1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: More friction. Oh yeah, we saw it on day one 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: in Pad Scott Paul Calvic with me berg Gang. Almost 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: a week in the Cards camp and the Pads finally 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: popped a lot, A full discussion about Monday's practice, plenty 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: of one on one action wide receivers and DB's O 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: line versus D line always must see overall advantage defense 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: on Monday. Plus welcome back Aq Shipley back with the 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: team on the radio. That should be fun. It's Cardinals 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Cover two, Episode nine oh five, and it starts now. 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: P to Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: He's a A ten half pays it again some more hurry magic. 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Graeler. 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Well, we waited almost a week for it here at 18 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Cards camp. The first day in Pads and as promised, 19 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: friction the word of the day and maybe Paul the 20 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: word of the week. As head coach Jonathan Gannon, when 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: asked to believe it was towards the end of the 22 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: off season about training camp and kept mentioning friction. There's 23 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: gonna be more friction. What does that mean? Well, it 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: means some more hitting and maybe a little bit more 25 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: physicality to try to figure out exactly who are the 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: best fifty three to make up this team. 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: More often, right, not only more physicality, but more often 28 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: to a greater degree. I think a to be darn 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: sure your regular season ready not? There weren't a year 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: ago when you led Buffalo seventeen to three, before old 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: Man you had Josh Allen and the Bills on the road, 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: did you not in that Week one debut? But I 33 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: think also to reveal, all right, who are the best 34 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: football players? You can't build a football team without playing football. 35 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: You can't decide on the best fifty three unless you're 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: playing the game itself. And it's designed to be full pads, 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: full speed, full contact, and so very competitive position groups 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: on this roster, you know, unlike the last two years combined, 39 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: I think, really it's that much more competitive this year, 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: and for that reason, you're going to get that much 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: more physicality and friction this year. 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: I liked how Monday's practice was structured because typical years 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: sometimes they would do the one on ones, meaning wide 44 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: receivers corners on one side and offensive lineman one on 45 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: ones on the other side. On Monday, they kind of 46 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: broke it up. The first real friction was one on 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: one wide receivers against TBS and the play of the day, 48 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: the highlight of the day in that aspect was the 49 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: first rep with Marvin Harrison Junior, who made a great 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: one handed grab with Denzel Burke draped all over him, 51 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: so he had OSU versus OSU. But the offensive lineman 52 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: defensive line when we're doing their own things separately, So 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: for us when we're trying to watch everything, it was 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: nice to kind of have a little separation where you 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: could just concentrate on the wide receivers, the pass catchers 56 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: against the defensive backs. 57 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: And then Marvin Arrison Junior had a good rep against 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: Max Melton. That one was a little more competitive, but 59 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 3: he was able to get inside Max Melton and make 60 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: a grab and get some yards after they catch. Now 61 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm extrap lading there, okay, I'm envisioning how the play 62 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: would have materialized if it would have been eleven on eleven. 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: And then Marvin Errison Junior had a touchdown catch and run. 64 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: It was Will Johnson only got caught up in the 65 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: wash on a crosser. So okay, so far, so good. 66 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: One fully padded practice into Cardinals camp. But yes, once again, Craig, 67 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: I think they're structuring it. Not only because I think 68 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: you've heard this before. It's a game of matchups, Craig. 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 3: Is it not a game of matchups, especially when it 70 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: comes to receivers and cover corners, when it comes to 71 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: trying to check various weapons in an offense. But you're 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: also trying to get a sense of, all right, who's equipped, 73 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: who's equipped to make plays, who's equipped to shut down 74 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: the playmakers? And so with that in mind, you know what, 75 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: here we go, Mono Imano. Put these guys out there 76 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: all by their lonesome. Let's see how they compete. And 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: once again, especially in the receiver corner drills, you can 78 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: really tell if the corner is competitive and he's right 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: there step for step in the hip pocket of a receiver, 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: then all right, they're usually doing their job at the 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: same by the same token, they're going to be exposed 82 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: and look really bad and can look inferior to a 83 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: certain receiver. Who's really adept, either with the athleticism or 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: the route running or both. I mean, trying to cover 85 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 3: Greg Dorchin's face. It's really difficult. I mean, Marvin Harrison 86 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: Junior is a different sort of challenge. Now, the physicality 87 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 3: and you know, the whole, you know, the gains in 88 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: the weight room and the whole. Get off me. You know, 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 3: I'm able to shed the press, create separation. But I mean, 90 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: good luck trying to keep up with someone like Greg 91 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: dort who's a professional kick and punt returner in space. 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: And in that. In those drills, the dbs are a 93 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: distinct disadvantage because eleven on eleven you've got help. You're 94 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: forcing them to the sideline. You know, down in distance 95 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: you have somewhat of an idea of what might happen. 96 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: This is just basically I'm gonna read which way you're 97 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: trying to go, and then guess are you gonna break 98 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: to the left, to the rights? Do I backpedal? Do 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: I press? So it's again, it looks good from a 100 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver perspective, and maybe even better if those dbs 101 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: hang with the wide receiver, even though they might get 102 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: quote unquote beat, But hey, you're making it difficult for 103 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: the pass catcher to haul in the ball. 104 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: It's sort of like PBR professional bull riding. How long 105 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: can you stay on the ball without getting thrown off 106 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: because the quarterback isn't getting pressured. There's no clock in 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: the quarterback set. I better get rid of this ball 108 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: in three seconds, are all Josh Sweat is going to 109 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: be killing me from behind. And by the way, we'll 110 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: get to Josh Sweat and what he did to Paris 111 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: Johnson Junior on a single rep. That was good to see. 112 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: So yes to your point advantage offense advantage receiver. It's 113 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: basically how long can the corner or the cover guy 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: stay with the intended target? And look, they go back 115 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: and they watch those films. They watched the film Jonathan 116 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: Gannon's explanation earlier in camp a few practices into camp, 117 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: and it was sort of a confusing question by a 118 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 3: media member as to what they do with the film 119 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: during camp. But his explanation that they'll watch it right 120 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: after practice, and then they come back and they watch 121 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 3: it two or three more times after dinner, and they 122 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: get up the next morning they watch the same practice 123 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: video again. I was stupefied and stunned. I get it 124 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: this just in there's a lot of film studying in 125 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: the NFL. I had no idea that in a training 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: camp practice, the decision makers will watch it what sounds 127 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: like a half dozen times, from the end of one 128 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: practice to the start of another. 129 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: And the key is, according to JG, you see something 130 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: different each time you watch it, and hopefully it's something 131 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: that you could present to the player, good or bad, 132 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: to help them get better in the next rep. But yet, 133 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: that's why training camp is so long, and the hours 134 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: that these coaches these assistants put in and then getting 135 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: those cutups from the day's work to give to the 136 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: coaches so they can watch. The coaches came and say, 137 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: all right, this is what I want to present to 138 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: the players later that night or the next day. 139 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: Now, what I'd really like to know if we somehow 140 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: had like a mike or some sort of rogue camera 141 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: in the meeting rooms, I'd love to know what they're 142 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: thinking right here, right now when it comes to cornerbacks 143 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: number twenty eight and number twenty nine, Elijah Jones Denzel 144 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: Burke two draft picks the last couple of years. Elijah Jones, 145 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: really it's his rookie ear because he missed almost the 146 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: entirety of last season, at least in terms of game action, 147 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: he did all right. So now with the season ending 148 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: injury to Starling Thomas the fifth, what does that mean? Hey, 149 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: there's an opportunity, a window just open for someone in 150 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: that cornerback room to make this fifty three that otherwise 151 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: might not have. So it is like, so on right now, 152 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: Denzel Burke against Elijah Jones and so yes, it was 153 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: intriguing to see will Johnson and it was great to 154 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: see Max Meltin. I think there's no doubt he has 155 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: taken a step and you know right now he's looking 156 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: to be cornerback one. I think if you have to 157 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: go and put him on, oh, I don't know Week 158 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: one against New Orleans and Chris A Lobby, who's going 159 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: to be the assignment? I would guess it's Max Melton 160 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 3: at this point. But on the back end of that 161 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: corner room, you know a Denzel Burke and an Elijah Jones. Especially. 162 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: My understanding is Denzel Burke really has the ability to 163 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: play inside. So let's just say Garrett Williams plays a 164 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: little more outside in the absence of Starling Thomas the 165 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: fifth this year, and all of a sudden, a Denzel 166 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: Burke if he can really show an aptitude for the 167 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: inside slot corner position, just saying that's somewhere where he 168 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: could carve a role real quick. 169 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot more of Garrett play outside, and 170 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: that was even before stars injury. And we know that 171 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams, predominantly an outside corner in college, gets drafted, 172 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: misses that half of that first season comes in as 173 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: your slot guy excels. But when you're down to your 174 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: starters from a year ago, talking about Sean Murphy, Berntin 175 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: and Starling Thomas, if you're running two corners and two safeties, 176 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: your top two corners are Garrett Williams and Max Melton 177 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: and then Will Johnson. But if you're running three corners, 178 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: then you've got Maxinwell on the outside and you slide 179 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: Garrett into the inside. And then we did see six 180 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: DB's a couple of times on Monday, and he with 181 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: three safeties, Buddha, JT and Rabbit. So those are your 182 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: I think your top six defensive backs at least right now, 183 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens, but those are your top 184 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: six that at Denzel Burke, a key, Trell Clark or 185 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: Elijah Jones are trying to knock on the door and 186 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: say I want to be part of this rotation. 187 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: It is intriguing to see the three safeties in different settings. Yes, 188 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: in dime where there's or there's six dbs, three corners 189 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: and three safeties, but you also see the three safeties 190 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: out there with Mac Wilson Senior as the lone inside backer. 191 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: That's a really intriguing personnel group. Because to me, I 192 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: think Rabbit is poised to have a real impact this season. 193 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: It took him all of last season to really learn 194 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: the defense, and I had her. He's a really bright, 195 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: really insightful young man, and he was really honest about 196 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: what a difficult challenge it was to master the Nick 197 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: Ross JG defense because it was so radically different than 198 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: what they ran to Texas Tech. And at the very 199 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 3: end of last year December and January, he really felt 200 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: like he was playing and not thinking. So now go ahead. 201 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: Advanced through the offseason into this training camp. I think 202 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: he's just one of those guys you never get a 203 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: true appreciation for him until it's a game situation, sort 204 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: of like a Buddhist like a Jalen Thompson, flying around, 205 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: high velocity safety, seek and destroy. And I do think 206 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: by the end of the preseason games, Rabbit's gonna make 207 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: a push to get a lot of reps. And I 208 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: think because of that, you're gonna see a lot of 209 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 3: three safety alignments. 210 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: I think with Nick Ralis and it's always all right, 211 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: who are the best eleven for that series, that half 212 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: that game, And I think Rabbit it's gonna he's gonna 213 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: make it very difficult for this defensive coaching staff to 214 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: keep him on the sideline. And I think we saw 215 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: some of that last season when he did get opportunity, 216 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: especially when Jalen Thompson was out and Rabbit got the start. 217 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: He's always around the football. We've talked about that previously 218 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two. It's just he has a 219 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: football iq and football instincts that for a young player, 220 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: it's hard not to not notice and say, all right, well, 221 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: we got to figure out a way to play him again. 222 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to start to play one hundred percent 223 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: of the defensive snats, but get him on the field somehow. 224 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: And look, just like James Connor is rubbed off on 225 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: Trey Benson in the running style. I do think Buddha 226 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 3: Baker and Jalen Thompson have rubbed off on Rabbit and 227 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: his willingness just to fly and throw his body into 228 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: the fray with impunity. And you're thinking, well, wait a minute, now, 229 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: if they're gonna go a lot of three safety alignments, 230 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: guess what A team's just gonna come out there and 231 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: cram it vertigal against the Cardinals. Well that's where this 232 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: new and improved defensive line comes in. So if you 233 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: really trust your defensive line, it can give you the 234 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: luxury of not only keeping your inside backers clean, but 235 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: I think can give you the luxury of being more 236 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: athletic in the back end. As Drew Standon has made 237 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: the point repeatedly on Red Sea Report, guys like us 238 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: are always talking about, oh, can you affect the quarterback 239 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: rush the quarterback with four? No, the first question is 240 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: can you stop the run with four? And if you 241 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: can do that, now, all of a sudden, right, what 242 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: is Nick Rols gonna do with the back seven? And 243 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: all those personnel groups who just mentioned those are all 244 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: in play this season. I firmly believe that let's. 245 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: Talk about the main event, and it's always offensive line 246 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: versus defensive line. Again, one on ones, full pads. You 247 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: brought it up already. The first rep Josh Wett, the 248 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: free agent edition against your franchise left tackle Paris Johnson Junior. 249 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: And yes, Josh Wett won the first rep. Paris I 250 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: think held his own in the second rep. But whether 251 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: it was something that Paris wasn't ready for or caught 252 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: off guard, but there was a move and it was 253 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: the strength that looked like of Joshwtt that kind of 254 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: got the better of Paris. 255 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: He seemed to get underneath Paris and sort of, you know, 256 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: get getting sort of jack him up a little bit, 257 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: so Paris lost his center of balance. And then now 258 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: you could easily contend that within two to three seconds 259 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 3: that ball is gone and Joshwett never actually gets to 260 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. But beyond that, because yes, then Paris rebounded. 261 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: He most definitely wanted the second rep and he redeemed himself. 262 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: I just had flashbacks of DJ Humphries against Chandler Jones, 263 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: two dudes making each other better. And I think for 264 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Junior, if he wants to be if he 265 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: wants to advance from a really good left tackle to 266 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 3: an elite perennial Pro Bowl slash All Pro left tackle. 267 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: I think someone like Josh Sweat is going to be 268 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: integral to that improvement. D J. Humpries would tell us 269 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: in the Big Red Rage all the time how much 270 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: better Chandler Jones made him, And Chandler Jones would tellhim 271 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: after practice, well, I went with this because you were 272 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: showing that, and so there were little things, you know, 273 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: what tells. I mean, it's amazing when you talk. And 274 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: we did this with Evan Brown the other day. It 275 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, they're always looking at what your stance, 276 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: where you are in your alignment, where's your hand, your feet, 277 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: and there's little tells and so they're helping each other 278 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: out and a lot of times that'll dictate what sort 279 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: of pass rush move a really elite pass rusher will use. 280 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: And not to mention, guess what Josh Sweat is. He's 281 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: every bit of six five two sixty five. So for 282 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Junior, Now what are they listen him at 283 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: three twenty something? Paris Johnson Junior? 284 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: This on Paris he is, yes, three twenty? Where is 285 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: he at three twenty five. Okay, so he's he's added 286 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: ten pounds from where he was listed a year ago. 287 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: So to see that, then to see Dalvin Tomlinson against 288 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: the desert biking, yelled to fro Hold. There was a 289 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: heavyweight bout. To see Darius Robinson against Evan Brown, to 290 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: see Kalis Campbell over on the other side going against 291 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: Isaiah Adams. 292 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: And that, I think to your point about wide receivers 293 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: and DB's what can you learn and do you feel 294 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: better about someone at a particular position. What do we 295 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: talk about with Isaiah Adams at right guard? When the 296 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: pads come on and all of a sudden, you're lined 297 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: up against someone, how do you look? And I was 298 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: impressed because I thought Isaiah held his own against Kleis 299 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: and that, at least for a first impression, is a 300 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: good sign to come. Maybe we start answering that question 301 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: as far as right guard. Can it be Isaiah Adams 302 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: week one and be that guy and not worry about 303 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: him because he's worked on his footwork, he's gotten a 304 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: little stronger. Yes, he gives up some weights and he 305 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: gives up some height to a Kalayas camel. But it 306 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: certainly looked like his feet were where they needed to be, 307 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: his hands were where they needed him to be, and 308 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: it just looked like we're talking about Kalayas who's seen everything. 309 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, he might be getting up there in age, 310 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: but that's a big guy that is going to win 311 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: more one on one matchups than most. But I liked 312 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: what I saw with Isaiah Adams in there. It was 313 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: markedly different than a year ago. I mean, let's just 314 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: say it, because if you were out there at practice 315 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: a year ago, we can go on Twitter right now. 316 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: You can even see some of the reps that I 317 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: tweeted out a year ago. You know, physically he was 318 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: getting bull rushed Isaiah Adams, It's not the case anymore. 319 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: I had a conversation with him in the locker room 320 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: the other day because he was on the Big Rage 321 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: Red Rage two months ago, and he talked about how 322 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: he went from around three fifteen to closer to three 323 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: twenty five. Although his weight fluctuates. More importantly, he's much 324 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: stronger and in the lower half. They really put an 325 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: emphasis on that in the squad Rack and beyond, and 326 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: I said, can you feel it out there? I know 327 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: you're not in full pads yet, this is prior to 328 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: the Monday practice. He said, Oh yeah, I can already 329 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: tell even just holding up against guys and in some 330 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: of the half speed and and you know. 331 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: He said, I feel really good. I feel much stronger. 332 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 3: So with that comes to the confidence that when you're 333 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: lined up across from Kalais Campbell, Dalvin Thomason, he talked 334 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: about that some of the elite three techniques he went 335 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 3: against as a rookie. Wow, can I physically hang with 336 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: these grown men? With these dudes? And so now what 337 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: I think we all want to see, at least I 338 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: speak for myself, would be Isaiahdams against Dalvin Tomlinson. That's 339 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: the next one wolf point into this whole thing about 340 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: Kalaiis is the rectangle and Dalvin Thomlinson is the square. Okay, 341 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: so you held your own against the rectangle. Now let's 342 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: see it against the three hundred and thirty five pounds square. 343 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, they just adjusted the weight, so you 344 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 3: think they might adjust that again three thirty five. You're 345 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 3: sure he's still not sandbagging on that one. So if 346 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: they're gonna be watching the film, I'm guessing the decision 347 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: makers also want to see Isaiah Adams against Dalvin Tomlinson 348 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: to your point, to make darn sure they have the 349 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: confidence that the right side of that line is regular 350 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: season ready, because if it isn't Isaiah Adams, you know, 351 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: as much as we made about that, where's his real 352 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 3: competition right now? 353 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: Initially I thought it was gonna be Royce Newman based 354 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: off of what we kind of saw a little bit 355 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: in the offseason and the fact that he has the experience, 356 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 1: He has the starts more so than an Isaiah Adams. True, 357 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: but again, does he have the proper footwork, does he 358 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: have the hand placement, the strength? Can he really protect? 359 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: And it looked and I wasn't paying too much attention 360 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: to what Newman was doing out there. I was more 361 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: looking at that first team offensive line, and Okay, this 362 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: is the first true test, and I think Isaiah Adams 363 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: did more than just pass the test. Now it's okay, 364 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: what do you do Tuesday, what do you do the 365 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: next day? What do you do during preseason? And then 366 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: can you keep this up to where there's not that inconsistency? 367 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: And then you know, to your point on how sometimes 368 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: last season when he did get in there, he was 369 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: overwhelmed and maybe that was to be expected because he's 370 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: a first year player, but getting his feet wet with 371 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: those five starts last year. Talking about Isaiah Adams, did 372 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: he come into the offseason feeling better about himself, understanding 373 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: where he needed to get better? Look on tape, Okay, 374 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: learn from your mistakes. You're not going to get it 375 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: all right at all at the same time or right away, 376 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: but can you work on those things and then come 377 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: out on Monday, first day at pads and show yes, 378 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: I am a different player. I am a better player 379 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: than when you all saw me last in Week eighteam I. 380 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: Mean, honestly, if you asked me the biggest question on 381 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: this team right here, right now, it would be the 382 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: two guard positions. Just because of your quarterback. We know 383 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 3: Kyler is athletic enough to dodge any sort of rusher, 384 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: but over the years, if there's one piece of kryptonite 385 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: to Kyler's game, it would be the interior pass rush. 386 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 3: It is problematic for any quarterback. Drew stan jokes about. 387 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 3: You know, they quarterbacks call it the Santa Claus effect. 388 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, you get a three hundred and 389 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: thirty pound dude in your lap. Hence Santa Claus. So 390 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 3: to me, if you can go into the season and 391 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: you feel really good about your interior old line, in 392 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: particular two guard spots, let's ball. I mean, honestly, at 393 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 3: this point, I think you have enough. Definitely have enough 394 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 3: in the run game. You have enough in the tight 395 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: end position. I mean, there's such optimism in the tight 396 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 3: end position. I've had a number of people on the 397 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 3: sideline say I think we have the deepest tight end 398 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: room in the league. Like interesting, I haven't gone and 399 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: looked at the personnel of every you know, who else 400 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 3: do the Niners have? Who else do the Chiefs have? 401 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: Who else do the now the Ravens, you know with 402 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: Mark Andrews and Isaiah Likely Okay, just off the top 403 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: of my head, but yeah, I if Elijah Higgins is 404 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: about to have a bit of a breakout season as 405 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: a pass catcher, I don't know where all the target's 406 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: gonna come. So's that's wishful thinking, especially if you're number 407 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 3: eighty four yourself. But if Tip Ryman can involved a 408 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: little bit more into the past game, yeah, I mean 409 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: this might be a run first, tight end second. Considering 410 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: Trey mcbriden, the record setting year he had wide receiver 411 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: third type offense that would be intriguing. 412 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: As long as you're winning games. And we heard from 413 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: Drew Petsing earlier on Monday before practice and we're all 414 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: peppering them with questions about the difference and chunk throws 415 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: and how much better and how much more we will 416 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: see Kyler run with the football and he just kind 417 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: of I wouldn't say pushed back, but it was like, 418 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: what do we have to do to win that day? 419 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: How do we score one more point than our opponent? 420 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: And I get some of that as coach speak, and 421 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: then there's some of it because we've heard it now 422 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: for two plus years Paul, that this is what they believe. 423 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: They don't have a quote unquote scheme they want or 424 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: they would prefer to do it this way. Do we 425 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: have the to do it this way? And I think 426 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: offensively they do with James Connor running the football and 427 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: train McBride as you're tied in. And then defensively, I 428 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: think for the first time Nick Roalis has the pieces 429 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: that he needs to do what he wants to do, 430 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: whether that is more four or five man fronts, more 431 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: exotic looks. Mac Wilson, Senior by himself in the middle 432 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: six dbs. You know that traditional four three three four. 433 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: I just we're gonna keep track, but I just don't 434 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: think they see it offensively and defensively as we do 435 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: when it comes to all right, what are you as 436 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: an offense? 437 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 3: What are you as a defense? You know, it's interesting. 438 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: We had a chance to talk to Greg Dortch an 439 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 3: interview you will hear on the Red Sea Report, and 440 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: when you asked him about being a punt returner, he 441 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: referred to the defense and how many more shorter fields 442 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 3: and how many more punts period opportunities hee can expect 443 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 3: when you have a top half of the NFL type defense, 444 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 3: because all of a sudden, guess what they're there's a 445 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 3: lot more three and outs, there's a lot more favorable 446 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 3: field position. Uh. And so for him, he's licking his chops. 447 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: He's like, Hey, I'm gonna get this many more punt 448 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: returns because our defense is forcing those punts a lot 449 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 3: of three and outs. Guess what, I'm gonna be catching 450 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 3: a lot more of them somewhere around midfield or so, 451 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: and hopefully that'll create more room. Well, can't you say 452 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: the same for the offense If the defense is giving 453 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: you better more favorable field position. If the defense and 454 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: once again you know my hot take breakout the oven mit. 455 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: If you go from nine interceptions a year ago and 456 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 3: you double it this year because of the way you're 457 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 3: affecting the quarterback and because some of the ball hawking 458 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: playmakers you have in your secondary, of all of a 459 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 3: sudden you have eighteen interceptions. Let's just say you have 460 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: a significantly improved number of takeaways on defense that benefits 461 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: the offense, people position, more possessions, et cetera. Yeah, the defense, 462 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: to your point, Craig, is something that can ultimately improve 463 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: all three phases this year. And look, based on what 464 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: we saw and we talked about this, had a little 465 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 3: bit of intel from the manager mini camp, and have 466 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: we not seen it come to fruition and materialize here 467 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: in training camp, especially the first eleven on eleven you 468 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: know drills we had in the first full pads. The 469 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: defense is giving the offense all it can handle. And 470 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: to me, if there's one headline a week into Cardinals camp, 471 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: is that the investment you made into the defense, there 472 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: is return on investment. So far you are seeing a 473 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: different unit on that side of the ball, and they're 474 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: letting the offense know about it. They're very vocal, they're 475 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 3: barking about it, they're trash talking about it. I mean, 476 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: if I'm the offense right now after the first padded practice, 477 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: I'm back at the team hotel and I'm seeing a 478 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: little bit like, Okay, we got to raise our level 479 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 3: of play. Maybe the last couple of years we sort 480 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 3: of had our way against our defense, not anymore. 481 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: To that point. Kyler Murray post practice, asked about the 482 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: first padded practice, felt like one of those days where 483 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: nothing could go right because the defense was so dominant. 484 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: And I do use the word dominant. The first play 485 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: Mac Wilson Senior, who I think right now might be 486 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: the MVP of training camp. He is making play after 487 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: play after play. Hello, he picked off Kyler on a 488 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: pass over the middle intended for Marvin Harrison Junior. And 489 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: what was it the other day? The first eleven on 490 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: eleven it was Mac batting down a pass, a screen 491 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: pass in the flat ye on a pass thrown by 492 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. So this defense, whether it's the defensive line 493 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: or that second level, or trying to figure out how 494 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: you move around six different defensive backs because they're all 495 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: so good and you can't all play at the same time. 496 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe you can. But yeah, the defense right now 497 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: overall might be the story of camp. But if I'm 498 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: going to single out a player because he's all over 499 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: the field, it's Mac that's. 500 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: In a stude observation. You know, they may want to 501 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: bust out the bubble wrap for him real soon. He 502 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: does look regular season ready right now, Mac Wilson Senior. 503 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 3: And what do we speculate in not bringing back Kaiser White? 504 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: We all sort of wondered, all right, hmmm, why what 505 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: are they looking for that? Maybe they didn't get out 506 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: of Kaiser And I think the best answer to that, 507 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 3: and we speculated about this and the offseason was just 508 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: more athleticism, the ability to go sideline to sideline, the 509 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: ability to get into the passing lanes, definitely, the ability, 510 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 3: you know, greater ability and coverage against running backs and 511 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 3: tight ends. Well, Mac Wilson Sr. Is an athletic guy, 512 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: and you know what his instincts because we all know 513 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: how'm boarding the instincts are at inside linebacker. You can 514 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 3: be the most athletic doing on the field, Hassan Reddick. 515 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: But if you're not experienced at inside linebacker. You don't 516 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 3: have those instincts and you take a false step, you're done. 517 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 3: So right now, McWilson Senior has the experience and and 518 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: and I think he has the knowledge. And Zamon Collins 519 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: talked about this how much it helped him being on 520 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 3: the edge after having played inside linebacker. You just you really, 521 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: you know the entirety of the defensive front. You know 522 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: what to expect because you've played off the ball and 523 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: played on the line of scrimmage as an outside and 524 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 3: inside backer. And I think mac Wilson Senior benefits from 525 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: that as well because he's been so versatile over the 526 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 3: last couple of years. 527 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: We've gone almost thirty minutes here, Paul, and I'm surprised 528 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: you haven't brought this up sooner. Maybe they didn't catch it, 529 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: but your hot take of the offense as far as 530 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: the defense was concerned and the inside linebacker position was concerned. 531 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: Did you see who was happening or who happened to 532 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: line up next to Mac on a series after that interception? 533 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: It was number twenty five? What's it really? Collins was 534 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: playing inside linebacker in early periods of eleven on eleven 535 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,959 Speaker 1: again now he was playing outside as well. But that 536 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: versatility that this coaching staff loves. I mean, no one 537 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: loves Davin Collins more than this defensive coaching staff. And 538 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: I do think you're gonna see him on both level off, 539 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: maybe all three levels. I mean we saw him cover 540 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill in Miami. I still don't know how that happened, 541 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: but yes, two hundred and seventy pounds Daven Collins. Remember 542 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: he is ten pounds heavier than he was a year ago. 543 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: But he and Mack Wilson Senior side by side for 544 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: a rep. Actually it was a couple of different reps 545 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: and then Zavian subbed out. Owen Pappo got to run 546 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: it inside linebacker, and then we saw Zevon go back 547 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: as an outside linebacker and rush the quarterback. But yeah, 548 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: Zavion is going to be utilized a lot in a 549 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: lot of different positions, which we've heard him say, Yeah, 550 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: I play six seven different positions, so it's not unusual. 551 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: But it was a little bit I opening this early 552 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: in cap that. 553 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: Is really intriguing. I miss that probably because I was 554 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: going back to the highlights on my phone trying to 555 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: tweet it out, which I failed to do until after 556 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: practice anyway. So it was a double loss for yours truly, 557 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: but it makes complete sense. And if you're looking for 558 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: a method to the madness and some of the players 559 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 3: they have drafted, guess what. Jordan Birch has a very 560 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: similar body type to a Zae and Collins. Now you're 561 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: not gonna see Jordan Burchett inside backer, but they're dang 562 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: near the same measurables, and they both are very explosive 563 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: and very quick. So let's see here, if Josh Sweat 564 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 3: is your main stay on one edge and Jordan Burcher 565 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: is able to you know, Earn reps a Baron Browning, 566 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: who I mean he put on fifteen pounds. That makes 567 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: sense actually, I mean when we saw Baron brown are like, wow, 568 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: he looks like a different guy, especially his lower half, 569 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: and so okay, if he's a guy you have out 570 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: there off the edge. And then don't forget Craig I was. 571 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: It was the Week eighteen game against the forty nine ers, 572 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: a season final a year ago. I went back at 573 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: ATO on DVR. Don't ask why, it doesn't really matter, 574 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 3: and it was early in the first quarter and there 575 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: was Zamon Collins on a key third and long passing 576 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: situation the Niners were faced with and Zamon Collins was 577 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: playing the nose standing up, So you just never know 578 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: what Nick Ralis is going to dial up. But you 579 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: have all these different guys capable of playing. We've seen 580 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson outside at a five technique, You've seen him inside, 581 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 3: and so we know Dalvin Thomlinson talks about, yeah, play 582 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 3: square up right over the nose. I'll play. You know, 583 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: Kalais has the ability to play anywhere along the defensive front. 584 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 3: So I think the constant is just gonna be the 585 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: chaos that they create. And you know, I'm gonna say 586 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 3: it right now. If Tyler Shook is the rookie quarterback 587 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: making his debut, you talk about seeing ghosts, He's gonna 588 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: be seeing a lot of different things. I mean, they're 589 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: gonna show him everything in the kitchen sink, just because 590 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 3: he's making his NFL debut. Anything that he sees in August, 591 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: the Cardinals are gonna put on film in the preseason. 592 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: That's gonna be a false positive right there, because I 593 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: would guess this wouldn't happen against the Matthew Stafford, I 594 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: don't think, But against a rookie. They they will dial 595 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: it up for the sake of dialing. 596 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: It up, and with the ability and the versatility of 597 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: a number of these players. When you're in the regular 598 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: season and you've got the Arizona Cardinals on that Sunday, 599 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: offensive coaches, what you look at the previous four games, 600 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: Typically it's a four game sample size. Well, if you've 601 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: got if you're Nick rawlis there, you might have four 602 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: different defensive schemes or defensive looks in those four games 603 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: before you play that set opponent. So if you're Sean 604 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: McVeigh or Kyle Shanahan, what am I preparing for? Because 605 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: I've seen Zavin Collins as an outside linebacker, I've seen 606 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: him as an inside linebacker. We've seen six dbs, We've 607 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: seen Mac Wilson by himself in the middle of the defense. 608 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna make life more difficult for opposing offenses to 609 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: try to figure out, all right, just what is this 610 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: defense that Nick Rowlis has here in your three. 611 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: Don't think the Cardinals aren't saving something for Week three 612 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 3: against the forty nine ers. They're not saving something for 613 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 3: Week four against the Seahawks. Guaranteed those two division rivals 614 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: will see something that they had yet to put on 615 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: film this year. So that's a good point. I like that. 616 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: And then I'm also curious to see, all right, how 617 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: often are they gonna start mugging the A gaps and 618 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: you know, overloading the front or is he truly gonna 619 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: is he gonna ride with four down linemen and rush 620 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: for and see what happens. It's really a luxury. Nick 621 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: Rows has not had the last couple of years the 622 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: ability to say, Okay, I'm just gonna rush my best 623 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: for and I'm gonna play coverage and dial up the 624 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: back seven. And the times that he has tried that 625 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: is not gone well. For the Cardinals defense. Let's be honest, 626 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 3: there's a reason they invested one hundred million plus in 627 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: their defensive front in the offseason. 628 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: A solid first day in pads for the Cardinals defense 629 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: and Paul for the first time in a very very 630 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: long time, you have to break in a brand new 631 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: person in the radio booth. Or maybe it's the gentleman 632 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: over to my left, our executive producer, jim On Mahundro. 633 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: But it is official. The Arizona Cardinals have named their 634 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: new color analyst Welcome Back, a Q Shipley replacing Ron Wolfley. 635 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: Twenty years he was with you and Dave Pash. But 636 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: now Aq is going from the field to the booth, 637 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: a familiar name, familiar face. Five years with the Arizona Cardinals, 638 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: fifty one starts in the sixty games he played, and 639 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: he do think it's going to be now. Look, you're 640 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: never going to replace Aron Wolfley, No one can. But 641 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: I am looking forward to hearing and then seeing Aq 642 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: as well. He'll appear on a number of platforms and 643 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: be a brand ambassador for the organization as well. But 644 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: Aq Shipley your new color analyst for the Arizona Cardinals 645 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: radio network. 646 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: Look Aq, much like wolf is football. 647 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: That is true. 648 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 3: He's the epitome of football. We had the pleasure of 649 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 3: covering him during his Cardinals career, you know, just talking 650 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: ball with him at his locker. It's such a natural 651 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 3: extension of his personality, of his brand, if you will, 652 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, he probably wouldn't even use that term, 653 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: but for him to come on and then do what 654 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 3: he does so well in the McAfee show, which is 655 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: the infotainment Yes, have fun with it right, credible, substantive, 656 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: insightful analysis mixed with the entertainment of the game, which 657 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: Wolfe was a master at will always be a master 658 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 3: at doing exactly that. Look, Craig, I mean, this is 659 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 3: just my belief and I think you share this. People 660 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 3: don't come to sports and football in particular on their 661 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: Sundays for some sort of lecture, some sort of calculous 662 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: examful of analytics. 663 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: Right. 664 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: Yes, they care about their team, Yes they want to 665 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 3: be informed, but they want to be entertained as well. 666 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 3: It's an escape for all of us. That's what sports is, 667 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 3: especially in America twenty twenty five. It's our escape where 668 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: we can all come together as one and cheer have 669 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: a common cause, and that would be Arizona Cardinals football. 670 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 3: So I'm just looking through his Twitter account. My goodness, 671 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: he's gotten some I mean, Adam Schefter, the McAfee show, 672 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of football luminaries. You know, somebody 673 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: knows him real well, the shortest arms in radio. Let's 674 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 3: go ship. That's a solid tweet right there. 675 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: Oh to that point, I mean, there's an article up 676 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: on Easycardinals dot com on the announcement and AQ spoke 677 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: with Darren and I remember because we covered AQ and 678 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: it seemed like every single year the Cardinals were trying 679 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: to find someone to replace Aq as the starting center. True, 680 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: and Aq was very self aware, and I remember it, 681 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: and he would always talk about how he was too short, 682 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: his arms were too short. And he brought that up 683 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: again talking with Darren about quote when I played, I 684 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: was two inches too short. My arms were two inches 685 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: too short. How did I stay in the league all 686 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: that time? I took it very seriously, studied my tail off, 687 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: and felt that I was tougher and worked harder than most. 688 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: I'll take the same aspect into this, meaning working alongside 689 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: day Patch and yourself Paul on the Arizona Cardinals radio network. 690 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: He's a little younger than Wolfels, so I'm going to 691 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 3: be really really aware of any sort of zingers I 692 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: throw out there. You know, I was pretty confident I 693 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: could outrun wolfully out of the booth, you know, the 694 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: short distance, the short distance burst. I think I had 695 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: Wolf now long distance, his strides would get me Aq. Now, aq' 696 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: is a former wrestling champion, so it could be a 697 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: little different. I'm gonna have to tread a little lightly 698 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: around Aq. But no, he does it great, you know him. 699 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: He can he can definitely deliver the trash talk, but 700 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 3: he can take a joke as well. I mean, when 701 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: you come from the old line room, okay, I just 702 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: you come out very shall we say, well adjusted, you 703 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 3: have a good perspective on life. And really that was 704 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 3: his uh, that was his post, that was his graduate school. 705 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: Just being in an old line room for more than 706 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 3: a decade. And I can't wait to hear this sort 707 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 3: of insight he brings to Cardinals Radio. 708 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: By the way, the first time you'll be able to 709 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: hear AQ on Cardinals Radio first preseason game August ninth 710 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs, five pm is the kickoff 711 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: here at State Farm Stadium. Now, I do you bring 712 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: up the fact that the old line room and it 713 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: occurred to me, Aq' is a rookie are there rookie 714 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 1: duties years on the Cardinals Radio network and everyone else? 715 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, do we what we would we do? Can 716 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: we get it? Can we first? Can we get away 717 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: with it? What AQ even, well. 718 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: He doesnow us to he doesn't know what he doesn't know, 719 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: so don't so don't tell him. It's really not a tradition. 720 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 3: But we'll start it right now. Well, just twenty years ago, Ron, 721 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 3: we'll lee did this right, Yeah, we know what Wolf 722 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: would would tell me to do with any sort of 723 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 3: you know, snack order I gave him, but AQ doesn't 724 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: know otherwise. So that's a great point, you know, So 725 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 3: we need to think about it now. Currently the O 726 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 3: line room favors hot dogs, which is interesting. No thanks, 727 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 3: but there there are you know, there are some good 728 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: snap I'm gonna get my snack list going, and uh, 729 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 3: that may be a good video moment. When he comes 730 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: into the booth the first time. Maybe we'll put him 731 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: on camera and uh, we say, you know, AQ, here's 732 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: is the rookie. Here we go and so agreed, give 733 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 3: me your order and then we'll pass along to a 734 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 3: Q when he comes in into the booth there for 735 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 3: the preseason open up. 736 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: As long as it's you that's telling him this and 737 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: not me, and I'll just observe in the background, maybe 738 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: a little side angle filming as he throws you out 739 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: of the booth before that first preseason game. 740 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: That's the other reason we want it on camera. Okay, 741 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 3: we need film we of this and so, and we 742 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 3: need to make him away he's on camera before he 743 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 3: does anything. 744 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: Untoord and all honesty, welcome and welcome back, AQ Shipley. 745 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a lot of fun and 746 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: looking forward to hearing him and Pash all season long 747 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully for the next twenty years. I mean, if 748 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: Ron Woefully did it for twenty why can't Aq do 749 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: it for twenties? 750 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 3: That's right, And you know, Pash is a lifer. Pash 751 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 3: will be doing for me. He doesn't know it yet, 752 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 3: but he's gonna be doing for the next twenty because 753 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Pash is that good, Pash 754 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: is that valuable as the voice of the Arizona Cardinals. 755 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 3: So no, I'm looking forward to it, and there's no 756 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 3: doubt I think by the end of the season. I mean, 757 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 3: you know, once he gets comfortable in that booth, when 758 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 3: his personality comes out because we know him from the 759 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 3: inside out from being in that locker room, fans are 760 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: really going to take a liking to a Q Shipley 761 00:38:59,560 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 3: on the air. 762 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: A great player, even better person a Q Shipley, as 763 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: we welcome him into the fold here with the Arizona Cardinals. 764 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: And on that notes, we will put a lit on 765 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai Proud 766 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 767 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: our executive producer Joe Mama Andre, our associate producer Cody Fincher. 768 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: For Paul Calvc, I'm pig real, Lou. We'll talk to 769 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.