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Speaker 2: Cla Brewins just got in the end zone again. They

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Speaker 2: are leading usc by a score of twenty one to ten.

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Speaker 3: Carrie is in today. Carry. It's great to see you, man.

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Speaker 4: Always good to see you, Steve. I know you're happy,

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Speaker 4: you're excited. You jumped around a little bit when the

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Speaker 4: touchdown happened. It was a slight vertical, but you got

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Speaker 4: up a little bit. It was pretty impressive for me,

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Speaker 4: like Phil Mickelson winning his first Master's. That kind of vertical.

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Speaker 2: I have no vertical, but anyway, it's uh, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: we're down to the wire here in college football. After

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Speaker 2: this week, we have two more weeks. I'll have my

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Speaker 2: Heisman update coming up later on.

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Speaker 3: In this hour.

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Speaker 2: Also, Adam Kaplan's going to be joining us here in

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Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes breaking down tomorrow's NFL schedule. But you

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Speaker 2: get to that point of the college football season where

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Speaker 2: every game now really starts to count absolutely, and what we're.

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Speaker 3: Seeing across the country.

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Speaker 2: You know, we obviously have the traditional rivalries this week,

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Speaker 2: next week, some of these big games that you throw

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Speaker 2: out the records, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you my own personal experience with

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Speaker 2: USC and UCLA. So my dad went to USC. I

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Speaker 2: graduated USC. My mom attended UCLA. She would have graduated UCLA,

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Speaker 2: but she dropped out a semester early to have me.

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Speaker 2: She was a young mom, and so I was raised

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Speaker 2: in a house where it was USC and UCLA. I

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Speaker 2: was a Trojan. I mean I was die hard when

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Speaker 2: USC football with John McKay was don coming in and

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Speaker 2: Everyone likes to follow the winner, so it was like

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Speaker 2: USC football, UCLA basketball.

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Speaker 3: Not me. I was usue across the roard.

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Speaker 2: But I ended up going to UCLA and then it

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Speaker 2: didn't take long for me to figure it out. So wait, Steve,

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Speaker 2: how did you end up a UCLA? It's very simple story.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have the money go to USC. My dad

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Speaker 2: went on the GI bill. I didn't have any GI

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Speaker 2: bill to get me into USC. Show you how incredible

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Speaker 2: this was UCLA.

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Speaker 3: This is back in.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy six ninety anyways, it was tuition at UCLA.

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Speaker 2: UCLA six hundred and thirty dollars a year, six hundred

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Speaker 3: So you're saying your student loans wasn't that bad.

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Speaker 2: I didn't have student uns. My dad could actually paid

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Speaker 2: twenty of the next twenty one USC UCLA games.

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Speaker 2: And I used to say this about this game, that

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Speaker 3: Now I don't feel quite that way anymore.

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Speaker 2: But as soon as I see both these teams on

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Speaker 4: It's funny because right Alabama boy grew up in Alabama,

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Speaker 4: It's funny how that changes when it's time to make

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Speaker 2: Have got a LA four game, a fumble by USC

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Speaker 2: they are now running away with this game. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this is not what I expected today. So I missed

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Speaker 2: the play. Let's watch the replay here Caleb Williams. And

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Speaker 2: this is it for Caleb Williams, because I can promise you,

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Speaker 2: not play in that bowl game. So we're watching a replay.

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Speaker 2: USC's starting to drive deep in their own territory. Their

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Speaker 3: Wow. You know last week we saw Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: Cry on the sideline, yes after they lost to Oregon

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Speaker 3: The NFL was not an option for him this year.

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Speaker 2: But to go from that to a un a loss

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Speaker 2: here now trailing UCLA twenty eight to ten and go

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Speaker 3: It's a colossal failure for USC. So what are you

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's not responsible for one of the worst defenses

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Speaker 2: numbers are still elite numbers, not quite to the level

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the psyche part of it, you can

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Speaker 4: skilled all around across the board on the next level, right,

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Speaker 4: so he could raise their play and they could raise

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Speaker 4: this play simultaneously. I think in college what we're starting

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Speaker 4: think psychologically he'll be fine. Yeah, he should be okay.

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Speaker 2: And like I'm predicting right now, since USC is bowl

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Speaker 3: Not over yet.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he can engineer or comeback, but they're in a

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Speaker 2: Depolls trailing twenty eight to ten. Just quickly, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: staring at right now to finish this season. Does that

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Speaker 4: It doesn't, because we talked I think I was actually

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Speaker 3: So they out they sold out the rose ball exactly.

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Speaker 3: That was an UCLA fan showing up exactly.

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Speaker 4: So I think the attention and the awareness brought to

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Speaker 4: the program definitely a win. I don't think anybody, really,

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Speaker 4: seven games, right. I think being four and seven now

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Speaker 4: whatever they are, is a disappointment from where they started,

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Speaker 2: it's over. In fact, if they were to lose today

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Speaker 4: And pound type of football going on in the Black

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Speaker 4: and Blue Division, But uh, let's move from there and

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Speaker 4: let's talk about another team that had high expectations. I

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Speaker 4: didn't have high expectations for them coming in. But you know,

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Speaker 4: when you have a quarterback named Josh Allen, you tend

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Speaker 4: to have that. What's going on in Buffalo, you you

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Speaker 4: move on from the offensive coordinator and put the blame

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Speaker 4: on him, not the blame on you know, Jaa for

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Speaker 4: making you know, these these bone head turnovers during the season.

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Speaker 4: But let's look, what's what's the I guess the prognosis

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Speaker 4: on this team moving forward?

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think they will make the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: But what what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I don't either, based on that They've got three major

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Speaker 7: injuries on defense from all three levels of that defense.

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Speaker 7: The defense is hanging in there. It's just not as

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Speaker 7: dominant now. I mean it's it's hanging in there. But

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Speaker 7: the offense, Josh Allen with some of these interceptions where

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Speaker 7: he thinks he can make the throw, he doesn't see

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Speaker 7: the two deep coverage. It's a mistake. Sean McDermott, the

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Speaker 7: head coach who made a decision to move on from

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Speaker 7: Ken Dorsey, He's hoping Joe Brady's got a good relationship

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Speaker 7: with Alan who's got a lot of energy, is hoping

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Speaker 7: he could reach him. But I'm told that when Brady

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Speaker 7: was fired with the Panthers two years ago in season

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Speaker 7: by the way, with the Panthers by then head coach

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Speaker 7: Matt Ruhle, that he felt like the playmakers were not

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Speaker 7: getting the football. And there is a parallel here if

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Speaker 7: you really look at it. Stefan Diggs's numbers are down

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Speaker 7: a little bit, Gabe Davis is not getting the ball.

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Speaker 7: He's also drops some. But the other thing is to

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Speaker 7: defend Ken Dorsey. The funnel that James Cook had Dalvin's

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Speaker 7: younger brother. I mean on the first series of the

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Speaker 7: game last week, that's on James Cook. I mean, it

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Speaker 7: was a beautifully designed Screenny fumbles it. You can't have

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Speaker 7: that now. The lack of discipline with Alan with the picks,

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Speaker 7: that's a problem. And this is where Brian Dable and

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Speaker 7: Alan worked beautifully together. Brian would get on on There'll

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Speaker 7: be a lot of goong back and forth, but there

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Speaker 7: was a healthy respect with each other and Dave bow

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Speaker 7: was the one who really developed him. And they've not He's,

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Speaker 7: let's face it, he's not been the same since. And

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Speaker 7: I don't know that he'll ever get there again. It's uh,

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Speaker 7: it's turnovers base. But also he has to understand that

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Speaker 7: there's some throws throw the ball out of bounds or run.

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Speaker 7: The other thing is, you know they're not designing the

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Speaker 7: runs were that they were doing earlier this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I told you this last week. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna repeat myself this week.

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Speaker 3: CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud is the most valuable player this season in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: No player means more to his team than c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 2: And if this team somehow miraculously makes the playoffs, if

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Speaker 2: I had a vote, if he continues to put up

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Speaker 2: the numbers that he's putting up, CJ. Stroud would be

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Speaker 2: not just Rookie of the Year, I'm talking most valuable player.

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Speaker 3: Steve.

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Speaker 4: Would you double down on that and say Demico Ryans

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Speaker 4: the coach again?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean you, I mean, look at the talent

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Speaker 3: on this Texans team.

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Speaker 7: Or elevating it Steve. Yeah, it's I was what you

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Speaker 7: just said. I said to a friend of mine with

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Speaker 7: another team. We were talking about Stroud and and this

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Speaker 7: guy admitted, who's in college scouting for another team. He said, yeah,

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Speaker 7: he's way better than we expected. So yeah, I voted

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Speaker 7: two poles, one for the ProFootball Writers Association, which is

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Speaker 7: probably the most detailed voting on both sides of the football,

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Speaker 7: and uh for words and also coaching and so forth. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: because right now, by the way, as I said earlier,

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Speaker 7: they've got they've got a tiebreaker now, uh over actually

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Speaker 7: a couple teams, and that's that's see that over Cincinnati

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Speaker 7: obviously who they beat last week. And look if you

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Speaker 7: look at that division, they are only a game back

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Speaker 7: of the Jaguars, who but man that that leg got

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Speaker 7: absolutely smoked and embarrassed at home against them. Nine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Niners are back after that game.

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Speaker 7: So we have to start talking about could the Texans,

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Speaker 7: who I didn't give a stone chance to to even

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Speaker 7: come close to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: They're only game back.

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Speaker 7: So remember Houston smoked Jacksonville and Jacksonville it's all forget

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Speaker 7: about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's an incredible story for Dimigo Ryans and

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Speaker 2: for C. J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: All right, looking forward to Week eleven and the National

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Speaker 2: Football League, we're well past the halfway point, Adam kaplan

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Speaker 2: taking us to the finish line.

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Speaker 3: Adam, thanks so much. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 2: Ad that's Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider.

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Speaker 2: Now let's find out what it's trending. Uh doing double

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Speaker 2: duty again and this is because of u c LA

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Speaker 2: in action today during the day. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: am enjoying this game artin watching my Bruins throttle USC.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm enjoying it too, because it's a paycheck

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Speaker 3: right there. You know, there you go. You can't you

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Speaker 3: can't play.

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Speaker 2: UCLA does have another game next week against Berkeley. See

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Speaker 2: be right back next week.

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Speaker 8: I very well may be in the spot. You know

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying, Dan Byer, call me out of the bullpen, baby,

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Speaker 8: I'm ready to go there it is, yes, all right?

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Speaker 8: Who're not ready to go? Tennessee and Joe Milton thirty

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Speaker 8: eight to ten midway through the fourth quarter. There Number

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Speaker 8: one Georgia with a thirty eight to ten lead on

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Speaker 8: the eighteenth ranked team in the nation, the Tennessee Volunteers.

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Speaker 8: Second reg Ohio State with a thirty seven and nothing

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Speaker 8: lead over Minnesota. In the third quarter, Number six Oregon

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Speaker 8: with they forty two to nothing lead against Arizona State.

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Speaker 8: Are you witnessing a trend here? There's been a lot

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Speaker 8: of ass whoopings today. Number sixteenth rank Iowa is Trailey, Illinois,

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Speaker 8: thirteenth to nine early in the fourth. Number nineteen Notre

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Speaker 8: Dame Wake Forest the Fighting Irish with a forty five

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Speaker 8: to seven lead. Late in the fourth quarter, Clemson with

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Speaker 8: a twenty eight to fourteen lead over North Carolina. North

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Speaker 8: Carolina the twentieth ranked team in the nation. That one

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Speaker 8: midway through the third quarter. Number twenty fourth ranth Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 8: They were trailing for most of this game. Now have

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Speaker 8: a ten point lead thirty three to twenty three over Houston.

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Speaker 8: Five minutes left in the third quarter. Number seventeenth ranked

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Speaker 8: Arizona pounded twenty second ranked Utah into submission forty to

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Speaker 8: eighteen and eighteen threak James Madison. One of the better

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Speaker 8: stories in college football this year. Well that story ended.

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Speaker 8: App State upset James Madison in overtime twenty six to

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Speaker 8: twenty three, fourth threeteen at the Nation, Florida State kicks

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Speaker 8: off against North Alabama. All right about now, and in

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Speaker 8: the NFL, you got Devon a Chain Miami Dolphins running back.

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Speaker 8: He is activated off of injury reserve ahead of the

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Speaker 8: game with the Raiders and Justin Jefferson not activated. Still

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Speaker 8: dealing with that hamstring injury. He is not activated off

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Speaker 8: injury reserve for Sunday, Kerrie, Steve back to.

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Speaker 2: You, all right, Martin, thank you very much. Once again,

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Football Saturday. Steve Hartman and Kerrie Roads

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Speaker 2: with you. We're live from the tyreq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what about this rash of quarterbacks going down

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Speaker 2: for the year. I mean, this is crazy. What's happening.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm watching Deshaun Watson in that second half

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Speaker 2: fourteen to fourteen, looking like Deshaun Watson for the first

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Speaker 2: time really in a Cleveland Browns uniform, and then he

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Speaker 2: has a season any injury.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what what just happened here?

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow out for the year, Kirk Cousins out for

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Speaker 2: the year, obviously, Aaron Rodgers lost within the first few

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Speaker 2: plays of the season.

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Speaker 3: It's just some big time quarterbacks going down.

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Speaker 4: And it's crazy because the league is so hell bent

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Speaker 4: on keeping these guys healthy and they can't do it.

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Speaker 4: And that's part of what we talk about right there.

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Speaker 4: It's a war of attrition through an NFL season, right

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Speaker 4: It's a gauntlet, and so to try to protect these

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Speaker 4: guys by all these league rule changes and you know,

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Speaker 4: really making the game be flag football. That's not the way.

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Speaker 4: That's not the way you avoid injuries. You avoid injuries

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Speaker 4: by getting hit and going through certain things, and your

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Speaker 4: body becomes accustomed to taking those hits and you know things,

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Speaker 4: that's part of being a professional athlete. And I remember

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Speaker 4: when I was around, we would have the two day

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Speaker 4: camps and we'd be tackling and taking taking each other

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Speaker 4: to the ground, and you build that callous. Your body

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Speaker 4: becomes a customed to being able to take these hits.

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Speaker 4: And I think with the league trying to prevent them

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Speaker 4: these things, they're actually making it worse.

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you one hundred percent, you know,

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Speaker 2: and this is why so many times we see teams

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Speaker 2: with a bye week look stale going up against the

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Speaker 2: team that had that extra game to keep the momentum going.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Look when I you know, going back to my Raider days,

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Speaker 2: back in the Stone Age, it was just part of

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Speaker 2: the game. You just sort of built that body armor

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Speaker 2: based on the abuse you were taken. There were no

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Speaker 2: bye weeks none, I mean, it was just sixteen games

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Speaker 2: right through.

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Speaker 3: That's correct. I mean it was there wasn't it. There was?

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Speaker 3: That was it?

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Speaker 2: And then you wouldn't right through the playoffs. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: no break at all. And and and the quarterbacks they

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Speaker 2: were fair game in those days and getting beat up

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Speaker 2: and everything else, no rope penalties, and somehow those guys

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Speaker 2: survived and played years and years and years.

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Speaker 3: Sure there were some injuries, but no more than we

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Speaker 3: see now.

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Speaker 4: It's way more now, and especially with the non contact

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Speaker 4: stuff that happens a lot of times because your body's

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Speaker 4: just not used to those quick twitch moments and you

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Speaker 4: have to your body has to be ready for that.

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Speaker 4: It has to has to go through the gauntlet of

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Speaker 4: things to get to that point. And so I don't

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Speaker 4: think we're allowing that to happen. And we talk about

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Speaker 4: all these top guys going down, it really shows how

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Speaker 4: inept a lot of these front officers are and these

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Speaker 4: teams are as well. You have to give your team

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Speaker 4: a chance to win. You got to have guys that

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Speaker 4: can back up those guys in a lot of these situations.

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Speaker 3: They don't have backups. Back in the day, you'd have a.

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Speaker 4: Benny Testaberdy in the Chad Pennings and you would always

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Speaker 4: have a chance even if the first guy goes down

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Speaker 4: to still have that backup guy that can get the

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Speaker 4: job done. I think they're not putting the onus on

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Speaker 4: having another guy ready to play if the guy goes down.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's a combination of both.

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Speaker 2: I just heard Martin talk about James Madison suffering their

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Speaker 2: first loss of the year, actually it was their second

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Speaker 2: loss of the week. The NCAA rule that they were

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Speaker 2: not going to be Bawl eligible. They have rules about

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Speaker 2: your first year as an FBS school transferring from the

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Speaker 2: FCS level. They weren't going to change that just to

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Speaker 2: make an exception for James Madison even one loss. Obviously

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Speaker 2: James Madison would be Bowl eligible. But they were talking about, hey,

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Speaker 2: we go undefeated this year. App State took care of

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Speaker 2: him today. Meanwhile, Michigan did not look great today. They

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Speaker 2: were able to prevail on the road against Maryland. What

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Speaker 2: do you make of this whole Jim Harbough situation and

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Speaker 2: do you believe that Jim Harbaugh is coaching his last

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Speaker 2: season at Michigan or because he was making some threats

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Speaker 2: like you know, you haven't seen the last of me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we know that he's been fishing for an NFL job

657
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 2: to get back in the league. I don't know if

658
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: the NFL is all that interested in Jim Harbaugh anymore.

659
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: Last year, I know a couple of teams that weren't

660
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: all that interested in hiring him as a head coach.

661
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Speaker 2: But what do you think of this? I call it

662
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: a witch hunt. I mean, I'm not exactly sure what

663
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Speaker 2: the infraction is. I'm also don't understand how a guy

664
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Speaker 2: could be there could be penalties against the coach when

665
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: an active investigation is still going on. Right, what happened

666
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: to innocent until proven guilty? I'm not quite sure what

667
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: is going on? But what do you make of the situation? Yeah,

668
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: due process has been thrown out the window here.

669
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Speaker 3: I agree with you. It has been a witch hunt.

670
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Speaker 4: And it's really unfortunate because it's taken him some time

671
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 4: to get Michigan to where they are. You know, they

672
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: win games, and they've always won games, but to get

673
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: to where now the last couple of years, he's kind

674
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: of gotten over that hurdle, gotten over that hump to

675
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: be in you know, the college playoff and have a

676
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: real legitimate chance to win.

677
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: Really great coach and a good guy.

678
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Speaker 4: I know him, and so to see him have to

679
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: go through this, especially with the accusations that they but

680
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: they're throwing out there, the cheating, the sign stelling.

681
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Which is all a part of football. I mean, we've

682
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: done that for years. That's what we every sports about.

683
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: Science deal, that's what we do.

684
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 4: We look for any key, any advantage to give us

685
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Speaker 4: the opportunity to win and within the rules, and that's

686
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Speaker 4: what we do. So for this to be the thing

687
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: that's keeping him, preventing him from being with his team

688
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: to actually have a chance to win it all and

689
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 4: coach a successful team through the playoffs and you know,

690
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: possibly a national championship, it really sucks.

691
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: UCLA just scored again. Oh my god, what is that

692
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: scoring now? It's about to be thirty eight to thirteen.

693
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, a little rough way for Caleb Williams

694
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Speaker 2: to wrap up his career at USC.

695
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Just take a couple of knees and get out

696
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: of the healthy right right now.

697
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: And the story was again that Chip kel if UCLA

698
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: lost this game, Chip Kelly is going to be fired

699
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Speaker 2: on the spot.

700
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Speaker 3: He wouldn't even coach next week against Cal.

701
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Speaker 2: Now the word was, well, what if they beat sc well,

702
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: if they beat sc he'll be fired after the Cow game.

703
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: But this is an impressive day for UCLA and what

704
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Speaker 2: a way for Caleb Williams to wrap up his career

705
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Speaker 2: because again USC is Bowl eligible. But I would say

706
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Speaker 2: it's highly unlikely in some low level bowl game that

707
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Speaker 2: you're going to see Caleb Williams take the field.

708
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Speaker 3: All right.

709
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Speaker 2: He won a Heisman Trophy last year. He's not gonna

710
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Speaker 2: win it this year. We only have a couple of

711
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: weeks left.

712
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Speaker 3: I don't like to say this to a lot of people,

713
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Speaker 3: but I actually have a Heisman. View have a.

714
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Speaker 2: Heisman, and I will update you on the current top

715
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Speaker 2: three on my list.

716
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Speaker 3: Coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, Carrie Rhodes. This is Fox Football Saturday. We

718
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Speaker 2: are live from the tiraq dot com studios.

719
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Speaker 3: All right, it's that time, this show.

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Speaker 1: Countdown and co Heisman Watch.

721
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Speaker 2: All right, So this week and then two more weeks

722
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Speaker 2: and then I have to turn in my Heisman ballot,

723
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Speaker 2: and I can say before I give you my current

724
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: top three, this race will not be decided until the

725
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: final games are played.

726
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: It is absolutely wide open. That being said, here is

727
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Speaker 3: my current number three.

728
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 9: Daniels in the pocket now we'll decide to escape and run.

729
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 9: Daniels up the middle of the field, sidestep to the fender.

730
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Speaker 9: He about the forty yard line. Now he's free near side.

731
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Speaker 9: Fifteen to ten to five, touchdown, fighting Tigers. Heisman run

732
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Speaker 9: for the second time tonight.

733
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Speaker 3: Fifty one yards for Jaden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's the LSU Sports Radio Network. Now later

735
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Speaker 2: on ls you'll be playing. And I know you say

736
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: they have three losses. Keep in mind the two statistical

737
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 2: barometers for a quarterback are passing efficiency and total offense.

738
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels leads the nation in both categories by a

739
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: wide margin. That's why he's on my list. Jaden Daniels

740
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Speaker 2: LSU quarterback is my current number three. Here is my

741
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: current number two.

742
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Speaker 10: And now Test comes back and joins Bucky at the

743
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Speaker 10: backfield with bowl and now goes in motional go leet

744
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 10: back to throw bow go to the end zone. We

745
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 10: got it in Franklin touchdown. Try Franklin touchdown. How about

746
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 10: that dark put a strike by Bone knicks at Jerry

747
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 10: Allen from lair field. How about today bow knicks Oregon

748
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 10: leading Arizona State at Arizona State forty two to three

749
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Speaker 10: going into the fourth quarter. Bo Knicks today is twenty

750
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Speaker 10: four of twenty nine four hundred and four yard six touchdowns.

751
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: Ooh, he is the most accurate quarterback potentially for a

752
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: single season and NCAA history almost eighty percent completion rate

753
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: over the season.

754
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Speaker 3: Wow.

755
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: I know he's been in college seemingly forever thirty two years.

756
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: For sure, we'll get to what's remaining on his schedule.

757
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: But Bo Knicks, Oregon quarterback, is my current number two.

758
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 2: Here is my number one, Enzy.

759
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 7: And Bernard Ennix wants to throw looking downfield, looking looking takes.

760
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: A shot, Robtutze, Tody.

761
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: Hold On, Yes, Sir.

762
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 10: Touchdown Wassington Romadutse playing up.

763
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: In the cuff kind of game. Another explosive, this time

764
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Speaker 3: for thirty three.

765
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Tony CASASONI from a lair field, Washing has ten and

766
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Speaker 2: zero for only the second time in their history. Michael

767
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: Pennick Junior leads the nation in passing yards per game,

768
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Speaker 2: and he beat Bo Nicks head to head. So that

769
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 2: being said, the only two other players that I think

770
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: are in the potential conversation are Marvin Harrison junior at

771
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: Ohio State, who today has three catches for thirty yards

772
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: in one touchdown. He's just not putting off enough numbers.

773
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: That being said, he's got Michigan coming up, and then

774
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: if they beat Michigan, he's got the Big ten championship game. Obviously,

775
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: when we talk about bow Knicks and Michael Pennick Junior,

776
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: potentially they have a head to head matchup in a

777
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: PAC twelve championship game. No divisions in the PAC twelve.

778
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: It's the top two finishers. But that being said, Washington

779
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: on the road today against Oregon State. Oregon State will

780
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: also play Oregon next week. Imagine if they beat both

781
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: Pennix and Knicks. And that's why Jayden Daniels is in

782
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: the mix. Milroe at Alabama, he's playing really well down

783
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: the store, playing very well down the stretch. He's got

784
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: three touchdowns today against Chattanooga. But again, what if Alabama

785
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: were to knock off Georgia, And by the way, the

786
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: way Georgia's looking right.

787
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: Now, won't nobody's gonna beat them. But I mean, I mean,

788
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 3: what if? Yeah, yeah, what if?

789
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: So that's why I say this is going to come

790
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: down to conference championship game weekend to decide who is

791
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: the heightsman winner. Because I always look at it this

792
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: way when I vote for the Heisman Trophy, and this

793
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: will be the fourteenth year I've done this. Ultimately, when

794
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: I look at my three finalists, because that's what you

795
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: got on the ballot, three spots. What did you do

796
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: in the biggest game on your schedule, That's what I'm

797
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 2: looking at. I'm looking at your schedule, that was your

798
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: biggest game. What did you do in that biggest game

799
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: in your schedule? And that's how I decide who I

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Speaker 2: vote for for the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's what scouts look at as well. I

802
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 4: mean scouts. I mean I remember coming out we played

803
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 4: We played Miami and the Orange Bowl. They were number

804
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 4: three in the country. We were number eleven or whatever

805
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: the case may be. And out of all the good

806
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: games I had, the one that got me drafted higher

807
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: was playing Miami and the Orange Bowl having two interceptions. Right,

808
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: So it matters the thing about those three guys that

809
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 4: you named, it's it's a testament to them as players

810
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: for getting better throughout their years, because they all had

811
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: hiccups early on in their careers. Yeah, so to be

812
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: where they are right now. I remember Bo Nick's playing

813
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: at Auburn. I didn't think the kid could play at all.

814
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: He transfers, goes to a situation that's right for him,

815
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: right system, and becomes bo Nicks, the one that we

816
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 4: know right now. So it's a testament to all three

817
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: of those guys in the work they've put. In The

818
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Speaker 4: order that I would have right now would be I

819
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Speaker 4: would put bow Knicks at one, Pennis at two, and

820
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Speaker 4: Jane and Daniels at three.

821
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Speaker 3: But it's a toss up.

822
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: By the way, as far as Daniel's and the three losses,

823
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you two quarterbacks that one Heismans with three losses.

824
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Tim Tebow when he won the Heisman as a Softcore

825
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: that was a three loss Florida team. They ended up

826
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Speaker 2: losing their bowl game as well. Of course that didn't matter,

827
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: but he was the first guy to do the twenty

828
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty touchdown passes, twenty rushing touchdowns, and the last

829
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Speaker 2: guy to do is Lamar Jackson. I got a three

830
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Speaker 2: lost Louisville team, and I remember a lot of question

831
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Speaker 2: about him or Deshaun Watson that year, and of course

832
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: the Clemson went on to win the national championship. People

833
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: are like, I want my vote back, and I'm like, no,

834
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Speaker 2: I voted Lamar Jackson won. I had Watson too because

835
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Speaker 2: he was the better quarterback at the time I voted.

836
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Speaker 4: And it was a crazy debate. Actually, what you were

837
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: just saying it matters between the games that you play.

838
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: Those two teams play head to hit, and Deshaun Watson

839
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Speaker 4: actually won. So that was a big thing about that

840
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Speaker 4: during the season.

841
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Speaker 2: By the way, a lot of people say, well, we

842
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: should vote for the Heisman after the bowl games, and

843
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: my answer to that is no, because a lot of

844
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: the stars don't even play in their bowl games anymore.

845
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: It's a regular season award and that's the way it

846
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: should remain. All Right, we got much more college football,

847
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: including that Washington Oregon State matchup and more. Look at

848
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Speaker 2: the NFL Sunday coming up. This is Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 2: up at this Iowa Illinois game. Iowa was leading Illinois

861
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Speaker 2: fifteen to thirteen inside three minutes ago in the third quarter.

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00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: I was kidding that Iowas uniforms obviously look very similar

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Speaker 2: to the Pittsburgh Steeler uniforms.

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Speaker 3: They're almost identical. This is my favorite stat of this season.

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Speaker 3: Bring it so.

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Speaker 2: There are one hundred and thirty FBS schools one hundred

867
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Speaker 2: and thirty FBS schools going into this week total offense.

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Speaker 2: The University of Iowa was number one thirty last dead last,

869
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Speaker 2: I mean, one hundred and thirty FBS schools total offense,

870
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Speaker 2: and Iowa is at the bottom one thirty. And the

871
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: record going into this week eight and ten, eight and two,

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Speaker 2: and they may go to nine and two.

873
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: That's phenomenal.

874
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: Now, Kirk Farrence has been there forever I think he

875
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: coached now Kinnick, I mean, he's he's been at Iowa

876
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: seemingly forever. But how is that possible that a team,

877
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: especially in this day and age where we see these

878
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 2: glossy offensive numbers and these quarterbacks that are a top

879
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: my Heisman list putting up mind boggling numbers that a

880
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: team that is that inept, where they are literally dead

881
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: last in the nation in total offense, could be eight

882
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: and two and they just got a big first down

883
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: to extend they look like they're heading to nine and two.

884
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: That impossible. It defies all odds.

885
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: Steve, Yeah, I mean this team has been in ept

886
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 4: on offense for a long time.

887
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: Yes, and Iowa Steve knows this. It's it's bad.

888
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: But the fact that they keep winning, you're going to

889
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 4: be seven to three, eight and two, eight and three

890
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 4: every year and not have a chance to win the championship.

891
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, because remember they are going to be heading

892
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 2: to the Big Ten championship game and face either Ohio

893
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: State or Michigan and.

894
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: Get beat by two touchdowns easily by either one of

895
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 4: those things.

896
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: But not more.

897
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 4: I mean, the only reason I wouldn't say more is

898
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: because of the brand of football they play. Though the

899
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: brand that they play allows them to be in every game.

900
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Think about this, So Michigan right now, Jim Harbor is

901
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: not going to be on the sidelines for the Ohio

902
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: State game. There's been no mention about the Big Ten

903
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: Championship game. No no, and he has said that they

904
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: will feel the Wrathay, So if he's back on the

905
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: sidelines for a Big Ten championship game Michigan against Iowah,

906
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: he will hold nothing back. I mean, he will roll

907
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: it up like there is literally no tomorrow.

908
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: And you know what, I would pay to see that.

909
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 4: I will actually go to the game to see that happen,

910
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 4: only because he should. He should take all his frustration,

911
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: all the pain, all the suffering that's been brought upon

912
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 4: him and his team in Michigan. In ann Arbor, I

913
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: would do the same thing.

914
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm not a big Michigan fan.

915
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm not a Big ten fan growing up as a

916
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: West Coast guy, but I do sympathize with him, and

917
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: it just seems so petty whatever they're putting him through.

918
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 3: But you know, everyone's like, well, what does this mean

919
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: beyond the Big Ten season?

920
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: Again, I found it very curious that there's no announcement

921
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: about Michigan, which needs to win one more game to

922
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: get to the Big Ten Championship game, about his status

923
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: to stand on the sideline for the Big Ten championship game,

924
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: and obviously the playoff is completely out of the jurisdiction

925
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: of the Big Ten. They have nothing to do with that.

926
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: That's a that's a play for the playoffs. So they're

927
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: in the playoff. He's going to be there, which could

928
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: be a good news for their opponents since their own

929
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: to the last year.

930
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: How did they lose the TCU last year? How is

931
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: that possible?

932
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the TCU team that then lost sixty five to

933
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: seven to Georgia the following game.

934
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did they lose?

935
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 4: I remember watching that game too. I remember, I just

936
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 4: remember all the breaks going to It was just one

937
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 4: of those. It was a Fluke game. I remember really

938
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 4: watching him as saying.

939
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean Max Duggan really yeah, I mean it.

940
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 4: Was a great story, Mats Well, the story was a

941
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: great story. Yeah, but yeah, they should not have lost

942
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 4: that game.

943
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: All right, So we got a lot going on this

944
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: USC UCLA game. Now inside three minutes clock is ticking.

945
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: Sed get a late touchdown, but it's not going to matter.

946
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: UCLA is going to win this game. Thirty eight twenty

947
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier Chip Kelly, And by the way, usually

948
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: with these rivalry games, nothing is a better job saver

949
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: than beating your rival. I remember Terry Donahue at his

950
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: end of his run at UCLA. They weren't all that great,

951
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: but he had five straight wins against sc at the end,

952
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: which is how he continued to come back year after year.

953
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: But this is not going to be the case for

954
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: chip Kelly. I've been told by many reliable sources, regardless

955
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: of how UCLA ends the season, the chip Kelly's days

956
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: are numbered as they move into the Big.

957
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: Ten this year.

958
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: And we mentioned this early Carrie, when we talked about

959
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: this early in the season, about this literally being the

960
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: last year of college football as we have known it

961
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: for pretty much forever, with the complete dismantling of the

962
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: Pac twelve, with Texas and Oklahoma moving into the SCC.

963
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 2: Next year, you know four teams from the Pac twelve, Washington,

964
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 2: Oregon with US and Usuly moving the Big Ten, Colorado, Utah,

965
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: the Arizona schools moving the Big twelve, Stanford and Cal

966
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: moving to the ACC. And you know, if I were Michigan,

967
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: now that they these schools can go wherever they want,

968
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: whenever they want.

969
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: If I'm Michigan, I'm like, I'll tell you what Big ten.

970
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: You gonna jump ship? Why do we need you?

971
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: Right, I'm on the horn with the Big twelve. I'm

972
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: on the horn with the ACC I'm on the horn

973
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: with the sec. Are you interested in the Big House?

974
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand fans? Any interest in the Big House?

975
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 2: Because we fill that thing every game? A lot of money?

976
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: That's not a lot of money?

977
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, anybody interested in Michigan?

978
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: I think so, man, that would be daring and bold,

979
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: and with all the realignment, I wouldn't put it past them.

980
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

981
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm Michigan, why would I put up

982
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: with this nonsense? And you know who's behind it. There's

983
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: only one school that's really affected by any success of

984
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: Michigan has that's Ohio State.

985
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: Oh to the state.

986
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I who know who's behind this planning the seed?

987
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: And so UCLA taking a knee right now, final seconds,

988
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: and that is it. UCLA has defeated USC thirty eight

989
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: to twenty, and most likely Caleb Williams farewell. He's not

990
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: crying today. He's got a smile on his face. He's

991
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: gonna be a very rich guy soon.

992
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good. He's already a rich guy. He's already

993
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: a lot of money.

994
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what about Lincoln Riley though, What is

995
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 2: going to go on with the future of Lincoln Riley.

996
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: This guy is being paid a boat load. Chip Kelly's like, look,

997
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get fired and I.

998
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 4: Beat you today. That that was the Clints right there,

999
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 4: That was the hug. You know, I'm going, hey, if

1000
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: you need a spot, I'm right there with you.

1001
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 6: You know.

1002
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: So it's probably that conversation going on. What if Yeah,

1003
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 4: I mean, Chip Kelly's an offensive guy, so it doesn't

1004
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 4: really help to bring him on over the jump ship.

1005
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, I'm sure it's some some very some

1006
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 4: very solid words going on between the muffled hug.

1007
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: The muffled hug there, Kirbye Smart and Georgia today went

1008
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: into Tennessee and worked him by a score of thirty

1009
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: eight to ten. You saw the first play from scrimmage,

1010
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: Tennessee running back round seventy five yards for a touchdown.

1011
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: First play of scrimmage, Tennessee got three points the rest

1012
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: of the way. Georgia ties the SEC record for most

1013
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: consecutive wins. They're at twenty eight in a row. They're

1014
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: building momentum each week, looking better and better and better

1015
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: and trying to do something that no team has ever done.

1016
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: No team has ever won three national championships in a row.

1017
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: The AP pole dates back to nineteen thirty six. Yeah,

1018
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: no team has won that championship three consecutive seasons. When

1019
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: you look at Georgia right now, you look at Michigan,

1020
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: you look at Ohio State, Florida State's still undefeated. Obviously,

1021
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: Washington's still undefeated. A lot of work to do there.

1022
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: Anybody gonna slow down the Bulldogs.

1023
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 4: The only team that has a shot is in their

1024
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 4: own division. Yeah, and that's Alabama. Yeah, that's the only

1025
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: team that I can see that could challenge them. I

1026
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 4: mean the way that mir Row has grown throughout the

1027
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 4: year and actually gotten his confidence. And you know, it's

1028
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 4: crazy when you're a young guy and a talented guy

1029
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 4: and you expect it to do something and you have

1030
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 4: a little hiccup and then your coach, you know, you know,

1031
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 4: sits down for a minute, and you get to actually

1032
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: as bench down a week. Yeah, but you get to

1033
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 4: assess it and you get to understand how the game works.

1034
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: And then the coach gives you that vote of confidence

1035
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 4: to go back back in there, and he's playing that

1036
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 4: way now and outside of Alabama, no team is going

1037
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 4: to stop Georgia. Georgia's, you know, in the past, has

1038
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 4: been known for their defense and their defensive players and

1039
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: a running game and a quarterback that can occasionally make

1040
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 4: a pay a play.

1041
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: Carson Beck can play football. Oh yeah, vacint we know

1042
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: he's a better quarterback sEH oh, no question. I mean

1043
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: sets and Bennet was an overachiever and you know he

1044
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 2: had a great college career. Obviously give you a cap

1045
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: by being a Heisman finalist last year and deservely so.

1046
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: I mean, he was the leader of a great back

1047
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: to back national champion Georgia team.

1048
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: But no, BECs Beck's he's a better quarterback this and

1049
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 3: this team made.

1050
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 4: It's hard to say this because their defense has been

1051
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: so staunched over the over the years. Yeah, but this

1052
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 4: team is a better team than those teams.

1053
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: They have a better offense. I think that, and that's yeah,

1054
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 3: for sure.

1055
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: I think they absolutely have a better offense. Only got

1056
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks lead. Now we're getting ready for

1057
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: the kickoff of a game that could change a lot

1058
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 2: of things quickly, and that is Washington on the road

1059
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: against Oregon.

1060
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 3: State.

1061
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 2: I heard on college Game Day they were harkening back

1062
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: to a very famous Oregon State team.

1063
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: There haven't been many.

1064
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: It goes back to nineteen sixty seven Oregon State. That

1065
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: year they were the Giant Killers is what they were called.

1066
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 2: They played an undefeated Purdue team that was ranked number

1067
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: two in the country beat them. They then played a

1068
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 2: UCLA team that was ranked number two in the country

1069
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: and tied them in the days before when they still

1070
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: had ties. And then they played usc who was undefeated,

1071
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: ranked number one with oj Simpson and beat them.

1072
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 3: Oh wow, So they beat in the space of several weeks.

1073
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: They beat the number two, number two, we'll tie the

1074
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: number two and then beat the number one team. Oregon

1075
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: State is home against Washington this week, and then they

1076
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: have Oregon next week in the Civil War. And this

1077
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: is the eleventh ranked team of the country. Oregon State's

1078
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: a good teammate, a good team. Dj Uyungalalay's played much

1079
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: better with Oregon State than he did in his Clemson

1080
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: days and he's also building a lot of confidence. So

1081
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: this is a huge game coming up. It's gonna be

1082
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: kicking off short. Yeah, it's gonna be a huge game.

1083
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 4: I'm actually excited to see this one. There are certain

1084
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 4: games throughout the weeks when it holds so much importance

1085
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 4: and you actually, again you talked about DJ wanted to

1086
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: see him kind of settle in and start to play

1087
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 4: the football that we all expected him to play. I mean,

1088
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 4: he's not playing on that level, but he's playing in

1089
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: an offense where he's able to you know, it fits him.

1090
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 4: He runs, he runs tough between the tackles, he can

1091
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: get first downs, he can manage the ball down the field,

1092
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 4: and he looks good with that team. And so this

1093
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 4: game Oregon State Washington for all the marbles to Washington,

1094
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 4: and they really need to get this game to get

1095
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 4: to that next level of I mean even last year

1096
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 4: that Washington was kind of in the same boat, right

1097
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: they were hanging around the team that was like, Oh,

1098
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, this team can win the Pac

1099
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: twelve and Pack ten and go to the playoffs and

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00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 4: then they lose. Right, they're used to doing that. I

1101
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: actually see them losing this game as well.

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00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 3: Well.

1103
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to play better than they have the

1104
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: last several weeks. Pennix has been able to get some

1105
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: big plays late in games to Eke out a few

1106
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: Washington victories, but this is a different level, especially on

1107
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the football. All right, coming up

1108
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: on the other side, we're gonna get back to little

1109
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: NFL news. We're at that point of the season where

1110
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: we can sort of cite the real contenders and some

1111
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: teams that are frauds. And I got one team in

1112
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: particular that I'm gonna tell you do not bet on

1113
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: this team to make a deep run in the playoffs.

1114
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: Which team you'll find out? This is Fox Football Saturday Plumber.

1115
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: They run into each other.

1116
00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: The two he's gonna score all the way down is

1117
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: the Miami defenders run into each other for not.

1118
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: Who made the tackle. I'm tired, coach, arn't you.

1119
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: I gotta love it.

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Speaker 9: Louisville thirty eight Miami thirty one.

1121
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 3: That's Paul Rodgers from Lairfield there.

1122
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: And yes, Carrie's tenth rang Louisville Cardinals taking care of

1123
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: business defeating the Hurricanes of Miami thirty eight to thirty one.

1124
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 2: They have now earned a slot in that ACC Championship game.

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Speaker 2: Jack Plumber A couple of things about Jack Plumber. He

1126
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: was at Purdue for four years, including a red shirt year.

1127
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: He went to cal last year and this year a

1128
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 2: one year, sixth year rental at Louisville. By the way,

1129
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: he is no relation to Jake Plumber. There's because his

1130
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: name is Jack Plumber. Oh is that like Jake Plumber's kid.

1131
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: It's not no relation to the college Football Hall of

1132
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: Famer out of Arizona State, Jake Plumber, but Jack Plumber

1133
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: leading Louisville to that big win.

1134
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 3: All right.

1135
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: So during the break, we are talking about Florida State

1136
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: trailing South Alabama, a team that's three and seven this

1137
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 2: year by a score of thirteen. North air Obabama, excuse me.

1138
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: And so we're watching the game, literally just turning to

1139
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 2: watch the game because we've flipped the game on Jordan Travis,

1140
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 2: who had an outstanding year for Florida State this year.

1141
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: He's on a scramble, he runs up the middle, he

1142
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: gets tackled and as he as the unpile of the body,

1143
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: his left ankle was literally pointing in the wrong direction.

1144
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 2: It was a complete snap of the ankle and they

1145
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: cut away immediately wisely show from the telecast.

1146
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: But just.

1147
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: I mean, for us mere mortals, when we see injuries

1148
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 2: like that, we just I mean, yeah, freak out. But

1149
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: for someone that plays the game, it's devastating and they

1150
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: are showing. Florida State fans are in a state of

1151
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: shock right now as Travis is being helped off the

1152
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 2: field obviously a season over and his future. I mean,

1153
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 2: we see these devastating injuries and he think they'll never

1154
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: play again.

1155
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 3: That was.

1156
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 4: It was brutal, brutal. I feel for the kid. I know,

1157
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 4: the kid he came in as a Louisville recruit, he

1158
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: spent a couple of years there, transfers to Florida State

1159
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 4: and becomes the Jordan Travis that we all know now,

1160
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 4: and you know, had this team flying high number four

1161
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 4: in the country, I mean, playing really good football for them,

1162
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 4: and to see something like that, I mean my heart

1163
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: goes out to him, and it goes out to his

1164
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 4: family man and to his teammates as well, because they

1165
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: love the kid down there too.

1166
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: So it's a gut punch for sure. Yeah, that is it.

1167
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 2: That is the end of his career. So Jordan Travis, Yeah,

1168
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: it was.

1169
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 4: It was not good. It was not good. We you know,

1170
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 4: in the studio, Steve talked about it. I mean, you

1171
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 4: watch these games as fans and obviously if it's not

1172
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 4: somebody on your team. You you know you there's a

1173
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 4: human element of it that we appreciate.

1174
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: We know how tough it is.

1175
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: But when you're on that field and you go to

1176
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 4: war with someone like that and for him to be

1177
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 4: your leader, someone that you you you really look up to,

1178
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 4: to see them go down in that way, it's it's just, uh,

1179
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 4: it's it's heartbreaking.

1180
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: And well, it's been such a comeback year for Florida

1181
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: State football, who was so dominant for so many years

1182
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: and then you know, sort of went sideways, and we've

1183
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: been trying to find the right coach to try to

1184
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: bring back Florida State to prominence, and obviously Jordan Travis

1185
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: such a part of that. He's been sort of like

1186
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 2: my fringe with Heisman candidates, sort of waiting to see

1187
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: how it plays out. But wow, that is devastating. So

1188
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going to see that highly. You're

1189
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: going to have to find it somewhere else. But it

1190
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: was a scramble play, seem like a rather routine tackle,

1191
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 2: but his.

1192
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 3: Ankle completely snapped. Yeah, lower leg.

1193
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was one of those It's gruesome. If you

1194
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: have a queasy stomach or you don't like those things.

1195
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 4: Definitely sail away.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is Fox a Football Saturday, Steve

1197
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: Hartman and Carrie Rhodes with you. We're coming alive from

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00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: the tire Rack Doc Studios. Shortly after the show, our

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Speaker 2: podcasts will be going up. If you missed any of

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Speaker 2: today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. Just

1201
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. Be

1202
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,

1203
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you can get your

1204
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: podcasts and see this show posted right after we get

1205
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: off the air. All right, I want to get to

1206
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: the NFL for a second here, and it always amazes

1207
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: me week to week the bandwagon fans based on a

1208
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: single game. Yeah, and if you don't know the NFL

1209
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: by now, and I know if you gamble on the NFL,

1210
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: you certainly know what I'm talking about. What happens one

1211
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: week has zero bearing on the next week. We see

1212
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: it week after week after week. Every time you're about

1213
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: to jump on the bandwagon with a team, they lay

1214
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 2: an egg. But there's one team that is getting a

1215
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: lot of hype this week, and I'm like, you gotta

1216
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: be kidding me, And that is the Dallas Cowboys. So

1217
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are sitting at six and three right now,

1218
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: and that's a pretty good record. They're sitting at six

1219
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: and three, and they just blew out the hapless Giants

1220
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: forty nine to seventeen, and a couple of weeks ago

1221
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 2: they blew out the Rams forty three to twenty, and

1222
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 2: in between they played a competitive game against the Eagles,

1223
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: of which they lost. Keep in mind, they have played

1224
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 2: nine games this year, nine games. Of those nine teams,

1225
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 2: only two of them currently have a winning record.

1226
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: That would be the Eagles, who they.

1227
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: Lost in narrow get lost to, and the forty nine

1228
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: Ers who blew them out. So in other words, all

1229
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: six of their wins are against teams that currently have

1230
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 2: a losing record. One of their losses was to the

1231
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals, who only have one win this year.

1232
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: Okay, one win.

1233
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 2: Now, Joshua Dobbs was the quarterback, and all of a sudden,

1234
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: Dobbs has become a big story. We can get that

1235
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: out a little bit later on. But the idea that

1236
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: somehow the Cowboys have put themselves back into the conversation

1237
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: for a Super Bowl run, to me is absurd. And

1238
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: there I even heard one person say that no quarterback

1239
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: is playing better right now than Dak Prescott. Now, and

1240
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 2: I give you one right now that is playing better

1241
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: than Dak Prescott, and that's the rookie CJ. Stroud for

1242
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: sure is playing better than Dak Prescott. So I know

1243
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people of this America's team and

1244
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: everything else. They haven't evenmitted to a conference championship game

1245
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: since the nineteen ninety five season. Yeah, so I mean,

1246
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: I I mean, I know there are a lot of

1247
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: anxious Cowboy fans, and I've said it. I mean, at

1248
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: some point the football guys are gonna say, all right,

1249
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: come on enough, we're gonna give you something, and we're

1250
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: gonna put you back in the conversation.

1251
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 3: I mean, would you have the Cowboys ranked over the

1252
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 3: Lions right now? No, that's fourth, They're fourth.

1253
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so you have the Eagles, yep, you have the Lions, yep.

1254
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 2: Santa Fran the forty nine ers, and the forty nine ers. Yeah, sure,

1255
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: so they're fourth. But I mean obviously that order can

1256
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: can can be uh.

1257
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 3: I mean, are they all that much better than Seattle? Yes? Okay,

1258
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: so they're better in Seattle.

1259
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 4: Better than Seattle, Yeah, yeah, they're four. They're firmly in four.

1260
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 4: But they are planned better. I think offensively they're planning.

1261
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 4: They're planned better. I don't think defensively they are. So

1262
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 4: I think there's they haven't had a time this season

1263
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: where both were clicking together for any period of time.

1264
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 4: So if they can figure that out, then we can

1265
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 4: talk about it later. But right now, yeah, I think

1266
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 4: they're firmly cemented at the fourth spot in the NFC

1267
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 4: right now.

1268
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: And by the way, in the AFC.

1269
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: Another team that I would put in the exact same category.

1270
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: The doll the Miami Dolphins.

1271
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 2: I mean, their wins this year are against the Chargers again,

1272
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: they should have lost that opening game. They beat the Patriots,

1273
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: they beat the Broncos, they beat the Giants, the Panthers,

1274
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: and the Patriots. Again, none of those counts. Those are

1275
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 2: all teams with currently losing records. They lost badly on

1276
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: the road to the Bills, they lost convincingly on the

1277
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 2: road to the Eagles, and they were competitive, but they

1278
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: lost to the Chiefs at home. I'm sorry that that

1279
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: is not enough to put you in Super Bowl conversation. Yeah, no,

1280
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: not right now, not at all.

1281
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: But I think with Miami since we're talking to Miami

1282
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 4: a little bit of here as well. They're getting healthier

1283
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: and they're getting their main guys back on defense. They

1284
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 4: just got a chain back as well. So let's see

1285
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: how they go moving forward from here. But at this moment,

1286
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 4: you're correct, they both are in the same boat. They

1287
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 4: haven't had any really real quality wins and so but

1288
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 4: again in the NFL, a wins a win.

1289
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 3: We talked about that earlier with the Steelers.

1290
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 4: Right, so they're winning and until they don't win anymore

1291
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 4: and lose in the playoffs. And right now we have

1292
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 4: to say, right now, Miami's the leader in the AFC's right.

1293
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to figure out on the AFC side,

1294
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, it's a two horse race between

1295
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and Ravens. Sorry anybody else in the I

1296
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: mean after Jacksonville. Obviously, last week as Jacksonville hosted the

1297
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers, both teams coming off the bye week.

1298
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: Jacksonville had a five game winning streak, forty nine Ers

1299
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: at three game lanning streak, a losing streak, and of

1300
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 2: course you know forty nine Ers are going to health

1301
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 2: they go this is the week when we can actually

1302
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: figure out whether we should be talking about Jacksonville.

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01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 6: Now.

1304
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: They got smoked. I mean it's absolutely smoked at home.

1305
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: So you look at the AFC right now. We're not

1306
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 2: going to take the Steelers seriously or the Browns, the Texans.

1307
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: Is it possible the Texans, I mean Texans in Miami

1308
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 2: as the number three team behind the Chiefs and the Ravens.

1309
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's a possibility. Yeah, for sure, because somebody

1310
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 4: has to win that division. And so I mean Jacksonville obviously,

1311
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 4: I think they are the team that's going to ultimately

1312
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 4: win that division.

1313
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 3: And uh, it's but we'll see.

1314
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Jacksonville is in that I mean, yeah,

1315
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 4: it's it's a tough one. I think, I mean, Jacksonville's

1316
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 4: gonna win that division, but Houston's right there.

1317
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's find out what is a trending

1318
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 2: Right now, we welcome Martin back into the mix right now,

1319
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: who is doing double duty doing updates and preparing for

1320
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 2: his own award winning show which will follow this show.

1321
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 8: That'll be it just about half an hour from now.

1322
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 8: I'll be on there in the nassy. Carry keep it

1323
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 8: warm for me, you know what, Turn your headphones down,

1324
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 8: definite headphones.

1325
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no, most.

1326
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: Of all, I've said this to you Martin anytimes. He's

1327
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: someone that's been doing this as long as I have.

1328
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: And yes I'm deaf, yeah, Martin, So I I get

1329
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: an adrenaline rush every word I speak.

1330
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's not that it's not vanity for me.

1331
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 4: It's I do music right, So I have to hear

1332
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 4: all the nuances in the citio.

1333
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 3: I will turn down, but I will Now. Usually I

1334
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: have to run out of here to do TV. I

1335
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 3: don't have to do that today. So I'm going to

1336
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: purposely turn them down, I say, mister, I do music

1337
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: over here. Mister, I've been in radio since the start

1338
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: of time. No wonder y'all a de because you turn

1339
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: it up too loud. I'm trying to be in this

1340
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 3: business for at least the next thirty years. I need

1341
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 3: these years. I only got two of them.

1342
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the early Marconi radio that I worked with, it

1343
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: was it didn't work well.

1344
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 3: So I had to turn up just to hear.

1345
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 8: Well, you guys talked about it just a minute ago.

1346
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 8: Florida State right now, the fourth three team in the nation.

1347
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 8: They trail North Alabama thirteen to three. Florida State just

1348
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 8: kicked the field goal, but starting quarterback Jordan Travis card

1349
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 8: it off the field off after a groups from ankle injury.

1350
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 8: It's one of those Kevin where willis McGahee. If you're

1351
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 8: not into it, don't well find it, because you'll find

1352
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 8: what you're looking for. Everybody in Doak Walker right now,

1353
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 8: State and everybody concerned.

1354
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: It was senior night.

1355
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 8: The Florida State Seminoles announced all the seniors in that

1356
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 8: medical order. Jordan Travis came out last. It was a

1357
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 8: big moment and everybody was going crazy because again, you

1358
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 8: know one of the I mean, at this point, one of.

1359
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: The best quarterbacks in Florida State history, Jordan Travis.

1360
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he is out and not expected to return

1361
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 8: at all this season. Probably junior Tate Rodemaker in for

1362
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 8: the Seminoles. He led that field goal drive again. They

1363
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 8: trailed North Alabama with twelve minutes to thirty seconds left

1364
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 8: in the second quarter, thirteen to three. Number six Oregon

1365
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 8: took care of Arizon the state forty nine to three

1366
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 8: and number sixteenth rank Io We took care of Illinois

1367
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 8: fifteen to thirteen. Clemson just beat North Rank Clemson just

1368
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 8: beat number twentieth rank North Carolina thirty one to twenty

1369
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 8: twenty fourth, twenty one rank Kansas over let's do that again,

1370
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 8: twenty first rank Kansas State over number twentieth Kansas seven

1371
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 8: and nothing right now, eight minutes left in the first quarter,

1372
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 8: and in the fourth quarter as clock is winding down,

1373
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 8: Oklahoma State came back, stormed back. Really Houston was I

1374
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 8: think thirty nine unanswered points some crazy like that. But

1375
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 8: forty three to thirty Oklahoma State, the twenty third ranked

1376
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 8: team in the nation, over the Houston Cougars. Carrie, Steve

1377
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 8: back to you, Now here's what I would do with

1378
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 8: all those rankings. Okay, so this is just me Martin.

1379
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 8: Because you have rankings and then you have scores on top.

1380
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 8: That's a lot of numbers. Too many numbers, Steve, too

1381
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 8: many numbers.

1382
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Speaker 2: So unless you have like top ranked Georgia, I mean,

1383
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, Carrie, is it really interesting to you know,

1384
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: twentieth rank North Carolina ranked losing to Clemson.

1385
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, well they're twentieth. I mean they were

1386
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 3: compete in the ACC. Yeah, yeah.

1387
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: Couldn't you just say Clemson took care of North Carolina today?

1388
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 3: No, Steve, they got to get the prestige. If they're

1389
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 3: twentieth in the country, then.

1390
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Speaker 2: Is that prestigious for Clemson to beat the twentieth ranked

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01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: team in the country at home?

1392
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 4: No storm the field after the game, Clemson fans thought

1393
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,479
Speaker 4: Clemson stormed the field. Yeah, that's the best look that good.

1394
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Let's throw out the rankings, let's

1395
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 4: throw him out.

1396
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. Martin and I were talking about this early.

1397
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: A lot of numbers out there. Thank you very much,

1398
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: Martin has always well. Once again, this is Fox Football Saturday,

1399
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman and carry roads with you. We are live

1400
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 2: from the ti iraq dot com studios. I did want

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01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 2: to ask you about Joshua Dobbs and one of the

1402
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 2: great stories in the NFL, in fact, is what he

1403
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: has done has put himself in the conversation for NFL

1404
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: Comeback Player of the Year. But his comeback and so

1405
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: many people say, well, a guy can't do this, and

1406
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm likeah.

1407
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: He can't. Gino Smith.

1408
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Gino Smith assumed the control of the Seahawks

1409
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: at the start of the last season, I didn't even

1410
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 2: know he was still in the league. I didn't either,

1411
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: So you got Joshua Dobbs, who's been bouncing around this

1412
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: league forever. He ends up with Arizona because they needed

1413
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,440
Speaker 2: a quarterback with the injury.

1414
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 3: To Kyle Mrie.

1415
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: Then they trade him away to Minnesota because Kirk Cousins

1416
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 2: is out. Meanwhile, they're getting their Jay and all ready

1417
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 2: to play the rookie he had been the backup all week.

1418
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: He doesn't even get to take a single snap, meaning

1419
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: Joshua Dobbs a whole week obviously with his new team

1420
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 2: first string, and then he's forced into the game and

1421
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 2: leads the comeback and then picks it up and does

1422
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 2: it again all of a sudden. If you're the Minnesota Vikings,

1423
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: you're like, wait a second, all right, So a lot

1424
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 2: of teams might be interested in Kirk Cousins. Of course

1425
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 2: he's coming off a blown Achilles Joshua Dobbs. Could it

1426
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: be a Geno Smith situation? And I hear these interviews

1427
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: with Dobbs. You know how he's been able to survive

1428
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: all these years. One he's a very smart quarterback obviously, yep.

1429
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: And he can do a lot of things for you.

1430
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: He can run, he can throw, He obviously could pick

1431
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: up an offense real quick.

1432
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 3: He didn't even know his teammates' names. You didn't even

1433
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 3: know the place.

1434
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 2: No, I mean we were kiddy because we were watching

1435
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: that game live. Like if you're Dobbs knowing that you

1436
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 2: haven't taken a single snap with these people. If I'm

1437
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 2: the coach, I'm just saying, all right, look for an

1438
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: open receiver if there's just run otherwise. Oh and they

1439
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: did more than that. But I mean, how when you

1440
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: see stories like this in the NFL as someone again

1441
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: that played in this league as long as you did

1442
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 2: carry does that give you a greater appreciation? Is there

1443
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 2: any way to translate to us in the world. How

1444
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: miraculous what Dodds.

1445
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 3: Is doing with the Vikings is right now?

1446
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 4: I mean you just look at your your your normal

1447
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 4: McDonald's worker. Right, Let's take it to those terms, like

1448
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 4: you have to learn what the stations are. You got

1449
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 4: to learn who are in those stations. There's shift changes.

1450
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 4: You go from fries to mopping, from mopping to dishes.

1451
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 3: With no training, Like you're just walking the door and

1452
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 3: if you.

1453
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 4: Walk into McDonald's in the back, you would be lost.

1454
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 4: You wouldn't know how to operate the fry machine. So

1455
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 4: for him to go out there and be a competent,

1456
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 4: more than competent NFL starter on a team that's fighting

1457
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs and go in and be the

1458
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 4: team in the Atlanta who was had some momentum at

1459
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 4: the time and was in the playoff hunt themselves to

1460
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 4: go in there and to lead two drives down the

1461
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 4: stretch to beat them. It's just there's no quantifiable way

1462
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 4: to describe it. And for a guy like that to

1463
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 4: come after that, you can rest on those laurels.

1464
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: Right.

1465
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 4: I just came in in two days and won a game,

1466
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 4: and now I come back the next week and even

1467
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 4: you know one up that.

1468
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 3: It's just remarkable.

1469
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 2: Man.

1470
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm so happy for him, and I'm happy that he

1471
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 4: has a chance to have some success and people understand

1472
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 4: who he is as a player and not just as

1473
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 4: the smart guy that people kind of, you know, quantify

1474
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 4: him as well.

1475
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 3: Let's put it this way.

1476
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 2: He has as many wins if he count him coming

1477
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 2: in relief to win that first game of the Vikings, yeah,

1478
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 2: as Bill Belichick has this year with the New England Patriots. Two.

1479
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. The Belichick situation in New England, is it fixable?

1480
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 4: No, it's done. You call something your way right. For

1481
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 4: so long, it's called the Patriot way. Right, those days

1482
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 4: are over. The kids are different. These guys that are

1483
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 4: coming in, they they try to get away with more

1484
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 4: having less, and they have done that in the past,

1485
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 4: but nowadays you gotta have talent, and that team has

1486
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,799
Speaker 4: zero talent. And if you don't have talent that buys

1487
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 4: into your scheme anymore, you're not going to have the

1488
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 4: guy that doesn't have talent buy in because he can't

1489
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 4: buy in. He can't do those same things. So right

1490
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 4: now it's over. You can can I start you for

1491
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 4: a second. I want to say this question, was there

1492
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 4: ever a Patriot Way?

1493
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: I mean, when you take a Wes Welker, who is

1494
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: a nobody, it becomes an All Pro. When you take

1495
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: a Jillian Edelman who is a college quarterback, a special

1496
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: teams guy, and he becomes a Super Bowl MVP.

1497
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: Wasn't the Patriot Wade the Brady way?

1498
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at if you look at

1499
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 2: Belichick's record, it's five years in Cleveland and the years

1500
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: in New eng them when he has not had Tom Brady.

1501
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: If you had all those years and that's six that's

1502
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 2: ten years. Yeah, one playoff win in all those years combined,

1503
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: I will I mean, I mean, I don't know how

1504
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: his legacy if this season ends four and thirteen and

1505
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: he is dismissed, which seems likely at this point, Yeah,

1506
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 2: and he never coaches again. Six super Bowls, nine super

1507
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: bowl I mean, all of this is going to be

1508
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: on the table, like how much was Belichick and how

1509
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: much of it literally was the Brady way not the

1510
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: Belichick way.

1511
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 4: You got a fair argument there, and I was one

1512
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 4: that believed it was more Belichick than Brady. Well, I

1513
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 4: think a lot of people that while I was a player,

1514
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 4: like I really thought that because Brady obviously would step

1515
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: up in those big moments, and you know you would.

1516
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 4: You could see that. You can understand that and appreciate that.

1517
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 4: But even when Brady wasn't there, though they didn't make

1518
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 4: the playoffs that one year I think it was oh seven,

1519
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 4: when when Brady.

1520
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: Got hurt, they.

1521
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: Wanted eleven games with Madcastle.

1522
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 4: So you could see that, and that was a sticking

1523
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 4: point for a lot of people who are like, oh,

1524
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 4: they still can win without them, but they never won

1525
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 4: the big one without them. And so now as I've

1526
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:22,919
Speaker 4: gotten older and appreciated Brady for really what what he's done.

1527
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: You got you got a fair point there, Steve Emily.

1528
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: I don't want to dismiss the guy's career. I mean

1529
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: he's on the Mount Russ Morrick coaches. He's won more

1530
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowls than ain't coach period. And to me, you know,

1531
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: how do you agree coaches? It's very simple, wins and losses.

1532
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 2: There's nothing, nothing else I can go by. But this

1533
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: catastrophe this year for the Patriots really comes as no surprise.

1534
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: And when you look at what he did a year

1535
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: ago to derail his coach, quarterback Mac Jones after his

1536
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 2: great rookie season by not having a legitimate offensive coordinator

1537
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 2: and then throwing Bill O'Brien into the mix to try

1538
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: to fix the mess that he created.

1539
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the.

1540
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: Bottom line with any head coach, you are the buck

1541
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: stops here. So this two and eight sits square on

1542
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,440
Speaker 2: the shoulders of Bill Belichick.

1543
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 4: And the crazy thing about it to me is he

1544
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 4: can steal coach. But the problem with him ego yeah,

1545
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 4: and trying to be the GM as well. Those are

1546
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 4: the players he's picking like, these guys have no talent.

1547
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 4: So I think if he goes to a situation because

1548
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 4: I've heard rumblings that he may go somewhere else or whatever.

1549
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 4: He has to solely focus on coaching, not your players.

1550
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 4: We're going to bring in the best players that we

1551
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 4: can bring in. You coach him up, and I think

1552
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 4: that's a big part of the problem.

1553
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 2: All right, coming happ on the other side, more NFL

1554
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: news and we'll sort of shake out over these last

1555
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 2: couple of weeks the different scenarios that could play out

1556
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 2: in which four schools end up in the playoff.

1557
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 3: This is Fox Football Saturday. Can they get this play away? Yes?

1558
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 6: Right at the horn, cast goes underneath Habermill's got it

1559
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 6: a juke move at the ten, big guy going, big

1560
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 6: guy in there, touchdown Ucla Huggson Haveermill for the second

1561
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 6: time today, would.

1562
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:17,719
Speaker 3: Not be denied.

1563
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: That's Josh Lewin right there from lear Field. It's our

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Speaker 2: progressive play of the day. Actually it was my play

1565
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 2: of the day with UCLA taking care of USC today

1566
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 2: by a score of thirty eight to twenty. It is

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1573
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Speaker 2: tirag dot com studios are amazing supporting cast Lorena as usual, phenomenal, flawless, perfect.

1574
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 3: As usual running the show on the board.

1575
01:16:58,280 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 2: I have no idea you talk about how would you

1576
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: like to handle that job, like say, first day on

1577
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: the job, start pushing buttons? Yeah, no, no, I won't

1578
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: even know what I can't push the snow button. But

1579
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 2: Lorraina does it flawless, see every single day. Of course,

1580
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 2: Martin who's already getting ready for his show. He was

1581
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 2: doing the updates, and and Brandon. By the way, I

1582
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: didn't get your thoughts on Brady Hoak announcing his retirement

1583
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 2: from San Diego State New future for the Aztecs. I

1584
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: love Brady Hoak. Yeah, he's a great guy, great guy.

1585
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 2: But he announced his retirement. It was, yeah, by the way,

1586
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 2: very tough week in San Diego. Peter Seidler was the

1587
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 2: owner of the Patres, someone that I got to know

1588
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 2: very very well, absolutely wonderful man. I put it on

1589
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 2: social media that he was without question, the greatest team

1590
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 2: owner in San Diego sports history, because he's the only

1591
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: owner that actually said I'm going to do whatever it takes,

1592
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: not just talk the he walked the walk, jacking up

1593
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: that payroll of the Potteris didn't work out this year.

1594
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: He had a sense of his own mortality. Had been

1595
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: a two time cancer survivor. I had heard a few

1596
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 2: months ago that his health had taken a turn for

1597
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: the worse. He passed away, But they Phil Pecko, that

1598
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: place was a ghost town just a few years ago,

1599
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 2: and now they sell out every game. So he proved

1600
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 2: in a so called small market, if you do it

1601
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 2: right as he did, you can be highly successful. There's

1602
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: no such thing as a small market. They're just small spenders.

1603
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 11: Absolutely, and he.

1604
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 2: Will be missed, no question. The Sidler family obviously will

1605
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: retain and I'm sure they'll follow in his footsteps.

1606
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 3: But he was a wonderful man, wonderful man.

1607
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 11: And I don't know if you saw this, Steve, But

1608
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 11: so at the owners meeting, I guess they were, you know,

1609
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 11: talking about the A's in Vegas and all that, you

1610
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 11: know kind of stuff. But there was actually a group

1611
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 11: of seven to eight owners who were discussing voting no

1612
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 11: till the leader of that group suddenly passed away on Tuesday.

1613
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 11: Chure about that, No, I did not. Yeah, that was

1614
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 11: according to uh. I believe it was locked on A's

1615
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:10,680
Speaker 11: who reported that.

1616
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it's just sad that you know.

1617
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and this is this is the problem

1618
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 2: for so many sports fans out there. You have a

1619
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 2: team that you love, right and if you don't have

1620
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 2: the right owner in place, if you don't have all

1621
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 2: you would hope that the owner of the team that

1622
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 2: you live and die with feels the same way about

1623
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: their team. And unfortunately, I won't say a majority, but

1624
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:38,759
Speaker 2: pretty close to a majority, don't. It's a business and

1625
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 2: they're in it to make money. Yeah, so whether that's

1626
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: moving a team, I mean, this goes forever.

1627
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 3: That's all they care about. There's the bottom line.

1628
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you have a guy that cares

1629
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 4: about you and that care is reciprocated, it makes it

1630
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 4: makes you be a little bit more invested in that

1631
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 4: team for sure.

1632
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1633
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 2: So it's a very frustrating. But for Patdre fans, Peter

1634
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: Seidler was godsend, no question about that. I just want

1635
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: to do a quick update here on this college football

1636
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 2: playoff as we have a couple of weeks. So if

1637
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: obviously this devastating injury to Florida State quarterback Jordan Travis

1638
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 2: and by the way, your Louisville Cardinals now will be

1639
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: facing Florida State in the ACC championship game.

1640
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 3: That doesn't help our calls though it doesn't.

1641
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 4: No, No, we wanted Florida State to be undefeated, in

1642
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 4: full strength and number four obviously inhabitants to beat them

1643
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 4: and then move forward.

1644
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 2: But if you look at it right now, if Georgia

1645
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: runs the table and either Michigan or Ohio State runs

1646
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: the table, you know they're in the playoff. But what

1647
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 2: if we have two one loss teams in the PAC twelve.

1648
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 2: I would imagine if Oregon were to run the table

1649
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: and win the rematch against Washington, they're in for sure,

1650
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: But Florida State would Jordan Travis out?

1651
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 6: Now?

1652
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 3: I mean, it is wide open. It's going to be

1653
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: wide open.

1654
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 4: That last spot's going to be interesting because you know,

1655
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 4: will a two the two lost SEC team get in there?

1656
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 2: I mean, and if Alabama is competitive, then a loss

1657
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 2: to Georgia exactly, that could be a case. All right,

1658
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 2: there's a lot more college football coming up.

1659
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 3: What's gonna happen? Oregon's taking a knockoff washing and keep

1660
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 3: it right here. This is Fox Sports Radio