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The 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: euro atollar oh nine six one, the yen one thirteen 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: point five zero, and seld X Therapeutics of Nita, Massachusetts 26 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: is now down fifty one percent in early trading after 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: saying it will stop a final stage study of an 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: experimental brain cancer vaccine. That's a Bloomberg Business flash. Tom 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: and Michael turn thanks so much. Futures negative nine A 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: bit of a deterioration in the tape on this Monday, 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: it is on Wall Street. The following is from Bloomberg View. 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: Opinions and commentary from Bloomberg columnists. I'm Paula Dwyer, a 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: columnist with Bloomberg View. The Republican establishment, with Mitt Romney 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: in the lead, is hitting back against Donald Trump. Yet 35 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: no matter how many party elders pile on, Trump keeps winning, 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: and poles show forty percent of Republican vote to support him. 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: Let's face it, the Republican elite has lost control of 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: the agenda. To win it back, author and social scientist 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: Charles Murray says the GOP should rethink bedrock policies, including 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: a relentless focus on tax cuts, endless attempts to repeal Obamacare, 41 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: and opposition to improvements in the social safety net. Such 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: ideas are heresy among the Republican elite, yet they'd be 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: good for Trump's supporters, mostly white, non college educated, and 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: lower income voters. They haven't seen wages go up since 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, the factories that once employed them have 46 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: shipped out. Seen through his base, Trump's anti immigrant and 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: anti free trade views makes some sense, yet the GOP 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: has done little to help them. Trump exposes the ineffectiveness 49 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: of Republican policy, but he does so by manipulating and 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: encouraging racial and ethnic animosities. To the condemnation of Mitt 51 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Romney and many other party elders, Let's hope they're not 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: too late. I'm Paula Dwire, a columnist with Bloomberg View. 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: For more commentary in opinion, please go to Bloomberg View 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: dot com. This has been Bloomberg View and bloom Review. 55 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Commentary is comm here in hourly weekdays on Bloomberg Radio. 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: Michael always going to talk to Ian Shepherdson. Yes, it's 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: terrific to have him on with us. And you were 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: talking in as of course the chief economists at Pantheon. 59 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: You were talking before the break about the outlook for 60 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: the economy picking up as the year goes on and 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: for earnings rebounding. But we're not seeing the same thing 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: in corporate earnings. I'm wondering how whether whether the growth 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: pickup actually translates to earnings and whether companies can continue 64 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: to give raises if we don't see earnings rise. Yeah, 65 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: it kind of depends where you are really. I mean, 66 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: if you're a manufacturing exporter and you're selling things to 67 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: Asia and you're competing with export of some other countries, 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: it's going to be very difficult for you because the 69 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: dollars the problem. It's very strong. Um you're suffering weak 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: demand and some of your key markets obviously China's one 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: of them, but others as well, and for you, things 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: are going to be a real struggle. So unfortunately for 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: those sort of businesses, the pick up and wage growth 74 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: which they can't really avoid because they're all competing for 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: the same pool of labor. That's just a margin hit. 76 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: But if you are a domestic facing business, as a 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: service sector business in particular with mostly domestic customers not 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: worried about the strength of the dollar, then for you 79 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 1: it's much more manageable because the pick up and wage growth, 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: of course, just means your customers have got more money 81 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: to spend. Now. It doesn't mean you're going to be 82 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: able to recruit recoup every dollar of extra wage growth, 83 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: because you may lose a bit of market share somebody 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: else might come into your space. But in aggregate it 85 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: should be okay. And so for those businesses, which remember 86 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: are the overwhelming bulk of US corporations in that domestic 87 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: consumer facing space, the wage pressure is not the end 88 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: of the world. But certainly there's a minority of companies 89 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: externally focused dollar sensitive and for those it's going to 90 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: be extremely difficult. It already is extremely difficult. This is 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: not a news story. It's just likely to intensify over 92 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: the course of the year. But I got to say, 93 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that the whole manufacturing sector, which of 94 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: course has most of the export is in it is 95 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: going to perform as badly as it did last year, 96 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: because one of the big drags last year was the 97 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: massive collapse in capital spending in the oil business. And 98 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: that's pretty much over now. You know, it's fallen so 99 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: far that it cannot fall again as far as it 100 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: did last year. We we we've probably taken capex in 101 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: oil from a peak of about two billion annualized down 102 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: to about fifty so it cannot fall as far again. 103 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: And that was a really big hit on manufacturer, so 104 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: less pain from that source. But they're going to have 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: to deal with that wage problem. Yeah. I don't want 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: to catch you by surprise, your ian, but you're so 107 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: good at this. When I look at full and part 108 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: time employment, Joe Molinsky writes it up at Advisor Perspectives, 109 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: and the bottom line is part time employment is better. 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: There's less of it, and we're full time, but part 111 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: time employment is is thirty five higher than it was 112 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: at the bottom. We're thirteen point five million years ago. 113 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: We get up into the twenties and we come back 114 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: to eighteen point two percent, So we've moved from thirteen 115 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: point five percent to eighteen of America. Which way is it? 116 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Is it part time America or are we actually moving 117 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Well, we we are moving in 118 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: the right direction, but there's still an enormous legacy from 119 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: from the crash period which distorted so many of these 120 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: labor market numbers, and not all of them, many of 121 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: them haven't yet reverted to where they were before the 122 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Great crash um. This is a you know, there still 123 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: an awful lot of people in these part time jobs 124 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: who want full time jobs. But at the very same time, 125 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: the surveys of businesses are telling us that they're saying 126 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: they can't find the people they want to hire. And 127 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: this is one of these apparent contradictions that we can't 128 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: really resolve with the data that we've got. I mean, 129 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: why would it be if you've got millions of people 130 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: who want to work full time, they're currently employed. It's 131 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: not like they, you know, dead, be two, I'm going 132 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: to get a job. They've got a job, they want 133 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: to work full time, and at the same time employers 134 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: are saying we can't find the people we want to hire. 135 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: So I don't know whether nobody knows whether this is 136 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: a geographic problem that the people are in the wrong place, 137 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: or whether it's a skills problem. I think that's more likely, 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: or maybe it's a sector problem that you know, we've 139 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: got a lot of people maybe working part time insectors 140 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: where the growth isn't very strong and where growth is 141 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: stronger they don't have the right skills. We don't know, 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: but certainly there's there's several million people who would love 143 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: to have a full time job and several hundred thousand 144 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: companies who want more full time employees. You would think 145 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: it would work out, but it isn't. So something's a 146 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: mismatch somewhere. Well, the one thing that is clear is 147 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: that even with all that, the FED is pretty much 148 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: there with the employment part of their mandate. What do 149 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: you see happening with inflation going forward? Well, here's the thing. 150 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: Janet Yellen said back in December that temporary factors, the 151 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: strong dollar and the drop in oil prices are holding 152 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: down the core PC deflator, which is a FEDS target 153 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: measure of inflation, holding it down between a quarter and 154 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: half a percent. The target too, and the current rate 155 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: the latest state that we have is one point seven, 156 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: So you add back in those temporary factors, and core 157 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: inflation on the fed's own target measure is already at 158 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: two to two and a quarter. The FEDS forecasts don't 159 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: show them reaching that two percent target until the fourth 160 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: quarter of two and a half years from now, and 161 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: yet the very same data that the FED targets are 162 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: showing already using yell AND's own calculations, that the underlying 163 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: rate is already there. This really worries me because I 164 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: think I said that wasn't so rabid in the headlights, 165 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: when confronted with slow down in China, would have been 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: hiking rates much more quickly. And the longer that they 167 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: delay it, and the more they find excuses looking at 168 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: international developments and worries about overseas economies, none of which 169 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: are very much bearing on the U S domestic labor market, 170 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: the more the danger rises that eventually inflation bites them 171 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and they have to catch up very quickly with very 172 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: disruptive and destabilizing right tax. But funny thing is, of 173 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: course that yell And keeps referring to this danger, saying, well, 174 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: if we leave it too long, then we'll have to 175 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: go more quickly, and that could be very damaging. But 176 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: the action that they're taking seems to me to be 177 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: raising the very risk that they're setting out in those 178 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: sort of statements, And I really don't get it. I 179 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: think they're hugely overplaying the danger post by China slowdown, 180 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: and overplaying the danger players by the manufacturing slowdown, which 181 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: is real. No question, manufacturing is very weak, but it's 182 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: a teeny bit of the economy and the rest of 183 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: it's doing much better. And the danger is that that 184 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: tightening in the rest of it is going to catch 185 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: them underwares. And you know, looking at the data by 186 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: their own terms, they're already at the sort of rate 187 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: swear and if your policy should be much nearer and 188 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: neutral and he isn't. Okay, so quickly, here's summarized for us. 189 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: Do you agree with more I heard from Michael McKy, 190 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, my suggesting that with an opinion, But March, 191 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: no decision, next meeting, no decision because there's no press conference. Unfortunately. 192 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: You know, it does look to me like if if 193 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: they don't go in March, and it seems extremely unlikely 194 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: that they're going to move now, um, then June is 195 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: the most likely. And the danger is that by the 196 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: time we get their things have moved on significantly. Uh. 197 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, they're already at their mandate in terms of 198 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: the employment picture. And I think they're very close on 199 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: the inflation front, so I think that that if they 200 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: do wait till June, then they'll be going very rapidly 201 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: after that, and they'll have to be a significant adjustment 202 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: in the markets in terms of thinking about what the 203 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: FED is going to have to do, and it will 204 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: be triggered by the wage numbers, because ultimately it always 205 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: is the added sort of free song, if you like, 206 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: is that the actual inflation, which was supposed to be 207 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: something we didn't have to think about for another two years, 208 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: could also be forcing them to move at the same time. 209 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: And history tells you that when you've got accelerating inflation 210 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: and wages at the same time, things get very messy, 211 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: very quickly. Ian Sherberton is always brilliant. Thank you so much. 212 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: With pan Young Mike, I'm gonna put out on Twitter 213 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: on the part time full time question, Jill miss Lynskey. 214 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: It's important when economic data and reports are constructed by 215 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: a physics and astronomy major from the University of Chicago. 216 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean is that qualifications are what jul mss Lynskey. 217 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: I'll put it. I'll get it out on just super work. 218 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: Rob Low tweeting out Peyton Manning's retirement times perfectly. He 219 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: could step in as a candidate at a broker Republican convention. 220 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: We want IK or whatever the phrase was from fifty 221 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: to Tom Keen and Michael McKee and Peyton man good morning,