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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have a diehard Nuggets fan in your life,

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Speaker 1: big smooth. I would he consider getting that tattooed if

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Speaker 2: I think he would consider it. One of the last

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Speaker 2: things he messaged me last week was what should I

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Speaker 2: get for a tattoo?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: He's like, maybe I'll get the Rainbow skyline. But one

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Speaker 2: of the buildings is a Larry O'Brien trophy. Pretty cool, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I was like, thinking about it. I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 2: if that uh little Denver man works his way into

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's talk about it. It wasn't pretty.

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Speaker 1: I think we can agree on that. But the Nuggets

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Speaker 1: beat the Heat last night ninety four eighty nine in

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Speaker 1: a frantic Game five to win the franchise's first ever

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Speaker 1: NBA championship. I know there's a ton to unpack in

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Speaker 1: regards to Jokic and his legacy and all the postgame

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Speaker 1: festivities tasks, but we did have a basketball game which

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Speaker 1: we watched on playback. Do you have any takeaways you

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Speaker 1: know from the game and the series here in Denver

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Speaker 1: winning in five.

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Speaker 3: I've already kind of wiped the game from my brain.

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Speaker 3: I gotta be honest. I mean, it was an ugly,

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Speaker 3: horrendous game that was kind of lucky to get into

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Speaker 3: the nineties. I would say ninety four eighty nine for

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Speaker 3: the Nugs in the end. Michael Porter Junior coming through

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Speaker 3: a rough, rough series to this point, and obviously his

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Speaker 3: team believed in him, and even though he didn't shoot

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Speaker 3: all that well, they just needed him out there. He

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Speaker 3: had eight double doubles in the playoffs. He had three

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Speaker 3: all regular seasons. So that just kind of speaks to

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Speaker 3: the way they fought and the way they got through.

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Speaker 3: They won a game to end a Finals by shooting

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Speaker 3: eighteen percent from three. That's disgusting. That's it shows that

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Speaker 3: you can still win from two point land. They won

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Speaker 3: games in this series shooting twenty eight percent, twenty nine percent,

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Speaker 3: and eighteen percent from three. That's the third worst mark

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Speaker 3: at eighteen percent of any Finals team ever in any

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Speaker 3: game that took a decent amount of attempts twenty five

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Speaker 3: were actually doing all they could. They were switching up

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Speaker 3: point line. In that zone. They were just throwing everything

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Speaker 3: at the Nuggets. Then Nugget shot eighteen percent from three.

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Speaker 3: I thought the Heat played extremely well. The Nuggets were

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Speaker 3: Like it reminded me of twenty ten Lakers and Celtics.

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Speaker 3: They went seven games. Game seven was disgusting. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: was eighty three. It was eighty three to seventy nine.

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Speaker 3: Kobe shot six to twenty four. No Celtic had twenty points.

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Speaker 3: In fact, this the Nuggets won. This game, better team won,

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Speaker 3: But it was an ugly game, but they obviously were

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Speaker 2: Game seven vibes last night, the way everybody was tight,

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Speaker 2: Denver this series. They gave up over one hundred points

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Speaker 2: last night. They had barely any turnovers last night, and

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Speaker 2: As they could sense that they were getting closer and

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Speaker 2: even more so. Ksep was awesome, like he's first team

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Speaker 2: All Playoffs defense for me easily, and this had the

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Speaker 2: just smack the heat offensively, run up and down the court.

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Speaker 2: They did that at points in this series. But it

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Speaker 1: It is wild that they wrapped up the finals in

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Speaker 1: the Championship starting this game missing twenty of their first

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Speaker 3: They were better. They had the two best stars out

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Speaker 3: there at Jokic extremely calm leading his way through this game,

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Speaker 3: and that foul trouble I thought could could be a

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Speaker 3: while Jokic sat with his foul trouble. It didn't matter.

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Speaker 3: They're just too damn good offensively. And you know, everybody

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Speaker 3: pointing to Jimmy Butler who just didn't have it on

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Speaker 3: I mean, I look at Michael Porter Junr And I

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Speaker 3: think it's just impossible to have it like night in

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Speaker 3: well for three rounds and like Michael Port Junior, you know,

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Speaker 3: he's stunk shooting the ball for a few games here

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Speaker 3: So it's hard to be just put it on Jimmy

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Speaker 3: and just say, hey, you should you should have scored more,

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Speaker 3: you should have done more. At least he went down

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Speaker 3: mid range. Yeah, that would have been nice to see

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Speaker 3: last night. But yeah, it's too much. It's hard to

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Speaker 3: be a number one guy for two months over and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bad possessions at the end. That one obviously that

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Speaker 3: And then.

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Speaker 1: There was that three pointer that he you know, after

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Speaker 1: But yeah, not great but wow, what an ending to

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Speaker 1: this NBA season. Let's talk Yokich. He wins the Bill

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Speaker 1: Russell NBA Finals MVP Award. Does he have it? Where

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Speaker 1: I saw of Jokic, but they.

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Speaker 3: Had they had a photo shoo after.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Yokich averaged thirty point two points per game,

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Speaker 1: that Game three there, when he went for thirty two

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Speaker 1: game which the Nuggets rebounded from their only loss in

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Speaker 1: the series. He is just the fifth player in NBA

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Speaker 1: history to average thirty ten and five in a Final series.

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Speaker 1: It's Kareem, HiT's Hakeem, It's Lebron a couple times, it's Jannis,

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Speaker 1: and it's Jokich. Not bad the thirty ten and five

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Speaker 1: there in the Finals. He's the eleventh player in NBA

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Speaker 1: history to win at least two regular season MVP awards,

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Speaker 1: a championship and a Finals MVP but like more than that,

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Speaker 1: I think when you like zoom out a little bit,

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Speaker 1: Jokis just completed one of the greatest postseason runs in

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Speaker 1: NBA history, and he statistically joins a pretty incredible list

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Speaker 1: of goats. There are only four guys who played at

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Speaker 1: least fifteen postseason games and had a pr over thirty

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Speaker 1: and won the chip. It's Lebron who did it three times,

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Speaker 1: It's Jordan who did it twice, It's Shack.

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Speaker 3: And it's Jokich.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. The pr over thirty fifteen games played,

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Speaker 1: obviously meaning you're going very far and winning the championship.

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Speaker 1: Lebron and mj also did it in seasons that they

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Speaker 1: didn't win the championship. That just speaks to how great

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Speaker 1: they are. But that's where he is, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's immediately in like the pantheon here of all time

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Speaker 1: greats with two MVPs and now a finals MVP in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're starting from a baseline of two MVPs.

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of guys that have that as

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Speaker 4: You got it?

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Speaker 2: That's how it should be, though, Yeah, one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: Well, the similarities to that two thousand Shaq Lakers run

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Speaker 1: Do you have opinions on that? Obviously, none of this

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Speaker 2: They're gonna be losing Bruce Brown. They're gonna be having

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Speaker 3: He said he wants to come back.

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Speaker 4: So many are a dynasty?

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Speaker 1: How many titles are a dynasty? Well, pay three three

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Speaker 2: You, do you consider a dynasty only four seasons they lasted?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you said it right there too. Like the

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Speaker 2: Then the Atlanta Hawks five time, five different champions though

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And maybe keeping Christian Brown around is kind of

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Speaker 2: Wo get him a World Cup Cup, and then put

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Speaker 2: This guy's done at all. Then he can retire at

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Speaker 1: What else is there?

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Speaker 1: Put him in the whole time and he's done. Denver

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so Jogic falls in with him. They're both

435
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 2: going and then I think it's uh my seatball. Sources

436
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 2: say it was black co chonchar Okay coming in with

437
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 2: a tight squeeze of a cannonball to get in there.

438
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 2: He goes for the full tuck and he abandoned a

439
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: little at the end, but understandable. Probably thought he was

440
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 2: going into the edge. Looked pretty dangerous. But at least

441
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 2: somebody else was there to celebrate with him because I

442
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 2: fell here.

443
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, well, one of the weirdest celebrations

444
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: from a superstar of all time. I think we could

445
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 1: agree with Ki just the way he went about everything,

446
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,040
Speaker 1: almost didn't feel like he wanted to be there. You

447
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 1: saw the clip of him with the champagne too good,

448
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: half fast, A couple of squirts out. Okay, let's go

449
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,240
Speaker 1: see the horses, like, doesn't want to stick around for

450
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: the parade. He's just like he's basically looking at it

451
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: like a job. He's like, Okay, job's done. Time to

452
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: go home, which is pretty funny.

453
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 3: He hates all the attention around it. I think when

454
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,880
Speaker 3: he was asked about the parade and he's the staffer

455
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: said oh, it's on Thursday, and he put his head

456
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: in his hands and he goes, oh, oh, I know,

457
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: I gotta go home. I gotta go home. He goes, no,

458
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 3: you can go home on Friday. He goes, Okay. I

459
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: mean I think I think he's excited to be with

460
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,679
Speaker 3: his teammates. He just despises everything around.

461
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 4: Sure.

462
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: Sure.

463
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 3: Like then he was asked about it being the best

464
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: Serbian year for sports in history, and he said, yeah, actually,

465
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 3: let me check my phone and he went to go

466
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 3: see if Djokovic had texted him, and he goes, oh, motherfuck.

467
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 3: I like how he said mother funk As he looked

468
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: as his phone. He said, oh, I got to turn

469
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 3: this thing off. Too many texts. He just hates people,

470
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 3: and that's why he was trying to get away from

471
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 3: the celebrates. I think he likes his teammates. But he

472
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 3: just he just hates everything around it, and maybe that's

473
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: the end, the way the dynasty ends. He just says,

474
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 3: I'm done with this stuff. I'm going back. I'm going

475
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 3: back to Serbia and I'm not playing.

476
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: You want to make them happy, you fly in all

477
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: the horses from Serbia for the parade. No busses, no

478
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: pickup trucks, none of that, all horses. Every single player

479
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: on a horse in this parade. He wouldn't stop smiling,

480
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: he'd be ecstatic, he would never want to leave. You

481
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: just got to get those horses over here. So can

482
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: we put horses on a private jet? Why not.

483
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 4: The private jets? I don't know, man, they get around somewhere.

484
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so bring them over.

485
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: I was happy that he had that pool moment because

486
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: I want somebody to be happy after they win a championship.

487
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 4: Like I do.

488
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: Think it's funny the way he was acting, But I'm like,

489
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: come on, man, you're at the top of the game

490
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 2: right now. You should be you should be enjoying it

491
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: a little bit here. So I was happy to see

492
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 2: that in private he actually was.

493
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

494
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe how upset I was that he wasn't

495
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: dominantly placed in like the group team photos after, like

496
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: where they're obviously holding the lob. I don't know why

497
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: it was bugging me. It was like, somebody tell him

498
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: to at least get up into the middle and hold

499
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: the trophy for one photo. It's like it's like us

500
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: when we were twelve years old at like a family

501
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: gathering and it's like, okay, let's get the family together

502
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: and take a photo. And like, you know, you're a

503
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: moody twelve year old, you want nothing to do with it,

504
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: but your mom would be like, you're taking get up

505
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: here and you're smiling, and then you can go play

506
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: your video games and play sports.

507
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: But he's just like way in the back corner.

508
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: But it's cute as hell with his kid. I mean,

509
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: his kid was like the coolest cucumber there is.

510
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 3: It's not who he is, just giving the rest of

511
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 3: the team to shine. But I think the finals was

512
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: warmed out. I mean from even before game one. He

513
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: was just surprised by all the media. Wanted each game

514
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 3: to start. Was said basically before game two, He's like

515
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: enough what the questions? Essentially like I'm tired of all this.

516
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: He just wanted to play basketball, and so as soon

517
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 3: as it was done, he was exhausted.

518
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what his brothers are going

519
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: to do in this parade though. Those guys. The video

520
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: of them throwing Michael Malone around like a child, gold gold, gold, gold.

521
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: Anything else from the postgame festivities or the game.

522
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: Itself, Jamal Murray was pretty emotional. I thought he was

523
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: in tears basically right away. I didn't necessarily peg him

524
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: as a crier, but he's obviously been holding things in

525
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 2: with the injury he's in the way. People have been

526
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: calling him Bubble Murray. Now you gotta call him Championship Murray. Basically,

527
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: after you win the title, everybody's nickname gets upgraded to

528
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: Champion because now Uncle Jeff Green wants everybody to call

529
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: him Uncle Champ Green. So instead of Big Honey, it's

530
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: Big Champion.

531
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Speaker 1: Okay. It's pretty wild when you think about how this

532
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: Nuggets team was assembled. Yokich's I don't think it's an

533
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: exaggeration to say he's the greatest draft pick in NBA history,

534
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: going forty first overall, winning two MVPs, and obviously bringing

535
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: the Denver n gets their first championship. Now Murray selected

536
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: seventh in the twenty sixteen draft, a pick that came

537
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: from the Knicks in their Camelo Anthony trade at the

538
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: twenty eleven deadline. Yeah, that's a weird one. Michael Porter

539
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: Junior falling to fourteenth in the twenty eighteen draft, A

540
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: lot of it because of the back issues, which obviously

541
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: you know slowed his NBA career. Here Aaron Gordon, they

542
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: got him in the Orlando Magic fire sale from a

543
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: couple of years back, when Vooch goes to the Bulls

544
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: and Aaron Gordon goes to the Nuggets. Nobody wanted Bruce

545
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: Brown for whatever reason in free agency, so they grab him.

546
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: And KCP really a contributor as well, coming from the

547
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: Wizards in that Monte Morris and Will Barton sort of

548
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: role player swapped.

549
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: There.

550
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys instrumental in the Nuggets championship

551
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: team there. But yeah, you'll catch at the forty first

552
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: pick of the twenty fourteen draft during a Taco bell commercial. Now,

553
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: he's one of the greatest.

554
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 2: Case of rito. He outlasted the case arito. It's not

555
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: even on the menu anymore.

556
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 3: Is somebody dug up that when they're talking about him.

557
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 3: On ESPN. I think it was during an E E

558
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 3: MVP something or other when he won an m VP

559
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: that the highlights they were showing were use off Nurkic highlights.

560
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: Signed his max deal, sign deal by accidents, well obviously, yeah, yeah,

561
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 2: but it was definitely Nurkic's highlights from the Blazers. Yeah,

562
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: not from when he was on the Nuggeting gets a

563
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: little bit there.

564
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: That was confusing though, at the beginning of their careers.

565
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: Nirkic. Yeah, yeah, two big guys for sure. All right, Well, look,

566
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: unless you guys have it anything else that you want

567
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: to chime in here about.

568
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: MPJ Man, what a game for that guy. Three assists. Yeah,

569
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: it's not a career high, I checked, but it felt

570
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: like a career high. And they were probably like the

571
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: three best passes he's had in the NBA. The one

572
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: coming down the lane finding Jamal.

573
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 4: Murray in the corner. Who is this man?

574
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 3: It's great? That was awesome, nearly a season high, but

575
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 3: you know, four is the season high. That was a

576
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: big night.

577
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 4: He had a six game in the playoffs. Yeah, I

578
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: don't know what happened there.

579
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: He had a couple like higher assists in a game

580
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: than I thought. In the play were and.

581
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 4: Straight up played. Man, he was a plus in the finals.

582
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: He had a block.

583
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon had a block with his armpit.

584
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Kyle Lowry, he so the heat fans out there.

585
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: What a season? I mean, what a postseason run as

586
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: the eight seeds, you know, surprising all of these teams

587
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: with these upsets they had. The Miami he had more

588
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: four game win streaks in the playoffs than they did

589
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: in the regular season. They had two in the playoffs

590
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: and they had one in the regular season. That is

591
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: just nuts. And they just shot so poorly through the

592
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: regular season and then obviously we're one of the best

593
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: shooting teams until the finals until they ran into the

594
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. What a year, though, I mean, I mean,

595
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: I know, we have a lot of time to break

596
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: down what they'll do next, and we can probably save

597
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: that for later this week. Do they have to or

598
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: want to make another big move? There's obviously a million

599
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: Damian Lillard like rumors, and he's talked about, Hey, I'd

600
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: go there as long as they don't win a championship,

601
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: which they didn't. But what a year. I don't know

602
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: if you have any thoughts on the heat and just

603
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: surprising us time and time again here in the postseason.

604
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: You said it, it was an incredible run as an

605
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: eight seed. I mean it started in that first round.

606
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: The way they it's it's hard to think back to

607
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 3: what they did in Game five, but that was probably

608
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: the craziest game of the playoffs. They went into overtime

609
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: with the Jimmy Butler alley out there where he pushed

610
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 3: off Drew Holiday and threw it in and I was

611
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: a bonker's fourth quarter in overtime. Yeah, it was an

612
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 3: incredible run. As I sort of said at the beginning,

613
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler having to do it as the guy over

614
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: and over and over again was tough, and he said

615
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: in his postgame press conference, I truly do believe that

616
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna do this year in Miami. He said he's

617
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: had hell of a teammates come through and help him,

618
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: and maybe he's saying he just needs a hell of

619
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: a one more teammate to kind of help him get

620
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: there at the end.

621
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: The Entyler hero throughout the entire postseason, or he's the

622
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: trade piece for whatever potential uh you know, contributing players

623
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: coming back there. Look, they're close and that was. I mean,

624
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: they took down Giannis. They obviously take call of the Knicks.

625
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: They sort of like crushed the Celtics obviously went to

626
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: seven into the weird series. What a weird one that was.

627
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: And then yeah, oh classed. I think like it felt

628
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: like the Nuggets were gonna beat any team that they

629
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: saw from the Eastern Conference. I mean, if the Celtics

630
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: had gotten there, I think people would have been taking

631
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: the Nuggets and I think they would have beaten them.

632
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, is it closer, who knows, But still

633
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: an incredible year here from Jimmy Bam and uh and

634
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat and spill there an.

635
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: You're right test they might have played the like the

636
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: two craziest games in the playoffs this year that Bucks

637
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: win in Game five that was a crazy one with

638
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: the Jimmy play and then the Derek White tip against

639
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: the Celtics as well, which like they had that one

640
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: one with Jimmy making a hard charge there at the

641
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: end of Game six before the Derek White tip and

642
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: so big shout out to the Heat. We made our

643
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: picks for the first round before the Heat even punched

644
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: their ticket into out of the playing tournament. Where like,

645
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: it does not matter whoever the Bucks play, They're taking

646
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: this one easily. I picked a sweep, didn't matter. I

647
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: thought it was gonna be the Bulls almost.

648
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: Was yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, they barely got into

649
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, let's not forget that, losing to the

650
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Speaker 1: Hawks obviously in the first playing game, and then coming

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Speaker 1: back very late against your Chicago Bulls to actually get

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Speaker 1: in there. And then yeah they were helped out a

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Speaker 1: little bit of course with the honest injury, but took

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Speaker 1: care of business and kept rolling all the way through.

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Speaker 1: And that's it for you. Dannis Haslim as well, it's

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Speaker 1: a career.

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Speaker 4: Call it a career.

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Speaker 1: I mean he talked about it. If you saw any

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Speaker 1: of his comments, like how like sort of like a

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Speaker 1: cool way to go out. I mean, what a magical

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Speaker 1: run here. It would have been better with a championship,

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Speaker 1: but pretty impressive. We gotta take a break when we

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Speaker 1: come back. NBA News, don't go anywhere all right, g

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Speaker 1: D forgot there was only one ad there.

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Speaker 3: I would think, cut me off guard a.

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Speaker 1: Little, okay. Other NBA news, Raptors guard Fred van Vliet

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Speaker 1: has declined his player option for next season. He is

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Speaker 1: set to become an unrestricted free agent. He was set

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Speaker 1: to make twenty two point eight million in the final

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Speaker 1: year of his four years, eighty five million dollar deal,

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Speaker 1: which I did forget biggest contracts signed by an undrafted

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Speaker 1: player in NBA history. He had until Wednesday, though, to

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Speaker 1: decide whether he was opting in or out of his option.

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Speaker 1: It's not a surprise test that he that he opted

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Speaker 1: out and he's going to test unrestricted pre agency. But

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Speaker 1: what does this mean for the chances of the Raptors

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Speaker 1: keeping Van Fleet or do they want to or do

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Speaker 1: you think he's going somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: I think they're moving on. I think it's it was

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Speaker 3: a great run, but I think after they didn't come

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Speaker 3: to an agreement last summer where he would have signed

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Speaker 3: an even bigger deal for an undrafted free agent, and

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Speaker 3: this season not going too well just between him and

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Speaker 3: the management, I think he would just he would like

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Speaker 3: a new start, and it seems like the Raptors also

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Speaker 3: are going to try and get something for him, whether

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Speaker 3: it's in a sign and trade. It's an interesting scenario

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Speaker 3: because he's young enough to kind of fit with the

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Speaker 3: teams that have a lot of salary caper room like

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Speaker 3: the Rockets, the Magic to some degree, but he would

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Speaker 3: fit more on let's say the Phoenix Suns can work

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Speaker 3: out some sort of side in trade somewhere where he

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Speaker 3: would actually be a part for you know, as a

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Speaker 3: as a complimentary to superstaryes type part. But he's going

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Speaker 3: to get more than that twenty two point eight. So

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Speaker 3: it's you know, he's going to bet on himself here

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Speaker 3: and he's going to get a big contract.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, he should opt out of his contract and try

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Speaker 2: and make some money here because, like you're saying, he's

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Speaker 2: twenty nine years old, thirty during the next season, this

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Speaker 2: is probably his last big deal, and it's quite likely

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Speaker 2: Fred van Vliet is the best player that changes teams

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Speaker 2: in the off season this year. We'll see what happens

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Speaker 2: with Kyrie Irving and James Harden, who are ahead on

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Speaker 2: the boards rating from John Hollinger. But those guys could

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Speaker 2: easily stay put where they are, whereas, like you're saying,

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Speaker 2: tasks Fred van Vliet, you can see him on a

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Speaker 2: contending team. You can see him on a young team

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Speaker 2: like the Magic or the Rockets, who need a veteran

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Speaker 2: that they want that helps them raise up their talent

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Speaker 2: level and just be a little bit more professional. So

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Speaker 2: he's in a pretty nice spot here and kind of

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Speaker 2: will have his choice of where he wants to go.

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Speaker 2: I guess Wosh called him the first major Domino, which

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Speaker 2: I think is true from a league standpoint, And it's

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Speaker 2: also going to be interesting to see from a Raptor

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Speaker 2: standpoint because if Fred leaves, then I think it becomes

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Speaker 2: quite obvious that their new coach is the rebuilding coach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wojh in his article said there were several contending

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Speaker 1: teams who discuss Van Vliet trade deadline deals with the Raps.

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Speaker 1: Those conversations could be revisited now here in free agency.

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Speaker 1: At the time, if you go back to the deadline,

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of teams rumored to be interested

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Speaker 1: in Van Vliet and services. You know, you had the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: the Clippers, the Wolves, the MAVs, the Suns, like you said,

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Speaker 1: their tasks. I felt like in the East it was

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Speaker 1: you know, the Magic and there was some Wizards talk

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Speaker 1: and maybe even the Heat at one point. But there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of teams that could use a Van Vliet. Now,

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Speaker 1: at thirty million per year, there's less teams maybe so

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Speaker 1: inclined to want to give him that type of deal.

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Speaker 1: But those young young squads that you said, there's no

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Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that I Van Vliet was added

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Speaker 1: to them. They're they're jumping up in terms of the

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Speaker 1: win Callum like he can take a team that's been very,

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Speaker 1: very bad for a while too. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: knocking on play indoor or even into the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: think he's that type of game changer, just the way

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Speaker 1: he plays and now Hardy plays them defensively and stuff

740
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Speaker 1: like that. But we'll see if it's you know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people think the Suns or the Sixers, you know,

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Speaker 1: depending on what happens with James Harden. So maybe pairing

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Speaker 1: back up with Nick Nurse, which would be funny, or

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Speaker 1: one of these, yeah, teams that just have all his

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Speaker 1: cap space and that could afford him and want to

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Speaker 1: win some games, like the Rockets come to mind for sure.

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Speaker 3: And as Trey was saying, he's become a free agent

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Speaker 3: at the right time, like this is a good year

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Speaker 3: for Fred Vamps in terms of how many guards are

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Speaker 3: out there that are game changers. I kind of want

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Speaker 3: to see him as a as a third piece on

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Speaker 3: a great team to help out win a championship instead

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Speaker 3: of having to take on a huge role and hopefully

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Speaker 3: his body would hold up like if he was a

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Speaker 3: if he was with the Phoenix Suns this year, an

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Speaker 3: entirely different playoff run if they could, if they could

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Speaker 3: somehow get him, I don't know how that works, to

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Speaker 3: be honestly, and to be honest, in a sign and

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00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: trade scenario, that would be difficult for the Sons to

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00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: give enough to the Raptors. But we saw what happened

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Speaker 3: with Kyle Lowry dealt to the Miami Heat in a

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Speaker 3: sign and trade that ended up being precious at you

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Speaker 3: and Goran drags, so you get less on the dollar

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Speaker 3: in a side in trade scenario. If Matt Ishbia can

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Speaker 3: figure something out, you know, sweet in the pot when

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Speaker 3: you get there type thing. But yeah, it also depends

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Speaker 3: what happens with the other Rockets if they swing and

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Speaker 3: miss somewhere else, and they could give Van Vliet a

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Speaker 3: ton if they don't get.

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Speaker 1: Hard moving on. According to Shams, the Pelicans are expected

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Speaker 1: to aggressively pursue a top pick, potentially second or third,

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Speaker 1: in the upcoming NBA Draft because they want G League

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Speaker 1: nightguard Scoot Henderson. That's who the Pels have their eye on.

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Speaker 1: According to Shams, they currently have the number fourteenth pick

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Speaker 1: in the draft. This sort of came out of nowhere

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Speaker 1: there yesterday TK about the Pels they want Scoot, So

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Speaker 1: what's it gonna take and can they get them or

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Speaker 1: no chance here?

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Speaker 2: They could definitely get them. They've got young players who

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Speaker 2: are tradable, They've got future picks that are tradeable from

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Speaker 2: the Anthony Davis and Drew Holiday deals in the past.

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Speaker 2: They've got a Lakers pick in either twenty four or

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Speaker 2: twenty five, a Bucks pick in twenty five or twenty seven. Somehow,

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Speaker 2: the Pelicans keep picking in the lottery even after they

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Speaker 2: drafted Zion Williamson. They're in the lottery for the fifth

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Speaker 2: straight year. So that's crazy to me. But I imagine

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Speaker 2: the second or third pick, the Hornets or the Trailblazers

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Speaker 2: are going to be more interested in getting picks from

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Speaker 2: the Pelicans then they would be their young players. Just

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Speaker 2: because I can't imagine that Zion's going to be in

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Speaker 2: the deal or Brandon Ingram would be in the deal.

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Speaker 2: This seems more like you would want to add Scoot

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Speaker 2: to those two guys to be your big.

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Speaker 4: Three going forward.

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Speaker 2: Getting a young guy in on a contract like Scoot

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Speaker 2: would be would probably be big time for the Pelicans,

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Speaker 2: considering Zion's going to be making a ton of money,

798
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: Ingram's going to be making a ton of money, and

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Speaker 2: we got this new CBA coming in, and honestly, maybe

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Speaker 2: it's a little bit of a contingency plan for Zion

801
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Speaker 2: considering he hasn't really been able to stay on the

802
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: court in his NBA season, in his NBA career here.

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Speaker 4: That'll be interesting to see, though.

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Speaker 2: It feels like we're going to get a big Draft

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Speaker 2: Night trade from somewhere, just with the teams that are

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00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: moved up into two and three.

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Speaker 1: If you're the Hornets and David Griffin and the pelse

808
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Speaker 1: call you and say we'll trade you Zion, we want

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Speaker 1: the number two pick, we want Scoot. Would you do

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Speaker 1: it if you're Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, Zion played at Duke, would you do it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think I think if that's

813
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: if that's part of the deal. MJ in the front

814
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Speaker 3: office are just absolutely yearning for the day they get

815
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Speaker 3: a superstar on their team. They've they've they've been looking

816
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: to get like a super duperstar forever, and they just

817
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: they keep picking on the lottery and they've got Lamello.

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00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: It wouldn't make sense to get somebody who's not a

819
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: ball handling card anyway. Yeah, Zion, Yeah for sure. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: But as far as this, as far as the Pelicans go,

821
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Speaker 3: if there's a deal there, I mean it makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I think that David Griffin would go all in, going

823
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 3: back to his Cavs days and Lebron forcing him to

824
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 3: go all in year after year after year. This would

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00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: be going all in. You traded for CJ. McCollum, trading

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Speaker 3: multiple picks. You've obviously got Zilon, Zion and Brandon Ingram.

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Speaker 3: But if you're Charlotte, you want to pick and a player,

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Speaker 3: right because you've got a second pick in the draft,

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Speaker 3: So you're probably asking for a wing to compliment LaMelo ball,

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Speaker 3: you know, like a Herb Jones or somebody with something

831
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Speaker 3: like that that would they would, I'm sure be excited

832
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Speaker 3: about that. A pick, like to get Herb Jones and

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Speaker 3: the number two pick, or you know, one of one

834
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Speaker 3: of those picks that the Pelicans have to offer, excuse me,

835
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Speaker 3: the Lakers pick or a couple of Bucks picks, plus

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Speaker 3: herb Jones, then we're talking to me.

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Speaker 1: I felt like this report here from Sham's was David

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Speaker 1: Griffin and the Pels telling the rest of the league like,

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Speaker 1: call me, call us, we want to be aggressive here,

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Speaker 1: we want to make moves. We have a ton of picks,

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Speaker 1: we have a ton of young players. We obviously have

842
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: some you know, budding superstars here in Zion. If you

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Speaker 1: can stay healthy and obviously brandon Ingram, we're open for

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Speaker 1: business here. So I think, like, yeah, the headline is

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Speaker 1: they want Scoop, but I also think it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: hear what else you other teams, the other twenty nine

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Speaker 1: teams that maybe want to get into the draft or

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Speaker 1: want some of these young talents and are moving off

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Speaker 1: another player, like call us, we're available to talk. That's

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Speaker 1: sort of what I'm reading here, because I also don't

851
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Speaker 1: think I don't know if you have a take on

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Speaker 1: I know we're not like diehard draft guys here, but

853
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Speaker 1: like there's been so many rumors that's like the Pelican

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Speaker 1: excuse me, the Blazers, what will they do? They're gonna

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Speaker 1: get scooed at three? I think Scoot's going to the

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Speaker 1: Hornets at two. I don't think any of this is

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Speaker 1: true that they're actually focused on Brandon Miller Moore because

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00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: of like they're worried about us an overlap in guard

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Speaker 1: play because you have LaMelo and Scoots, like, you are

860
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Speaker 1: not in the position to be worrying about that.

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Speaker 4: They should not.

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Speaker 1: They should not be, So I've always believed Scoot will

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Speaker 1: go to But yeah, that's my take on this whole

864
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,959
Speaker 1: thing from the Pelican side of things, because they got

865
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: they have paths that they can go here and packages

866
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: that they could put together that are pretty enticing. With

867
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: a lot of these young players in Herb and Trey

868
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Murphy and all that, like some good talent on that team.

869
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely some good talent, But I don't think you're

870
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: getting the better player from the Pelicans than Scoot. Like,

871
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: if those guys were as hot as we're talking about

872
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: right now, they probably would be the top three draft

873
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: pick as well. And I don't think they will go

874
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: top three in this draft, So I don't know. It

875
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: feels like Scoot is dropping a little bit from two

876
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: to three. He was kind of like known as the

877
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: number two guy. Now it feels like he's number three.

878
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people are big enough Brandon Miller, since

879
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: he's got the size and the shooting ability, which makes

880
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: the third pick feel very gettable. I think at this

881
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: point in time, considering where the Blazers are at with

882
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard and wanting to pick a path here, try

883
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: and be competitive once again or or not, so we shall.

884
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 3: See j E. Scoots, I want to change your name.

885
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: Sure, I love Scoot Henderson. I'm high on him.

886
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 3: To Jules Evelyn for that.

887
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: Good good I mean, I guess the final thought of

888
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: this is, you know, Zion Williamson's had some interesting off

889
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: court drama this offseason, and what do the Pelicans think

890
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: of him and his commitment to obviously staying healthy and

891
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: playing and you know what he's doing in the off season, Like,

892
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: how do they feel about him? Honestly? As like as

893
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: a franchise guy? Has that diminished a little bit over

894
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: these last couple of seasons? And that is he potentially

895
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: available here? Could Could someone come in another team and say, yeah,

896
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: we'll take Zion Wimson off your hands. I don't know.

897
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that far fetched, right.

898
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll trade Zion not right now. I mean,

899
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: his value is probably the lowest it's been since he's

900
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: been a Pelicans. Considering the contract he's on and the

901
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: injuries troubles, He's had not to mention anything off court,

902
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: but he's played one hundred and fourteen games in four seasons.

903
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: That's it, Yeah, exactly. Unfortunately every other NBA team is

904
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: aware of that too.

905
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

906
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: Final piece of news here. In a recent interview with

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00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: Bali Sports, Lebron James explained why he has never felt

908
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: eager to take part in the NBA Dunk Contest. He

909
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: said it was simply never one of his goals. Didn't

910
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: have it on his vision board or whatever you call those.

911
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 4: Quote.

912
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it was something I wanted to accomplish

913
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: in my career. It's not a goal of mine, and

914
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: it never was coming into the NBA to be part

915
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: of the Dunk Contest. You know, making the NBA All

916
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: Star Team was being the league MVP winning Defensive Player

917
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: of the Year. He has won, that has he winning

918
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: NBA championships. Those were some goals of mine. The NBA

919
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: Dunk Contest was never a goal of mine, So it

920
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: wasn't something that I had too much passion for. End quote.

921
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: Lebron talking about the dunk contest. Well, he suddenly turned

922
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: into the Alonzo Morning meme. There you were like, suck.

923
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: Maybe you can't deny it. He never was in the

924
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: dunk contest. The passion must not have been there.

925
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: Well, he told us he was gonna go in it

926
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: one year.

927
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: The passion was there for a few minutes. It was

928
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: caught up in the moment. Uh, I don't know.

929
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: I went back and watched Lebron's high school dunk contest.

930
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: Seemed like he had the passion back then, but maybe

931
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: just wanted the McDonald's one guess.

932
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: So what year was that? Where he is at All

933
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: Star weekend and he basically says.

934
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm going nine dunk contests, saying I'll be in a

935
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: twenty test.

936
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: Right in Dallas, in the big Arena, in the big

937
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: stadium there, but then didn't.

938
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, inspired by Dwighton Nate Robinson, Right, he got caught

939
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: up in the moment exactly like this is cool.

940
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 3: He saw the competition. He saw I can take Dwight,

941
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 3: I can take Nate rob I got this. Why is

942
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: he talking to Bally Sports? Now, go go chill out.

943
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: Why it's so weird?

944
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: June Interviews, lamm I saw it was at the twenty

945
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: four Hours of Lamon true he was.

946
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: I guess he had nothing to do is driving for.

947
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: For well this is there, you know, the the the

948
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: not famous by any means, but there's a stephen A.

949
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: Smith clip from not that long ago, I think where

950
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: he said Lebron ruined the dunk contest because he never

951
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: would go in it and especially teased us way back

952
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: in the day that he's going to it and then didn't.

953
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: Steed, he ruined. Yes, he didn't go in it.

954
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think stephen A trying to make the

955
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: point like you know, Jordan went in these things. You know,

956
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: it is a showcase for the league, like your superstars

957
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: going in it is a big deal and you are, yeah,

958
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: you are one of the greatest dunkers too. You know

959
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: in game at least you could have gave it life

960
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: and then you elected not to and that then had

961
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: a bit of an effect on other people maybe not

962
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: going in it. That you know that stephen A's hypothesis

963
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: with this that he ruined it.

964
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: Yes, it's been a while since superstars have really gone

965
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 3: and it's it's been a minute, but yeah, Lebron could

966
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: have had you know, carried the torch that Kobe did

967
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: as well. I mean, I get it. Yeah, that's some degree.

968
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: But then guys like Zach Lavine and Aaron Gordon made

969
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: it super cool for a minute.

970
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: It was cool, it was good, it was live Lebron.

971
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: If Lebron was younger in his career during the Levine

972
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: and Gordon dunk contest, he Lebron would have said, I'm

973
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 2: gonna be in it next year because.

974
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: It was cool mm interesting, But he wouldn't have gone in.

975
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 4: No, No, he would have said he was going in.

976
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because he's also like the most calculated, so

977
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: he's like exact gonna be able to beat those guys

978
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: like as great as Lebron is, and he is an

979
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: incredible dunker, especially obviously when he was younger, some of

980
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: these guys he would not have beaten. I don't think.

981
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: I don't think so, unless he's got a whole bunch

982
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: of dunks.

983
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 4: We don't.

984
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: We're not aware of who was in the what was

985
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: the two thousand and four dunk contest?

986
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 4: He would have won.

987
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: He should have went in what was on his rookie season,

988
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: Fred Jones, Chris Anderson, Ricky Davis, Fred Jones, and Jason

989
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: Richardson Richard Jason Richard, that would been nice battle. I

990
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: don't think he won that one though, right, Fred Jones Jones,

991
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: which is what I'm saying Lebron would have won by entering. Yeah,

992
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: they're gonna grate him on a curve, man, that's true.

993
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: Think about Blake Griffin. He didn't win the Dunk Contest,

994
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 2: but he won the Dunk Contest.

995
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: Okay, he's the number one pick.

996
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: Do you think it'd be fair if Lebron went in

997
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: it next year that we grate him on a curve

998
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: because he's will be thirty nine years old. Yeah, we

999
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: give him like an extra I think I think I

1000
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: think Lebron would be a guaranteed finalist if he went

1001
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: in the Dunk Contest next year, Hung Layups, Yeah.

1002
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: Maybe probably maybe.

1003
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: All Right, Well, I know a lot of people are

1004
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: passionate about this, Lebron never going in a dunk contest.

1005
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure you got some thoughts on that one. Anything else,

1006
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: guys from the NBA world that I missed that we

1007
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: need to talk about. We're not going anywhere this week,

1008
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: by the way. We're going to figure out our schedule

1009
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: after this show, but we're gonna have some beach step in,

1010
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: So get your questions in No Dunks, Inc. I n

1011
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: c on Twitter at No Dunksinc. Or email them at

1012
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com. You know we'll

1013
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: be hitting the beach for some cues. But yeah, anything else.

1014
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: I'd like to hear Cheryl Miller's thoughts on Lebron not

1015
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: in getting the dunk contest.

1016
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: She did have the scoop, right, I mean that was.

1017
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: We had the scoop. Yeah.

1018
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: I just thought of one thing, going back to the

1019
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: finals here in the season, fifty eight wedgies O. We

1020
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: tied the all time record. Not bad. Hey, that's a

1021
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: great year. Incredible fifty eight. Obviously rdular season and playoffs

1022
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: slowed down. In the playoffs task you kept saying, that's

1023
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: what happens, man, and it did. We only had four.

1024
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: We didn't have a wedgie in the month of May,

1025
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: bad month. It was a drought. We got one there

1026
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: from Jamal Murray in June, but otherwise four in the playoffs.

1027
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: Fifty eight overall, I thought we thought it was the

1028
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: year we're gonna set the all time record, maybe even

1029
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: flirt with sixty. I'll take some Roger Merris sixty one vibes.

1030
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: But next year, yeah, four in the playoffs isn't terrible. No, No,

1031
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: it's pretty good. Actually won every twenty games. It's hot.

1032
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 3: That's a hot that's a hot rate. You gotta be honest,

1033
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 3: it's a hot rate. That's pretty good. We've had more.

1034
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: But fifty eight, Wow, twenty twenty one, that was a season.

1035
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 1: What would you set the line for Weggies next season?

1036
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: At? Though?

1037
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: Uh?

1038
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: Set the line everybody forgets going into next season, Like

1039
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: everybody's not gonna remember how many were this season because

1040
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: I even forget, and I have a list in front

1041
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: of me right here. So I think the line every

1042
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 3: year is forty nine point five.

1043
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so interesting to hit that at fifty Yeah,

1044
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna go a little higher. I

1045
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: don't know why. I thought you were gonna give me

1046
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: like a fifty two and a half.

1047
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: But like, great law, that's right, right, more scoring, more

1048
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: three point shots?

1049
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: We got to take your ball. I don't know what's

1050
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, more three point shots is a big one.

1051
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: How do you feel about going into next year? Can

1052
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: we do it? Can we beat fifty eight? Can we

1053
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: hit sixty?

1054
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen too. We're not going to hit

1055
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: sixty next year, but we're gonna go over fifty. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, okay,

1056
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: that's fine. We gotta take one more break. It's gonna

1057
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: be a quick one. JD one Ad will be right

1058
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: back with three of the Night. All right back with

1059
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: the boys in the Classic Factory.

1060
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: And wow, Jerome doing some photoshop work. I don't even

1061
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: want to be around anymore. That was Yo kich Aka

1062
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: Carl Havoc after the game and after the finals ended.

1063
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: He really did not want to be around it. That's good.

1064
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: That's good. Tweet that out, Jerome. Watch the likes and

1065
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: the retweet last Yeah, good good stuff here.

1066
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: I gotta say I liked the championship hats, giant champions

1067
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: so bigot wrapped a three quarters of the way around

1068
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: your head, and the shirts I thought were awesome, Like

1069
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: those were some of the best championship recently. It was

1070
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: a cool shirt that happened to be a championship shirt.

1071
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right, because usually they're brutal. Yeah, man,

1072
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: they really loved just a large fought on any of

1073
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: their stuff. You can see it from a mile away.

1074
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: Then you were champions that year. They always do that.

1075
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: Let's get to tweet of the night.

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Speaker 4: Wow, a couple of tweets of the night. I'll be

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Speaker 4: honest with you. One of them is from the night.

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Speaker 4: One of them is from the day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'm still here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's my mosquites of the day right there, tweeted

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Speaker 4: the knight.

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Speaker 2: First one comes from Jasmine Watkins, my favorite Celebrations tweet

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Speaker 2: still here.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere, man, I'm right here. I ain't

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Speaker 1: going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Of the many of the many jokes, this is the

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Speaker 2: first one I saw this Jasmine, who says Jokic said

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Speaker 2: it's the photo of Joki drinking.

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Speaker 4: Is michelob Ultra.

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Speaker 2: Looking exactly like the they don't know I'm et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Meme from a party, even holding the.

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Speaker 2: Drink the exact same way. It's too good. He's standing perfectly.

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Speaker 2: The only question is like they don't know I'm an

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Speaker 2: NBA champion, or they.

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Speaker 4: Don't know I'm obsessed with horse racing.

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Speaker 2: Which would he be saying? I think people would probably

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Speaker 2: know the seven foot guy is at least the basketball player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think it's the horse lover.

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Speaker 4: I think that's what's the horse?

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Speaker 1: What the caption is?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I love horses. Everybody else is saying, yeah, man, you

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Speaker 2: won't stop talking.

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Speaker 1: Do you play basketball?

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Speaker 4: So that was the tweet of the night.

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Speaker 1: Now is that a bit? Are you making this a

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Speaker 1: bit now? Or are you really struggling over there? That

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Speaker 1: was a bit okay, but I am struggling. You take

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Speaker 1: one day off and you get a little rust on

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Speaker 1: one day.

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Speaker 3: I worked all afternoon. You know what.

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Speaker 1: I was pushing the buttons over there yesterday. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was killing it. I think you're just pumping over that's

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Speaker 1: very pumped. Okay, great, anything else.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little nervous to go to tweet number two.

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Speaker 4: I saw skames real quick. Here I got a second tweet.

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Speaker 4: This one comes from my good friend Pat say Jack. Well,

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Speaker 4: the time has come.

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Speaker 2: I've decided that our forty first season, which begins in September,

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Speaker 2: would be my last. It's been a wonderful ride, and

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Speaker 2: I'll have more to say in the coming months. Many

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Speaker 2: thanks to you all. If nothing else, it'll keep the

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Speaker 2: clickbait sites busy. Pat Sayjack saying goodbye to Wheel of Fortune.

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Speaker 1: What did you mean by that last line? I was

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Speaker 1: confused by that clickbait line.

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Speaker 2: All I can guess is that maybe it's like he's

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Speaker 2: expecting clickbait sites to start doing who takes over Wheel

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Speaker 2: of Fortune next, you know, the same way they did

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Speaker 2: after Alex Trebek was done a Jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, there.

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Speaker 2: Was a lot of clicks around that time, more clicks

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Speaker 2: on a wheel though.

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Speaker 1: But okay, I mean no offense, but there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some offense here, Like Alex Trebek moving on from Jeopardy

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Speaker 1: way bigger deal than Pat Sajack moving on from the

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Speaker 1: wheel Homer Pick. It's not because he's Canadian. It's just

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's my thoughts on Wheel of

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Speaker 1: Fortue in general. I don't think it's like, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's on the mount rushmore of greatest game shows

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Speaker 1: in NBA. Absolutely, it's not on my it's not on mine.

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Speaker 1: You can't put it on mine. You can't carve his

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Speaker 1: face on my mountain.

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Speaker 3: What you got on there?

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Speaker 1: Well, definitely Jeopardy, Yeah, absolutely, definitely family feud way above.

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Speaker 1: I've had like one hundred hosts, but it's oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying the actual host, I'm saying the game itself,

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Speaker 1: and then I would probably go Prices, right, and it's

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Speaker 1: the fourth one is the tough one, bumper stumpers.

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Speaker 4: See list it up.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, he's in the top three most iconic

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Speaker 2: television house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, game show is a legend, that absolute barker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're right, Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 4: And then probably Woolery is number four.

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Speaker 1: Do you like the game itself? So Wheel of Fortune?

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Speaker 4: Like, are you the hangman guy?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's fine. It's one of the easier games.

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Speaker 2: I think, like you, I would have it behind Jeopardy

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Speaker 2: and Prices rankings. But that doesn't mean it's any less iconic.

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Speaker 2: You know, Paul Pierce is still a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: even though even if you were retired the same year

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Speaker 2: as Dwayne Wade, like I had Dwayne Wade, I head

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Speaker 2: of Paul Pierce. But Paul Pierce is still a legend.

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Speaker 2: Pats A Jack still a legend. Vana White my first

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Speaker 2: ever celebrity crush Love your Shoulders.

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Speaker 3: Entertain is she is she gonna still do it beyond

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Speaker 3: Pat's Ajax still doing it? She should take the host hosting.

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Speaker 4: She's still doing it. Huh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she hasn't announced anything. Pats Ay Jack. You mentioned

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Speaker 3: Dwayn Wade. He's more of a Dwayne Wade than let's

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Speaker 3: say Tim Duncan because he's announcing it before the season.

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Speaker 3: While Oh, Duncan would just walk away, A Duncan would

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Speaker 3: put down the cards, make fun of the last contestant

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Speaker 3: and just walk off and never come back again. More

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Speaker 3: of a Jokic. But he wants this last year of adulation,

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Speaker 3: a little victory lap around the wheel. I got you,

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Speaker 3: I got youa R S t LN love me. You know,

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Speaker 3: not great, but whatever.

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Speaker 1: What's Pat Sajack's most iconic moment.

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Speaker 3: You're right, you're making the click.

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Speaker 4: I am iconic PATA moments.

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Speaker 1: What I can't think of one, but I know they're

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Speaker 1: out there. I know they're out there, all right, great

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Speaker 1: tweets there, a little little basketball and a little game show. H.

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Speaker 2: Pat Sajack's most iconic moments are people guessing, like ridiculous answers.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, excuse me, Like when it looks

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Speaker 1: like it's something like Mary Horny or graphic or something,

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Speaker 1: and then it's yeah, those are funny, but it's got

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Speaker 1: nothing on the feud, Like when the feud just really

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Speaker 1: learned leaned into being just like crass. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and like if like instead of like putting, like if

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Speaker 1: an answer was like poop, like you know, it be

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Speaker 1: like turn.

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Speaker 4: In a bowl.

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Speaker 1: It would like just like do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: I know I explained that poorly, but it's just like

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Speaker 1: they just knew it. They knew people loved it. They

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Speaker 1: were like, all right, let's just do it. That's always

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Speaker 1: a fun watch, like the best family feud answers.

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