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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the Nodunks podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network Thursday, February twentieth. I'm Jay Skeatzing

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Speaker 3: right there. He's smooth on the mic with a voice

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Speaker 3: Had to give you one. We got the beer to

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, we got the international man of mystery taking

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Speaker 3: it to the Max Lee Ellis.

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Speaker 5: Friend, I remember the thirty sixth Chamber. It was a

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Speaker 3: And the last, but not least making the magic happen

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Speaker 3: is JD. Hello, there he is, and here we are. JD.

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Speaker 3: What the hell is going on in the office here

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Speaker 3: this morning? We got a brand new setup us.

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Speaker 6: It's a nightmare. That's a goddamn nightmare.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the desk is all different. You're over at

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Speaker 3: waving when you put your arm above tray. Heah, there

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Speaker 3: you are. So we're trying things out here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, we're us as uh as mentioned before,

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Speaker 6: We did six years with you not seeing me, so

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Speaker 6: that's a good point. Fine, that's a good point.

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Speaker 3: watch for that podcast Thursday afternoon. Back to back Jack's

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Speaker 3: as we get back into it. We had a little break, look, guilty, guilty.

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Speaker 3: We need some time off every once in a while

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Speaker 3: after that crazy All Star weekend. But yeah, back to

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Speaker 3: into it with the updown report. Yes, the updown report.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I think this definitely helps his chances

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Speaker 1: Sure, Uh, there's there's just got to be something, because

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Speaker 3: that's just because I was like, oh my god, that

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Speaker 3: Course, of course. And it's yeah, and they gave it

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Speaker 3: It's sort of like pickup rules, right, It's like, I mean,

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Speaker 5: You saw that way out there on the court as well,

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Speaker 2: Now that's great, that's also what you want.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm up. It would have been a pretty monumental

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Speaker 4: terrible organization, cas sort of get a pass. But it

435
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Speaker 4: would have been very difficult for him to turn that

436
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,640
Speaker 4: whole thing around on his own. And he didn't coach

437
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 4: I didn't mention collm Saxton. He didn't coach those guys

438
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 4: well enough to try and integrate them. But I don't

439
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 4: know if you could integrate them with those old dudes.

440
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,640
Speaker 4: Those dudes were sort of done with the way that

441
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 4: Tylo was exited last year after only six games, which

442
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 4: was which is kind of nuts looking back, because Kevin

443
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 4: Love re signed to play with all those old dudes

444
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 4: A Tristan Thompson I didn't mention to try and win.

445
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 4: He got their lead guy got axed, and even Larry Drew,

446
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,560
Speaker 4: the assistant coach who took overs, was like, you know,

447
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 4: I don't know if I want this job, one of

448
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 4: the thirty head coaching jobs in the world, unless you

449
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,200
Speaker 4: give me an extension, which he got. He took the job,

450
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 4: and then he was gone at the end of the year,

451
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 4: which is really strange. It's just top down, Dan Gilbert,

452
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 4: top down. It's not a great organization.

453
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Speaker 1: And from the sound of things, it sounds like Beeline

454
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,199
Speaker 1: would have appreciated the Tylou six game scenario because in

455
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,880
Speaker 1: the preseason it sounds like he was done and regretting

456
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 1: leaving college to come coach this team. So, I mean,

457
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,880
Speaker 1: you really have to hate your job if you're giving

458
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: up millions and millions of dollars to go still work

459
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,320
Speaker 1: for the same organization, just not have to coach these guys,

460
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: and it's kind of been you know, things cool down

461
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 1: for the Calves, I would say during during the All

462
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 1: Star break, which is unfortunate because then they picked right

463
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,360
Speaker 1: back up because at the turn of the year, once

464
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: it switched over to the twenty twenty, it was just

465
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 1: stories about how much of a disaster the Calves are.

466
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: We had the thugs, slugs. We had Kevin Love pouten

467
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: on the sidelines and throwing wicked, hard passes to his teammates.

468
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not shocked that Beeline would want to jet,

469
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: but he's given up a whole bunch of money just

470
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 1: to not to have to deal with these guys.

471
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Speaker 5: It was a bad signing about hiring in the first place.

472
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 5: A sixty six year old guy has never coached in

473
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 5: the NBA before. Like that's weird.

474
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Speaker 2: It's just weird.

475
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Speaker 5: I mean, college coaches don't have a great track record

476
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 5: of having success in the NBA to have been some

477
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 5: like right now in Boston, Brad Steve and Stevens is

478
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 5: having success. But he's got a good team Cleveland and

479
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 5: there for if John Beelin doesn't have a very good team,

480
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 5: he's got young players who are too roar, and he's

481
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 5: got older players who don't really want to be there,

482
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 5: So it's tough.

483
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Speaker 3: It wasn't the whole idea. He was brought in because

484
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 3: he was a college coach. They have a young team. Yes,

485
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: there are some vets there as well, I get that,

486
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: but come in and develop these young players like Sexton

487
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 3: and Garland and Jeddie Osmond. And he's completely failed at that.

488
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: And he failed of course with you know, having any

489
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 3: respect from any of the vets that we're still there, right,

490
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Speaker 3: I mean I'm getting Look, that's a tough spot. I

491
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 3: hear everything you're saying. There tasks. I mean, it would

492
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 3: be difficult for any coach. But there is some blame

493
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 3: I think on him as well. He wanted to throw

494
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: the whole motion offense in. They were like polar polar man. Yeah,

495
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 3: like he sort of like has that college coach sort

496
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 3: of dictatorship sort of doesn't work with professional hiring.

497
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Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, I mean you can't then say, oh,

498
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 5: you tried to install a college system, the one that

499
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 5: you've coached for the last thirty years, Like oh, okay,

500
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 5: how come he didn't install an NBA offense? Like yeah,

501
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 5: so bad hiring the Cavs. I mean, I don't know

502
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 5: why again, a sixty six year old guy. It's a weird,

503
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 5: so just a weird ih to hire someone as their

504
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 5: first gig in the NBA.

505
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 4: But if they ran motion, I think they would have

506
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 4: been good, you know, if they actually ran an offense.

507
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 4: Like Brad Stevens comes in, that's his criticism. He runs

508
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 4: a college system, and that's why they can win fifty

509
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 4: plus games because they're good. And maybe they don't integrate

510
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 4: a superstar as well, which is the criticism of John Beeline.

511
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 4: But if they ran a system, then they'd be a

512
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 4: basketball team. They don't run anything, they really don't. They

513
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: don't run through sets. They just don't from top to bottom.

514
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 4: They just like, oh yeah, okay here. And that's why

515
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 4: guys are pissed off. That's why watching the games, it

516
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 4: doesn't look like basketball because it's not really basketball.

517
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 3: The kiss of death was these reports that Andre Drummond

518
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 3: comes over there and goes, wow, this is worse than Detroit.

519
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, can you get those beans back? And

520
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: then like even going in so far to say like

521
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 3: if he's still here next to I'm definitely not signing here.

522
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: Oh my god, drummon coming in, throwing around weight like

523
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: it it was over. It was probably over for a

524
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: long time. And then it was just the idea of

525
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 3: like Beline finally saying right, they hate me, they don't

526
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 3: listen to her, and I say I'm out of here,

527
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: like okay, forget the money, and like this old idea

528
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: that he's going to be working in some of their

529
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: capacity for the organization. Yeah right, he is that.

530
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: This is like he's porn of Lawrence frank Wright. Not report.

531
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: No, this is just like us trying to smooth over

532
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: the old press release of like yeah, we'll move him

533
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: around here. It's like yeah, no, no, no, he's just

534
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: gonna go finally, wait till he gets another call a

535
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: job and then he's gone. I don't think he's gonna

536
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: be there for the long run at all. But hey,

537
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: look J. B. Bickerstaff comes in there, and that's the

538
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: crazy part. Like when he was hired, yea, John be Lyne,

539
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 3: it was like reported that you know JB. Bickerstaff was

540
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 3: a part of the future in taking over for Beeline.

541
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 4: That was reported yeah yesterday.

542
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but that was like an arranged deal

543
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 3: you think it was.

544
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 4: I don't buy that you signed a guy for four

545
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: years to what to when.

546
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: This guy's yeah, no, it's very odd.

547
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 4: You're right, and a guy who has been in the

548
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: league as an assistant coach before, why not just give

549
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 4: him the job?

550
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 5: You're You're he hasn't had any real success himself as

551
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 5: a head coach.

552
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: No, No, he has it. In fact, as soon as

553
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: he leaves the team sort of bounce his back. He's

554
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 3: like the Jeff Green of coaches. I guess. But you

555
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 3: know he's gonna get a chance here, and expectations are

556
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: so super low. I think. Let's not forget Dan Gilbert

557
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: wanted Tom Izzo. That was the college coach he wanted.

558
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: That was his guy that he wanted. Couldn't get him, Okay,

559
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 3: And I guess with take John Bline, like it was like,

560
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 3: all right, well, if we can't get that older, you know,

561
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: talented college coach, then I guess we'll just take this one,

562
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: the bootleg version one comes in here and then.

563
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Speaker 1: Couldn't even look in a different state. He's like Michigan State.

564
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: Nope, Michigan all right, I mean, yes, sadly does feel

565
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 3: like that, or I mean, I should say Gilbert Kobe Hoeman,

566
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: I guess. But the cas Yeah, just brutal, worse net

567
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 3: rating in the league, you know, brutal on both sides

568
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: of the ball, offense and defense. And it's like the

569
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 3: most disappointing scary part is like, again they do have

570
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: young talent, it appears those guys didn't get any better

571
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 3: from what I saw so far. That's I mean, at

572
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: least if you're going to be bad, at least be

573
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: all to go, well, look at our young guys, like

574
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: they've gotten a little bit better. Has there been really

575
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: any development for a couple of those second or three

576
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: year guys. I don't think you can really truly see

577
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: there has.

578
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 5: Been, doesn't appear to But again, you know, he's I

579
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 5: don't know what the Cleveland Cavaliers were thinking when they

580
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: when they went with that guy.

581
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: Get someone young, Get someone who's sort of fresh out of.

582
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 5: League, who who may have been sitting on a bench

583
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 5: somewhere and deserves a chance, rather than a guy at

584
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 5: the end of his coaching career.

585
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 3: That's ageism, man.

586
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just weird though, isn't it. Really?

587
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 5: It is a little bit a lot, it's a lot.

588
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 5: I mean, you fired ty Lu afterwards six games, and

589
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 5: he won a championship with that team. And then you're

590
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 5: bringing a guy who's not even coached in the league

591
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 5: and expect him to have better success.

592
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, but the Cats do weird things.

593
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 5: And this is just another again, Like if you're a

594
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 5: free agent, like Andre Drummond is a free agent and

595
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 5: the Calves can sign him, and already he's like, there's

596
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 5: just no.

597
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: Way in the world sign Yeah, I don't care. Yeah,

598
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: I'll play in Europe rather than play here. You know,

599
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of what he's saying, is he?

600
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 5: I mean, like like that the Cavs need to have

601
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 5: a stable organization to attract free agency. They need to

602
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: have I mean, when you think about it, how many

603
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 5: band aids was Lebron putting over that franchise. Yeah, basically,

604
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 5: how he was able to thrive and to achieve anything

605
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 5: given the chaotic circumstances there is quite astounding.

606
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: Well, he's the best GM they've ever had. Yeah, that's

607
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter, is he is able to

608
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: draw players to him. There's nobody that's gonna sign with

609
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: the Cavaliers if you don't have a Lebron James there, right,

610
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have gone there if they hadn't lucked

611
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: into winning the lottery, getting Kyrie Irving and getting Andrew Wiggins.

612
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: Somebody you can ship out. Kevin Love wants to come in,

613
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: But Kevin Love is not a draw. Darius Garland, he's

614
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: leading the team in assisted at three point eight. He's

615
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: not a draw. Colin Sexton despised amongst players. Nobody wants

616
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 1: to play with them, so I don't know how they

617
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: get better. They brought in Andre Drummond. After two games,

618
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: he says, get me out of here. Yeah, that's a disaster,

619
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: all right.

620
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: Moving on here was over the last couple of days,

621
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: after agreeing to a contract buyer with the Pistons, guard

622
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson plans to sign with the Clippers upon clearing Weavers.

623
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: I guess this could happen as soon as today. He

624
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: has up or down on the Clippers adding Reggie Jackson.

625
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: Wow. Well, I guess he's an insurance policy for the Clippers.

626
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 5: Really, because Reggie we just haven't seen enough of him

627
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 5: over the last couple of years to be a significant

628
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: impact player on that team. When he came to Detroit,

629
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 5: it was almost like the James Harden going to the

630
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 5: Rocket situation, he was playing behind Russell Westbrook.

631
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 2: He didn't like that.

632
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 5: Westbrook gets injured, and he started to show that he

633
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 5: could play. Pistons take a gamble on him, and things

634
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 5: were going alright in those early days. But injuries, situation,

635
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 5: team have just kind of caught up with him. And

636
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 5: he's only twenty nine, Yeah, seems older than that. It

637
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: seems like he's been around, you know, for a lot longer.

638
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 5: So I guess the Clippers they need an another guy

639
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 5: they can perhaps used to go out there and create

640
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 5: some plays and handle the ball, and I think he

641
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 5: can do that in you know, very limited minutes.

642
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: But as far as.

643
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: Anything else on that team, I don't think he's not

644
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 5: taking anybody's minutes who's healthy by any means. So, you know,

645
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: the teams when they're contenders, they like to just have

646
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 5: that guy, you know, their roster who can come out

647
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 5: and maybe fill in during those blowouts, get some of

648
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 5: their main players rest.

649
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: Because that's all he is.

650
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not going to play at all. I'm still up.

651
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: He's not going to take minutes from Lou Williams or anybody.

652
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: But I'm up because he keeps the Lakers. He's keeping

653
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: the Clippers are keeping him away from the Lakers, and

654
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 4: that's why I'm up on it. That's what they're doing

655
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: does take keep anybody away from the Los Angeles Leers,

656
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 4: and it has nothing to do with basketball. Really, is

657
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 4: he going to play over Lou Williams or Patrick Beverlely

658
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 4: or anybody can handle the ball. I doubt it. I

659
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: guess he's best buds with Paul George and that's why

660
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 4: he's going there. But I think that's a win for

661
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: the Clippers just because they're keeping something away from the

662
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: Lakers that they could actually use. The Lakers need a

663
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: ball handle, the Clippers don't. And I think the Clippers

664
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 4: still need a big. And if Reggie Jackson is the

665
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 4: guy that they decide to cut, if there's an opportunity

666
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 4: to get a big, they would do that in a heartbeat.

667
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: That's more important.

668
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm actually down on it task for the exact reason

669
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: you're saying. They're being a little bit too greedy here.

670
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: You scared of the Lakers. You don't want him to

671
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: get Reggie Jackson. Reggie Jackson's not that much of an

672
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: impact maker, and you got to go out of your

673
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: way to keep him away from the Lakers. If this

674
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: was Lebron bringing in all these guys, he would be

675
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: getting killed. Why do you need so much help? I

676
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: thought you got all the help you needed with Anthony Davis,

677
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: with Kawhi Leonard. It's totally fine. Nobody cares because he's

678
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: best budded with Paul George. But Reggie Jackson, maybe he'll

679
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: have a good quarter, but I would have rather see him.

680
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be a buyout guy, go to a

681
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: team where you're gonna really make a difference.

682
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: I'm a little higher on this, I guess than you

683
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 3: guys are. I mean Reggie Jackson and I have buried

684
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: Reggie Jackson in the past before. He's not a brutal

685
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: backup guard. I think we've learned. If anything, him trying

686
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: to be maybe a lead guy in Detroit is that's

687
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: just a little too much for Reggie. Know your role

688
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 3: in this league. Hopefully he's humbled, maybe even a little

689
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: bit by it, the idea of like, oh I am

690
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: a really I can be a really good backup guard,

691
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: and I think there will be some minutes there still

692
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: as a backup guard for the Clippers, I mean their

693
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: bench now is even better if it is still you know,

694
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: if Shammon is sort of one of the guys playing

695
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: and starting, and Beverly is starting Reggie Jackson, and then

696
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: sweet Lou Marcus Morris to Michael Green, mantras, harrel, I

697
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: think I heard Jay Williams on ESPN saying, is that

698
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: a playoff team in the Eastern Conference? Those five guys.

699
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: Probably it's probably like the seventh or eight seed, but

700
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: in a reduced role. The guy can still hit threes

701
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: if he's healthy, he's fine, So I don't mind it.

702
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: I think what they're doing here, I mean we made

703
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: the comparison Doc Rivers getting Marcus Morris that was like

704
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: his O eight James Posey, you said it can Reggie

705
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: Jackson win you a quarter or two? Well, then maybe

706
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: he's the hopefully like the Eddie House version of the

707
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: O eight Celtics, or you know, the Sam Cozell version

708
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: to some extent, just like a sort of sound backup

709
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: guard that can maybe get a little hot and win

710
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: you a quarter or two here, and that's fine and

711
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: you know, really not costing you anything, giving up anything

712
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: to get them. It's sort of wild to me that

713
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: just even the guy says, a five year, eighty million

714
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: dollar deal, and he's like, we're at the point now

715
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: where there's biotes in the end of their final years.

716
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just I know.

717
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: The pistons are just like, we gotta get rid of

718
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: it everything here, and that's what's happening. But it's pretty rare, right,

719
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: We don't see something like that all that often in

720
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: a guy in his prime.

721
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a thirty eight.

722
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 6: Year old here.

723
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: Well, he's in his prime in terms of his age,

724
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 5: but I guess just the fact that his body has

725
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 5: just been broken down for seemingly, you know, the last

726
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 5: two or three years, so he's an old twenty nine.

727
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess. But yeah, it could have been good

728
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: for Reggie.

729
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: You have a lot of thought about a lot of

730
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: thoughts about each today.

731
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: Trade's birthdays. It's fine.

732
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: Tray still got a good couple of years after thirty six,

733
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 5: Only a good couple, ye man. It goes downhill after

734
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 5: about thirty eight, thirty nine.

735
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 6: For yourself, Man, you're still flying over there. Never that's

736
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 6: shape of my life, man, Oh yeah, oh yeah, right, yeah,

737
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 6: Well that's that's sad looking at me.

738
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: But that's all that in the swimming pool, isn't it.

739
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 6: That's right?

740
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's speak a dolphin.

741
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 6: Butterfly, that's trip.

742
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: Over the All Star break, Nets head coach Kenny Atkinson

743
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: confirmed that Kyrie Irving has reaggravated the shoulder injury that

744
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: caused him to miss twenty six games this season and

745
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: he's out indefinitely. I want to know, I'm asking it

746
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: this way, are you up or down on the Nets?

747
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: You know, potentially shutting down Kyrie for the rest of

748
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: the season. Well, you know, up if you think he's done. Down,

749
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: if you think maybe he comes back here, Well he's

750
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: only twenty seven, Kyrie a few years, but he's a

751
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: basketball player, so his shoulder is like the age of

752
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: a thirty eight year old.

753
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 5: This is This is a pretty weird situation though for him,

754
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 5: because this injury has been bothering him for most of

755
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 5: the season, and when he's been able to play, he's

756
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 5: been good.

757
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: You know.

758
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 5: The Nets we know have struggled sort of integrating him

759
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: at times this year, but I think probably part of

760
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: that is because he's been in an out of lineup.

761
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 5: But if it's and it's his right shoulder too, so

762
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 5: this is shooting shoulders, his dribbling shoulder. If he he

763
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 5: potentially does more damage to this in the long term

764
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 5: than definitely, I think they shut him down. They're not

765
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: competing for a championship this year. They're gonna even you know,

766
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: the playoffs is really their goal. And even if they

767
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 5: make the playoffs, they probably first round fodder. So Kevin

768
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 5: Durant's coming back next season. We've seen him working out.

769
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 5: He's looking great, knocking down some shots.

770
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, for an older gay, he looks great.

771
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. How old he thirty one thirty.

772
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: He's plus thirty. It's all down health career.

773
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, I would be inclined to find the nets

774
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 5: to probably shut him down for the rest of this season.

775
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they've already had a successful season. They're

776
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs. They're two games up on

777
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: the eighth seed, They're five games up on the ninth

778
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: seed right now, So I think you can lock the

779
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: nets in even if Kyrie is out for the rest

780
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: of the season, considering this season was kind of a

781
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: wait and see anyways, I think the smart thing is

782
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: to let him just chill, get that shoulder healthy, because

783
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: you need to be one hundred percent strength for when

784
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant comes back, and you need to be at

785
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: your best, at your best health going into the summer,

786
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: so that players are like, hey, we know we got

787
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: two superstars. They're ready and waiting. Maybe I can hop

788
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: on and try and make a trip to the conference

789
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: finals of the finals.

790
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the perfect recipe to shut it down. He

791
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 4: already has said we're not good enough this year, and

792
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 4: I'm already thinking about next year. He's not one hundred percent.

793
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 4: And he also just became one of the VPS of

794
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: the Players Association, and so I think he's just like

795
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 4: Andre Gadalda just told us recently about flexing his player

796
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 4: power and the player empowerment era. He's saying, you know what,

797
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: I'll be back next year and I'm under contract. And

798
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: I think he's got a bit of the Lebron flavor,

799
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 4: like when he commented about his teammates not being good enough,

800
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 4: really not being good enough to go to the championship.

801
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: I think he's always sort of mirrored Lebron's mentality that

802
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 4: Lebron knows that I want to play for champions and

803
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: Lebron's always definitely set himself up that way, and Kyrie's

804
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: doing the same set himself up for next year.

805
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, because earlier this season he opted to get the

806
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: courtizone shot instead of any surgery on that that banged

807
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: up shoulder and pinged whatever it's called, to see if

808
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: like he can get through it. That could get him

809
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 3: through the pain. I guess it hasn't. He's only playing

810
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 3: twenty games for the NETS. Feels like he's playing way

811
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: more to behave. It's just because we talk about him

812
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: all the time. But I'm willing to bet. Like you

813
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: guys are saying here, I'm gonna echo what you're saying,

814
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: i am willing to bet in the next few weeks

815
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: that one they lean into saying Kyrie's done for the season,

816
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: and then maybe two he you know, and again the

817
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks here he gets surgery. So if

818
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: if it really is truly bothering, he gets some sort

819
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: of surgery so he can be ready for camp next year,

820
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: because that would you know, I'm guessing that would take

821
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: a couple of months to sort of try and bounce

822
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: back from that. That's my guess. I'm not a doctor,

823
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: but we will see. And just sort of in other

824
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: you know, sort of big news with star players, I

825
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 3: guess Karl Anthony Towns is also out indefinitely with that's

826
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: the risk injury, is it not? Maybe the same thing goes.

827
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 4: With the Wolves.

828
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: They're like, well, he's hurt and we ain't making the playoffs.

829
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Let's just reset it all next year and maybe he

830
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: gets the surgery he needs, or just obviously rest up

831
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: sonor and of course for Kyrie and kat or Nuts

832
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: and wolfsans final one here, I just want to get

833
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: your take on this tray up or down on the

834
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 3: Bulls plans to shake up the front office. Is Star

835
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: Foreman being fired?

836
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm down on this. I'm down on this. I don't

837
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: see any reason to make a move at this point, right,

838
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: it's only been seventeen years of this administration. Why jump

839
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: ship now? No, of course this is a smart move,

840
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: but it's not enough because apparently fire gar Packs means

841
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: both Gar and Packs will still be major voices in

842
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: in the Bulls decision. Making this to me is just

843
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: being embarrassed about being such a minor story. At the

844
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: Chicago All Star Weekend, it was a great All Star weekend.

845
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: The dunk contest was fun. The three point contest came

846
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: down to the very last shot, we know the target

847
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: score worked, common was getting his rhymes off.

848
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: Rising Stars entered.

849
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: Rising Stars was fun. It was a great weekend and

850
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: the only things that happened for the Bulls were that

851
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: zach Lavine was eliminated from the three point contest after

852
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: the first round and fire Gar Packs was chanted on ESPNS.

853
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: That's about it. That's the only things that have happened.

854
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: Well, you wore a Jordan jersey to it.

855
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: I wore a Jordan jersey. That's a good point. We

856
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: sold some Bulls looking shirts, but other than that, the

857
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: biggest cheer for anything Bulls related over the weekend was

858
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: when Jimmy Butler was announced and then they were like,

859
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I remember when we batched that this is

860
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: the third rebuild for Gar and Packs. Well, I guess

861
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: technically just for Packs, but they had the dang Nocioni

862
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: Kirk Heinrich Ben Gordon era way back when, which was

863
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: the first time that they were anything decent after the dynasty.

864
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: That turned into the Rose thing when they lucked into

865
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: getting him as a draft pick. Then that morphed into

866
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Butler team, which they gave up on, and

867
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: then now we have the boil and boys, which has

868
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: been a disaster. But clearly things need to change. But

869
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: it can't just be bringing in a couple of more

870
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: guys and then still listening to whatever John Paxson has

871
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, it's like every single season the Balls

872
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: have injuries, get a new medical staff. Yeah right, I

873
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: mean that seems like an easy one. Try anything, try it,

874
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: literally anything. But at least they're trying something.

875
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, maybe that's exactly what is it worth? These

876
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 3: just reports because it was All Star weekend in Chicago

877
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: and it's like everybody's upset with this. Well, let's just

878
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: say we're Meybe moving on from one of the guys

879
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: that people.

880
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 5: Just change my title. Yeah, but it comes back to ownership.

881
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 5: Ownership just doesn't care. So why are they going to

882
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 5: make any change? Why are they're going to be any

883
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 5: different or any better until you completely clean house and

884
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 5: start fresh. I don't see how the Bulls are even

885
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 5: going to ever be able to sort of get out

886
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: of this same sort of mess they're in because I

887
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: think about John Paxson and car when you hear them talk,

888
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 5: they actually talk as if we're having some success with

889
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 5: this is the sort of we're on the right track.

890
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: This is what we want to do.

891
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 5: You know, we're happy with our position right now. And

892
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 5: you only have to look at a team like the Grizzlies,

893
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 5: who you know, got a bit lucky there with the draft.

894
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 5: They get jar Morant and then they get a few

895
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: other and some of these younger players start coming together.

896
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 5: You can turn things around quickly. You don't have to

897
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 5: just rock for years. It does take some luck, no

898
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 5: doubt about it. But change things up, try some new things,

899
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 5: and do it that way. But when you're the Bulls,

900
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 5: it seems it's just like who cares?

901
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes you rightly, you got to get lucky, like drafting

902
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: a superstar player at number thirty who wants to really

903
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: really work hard and tell everybody he's working hard. But

904
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: then you're like, I don't know, man, he's a little

905
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: bit greeting. Literally, look at what Jimmy Butler is doing

906
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: with the heat. Yeah, could that not have been the

907
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: balls if they would have stuck with him for four seasons?

908
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: Of course it could have been. And that's basically what

909
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 5: he sort of has said about the franchise. Isn't he

910
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: like they don't want to work that hard?

911
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: You know?

912
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 5: Same thing in Minnesota and to some degree in Philadelphia.

913
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 5: He's in a situation where if guys work hard, look

914
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 5: at the results and it's looking great. But yeah the Bulls,

915
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: and the Bulls gave him away for what Zach.

916
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: Lavine and Markinen was Christune, Oh Chris done.

917
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

918
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Levine's been a serviceable player. But Jimmy

919
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: Butler is back in the All Star Game, may very

920
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 5: well be All NBA this season as well, and the

921
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 5: Bulls just let him go.

922
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't it not. The Bulls, their whole franchise is

923
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 3: similar to the Nixon Way, right, It's a marquee franchise.

924
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: It's just like prints money for them. I mean, like

925
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: they're all you know. I can't speak for the Knicks,

926
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: but I know the Bulls were regularly like one of

927
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: the best teams in terms of attendance to top two,

928
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: not being all that great. I know that is starting

929
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: to slip now, and that's why people are thinking, Oh,

930
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: that's why we're getting some sort of comments from ownership

931
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: like oh, yeah, maybe we do need to make some

932
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: moves because like once it's like, oh, people are now

933
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: not coming. Yeah we don't you know. Yeah, the blog

934
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: boys are all upset with us, but who cares rich?

935
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody still comes to the games, buys all

936
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 3: the merchandise, and loves the franchise. But when that starts

937
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: to slip, then maybe, you know, they do sort of

938
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: have to like, okay, maybe we got to shake things up,

939
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: so you know, stop going to Bulls games, I guess

940
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: is my advice. It seems to be the one thing

941
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: that might get their attention to actually do something different.

942
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I know when we were walking into the

943
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: arena on Sunday, I was yelling let's go Bulls. Nobody

944
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: was joking.

945
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, not even your sarcastic Let's go Bulls

946
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: could get any response from anyone. Yeah, I noticed that.

947
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: Yeah tragic who was indeed? All right? So that's the

948
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 3: updown report. Let's get to the tweet in the night.

949
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: Tweet out the night Wow, twet tweet of the night

950
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 4: sting where I throw out that sound actually plays into

951
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 4: tweet the night because we're because it's a tasty one,

952
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 4: Almond Joys were trending, so I had to take a

953
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 4: look at what was going on. It's a chocolate bar

954
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: or candy bar, whatever you want to call it. A confection.

955
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 4: It's a shredded, shredded coconut, a lot of it cocond

956
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: with milk chocolate and an almond on top of each half.

957
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 4: If you're not familiar, it's the sister of Mountains, which

958
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: is dark chocolate, no almond coconut, So a lot of

959
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: coconut people don't like coconut. The tweet comes from Locked

960
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 4: Up with nessa y'all study asking about who's eating Arby's

961
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 4: keeping them in business. Who the fuck is eating almond joys?

962
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 4: She just she just steered at one hundred and eighty

963
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: degrees people talking Arby's. She's an Arby's stand apparently the

964
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 4: fast food joint where you get your meats. But she

965
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: just she just turned it into a coconut chocolate bar discussion.

966
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: And so do you like coconut?

967
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: Is?

968
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 4: This really comes down to, I mean, if you don't

969
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: like milk chocolate, you're weird. But if you if you

970
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: don't like coconut, I understand. But I like all my

971
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 4: joys and I like mountains.

972
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I hate I hate them because I'm not

973
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 3: I don't like it. Yeah, I don't like the coconut

974
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: chocolate combo. And exactly I hate both of those.

975
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 4: Those are always coconut and chocolate.

976
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 3: No, no, the mountains and almondoy. They're always the last

977
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: chocolate bar, you know, that's around Halloween. That's just still

978
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: sitting there. I won't touch them, do you. Is it

979
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: bounty in North America? Yea, yeah, that's just strike coconut

980
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 3: and milk chocolate, isn't it. Yeah, that's what's in the hybrid.

981
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're bad, So you're not a fan of I

982
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: don't like coconut.

983
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: No, not like that.

984
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: I mean coconut water, right, But but you don't like

985
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: shredded coconut. Shredded coconut.

986
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: I love an almond Joy. I think one of one

987
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: of the smartest moves you can pull it as an

988
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: adult is to like all of the worst things. So

989
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: if you get a bag of a sorted Halloween candy,

990
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: you're right, Almondjoy is probably coming in last place. But

991
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: if you love an almond Joy, you're the king, right.

992
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: It's or like if you like a sour cream glazed donut,

993
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: or if you like a plain and donut, those ones

994
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: are always available, so go for the bad ones. For me,

995
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: almond Joy, it brings me great joy.

996
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 6: But I didn't.

997
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't know that mounds was dark chocolate.

998
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 1: I like that better.

999
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 4: I didn't either, That's all I right about it.

1000
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: That's at the streets.

1001
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll get those sweets. JD or do you want

1002
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: to comment on this?

1003
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 6: I am down on coconut. I'm out.

1004
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: You can keep them, keep them.

1005
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 6: And I'm sure I'm too old to jump on that

1006
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 6: tray to become the guy that likes coconut. The only thing.

1007
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: I'm too joy the only thing, the only thing. You're

1008
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 4: mister healthy and tiptop shape. Do you throw coconut in

1009
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 4: your morning smoothie? Perhaps?

1010
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: No?

1011
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 6: I don't drink smoothies. I'm not consuming calories through liquid.

1012
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 6: Are you crazy?

1013
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: But you like alcohol?

1014
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 6: That's different. Oh that's different.

1015
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: Coconut.

1016
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 6: Why getting B twelve vitamin B twelve from my guinness?

1017
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: Right? Why? Uh? You? You're a smoothie man.

1018
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 6: I'm off the smoothies.

1019
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I'm off. Now you don't do it anymore.

1020
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 6: I don't do it anymore. I'm a yogurt and uh

1021
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 6: bran and granola guy. Now, wow, I'm over. You just

1022
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 6: age yourself.

1023
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 4: Further and further.

1024
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 2: Yogurt.

1025
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: Easy on the.

1026
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 6: Chompers and I enjoy my movements.

1027
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: I think the only problem really with Almond Joys is

1028
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: the name. For me, I'm fine with coconut all my

1029
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: joy is just like a lame name.

1030
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: Pretty misleading, no mention of a coconut at all.

1031
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and no joy.

1032
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 4: And mounds as well.

1033
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like the packaging of all three of those,

1034
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: like the Bounty, the mounds and the all Enjoy. I'm

1035
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: with you, like it actually doesn't look appealing even to me,

1036
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 3: I don't know what. It almost looks like a laundry

1037
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 3: detergent vibe to it is like the blue and white.

1038
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 3: I feel like in my head that's how I'm remembering

1039
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: them at least that's yeah, that's bounty, Okay.

1040
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: Almond joy is red, right, Yeah, yeah.

1041
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: All Enjoy is blue, mounds red, and I think Bounty

1042
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: might be it might be a bluey.

1043
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 4: It's supposed to the imagery is supposed to be a

1044
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: blue sky. You're looking up at the coconut in the

1045
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 4: sky and the tree, all right.

1046
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: I mean it's one. That's why that tweet goes viral, right,

1047
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: It's one of those so polarizing people have such a

1048
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 3: strong opinion about. Oh, that's the worst candy bar.

1049
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Or are you kidding me?

1050
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: That's such a great game where it's it's very rarely

1051
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: are people just like man, you your own one extreme

1052
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: or the other. That's fascinating.

1053
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: H I mean, nobody's going in like this on one

1054
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: hundred grand bar, a lesser known bar. But it's just

1055
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: like it's just crispy, right, it's fine.

1056
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred grand didn't exist in Canada and if

1057
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: it went away, I wouldn't care. It's fine. I don't

1058
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: mind it. Actually, I'm gonna get a hund grand bar.

1059
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: All right, I'll get a mounds. I think they come

1060
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: in two PACs. Right, we can trade perfect, all right,

1061
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: I'll get a payday.

1062
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: Very cool.

1063
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: Wait till Friday, Lee, what.

1064
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: Are you gonna get? You gotta get a candy bar

1065
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: that you don't have.

1066
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: You rarely get picnic.

1067
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 6: They don't have picnic here, don't Well if you go

1068
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 6: to the international section.

1069
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: And oh ba, then yeah, I'll get a mos bar.

1070
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: Right as bar. Thanks Ma for the bar.

1071
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 3: Let's get to uh, well, at least some pickup updates here. Yeah,

1072
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: we don't need to. We didn't have anything to pick

1073
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: There's nothing like recent that we've done. I just want

1074
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 3: to give you we stand. In February, Test did pay

1075
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 3: off his January pick a loss at our live show

1076
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: on Saturday night in Chicago.

1077
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 7: Took a shot of my lort lort lort my lord

1078
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Speaker 7: and my lady, I know it's say it's I, and

1079
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 7: then we gave it away to a fan one millert me.

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00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: Lady, he wanted that bottled.

1081
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he sprinted up. I did. I did

1082
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: a shot after the show at the bar. Some kind

1083
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: nodunks fan bought me one. Yeah. It was bad there.

1084
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 3: It lived up to the hype. I actually thought that

1085
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 3: we disagreed on it because I thought the I didn't

1086
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: mind it going in.

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00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: I had a little.

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00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 3: Grapefruit sort of weird tinge to it, but man, the

1089
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: aftertaste was brutal. Yeah, well you didn't think it was

1090
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: the I'm just that bad to you. You said you

1091
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: thought it the other way around.

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00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: Maybe for sure.

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00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised afterwards that I didn't have a

1094
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 4: sip of anything to wash it down for like half

1095
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 4: an hour. I looked down. Oh didn't bother me that much.

1096
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 4: It's just a really strange taste though. Yeah, couldn't put

1097
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 4: I couldn't put into words. Somebody said like burnt ash,

1098
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: burnt socks, like the ashes of burnt socks. Okay, okay, okay,

1099
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 4: something something ashy for sure.

1100
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: So task has paid that off. Here's February's standings right now.

1101
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: Tass is six and three, he's looking good, Trey and

1102
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: Lee are five and four, and I'm away behind at

1103
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 3: two and seven with you know, not a whole whole

1104
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: lot of time here, well, but enough enough to get

1105
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 3: back into it. So what's tonight's game.

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00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 4: Let's get back into this TNT doubleheader tonight. The second

1107
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 4: game is the Rockets going crazy small ball, signing every

1108
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: smally in the league, with Jeff Green and Damori Carroll

1109
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 4: coming to the team visiting the Golden State Warriors, and

1110
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,479
Speaker 4: the Rockets are favored by ten and a half.

1111
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 3: Ooh man. That first game back from the All Star weekend.

1112
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: It's tough, and the Warriors got a lot of positivity,

1113
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 4: positivity going on around them, Steve Kerr saying Steph's definitely

1114
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: coming back seeing him and warm ups those videos.

1115
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Instagram parst, do you look like his hand is

1116
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: pretty fully much healed?

1117
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: My strong base?

1118
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, looking strong, everything looking strong.

1119
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: Everything looking very strong, very.

1120
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 4: Traymond Green says Andrew Wagans could be defensive player of

1121
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: the year. He's got that potential. This is great. Stop. Wow,

1122
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: you just like the feeling good. They're feeling good.

1123
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: You convinced me.

1124
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Warriors half.

1125
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going with the Rockets. They're well rested.

1126
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 2: I think the Rockets.

1127
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Draymond Green He's gonna do it.

1128
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: I got the words, all right, okay.

1129
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: I think Draymond Green had the quote of also you

1130
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 4: mentioned a few of those things that happened there, Trey

1131
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: Draymond Greeny got back to practice. He was asked, what

1132
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 4: are you looking forward to in the second half? He

1133
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 4: said a bye, oh.

1134
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was very fun.

1135
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Dream on all right, yeah, positivity high around. Those Warriors

1136
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: are gonna keep it close. You guys need the Rockets

1137
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: to win by eleven or more. Task and I just

1138
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: have to not even really have that close the game,

1139
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: just no real blowout. Six games back on tonight. Nice

1140
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 3: to have NBA back in our lives. That's the second

1141
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: game of that TNT double header. Net Sixers. Get us

1142
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: started there and then more games on. Can't wait to

1143
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: talk about them on tomorrow's Drop podcast. New Beach stepp

1144
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: In podcast coming later today, So get your questions in

1145
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: no dunks at the Athletic dot com.

1146
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: Let's talk to you soon.

1147
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Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1148
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: love you guys awesome.

1149
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember you can have a

1150
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 4: payday every day if your payday is Chocolatey Netty Caramelly,

1151
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 4: new Gaddy goodness. I'm not sure if it has all

1152
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 4: those things, but I think it does.

1153
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: Brace your candy people.

1154
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 6: You can stay.

1155
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 8: Every day, you happy, every minute. It's been so long

1156
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 8: that you're the fun I've playing for. It's happened already.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be goody