WEBVTT - 4. The Sentencing

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<v Speaker 1>Murder on Songbird Road is a production of iHeart Podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>previously on Murder on Songbird Road.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to interview her. I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>factually what her side of the story was.

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<v Speaker 1>Since Mota is still a licensed attorney, he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to meet with Beverly in privacy anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>There were issues with Jade. Jessica would never communicate with Julie.

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<v Speaker 2>She would always go to Mike.

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<v Speaker 1>This strained, if not nonexistent, relationship with Jessica could shed

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<v Speaker 1>some light on the lack of support for Julia in

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<v Speaker 1>the days and hours immediately following the murder.

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<v Speaker 2>And so she's like, I tell Jade, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be gone a couple hours. Just play on your phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be back. She's like, it wasn't unusual for us

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<v Speaker 2>to leave Jaden and Jade.

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<v Speaker 1>In Illinois, it is illegal to leave a child under

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<v Speaker 1>the age of fourteen home alone.

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<v Speaker 2>And she claims that as soon as she pulls the

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<v Speaker 2>storm open that she notices blood in the living room.

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<v Speaker 2>It's somebody clad and all black. It's a man black gloves,

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<v Speaker 2>comes charging at her and then he's got a knife.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the front door. This is word went down

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<v Speaker 2>with the masked marauder for to believe that story.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Lauren brad Pacheco, and this is murder on Songbird Road.

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Beverly's sentencing was set for Friday, the thirteenth of

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty twenty three. Bob Matta and I were in

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<v Speaker 1>Marion to attend it in person.

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<v Speaker 3>The woman found guilty of murdering Jay Beasley will be

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<v Speaker 3>sentenced today. That's happening at the Williamston County Courthouse at

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<v Speaker 3>one this afternoon. It took the jury less than two

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<v Speaker 3>hours to find her guilty on three counts, so first

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<v Speaker 3>degree murder.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So let's figure out what the hawks says.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna head over to HWKS now, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>three hooks in the general vicinity.

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<v Speaker 4>Which one did she go to?

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<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be the one on the Yong Street, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the closest, the closest one.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll be on the Young or Route thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's one, that's two point seven miles on East

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<v Speaker 2>d Young. There's wayet okay, So that's not the one

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<v Speaker 2>five miles on West n Okay, Okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>We're heading there now. And then we're gonna head over.

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<v Speaker 4>What time are you guys going?

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Mada and I were scheduled to sit down with

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly's mother, Renee, and her siblings before the sentence. Sing

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<v Speaker 1>On our way to High Towers home, we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>clock the time it would take us to get from

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<v Speaker 1>the location on Songbird Road where Jade was murdered to

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<v Speaker 1>the Hucks gas station where the prosecution containds Beverly disposed

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<v Speaker 1>of dents. Beverly maintained she was simply tossing dirty diapers

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<v Speaker 1>before turning around and heading home for her credit cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Turn right onto Corey League.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so yeah, we're going the right way. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>if we're to believe the state's theory, she has committed

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<v Speaker 2>the murder at this point, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Has washed up, thoroughly, washed up thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 1>She would have had to have transported stuff, put it

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<v Speaker 1>into a bag.

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<v Speaker 4>And unless she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was about bloody clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she would have been wearing gloves or there

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<v Speaker 1>would be some kind of cross contamination.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and you're you're talking about a either a garbage

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<v Speaker 2>bag or plastic bag filled with bloody clothes and a knife,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm assuming would be poking holes in the plastic bags.

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<v Speaker 2>Just common sense, all right. So we're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>this right the Corey League Road.

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<v Speaker 1>And unless you double or triple wrapped that plastic bag,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have gotten some kind of blood on the

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<v Speaker 1>exterior as you were loading the stuff in it.

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<v Speaker 2>There would have been some kind of biological material somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in this car.

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<v Speaker 1>A pointed out no blood belonging to Jade Beasley was

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<v Speaker 1>found anywhere in Beverly's car. There was a small spec

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<v Speaker 1>found on the wheel attributed to both Beverly and Jade's father, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not surprising given the shared use of the car.

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<v Speaker 4>Back to clocking the drive, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>About three point three miles from the house to the

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<v Speaker 2>gas station. We are three minutes into the drive. You

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<v Speaker 2>still got about two point five miles. It's not as straightaway.

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<v Speaker 2>You're having to slow down. Now. You have to try

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<v Speaker 2>to imagine what would be going through somebody's mind if

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<v Speaker 2>they just committed a brutal homicide like that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you you are a compartmentalized killer, you are thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>look normal, don't attract suspicion, Drive slowly, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get pulled over. And I'm curious it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>like this is a highly policed area back here. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>imagining it's either Marion or the county sheriff is the

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<v Speaker 2>only ones ever back here.

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<v Speaker 1>But also houses are close to the road, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would be aware of dogs or children or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>running out into the road.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't, you wouldn't tear through You're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're not doing seventy five back here for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm going thirty eight maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>And that feels quick, yeah, and appropriate. The rural back

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<v Speaker 1>roads gave into more suburban sprawl as we got closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the young It is a blinking solar stop sign,

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<v Speaker 1>so there must be enough traffic on the road to

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<v Speaker 1>warrant that.

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<v Speaker 2>That looks like a main Thoroughfarewell we just turned off of,

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<v Speaker 2>and this one does as well. It's relatively freshly paved.

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<v Speaker 2>Much more residential housing on this m.

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<v Speaker 1>Street, higher end looking homes.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, newer built as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Like permanent driveways.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I would hazard to guess these were all

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<v Speaker 2>built in the last ten to fifteen years. It looks

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<v Speaker 2>like to me, we're about six minutes into the drive,

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<v Speaker 2>we're about a mile from the gas station.

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<v Speaker 1>And it very much is a little suburban community nestled

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<v Speaker 1>around a cornfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like I can guarantee that at one point this

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<v Speaker 2>was all farm land not too long ago, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we were on the stretch round nine tenths of

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<v Speaker 2>a mile. You can see the Marianne water Tower. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a main thoroughfare door left over here.

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<v Speaker 4>That looks like another church.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't throw a stone without hitting a church. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of churches cast a stone without hitting a church.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 5>In a quarter miles, we're seven times.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting the young the hawkses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're already seven minutes and thirty seconds in

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<v Speaker 1>about making that turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so she's gonna getting her left lane here. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a two lane highway. We're hitting a light. Just beyond

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<v Speaker 2>this light is going to be the Hawks on the left.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, I understand why she would have

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<v Speaker 1>pulled in there to turn around, because now we're in

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<v Speaker 1>a much more commercial, multi lane main road.

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<v Speaker 2>And this makes me feel way better about her story

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<v Speaker 2>because this is the first and only light that we've hit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where she claims that she goes into her

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<v Speaker 2>purse and realizes that she did not have her cards

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<v Speaker 2>with her when she told me the story last night,

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, well, it was like halfway this is

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<v Speaker 2>eyeshot of the Hawks. Yeah, okay, So that makes way

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<v Speaker 2>more sense to me why she would have just continued

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the Hawks for nothing else to turn

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<v Speaker 2>around to go back, you know what I'm saying. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes way more sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>We pulled up along the gas pumps at Hawks where

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Beverly was captured on security cam discarding a small

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<v Speaker 1>plastic bag.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have three lanes of pumps, all of which

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<v Speaker 2>have garbage receeptacles in between the sets of pumps.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we say garbage, I mean we're talking garbage cans.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking a dumpster exactly. But interestingly enough, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that we just pulled up to has contracting debris.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly in it. All right, So took us nine minutes

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen seconds to get here catching that light, which we

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<v Speaker 2>knew she caught the light as well when she realizes

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<v Speaker 2>that she doesn't have her debit card.

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<v Speaker 1>This is important to note because the prosecution contends it

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<v Speaker 1>would have taken Beverly six to seven minutes to make

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<v Speaker 1>the drive. Google Maps approximate seven, but with having to

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<v Speaker 1>wait out the red light. It took us over nine.

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<v Speaker 2>She pulls in, you know, because she has two young

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<v Speaker 2>children who are still pooping in diapers. Occasionally as a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that there are times that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>change the diaper in the car. It happens. So she

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<v Speaker 2>has the bag with the poopy diapers, gets out and

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<v Speaker 2>she's going to I'm assuming opens the back door right

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<v Speaker 2>grabs the diapers. Maybe she reaches around grabs them, and

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<v Speaker 2>then she's gonna go dump right into this receptacle and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have to ask her which one she went to,

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<v Speaker 2>if she went closest to, because I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 2>a walk and see where the camera is.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, but this is a busy, very busy, very busy street.

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<v Speaker 7>Very if you were disposing of bloody clothes and a

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<v Speaker 7>murder weapon, right, would you do it in the broad

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<v Speaker 7>daylight in front of multiple people and by multiple people?

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<v Speaker 4>These are gas pumps. You have somebody five feet away

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<v Speaker 4>from you at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Times we're talking. This is in the morning on December fifth, daylight. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a busy gas station. I mean there's people here,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, a lot of traffic, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of foot traffic, people getting in out of their vehicles.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm going to walk up. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see I think I could see a camera.

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<v Speaker 5>There.

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<v Speaker 2>She comes here, it's about an eighteen inch opening, dumps

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<v Speaker 2>the bag in here. Now, she would have gotten right

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<v Speaker 2>back into the vehicle. From what I've heard, they're able

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<v Speaker 2>to see her toss the bag.

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<v Speaker 8>And I'm curious if we can see what type of

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<v Speaker 8>bag it was. Is it a bag from Kroger, like

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<v Speaker 8>the plastic bags they bag or groceries in or is

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<v Speaker 8>it a garbage bag that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've confirmed that it does appear to be a plastic

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<v Speaker 1>shopping bag for Walmart.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. So there's the camera.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh there's another one over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, so that would have been the one

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<v Speaker 2>that would have caught those pumps over there, I'm imagining.

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<v Speaker 1>So this, So then that's even more suspicious because why

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<v Speaker 1>would you go to the closest pump where you can

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<v Speaker 1>be monitored by the person looking out the window.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, there's twelve pumps, and this is a busy gas station,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're within forty five minutes in which she would

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<v Speaker 2>have been here, you know, and this hawks has a

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<v Speaker 2>full convenience store in here. I mean, small towns like

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<v Speaker 2>this has people get breakfast.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet lottery slot machines.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you pulling up here if you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to bring.

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<v Speaker 2>A place possible to dump evidence of crime.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a recreation center right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I mean that's a full park there, full

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<v Speaker 2>children park with a full playground in there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Huck station on DeJong Route thirteen Beverly crossed over

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<v Speaker 1>oncoming lanes of traffic to pull into boasted heightened security

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<v Speaker 1>in keeping with the amount of money and traffic that

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<v Speaker 1>combination of business would attract. Standing at this very busy

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<v Speaker 1>gas station slash casino, it was pretty obvious there were

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<v Speaker 1>many places that would have been better suited for discarding

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<v Speaker 1>murder evidence, including the rural area surrounded by abandoned baseball

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<v Speaker 1>fields where the murder occurred.

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<v Speaker 5>From that light, there's five businesses all that would have

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<v Speaker 5>been on the side of the road that she was

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<v Speaker 5>driving on, which all would have made more sense if

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<v Speaker 5>you're dumping evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was something else that Hucks was just a

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<v Speaker 1>block and a half away from another gas station, one

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<v Speaker 1>that was managed by Beverly's mother, Renee high Tower. Why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't Beverly have gone there if she was ditching evidence. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>story does not make sense from the prosecution's standpoint right now,

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<v Speaker 1>for all the bumps that we're seeing from Julie's version,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not sensical from the prosecutions. Murder on Songbird Road.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back after the break here again is murder

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<v Speaker 1>on Songbird Road. The reality was that Beverly was about

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<v Speaker 1>to be sentenced for a crime she may not have committed.

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<v Speaker 1>That weighed heavily as we left the Huck station and

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<v Speaker 1>drove to Renee High Towers home.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to head to Julie's mother's house, Renee.

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<v Speaker 1>That home belonged to Renee's mother, who passed a little

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<v Speaker 1>over a year after watching her granddaughter arrested there. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're going to know it's Renee's home when

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<v Speaker 1>we see the Halloween decoration right. High Tower's modest home

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<v Speaker 1>situated about eight miles northwest of where the murder occurred.

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<v Speaker 1>When I Google map the address, the image that appeared

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<v Speaker 1>showed a large we still stand with Julie banner hanging

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<v Speaker 1>from the front porch, but we were anticipating a much

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<v Speaker 1>bigger display in person. Oh my gosh, you get to

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<v Speaker 1>see the Halloween decorations.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll close and persp close, I'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Grab my Do you want your notebook?

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<v Speaker 2>I do?

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<v Speaker 4>We get all the gear for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>Renee high Tower had transformed her entire front line and

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<v Speaker 1>porch into an elaborate and creative protest display, with individual

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<v Speaker 1>vignettes targeting every individual she believes corrupt or at fault

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<v Speaker 1>regarding her daughter's conviction. Okay, now wait, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at these Danny boy bias. Justice sentenced the dishonorable

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<v Speaker 1>judge paint Huh severely blinded by tunnel vision toll wrong

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<v Speaker 1>storyline and tripped up, lost his memory and left wandering.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>She posted video of the installation on Facebook, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was even more impressive in person.

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<v Speaker 2>Renee has a graveyard with nine headstones, all relating to

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<v Speaker 2>people that I think that she believes pretty pretty strongly

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<v Speaker 2>screwed her daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'll look at the front They lied

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<v Speaker 1>and manipulated an investigation.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's called the Shady Blue Cemetery.

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<v Speaker 1>The artistry and humor intertwined with the anger that fueled

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<v Speaker 1>the hours that must have gone into crafting the incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>detailed pieces is daunting and somewhat heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is what a mom fighting for justice. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>look close and personal.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what somebody who's out of fs to give.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless she's calling it less, she sees it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>which I respect. So I'm a.

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<v Speaker 4>Big fan of that. You know, all right, let's go

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<v Speaker 4>in this Danny boy, I don't know, I'll have.

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<v Speaker 1>To ask.

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<v Speaker 9>Order.

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<v Speaker 1>It was indeed referencing local reporter Danny Vaye, who I

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<v Speaker 1>have found to be very candid and thoughtful in revisiting

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<v Speaker 1>his covering of the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes he is, because there is.

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<v Speaker 1>She even has the news flag attached to the microphone.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey hi hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Renee radiates a very grounded energy in person. She's direct

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<v Speaker 1>and controlled, quick to laughter at times, but otherwise pretty stoic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not at all surprising. She was married to a

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<v Speaker 1>cop at one point and has two sons in the

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<v Speaker 1>armed forces. She favors non frilly, dark clothing, which compliments

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<v Speaker 1>her dark hair, which is often topped with a hat

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<v Speaker 1>of some sort. She's only about five foot one, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing petite or meek about her.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fitting. She's a manager.

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<v Speaker 1>She comes across as one who gets things done. Upon

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<v Speaker 1>entering the house, we were immediately met by piles of

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<v Speaker 1>neatly wrapped and stacked Christmas presents, even though it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even Halloween yet.

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<v Speaker 3>It was early makes piece.

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<v Speaker 1>In real time we realized Renee wasn't ahead of Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather it was postponed when Julia Beverly was arrested.

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<v Speaker 10>These are the presents sitting from three years ago. I'm

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<v Speaker 10>still waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm Lauren.

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<v Speaker 10>This is my oldest son.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 10>And the puppies?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a cat or a puppy?

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<v Speaker 10>Puppies?

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<v Speaker 2>You watch your TV?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Lauren, Nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>We settled down at her dining room table with Renee

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<v Speaker 1>and Julia Beverly's oldest brother, Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>And Michael, you flew in two days ago?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay? And where where do you live?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm in in California?

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<v Speaker 4>Got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Got Michael, like all of Renee's four children, is mixed race.

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<v Speaker 1>He's reserved, thoughtful, and clean cut, all in keeping with

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<v Speaker 1>his profession as an aviation mechanic in the US Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all of her sons, he stands just under six foot,

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<v Speaker 1>towering compared to the petite sister he's traveled to support

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<v Speaker 1>it sentencing. He listens intently, taking in the two strangers

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<v Speaker 1>at his mother's table and their microphones.

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<v Speaker 2>Property made the drive to Hawks thanks you're saying about

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<v Speaker 2>with nine minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>So we caught the light.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a couple of hours many two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half freezon night, bought off the Williamson County Jail over

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<v Speaker 2>there time, ye Julia was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Stat Next to Renee are multiple large binders she's been

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<v Speaker 1>filling with every news clip, social media post, or official

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<v Speaker 1>record of the murder for which her daughter is about

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<v Speaker 1>to be sentenced. They're about five or six of them

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all full.

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<v Speaker 10>I wanted to show you you guys were talking about

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<v Speaker 10>to mouse, Yeah, and this kind of shows you a

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<v Speaker 10>little bit the lay of it, the way it was

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<v Speaker 10>set out there, so you can kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of see high tower.

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<v Speaker 1>Wanted to share photos of the crime scene that show

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly's car was moved before it was examined by the

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene investigator.

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<v Speaker 10>So this one is the very first picture where Julie's

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<v Speaker 10>car is way there on the driveway, and then the

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<v Speaker 10>others we took to show where it's moved and This

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<v Speaker 10>is like a straight down vision of the house.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So show me show me the car being.

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<v Speaker 10>Moved where it was and where right here's her car

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<v Speaker 10>way up there right here, okay, and they moved it

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<v Speaker 10>over here for what reason, don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the timeframe of the car bed this is.

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<v Speaker 10>You can see the ambulance are there, okay? And this

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<v Speaker 10>you see they're rolling out the tape here and her

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<v Speaker 10>car has been moved. Julie was still there when they

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<v Speaker 10>were rolling out the tape.

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<v Speaker 4>So did they ask her for her keys or her

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<v Speaker 4>keys out the car?

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<v Speaker 10>She was on the porch hysterical.

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to tell Bob they found a DNA

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<v Speaker 1>thing in the car.

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<v Speaker 10>What they found in the car was little tiny specks

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<v Speaker 10>like the top of an eraserhead. It was only Joy's.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they did.

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<v Speaker 10>Test and the DNA that was found in the car

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<v Speaker 10>was on the steering wheel, and it was Mike's because

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<v Speaker 10>they both drive the car.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but it was if someone moved the car and

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<v Speaker 1>they had interacted with Julie.

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<v Speaker 4>It's quite possible that that was transference. Quite possible.

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<v Speaker 1>No acknowledgment of Beverly's car, ever having been moved, has

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<v Speaker 1>been mentioned. Not during the trial or in any official documents,

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<v Speaker 1>Renee has seen being moved at the crime scene by

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<v Speaker 1>someone other than Beverly. Aside, her vehicle wasn't processed by

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<v Speaker 1>the crime scene investigator until December seventh, two days after

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<v Speaker 1>the murder and after it had been moved into storage.

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<v Speaker 1>That leads us back to the evidence. The prosecution believes

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<v Speaker 1>Beverlely drove to Hawks to discard.

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<v Speaker 2>So today we took the exact same round she took,

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<v Speaker 2>all rural until you hit the Young and that light

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<v Speaker 2>is like a half a block, So, like, that made

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<v Speaker 2>way more sense to me. It's frankly, that's where she's

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<v Speaker 2>turned around. She pulls into the Hawks to turn back

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to the house. You know, she's first

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<v Speaker 2>telling me the story and I'm like, why are you

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<v Speaker 2>still going to Hawks? That sucks to me, It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make any sense. So now when we did the drive,

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<v Speaker 2>it made way more suck.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you realize you're on a multi lane, busy road

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to turn around. We went in and

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the security camera set up they have there.

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<v Speaker 1>She would have known, because you manage a gas station

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<v Speaker 1>that that would probably be the worst possible place if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted anonymity or it's not very.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to stop out in superiod, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>because you're trying to tell yeah, right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, we did tell them about it, and they looked

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<v Speaker 9>and they didn't find it, right, nothing, nothing, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Because no, But then they then they go to the

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<v Speaker 1>dump and find three unrelated items evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you guys know, Like, there's no way in any

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<v Speaker 2>trial that I'm a part of as an attorney that

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting that into evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, much was made by the prosecution of the extensive

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<v Speaker 1>search of the dump by investigators while they're digging at

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<v Speaker 1>the dump did end up unearthing a discarded shower curtain

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<v Speaker 1>and several random utensils. None of those things were linked

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<v Speaker 1>by DNA to the crime scene.

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<v Speaker 10>When this officer was on the sand, sane crossed and said,

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<v Speaker 10>do these have any relation to this case?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 10>Any relation to any case?

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<v Speaker 4>And Mary, it's the damage is done.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the old saying that you can't unring a bell,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can take the skunk out of the jury box,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't get rid of the smell, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly when when that when knives are introduced

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<v Speaker 2>of any kind in a juror's mind.

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<v Speaker 4>I do not in.

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<v Speaker 9>Terse.

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<v Speaker 1>Thein was Julie Beverly's public defender. While preparing for Beverly's trials,

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<v Speaker 1>she lost two different second chairs before ultimately heading into

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<v Speaker 1>court unassisted. A second chair is a lawyer who assists

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<v Speaker 1>the lead attorney in court. Their role includes knowing key

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<v Speaker 1>documents and exhibits, taking comprehensive notes, and assisting in strategic

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<v Speaker 1>preparations for trial. Tom Slayton was thean's initial second chair

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<v Speaker 1>and interviewed Beverly in the first six months after her

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<v Speaker 1>arrest before going over to the prosecution. This conflict is

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<v Speaker 1>why a special prosecutor, Jennifer Mudge, was brought in. It

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<v Speaker 1>is hard to speculate as to why random items with

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<v Speaker 1>no connection to the crime or crimes were ever ruled admissible.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's incredibly damning.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that gives them reasonable doubt of her innocence.

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<v Speaker 2>It's there. I don't care what theme asks after the fact,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that, because people consider that just lawyering. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>it's a defense lawyer.

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<v Speaker 10>Lawyer is That's exactly how it was portrayed in social

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<v Speaker 10>media because everybody, oh, they found their weapons. This is

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<v Speaker 10>what they were though they were rusted. One was a

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<v Speaker 10>small sickle and one was a breadknife.

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<v Speaker 2>A breadknife the murder weapons. But like what gets portrayed

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<v Speaker 2>in social media is exactly what is going through the

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<v Speaker 2>jurors minds. It's it's like a mirror image. I always

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<v Speaker 2>say it, Like when I'm doing like Core TV stuff

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, I always reference my Twitter account because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very active about the cases that I'm covering on there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know what the temperature is on cases in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what the people who I consider to be

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<v Speaker 2>exactly who are the jurors in the box. This is

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<v Speaker 2>what their temperature is in terms of that defendant in

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<v Speaker 2>any case. And it's always the mirror image. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know from twenty years of doing this, that is what

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<v Speaker 2>the jury's thinking. It's going to mirror with the people

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<v Speaker 2>just regularly people that are following the case. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>During the trial, Mike Beasley was not asked to be recognized.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of the items that were implied came from his house,

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<v Speaker 1>including a purple shower curtain brandishing a giant butterfly. No

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<v Speaker 1>shower curtain was reported missing from the crime scene, and

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<v Speaker 1>Renee says the couple wouldn't have owned one that looked

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 4>The other thing that strikes.

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<v Speaker 1>Me is so odd. There is no way that if

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter had been killed and my significant other had

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<v Speaker 1>wrestled with an intruder, that I would not be with

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<v Speaker 1>my I mean basically wife, well, the mother of two.

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<v Speaker 2>Of your kids.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Michael was with me night when we took Julie

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<v Speaker 10>over to see him, and it was DCFS that got

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<v Speaker 10>there right when we did, right because she came up

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 10>and talked to Julie and she kind of told Julie

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<v Speaker 10>that she wouldn't be able to see her children, and

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 10>that did Julie start crying again, and she wanted to

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<v Speaker 10>talk to Mike because.

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<v Speaker 1>The night of the tragedy, she's not allowed to see

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>her gay right, you know, she's not been formally charged

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<v Speaker 1>with anything, and she's not allowed to see her children.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that doesn't surprise me. We can't pretend for

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<v Speaker 2>like one second that she's not the prime suspect. Again,

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>she's the last people, like last person to see Jade alive.

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 2>She's calling it in. She was at the scene, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. Like that doesn't surprise me because that's

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<v Speaker 2>just how law enforcement operates, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is that they formed the tunnel vision immediately

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 2>within I don't know how many minutes of speaking with

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<v Speaker 2>her in whatever cops are initially they're they're like like

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<v Speaker 2>in their minds, I don't give a shit what they're

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:02.360
<v Speaker 2>saying in their reports. They're immediately like she's the one.

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 2>In terms of the relationship between Mike. To Lawren's point,

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>if I'm rolling up home and I see ten police

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<v Speaker 2>cars out there, or if I've gotten a call from

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 2>law enforcement and like, yeah, you need to get home

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 2>right now. There's something tragic has happened, and I'm speeding

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>home and they're telling me, well, your daughter's been murdered,

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 2>and they're telling me I can't talk to my wife.

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like losing my mind. The concept of him cutting

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<v Speaker 2>off all communications to this day without a word being

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.959
<v Speaker 2>spoken between the two of them is beyond desire. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's not me saying that I think Mike's involved in a

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:48.000
<v Speaker 2>mew wish reform, but it's a very befuddling situation for

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<v Speaker 2>me to try to wrap my mind around. It's crazy

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 9>I've always thought that he's a passive guy. So Suly said,

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 9>these are.

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<v Speaker 2>Same things, like she turned it completely non confrontation.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, absolutely, so you know she I feel like Julie

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 9>would kind of like would get her way, right, So

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 9>he's just kind of letting them lead him along, right,

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 9>So he just kind of will go with whatever. So

0:28:17.080 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 9>if Julie is not there, I kind of feel like

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 9>he would just listen to.

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Whatever whoever story.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, and you know, of course he's greeting at that point,

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 9>but he just he he kind of lets someone else

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 9>take over.

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, Julie, you guys spoke to him, he won't.

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<v Speaker 9>He wouldn't answer. I try to get ahold of him

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 9>a couple of times he wouldn't answer. But me, I

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 9>didn't really have a not like a bad relationship with him.

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 9>But I've always been away, so I've seen him on

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 9>holidays and stuff.

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>But and we were fine.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't like you guys want to.

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>He didn't socialize outside of the gatherings.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 9>No, when when he was here, I socialized more with

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 9>the kids than him. He was just kind of he's

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<v Speaker 9>quiet and and he I don't know, Yeah, I feel

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 9>like he just he kind of let Julie lead him

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 9>in their life. No, I don't want to say like

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 9>he wasn't there for anything, but he just kind of

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 9>sat back and let her run the house. So I

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 9>think his mom also did that for him before.

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>He met Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>So if Julia Beverly was somewhat mothering in her relationship

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>with Mike Beasley, it's that same maternal nature that makes

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>her murder conviction so unbelievable to all her three brothers,

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:32.600
<v Speaker 1>including the youngest one, Ricky, who joined us at the table.

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>He serves in the United States Air Force and for

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>years was in the Air Force on our guard.

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<v Speaker 11>I was just shocked at first hearing that that supposedly

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 11>Julie did it, and you know, I'm running back through

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 11>tilhood memories. I'm just like, there's no way. It's like

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.240
<v Speaker 11>it's like if some flat earther was like trying to

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 11>tell me that the Earth was flat, There's no way.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.239
<v Speaker 11>But they're trying to tell me, no, it's proof. Now

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 11>I'm like no, Like, I mean, that's what I know

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 11>my whole life. You know, I've known Julian my whole life.

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 11>All these examples about f didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, especially because on holidays she will she'll have two

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 9>babies on her you know what I'm saying. She sit

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<v Speaker 9>at the kids table, she'll you know what I'm like,

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 9>she's she's a When we went to Salem for Nikki's

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 9>wedding and she's taking care of other people's kids like

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 9>all that, they all just went to her. No one

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 9>even asked her to because she just ended up watching

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 9>everyone's kids.

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>She was a mom went through.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So what do you guys think is going to

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<v Speaker 4>go down today?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm almost certain it will be a denial. But

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 10>like I tell Julie, whatever happens today, it's a positive

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<v Speaker 10>move forward. I just hate that she's even in this position.

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 10>I think about what she's feeling going through it, and

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 10>it bothers me because I can't fix it.

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I mean, the truth means and that's the

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 4>thing I mean.

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to make it really clear all of you

0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>guys cared about Jade. Yes, yes, you don't just want

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>justice for Julie on us, right, you want justice for Jade.

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back with Murder on Songbird Road. Now

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<v Speaker 1>back to Murder on Songbird Road. Next, we headed to

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<v Speaker 1>her sentencing, which took place in Williamson County Courthouse in Marion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a boxy, modern brick building which was apparently built

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy one, with minimal use of windows who

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>as to maximize energy efficiency. The resulting structure resembles an

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>industrial warehouse. After clearing security, Bob and I sat in

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>the back of the small courtroom, which was clearly divided

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>by families and loyalties. Jade's relations sat to the left

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and Beverly's to the right. Local reporter Danny Vaye was there.

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<v Speaker 12>Julia Beverly was found guilty in February of murdering j

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<v Speaker 12>Beasley in twenty twenty, so it took about eight months

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<v Speaker 12>for the sentencing hearing to play out. After the conviction,

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<v Speaker 12>Beverly entered the courtroom today in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>I had not met Julia Beverly in person yet, but

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>heard her arrival before I saw her. The courtroom quieted

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>as a metallic clanking signaled the entrance of a petite

0:32:19.560 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>woman clad in an orange prison issued jumpsuit. Her steps slow, deliberate,

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and waited by the heavy chains that shackled her briteite frame.

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Her hair was down and long, the length underscoring the

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<v Speaker 1>time passed since her arrest nearly three years ago. Beverly's

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>face remained blank as she entered the room until her

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>eyes met with those of her eldest son, Jayden, who

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>was seated with Renee, and her brothers. She acknowledged them

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>all with a slight nod as her mouth gave way

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:50.959
<v Speaker 1>to a hint of the smile I'd seen on her

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>social media, though heavier and short lived. Her face turned

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>somber again as she turned towards the bench. All but

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the top of her head was engulfed by her chair.

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<v Speaker 12>Once seated, Judge Stephen Green considering a motion today to

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<v Speaker 12>a new trial that was filed by the defense just

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 12>a couple of days ago, but Judge Green denied the

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 12>motion due to substantial evidence presented at the trial. And

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 12>before Green read the sentence, a family member from the

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 12>Beasley side was allowed to read a victim impact statement

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 12>saying that Beasley's death will continue to haunt the family.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Beasley was seated with a woman I recognized from

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 1>his social.

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Media posts as Brooke.

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>They apparently worked together for years a cracker barrel, and,

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>according to their social media timelines, appear to have started

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a relationship within months after the murder. This didn't go

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>unnoticed by Beverly's friends and family. According to screen grabs,

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Renee has shared Brookes social media often appeared to target Beverly,

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 1>her friends and family, while very much implying she was

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>now raising Beverly's three youngest children as her own. In

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>one post, she snuggles Beverly's youngest son, who was born

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>after Beverly's arrest, with the caption I may not have

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.719
<v Speaker 1>given birth to you, but you will always be my baby.

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Another one shows the infant, whose name has apparently been

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 1>changed to Caine, wearing a Navy shirt emblazoned with the

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 1>words raised by an awesome Mama. Renee Higtower finds this

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>especially painful given her absolute lack of access to her

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 1>grandchildren since the murder. Pain that is further compounded by

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 1>the details of Beverly's birth while in custody of Williamson

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>County Jail awaiting trial. They remain deeply disturbing. We'll break

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>them down in much more detail in our next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the sentencing, this courtroom was packed.

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<v Speaker 12>There was sixty people inside the courtroom to hear the

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.919
<v Speaker 12>sentence and of increased police presence there.

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>No recording was allowed, but mad and I were able

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to bring in small pads and writing implements.

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<v Speaker 12>Special Prosecutor Jennifer Mudge recommended a sentence of over forty

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 12>five years. The defense countered with a recommendation of the

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 12>minimum twenty years, and they say because Beverly had no

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 12>prior criminal history, Green said he took everything into account

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 12>and then handed down a fifty five year sentence.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>The reaction in the courtroom was as immediate as it

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>was polarizing.

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 12>Some of the Beasley family were driven to tears as

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 12>they heard the sentence. Beverly was also in tears and

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 12>was allowed to hug multiple family members before being taken

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 12>into custody and escorted to the Williamson County Jail.

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 1>After the sentencing, Mada and I compared notes.

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Watching the dynamics in the courtroom was really interesting because

0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm always on the other side of the bar. This

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>is really the first time I've ever been in the gallery,

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 2>like washing it as a straight up observer, and it

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>was really interesting. And we had gone in and we

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>had told Renee, look, we're neutral, we're Switzerland, and this

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>thing here right now.

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:57.120
<v Speaker 1>But there were only two places you could sit right

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and there was no room on Mike's Mike's side and

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Jessica's family.

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Side, so we had no choice. It was just a

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 2>really interesting dynamic. After the sentence was laid down by

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 2>the judge, we see these two opposite sides. We see weeping, sadness,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 2>truly getting last hugs with her loved.

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Ones, sobbing as she hugs her eldest son, Yeah, Jade

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and goodbye.

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>And we see joy, which seems so.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Odd.

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.759
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't cure anything, you know what I'm saying.

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't.

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make anything better, It doesn't heal the wound.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's like it's the only form of justice

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 2>that we have. But the question that we have now

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>is it justice. It's not justice if the wrong person

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 2>has just been sentenced fifty five years in prison because

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 2>she didn't.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Do it, and if she didn't do it, that means

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>whoever killed Jade it's still out the But what stuck

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>out to both of us was the theme of religion.

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 1>When Jade's great aunt on behalf of the family addressed

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Beverly before her sentencing, the word Christianity was almost wielded

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 1>as a weapon, and that Beverly had not won because

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the children would be raised Christians, and the victim impact statement.

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 4>It was very interesting that when she.

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Listed Mike and Julie's three children, she really punched the

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>fact that they had changed her son, the infant she

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>gave birth to in jail, and they changed it to Cain,

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>as in canaan Abel, cana Abel witches Bible, Cain killed Abel.

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Towards the end of that statement, Matas scrippled down something

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>and tilted his paper towards me. Holy shit, they think

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>they're witches. The last word was underlined.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Darkness the light evil.

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's what I wrote down in the line, Like.

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 2>They're talking about witches.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 4>This whole darkness cannot drive out darkness, right, that's wild?

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 4>All right, you have to get to the airport.

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:15.720
<v Speaker 1>So tomorrow I'm meeting with two of Julie's best friends,

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>one who still is local, can be good stuff. And

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>then Leah, Yeah, I'm gonna really hammer them as to

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 1>had they ever seen her loser temper, had she ever

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<v Speaker 1>complained about whether.

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<v Speaker 2>Or not fucking witch? I want to know if they're wicked,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they allegend that this was some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rich or.

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<v Speaker 2>Something, because and you saw, like I saw, Renee's necklace

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<v Speaker 2>definitely had like some pagan symbal tree or some like

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<v Speaker 2>wicked like you know, I mean, it was definitely had

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<v Speaker 2>that vibe to it.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a fascinating angle and it could be a motive

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<v Speaker 6>as to why this girl was railroaded, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying, Or I mean, that kind of shit

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<v Speaker 2>is frowned upon down here.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next Murder on Songbird Road, we uncover the

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<v Speaker 1>details of Beverly's treatment and custody.

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<v Speaker 10>So I get every opportunity to degrade her, or belittle her,

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<v Speaker 10>or even torture her.

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<v Speaker 1>They did it, and the controversy surrounding the delivery of

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<v Speaker 1>her son.

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<v Speaker 9>The judge ordered Thomas would be taken as soon as

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<v Speaker 9>the umbilical cord was cut.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to scream at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Moment, before I face Julia Beverly in person, she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like her mugshot. It's almost as if they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to magnify the half black side of her. Murder on

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