1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Murder on Songbird Road is a production of iHeart Podcasts 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: previously on Murder on Songbird Road. 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: So I wanted to interview her. I wanted to get 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: factually what her side of the story was. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Since Mota is still a licensed attorney, he was able 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: to meet with Beverly in privacy anytime. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: There were issues with Jade. Jessica would never communicate with Julie. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: She would always go to Mike. 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: This strained, if not nonexistent, relationship with Jessica could shed 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: some light on the lack of support for Julia in 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: the days and hours immediately following the murder. 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: And so she's like, I tell Jade, I'm going to 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: be gone a couple hours. Just play on your phone. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: I'll be back. She's like, it wasn't unusual for us 15 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: to leave Jaden and Jade. 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: In Illinois, it is illegal to leave a child under 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: the age of fourteen home alone. 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: And she claims that as soon as she pulls the 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: storm open that she notices blood in the living room. 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: It's somebody clad and all black. It's a man black gloves, 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: comes charging at her and then he's got a knife. 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: This was the front door. This is word went down 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: with the masked marauder for to believe that story. 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm Lauren brad Pacheco, and this is murder on Songbird Road. 25 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: Julia Beverly's sentencing was set for Friday, the thirteenth of 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: October twenty twenty three. Bob Matta and I were in 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Marion to attend it in person. 28 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: The woman found guilty of murdering Jay Beasley will be 29 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: sentenced today. That's happening at the Williamston County Courthouse at 30 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: one this afternoon. It took the jury less than two 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: hours to find her guilty on three counts, so first 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 3: degree murder. 33 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: All right, So let's figure out what the hawks says. 34 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning. 35 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna head over to HWKS now, but there are 36 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: three hooks in the general vicinity. 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: Which one did she go to? 38 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 5: It's gonna be the one on the Yong Street, Okay. 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: So the closest, the closest one. 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 5: It'll be on the Young or Route thirteen. 41 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: If there's one, that's two point seven miles on East 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: d Young. There's wayet okay, So that's not the one 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: five miles on West n Okay, Okay, Okay. 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: We're heading there now. And then we're gonna head over. 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 4: What time are you guys going? 46 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Bob Mada and I were scheduled to sit down with 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Beverly's mother, Renee, and her siblings before the sentence. Sing 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: On our way to High Towers home, we decided to 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: clock the time it would take us to get from 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: the location on Songbird Road where Jade was murdered to 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: the Hucks gas station where the prosecution containds Beverly disposed 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: of dents. Beverly maintained she was simply tossing dirty diapers 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: before turning around and heading home for her credit cards. 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Turn right onto Corey League. 55 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, we're going the right way. Okay, So 56 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: if we're to believe the state's theory, she has committed 57 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: the murder at this point, Okay. 58 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 4: Has washed up, thoroughly, washed up thoroughly. 59 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: She would have had to have transported stuff, put it 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: into a bag. 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 4: And unless she. 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Was about bloody clothes. 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: And so she would have been wearing gloves or there 64 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: would be some kind of cross contamination. 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: Right, and you're you're talking about a either a garbage 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: bag or plastic bag filled with bloody clothes and a knife, 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: which I'm assuming would be poking holes in the plastic bags. 68 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Just common sense, all right. So we're going to take 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: this right the Corey League Road. 70 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: And unless you double or triple wrapped that plastic bag, 71 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: you would have gotten some kind of blood on the 72 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: exterior as you were loading the stuff in it. 73 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: There would have been some kind of biological material somewhere 74 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: in this car. 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: A pointed out no blood belonging to Jade Beasley was 76 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: found anywhere in Beverly's car. There was a small spec 77 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: found on the wheel attributed to both Beverly and Jade's father, Mike, 78 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: which is not surprising given the shared use of the car. 79 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: Back to clocking the drive, it was. 80 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: About three point three miles from the house to the 81 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: gas station. We are three minutes into the drive. You 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: still got about two point five miles. It's not as straightaway. 83 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: You're having to slow down. Now. You have to try 84 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: to imagine what would be going through somebody's mind if 85 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: they just committed a brutal homicide like that. 86 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: If you you are a compartmentalized killer, you are thinking, 87 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: look normal, don't attract suspicion, Drive slowly, right. 88 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: Don't get pulled over. And I'm curious it doesn't seem 89 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 2: like this is a highly policed area back here. I'm 90 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: imagining it's either Marion or the county sheriff is the 91 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: only ones ever back here. 92 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: But also houses are close to the road, and you 93 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: would be aware of dogs or children or you know, 94 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: running out into the road. 95 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: You don't, you wouldn't tear through You're not. 96 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not doing seventy five back here for sure, 97 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: Like I'm going thirty eight maybe. 98 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: And that feels quick, yeah, and appropriate. The rural back 99 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: roads gave into more suburban sprawl as we got closer 100 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: to the young It is a blinking solar stop sign, 101 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: so there must be enough traffic on the road to 102 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: warrant that. 103 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: That looks like a main Thoroughfarewell we just turned off of, 104 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 2: and this one does as well. It's relatively freshly paved. 105 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: Much more residential housing on this m. 106 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: Street, higher end looking homes. 107 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: For sure, newer built as well. 108 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 4: Like permanent driveways. 109 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would hazard to guess these were all 110 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: built in the last ten to fifteen years. It looks 111 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: like to me, we're about six minutes into the drive, 112 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: we're about a mile from the gas station. 113 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: And it very much is a little suburban community nestled 114 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: around a cornfield. 115 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: Yes, like I can guarantee that at one point this 116 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: was all farm land not too long ago, all right, 117 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: So we were on the stretch round nine tenths of 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: a mile. You can see the Marianne water Tower. We've 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: got a main thoroughfare door left over here. 120 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 4: That looks like another church. 121 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 6: I mean there. 122 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: You can't throw a stone without hitting a church. A 123 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: lot of churches cast a stone without hitting a church. 124 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: There you go. 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 5: In a quarter miles, we're seven times. 126 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: We're getting the young the hawkses. 127 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're already seven minutes and thirty seconds in 128 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: about making that turn. 129 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so she's gonna getting her left lane here. It's 130 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: a two lane highway. We're hitting a light. Just beyond 131 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: this light is going to be the Hawks on the left. 132 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: And you know what, I understand why she would have 133 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: pulled in there to turn around, because now we're in 134 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: a much more commercial, multi lane main road. 135 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: And this makes me feel way better about her story 136 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: because this is the first and only light that we've hit. 137 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: This is where she claims that she goes into her 138 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: purse and realizes that she did not have her cards 139 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: with her when she told me the story last night, 140 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: she was like, well, it was like halfway this is 141 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: eyeshot of the Hawks. Yeah, okay, So that makes way 142 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: more sense to me why she would have just continued 143 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: to go to the Hawks for nothing else to turn 144 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: around to go back, you know what I'm saying. I mean, 145 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: that makes way more sense to me. 146 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: We pulled up along the gas pumps at Hawks where 147 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: Julia Beverly was captured on security cam discarding a small 148 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: plastic bag. 149 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: So we have three lanes of pumps, all of which 150 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: have garbage receeptacles in between the sets of pumps. 151 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: And when we say garbage, I mean we're talking garbage cans. 152 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: We're not talking a dumpster exactly. But interestingly enough, the 153 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: one that we just pulled up to has contracting debris. 154 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: Exactly in it. All right, So took us nine minutes 155 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: fifteen seconds to get here catching that light, which we 156 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: knew she caught the light as well when she realizes 157 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: that she doesn't have her debit card. 158 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: This is important to note because the prosecution contends it 159 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: would have taken Beverly six to seven minutes to make 160 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the drive. Google Maps approximate seven, but with having to 161 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: wait out the red light. It took us over nine. 162 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: She pulls in, you know, because she has two young 163 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: children who are still pooping in diapers. Occasionally as a parent, 164 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: you know that there are times that you have to 165 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: change the diaper in the car. It happens. So she 166 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: has the bag with the poopy diapers, gets out and 167 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: she's going to I'm assuming opens the back door right 168 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: grabs the diapers. Maybe she reaches around grabs them, and 169 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: then she's gonna go dump right into this receptacle and 170 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 2: we'll have to ask her which one she went to, 171 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: if she went closest to, because I'm going to take 172 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: a walk and see where the camera is. 173 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: Okay, but this is a busy, very busy, very busy street. 174 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 7: Very if you were disposing of bloody clothes and a 175 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 7: murder weapon, right, would you do it in the broad 176 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 7: daylight in front of multiple people and by multiple people? 177 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 4: These are gas pumps. You have somebody five feet away 178 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 4: from you at all. 179 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: Times we're talking. This is in the morning on December fifth, daylight. Like, 180 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: this is a busy gas station. I mean there's people here, 181 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of traffic, a lot 182 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: of foot traffic, people getting in out of their vehicles. 183 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to walk up. I want to 184 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: see I think I could see a camera. 185 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 5: There. 186 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: She comes here, it's about an eighteen inch opening, dumps 187 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: the bag in here. Now, she would have gotten right 188 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: back into the vehicle. From what I've heard, they're able 189 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: to see her toss the bag. 190 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 8: And I'm curious if we can see what type of 191 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 8: bag it was. Is it a bag from Kroger, like 192 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 8: the plastic bags they bag or groceries in or is 193 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 8: it a garbage bag that's it. 194 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: We've confirmed that it does appear to be a plastic 195 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: shopping bag for Walmart. 196 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: Exactly. So there's the camera. 197 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: Oh there's another one over there. 198 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so that would have been the one 199 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: that would have caught those pumps over there, I'm imagining. 200 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: So this, So then that's even more suspicious because why 201 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: would you go to the closest pump where you can 202 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: be monitored by the person looking out the window. 203 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: Exactly, there's twelve pumps, and this is a busy gas station, 204 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: and we're within forty five minutes in which she would 205 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: have been here, you know, and this hawks has a 206 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: full convenience store in here. I mean, small towns like 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: this has people get breakfast. 208 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 4: Yet lottery slot machines. 209 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: Why are you pulling up here if you don't want 210 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: to bring. 211 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: A place possible to dump evidence of crime. 212 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: And there's a recreation center right there. 213 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I mean that's a full park there, full 214 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: children park with a full playground in there. 215 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: The Huck station on DeJong Route thirteen Beverly crossed over 216 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: oncoming lanes of traffic to pull into boasted heightened security 217 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: in keeping with the amount of money and traffic that 218 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: combination of business would attract. Standing at this very busy 219 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: gas station slash casino, it was pretty obvious there were 220 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: many places that would have been better suited for discarding 221 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: murder evidence, including the rural area surrounded by abandoned baseball 222 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: fields where the murder occurred. 223 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 5: From that light, there's five businesses all that would have 224 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: been on the side of the road that she was 225 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 5: driving on, which all would have made more sense if 226 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: you're dumping evidence. 227 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: And there was something else that Hucks was just a 228 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: block and a half away from another gas station, one 229 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: that was managed by Beverly's mother, Renee high Tower. Why 230 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't Beverly have gone there if she was ditching evidence. Yes, 231 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: story does not make sense from the prosecution's standpoint right now, 232 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: for all the bumps that we're seeing from Julie's version, 233 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: it's not sensical from the prosecutions. Murder on Songbird Road. 234 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: We'll be back after the break here again is murder 235 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: on Songbird Road. The reality was that Beverly was about 236 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: to be sentenced for a crime she may not have committed. 237 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: That weighed heavily as we left the Huck station and 238 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: drove to Renee High Towers home. 239 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: So we're going to head to Julie's mother's house, Renee. 240 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: That home belonged to Renee's mother, who passed a little 241 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: over a year after watching her granddaughter arrested there. All right, 242 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: I think we're going to know it's Renee's home when 243 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: we see the Halloween decoration right. High Tower's modest home 244 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: situated about eight miles northwest of where the murder occurred. 245 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: When I Google map the address, the image that appeared 246 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: showed a large we still stand with Julie banner hanging 247 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: from the front porch, but we were anticipating a much 248 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: bigger display in person. Oh my gosh, you get to 249 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: see the Halloween decorations. 250 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: I'll close and persp close, I'll. 251 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: Grab my Do you want your notebook? 252 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: I do? 253 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: We get all the gear for Halloween. 254 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: Renee high Tower had transformed her entire front line and 255 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: porch into an elaborate and creative protest display, with individual 256 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: vignettes targeting every individual she believes corrupt or at fault 257 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: regarding her daughter's conviction. Okay, now wait, we have to 258 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: look at these Danny boy bias. Justice sentenced the dishonorable 259 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: judge paint Huh severely blinded by tunnel vision toll wrong 260 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: storyline and tripped up, lost his memory and left wandering. 261 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 262 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: She posted video of the installation on Facebook, but it 263 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: was even more impressive in person. 264 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: Renee has a graveyard with nine headstones, all relating to 265 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: people that I think that she believes pretty pretty strongly 266 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: screwed her daughter. 267 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'll look at the front They lied 268 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: and manipulated an investigation. 269 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: Oh it's called the Shady Blue Cemetery. 270 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: The artistry and humor intertwined with the anger that fueled 271 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,359 Speaker 1: the hours that must have gone into crafting the incredibly 272 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: detailed pieces is daunting and somewhat heartbreaking. 273 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: So this is what a mom fighting for justice. It's like, 274 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: look close and personal. 275 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: This is what somebody who's out of fs to give. 276 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 6: Yep, yep. 277 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: Unless she's calling it less, she sees it, you know, 278 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: which I respect. So I'm a. 279 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: Big fan of that. You know, all right, let's go 280 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 4: in this Danny boy, I don't know, I'll have. 281 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: To ask. 282 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 9: Order. 283 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: It was indeed referencing local reporter Danny Vaye, who I 284 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: have found to be very candid and thoughtful in revisiting 285 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: his covering of the case. 286 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: Oh yes he is, because there is. 287 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: She even has the news flag attached to the microphone. 288 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: Hey hi hi. 289 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: Renee radiates a very grounded energy in person. She's direct 290 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: and controlled, quick to laughter at times, but otherwise pretty stoic. 291 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: It's not at all surprising. She was married to a 292 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: cop at one point and has two sons in the 293 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: armed forces. She favors non frilly, dark clothing, which compliments 294 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: her dark hair, which is often topped with a hat 295 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: of some sort. She's only about five foot one, but 296 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: there's nothing petite or meek about her. 297 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: It's fitting. She's a manager. 298 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: She comes across as one who gets things done. Upon 299 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: entering the house, we were immediately met by piles of 300 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: neatly wrapped and stacked Christmas presents, even though it wasn't 301 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: even Halloween yet. 302 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: It was early makes piece. 303 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: In real time we realized Renee wasn't ahead of Christmas, 304 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: but rather it was postponed when Julia Beverly was arrested. 305 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 10: These are the presents sitting from three years ago. I'm 306 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 10: still waiting. 307 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 308 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: Hey, I'm Lauren. 309 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 10: This is my oldest son. 310 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 4: Nice to meet you. 311 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 10: And the puppies? 312 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: Was that a cat or a puppy? 313 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 10: Puppies? 314 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: You watch your TV? 315 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 4: I'm Lauren, Nice to meet you. 316 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: We settled down at her dining room table with Renee 317 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: and Julia Beverly's oldest brother, Michael. 318 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: And Michael, you flew in two days ago? 319 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 11: Yes? 320 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 4: Okay? And where where do you live? 321 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 9: I'm in in California? 322 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 4: Got it? 323 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: Got Michael, like all of Renee's four children, is mixed race. 324 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: He's reserved, thoughtful, and clean cut, all in keeping with 325 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: his profession as an aviation mechanic in the US Navy. 326 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Like all of her sons, he stands just under six foot, 327 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: towering compared to the petite sister he's traveled to support 328 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: it sentencing. He listens intently, taking in the two strangers 329 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: at his mother's table and their microphones. 330 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: Property made the drive to Hawks thanks you're saying about 331 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: with nine minutes. 332 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 4: So we caught the light. 333 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: I spent a couple of hours many two and a 334 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: half freezon night, bought off the Williamson County Jail over 335 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: there time, ye Julia was saying. 336 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: Stat Next to Renee are multiple large binders she's been 337 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: filling with every news clip, social media post, or official 338 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: record of the murder for which her daughter is about 339 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: to be sentenced. They're about five or six of them 340 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: and they're all full. 341 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 10: I wanted to show you you guys were talking about 342 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 10: to mouse, Yeah, and this kind of shows you a 343 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 10: little bit the lay of it, the way it was 344 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 10: set out there, so you can kind. 345 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: Of see high tower. 346 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: Wanted to share photos of the crime scene that show 347 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: Beverly's car was moved before it was examined by the 348 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: crime scene investigator. 349 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 10: So this one is the very first picture where Julie's 350 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 10: car is way there on the driveway, and then the 351 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 10: others we took to show where it's moved and This 352 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 10: is like a straight down vision of the house. 353 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 4: Okay, So show me show me the car being. 354 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 10: Moved where it was and where right here's her car 355 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 10: way up there right here, okay, and they moved it 356 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 10: over here for what reason, don't know. 357 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: What's the timeframe of the car bed this is. 358 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 10: You can see the ambulance are there, okay? And this 359 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 10: you see they're rolling out the tape here and her 360 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 10: car has been moved. Julie was still there when they 361 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 10: were rolling out the tape. 362 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: So did they ask her for her keys or her 363 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 4: keys out the car? 364 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 10: She was on the porch hysterical. 365 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: I was trying to tell Bob they found a DNA 366 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: thing in the car. 367 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 10: What they found in the car was little tiny specks 368 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 10: like the top of an eraserhead. It was only Joy's. 369 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: Well, they did. 370 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 10: Test and the DNA that was found in the car 371 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 10: was on the steering wheel, and it was Mike's because 372 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 10: they both drive the car. 373 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: No, but it was if someone moved the car and 374 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: they had interacted with Julie. 375 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 4: It's quite possible that that was transference. Quite possible. 376 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: No acknowledgment of Beverly's car, ever having been moved, has 377 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: been mentioned. Not during the trial or in any official documents, 378 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: Renee has seen being moved at the crime scene by 379 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: someone other than Beverly. Aside, her vehicle wasn't processed by 380 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: the crime scene investigator until December seventh, two days after 381 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: the murder and after it had been moved into storage. 382 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: That leads us back to the evidence. The prosecution believes 383 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: Beverlely drove to Hawks to discard. 384 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: So today we took the exact same round she took, 385 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: all rural until you hit the Young and that light 386 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: is like a half a block, So, like, that made 387 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: way more sense to me. It's frankly, that's where she's 388 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 2: turned around. She pulls into the Hawks to turn back 389 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: to go back to the house. You know, she's first 390 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: telling me the story and I'm like, why are you 391 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: still going to Hawks? That sucks to me, It doesn't 392 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: make any sense. So now when we did the drive, 393 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: it made way more suck. 394 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: Because you realize you're on a multi lane, busy road 395 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 1: and you need to turn around. We went in and 396 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: looked at the security camera set up they have there. 397 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: She would have known, because you manage a gas station 398 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: that that would probably be the worst possible place if 399 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: you wanted anonymity or it's not very. 400 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: Good to stop out in superiod, you know, it's like 401 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: because you're trying to tell yeah, right, exactly. 402 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, we did tell them about it, and they looked 403 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 9: and they didn't find it, right, nothing, nothing, Yeah. 404 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: Because no, But then they then they go to the 405 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: dump and find three unrelated items evidence. 406 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: Do you guys know, Like, there's no way in any 407 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: trial that I'm a part of as an attorney that 408 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: they're getting that into evidence. 409 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: Ever, much was made by the prosecution of the extensive 410 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: search of the dump by investigators while they're digging at 411 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: the dump did end up unearthing a discarded shower curtain 412 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: and several random utensils. None of those things were linked 413 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: by DNA to the crime scene. 414 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 10: When this officer was on the sand, sane crossed and said, 415 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 10: do these have any relation to this case? 416 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 5: No? 417 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 10: Any relation to any case? 418 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: And Mary, it's the damage is done. 419 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: There's the old saying that you can't unring a bell, 420 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: and you can take the skunk out of the jury box, 421 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: but you can't get rid of the smell, you know, 422 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: And that's exactly when when that when knives are introduced 423 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: of any kind in a juror's mind. 424 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 4: I do not in. 425 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 9: Terse. 426 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: Thein was Julie Beverly's public defender. While preparing for Beverly's trials, 427 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: she lost two different second chairs before ultimately heading into 428 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: court unassisted. A second chair is a lawyer who assists 429 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: the lead attorney in court. Their role includes knowing key 430 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: documents and exhibits, taking comprehensive notes, and assisting in strategic 431 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: preparations for trial. Tom Slayton was thean's initial second chair 432 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: and interviewed Beverly in the first six months after her 433 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: arrest before going over to the prosecution. This conflict is 434 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: why a special prosecutor, Jennifer Mudge, was brought in. It 435 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: is hard to speculate as to why random items with 436 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: no connection to the crime or crimes were ever ruled admissible. 437 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that's incredibly damning. 438 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: Because that gives them reasonable doubt of her innocence. 439 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: It's there. I don't care what theme asks after the fact, 440 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: you know that, because people consider that just lawyering. Oh 441 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: it's a defense lawyer. 442 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 10: Lawyer is That's exactly how it was portrayed in social 443 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 10: media because everybody, oh, they found their weapons. This is 444 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 10: what they were though they were rusted. One was a 445 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 10: small sickle and one was a breadknife. 446 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: A breadknife the murder weapons. But like what gets portrayed 447 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 2: in social media is exactly what is going through the 448 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: jurors minds. It's it's like a mirror image. I always 449 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: say it, Like when I'm doing like Core TV stuff 450 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: or whatever, I always reference my Twitter account because I'm 451 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: very active about the cases that I'm covering on there, 452 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: and I know what the temperature is on cases in 453 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: terms of what the people who I consider to be 454 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: exactly who are the jurors in the box. This is 455 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 2: what their temperature is in terms of that defendant in 456 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: any case. And it's always the mirror image. And I 457 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 2: know from twenty years of doing this, that is what 458 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: the jury's thinking. It's going to mirror with the people 459 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: just regularly people that are following the case. That's what 460 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: they're going to be thinking. 461 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: During the trial, Mike Beasley was not asked to be recognized. 462 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: Any of the items that were implied came from his house, 463 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: including a purple shower curtain brandishing a giant butterfly. No 464 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: shower curtain was reported missing from the crime scene, and 465 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Renee says the couple wouldn't have owned one that looked 466 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: like that. 467 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 4: The other thing that strikes. 468 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: Me is so odd. There is no way that if 469 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: my daughter had been killed and my significant other had 470 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: wrestled with an intruder, that I would not be with 471 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: my I mean basically wife, well, the mother of two. 472 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: Of your kids. 473 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, Michael was with me night when we took Julie 474 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 10: over to see him, and it was DCFS that got 475 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 10: there right when we did, right because she came up 476 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 10: and talked to Julie and she kind of told Julie 477 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 10: that she wouldn't be able to see her children, and 478 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 10: that did Julie start crying again, and she wanted to 479 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 10: talk to Mike because. 480 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: The night of the tragedy, she's not allowed to see 481 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: her gay right, you know, she's not been formally charged 482 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: with anything, and she's not allowed to see her children. 483 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't surprise me. We can't pretend for 484 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: like one second that she's not the prime suspect. Again, 485 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: she's the last people, like last person to see Jade alive. 486 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: She's calling it in. She was at the scene, Like 487 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: I get it. Like that doesn't surprise me because that's 488 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 2: just how law enforcement operates, you know what I'm saying, Like, 489 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: the problem is that they formed the tunnel vision immediately 490 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: within I don't know how many minutes of speaking with 491 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: her in whatever cops are initially they're they're like like 492 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: in their minds, I don't give a shit what they're 493 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: saying in their reports. They're immediately like she's the one. 494 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: In terms of the relationship between Mike. To Lawren's point, 495 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: if I'm rolling up home and I see ten police 496 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: cars out there, or if I've gotten a call from 497 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: law enforcement and like, yeah, you need to get home 498 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: right now. There's something tragic has happened, and I'm speeding 499 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: home and they're telling me, well, your daughter's been murdered, 500 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: and they're telling me I can't talk to my wife. 501 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: I'm like losing my mind. The concept of him cutting 502 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: off all communications to this day without a word being 503 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 2: spoken between the two of them is beyond desire. And 504 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 2: that's not me saying that I think Mike's involved in a 505 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: mew wish reform, but it's a very befuddling situation for 506 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: me to try to wrap my mind around. It's crazy 507 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 2: to me. 508 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 9: I've always thought that he's a passive guy. So Suly said, 509 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 9: these are. 510 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: Same things, like she turned it completely non confrontation. 511 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 9: Yes, absolutely, so you know she I feel like Julie 512 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 9: would kind of like would get her way, right, So 513 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 9: he's just kind of letting them lead him along, right, 514 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 9: So he just kind of will go with whatever. So 515 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 9: if Julie is not there, I kind of feel like 516 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 9: he would just listen to. 517 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: Whatever whoever story. 518 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 9: Yes, and you know, of course he's greeting at that point, 519 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 9: but he just he he kind of lets someone else 520 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 9: take over. 521 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: Anyways, Julie, you guys spoke to him, he won't. 522 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 9: He wouldn't answer. I try to get ahold of him 523 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 9: a couple of times he wouldn't answer. But me, I 524 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 9: didn't really have a not like a bad relationship with him. 525 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 9: But I've always been away, so I've seen him on 526 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 9: holidays and stuff. 527 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: But and we were fine. 528 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: But it wasn't like you guys want to. 529 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: He didn't socialize outside of the gatherings. 530 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 5: No. 531 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 9: No, when when he was here, I socialized more with 532 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 9: the kids than him. He was just kind of he's 533 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 9: quiet and and he I don't know, Yeah, I feel 534 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 9: like he just he kind of let Julie lead him 535 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 9: in their life. No, I don't want to say like 536 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 9: he wasn't there for anything, but he just kind of 537 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 9: sat back and let her run the house. So I 538 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 9: think his mom also did that for him before. 539 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: He met Julie. 540 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: So if Julia Beverly was somewhat mothering in her relationship 541 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: with Mike Beasley, it's that same maternal nature that makes 542 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: her murder conviction so unbelievable to all her three brothers, 543 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: including the youngest one, Ricky, who joined us at the table. 544 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: He serves in the United States Air Force and for 545 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: years was in the Air Force on our guard. 546 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 11: I was just shocked at first hearing that that supposedly 547 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 11: Julie did it, and you know, I'm running back through 548 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 11: tilhood memories. I'm just like, there's no way. It's like 549 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 11: it's like if some flat earther was like trying to 550 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 11: tell me that the Earth was flat, There's no way. 551 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 11: But they're trying to tell me, no, it's proof. Now 552 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 11: I'm like no, Like, I mean, that's what I know 553 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 11: my whole life. You know, I've known Julian my whole life. 554 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 11: All these examples about f didn't make sense. 555 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, especially because on holidays she will she'll have two 556 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 9: babies on her you know what I'm saying. She sit 557 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 9: at the kids table, she'll you know what I'm like, 558 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 9: she's she's a When we went to Salem for Nikki's 559 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 9: wedding and she's taking care of other people's kids like 560 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 9: all that, they all just went to her. No one 561 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 9: even asked her to because she just ended up watching 562 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 9: everyone's kids. 563 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: She was a mom went through. 564 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what do you guys think is going to 565 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: go down today? 566 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 10: Well, I'm almost certain it will be a denial. But 567 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 10: like I tell Julie, whatever happens today, it's a positive 568 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 10: move forward. I just hate that she's even in this position. 569 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 10: I think about what she's feeling going through it, and 570 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 10: it bothers me because I can't fix it. 571 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean, the truth means and that's the 572 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 4: thing I mean. 573 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: I want to make it really clear all of you 574 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: guys cared about Jade. Yes, yes, you don't just want 575 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: justice for Julie on us, right, you want justice for Jade. 576 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with Murder on Songbird Road. Now 577 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: back to Murder on Songbird Road. Next, we headed to 578 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: her sentencing, which took place in Williamson County Courthouse in Marion. 579 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: It's a boxy, modern brick building which was apparently built 580 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one, with minimal use of windows who 581 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: as to maximize energy efficiency. The resulting structure resembles an 582 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: industrial warehouse. After clearing security, Bob and I sat in 583 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: the back of the small courtroom, which was clearly divided 584 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: by families and loyalties. Jade's relations sat to the left 585 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: and Beverly's to the right. Local reporter Danny Vaye was there. 586 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 12: Julia Beverly was found guilty in February of murdering j 587 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 12: Beasley in twenty twenty, so it took about eight months 588 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 12: for the sentencing hearing to play out. After the conviction, 589 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 12: Beverly entered the courtroom today in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit. 590 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: I had not met Julia Beverly in person yet, but 591 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: heard her arrival before I saw her. The courtroom quieted 592 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: as a metallic clanking signaled the entrance of a petite 593 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: woman clad in an orange prison issued jumpsuit. Her steps slow, deliberate, 594 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: and waited by the heavy chains that shackled her briteite frame. 595 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: Her hair was down and long, the length underscoring the 596 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: time passed since her arrest nearly three years ago. Beverly's 597 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: face remained blank as she entered the room until her 598 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: eyes met with those of her eldest son, Jayden, who 599 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: was seated with Renee, and her brothers. She acknowledged them 600 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: all with a slight nod as her mouth gave way 601 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: to a hint of the smile I'd seen on her 602 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: social media, though heavier and short lived. Her face turned 603 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: somber again as she turned towards the bench. All but 604 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: the top of her head was engulfed by her chair. 605 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 12: Once seated, Judge Stephen Green considering a motion today to 606 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 12: a new trial that was filed by the defense just 607 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 12: a couple of days ago, but Judge Green denied the 608 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 12: motion due to substantial evidence presented at the trial. And 609 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 12: before Green read the sentence, a family member from the 610 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 12: Beasley side was allowed to read a victim impact statement 611 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 12: saying that Beasley's death will continue to haunt the family. 612 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: Mike Beasley was seated with a woman I recognized from 613 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: his social. 614 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 4: Media posts as Brooke. 615 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: They apparently worked together for years a cracker barrel, and, 616 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: according to their social media timelines, appear to have started 617 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: a relationship within months after the murder. This didn't go 618 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: unnoticed by Beverly's friends and family. According to screen grabs, 619 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: Renee has shared Brookes social media often appeared to target Beverly, 620 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: her friends and family, while very much implying she was 621 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: now raising Beverly's three youngest children as her own. In 622 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: one post, she snuggles Beverly's youngest son, who was born 623 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: after Beverly's arrest, with the caption I may not have 624 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: given birth to you, but you will always be my baby. 625 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: Another one shows the infant, whose name has apparently been 626 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: changed to Caine, wearing a Navy shirt emblazoned with the 627 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: words raised by an awesome Mama. Renee Higtower finds this 628 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: especially painful given her absolute lack of access to her 629 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: grandchildren since the murder. Pain that is further compounded by 630 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: the details of Beverly's birth while in custody of Williamson 631 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: County Jail awaiting trial. They remain deeply disturbing. We'll break 632 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: them down in much more detail in our next episode. 633 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: Back to the sentencing, this courtroom was packed. 634 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 12: There was sixty people inside the courtroom to hear the 635 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 12: sentence and of increased police presence there. 636 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: No recording was allowed, but mad and I were able 637 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: to bring in small pads and writing implements. 638 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 12: Special Prosecutor Jennifer Mudge recommended a sentence of over forty 639 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 12: five years. The defense countered with a recommendation of the 640 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 12: minimum twenty years, and they say because Beverly had no 641 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 12: prior criminal history, Green said he took everything into account 642 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 12: and then handed down a fifty five year sentence. 643 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: The reaction in the courtroom was as immediate as it 644 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: was polarizing. 645 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 12: Some of the Beasley family were driven to tears as 646 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 12: they heard the sentence. Beverly was also in tears and 647 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 12: was allowed to hug multiple family members before being taken 648 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 12: into custody and escorted to the Williamson County Jail. 649 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: After the sentencing, Mada and I compared notes. 650 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 2: Watching the dynamics in the courtroom was really interesting because 651 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm always on the other side of the bar. This 652 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 2: is really the first time I've ever been in the gallery, 653 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: like washing it as a straight up observer, and it 654 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 2: was really interesting. And we had gone in and we 655 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: had told Renee, look, we're neutral, we're Switzerland, and this 656 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: thing here right now. 657 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: But there were only two places you could sit right 658 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: and there was no room on Mike's Mike's side and 659 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: Jessica's family. 660 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: Side, so we had no choice. It was just a 661 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: really interesting dynamic. After the sentence was laid down by 662 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 2: the judge, we see these two opposite sides. We see weeping, sadness, 663 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: truly getting last hugs with her loved. 664 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: Ones, sobbing as she hugs her eldest son, Yeah, Jade 665 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: and goodbye. 666 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: And we see joy, which seems so. 667 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 4: Odd. 668 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: Doesn't cure anything, you know what I'm saying. 669 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 4: It doesn't. 670 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't make anything better, It doesn't heal the wound. 671 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: I guess it's like it's the only form of justice 672 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 2: that we have. But the question that we have now 673 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: is it justice. It's not justice if the wrong person 674 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: has just been sentenced fifty five years in prison because 675 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: she didn't. 676 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: Do it, and if she didn't do it, that means 677 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: whoever killed Jade it's still out the But what stuck 678 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: out to both of us was the theme of religion. 679 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: When Jade's great aunt on behalf of the family addressed 680 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: Beverly before her sentencing, the word Christianity was almost wielded 681 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: as a weapon, and that Beverly had not won because 682 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: the children would be raised Christians, and the victim impact statement. 683 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 4: It was very interesting that when she. 684 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: Listed Mike and Julie's three children, she really punched the 685 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: fact that they had changed her son, the infant she 686 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: gave birth to in jail, and they changed it to Cain, 687 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: as in canaan Abel, cana Abel witches Bible, Cain killed Abel. 688 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: Towards the end of that statement, Matas scrippled down something 689 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: and tilted his paper towards me. Holy shit, they think 690 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: they're witches. The last word was underlined. 691 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: Darkness the light evil. 692 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: Oh that's what I wrote down in the line, Like. 693 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: They're talking about witches. 694 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 4: This whole darkness cannot drive out darkness, right, that's wild? 695 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 4: All right, you have to get to the airport. 696 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: So tomorrow I'm meeting with two of Julie's best friends, 697 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: one who still is local, can be good stuff. And 698 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: then Leah, Yeah, I'm gonna really hammer them as to 699 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: had they ever seen her loser temper, had she ever 700 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: complained about whether. 701 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 2: Or not fucking witch? I want to know if they're wicked, 702 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: if they're. 703 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they allegend that this was some kind of 704 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: rich or. 705 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 2: Something, because and you saw, like I saw, Renee's necklace 706 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 2: definitely had like some pagan symbal tree or some like 707 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 2: wicked like you know, I mean, it was definitely had 708 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: that vibe to it. 709 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 6: It's a fascinating angle and it could be a motive 710 00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 6: as to why this girl was railroaded, you know. 711 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 2: What I'm saying, Or I mean, that kind of shit 712 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: is frowned upon down here. 713 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: On the next Murder on Songbird Road, we uncover the 714 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: details of Beverly's treatment and custody. 715 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 10: So I get every opportunity to degrade her, or belittle her, 716 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 10: or even torture her. 717 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: They did it, and the controversy surrounding the delivery of 718 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: her son. 719 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 9: The judge ordered Thomas would be taken as soon as 720 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 9: the umbilical cord was cut. 721 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 4: I wanted to scream at that. 722 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: Moment, before I face Julia Beverly in person, she doesn't 723 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: look like her mugshot. 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