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Speaker 3: The off season radio home of the Indianapolis Colts, airing

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Speaker 3: Friday evenings all throughout the off season. Ninety three five,

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Speaker 3: one of seventy five the Fan. I'm Casey Valier joined

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Speaker 3: by Matt Taylor, and we've got a busy show for

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Speaker 3: you tonight, Matt. The NFL calendar, we talk about it

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Speaker 3: never sleeps. But the Super Bowl has passed us and

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. And you know, one thing I want to just

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Speaker 4: So it's you know, it never really stops.

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Speaker 5: think he's got sized, quickness, and length all in.

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Speaker 4: Space, and he's got some pretty quick hands.

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Speaker 5: I just think that technically, the you know, the pad

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Speaker 5: level and the play strength needs to work and needs

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Speaker 5: to improve a little bit. And then Joshua Joseph said

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Speaker 5: of Tennessee is another guy that I watched where he

443
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Speaker 5: was a one year starter. He's a contributor before that,

444
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Speaker 5: but very much a speed rusher. A little bit undersize,

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Speaker 5: six three two forty, but he's quick off the ball,

446
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Speaker 5: he's explosive. He he rushes the passer with a red

447
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Speaker 5: hot motor. So even if he's not the biggest guy,

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Speaker 5: he's still making up for it with his efforts.

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of good value that I'd really.

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Speaker 5: Like, like just at the end of that top fifty.

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Speaker 5: So if any of those guys are available with that

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Speaker 5: forty seventh pick, then those are all players that I

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Speaker 5: look at, at least that rusher position.

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Speaker 2: We're talking draft and upcoming combine Jacob and Fonte is

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Speaker 2: our guest NFL draft analysts for Pro Football Network, and

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Speaker 2: staying along with defensive end, I mean, it seems like

457
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Speaker 2: every year Jacob half of the NFL needs defensive end

458
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Speaker 2: help at the top of their draft needs, if you will.

459
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Speaker 2: So that's a position from college that kind of takes

460
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Speaker 2: a while to translate to the NFL in terms of

461
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Speaker 2: big production. So my question is, you know, in modern football,

462
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Speaker 2: how much of a better play is it for a

463
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Speaker 2: team to overspend if you will, for proven production and

464
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Speaker 2: free agency Sunday production versus hoping for the best from

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Speaker 2: a high potential prospect even in the first round from

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Speaker 2: the recent past.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So to that, I honestly I look to the

468
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Speaker 5: last two Super Bowl winners. Really, I look at the

469
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Speaker 5: Seahawks and the Eagles what they've been able to do

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Speaker 5: along the defensive line, and that's you know, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of spending there, both in terms of, uh the

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Speaker 5: financial aspect and the draft. So like the cinc off

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Speaker 5: the edge, but they also drafted Boye Mafe, they drafted

474
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Speaker 5: Derek Hall, guys like that. So it's a pretty you know,

475
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Speaker 5: deep rotation to that point. And then with the Eagles, Uh,

476
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Speaker 5: they had Josh Sweat, they had you know, Brandon Graham,

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Speaker 5: they had Jlex Haunt. You know, it's a pretty deep

478
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Speaker 5: group of edge rushers, you know, guys producing off the

479
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Speaker 5: edge there. Bryce Huff they signed it's I think it's

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Speaker 5: a pretty good mix of being of meeting both and

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Speaker 5: I think that you know, seeing those guys success. I mean,

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Speaker 5: obviously there's other roster building aspects that go into play

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Speaker 5: too at those other positions, but I think you need

484
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Speaker 5: that mix of proven veteran talent off the edge and

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Speaker 5: you need to draft, you know, relatively high along the

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Speaker 5: defensive line, both at edge and the defensive tackle.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's possibly what the Colts are going for, right,

489
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Speaker 2: I mean, just potentially, you know, trying to upgrade that position,

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Speaker 2: to take the defense to the next level. Maybe bring

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Speaker 2: in a free agent pass rusher that can help this

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Speaker 2: Colt's pass rush get over the top. But at the

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Speaker 2: same time, Jacob, let's see where Laya tu Latu is.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what kind of a big jump he can make.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what big of a jump JT to amoloaw

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Speaker 2: can make, so that they can, as you just said,

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Speaker 2: find that good balance and good mix of veteran you know,

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Speaker 2: proven leadership and production, but up and coming talent too

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Speaker 2: that supplements that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, I you know, I like both of those

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Speaker 4: guys coming out of the draft.

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Speaker 5: I like Tui moloaw I like lot to a good amount,

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Speaker 5: and I think there's a good amount of potential there

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Speaker 5: with both those guys. I'd also love, you know, from

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Speaker 5: an outsider's perspective, to see them sign somebody in free agency.

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Speaker 5: I know they've got, uh, you know, Daniel Jones to resign.

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Speaker 5: I've got some other free agents they got to figure

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Speaker 5: out if they want to you know, keep and make

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Speaker 5: some moves there too. But I'm you know, I'm particularly

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Speaker 5: interested in seeing how they attack that defensive line because,

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Speaker 5: like you said, they have young talent there, but it's

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Speaker 5: really a matter of combining that with proven veterans. And

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Speaker 5: I know that, you know, defensive tackle, you've got Toforest Buckner,

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Speaker 5: You've got Grover Stewart, two solid players.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're both over thirty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's something you know along the interior too.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if they make some sort of

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Speaker 4: move there in the draft.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it really should be a matter of getting

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Speaker 5: a deep enough rotation that you can give guys like

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Speaker 5: thirty to forty percent of snaps a game, but they're

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Speaker 5: fresh for that, as opposed to only having two guys

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Speaker 5: that you can rely on and then the depth that

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Speaker 5: you have isn't necessarily a strong.

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Speaker 3: Now, Jacob. One final thing defensively, I want to talk

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Speaker 3: about cold specific an area that they have drafted very

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Speaker 3: very well as a linebacker. They have done that throughout

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Speaker 3: Chris Ballard's tenure, and he mentioned at the end of

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Speaker 3: the year they want to get younger and faster on defense.

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Speaker 3: In one of those areas that they maybe can do

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Speaker 3: that is at linebacker. Now, maybe not a second or

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Speaker 3: a third round pick at linebacker, but how deep is

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Speaker 3: this linebacker crew? And with the way that this team

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Speaker 3: has kind of identified linebackers, are there guys maybe you know,

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Speaker 3: late day two, early day three that can step in

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Speaker 3: and be contributors early.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'll kind of stick to like the speedy

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Speaker 5: archetype for the linebacker position. So I'd say Jacob Rodriguez

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Speaker 5: at Texas Tech is somebody in round three, round four

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Speaker 5: that would really fit that bill. Uh. He was incredibly

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Speaker 5: productive at Texas Tech this past year. He's a smart player,

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Speaker 5: really fights hard in in pursuit getting to the ball.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know, got a tendency to be an ankle bier

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Speaker 5: as a tackle tackler a little bit, but he's got

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Speaker 5: great instincts in coverage. You can make plays on the

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Speaker 5: ball there. Uh, and then he's just gonna fly to

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Speaker 5: the ball no matter what, you know, regardless of his

549
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Speaker 5: own safety. You know another player that I like in

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Speaker 5: that range, Kyle Lewis out of Pittsburgh, one of the

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Speaker 5: best coverage linebackers in this class. Is a very good athlete,

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Speaker 5: explosive coming out of his breaks, good sideline to sideline range.

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Speaker 4: Struggles a little.

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Speaker 5: Bit with taking block's head on, so definitely more of

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Speaker 5: like a will linebacker who's going to thrive the more

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Speaker 5: space he has to work with. But even with that,

557
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Speaker 5: you know, the the okay physicality in the small frame.

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Speaker 5: He moves really well, he covers really well, and he

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Speaker 5: plays really hard. And then one more guy I think

560
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Speaker 5: who kind of fit in that bill is Aiden Fisher

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Speaker 5: on Indiana. So yeah, Jacob, I need you guys are

562
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Speaker 5: like that one where he's another dude he just you know,

563
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Speaker 5: he plays incredibly hard. He's a quick processor in between

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Speaker 5: the tackles. Again, not the biggest dude out there, but

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Speaker 5: he's explosive. He plays the high motor. Once he diagnoses

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Speaker 5: what the you know, the specific run concepts where the

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Speaker 5: running back's going to go where.

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Speaker 2: The guy's just everywhere. I mean, he's like there's like

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Speaker 2: there's like four of them out there.

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Speaker 5: It seems like, Yeah, So he's a guy where I

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Speaker 5: don't think he's gonna be drafted incredibly high.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll be an early Day three pick.

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Speaker 5: But he's someone I could totally see carving out just

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Speaker 5: a solid NFL career for himself. Uh, you know, maybe

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Speaker 5: starting as a good special teamer, but I could I

576
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Speaker 5: think he could be a solid starter in a league

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Speaker 5: for some time.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jacob, last one from me, and I want

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Speaker 2: to double back to the Combine next week. I mean,

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Speaker 2: every year you're reading more and more about prospects who

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Speaker 2: aren't gonna throw at the Combine or work out at

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Speaker 2: the Combine and wait until they're pro days. And now

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Speaker 2: you're also seeing more and more teams not even send

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Speaker 2: coaches and gms and their personnel stafs to the Combine anymore.

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Speaker 2: So where do you still see the most value to

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Speaker 2: the combine when it comes to draft preparation for both

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Speaker 2: players and then also teams in the evaluation.

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Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I think a lot of it cut

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Speaker 5: a lot of the value comes off the field in

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Speaker 5: terms of, you know, teams getting access to medicals on

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Speaker 5: specific players, especially if they had a season ending injury

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Speaker 5: or something like that, whether it's this year or a

593
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Speaker 5: year's past. You get to have a better understanding of,

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Speaker 5: all right, what's the recovery timeline look like on this

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Speaker 5: is their potential lasting damage. And having the ability for

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Speaker 5: your team doctors to take a look at that I

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Speaker 5: think makes the world a difference. And also the interviews too,

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Speaker 5: You get a good understanding of is this player a

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Speaker 5: good fit for the culture we're trying to set up.

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Speaker 4: You get a good.

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Speaker 5: Understanding of their you know, their football acumen. I mean,

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Speaker 5: obviously you're going in there, the teams are going to

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Speaker 5: be grilling you about, you know, different questions relative to

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Speaker 5: your respective position, and then just get an understanding of

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Speaker 5: like who you are as a competitor, what makes you tick,

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Speaker 5: things like that to see if you'd be a good

607
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Speaker 5: fit for the vision that they're trying to set up.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the onfield drills are fantastic. I know

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Speaker 5: that's that's the most fun as a spectator to watch,

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Speaker 5: for sure, But I think if you're an evaluator, I

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Speaker 5: think there's so much value in being you know, having

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Speaker 5: your feet on the ground and you know, getting access

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Speaker 5: to the medicals, having access to the interviews and stuff

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Speaker 5: like that.

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Speaker 4: I think that really makes a lot of difference.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely well. It all takes place next week with the

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Speaker 3: NFL Scouting Combine taking over the landscape of the NFL

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Speaker 3: draft analysts for Pro Football Network. Jacob, thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for the time. Really look forward to watching your

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Speaker 4: Absolutely thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, I mean he's not even under contract, right,

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Speaker 2: So there's that big hang up as we speak right

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Speaker 2: now here in mid February. But again, I think both

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Speaker 2: parties want that to happen. So assuming Jones comes back

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Speaker 2: for next season, the big question after that is Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 2: Where's he at with his eye injury. Like we talked

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Speaker 2: about in segment one, we heard him say at the

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Speaker 2: end of the season that he was still having trouble

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Speaker 2: seeing the ball a little bit in the shotgun formation

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Speaker 2: on snaps that are coming back to him. He's got

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Speaker 2: one season remaining on his rookie contract. The Colts still

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Speaker 2: have a decision to make on his fifth year option

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Speaker 2: by May first, so you have that component of it.

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Speaker 2: He only played in five snaps last year in the

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Speaker 2: regular season, and he's only started fifteen games in three years.

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Speaker 2: And then there's Riley Leonard. I think what Riley Leonard

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Speaker 2: showed at the end of the season and his one

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Speaker 2: start against the Houston Texans, I think that went better

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Speaker 2: than a lot of people expected. That's a long winded

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Speaker 2: way of saying this is a long way from being

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Speaker 2: hashed out on the depth chart, and hopefully we'll get

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Speaker 2: more clarity, especially on Anthony Richardson's situation next week when

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Speaker 2: Shane Stiken talks to the media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's one of the things that I think

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Speaker 3: we need to discuss next week at the combine where

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Speaker 3: we're talking to, you know, some of these draft experts,

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Speaker 3: is what is the depth at quarterback? Because if it

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Speaker 3: is something where you're looking at Daniel Jones and Riley Leonard,

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Speaker 3: you know, you might need to address that later in

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Speaker 3: the draft. Yeah, you know, dah, So that is gonna

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Speaker 3: be one question that I'm going to bring up a

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Speaker 3: couple different times to some of these guys, just to

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Speaker 3: get feelers out there, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: it's never you can never have too many quarterbacks. That's

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Speaker 3: gonna be an interesting topic as we continue to move

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Speaker 3: closer to the twenty twenty six season. Visit the forum

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Speaker 3: credit Union fan forum section of Colts dot com, where

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Speaker 3: Before we close out here, it's time for Tailor's Tidbits.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into the nitty gritty.

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Speaker 4: I never knew that.

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Speaker 1: Grab a seed and take notes. You sure, Clark say

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Speaker 1: it's time for Taylor's tidbits.

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Speaker 2: All right, Not a lot of time for tidbits tonight, Casey,

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Speaker 2: I know we're kind of up against it a little bit,

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Speaker 2: So I'll talk to you about the Combine next week.

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Speaker 2: We know about the Combine coming into town for the

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Speaker 2: thirty ninth straight year. How about the Indiana Hoosiers. They

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Speaker 2: are going to be represented with nine players at the

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Speaker 2: Combine next week. That is a program record, but it's

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Speaker 2: also the fewest players from a national championship team at

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Speaker 2: the Combine since twenty and seventeen relms in that year,

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Speaker 2: only since seven. So again, that just goes to show

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Speaker 2: you that the Indiana got it done with, you know,

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Speaker 2: those non four and five star players. And speaking of

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Speaker 2: the Combine speed kills, since two thousand and two twenty three,

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Speaker 2: twenty two players at the NFL Combine have run a

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Speaker 2: sub four to three a forty yard dash.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Last year at the Combine, the average forty yard dash

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Speaker 2: time among all participants everybody, offensive lineman, wide, receivers, kickers, everybody.

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Speaker 2: The average forty yard dash time at the Combine last

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Speaker 2: year was four point six seconds. All right, those big

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Speaker 2: guys can move and groove now, all right, that was

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Speaker 2: the fastest fastest forty yard dash event at the Combine

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Speaker 2: since two thousand and three. Speed Kills. That's why Casey,

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Speaker 2: we do it every year. You know, in training camp

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Speaker 2: or in the preseason, you talked to a lot of

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Speaker 2: these rookies and you ask them, Hey, what's the biggest

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Speaker 2: acclimation to the NFL for you? What do they often say?

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Speaker 3: Speedpeed?

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Speaker 2: The speed of the game. Everybody up here is bigger, faster, stronger.

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Speaker 2: But faster makes you overthink. It speeds up your processing time,

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Speaker 2: and it forces you into mistakes as you get acclimated

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Speaker 2: to the new speed of football.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that is a good tidbit right there before six

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Speaker 3: and you're ready for this, ready for this little caveat

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Speaker 3: you want to hear more of Taylor's tidbits? Join us

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Speaker 3: at O'Reilly's you like that?

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Speaker 2: I'm going over and over.

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Speaker 3: We'll be down in Speedway tonight for more of Indiana

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Speaker 3: Sports trivia. Looking forward to that. But that's all the

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Speaker 3: time we have for tonight. Up next, Pacers in the

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Speaker 3: Nation's Capital against the Wizards. Just like last night, here's

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Speaker 3: round two with Mark Boyle on at ninety five.

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Speaker 4: The fans