1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong, and 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: get Katie and he. 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty Ketty just informed us that just making 5 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: a mistake on the keyboard, she's accidentally saying to people, 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Happy June Year. She means New Year. But the jay 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: is God. You're one of them anti Semites. I've heard 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: about the opposite your pro semite. Yeah, absolutely, you're you're 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: in bed with the people that killed Charlie Kirk God. Yeah, 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: just a slip of the thumb. But happy New Year 11 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: to you. And we have an update on a story 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: we've been following. So uh, the woman in charge for 13 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Mayor Mom Donnie figuring out the whole housing problem there 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: in New York City doesn't believe you should have land 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: or own a home. She's one of those people. And 16 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: collective property ownership yes, communism yes, yeah. People's relationship with 17 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: property is going to have to change, she said, especially 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: white people, which is weird. Then the story broke yesterday 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: that she lives in a one point six million dollar 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: home in Tennessee. That's where she's been living. She says 21 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: that's her mom's house. So then you got kind of 22 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: the combination. Okay, you're from a rich family, your mom's 23 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: got a one point six million dollar and you still 24 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: live with your mom, which is so popular with the socialists. 25 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, still living with your parents. Anyway, 26 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: she came out of her place that she's renting in 27 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: New York today in Brooklyn, and immediately got swarmed with 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: people asking her about she's thirty seven years old. You know, 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: she's got a graduate degree from a fancy college. I mean, 30 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: she is your stereotypical cookie cutter, privileged, rich white graduate 31 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: student who you know, wants to turn the world upside 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: down against her own class for some weird reason. Anyway, 33 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: she comes out of there and immediately she gets hit 34 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: with questions about the what about the one point six 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: million dollars home, blah blah blah. She turned around and 36 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: ran back in her house or in the place she's 37 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: living currently, wouldn't answer the questions. So she's you come out, 38 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: people start screaming why did I turn around run back in. 39 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people keyboard warriors that are called 40 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: that say all kinds of crazy crap, and then when 41 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: they get confronted with them. Ever, it gets very difficult, 42 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: very fast, or you're not willing to back them up, 43 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: or you can't back them up, like our boy from 44 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Washington State who was giving Cuba as an example for 45 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: where socialism works. We'll have to replay that for you 46 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: if you didn't hear it. It is just absolutely priceless. 47 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: So I'll just read the New York Post version of this. 48 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: Mayor Zorn Mamdani's newly instated radical left tenant advocate that's fair. 49 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: Sea Weaver broke down Wednesday as she dodged questions from 50 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: reporters about her gentrification hypocrisy. The thirty seven year old, 51 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: who has faced backlash for blasting home ownership as a 52 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: weapon of white supremacy in the past, teared up when 53 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 2: she emerged briefly from her apartment building in Crown Heights, 54 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: Brooklyn this morning. Weaver, who was tapped by Mondanni blah 55 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: blah blah blah, quickly ran back inside after she was 56 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: asked about the one point six million dollar home her 57 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: mother owns a Nashville. She has this quote out there 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: about gentrification from back the day. There's no such thing 59 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: as a good gentrifier. Only people who are actively working 60 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: on projects to dismantle white supremacy and capitalism and people 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: who aren't right. Yes, she's a Marxist. I'm not sure 62 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: her mom's house has anything to do with this. By 63 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: the way, I think her mom probably is thinking she's 64 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: a nut and I love her, but she's a nut. Yeah. 65 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: My husband and I we worked, we save We got 66 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: a house worth one point six, which isn't that crazy 67 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: these days. Nothing to do with the COMMI I think 68 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: they're trying to put her in a position of saying 69 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: her mom shouldn't own a house. Oh yeah, something, because 70 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: that gets pretty uncomfortable pretty fast, and you know, you 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: got to answer for that sort of thing. But should 72 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: your mom surrender her house to a Marxist collective? Yeah, exactly. 73 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: And god, if there's anything more classic than the socialists 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: with the privileged upbringings, it's amazing. It's a cliche. It 76 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: is a cliche. But the whole gentrification thing is interesting. 77 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: I had a conversation with my kids. I tried to 78 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: explain to them. I don't know if they got it 79 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: or they're just thinking about other things while I was 80 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: talking about it, about how neighborhoods go to crap, and 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: then they then oftentimes and I was talking about Nashville, 82 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: I was talking about New Orleans, because there are some 83 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: neighborhoods that have done that over the many years. Locally, 84 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: it's happened. Neighborhoods are crap, and then a lot of 85 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: artists and musicians music moved there because they're and they 86 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: can only afford cheap places. And then the artists musicians 87 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: bring cool places, like cool coffee shops and music venues 88 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and then people start going to them, 89 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 2: and then there starts to be tax revenue, and then 90 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 2: more people start to move there, and then the rents 91 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: start to rise, and people start to improve the buildings 92 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah blah, and then eventually you 93 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 2: end up with like a neighborhood that those poor artists 94 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: and musicians can't afford to live in it anymore, and 95 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: everybody decries it is horrible that a crappy neighborhood is 96 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: now a nice neighborhood, right exactly. And sometimes billions of 97 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: dollars of taxpayer money are spent decrapifying a neighborhood, and 98 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: then when it works, people bemoan that they say it's terrible. 99 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: It's a tragedy. It was better when it was a 100 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: you know, I'll admit from an enjoyment standpoint that in 101 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: between period, because I've experienced with East Nashville, with Oak 102 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: Park and Sacramento for anybody who knows that area are 103 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: just various cities around the country, that in between period 104 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: is very cool. Oh yeah, very wonderful. Yeah, But you know, 105 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: it's just the free market. People think other people think 106 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: it's cool and think I want to live there. And 107 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: when a whole bunch of people want to live there, 108 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: the landlord figures, well, I can raise the rent. There's 109 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: competition now for the apartments there, sure, and I'll maintain 110 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: it and make it nicer. So people are willing to 111 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: move in. And guess what, over across town there's a 112 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: crappy neighborhood where the musicians and poets can move. It's 113 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: the way it's always always been, which brings us to 114 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: a different topic maybe for another day, but that is 115 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: the the end of the Since the moment people came 116 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: to the United States, our tradition has been you go 117 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: to where the opportunity is. We've got free passage state 118 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: to state. You can go anywhere the hell you want 119 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: in America to seek your fortune. But we have this 120 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: weird cultural norm that's set in that no I lived here, 121 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: I was born here, or maybe I just grew up here. Therefore, 122 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: I will never ever leave here, And if any circumstances 123 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 2: arise that make it more wise or attractive for me 124 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: to leave, I'll be angry about them and resent them. 125 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean, where does it come from? I don't I 126 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: don't get it. And you know, JD. Vance wrote about 127 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: it movingly in the Hillbilly Elogy about these his his 128 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: four bears, are these Scotch Irish immigrants who happen to 129 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: settle in the in Appalachia because they're reminding jobs. Now 130 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: the jobs are gone, the economy suck, there's no opportunity, 131 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: but they stay and they stay and they stay. Why 132 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: and the whole gentrification thing. I'm working toward the hamkick, 133 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: Working toward the ham kick people. That's where we're going 134 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: to get here at the end of it, the North Star. 135 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: What is the ham kick? The ham kick? And I've 136 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: seen this happen before, like times Square went from too 137 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: scary to go to two very cool but edgy, two ridiculous. 138 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: Why would I ever want to go there? Disney Disneyffide, right, yeah, 139 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: And Bourbon Street in New Orleans is similar to my mind, 140 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: it's just I think it's ridiculed was at this point. 141 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, there's nothing cool about it whatsoever. And 142 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: I read in one something I was reading online, if 143 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: you want what Bourbon Street used to be, you go 144 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: to Frenchman Street and my son and I went there 145 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: and it was a whole bunch is kind of a 146 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: crappy street with a bunch of bars and restaurants with 147 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: lots of bands and you could walk in and see 148 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: them for free. And that's what Bourbon Street used to be. 149 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: And now it's thumping club music mostly and really really 150 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: crappy drinks for you know, people who just turned twenty one, 151 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: which is fine, that's fine. They go things go through 152 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: this period. But so that's the history of all cities 153 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: in New Orleans. If you remember, if you ever watched 154 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: Ken Burns Jazz mini series documentary, he talked a lot 155 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: about Storyville and that's where jazz was born. Really Congas 156 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: Square is where they let the slaves on Sundays get 157 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: together and do their music. Lots of states, most states 158 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: in the country wouldn't allow slaves to gather and play 159 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: music because they figured it would lead to an uprising 160 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: or some way to seek each other with drum patterns. 161 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 2: Like in South Carolina, it was against the law to 162 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: play the drums for slaves because they thought they were 163 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: going to signal them with drum beats and when we're 164 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: going to meet and you know, uprise against our Slley 165 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: owners were in trusting for whatever reason. In New Orleans, 166 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: they decided it was a good release to have everybody 167 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: get together and play their music and dance on Sunday. 168 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: So it started there on Conga Park, I think it 169 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: was called, and that's where jazz was born and developed. 170 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: Then there was a Storyville, this crappy area that became 171 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: a jazz place, and then they booted the blacks out, 172 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: so they had to come up with their Black Storyville 173 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: or something like that. Blah blah blah. I'm at the 174 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: Jazz Museum and seeing on this and going through various 175 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: buildings and reading plaques, and I came across Pete La 176 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: Las Saloon and the plaque that they had there. This 177 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: is from way back in the day. Besides its role 178 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: is a music venue, Pete La Las was famous for 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: the ham kick. Sounds like a really ill conceived promotion 180 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl this year, Right, If you can 181 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: put that thing through the uprights from twenty yards, you 182 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: in a lifetime supply of ham or spam or which 183 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: would be two hams. Roughly, a ham was suspended from 184 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: the ceiling and women could win the ham by kicking it, 185 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: but only if they were not wearing undergarments. Well, there's 186 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: something for everyone there. So you get a woman and 187 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: a skirt with no underwear on trying to kick the 188 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: ham for obvious reasons. So guys could look on her dress, 189 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: but she's trying to kick the ham. So it had 190 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: nothing to do with the ham. It was all about 191 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 2: trying to get some woman with no underwear on to 192 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: lift her leg up of me. If you are a hungry, 193 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: voyeuristic Marshall arts enthusiast, that was the event for you. 194 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: It's funny that a saloon became famous for the hamkick, 195 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: suspending a ham from the ceiling. And then you're a 196 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: woman in her dress because back then you couldn't wear pants. 197 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 2: You're a woman in a dress, no underwear, trying to 198 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: kick the ham. Kick it, kick it, Oh my god. Wow, 199 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: that is that's a historic plaque. I'm a guy who 200 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: stops and reads historic plaques. That, oh that's a million 201 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: miles better than anyone I've ever read. Often very boring. 202 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: You know. 203 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: The assistant undersecretary of something was once you know, signed 204 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: to doctor Blue Cares the ham cake. Now that's pretty good. 205 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: This was where a rally started that called for the 206 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: emancipation of some That's that's pretty cool. Wow right here, thanks, 207 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: thanks for showing us you're you who. Here's your ham 208 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: Well he landed a good solid one on that ham 209 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: and I caught a glimpse of the gates. I have 210 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: it everybody lives here, so that, ladies and gentlemen, is 211 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: the ham cake? How we're going to take Greenland or something? Yeah, 212 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: the best information you have yet heard on the Greenland 213 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: question coming up. Stay with us. 214 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: Brought against approaching Greenland in a voluntary way, saying the 215 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: United States would like, you'll be part of the United 216 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: States if you so wish it, and then it would 217 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 4: be a lossibility. 218 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: But right now I think it's been more in the 219 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: wrong direction. 220 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: Ultimately, the people of Greenland would have to vote and 221 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: potentially Denmark. I'm not sure who would have to vote, 222 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: but if you won't get there by insulting them. 223 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: Of course, Rand Paul soft on untaking Greenland, soft on 224 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: Greenland's Yeah, Rand, no Wonder's neighbor beat on him. So 225 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: associate producer Jeff, Who's a fabulous resource in Jeff, We 226 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Collected several thoughts on the developments on Greenland. 227 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: I will share them with you. Interject as you like. 228 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 2: Reports that the US is working on a draft deal 229 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: to be presented to Greenland. If Greenland signs a Compact 230 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: of free Association known as a KOFA agreement with the US, 231 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: they will not get quasi independence. They will become an 232 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: independent sovereign nation. All the big European countries back Denmark 233 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 2: and Greenland. The US is presenting a deal directly to 234 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: Greenland and bypassing Copenhagen. That is not that controversial. It's 235 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: long been Denmark's position that Greenlandic independence should be up 236 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 2: to the Greenlandic people, so if they want to take 237 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: Trump's deal, Denmark will most likely not object. For Denmark, 238 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: it's considered to be a decent outcome. They would then 239 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: be relieved to paying welfare checks to Greenland every year 240 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: and can roll back the four billion dollars defense investment 241 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 2: plan for Greenland that was recently ratified. But again it's 242 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: up to the Greenlandic people. So if Greenland, if Denmark's 243 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: policy is, hey, if you want to be your own country, 244 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: you can do it anytime you want. Just let us know. 245 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: Why haven't they done it before? Because they want to 246 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: be part of a NATO country. Uh maybe, Plus they 247 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: have benefits and and you know, heritage, you know, ties 248 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 2: to Denmark, and they're fond of it, and they get 249 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: to money from the treasury. But so Greenland, there's nothing 250 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: stopping Greenland from saying, Okay, we're going to sign this 251 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: with the United States. Thanks Denmark for all the good times. Yeah, yeah, 252 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: I'm moving on. Then this, it appears Trump is actually 253 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: this is a different writer. It appears Trump is executing 254 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: the most elegant imperial maneuver of the twenty first century. 255 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: No bullets, no treaties, no war. He's about to surgically 256 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: decouple Greenland from Denmark without violating a single international law, 257 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: and every part of the system is walking into it voluntarily. 258 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: The move is genius because it compresses five vectors into one. Stroke, 259 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: resource capture, because Greenland's just an unbelievable you know, vault 260 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: of rare earths and minerals and stuff like that, world's 261 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: number one producer of penguins, sixty six percent of the 262 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: penguins on Earth. Greenland there you go. Very difficult to 263 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: extract the minerals, however, and those were not so much. 264 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: The penguins. You just throw an it over them. Let's 265 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: see also military radar dominance, the Arctic missile shield, sea 266 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: lane control, the melting Northern roots, post colonial legitimacy framed 267 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: his liberation not acquisition, European fracture, legal sovereignty split across 268 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: two capitals. Denmark gets budget relief and moral clarity. Greenland 269 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: gets cash and quasi independence. The US gets the keystone 270 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: of the Arctic under a compact of free association, the 271 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: aforementioned KOFA that installs military command and monetary dependency. With 272 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: a smile. This is a realignment. Europe is too slow 273 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: to stop it and Denmark is too tired to fight it. 274 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: Once Greenland signs, the Arctic is American, the map just 275 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: hasn't caught up yet. I love that. Of that, I'm 276 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: partially informed by having just been to the World War 277 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: II Museum in New Orleans, but seeing the reality of 278 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 2: how things can work if superpowers decide they want to expand, 279 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: and that's inevitable, it would be crazy for us to 280 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: not be positioning ourselves for the coming century of China's 281 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: and Russia's attempt at expansion. Yeah, I'm not sure I 282 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: would call it suicidal not to be in charge of 283 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: the defense capabilities of Greenland, but it's close to suicidal. 284 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: Final thought, Greenland is the Arctic Panama. The Panama Canal 285 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: gave Roosevelt leverage over hemispheric trade. Greenland gives Trump leverage 286 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: over Arctic security, rare earth missile defense, and global shipping 287 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: lanes in the Melting Pole. Both moves bypassed traditional channels 288 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: and ref reframed geography as geopolitical control. This is Roosevelt 289 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: Doctrine two point zero now in the Arctic theater degree. 290 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: It's of enormous, practically indescribably enormous strategic importance. I hope 291 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: it can be done with a minimum of angst and 292 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: hatred and certainly bloodshed, but I don't think that would 293 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: happen anyway unless there's some you know, greenlandic whackadoodle living 294 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: in the hinterlands. Who's gonna set himself on fire in 295 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: the name of something or other. What are we gonna 296 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: do about that? Yeah, I gotta believe we can offer 297 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: enough to them that they're going to decide that's the 298 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: best move. Uh yeah, Yeah, money and resources and assistance 299 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: of this, that and the other sort and yeah. But 300 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: again again, let's have Marco in charge of it and 301 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: not Steven Miller. All right, he's going to start punching 302 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: seals and they're junk. Miller is where Marco will extend 303 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: the hand of friend trip. How about if you can 304 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: kick a ham you get to keep your country. How 305 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: about that? Bring back the hamcake? 306 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Armstrong and Getty. 307 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 5: It is Girl Scout cookie season. The newest cookie just revealed. 308 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 5: They're calling them Explore Moores. It's a Rocky Road ice 309 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 5: cream inspired sandwich cookie packed with chocolate, marshmallow and toasted 310 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 5: almond flavored cream. The Girl Scouts say the name Explore 311 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 5: Moores is inspired by the spirit of exploration at the 312 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 5: heart of every Girl Scout. 313 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: You know, we could figure that out for ourselves. My 314 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: fourteen year old identified the problem with David Mury yesterday 315 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: and we were actually listening to the t's of the 316 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: news when he talked about some firefighters dying in a 317 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 2: tragedy and then the new Girl Scout cookie, and my 318 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: son Henry said, you can't use the same tone of 319 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: voice for firefights dying as you do for there a 320 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: new Girl Scout cookie. Right, But he does. He does. 321 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: That's David Muir's problem. He sounds exactly the same announcing 322 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: forty people dead and flooding as there's a new Girl 323 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 2: Scout cookie that features coconut and more child right right. 324 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 2: Oh hey, for what it's worth, you know, the network 325 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: news is kind of a vestige of the past. But 326 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 2: I watched the CBS News with Tony Dekoppo last night 327 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: for the first time, and I will just tell you this. 328 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 2: I watched Special Report with Brettbear generally speaking, and then 329 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: I used to cleanse my palette with ABC News with 330 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: David Muir because it's like super light and lots of 331 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: viral videos and car crashes and dogs that catch frisbees 332 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: or whatever. It's it's kind of news for dumb people. 333 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 2: But it was a nice palate cleanser that I could 334 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: zap through very quickly. CBS News was a full meal. 335 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: It was much more substantive into sellectually hefty. I mean, 336 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: it was still an evening newscast, but it was it 337 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: was a much meatier newscast. I am going to set 338 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: my recorder because I keep missing it. I'm going to 339 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: set my recorder right now to catch that every single night. 340 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: I'm very excited the Newberry Weiss's CBS News where they're 341 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: vowing that we're not going to listen to advocates and 342 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: academics about everything. We're going to try to bring you 343 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: the news for everybody. So I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, 344 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: it was good. It was again of much meteor content 345 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: and most network news. Wow. So speaking of media content, 346 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: we played this earlier, but it's just so unbelievable we 347 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: got to play it again. This is a journalist by 348 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: the name of Brandy Cruz talking to socialist Washington State Rep. 349 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: Sean Scott. This is the guy who advocated taxing Amazon 350 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: out of Seattle because the workers were using up too 351 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: much housing. This guy is a freaking moron. Anyway, dig 352 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: this if you will. 353 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 6: I want you to give me one example, uh of 354 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 6: socialism you think working well somewhere. 355 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 7: A good example of socialism working well somewhere. It's this 356 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 7: is a really really cool question. I think it's Cuba 357 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 7: in particular, very very high literacy rate, number one, number two, 358 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 7: extremely strong commitment to public health. So that's one example 359 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 7: that I can think of that would resonate with pretty 360 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 7: much anybody in our state who cares about education or 361 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 7: health care. Would you disagree with that? 362 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: All right? So we jumped in the first time we 363 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: played this, But then we discovered Brandy did a brilliant job. 364 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: Go ahead, people flee. 365 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 6: On makeshift rafts and die in the ocean to flee 366 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 6: Cuba for the United States. 367 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think that that is something that absolutely 368 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 7: we have to be sensitive to. But you asked me 369 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 7: about institutions that are working really really well. 370 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 6: About places socialism is working, and you chose a country 371 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 6: that people will risk their lives to flee from this 372 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 6: to this country. There's a reason for that, Sean. 373 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 7: There was a revolution in Cuba that is correct. 374 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 6: Still do it to this day. They show up on 375 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 6: the beaches at Miami because they would rather be here 376 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 6: and would risk their lives in shark infested water to 377 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 6: flee the country that you just gave me. 378 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: An example of yeah, well, okay, we need to be 379 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: sensitive to that, so there's no getting around that. I mean, 380 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,239 Speaker 2: I saw a meme. I don't remember why it was, 381 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: but it was. It was back when you had the 382 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: wall between East Berlin and West Berlin and socialism so 383 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 2: great you need a wall to keep people in. And 384 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: similar to the idea of people risking their lives to 385 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: leave Cuba, I mean, there's no arguing with that. People 386 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: are willing to die to get out of the country. 387 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's all there is to it. Now. The 388 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 2: whole literacy thing that one has been around forever Bernie 389 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: Sanders uses or whatever, partially because the government does go 390 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: out of their way to make sure everybody can read 391 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: at a very minimal level. The government crap propaganda that 392 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: they give them so they are really good at that, 393 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: and then people don't don't read at any higher level 394 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: than that, so that is true as it goes. Then 395 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: the universal healthcare thing, which lefties always take as a 396 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: that's all you need to know, government provided health care 397 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: for everyone. The fact the way it actually works, whether 398 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: it's in Canada, Great Britain or Cuba, they leave out 399 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: and it's it's all kinds of a disaster strictly rationed. Yeah, 400 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: it doesn't make any difference. You can't hang your hat on. 401 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: Everybody can read at the second grade level in Cuba, 402 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: so socialism works. I mean, that's that's a crazy claim. Well, right, 403 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: And as you pointed out, you could make me an 404 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: argument about what a valhalla Cuba is with the like 405 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 2: the brilliance of Christopher Hitchens, the humor of Mark Twain, 406 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: and the sincerity of Abraham Lincoln. And then when I 407 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: came back to you with but people risk their lives 408 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: to flee there, all of your arguments are now a joke. 409 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: And nobody you have to know, and nobody's going to there, 410 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 2: No nobody's except like lunatic cop murders from the United States, right, Exactly. 411 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: One of the most interesting and moving parts of Judy. 412 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: In my trip to Europe at Christmas time of a 413 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: year and a half two years ago, I guess, gosh, 414 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 2: it's two years ago now, was touring Bratoslava, which was 415 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: behind the Iron Curtain, and the gal who had grown 416 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: up there, who's now probably fifty fifty ish, talking about 417 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: how they were told the reason they were held in 418 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 2: by a wall was that the West was crumbling, the 419 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: quote unquote free world was crumbling, and they were all 420 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: desperate to get into the workers' utopia. Wow, and that's 421 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: why they had to have a carefully guarded wall. Wow. Yeah, yeah, 422 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: no matter how many of them believe that it would 423 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: have been easier to keep that quiet back then than 424 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: it would be now. Oh yeah, absolutely true. Yeah. And 425 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: then finally the last clip was some well go ahead 426 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: and play it, it's so stupid. Here's again Washington Representative 427 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: Sean Scott. 428 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 7: And if if the situation were reversed, the injuries and 429 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 7: the ailments that they sustain as a result of migrating 430 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 7: to a place where they believe that they're going to 431 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 7: be better off, I believe that they can be treated 432 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 7: in a much better way than American health care facilities 433 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 7: are currently able to treat people. So that's one example 434 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 7: that I can think of of socialism working. 435 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: In education. This Halfwood's illustration is Okay, so people are 436 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: risking their lives, in their children's lives to flee with 437 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 2: nothing of this communist hellhole. But if they were to 438 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: get injured while fleeing Cuba, they'd have better healthcare in 439 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: Cuba than the United states. Are you did you keep 440 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 2: a straight face through that? Come on? Good? It's an 441 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: example for this of socialism working. Yeah, and I know 442 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: it's amazing. It is absolutely amazing. I got to admit 443 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: I'm a little mystified. But again, to quote you earlier, 444 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 2: we have got to forcefully re re reteach the lessons 445 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: of the misery of socialism and communism and the challenge 446 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: but the wonderfulness of liberty. We had to We got lazy. 447 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: Should have grabbed some of the swearing in speech of 448 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: the mayor there. Is it Seattle or is it one 449 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: of the other towns in Washington where they Seattle's Katie 450 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 2: wits her face the communist. I saw some of her 451 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: speech and she's a young never had a job, one 452 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: of those kind of people who let me guess ivy 453 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 2: league education. Yeah, I winyah, Yeah, unbelievable. So we hadn't 454 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: intended to talk about that as long as we did. 455 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: But it's hard to help ourselves. I want to get 456 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 2: to this real quickly. At least researchers are warning that 457 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: AI systems are creating techno social harms through unchecked rumors. 458 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: They are voracious spreaders of rumors, and we talked about 459 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: this artist who had a showing canceled because AI the 460 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: internet was starting to say he was a sex offender, 461 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: and he's not not at all. It was a hallucinat 462 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: hallucination that just got picked up and picked up and 463 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: spread and spread. And they're talking about how all systems 464 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: may spread negative evaluations between themselves through shared training data, 465 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: creating AI systems, I should say, creating a rumor mill 466 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: that operates without human oversight, because with human gossip there 467 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: are social constraints about plausibility. I mean, for instance, if 468 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: higher rumor that Jack murdered ten hobo is to the 469 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 2: harvest their kidneys and sell them to China, I'd be like, oh, 470 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: stop it place. But these machines have no such judgment. 471 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: So normal human gossip faces social constraints about plausibility, but 472 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: bought to bot gossip is feral, meaning it can become 473 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: increasingly exaggerated and distorted as it moves from system to 474 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: system without anyone checking out. The claims have gone too far, 475 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: and from threatened lawsuits over false accusations to potential and 476 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: ployment blacklisting, AI generated gossip has caused reputational damage, professional 477 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: harmon even contributed to real world violence when weaponized to 478 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: inflame religious tensions, for instance, and tech companies are designing 479 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: AI assistance to feel personal and trustworthy. We've talked about 480 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: this making users more likely to believe gossip these systems share, 481 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: even when that information may be completely false, rumors that 482 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 2: spread between machines. It's wild that as smart as AI is, 483 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 2: they haven't yet come up with something that has the 484 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: human ability to say that's not right right. For instance, 485 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: the example you had yesterday of you wanted to get 486 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 2: a tattoo of the First Amendment, Yeah, and it got 487 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: all the words wrong because it grabbed them from an 488 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: image and couldn't well, yeah, the image creator does not sink, well, well, 489 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 2: you need body over the age of like five. I 490 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: looked at that as a human and said, well, that's 491 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 2: not right. But the AI couldn't do it right right, 492 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: And it explained to me why it was so bad. 493 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: But it couldn't say whoa, whoa, that's bad. Let's cross 494 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: check with the actual print. I guess it's not capable yet, 495 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: but so let's see do we do this or put 496 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: it off? I tell you what, why don't we take 497 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: a quick break and I'll give you a great example 498 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: of how this unfolds in the real world. It's it's 499 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: bizarre and troubling and almost funny, honestly, unless you're the 500 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: dude in question. No kidding. We'll finish strong next. 501 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 8: A growing number of patients are getting butt lifts using 502 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 8: fat from dead people. I know, leading many to believe 503 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 8: that Kim Kardashian is a serial killer. 504 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: So when people they take their fat and inject it 505 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: into my hind end, if I wanted a higher hind end, 506 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: it seems to be the prem here. I don't see 507 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: how that would benefit my life really, bit Okay, well yeah, okay, 508 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: I don't really want to get into butt fashion. Maybe tomorrow. Yeah, 509 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: it's funny how it comes and goes anyway, Beauty standards 510 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: in short. So before the break, we were talking about 511 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: the fact that AI systems can be vicious gossips, and 512 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: unlike human beings, they have feral gossip. It's out in 513 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: the wild and there are no human constraints about like plausibility. Yeah, 514 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: Jack was having sex with space aliens and they produced 515 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: a weird tentacle. Baby. No, they didn't shut up, but 516 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: the AI systems don't know that. So Kevin Ruth. If 517 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: you have a photographic memory, you may remember that name, 518 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: but I don't. I didn't thought his strangest AI experience 519 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: was behind him. This was the New York Times Tech 520 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 2: report who made headlines a couple of years ago after 521 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: Microsoft's bing a chatbot confessed its love for him and 522 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: urged him to leave his We talked about that a lot. Yeah, 523 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: we're all nodding our heads, all right. But months later 524 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: friends started sending him screenshots revealing something even more unsettling. 525 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: AI chatbots from completely different companies were generating hostile evaluations 526 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: of him. Google's Gemini, for instance, claimed Ruth's journalism focused 527 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: on sensationalism. Meta's a lama III. He went further, producing 528 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 2: a multi paragraph rant accusing him of manipulating sources and 529 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: ending with a blunt declaration, I hate Kevin Ruse. These 530 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: weren't isolated incidents a random glitches multiple chatbots that apparently 531 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: developed negative associations with rus and the researchers argue this 532 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: information may have spread from one AI system to another, 533 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: as online discussions about the whole weird Sydney that was 534 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: the name of the bing chatbot Sydney telling him to 535 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 2: leave his wife. Discussions got scraped into training data, potentially 536 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: mutating and intensifying it along the way. In other words, 537 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: as people were discussing it and joking and crack Pot's 538 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: weight in or whatever, the AI just sucked it all 539 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: up and said, oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. It's got 540 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: to be true. People are saying it on the internet. Yeah. 541 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: There is a concern with this language learning model thing 542 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: where it just sucks up information from around the internet, 543 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: that how are you going to stop misinformation disinformation if 544 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: something's out there that false and it treats everything exactly 545 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: the same. I mean this is this could perpetuate things 546 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 2: in a way that human beings only dreamed of, right, right, 547 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: And they talk about how all traditional gossip requires a speaker, 548 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: a listener, and an absent subject, and that there's bot 549 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: to user gossip when users ask chatbots directly about humans 550 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But bot to bot got gossip happens 551 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: when information spreads between systems through shared trending yet or 552 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: integrated networks with no humans involved, and it just goes wild. 553 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: We got into talking about AI with my family. Get 554 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: together a bunch of college students or newly in the 555 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 2: workplace type people, and everybody's using it in different ways, 556 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: and then the ways you use it in school. Everybody 557 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: uses it for school to varying levels of what they 558 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: feel like they're okay with in terms of helping them 559 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: with a paper. And some of it, you know, you 560 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: can completely see. Sure, that's fine, but where it crosses 561 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 2: the line into I mean, guess, how do you not 562 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: write your paper as a twenty year old college sophomore, 563 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: how do you not write your paper and run it 564 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: through AI to like, you know, Frich grammatical errors or 565 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: an inconsistency or anything like. How would you not do that? 566 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, to stop myself from doing it. It's 567 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: not having it write the paper, but it's just catching 568 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: any obvious problems. Oh, that's funny. I hadn't even thought 569 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: of that, right, Yeah, that's sure. It's a proofreader. It's 570 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: a machine proofreader. Is that that's legal? Suger, isn't it? 571 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. Well, that's that's what the question got into, 572 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: is And then there was one of them said their 573 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: professor expected like fifteen percent of the paper to be AI. 574 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: They just knew that that was gonna happen or something. 575 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how you'd quantify that sort of thing, 576 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 2: but it just seems unrealistic. I could see, you know, 577 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: back in the day, I was surrounded by a stack 578 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: of books, but asking AI, Hey, I'm I'm writing a 579 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: ten page paper against tariffs. What are the main points 580 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: I should include? I mean, and that's a that's a 581 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 2: learning tool to me. I understand that it crosses the 582 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: line very easily to aid keep you from learning tool. 583 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna write a paper about John Brown his 584 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: positive Zen negatives. I'm supposed to like go through book 585 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: by book and come up with myself. So when AI 586 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: can do it in a couple of seconds, then I 587 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: write a paper about it. Is that cheating? I don't know, 588 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: it's not using certain muscles that human beings need. Probably 589 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: more on that to come. 590 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 7: I'm ready. 591 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: To Yeah, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe getting Yeah. Hey, 592 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. 593 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: There is Michaelangelow pressent the buttons, our technical director. Michael, 594 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: what's your final I know this is terrible. 595 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: I've been sitting here for the last half hour thinking 596 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 3: about that girl Scout cookie flavor of Rocky Road. Every 597 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 3: year I'm a sucker for the Girl Scouts that I 598 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: want to buy one box, I end up with three 599 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: or four. 600 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: Well, you're helping, you're helping young women learn about that. 601 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: Justify exactly what you freeze them? You have like one 602 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: after a meal? Yeah, off the pole, eat some cookies. 603 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 2: That's right, well, said Katie Green or a steam newswoman 604 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: is cringing and she has a final funk, Katie. 605 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, to take it in another direction, just to show 606 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 5: how fast time flies. 607 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 2: I am halfway through my pregnancy today. Oh wow, isn't 608 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: that crazy? Yeah, that's crazy. Golly, gee check. Did you 609 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 2: have a final thought for us? I do? Seven days 610 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: in I still haven't eaten the dessert. I'm counting all 611 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: kin cookies, pies, cake, salt cookies. When you mentioned that 612 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: about oh man, no cookies, hear no boy Scout or 613 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: Girl Scout cookies. Damn? I am two Final thoughts Number one. 614 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: The ham kick segment was one of the funniest and 615 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: most amazing things I've ever heard the hour or segment 616 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: one of this Hour a Second Thought. We're about to 617 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: chat with Ian Bremer about the Eurasia Group's annual Top 618 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: Risks for twenty twenty six, which will be available as 619 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: an Armstrong and Getty extra large podcast. Always fun and 620 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: informative to talk to Ian, so looking forward to that. 621 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: I feel like they had more fun back in the 622 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 2: old days with ham Kicks and whatnot, arms Strong and 623 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 2: Geeddy wrapping up the other're grueling four hour workday so funny, 624 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: so many people. Thanks a little time. Go to Armstronggeeddy 625 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: dot com. 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You're going bacon first. 635 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 2: That's just I'm just analyzed. I'm with you. I don't 636 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: want group think here. I'm waiting the ideas. Yeah, you 637 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 2: really like breakfast, I really do. Armstrong and Getty