WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: No Cap? 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:03.239 The following. 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.240 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:12.000 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:17.360 This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:18.720 World Head Course at. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.000 The Star in Frisco. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:32.720 Touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:38.120 and Kyle Yeomans. It's an off season addition of Talking 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.879 Cowboys presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:43.920 Star in Frisco, Texas, in. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:45.440 The SWBC studio. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.360 Welcome in, everybody, Glad you're with us. We have the 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.199 full cast and crew back in the fold. That's right, 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:55.880 everybody's ready to roll. We've got Nick Harris, John Machoda, 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:57.840 Isaiah stand Back, Chris Beam in the back. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.080 I'm Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:00.520 Okay. We're doing No One. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:02.840 And only doing well. My my headphones are low, so 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.440 I'm gonna take them off. But doing well, doing fantastic. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:05.800 Yeah. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.120 What you got right there? You got back here? 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.240 What is that that old thing right there? That thing? 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.319 I don't have one? Where's mine? 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:19.360 That's the official twenty four Dallas Cowboys Draft Guide. These 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.160 are the first copies printed. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.440 They're not even available to the public yet I haven't 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.440 even coming soon. Yeah, Nick hadn't even had He wrote 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.280 a good chunk of this thing and he hasn't even 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:30.759 seen it yet. 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:32.839 I feel some type of way right now though there's 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.800 no Washington. There's an Organ guy on here, but not 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:35.640 a Washington guy. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.800 That was a That was a that was a. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.480 Conscious I know, but that was a conscious decision my 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.800 part to leave out watching. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.640 Championship the first their runners up, but. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.760 We beat We beat Organ in the Organ. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.760 Won the center, in the in the country, Oregon was 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:54.880 the whole champion. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:59.320 Is there player gonna get drafted before Washington player? Uh no, no, no, 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.280 we have twolayers wouldet drafted before him? 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.440 I was like, I was like, Fountain, maybe. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.080 We have two players I was gonna get drafted before 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:06.560 Orgon guy. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.240 I'll tell you what disappoints me about this. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.160 Oh no, there's not an athletic logo on there. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.360 That But like for ads like this where they have 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.520 dak huh, Like, how can't you have just Nick Harrison 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:19.200 some of these like. 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.400 Yeah, just me on top of the plane. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.359 All the work that he's put in here, you don't 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.120 have hold him holding some Canada drive. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:31.960 Nick has a has a calendar coming out saying, oh no, I. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:33.639 Would have had to boo me for a photo shoot. This, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.840 that's I heard you on the read. I know you're 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.800 ready for it. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.239 We've got to find a way to fit him. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.799 Some sponsors going to pick him up. Maybe a black rifle, 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:48.359 take out a page ad. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:49.440 Next, what would it take. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.560 For you to have your calendar so fun calendar? 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:56.160 Yes, just a couple of dollars. Oh, shoot, I've heard 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:56.280 of that. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.760 I would I will start to go, don't do that. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.399 Do we get to pick the outfits? Oh? 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:08.680 Man, let's got to be right. I don't get excited. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:09.600 The prices gotta be right. 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.480 What would the price be? Talk about it because you 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.120 have to give four numbers or five? 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.200 You have to give them. My agent might be six, 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:18.079 depending on the office. 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.720 Oh, I don't know if we got that. We don't 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:23.960 have that kind of I can't raise that kind of bread. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:24.280 Now. 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.280 I've heard of it being a fantasy football punishment. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.239 Have you ever heard of that. It's a fantasy where 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:29.840 you do the. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.600 At the end of the season, the last place UH 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.560 player in your fantasy football. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.840 League has to do calendar shoot the body issue. 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:43.480 Yes, let's do it. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.480 Like and and everybody gets a copy. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.320 We're doing this year fantasy football. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.560 Your hands going to stand there for a long time. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.040 I'll do fantasy football, but I'm not doing it calendar. 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:57.400 Yeah, well, just don't lose. 0:03:57.800 --> 0:03:58.920 Oh is that how it works? 0:03:59.440 --> 0:03:59.600 Yeah? 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.560 Because I said that last year and I ended up 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:02.320 taking the s a T. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.280 So it sounds like somebody's never played fancy football because. 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:06.400 I have much luck involved with it. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.440 Absolutely, there is yeah here. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:12.960 For those that are listening, my hand is extended and 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:13.920 looking at it. Right. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:23.200 Surprise, oh surprise. Come on, man, we're gonna raise some funds. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:24.440 Beamer wouldn't lose. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:25.240 That's the thing. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.279 In fact, exactly got that. 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.400 I don't want to play against Beamer in anything, especially cornhole. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.640 Somebody asked me about cornhole last week and I had 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.920 They were like, man, I do, but you're really good 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.760 at cornhole. I was like, actually, I am, actually relatively okay, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.160 except for when I play against guys like Beamer. Because 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.200 Beamer destroyed me, made it seem like I was a 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.920 young boy and he was a Doug on Jedi night 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:47.159 at training camp. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.640 This year, Beamers mister cornhole. 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:54.520 Yes, yeah, I I I take my hat off for him. 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.599 All right, let's get into some news and notes. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.159 There's a couple of things going on and have been 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.279 going on around the Star in first go, mostly after 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.239 related nick Whenever you look at Dallas day thirty visits 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.120 starting this week, the big twelve Pro day was in town. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:08.640 Where do you want to start with those? 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.400 Well, we can also start with owners meetings last week, 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.360 just kind of what wrapped up there in Orlando last week, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.560 the new kickoff rule getting approved, which is it's fascinating 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.760 because they adopted it from the XFL. But then you 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.760 look at the UFL this last weekend and they just 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:23.920 ended up going right back to the normal kickoff rules, 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.840 except they pushed it back to the twenty yard line. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.120 So it's kind of fascinating that they basically just swapped 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:29.760 kickoff rules. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:33.000 But we'll see how that goes into play this next year. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.960 Kickers are incentivized to kick it between the goal line 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.680 and the twenty yard line instead of just kicking it 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.560 out of the end zone as far as they can, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.400 so that'll be an interesting adjustment for Brandon Aubrey and 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.600 then Cavante's turpin. He's gonna have to really dial in 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.640 on his field vision to get some big returns. I 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.240 know I've been critical of his field vision on this 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.720 podcast in the past, so I think there's gonna have 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.400 to be some improvement there with Turpin to be able 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:56.440 to break some of those returns in that new kickoff role. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:06:01.000 But moving past off of owners meetings. Yeah, as you mentioned, Kyle, 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.320 thirty visits this week. Dallas Day was yesterday, Big twelve 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:05.720 Pro Day was this past weekend at the Star. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:07.680 A lot of things happening thirty visits. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.080 Will have a little bit more on the Draft show 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:12.000 on that, but basically they're bringing in thirty of their 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.040 top prospects, you know, the across all seven rounds that 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:16.720 you know they want to talk with and meet with 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.600 more in person, and they'll go through basically a car 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.279 wash talking to people around the building, whether it be 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:26.560 front office coaches, position coaches, strength and conditioning, scouting, all 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.440 of that. It's a really good opportunity for the team 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:30.800 to be able to meet with these guys and get 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.880 a better view of who they are in person. And 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.480 then after that it's it's all full steam ahead. 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:36.839 Into the draft. 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:37.000 Here. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.760 We're getting about three weeks away, which is crazy. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.080 Kind of remember thirty visits, yeah, or Yeah, where did 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:43.760 you take yours? 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.080 I went to I went to Dallas. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.479 To Seattle for like a local day. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.640 He didn't go to Seattle. It was not in their 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:52.039 top thirty. 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:53.320 Did you feel the type of way? 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:54.960 But not even a little bit, not even a little bit. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.800 I went to Dallas, I went to Saint Louis at 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:02.279 the time, I went to Jacksonville in Miami. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.599 Okay, which one was your favorite? 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.880 So to say, there's three really bad airports there, But. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.400 And I had to and I had to fly back 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.960 to I think I was in LA at the time. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.200 I had to fly back to LA every time, like 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.720 they wouldn't let you go, Like if I flew to 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:22.080 Dallas Lois. I was rehabing in LA, so like they 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.240 wouldn't let me fly to Dallas and in the Saint Louis. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.000 Like there was one time I flew from LA to 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.720 Miami and then I had to fly back to LA 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:33.480 just to fly back to Jacksonville. Yeah, there's a lot 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.960 of flying, bro But now there were good visits. I 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.640 remember sitting down with Double J the first time had 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.680 an opportunity to do that. I remember flying at the 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.320 DFW and that was my first time ever experiencing that, 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.160 and I was like, this is the biggest airport in 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.200 the world. And I don't remember where we met, but 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.640 I feel like we met at the airport there. I 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.280 mean we met at the hotel at the airport. I 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.480 think that's yeah. I think it was there because I 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.880 remember still seeing the airport while I was there, So 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.080 that was that was interesting. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:01.200 Uh. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:02.840 The one that I hated the most, I can tell 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.840 you that the one I hated the most was Miami 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.080 because Miami had messed around with my foot at the 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.320 time I was rehabbing my foot from tearing out tearing 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.240 my my list list Frank injury, and they had already 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.120 contorted my foot in a really bad way. I think 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.520 I might to share that at some point in time 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.600 at the combine, and I didn't really take a good 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.000 liking to that, and I went down there and they 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.800 did more of that, and their doctors were pretty much 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.800 just like prodding me, just just just doing everything they 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.080 could to try to elicit any kind of pain reaction 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.800 from me to see exactly how far along I was 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.080 in rehab. And then they took a kicker. I think, wow. Yeah, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:41.920 they called me and woke me up as well. The 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.600 second day of the draft, because that's when they were 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.920 doing the first It was the first three rounds Day one, 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.280 and then it was four through seven Day two. Back 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.840 back in two thousand and seven when I got drafted 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.840 and they called and woke me up from my sleep 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.200 and then took a dog on a kicker I believe 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:56.760 it was or a pun. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:57.120 Wow. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:58.959 Yeah, I was pretty angry so Miami I was that 0:08:59.080 --> 0:08:59.960 was not a fan of Miami. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:01.480 How long did that kicker make in the league. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:02.040 I don't know. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.640 I'm gonna make it further than the mood. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:05.640 I don't even know who was. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.920 Oh, I'm going to figure it out. 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.560 Who do they take in the in the fourth? 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:13.959 Yeah, but we early I think I think that's what 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.440 the fourth if you done a by the Dolphins, Yeah, 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.480 they to take him in the third because you went 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:19.240 the fourth. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:20.360 Yeah, I went top and four. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.400 Well the third only took Lorenzo Booker running back. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:29.320 Yeah. But anyway, so yeah, that was my top thirty. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:31.120 We're going to get to the bottom of this. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.480 Yeah, if my memory might be jacked up, I got 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:42.000 hit a few times. Yeah, upon after that's what That's 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.839 what I think it was. It was Jacksonville took upon Jacksonville. 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:50.360 Yeah, Pittsburgh took Daniels Sada from UH Baylor. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.199 No one more time. It sounded there you go. 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.439 But you know the business was cool, man, But you know, 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:00.280 you see guys, you don't really see a lot of guys, 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.160 like it's kind of like you're kind of everything is 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.640 very scheduled. Remember, at least at that time, everything was 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.840 very scheduled. You didn't really pass a lot of guys. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.680 It wasn't like, oh, we're all eating in the same spot. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.080 It was like you fly in, you meet, you fly out. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.920 At that time, Yeah, I don't know how different it 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:15.360 is now. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.079 It's not far off player that you're a drafted I 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.160 mean from a from a thirty visit standpoint. Right now, 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.400 you come in, you you immediately meet, You usually eat 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.520 breakfast at the facility. You get to meet with a 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:30.679 bunch of coaches, position coaches, and then they set up 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:31.600 blocks of times. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:32.960 I meet with the. 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.760 Front office staff, then you meet with the scouts, then 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.040 you meet with the coaching and then you meet with 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.000 the head coach, and it's kind of like all over 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.360 it's just a block day and then you you fly 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.520 out later at that in the night so it's not 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:46.560 too far off from. 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.520 What you had. Maybe another free meal or two thrown in, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.880 but not at all. That's that's really what it looks like. Yep, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:54.439 that's cool. 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.240 It is important to keep track of thirty visits though, 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.480 because I mean, the Cowboys traditionally will take some multiple 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.680 thirty visits in the upcoming draft and at different times 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.960 in the draft. It may not be the first round pick, 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.120 but it could be your second round pick, third round pick. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:10.840 Who knows how much of that do you think or 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.560 your fits? I guess per I guess it depends on 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.599 last year they took a sixth in terms of a 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.439 gainsmanship being that because that kind of it can kind 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.880 of tip your hat in terms of who you're really 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:22.920 looking at. How much of that is like kind of 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.640 gamesmanship in terms of, oh, we're gonna bring this guy in? 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.880 Just because I will say that under Jason Garrett it 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.120 was very telling who the thirty. It has not been 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:34.760 as telling under Mike McCarthy, but under j when Jason 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.319 Garrett was head coach man, that was a really good bet. 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.160 I want to say all of his first round picks, 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.120 aside from mow Clayborn, were thirty visit guys, whereas with 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:46.200 the Cowboys, I don't think. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:47.320 Ceedee Lamb was a thirty visit. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:48.480 I don't believe. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.560 So there's been a couple that and since McCarthy's been actors, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.800 they didn't take yeah so well. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.920 And like Jalen Hurts was a thirty visit in that 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.200 twenty twenty draft because it was the virtual and they 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.640 did all the right that stuff. So Aalen Hurts was 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.480 technically a thirty visit. Tyler Smith was not. Micah and 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:09.040 Mazie were. So it's like it's not completely telling. And 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.040 I mean you'll see at times last year they had 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.200 a ton of receivers in the building. They had Quinton 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.280 Johnston from TCU, they had Jackson Smith and Jigbu. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.160 From rock Wall. That's kind of a Dallas Day thing. 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.920 But they have these guys, these these position groups that 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.400 they have no interest in taking currently that will come 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.320 in and either that's a part of the gamemanship just 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:32.840 to kind of like muddy the water or its future consideration. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.120 You know, hey, we're not going to trade up to 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.120 go get Caleb Williams, but you may bring him in 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.520 just to go see like what's going on, Like how's 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.680 how's he processed the game, how does he do on 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.439 a whiteboard? How does he mesh with coaching staff? I 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.760 mean all that kind of stuff matters. So that way 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.840 down the road, seven or eight years, who knows. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.280 Maybe Kayleb Williams is available. And that's just another conversation. 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.240 If Washington had the number one overall pick and it 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.960 was like as certain as it is for Chicago taking 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.880 Kayleb Williams, would you waste a thirty visit on bringing 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.480 Kaleb Williams in just to see what he's just to 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.000 see what he's going, just to pick his brain. 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:03.480 Sure I would. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.760 If you're Callabiyas as an agent, would you show up? 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:08.320 Yeah? 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:09.040 Yeah, I think so? 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.280 Yeah, Okay, interesting, Yeah, that's a. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.080 Good point too. 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.720 There was a guy that was, i mean top top 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.320 five eligible the last couple of years that came in. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:20.800 I'm gonna have to come go back and look at 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:21.240 my notes. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.160 I would go to every single thirty visit that invited 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.880 to I wasn't the number one, surely yeah, because I 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.880 would be just fine. If some really good team is 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:29.760 going to package up a ton of picks, they come 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.440 up and get me and I'm in a way better 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:32.559 situation than going. 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.360 To whoever was the worst tea in the year before. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.800 Like, yeah, Also, I hope that these agents are passing 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:43.600 along wisdom in terms of the long game, right, because yeah, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:45.880 there might be teams that are trying to get you 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.360 to come to a thirty visit that aren't anywhere in 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:51.480 position to take you. Yeah, right, you know, obviously they 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.000 could do trades and things of that nature, but realistically 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:55.560 they're not in a position to take you in this 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.720 year's draft at the pick that you're most likely going 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.600 to go at. But five years from now, you don't 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.000 know how that meeting can have an impact on what 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.040 may come into future. So in terms of the long games, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.240 you know, relationship building, you know, how is your you know, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.440 how is your character? You know, are you going to 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.200 come on the visit? Do you think that you're bigger 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.400 than the organization? Do you think that you're bigger than 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.120 the pick? Like, there's so many other things that you 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.480 can take away from that that I hope that these 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.160 agents are putting their guys in position to take advantage 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.800 of if they're invited on some of these thirty visits. 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.520 That's the point of the thirty visit. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.640 Right is to get to know these products or these prospects, 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.880 to get to know them on a deeper level than 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.680 just film and medicals, because that's that's what they have 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.800 right now, is film medicals, and then any informal or 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.280 formal meeting that they've had, either at. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.720 The Senior Bowl or combine down the road. This is 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.160 the formal formalism ultimately what. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.840 It is the thing with him talking about the foot, though, 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:51.840 if I was coming off of an injury, I think 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.040 maybe that might now hearing that story hinder that. Yeah, 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.360 where I'm like, I don't know if I need to 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.280 go to every single and again I'm talking about you know, 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:00.880 vit number one overall picked or likely going to be 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:01.800 the number one overall pick. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.680 I don't know if I want all these teams doing 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:04.720 that to me. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:08.640 And yes, but if I'm healthy and they just want 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.440 to sit down and talk to me, like, I don't 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:11.520 think I would turn anybody down. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.400 Yeah, all right, let's take our first break. 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