek Carr's career passer rating. Okay, just

1754
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: as an entry point, just as okay, let's get in

1755
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: the ballpark of production.

1756
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: Take a guy like Geno Smith.

1757
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: So Geno Smith's passer rating last year was ninety three

1758
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: point two it's just, you know, a little bit above

1759
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: league average. But the general vibe when it comes to

1760
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: Geno Smith is so much more positive than the general

1761
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: vibe for Derek Carr, you know. And it's just funny

1762
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: to me. Where Geno Smith the second round pick, right,

1763
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: just like Derek Carr did nothing for the Jets, it

1764
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 1: was awful, six seasons not starting, then goes to Seattle,

1765
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: revives his career. Maybe it's the comeback story, but we're like, Geno,

1766
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: let's go all right, this is beautiful. They wrote me off,

1767
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: but I didn't write back, you know, and we're like,

1768
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: what a line this? Put that on a T shirt.

1769
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,880
Speaker 1: We're loving the Geno Smith thing and Derek Carr no love.

1770
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: It's just funny how that differs so much. I know,

1771
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: bo Nicks was just a rookie and you have to

1772
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: take that into account. But bo Nicks had a successful

1773
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: rookie season last year, and his passer rating ninety three

1774
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: point three, that's in the neighborhood of what Derek Carr

1775
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: did for eleven seasons on average, right, Like, do you

1776
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: think if the Broncos had ten more years of what

1777
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 1: bo Nicks did last season, would they be pleased? With that,

1778
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, they would, And it's just funny that

1779
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: no one says a halfway positive thing about Derek Carr, like, yeah,

1780
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: he could have been a whole lot better, and I

1781
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: think a lot of his career is what could have been.

1782
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: But it's like we act like the dude did absolutely nothing,

1783
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Like remember the Raider fans booing him and throwing stuff

1784
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: at him in his final game with the Raiders.

1785
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 2: It's like, what is happening right now?

1786
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: I just I'm trying to wrap my mind around why

1787
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: Derek Carr was so disliked and just the assessment of

1788
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,640
Speaker 1: him was, I think, far worse than the reality.

1789
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: I don't quite understand why.

1790
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: It's not like he came into the league a top

1791
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: five pick and we're always looking at what he should

1792
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: be and what he should have accomplished in this.

1793
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 2: He's the second round pick.

1794
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: He didn't walk in with these huge expectations because he

1795
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: wanted now national title with a powerhouse program or something,

1796
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We act like those were

1797
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:08,600
Speaker 1: the expectations, and that makes sense why our reaction is

1798
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:10,919
Speaker 1: the way it is, But that's not what happened.

1799
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know why the reaction is what it is.

1800
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to grab the wheel and turn it toward

1801
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 3: a different set of circumstances that I don't think many

1802
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 3: people's brains are turning to yet, because this is breaking

1803
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 3: news that Derek Carr has retired from the NFL. But

1804
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's making a lot more sense

1805
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,440
Speaker 3: to me that Aaron Rodgers hasn't signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1806
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 6: Hmm.

1807
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 3: Like the fact the fact that this has been discussed

1808
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 3: between Derek Carr's representation and the New Orleans Saints for

1809
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure weeks now, if not longer, And the fact

1810
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 3: that Aaron Rodgers went unsigned all the way through the

1811
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 3: NFL Draft and now hereafter, and the Steelers have made

1812
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 3: some trades and maybe, like, for example, the George Pickens trade,

1813
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 3: doesn't make all that much sense when you think about

1814
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 3: feathering the bed or fluffing the pillows for Aaron Rodgers,

1815
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 3: But it does now because if the ship sailed on Rogers,

1816
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 3: because the Steelers know that that that Rogers representation are

1817
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,600
Speaker 3: in deep talks with the Saints, and there's a potentiality

1818
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 3: that the Saints will have room in their in their

1819
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 3: quarterback room for Aaron to sign with them, and money

1820
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 3: to spend on Aaron Rodgers and potentially more than the

1821
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers are willing to offer him. I'm just saying

1822
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:41,520
Speaker 3: that the dominoes are starting to line up where Rogers

1823
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 3: playing for the Saints makes a lot of sense to me.

1824
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,839
Speaker 1: How about this, though, Rich, You know, if that's true,

1825
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers would have to know that. You know, it's

1826
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 1: cooling down in terms of Rogers being a Steeler? Why

1827
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: are they rocking Mason Rudolph and a sixth round Will

1828
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: Howard right now? Why is that the depth chart?

1829
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 3: Well, this could be information. You only can operate with

1830
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:07,320
Speaker 3: the information you have. So I mean, as we know

1831
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 3: OTAs and official like your official capacity with your team

1832
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 3: really starts for the veterans after the draft, So all

1833
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 3: of that information with could have, or i should say,

1834
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,440
Speaker 3: with the Saints could have started tumbling out after the draft.

1835
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 4: Like, hey, yeah, it's a good thing.

1836
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 3: The Saints drafted a quarterback in round two and it's

1837
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 3: a good thing.

1838
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 4: Well, good thing.

1839
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 3: It's because they knew you know, it's because they had

1840
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 3: some inkling and then the more they invested in, you know,

1841
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 3: kicking the tires on Derek Carr and maybe there was

1842
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,799
Speaker 3: some waffling going on the more the phone started ringing

1843
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 3: to I'm sure the available free agent quarterbacks, and there's

1844
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 3: really only one that can step into a situation at

1845
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,120
Speaker 3: this point and booie.

1846
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 4: Your roster, and that's Aaron Rodgers. So I don't know.

1847
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 3: It just sort of lines up too perfectly for me

1848
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 3: not to mention it at this juncture. I know it

1849
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 3: sort of feels like we're in a rush, throwing dirt

1850
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 3: on the casket of Derek Carr's career and moving on

1851
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: to Aaron Rodgers.

1852
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 4: But it's the fact is this.

1853
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 3: The ball continues to roll like the Saints now are

1854
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,759
Speaker 3: in hurry up and get better mode after they've lost

1855
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 3: their starting quarterback for the twenty twenty five season.

1856
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 6: Well, it's a market moving thing, right Like I think

1857
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 6: now that Carr retires, I think it turns New Orleans

1858
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 6: into like the worst team in the NFL in terms

1859
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 6: of probably their win total.

1860
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 5: It'll probably bump that down.

1861
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:40,799
Speaker 6: But then it also sets up a potential insane buying

1862
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 6: opportunity if Aaron Rodgers does end up signing with the Saints.

1863
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 6: I have no knowledge or information if that is going

1864
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 6: to happen. I will say this though there was zero

1865
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 6: chance it was going to happen unless Derek Carr retired

1866
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 6: and forfeited his thirty million dollar guaranteed salary this year. Right,

1867
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 6: I know there's rules in the NFL salary I don't

1868
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 6: even know what it's called these days, where if you retire,

1869
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 6: you give up the money. Where if you just are

1870
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 6: sitting out injured, Like that's the part about this retirement

1871
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 6: that doesn't make sense. And I'm not saying that it's

1872
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 6: like this scheme or this plot, but what if you're

1873
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 6: Derek Carr, why would you retire and give up that Bundy?

1874
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 6: Like it just doesn't make sense unless you have some

1875
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 6: kind of under the table deal with New Orleans.

1876
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 5: It says, we'll give.

1877
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 6: You your roster bonus, we'll give you this little severance package,

1878
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 6: but if you retire, you are saving us a boatload

1879
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 6: of money over the next two years, and then we

1880
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 6: get to go out and sign Aaron Rodgers because now

1881
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 6: we have thirty million to play with. Like that's why

1882
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 6: a the timing of this be the retirement vibe at

1883
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 6: thirty four, Like, and I know he's banged up, but

1884
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 6: I just I don't get this vibe that he's gone

1885
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,480
Speaker 6: and done forever, Like I think this is a transaction

1886
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 6: to get his salary off the books and now New

1887
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 6: Orleans can move forward as a franchise. That's that's just

1888
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 6: my initial gut reaction. I'm wrong a lot.

1889
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 5: That's just how I feel about this situation.

1890
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 1: You're right a lot too, though.

1891
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 5: I am right a lot.

1892
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 6: But you know, I'm talking about someone's life here. I

1893
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 6: don't want to make it like it's this game of monopoly, right, No,

1894
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 6: that kind of is what it feels like.

1895
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 4: Dude.

1896
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 1: I'll say this like Derek Carr is not going to

1897
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: be a saint, Like this roster is not good enough

1898
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 1: for him to be like, oh yeah, let's let's go

1899
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 1: NFC South.

1900
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: Here we come.

1901
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, like they're not good enough. I appreciate

1902
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, Rich, and I do love the

1903
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: idea of connecting the dots. And I absolutely smell what

1904
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: you're cooking over there. I get how about this too?

1905
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,200
Speaker 6: Can I just can I say one more thing? If

1906
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,719
Speaker 6: you're Aaron Rodgers, would you rather play in the NFC

1907
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 6: South or the AFC North.

1908
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1909
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's a better path than the NFC South,

1910
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 1: But at some point. You just look at the limitations

1911
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: of the roster. It's obvious with the Saints, it's so

1912
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,599
Speaker 1: limited right there in terms of overall talent on a roster.

1913
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 1: So I just I can.

1914
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,799
Speaker 6: I don't think you're winning a super Bowl in either location.

1915
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 6: I think Aaron Rodgers just wants a soft landing.

1916
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows what the guy wants.

1917
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 6: It's crazy, man, I want to know as aahuasca in

1918
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 6: the jungles.

1919
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's what is it like the wine

1920
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:23,879
Speaker 1: appetite with the beer wallet.

1921
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:25,759
Speaker 2: I think that's what we're looking at.

1922
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 6: My mom say, beer beer bank roll on a champagne

1923
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 6: taste on a beer bankroll.

1924
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, yeah, it's like he wants a

1925
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: wine roster and we're looking at beer right here.

1926
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,719
Speaker 5: Man, we're looking but we're looking at beer.

1927
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 1: We're looking at Schlitz with the Saints, and we're looking

1928
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 1: at what's the Steelers. I don't know, like a BBR.

1929
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 2: Makes sense?

1930
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 5: Roll with that, all right?

1931
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,679
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Speaker 1: and so much more. I'm never gonna listen to Angel

1954
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Speaker 1: of Death the same way anymore, Alex, who's in for

1955
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 1: Chris today? He said, Alex, this is Derek Carr when

1956
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: he broke his leg, like the beginning of the Wow.

1957
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Speaker 1: I'll never hear that the.

1958
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: Same way again.

1959
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

1960
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 2: What a line right there, all right?

1961
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 1: So I was thinking about this, What is uh what

1962
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 1: does Will Ferrell say in Anchorman, I'm gonna throw something

1963
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,800
Speaker 1: out there, you don't like it, throw it right back.

1964
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: So Rich and Jared, this applies to you, guys. So

1965
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 1: I think that the last two champions in the NBA

1966
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 1: have a lot in common. If you look at the

1967
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets, they want it two years ago. And if

1968
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: you look at their path to a championship, not Murderer's row.

1969
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: If you look at the Celtics last season, not Murderer's

1970
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: row and root to a title. And I'm just throwing

1971
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: a theory out that maybe their credentials are a bit inflated. Okay,

1972
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're complete fools gold, but that's the

1973
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 1: main part of why they were so highly thought of

1974
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 1: going forward. You want a championship. You're officially knighted. You know,

1975
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:21,520
Speaker 1: we knight you. You're in the NBA, you know, fraternity.

1976
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: But if you look back, think about this with the

1977
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 1: the Nuggets. Okay, so we go back to when they

1978
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: won a title in the twenty twenty two to twenty

1979
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 1: three season. Okay, so their path to a title. They

1980
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: played Minnesota in a one versus eight matchup. Minnesota was

1981
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,679
Speaker 1: forty two and forty that season. Okay, so Denver moved

1982
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 1: right on. Gentlemen sweep. They beat Phoenix in six, they

1983
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: won the close out game by twenty five points. Look

1984
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: at what Phoenix is now, right KD. Booker and what

1985
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 1: you know? Then the Nuggets two years ago, they swept

1986
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 1: the Lakers because the Lakers were completely overmatched. And that's

1987
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: what the Lakers do. They fizzle out in the playoff

1988
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 1: and then in the finals it was a gentlemen's sweep

1989
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 1: for Denver against the eight seeded heat who ran out

1990
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:10,919
Speaker 1: of gas. So the Nuggets they faced both eight seeds

1991
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: Phoenix and swept the Lakers.

1992
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Speaker 4: That was it.

1993
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Speaker 1: That was their path to a title. Not short changing them,

1994
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:19,800
Speaker 1: not saying they don't deserve to win, nothing like that.

1995
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Speaker 1: It's Okay, we're like, we put you on a pedestal

1996
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Speaker 1: because you won a championship, But should the pedestal be

1997
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: as high as we think it is based on the

1998
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: root right, the path to a title. Play the same

1999
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: game with the Celtics. Last season, gentlemen sweep against who

2000
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: the eight seeded heat right, like Heat love that eight seed.

2001
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: Then it was they got by the Calves in five,

2002
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: and the Calves they really went into supercharger mode this year. Right,

2003
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 1: they're sixteen wins better this season. They won forty eight

2004
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: games last year, so they didn't win fifty games. And

2005
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:04,200
Speaker 1: then the Celtics they beat the six seeded Pacers and

2006
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 1: then they beat the five seeded MAVs in five. So

2007
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Speaker 1: you face an eight seed, a six seed, a five seed,

2008
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 1: like a six seed in the Eastern Conference finals, five

2009
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: seed in the finals. Yeah, like that's not Murderer's row.

2010
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Speaker 1: So the question is did those teams have inflated credentials

2011
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 1: based on winning a title but not facing the stiffest competition.

2012
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Speaker 1: I say they do.

2013
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

2014
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Speaker 3: Here's here's the way I look at the NBA postseason,

2015
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 3: and it's a little bit different now because you don't

2016
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Speaker 3: have those legacy stocks anymore, because I'm going to compare

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01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 3: it to the stock market, Like typically you have those

2018
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 3: trustworthy legacy stocks in the NBA postseason, where there's enormous

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01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 3: superstars attached to some of these brands and they're well

2020
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 3: coached or not, but that doesn't really matter because you

2021
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 3: know they're consistent. You know that they're going to find

2022
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 3: their way to the finals or very at very least

2023
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Speaker 3: find their way to.

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Speaker 4: Their conference finals.

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Speaker 3: And that was like Lebron with the Cleveland Cavaliers, you know,

2026
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Speaker 3: recently with the Warriors, when it was Steph and it

2027
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Speaker 3: was Clay and it was Durant and it was Draymond.

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Speaker 3: Like those felt like legacy stocks. And then there are

2029
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 3: certain stocks where it's like, ooh, this is a weird riser,

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01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 3: we better buy low because Toronto just got Kawhi and

2031
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 3: that just throws a weird dynamic in here.

2032
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 4: And you know, are we gonna buy low on Raptor stock?

2033
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: I mean they look like they could be a contender

2035
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 3: and then you see what they do. But it doesn't

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01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,639
Speaker 3: feel like it feels like it's more of a pump

2037
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Speaker 3: and dump. It feels like those those feel more like

2038
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna get in you're gonna ride it, and then

2039
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 3: you're gonna get rid of the stock at its height

2040
01:44:55,040 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 3: because Kawhi leaves town, Canada becomes an afterthought basket boweyes

2041
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 3: for a little while, and everybody moves on with their life.

2042
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 3: But the unfortunate reality for the NBA, and maybe it's

2043
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 3: not unfortunate because playoff ratings have been pretty high this season,

2044
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 3: but the reality for the NBA is there's a lot

2045
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 3: more parody now, so it doesn't feel like there are

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01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 3: any of those legacy stocks. So I look at the Nuggets,

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01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 3: even though they've had recent success. I look at the Celtics,

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01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 3: even though they have recent success, and I don't look

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01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 3: at them like I looked at the Warriors when it

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01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,759
Speaker 3: was Dre and Clay and Steph and Durant. I don't

2051
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 3: look at either of those teams like I looked at

2052
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,720
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Cavaliers when Lebron the kid from Akron, was

2053
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 3: trying to make things happen. I look at them far

2054
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 3: or when Lebron was with the Heat. I look at

2055
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 3: them as beatable. And I'm not sure if it's because

2056
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing the forest before the trees, but I

2057
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 3: just don't trust Joki with this Denver Nuggets team the

2058
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,759
Speaker 3: same way I did Lebron with the Heat. I don't

2059
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 3: trust Katum with this bust in Celtics team the same

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01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 3: way I did Steph with those Warriors teams when they

2061
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 3: were popping off.

2062
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:05,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: There, there's definitely the parody in this in this season

2064
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 6: has been more pronounced in the playoffs, and I'm usually

2065
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:18,720
Speaker 6: I am usually a very anti NBA person, Like you

2066
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 6: won't hear me talk about too much.

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01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know, you know you are

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01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 5: the NBA, like you are the NBA.

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01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 6: Guru on this show, no doubt about it. It's not

2070
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,839
Speaker 6: a league that I feel like I have a grasp

2071
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 6: on from night to night.

2072
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 5: And it's not because I don't like watching it.

2073
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,799
Speaker 6: I love watching good basketball, especially college basketball.

2074
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 5: But I love watching good basketball.

2075
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 6: The reason I struggle with the NBA a lot of

2076
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:44,000
Speaker 6: it is just the timing of the season, right. It

2077
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,799
Speaker 6: starts during football. Football is my main focus. It ends

2078
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 6: usually in the summertime when people aren't paying that much

2079
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 6: attention to you know, pretty much anything besides hey, when's

2080
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:54,519
Speaker 6: football gonna start?

2081
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:56,799
Speaker 5: And then you get this like weird in between where.

2082
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 6: The regular season just has lost a lot of luster,

2083
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 6: but I have been very much on the bandwagon of

2084
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 6: this NBA postseason has been fantastic. I still think the

2085
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 6: NHL playoffs it's like a nose in front. But I

2086
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 6: honestly believe this NBA postseason has been really good because

2087
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 6: of your points that there isn't that usually in the NBA.

2088
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 6: It's we already know with the favorites, Let's just get

2089
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 6: Lebron and Steph Curry in the finals so we can

2090
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 6: end this thing and figure out who's gonna win.

2091
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 5: That's not the vibe this year.

2092
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 6: I honestly, of the eight teams remaining, I maybe can

2093
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,679
Speaker 6: make a case for all eight of them minus the Warriors,

2094
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 6: without Steph winning the title. I like, you can make

2095
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 6: a case I think for all eight of these teams.

2096
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 6: I think the Pacers is probably the biggest long shot

2097
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 6: of the bunch. But I still feel like because the

2098
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 6: East and what we've seen with Boston and the Pacers

2099
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 6: played Boston in the Eastern Conference finals last year, like

2100
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 6: I can make some kind of argument for all eight teams.

2101
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 6: I don't know if I could have ever done that

2102
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 6: in recent history with the NBA, And that's what make

2103
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 6: this year very exciting. I do think it's gonna end

2104
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 6: up being Boston in Okay. See, I still think it's

2105
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:10,799
Speaker 6: gonna be Boston. Okay, See, I honestly do until proven otherwise.

2106
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 6: I'm on the Boston train, maybe until they lose today.

2107
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 6: But yeah, the parody has definitely been the vibe of

2108
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,799
Speaker 6: this NBA postseasons, making it for very exciting games.

2109
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: Well, there's parody, but there's there are also differences as well.

2110
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. If if you could name

2111
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 1: your next opponent, like let's say, hey, Nix, right, you

2112
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: somehow win the second round series, or even the Celtics

2113
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 1: you win the same series, you can name your next opponent.

2114
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 1: Are you choosing Cleveland or are you choosing Indiana? You'd

2115
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 1: probably rather face Indiana.

2116
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:47,599
Speaker 4: Okay.

2117
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: Now, granted there's parody with what you explained, But the

2118
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Speaker 1: Cavs been a better team all season long. Okay, Like

2119
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: your odds of advancing to the finals are better against

2120
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Speaker 1: Indiana than they are against Cleveland. So yeah, while exists,

2121
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:06,679
Speaker 1: there are tiers right to the top teams, the lesser teams,

2122
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: so forth, and so on. Now there are surprises, but

2123
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 1: in terms of what's our best chance to move forward, like,

2124
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 1: there are preferences. And that's why I circle back to

2125
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Speaker 1: when the Nuggets won a title. Just the seeds they

2126
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 1: faced in Root to a Title. Okay, an eight seed,

2127
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Speaker 1: a four seed, a seven seed, and another eight seed.

2128
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Speaker 1: That's a very favorable path. Yeah, the path last year

2129
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: for the Celtics eight seed, four seed, six seed, five seed.

2130
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: Neither team faced a three seed or above. Not a three,

2131
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: not a two, not a what. None of them the

2132
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 1: last two champions faced the top three seed. So like

2133
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Speaker 1: in the Nuggets last year, they beat the Lakers in

2134
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 1: five because again that's what the Lakers do.

2135
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Speaker 2: They crash and burn.

2136
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Speaker 1: And then the next series they lost game seven at

2137
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: home to the Timberwolves. And at the time we're like, whoa,

2138
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: what just happened to the Nuggets? They lost game seven

2139
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: at home. They're defending champs. How could this be? It's like,

2140
01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 1: because they're not that good.

2141
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 2: It's like, that's the truth.

2142
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Speaker 1: They didn't have a gauntlet in Root to a Title,

2143
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,760
Speaker 1: and that's what their credentials are built on. They won

2144
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Speaker 1: a championship. So in our eyes we hear the Gregorian

2145
01:50:25,240 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: chant like oh when Jokic walks in, We're like, this

2146
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: team look at all their strengths, and they have obvious

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Speaker 1: flaws and weaknesses, but we overlook a lot of that

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Speaker 1: stuff because they were knighted and won championships. I'm just saying,

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01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 1: for the here and now, look at the path of

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Speaker 1: them when they when they were solidified and won a championship,

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01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't the toughest path to a title. Yeah, I

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01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: don't short change them for that title. But I'm gonna

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01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 1: look suspiciously at them going forward, like, is this legitimate

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01:50:58,360 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 1: twenty four?

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01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 2: Here at Gold? You know, we got some.

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01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: Get this gas is watered down over here?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 4: Is there some lead mixed into the goal? I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know it. Is there pirite? We'll see.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this though, I think the Thunder, and we

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01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 3: talked about this a little bit earlier talking about this series.

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01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:23,640
Speaker 3: Now Nuggets dvantage to one over the Thunder, but I

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01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 3: look at the Thunder as having some of what the

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01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:34,600
Speaker 3: Nuggets may be missing in terms of talent, and in

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Speaker 3: certain cases you maybe some of that youthful aggressiveness that

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Speaker 3: you're you're hoping to see out of a squad, a

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01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:46,320
Speaker 3: hungry squad. But then again, the Nuggets, you know, they

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01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,760
Speaker 3: finished them off and overtime in game three, you know,

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01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,680
Speaker 3: so having that experience matters too. And even if it

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01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 3: is maybe a schedule they ran through on their way

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01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 3: to a championship last time, they still lived that life.

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01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 3: They still advanced, They survived and advanced. And yeah, here's

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Speaker 3: the thing. Are the Nuggets potentially overrated?

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01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? Potentially?

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01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 3: And I think maybe a bell weather to the fact

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01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 3: that that is Jokic.

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Speaker 4: I don't think is.

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01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:19,720
Speaker 3: Playing or even acting characteristic in this series. I think

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01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 3: he's he's being forced to do too much. I look at,

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01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 3: for example, even Pregame, the fact that he showed up

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01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 3: to the arena wearing a joker outfit.

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01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 4: That's not his style.

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01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:36,679
Speaker 3: He's not fashion forward guy who was wearing a purple

2185
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 3: cumber bunt for crying out loud, you know, So.

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01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: He dressed his joker and played like the penguin last night.

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01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:47,160
Speaker 4: There you go.

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01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very curious to see how this series goes,

2189
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 3: because I do think I do think the Nuggets have

2190
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 3: been They've been taken out of their element a little bit,

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01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:00,040
Speaker 3: and I think djok is being spread too thin. And

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01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 3: I don't know, I think the Thunder have them probably

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01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 3: beat around a couple of different corners that Denver isn't

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01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 3: expecting and then throw on top of it what you

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01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 3: said to start the postseason, Brian, and maybe factoring you know,

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01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 3: they're a little bit leaderless because they made a decision

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01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 3: at coach at head coach down the home stretch of

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01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 3: the regular season.

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01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 6: What goes back to our argument about how meaningless coaches

2200
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 6: are in the NBA, right, I mean, get I don't know.

2201
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 6: I was kidding, They're not meaning But I do think

2202
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 6: like when you get to the playoffs, the best players

2203
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 6: tend to rise to the occasion. I think that's the

2204
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 6: part of this Oklahoma City Denver Nuggets series that is

2205
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:48,520
Speaker 6: the most unique. Like I think most people would agree

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01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 6: that in terms of their players, Like I know, Oklahoma

2207
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 6: City has had an unbelievableeason. I want to I don't

2208
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 6: want to think anything away from them, but SGA and

2209
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 6: Jalen Williams and Lou Dort Okay, Nikole Jkic, Jamal Murray,

2210
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 6: Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter Junior. Like I think the players

2211
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 6: just individually, I think it's a pretty even the match series.

2212
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 6: Like I think Jokic and SGA kind of cancel each

2213
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 6: other out, But who's the Jamal Murray on OKAC? Like

2214
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 6: it's Jalen Williams. And don't get me wrong, I love

2215
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 6: Jalen Williams. I bet his props like every game in

2216
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 6: the playoffs last year. But Jamal Murrays won a title,

2217
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 6: he has a nickname, like, he has this pedigree, and

2218
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 6: in the playoffs sometimes that experience matters a little bit

2219
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 6: more than the goodyear that you've had. And I do

2220
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 6: think the Nuggets maybe they're they have better players, and

2221
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 6: that's what we've seen through the first three games. They

2222
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,040
Speaker 6: went into OKAC, they stole game one, and they protected

2223
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 6: home court in Game three. I mean that game was

2224
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 6: a battle. I bet the under in that game and

2225
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 6: I thought, oh, this is a lock in the second half,

2226
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 6: and then it went to overtime and it still stayed

2227
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 6: under by like ten to fifteen points. That's how much

2228
01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:01,000
Speaker 6: of a grinder that game was last night. And you

2229
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 6: give credit to Denver. Denver gave up what one fifty

2230
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 6: two nights prior. They come back home and they give.

2231
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 5: Up one oh four in overtime.

2232
01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 6: Like I think this Nuggets team, I do think there

2233
01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 6: is a level of rising to the occasion that isn't

2234
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,400
Speaker 6: necessarily baked into the prices that we see every night.

2235
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 6: With Oklahoma City favorite on the road, something I get

2236
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 6: the vibe that Denver might just make a run here,

2237
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 6: and Denver, in a year where there's a lot of

2238
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:32,280
Speaker 6: parody in the NBA.

2239
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 5: Maybe Denver's best player.

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01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 6: Who let's be honest, I know everyone's SGA and I

2241
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 6: get it, you had best plus minus in the NBA

2242
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 6: this year, deserves to win MVP. But is there any

2243
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 6: doubt that Yokich is still kind of the best player

2244
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 6: in the sport now?

2245
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 4: He is?

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01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,600
Speaker 1: He didn't play like it last night, and that's what's crazy.

2247
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 1: He is eight for twenty five, oh for ten from

2248
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 1: three and they still won in overtime. It's like, wow, right,

2249
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 1: So I'll put a bow on it this way. I

2250
01:55:57,680 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: do think that the Nuggets and the Celtics have inflated

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01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 1: credentials after winning a championship like going forward, because we think,

2252
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:10,000
Speaker 1: oh man, they're legit, they're bonafied, and they're not as

2253
01:56:10,080 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 1: legit or bonafide as we think because the path was favorable.

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01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 1: I do believe that. But with that being said, does

2255
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:20,600
Speaker 1: that mean that they're absolutely destined to crash and Burn,

2256
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 1: that Denver has no chance against OKC, that Boston has

2257
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 1: no chance to come back and win the series against

2258
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 1: the Knicks. Absolutely not. There are no certainties here. But

2259
01:56:29,640 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 1: I do think their credentials are inflated from their title years.

2260
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: I do think that's at play here. But hey, we'll

2261
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 1: see where it goes from here. Because it's been wild

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Speaker 2: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Top of the Hour up on game LaVar Arrington, TJ.

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Speaker 1: Hushman's out of Plaxico Burus. They have got you covered

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Speaker 1: in seven minutes from that. Holy hell, we got a

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Speaker 1: hustle here. Let's get to this.

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Speaker 7: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jared, we start with you and props to you.

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01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 1: You gave a sovereignty last week. You know what here

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01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 1: before you go, I gotta I gotta.

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Speaker 2: Throw this out.

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01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:11,200
Speaker 1: It will take five seconds here, but listen to what

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01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 1: Jared did last week.

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01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 2: Listen to this.

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01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 1: They you make money of the old fat.

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01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh that's the wrong one.

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Speaker 4: Here you are.

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01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 5: I'm put a bonus pick for the derby.

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01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's hear it.

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01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 5: Sovereignty.

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01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 1: How about just threw out the derby winner? Like yeah,

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01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:25,000
Speaker 1: here's your bonus gym. All right, we got a minute,

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01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 1: so go fast. Jared, what do you have for us?

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01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 6: But yeah, buckle up, baby, saddle up. Padre's team total

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01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 6: over six and a half the Rocky stink. This is

2307
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 6: an easy one. Julius Randall over six and a half rebounds.

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01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 6: I gave this out during the platter. It's the highest

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01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:40,720
Speaker 6: probability per my NBA prop model.

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01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 4: Today.

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01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 6: I think rand Will gets some boards and I gotta

2312
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 6: do it. It's it's a delayed gratification. Bet Celtics to

2313
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 6: win the series against the Knicks. It's minus one twenty

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01:58:48,640 --> 01:58:49,560
Speaker 6: wowow we.

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01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 4: Go, yeo.

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01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 3: Give me New York Knickerbockers plus six against Boston Celtics.

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01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:02,040
Speaker 3: Give me gsw take down the Timberwolves. I'll take the

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01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 3: plus points plus five and a half there, and also

2319
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 3: give me the over on the total at the garden.

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01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 3: Nick's Celtics two. Oh wait, I'll take the over.

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01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:15,879
Speaker 1: All right, So give me Celtics minus six and a half.

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01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: Give me Celtics minus two and a half in the

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01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 1: first quarter. Wow, give me Derek White over three and

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01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: a half threes.

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01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 6: Good Celtics first half too, with clean sweep.

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Speaker 1: You know it was tough as splitting hairs,