Speaker 1: What's up And welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealess Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loaw glasses Malone. No, no, it's not the mic, right.
Speaker 1: What it is is so the whole point is your interface.
Speaker 1: Don't do nothing but convert your microphone too like a
Speaker 1: language that your computer can read. That's all your interface does.
Speaker 1: It's not the microphone. It's really just the interface, right.
Speaker 2: So the interface doesn't need a need a device to
Speaker 2: plug into like, so it works like mic interface computer.
Speaker 2: It can just be computer interface computer, well.
Speaker 1: Like minees right, like at home, Like right now, I'm
Speaker 1: using the zoom Age six and it's an interface but
Speaker 1: has MIC inputs on it. So in theory, I don't
Speaker 1: need nothing. I could plug I could put a flash
Speaker 1: drive inside of it, right, and then plug mics into
Speaker 1: it and just do my podcast with just this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: two mics and a and a flash drive.
Speaker 2: But but he needs a mic, like he can't just
Speaker 2: have an interface sitting by itself, right, No.
Speaker 1: He got a mic. His mic is plugged into his interface,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But what happens is when
Speaker 1: he changes audio, when he puts his I you know
Speaker 1: what I mean from stream Yard onto his interface. That
Speaker 1: automatically disposal the fact that his the fact Streamyard is
Speaker 1: picking up his interface says a lot. So it's really
Speaker 1: something simple between a microphone and the interface.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he said he might need a podcast mic,
Speaker 2: I thought he didn't have a mic. He just had
Speaker 2: a computer and an interface.
Speaker 3: Now you're my microphone over here, gotcha?
Speaker 1: When you were just talking, was you talking into your microphone?
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking into the computer mic.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When you were just checking
Speaker 1: your interface? Now, because I said, was you snapping in
Speaker 1: front of it?
Speaker 3: Nope? Nope.
Speaker 1: So then yeah, it could be working, but you just
Speaker 1: try one more time, like, but bring your mic to
Speaker 1: you and see if that helps, because you gotta talk
Speaker 1: to the microphone. Oh see if that helped, because if
Speaker 1: very if you if stream Yard cousins picking up your interface,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, then at that point it's
Speaker 1: really the conversation between your microphone and your interface. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that should really worked.
Speaker 2: Is there something more like the channel the interfaces on
Speaker 2: it might not be matching the input where the MIC's
Speaker 2: plugged into.
Speaker 1: It could be that it could be that it could
Speaker 1: be that I don't really know. But what I do
Speaker 1: is because I'm gonna just come over there, Joey one
Speaker 1: like in the next like six days and really just
Speaker 1: make it to where you can actually where you could
Speaker 1: actually just do this from here now, because you could
Speaker 1: do way like I think this is the future for
Speaker 1: any person looking to be in any level of entertainment.
Speaker 1: You're having setups at home that you could use and
Speaker 1: do all your interviews.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you got it. Yeah today, Yeah, I can't
Speaker 3: be out there.
Speaker 1: I think people finna get rid of brick and mortars altogether.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying right now, I
Speaker 1: got I got Atlanta coming up right December, in December,
Speaker 1: and I'm stopping at all these places with radio, podcasts,
Speaker 1: TV shows, video shows, you know, maybe some meetings. But
Speaker 1: thinking about five years that should have been done. I
Speaker 1: think technology or catch up, and you'll be able to
Speaker 1: have visuals so fucking crisp on your computer and on
Speaker 1: your phone that people won't just invest in productions like
Speaker 1: that for this type of medium. Yeah, I mean, to
Speaker 1: deliver this type of content.
Speaker 3: Don't think that will take away from it though, I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just what it is. At this point,
Speaker 3: it's just evolving.
Speaker 2: If you don't know.
Speaker 1: About We use the term evolution because evolution kind of
Speaker 1: signifies evolution signifies a necessary need to survive, like a
Speaker 1: change that is made in regards to survive. I think
Speaker 1: convenience because becomes the uh right it, convenience becomes Convenience
Speaker 1: is also the killer of quality, oh for sure. So
Speaker 1: but again I think as the world that just as
Speaker 1: a standard becomes lower quality, it just won't matter like that.
Speaker 1: It just won't matter like that. So but I know
Speaker 1: that just like any feeling, because that the centerpiece of
Speaker 1: you know, even cinematography to me is audi that's where
Speaker 1: you get the professional quality because cinematography itself, the way
Speaker 1: films look be all different. You can look at Traffic,
Speaker 1: the movie Traffic, or look at certain films they'll have
Speaker 1: all kind of looks and ideas the way you've seen them.
Speaker 1: But the most professional films, the sound is what's really
Speaker 1: the most professional part. I mean, there's a level of
Speaker 1: editing that happens, but even in that's more style. Sound
Speaker 1: is probably the one thing I don't think you could
Speaker 1: really fuck with, you know what I mean, motherfuckers need
Speaker 1: to hear some shit correctly.
Speaker 2: And I think honestly, like the way that you'll be
Speaker 2: able to digitally store and observe sound through I mean
Speaker 2: it is just the case now. I mean, like if
Speaker 2: you were a crack open the code on, like what's
Speaker 2: really going on with the audio that's gonna get streamlined
Speaker 2: and edited and really really perfected quite efficiently with AI stuff.
Speaker 2: The ai'll be able to pick up like what's background
Speaker 2: versus what's for a ground, what's static first? Not like
Speaker 2: and it'll just clean all that right out.
Speaker 1: For sure, but but yeah, yeah, but even.
Speaker 2: Now it'll take echoes just right on out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got that now. Like if you look at
Speaker 1: some of the options and stream yards, because they have
Speaker 1: echo cancelation, they got background cancelation, they got a grip
Speaker 1: of dope. Ass shit, it ain't no plump you. I mean,
Speaker 1: so shut out the stream yard. Cuse But because this
Speaker 1: is a real podcast, I don't really do a visual
Speaker 1: component for the most part till we get, you know better,
Speaker 1: Like we've been talking about doing more stuff visual. We
Speaker 1: just got to figure it out the right way to
Speaker 1: where to me is as creative as the ship were
Speaker 1: talking about, Like we can't have this kind of lame standard.
Speaker 1: Look you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Can I set my stuff out on the balcony and
Speaker 2: and and have a cigar with this?
Speaker 1: It has to be like that. Yeah, I think we
Speaker 1: think that.
Speaker 2: Would be excellent. I would be doing podcasts all day life.
Speaker 1: But what's crazy is right, is like we're working on
Speaker 1: a film, right, so counsel these nothing now that it's
Speaker 1: like and we sixty days in, like we're going into
Speaker 1: like we're in the second quarter of the marketing level
Speaker 1: right up the whole life of it, as far as
Speaker 1: the marketing from our perspective as a label. And we're
Speaker 1: working on this film called fed Up right me and
Speaker 1: still been writing on it like.
Speaker 2: Every white character in the in the feature, like I
Speaker 2: just keep popping up in new outfits throughout.
Speaker 1: That would be good, but no, we was working on it.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because like we can shoot the dead
Speaker 1: movie on our phone, and we was talking about like
Speaker 1: we could literally get two fucking iPhones with a steady
Speaker 1: cam and a couple jims and a couple zooms and
Speaker 1: shoot the film. But the problem is, like I gotta
Speaker 1: talk to Sega because like, to me, that's the catch.
Speaker 1: You gotta have the right sound guy, and that's gonna
Speaker 1: determine if your film comes across profession.
Speaker 2: It's interesting because was Redd was gonna make a cell phone.
Speaker 3: They did.
Speaker 2: They did make a cell phone, but they outsourced the camera,
Speaker 2: so everybody was like, well, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: So like, okay, okay, okay, you caught us. We're gonna
Speaker 2: make a new one with our own fully vertically integrated
Speaker 2: camera in the phone. And right before it's supposed to
Speaker 2: like finally be done, they switched CEOs and he canceled
Speaker 2: the whole project.
Speaker 1: He was more than stupid ass ship stupid ass.
Speaker 2: Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just I just think. I mean,
Speaker 1: I fucked with the whole cameras and fine things. I
Speaker 1: just don't believe it's the smartest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Probably not as far as the chasing eyes from people
Speaker 1: got to stop chasing eyePhone. People got to stop chasing
Speaker 1: But a right, but side note, cud, did you see
Speaker 1: the ship?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: You see t I got that new apartment show that
Speaker 1: you see that?
Speaker 3: Is it a show or a movie?
Speaker 1: It's like a movie. I think it is.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's a movie called The Apartments. Yeah, I haven't
Speaker 3: watched it yet. It looked like the previews kind of
Speaker 3: made me feel like it was probably funny.
Speaker 1: It gotta be good. I mean, I really didn't get
Speaker 1: into ATL like that. I didn't get to ATL like that.
Speaker 1: I really didn't watch that. Any time I look at it,
Speaker 1: it was kind of corny.
Speaker 2: It was that well, it was interesting.
Speaker 3: I'm cet I skating that shit is crazy?
Speaker 1: Can you skate? I mean all the land of niggas, I'm.
Speaker 3: I'm like, is this nigga grown?
Speaker 1: Or is he a kid?
Speaker 2: All the other actors that were corny in it, like
Speaker 2: all of his friends were corny as shit.
Speaker 1: I didn't every time I try to sit down and
Speaker 1: watch it, it just be corny as fuck because I
Speaker 1: cannot fuck with a lot of people watched it and
Speaker 1: they love anything.
Speaker 2: Oh I think people, I was the best actor of
Speaker 2: the film. Are you fucking kidding me? You kidding me?
Speaker 2: Have pro actors?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: As to the actors looked like fucking idiots other than
Speaker 2: that girl's dad, who was an actual actor who did
Speaker 2: a good job.
Speaker 1: All the dress always mean yeah, yeah, I mean I like.
Speaker 2: That mean mean cells with me, no syllis jail.
Speaker 1: All timing with my brother Peter Pete. Whatever got my
Speaker 1: man Joey Westside from the La Giants, ironically we got you.
Speaker 1: I always thought this would be a good conversation because
Speaker 1: me and Pete don't got no kids.
Speaker 2: This is true.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know about t I and this little
Speaker 4: Well that's the thing about the thing about is we
Speaker 4: don't never talk specifically about one thing because we don't
Speaker 4: like we don't this ain't the uh, this ain't the view.
Speaker 1: We don't talk everything. So we have to wrap a
Speaker 1: lot of the ideas we want to talk about into
Speaker 1: greater conversations, like about period in general. Right, And we
Speaker 1: just happened to start with King and TV. They just
Speaker 1: they kind of start where we're going into conversation. But
Speaker 1: that's not really what this podcast about. It's about just
Speaker 1: parenting in general. And I think it's dope that me
Speaker 1: and Pete got pure takes on parenting, like we have,
Speaker 1: honest and logical takes because there's no emotion. But obviously
Speaker 1: having a kid makes you feel different about parenting for sure,
Speaker 1: So we can ask your opinion to kids you do yeah,
Speaker 1: because you you really start selling out all that, man,
Speaker 1: you start doing shit that's probably you'll think that's good
Speaker 1: for you, and then but I feel like I should
Speaker 1: do this like Christmas gifts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're all were you like at a point like
Speaker 2: coming up where you were like, man, I don't never
Speaker 2: have much. By the time he was six, it was just.
Speaker 3: Right there, just totally well, I got a daughter, so okay,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know, but I'm pretty sure. I mean, I
Speaker 3: watched my brother say certain ship that he would never do,
Speaker 3: and he you know, he can look like a liar
Speaker 3: at this point, but he just didn't know. He just
Speaker 3: didn't know no better. Yeah, he thought he thought he
Speaker 3: would do things or not do things because he was
Speaker 3: speaking from a place of ignorance, you know about that.
Speaker 3: So for you know, when you're young and you rebellio,
Speaker 3: see your dad or your your uncles or your OG's
Speaker 3: be said things like this is gonna happen, This's gonnappen
Speaker 3: because they didn't already experience it and seeing it. But
Speaker 3: she'd be like, I ain't gonna be like that, Like
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it this way. It's like you don't
Speaker 3: know what you're gonna do until you live in it.
Speaker 3: Then you start living it. It's like damn and that
Speaker 3: was what I'm gonna do with. Yeah, who did on
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about? He was just saying, like, was
Speaker 3: I ever? Was I ever the person that was like
Speaker 3: I never do this with my son or in front
Speaker 3: of my son or whatever. But I don't have a son.
Speaker 3: But I watched my brother say things to my pops
Speaker 3: and like, upples, you know what I'm saying, like I
Speaker 3: never do that. I never do that, And it's like
Speaker 3: you doing what you said you would never do, my nigga,
Speaker 3: But he didn't know no better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but y'all, y'all got a river. Also, like y'all
Speaker 1: were parents. Hella young, I mean not crazy young, you know,
Speaker 1: not not project young. I'm like, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That is pretty young to have a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so a lot of things that you know, like your
Speaker 1: kids to some degree. I guess if you had a
Speaker 1: kid at eighteen nineteen twenty, your kids was raised with you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I know that sounds crazy
Speaker 1: because like I'll be thinking about twenty today, Like I
Speaker 1: look at kids twenty today and I'd be like, they
Speaker 1: act like little kids at twenty today. But then I
Speaker 1: think kids that was twenty when I was twenty.
Speaker 3: It seemed to have been growner and more dope.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But nigga, let's go back to the sixties. Like,
Speaker 1: if you was twenty in the sixties, you probably had
Speaker 1: already worked for five years, you built up some pension,
Speaker 1: you had, life is sort. You probably was married, You
Speaker 1: was making on the housing on your house.
Speaker 3: Yummy goldates and shit.
Speaker 1: Yesay, you was receiving already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd already been to Warren back seeing the world.
Speaker 1: That's why I was saying. I was tripping off this
Speaker 1: conversation we was having yesterday on the Clubhouse with the
Speaker 1: Homie Trap Brash Show. Shout out to Trap in the
Speaker 1: whole ad HD room. But it was funny to me
Speaker 1: because we were talking about they were talking about Luke,
Speaker 1: and they were talking about Gloria Valez. Right, wasn't that Velez?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know, Joey, people hate when I talk about this, right,
Speaker 1: But like, I can't help but be logical in approach,
Speaker 1: and it's people be like, well, that's because you're not
Speaker 1: a parent. It's like, look, I'm not saying something is
Speaker 1: right or wrong. I'm just saying right. Just so, the
Speaker 1: whole thing with Luke and Gloria a les Is. Gloria
Speaker 1: is coming out now, Miyu. She had a baby with
Speaker 1: Aaron Albohens. She was like seventeen or eighteen or something.
Speaker 2: And you're talking like Luke, like uncle Luke, who knew.
Speaker 1: She just said, oh, Luke was grooming her at sixteen,
Speaker 1: and so I seen Luke respond to that. He was like,
Speaker 1: I just figured out what grooming was, and everybody he
Speaker 1: knew what it was. I was thinking, like man, Nigga
Speaker 1: from Florida, that nigga, right, he probably did not know
Speaker 1: groomy man.
Speaker 2: I was at the bar with him at she five,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to go say what's up to him?
Speaker 2: But I didn't want to be that like corny ass
Speaker 2: dude to go by the nigguy.
Speaker 1: Lucas a card and less.
Speaker 3: So I don't know who he is.
Speaker 1: I know who you, so Luke, so Lucas mad. But
Speaker 1: it was funny because I was having a room and
Speaker 1: you know, obviously today it's this real stanch moral positioning
Speaker 1: right about you know how they feel about me and
Speaker 1: dealing with underage minors, and I'm saying to them, well,
Speaker 1: you know, in the United States, like thirty plus states,
Speaker 1: the legal age of consented sixteen. They're like, class, come
Speaker 1: on with all that smart shit, and I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you have to care about because you're right, you don't understand.
Speaker 1: Like this has always been my conversation, bro, morality only
Speaker 1: comes from religion, underworld or laws. That creates morality for
Speaker 1: most people, except a couple intelligent people who come up
Speaker 1: with their own morality. But for the sheet the herd
Speaker 1: itself religion, street life, or laws. So I was trying
Speaker 1: to tell them, I'm like, well, in the nineties, the
Speaker 1: legal age of consent in Florida and some of those
Speaker 1: southern states was like thirteen and fourteen.
Speaker 3: That shits out.
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy because only because we in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds crazy in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Normally growing up, I heard an interesting observation by this
Speaker 2: guy who was talking about well, anyway, let's cut to
Speaker 2: the chase. In previous generations, like parents now are very
Speaker 2: very very risk averse with how they let their kids
Speaker 2: like go around town and all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, particularly like in the suburbs
Speaker 2: and stuff. Whereas in previous generation we had six, seven,
Speaker 2: eight kids. You lose one, eh, sucks, but eh, you
Speaker 2: lose you got one kid and you lose one, that's
Speaker 2: a bigger l man.
Speaker 3: You know what you know what's crazy is uh, I
Speaker 3: find myself being I remember growing up in you know,
Speaker 3: moms at work, pops doing what he's doing. He at work,
Speaker 3: you know, not there sometimes whenever you but they never
Speaker 3: they never worried about us. Yeah, they we stayed at home.
Speaker 3: That's what it was like. She didn't worry.
Speaker 1: You know, you just you was staying on your ass,
Speaker 1: stayed outside. You been not bringing up with fucking ass
Speaker 1: in here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like when she at work,
Speaker 3: she like, we we at When I'm saying home, I
Speaker 3: mean the outside in the house, she ain't calling and
Speaker 3: check all this and it's like I'm at work. My
Speaker 3: kids is straight. But we also grew up in a
Speaker 3: neighborhood where your where your homies was like your family.
Speaker 3: So they know the neighbors. We know the neighbors. Everybody
Speaker 3: know each other. So they didn't worry about that. My
Speaker 3: dad didn't worry about that. Man. I be man, My
Speaker 3: daughter go to her friend house and I'm calling, texting,
Speaker 3: I'm checking her location, all me all these things that
Speaker 3: they gave us to make sure they're safe or whatever
Speaker 3: that you could use to make yourself feel like they safe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'd be I'd be worried, man, I just
Speaker 5: be over worried, Like damn, I can't even allow her
Speaker 5: to just you know, I don't want her to do
Speaker 5: not dumb, but she makes a mistake or be responsible.
Speaker 3: So I can trust it. I'm just own it. Yeah. Wait,
Speaker 3: did you get there yet? All right? For shore, All right,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call you in a minute. And my mom
Speaker 3: and dad to do none of that shit.
Speaker 1: Parents today is we scaredy hella, puss a five and
Speaker 1: I don't forgive me for y'all. And I got kid y'all. Y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all trying to like today is worse than we nigga
Speaker 1: when we grew up. It was way worse. It was way,
Speaker 1: way worse. Like everything about our childhood was really dangerous,
Speaker 1: Like you really might get shot in the drive outside,
Speaker 1: you really might get kidnapped by somebody in the van,
Speaker 1: like these were normal things that was happening, and that
Speaker 1: shit never Like guess what if you went outside at
Speaker 1: the nine o'clock in the morning, not bring your back,
Speaker 1: had your ass backing here before the street guys come on,
Speaker 1: But nigga, don't be in and about this mother fucker.
Speaker 1: Stay outside.
Speaker 3: You're in and out the house. Get your ass whoop me.
Speaker 3: That's crazy way.
Speaker 1: Come back and over here. I wish you wanted to
Speaker 1: be laying on the couch all day talking about Oh
Speaker 1: you on the phone? First off, he blocking the phone line.
Speaker 1: Part two, why the fuck is you in here?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that's true too. I feel like they're and
Speaker 2: I was kind of thinking about it as we were talking.
Speaker 2: There's an interesting, like almost paradox with parents now. It's like, Hey,
Speaker 2: a lot of parents that I watch, they don't want
Speaker 2: to do any parenting. They want to be the kid's
Speaker 2: best friend. And then on the flip side, they don't
Speaker 2: have any trust to let the kid go be out
Speaker 2: and about or whatever the hell and learn a lesson
Speaker 2: on their own. And I feel like, subconsciously you will
Speaker 2: at saying you, Joe, I'm just saying, like, you know
Speaker 2: a lot of people in general, if you know you're
Speaker 2: doing a shitty job at parenting because all you want
Speaker 2: to do is be your kid's best friend, then you
Speaker 2: don't trust your kid because you don't trust the parenting
Speaker 2: that you did for your kid in real time possability.
Speaker 3: That could be true. I wouldn't not shoot true.
Speaker 2: For a lot of girls I know, or at least
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: Now just to host them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just just to dress them up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's why you look in there and you
Speaker 1: be looking at niggas biyo and women bidio. They be like, like,
Speaker 1: the greatest accomplishment is like mother of todd I'm like,
Speaker 1: How'm gonna turn around to be a serial killer? That's
Speaker 1: just your king in the case. And I don't forgive me. Like, ladies,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about y'all. I'm just saying that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be the crowning achievement of your life. Now. That's not
Speaker 1: to say your kids shouldn't be important or or focused,
Speaker 1: but that shouldn't define your existence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure. For a long
Speaker 2: time that kind of was. At least, if you're going
Speaker 2: to say that the greatest accomplishment is your kids, at
Speaker 2: least your greatest accomplishment needs to be your kid's accomplishment,
Speaker 2: that not just their existence.
Speaker 1: That also, this is the thing, right, It is like
Speaker 1: back in the day, women would be proud to be
Speaker 1: somebody's wife. That was their crowning achievement. It wasn't the kids.
Speaker 1: The family set up was the crowning achievement. Socially, it
Speaker 1: wasn't just the two kids or three kids. Mother of
Speaker 1: four that just don't look attractive, like wife of blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, not mother mother of ford.
Speaker 3: Looked like I see the wife in the bio, you know,
Speaker 3: but a lot of them mad wives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that that would be the greatest ACCOMPLI like
Speaker 1: that used to be women's accomplishment. I mean wife of
Speaker 1: Robert Jr. M. You know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: just changed. But I was looking at the tr shit
Speaker 1: and it was crazy, right because like I'm watching this
Speaker 1: nigga and it looks like he's pushing his mom because
Speaker 1: and he talking about telling his mom he's standing on business.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, like, Cluz, I wish I
Speaker 1: would have used slang in my mom. My mom would
Speaker 1: have knocked my motherfucking head off, Like I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: mom washed up with that. She didn't be like nigga, what.
Speaker 3: She's gonna brn you out and put all your business
Speaker 3: because your mom know anything about you. First off, it
Speaker 3: wasn't no more out there all the little boys shit
Speaker 3: you do around the cramb. She's about to say it
Speaker 3: and let you know how much of a whole ass nigga.
Speaker 1: You Olivia six foot three hundred fans nigga. First off,
Speaker 1: it had been no right hand. First off, before she
Speaker 1: took my phone off the ground to drop me, she'd
Speaker 1: have took the phone like this little bitch ass nigga,
Speaker 1: ya'all to grab cloths up right. And it's funny because
Speaker 1: I saw you on today, cousin on Instagram, Me like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know these niggas better. You know, I stand on
Speaker 1: bidding nigga better stay out of my business. And I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking to myself, like for him to be saying,
Speaker 1: like what happened to where people are just ungrateful about
Speaker 1: their parents.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't know where that. I
Speaker 3: don't know what that come from, man, Like.
Speaker 2: I think it comes from the fact, Like I'll go
Speaker 2: back to it, parents have. There's been a slow linear
Speaker 2: decline in the degree to which parents adequately equip their
Speaker 2: kids with the tools to be upstanding and productive, so
Speaker 2: as they get older, they understand that there's a void
Speaker 2: of skills and tools and ship. So they get rebellious
Speaker 2: because they're arming and they feel like they're ill prepared
Speaker 2: for the world. So what can you do. You can
Speaker 2: just bitch, and then the kids are going to bitch
Speaker 2: at a certain age what they do.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in hitting your kids, Pete, if you
Speaker 1: hide a key?
Speaker 2: I am I allowed to say, Yeah, I don't have
Speaker 2: a problem with that. I think there's there's there's a
Speaker 2: there's a real I think I don't even think it's
Speaker 2: a fin line. I think there's a pretty big gap
Speaker 2: between like disciplining your kid and physically abusing and beating
Speaker 2: the ship out of your kid and turning your kid
Speaker 2: into dysfunction a socially dysfunctional, violent person. Those two things
Speaker 2: in the world apart.
Speaker 1: That's like those are a world apart. It's like, who
Speaker 1: your kid asked the coffee hot? That's not what I'm.
Speaker 2: Talking Yeah, no, come on home because you got rough
Speaker 2: day at work and take it out of your kid.
Speaker 1: In the same shit, how about your kids stole your car?
Speaker 1: Whoop your kid.
Speaker 2: At if your kids stole the car, whoop your kids
Speaker 2: asked you might their kids old enough to you have
Speaker 2: to earn that one. Maybe how old that kid is?
Speaker 2: But a ten year old? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, No depends on how fourteen.
Speaker 2: If you can. I had a kid. Next year, when
Speaker 2: he's fourteen, I'll be fifty five.
Speaker 1: You don't think you been a whooping kid ass at
Speaker 1: fifty five?
Speaker 2: Man, I barely you heard me earlier. I could barely
Speaker 2: drink that PEPSI man, I'm falling apart. I almost got
Speaker 2: I almost got an outsource open and soa hands nowadays
Speaker 2: supposed to open up just trying to whoop ass on
Speaker 2: my chid. I came home.
Speaker 1: Let me, Joey, you the only one that got a
Speaker 1: kid on this mother podcast? And what age would you
Speaker 1: not whoop yah y'all?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Now, y'all fourteen?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: So where what age would you not whoop?
Speaker 3: Yah?
Speaker 1: Y'all? You actually too big for whooping on her?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Now it's now. I don't I ain't whoop y'all y'all
Speaker 3: that many times? You know what I'm saying. I remember
Speaker 3: one time though she like she had said something slick
Speaker 3: out her boud. She was younger though, like basically called
Speaker 3: me like annoying or something. But the way she said.
Speaker 3: It was almost like she didn't even say it though.
Speaker 3: I just like, what was you about to say?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: I think he was about to say? Like, and I
Speaker 3: popped her in the fore as so goddamn all man,
Speaker 3: and I and I felt bad as soon as I
Speaker 3: did it. Damn, I don't I got turned into a man.
Speaker 3: I got melted as soon as I did it. Man,
Speaker 3: but it was reflected mouth mouth was just too much
Speaker 3: of a god. But right now, I can't see myself
Speaker 3: whooping her. Man. I just try to talk to her
Speaker 3: every now I did. I got to get a little loud,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying to let her know I'm
Speaker 3: not playing like I'm serious about what I'm saying. But
Speaker 3: she don't really do anything to where I have to
Speaker 3: go that route. And she dig now like she know
Speaker 3: she a young lady.
Speaker 1: And how old was you the last time you got
Speaker 1: your ass whooped?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, I can't even remember, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm gonna talk about what a belt?
Speaker 1: I mean, you got disciplined?
Speaker 3: Oh? I remember Pop's like probably high school, like ninth
Speaker 3: tenth grade. Pops took off on me in the chest
Speaker 3: a couple of times before you let me out the car.
Speaker 1: What about you, Pete. I'm just I can't imagine. When's
Speaker 1: the last time you got disciplined, Pete? Physically you're paying
Speaker 1: as as.
Speaker 2: A kid, probably six or seven, something like that, Nigga.
Speaker 1: The last time I got disciplined, nigga was my mom.
Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old, out of high school. Nigga,
Speaker 1: she damned to knocked my team. Try to nigga about
Speaker 1: whole marvels bleed for about fifteen minutes when you said
Speaker 1: they the time she called me selling drugs and she
Speaker 1: asked me, she was like, are you hustling? And I'm
Speaker 1: like looking away, like you know, you know how you
Speaker 1: look away you think you get two girls. I'm looking
Speaker 1: away like you know. She's like, are you hustling? I
Speaker 1: know you hear me talking to you. I look I'm like,
Speaker 1: I gotta get my Yeah, the whole damn nigga.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my daughter. She had to Like I would have
Speaker 3: to catch my daughter doing some shit like like tworking
Speaker 3: on TikTok or something, I probably should have to shoot
Speaker 3: out of it. She gotta be tough because because that
Speaker 3: I and probably because I just and it might be selfish,
Speaker 3: like I'm embarrassed, so I'm about to that is abused.
Speaker 1: You can't whoop your You can't, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I could relate to it, but you can't do that.
Speaker 1: But I really think as black people, we got in
Speaker 1: trouble with our parents because we embarrassed. It probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: even worse the ash whild it, but they're so embarrassed.
Speaker 1: He was like, you motherfucker, you got me looking crip.
Speaker 1: That's how my mother to talk to my brother when
Speaker 1: we got in trouble at school. Like he get in
Speaker 1: trouble school, She's like, you got me, come up here.
Speaker 1: I'm embarrasseding shit, Like she gotta walk up and it's
Speaker 1: your kid causing all them. Yeah, my mom nigga eighteen nigga.
Speaker 1: I was already hustling at that point for three years.
Speaker 1: She just didn't know because she got in trouble. She
Speaker 1: came home and I did never say nothing. I have
Speaker 1: my own place, and I was at my dad house chilling.
Speaker 1: I was on the seventh and I was. She she
Speaker 1: pulled up and I was sitting in the car with her,
Speaker 1: and she knew it already. I don't know who told her,
Speaker 1: maybe probably my little brother told her. But this all
Speaker 1: fucking I'm telling them she are you hustling? And I
Speaker 1: was like ignoring her? Right, I was like, man, she said,
Speaker 1: are you hustling? Yeah, I gotta get She busted my
Speaker 1: whole mouth right. Second time she called me us and
Speaker 1: she tried to hit me with her car. I was
Speaker 1: walking away from a cell in the streets like a seal.
Speaker 1: Like somebody came. I thank bought like a twenty dollars
Speaker 1: four or something, and I gave it to him and
Speaker 1: got the money. Was walking back to the curve to
Speaker 1: put the money around the fold the other You know,
Speaker 1: when you're a young hustler, you just put the fold.
Speaker 1: You put out your whole wives put the fold folding
Speaker 1: on the otherwise. When I was walking k not caring
Speaker 1: tens and all I heard, I looked it was her
Speaker 1: car and I had to dive on the curve and
Speaker 1: I died.
Speaker 3: Man, Moss wasn't playing.
Speaker 1: Oh she's sacrifice all this shit, that's what it be.
Speaker 1: They feel like they they put all that work in
Speaker 1: and stop you from doing. Is it what you're doing
Speaker 1: with that sacrifice? This is what you do with my sacrifice.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the worst time you ever let your
Speaker 1: parents down? Like the greatest letdown you had for ham
Speaker 1: for playing hand. You was like you like this this
Speaker 1: was gonna be the monumentist let down where you let
Speaker 1: them down.
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't think. I can't think of a
Speaker 3: situation right now. Ain't nothing popping up, Pete.
Speaker 1: You remember the greatest letdown you add.
Speaker 2: For your parents, like single action, like happened at once?
Speaker 1: Single action?
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably was. It was accumulation of the snowball of
Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff, but it was. It would have
Speaker 2: been like what I didn't uh re enroll to finish
Speaker 2: off of lest few classes for my degree, which I
Speaker 2: still not bothered by that at all, but I think
Speaker 2: at the time my dad was kind of pissed, like quite.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For my mom, it was when I was hustling that day.
Speaker 1: She the way she hit me in my mouth, She
Speaker 1: hit me hard, like she tried to really knock me out,
Speaker 1: like I could tell her. My mom points hard. I
Speaker 1: got said, she was a squabbling like a big lady.
Speaker 1: She was a nice large woman to be punching on
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. You felt that pressure, niggie, and my mom
Speaker 1: was breathing for like fifteen minutes. I jumped out the
Speaker 1: car I was spinning up bluff for about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: For a long time, I thought my.
Speaker 3: Teeth was fucked up.
Speaker 1: She fucked me up good. And my dad. The biggest
Speaker 1: let down from my what's crazy is my dad called me?
Speaker 1: My dad called me? When uh? My dad called me? When?
Speaker 1: Uh the biggest let damn? When did I let my
Speaker 1: dad dawn? You know what? The angriest I ever had him?
Speaker 1: I called him a nickname that his friends used to
Speaker 1: call him that got on his nerves and I didn't know.
Speaker 1: And I chased me around the field next to the house,
Speaker 1: nigga and Wi. He chased me around the field with
Speaker 1: a tire with a spare tire, trying to hit me
Speaker 1: with the tire. This nigga chased me in a field
Speaker 1: with a tire, calling over his one of his best
Speaker 1: friends right, His name was Ellis. Rest in peace, please
Speaker 1: your Ellen. And Ellis and my dad had been friends
Speaker 1: for a long time. Ellis is a little older than
Speaker 1: my dad and they worked on race cars. One day
Speaker 1: we were sitting in the front yard and he was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what your daddy nickname was? And I had
Speaker 1: to be about twelve or thirteen. He said, you know.
Speaker 1: He said, you know what your daddy nick name? He
Speaker 1: said his nickname used to be Skeik, call him Skeep
Speaker 1: And I'm like okay, Like I didn't know.
Speaker 3: I was like, what up?
Speaker 2: Skee?
Speaker 1: That nigga looked and fletched up and start chasing after me.
Speaker 1: I felt like homerssensant at bart because I was digging.
Speaker 1: He ain't picked up but tire off of Noah is
Speaker 1: his mother's all nover. He picked up a tire and
Speaker 1: chased me with the fucking tire.
Speaker 3: Hey, nigga, tires ain't light like that either.
Speaker 1: It's a tired threw up.
Speaker 3: Why did they call that man? It's a backstory to skip.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've never said that name since
Speaker 1: that day. That's how much that ship.
Speaker 2: You don't just walk back into the house and ask
Speaker 2: where'd that come from?
Speaker 3: Like why did they call you that?
Speaker 1: Listen? I almost blurted it. I want to blurt it
Speaker 1: out in the podcast. That's how frightened I was ever
Speaker 1: since that date.
Speaker 3: I remember one time me and my brother was getting
Speaker 3: the too it. We was young enough and I was
Speaker 3: mad and when I like, when I get mad, I
Speaker 3: just I guess I would smelling my pists. At this point,
Speaker 3: I start cussing that nigga out in front of them, like
Speaker 3: I didn't care, nigga, but I didn't. The way I'm
Speaker 3: cussing him out, you would have thought my mama wouldn't
Speaker 3: even right there, nigga. When I tell you my whole shirt,
Speaker 3: she pulled me from my shirt and pulled me back
Speaker 3: in the crayl while I was walking out, and she
Speaker 3: just you could tell how her she was, how I
Speaker 3: was talking to my brother. I was, well, you thinking
Speaker 3: you could just talk like that? Like what you think
Speaker 3: this is? You feel me like? She she was mad.
Speaker 3: She was mad that she heard me talk to my
Speaker 3: brother like that, because that's at the time when you
Speaker 3: cuss outside with me, you ain't. You ain't cussing in
Speaker 3: front of your parents like that's a no note. Outside
Speaker 3: were cussing up a store coming to ours, you but
Speaker 3: you ain't doing nothing. You couldn't even you couldn't even
Speaker 3: answer my mama with what. You couldn't say, she lying,
Speaker 3: don't use the word liar or say what? Who you what?
Speaker 3: That's how I asked what because.
Speaker 1: I wish I would tell my mom. She called me
Speaker 1: CD what she'd have looked across that motherfucking ring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: loik at that ship. She didit me with a lamp.
Speaker 1: You that's back because with parents threw anything to you
Speaker 1: that was close to them, A fist, tailed, a lamp,
Speaker 1: a shoe. Take remote remote used to be your mom
Speaker 1: grandiest weapon she had. Throw that motherfucking remote. Fucking remote.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to you name me break this motherfucker remote. Okay,
Speaker 1: what if your kid came out like Lorie Hardy, what
Speaker 1: do you do as a parent?
Speaker 3: Then I wouldn't know, man, I would I wouldn't like it.
Speaker 2: I know how I would handle that. Would I would
Speaker 2: legally change my last name and say, don't know who
Speaker 2: she is? You you turned on the morning radio show
Speaker 2: and it'd be like the Steve Peterson Show, all that shink,
Speaker 2: Laurie Harvey, I don't know. That's a strange lady. She
Speaker 2: popped up out of nowhere. Weird bitch.
Speaker 1: Are you embarrassed if that's your kid? Like a Steven
Speaker 1: Harvey and bears?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean like Steve Rvy is Steve Rvy?
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know if you know even game?
Speaker 2: What's she really? What she really do? It just kind
Speaker 2: of like worst with skippy outfits and dates some high
Speaker 2: profile people. I mean it depends, like I guess, the
Speaker 2: hell of a lot worse than that. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she just dated a lot of men we know
Speaker 3: and see how a few high profile you know, Laurie
Speaker 3: wors some short dresses. R Dash, she and and somebody
Speaker 3: that's a little different.
Speaker 1: Okay, what if you was what's who if he was robbed?
Speaker 1: What's the pop's name? Robert Gardashian?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will be I will be like, I will
Speaker 3: be hurt. I'll start taking the blame, like damn, what what?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What did I do or didn't do?
Speaker 3: Why would she make it decision.
Speaker 2: Either, especially like the like the Hilton Dad. That's a
Speaker 2: brand name guy with a brand name family you don't
Speaker 2: really know. I mean like Kardashian, Yeah he was in
Speaker 2: good Lawyer whatnot. But that's not a name like Pow
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You see held everywhere right next to this day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she she damn near rebranded that whole
Speaker 2: hotel empire, like they might have all just changed the
Speaker 2: name of Snoopy Fox at that point.
Speaker 3: And you know what's crazy because I used to that's
Speaker 3: funny because I when I was young, I thought of
Speaker 3: the Hilton as being like this real luxurious hotel.
Speaker 1: Saying what it kind of was though, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like, yeah, I feel like
Speaker 2: they're working.
Speaker 3: That ship is in days and now that's like the
Speaker 3: best WESTY know them.
Speaker 2: They got like the Hilton gardens. Now they have like
Speaker 2: all sorts of tears, like this courtyard by Marriott.
Speaker 3: Then she tried to give me pull up to a
Speaker 3: bye him.
Speaker 1: And she didn't rebranded the Hill each of the slewti fots.
Speaker 1: I'm crying. She didn't rebranded the Hill into the Motel six.
Speaker 3: Shit man, I take as loud ass events.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't know. I would be because you know what,
Speaker 3: as a parent, man, you kind of you pride yourself
Speaker 3: for your kids accomplishments. Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: I remember my mom just always wanted us. She all
Speaker 3: she talked about was walking the stage, walking the stage.
Speaker 3: You better walk that motherfucking stage. That's all I know,
Speaker 3: both of middle school or high school. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, you better walk that stage. And I
Speaker 3: was I wasn't even worried about what I'm gonna do
Speaker 3: after school. I'm worried about just walking the stage and
Speaker 3: not embarrassing her more so than anything else.
Speaker 1: With a black community, Man and me and Pete talk
Speaker 1: about this all the time. I'd be telling him it'd
Speaker 1: be all about keeping your kids alive, out of jail
Speaker 1: and get them through high school. There's no thought of
Speaker 1: anything else after that. In the darkest parts of the
Speaker 1: culture and the darkest parts of that existed. And because
Speaker 1: college don't even seem like a real thing, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, They don't even seem like a real thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I find myself sometimes like, yeah, the college thing
Speaker 3: like Man's I'll be telling my daughter, if you want
Speaker 3: to go, you know, just figure out what it is
Speaker 3: you want to do and do it. I'll be like,
Speaker 3: go for the bread, go for something that you know
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna enjoy. It's gonna pay you. If you're
Speaker 3: gonna go to school, get some money. Well, I think
Speaker 3: I go into business for yourself. Cool. I'm definitely not
Speaker 3: that person acting like entrepreneurship is just what everybody does now,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, you could just do it.
Speaker 3: It's be an entrepreneur. It's like it's that's a lot
Speaker 3: more tougher than what people believe because they looking at scammers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of eb treneurs out there.
Speaker 1: What you say.
Speaker 2: I said, there's a lot of eb treneurs out there.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get your ass.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: It is no, it is they scamming selling classes. Yeah,
Speaker 6: this nigga selling the classes. The nigga selling the class
Speaker 6: right now. Probably if you show you how to set
Speaker 6: up a stream yard, is.
Speaker 1: That really robbing anything? Like what college do?
Speaker 3: We ain't saying, Robin, I was just talking about. It's
Speaker 3: just everybody like just talking about as far as my daughter,
Speaker 3: you know, trying to you know, encourage her to go
Speaker 3: to college or even if she want to just figure
Speaker 3: out her own business owner you know, our own business.
Speaker 3: But I don't be preaching entrepreneurship like it's like it's
Speaker 3: just the grandest thing in the world. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, You.
Speaker 1: About to be the kind of person make a choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that got to be you th.
Speaker 3: Because there's a boss there's a false narrative about entrepreneurship
Speaker 3: out there because of scammers and he entreneurs.
Speaker 1: You know, but what's crazy is what Peter saying makes sense.
Speaker 1: Like when you were talking about the disappointment, the greatest
Speaker 1: disappointment for his parents was him not taking those last
Speaker 1: little classes getting that degree. It didn't matter where he
Speaker 1: ended up after that. It was like they felt like
Speaker 1: that was for them.
Speaker 2: Nah, No, that I don't know. I think they just
Speaker 2: thought like there was a lot of contexts to that,
Speaker 2: Like I had been a giant disappointment like forever and
Speaker 2: then kind of had a brief window of redemption because
Speaker 2: I like, why.
Speaker 1: The hell did you become up? How was you that? Forever?
Speaker 2: I always was a disappointment, So what you mean, I
Speaker 2: mean I've all always like not even landed with an
Speaker 2: earshot of expectations, you know.
Speaker 3: So the.
Speaker 2: Thing like with that that it was kind of one
Speaker 2: of those deals where I had like a little window
Speaker 2: of like redemption so to speak, after school, because like
Speaker 2: I left college that got hired for like a really
Speaker 2: good job that was probably on paper. I got that
Speaker 2: shit because I clobbered an interview, Like I just like
Speaker 2: went through a series of interviews and just like ripped
Speaker 2: them up, so I got like a slew of job
Speaker 2: offers all at once. It was a strong job market also,
Speaker 2: and I didn't really appreciate that aspect of it. And
Speaker 2: then the position got nixed from the company. I was
Speaker 2: at the other positions that offered me before, those availables
Speaker 2: weren't there anymore. So I went from like having it
Speaker 2: all together to having it not altogether. And I had
Speaker 2: gone online and spent money to enroll online, but I
Speaker 2: was working. I forgot like when schooled even started, Like
Speaker 2: I would figure out like two weeks in next thing,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, oh, I'm guaranteed a D because
Speaker 2: I missed the whole first fucking everything for this class,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, I'm just not gonna do this.
Speaker 2: I'm on academic probation now because I enrolled in school,
Speaker 2: paid for it twice, and it just like and forgot
Speaker 2: when school started because I'm like worried about other shit, right,
Speaker 2: So it was kind of one of those things where,
Speaker 2: like you, I was like twenty four and they were
Speaker 2: just like, I think it was one of those deals
Speaker 2: when my my dad just kind of looked at it
Speaker 2: like he just isn't isn't shit, isn't gonna be shit.
Speaker 2: It was more emblematic then they wanted me to have
Speaker 2: a degree. I wonder it was like white people not
Speaker 2: being shit. You're looking at it.
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a hide.
Speaker 2: Not shit, No it's not. You just have a very
Speaker 2: narrow scope on this computer screen.
Speaker 3: Say we gotta follow him around with a camera one day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we fish eye lends this thing right here
Speaker 2: at the top of this laptop.
Speaker 1: He's real bad outside of this square.
Speaker 2: And I mean real bad. There's not even walls beyond
Speaker 2: this square. I'm still gonna park.
Speaker 3: That's how Family five got on street. There was so
Speaker 3: much ship all on the couch. I said, nigga, that shit.
Speaker 3: Get a camera right here.
Speaker 1: You got to clean that up.
Speaker 2: Old man, I ain't ship. I'm old, and I ain't
Speaker 2: got ship to show for it. That's truth. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie if you have this show for it. I mean,
Speaker 2: for christ I got turned forty years old this year.
Speaker 2: I mean, like everybody else that I grew up with,
Speaker 2: got a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a
Speaker 2: lot a lot, like kids, every financial kids, families, wives, careers, holmes, retirement,
Speaker 2: all this shit. They got a lot, a lot, a lot.
Speaker 2: So it's not even close. It's not even close at all.
Speaker 2: So I don't disagree with them.
Speaker 1: Do you not think that light though? Do you not
Speaker 1: think life is supposed to run your own race?
Speaker 2: Hmmm? Said? What's up?
Speaker 1: And like, do you not think we're supposed to run
Speaker 1: your own race? Yeah?
Speaker 2: You are, but you can run it fucked up, slow
Speaker 2: blow amstring and finished last, or you can win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're not really competing.
Speaker 2: Always competing, You're always competing. You're never the market, your expectations,
Speaker 2: every people around you. You're always competing to such, not
Speaker 2: competing is probably not good.
Speaker 1: So you got it all?
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Let's take my parents for example. Right, everybody felt that
Speaker 1: I was supposed to go to college, my older sister's family, mother.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out that way, right, I end up
Speaker 1: being this pretty popular drug dealer that was a gang member,
Speaker 1: low ride and blah blah blah. So that was my
Speaker 1: first thing. I would have lost right that that w
Speaker 1: we Raight, I started rapping. Everybody didn't think I was
Speaker 1: gonna be able to pull it off. I still pulled
Speaker 1: it off. Parents didn't even think I was gonna pull
Speaker 1: it off. Yeah, pulled it off.
Speaker 2: Did I win?
Speaker 1: No? Right? Then I started looking at other rapids. Right now,
Speaker 1: mind you when I first get in the game, I'm
Speaker 1: with gang right facing g Ride face put me on
Speaker 1: g ride my brother pulled all these people. Game sells
Speaker 1: half a million records in the first week. Right, I
Speaker 1: barely get a record deal? Did I win? No, I
Speaker 1: get a record deal. Right, I'm signing cash Money records.
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne comes out, sells a million records in the
Speaker 1: first week I put out my first single. It does
Speaker 1: welp for me? Did I win? Like? How do you compete? Like?
Speaker 1: How do I really measure myself up against people that
Speaker 1: don't have the exact experiences like mine? Like the only time,
Speaker 1: like even as a rapper, Right, you know why I
Speaker 1: never felt like I was losing behind Game or behind
Speaker 1: Wayne or behind Kendrick is because I wasn't a rapper.
Speaker 1: Where we started at was completely different.
Speaker 2: Sure, but it's like you're competing against the games on
Speaker 2: your schedule, right, So you're competing it. Like, let's say
Speaker 2: that because it started the genesis of the of the
Speaker 2: diagram was not going to college and doing going from
Speaker 2: hustling to rapping, Right, so you didn't have to surrender
Speaker 2: like twenty years time. So that's a when you made
Speaker 2: more money in the interim. That's a win. You exceeded
Speaker 2: media and income for that path in rapping and hustling,
Speaker 2: so that's the win. So compared to that starting point
Speaker 2: for week one of the schedule, you went.
Speaker 1: But if you had an older sisters, they felt I
Speaker 1: lost because I was hustling, But you didn't lose it hustling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but hustling was the gass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fact that you just choose to do something illegal.
Speaker 2: But again, it's like you're down in the second quarter,
Speaker 2: but you're up out of fourth quarter because by the
Speaker 2: time you get your path manifested, now you're ahead of
Speaker 2: where you you have money and security, ahead of where
Speaker 2: you otherwise would have had had you done that path.
Speaker 1: So that's a win. But that's what I'm seeing. That's
Speaker 1: why I feel like even though the the expectations are
Speaker 1: peers put on us cannot be real, right paroding like
Speaker 1: because they don't till them who we are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's true. But yeah, but I think they're
Speaker 2: trying to. I think their expectation is for is just
Speaker 2: for kind of a blanket standard typically, so you either
Speaker 2: exceed meat or fall short of that kind of blanket standard.
Speaker 2: It is kind about pay some some parents are really
Speaker 2: like myself has to be specifically a doctor or specifically
Speaker 2: a lawyer. Sometimes it's very narrow. I think by a
Speaker 2: large it's just a certain a standard. You know, you
Speaker 2: either there or you're not.
Speaker 1: What did you think your parents? What would you think
Speaker 1: your parents would have been happy if you did? What
Speaker 1: exactly had?
Speaker 2: What kind of career, kind of anything, just like anything
Speaker 2: that was buildable and anything that was a stable, secure career,
Speaker 2: that was buildable, that was growth trajectory oriented, and that
Speaker 2: was security oriented. So they were happy, like our first
Speaker 2: year at a school, were very happy with that. But
Speaker 2: I never was able to recreate that opportunity. I mean,
Speaker 2: like God, let go in a downward slump of the
Speaker 2: like a downward slump of the entire economy. Two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight was not a great year to find yourself
Speaker 2: being newly unemployed.
Speaker 3: All right, from the look at my life right now,
Speaker 3: she she she will be proud. She is proud of me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your mom probably look at joe what's crazy is Joey?
Speaker 1: How hard you are on yourself? All parents are hella
Speaker 1: proud because they're like, man, my boy graduate high school,
Speaker 1: he take care of his kid, He got a job
Speaker 1: that got security, this, that and the third. But Joe, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Paid, especially my mama. You can't.
Speaker 1: You know, it's right to a degree, right. But the
Speaker 1: only it's like I tell you, like I tell still
Speaker 1: all the time, y'all. Problem is gonna be your intellect
Speaker 1: is a little too vast for you, Like you try
Speaker 1: to take a sheep opportunity when you're a shepherd or what.
Speaker 1: And that's Peter's problem. Peter is not a fucking sheep,
Speaker 1: Like the life he even compared would never work is
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying some of his friends he grew
Speaker 1: up with are not smart or not even educated. But
Speaker 1: Pete is an intellectual, so his idea of creating is vast.
Speaker 1: His ability to listen is bad. To take in information
Speaker 1: and make it work and be his it's that your
Speaker 1: motherfucker man, Like we talk about your job, motherfucker be
Speaker 1: at your job. Motherfuckers be that's the greatest thing in
Speaker 1: the world to them. You sit around this mother fucker like, man,
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be doing so much more with
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: I felt that way. One day. Yeah, I'll be going
Speaker 2: through that, But like I didn't have a thought in
Speaker 2: my head till I was probably thirty dead as.
Speaker 1: Serious, I'm sure, yeah, fucking bitch, I didn't.
Speaker 2: That didn't cross my mind till I was probably twenty.
Speaker 2: I don't fuck it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what this time pass you by.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck, but.
Speaker 1: You all remember what you was thinking about?
Speaker 2: Different? Everything was a different. My brain was was like
Speaker 2: the White House. Every few years, there was somebody.
Speaker 1: Else in it. So you don't know who you was.
Speaker 2: I know who I was. I didn't know what the
Speaker 2: fuck I wanted to do what I was interested in
Speaker 2: even to this day, like people like, if I meet
Speaker 2: some woman, she is, what do you like to do? Nothing?
Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't know what you like to do?
Speaker 1: Comedy.
Speaker 2: I don't like to do comedy. I hate doing comedy.
Speaker 2: That's why I don't do it, because I hate it.
Speaker 2: I hate doing comedy.
Speaker 1: Wow, I know that it's crazy.
Speaker 2: I hate that going to the comedy clubs. Christ, that's
Speaker 2: why I stopped going. I hate I hate that shit
Speaker 2: more than I hate a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Wait, so you hate doing comedy or you hate what
Speaker 3: the things you gotta.
Speaker 2: Do for all of it, all of it.
Speaker 3: That's why I about this business that I don't like,
Speaker 3: but I still enjoy doing it. I hate all of it.
Speaker 2: That's why the only way I ever wanted to do
Speaker 2: it was one very particular way. I need to write
Speaker 2: out an ace out of a special film it and
Speaker 2: sell the content and be done. I don't want to
Speaker 2: go perform it. I don't want to go to the
Speaker 2: clubs and test. I don't want to do any of
Speaker 2: that shit you like doing. No, I don't know what
Speaker 2: I like doing just socially. There's nothing that I enjoy
Speaker 2: doing in life.
Speaker 3: How often you hit the bar and be chilling like
Speaker 3: I know you already said that.
Speaker 2: I was at these barble not often, not off number
Speaker 2: last like seven eight years, very rare.
Speaker 3: So you you would you be considered an introvert?
Speaker 2: I am now. I didn't used to be, but I
Speaker 2: am now.
Speaker 1: What the fuck what? You don't know what you like?
Speaker 3: No, you know a lot of shit too, that's what
Speaker 3: you got something that makes so much ship.
Speaker 1: Were fucking women for that fucking a field day with
Speaker 1: your motherfucking ass right there? Like you motherfuck? I hope
Speaker 1: they be like, see that's what's roll and peak. He
Speaker 1: always asked me what happened to pee?
Speaker 2: Who the only the like I went from. I think
Speaker 2: when I was younger, you kind of have like your
Speaker 2: pursuing happiness, you know, I went, I had a paradigm
Speaker 2: shift probably six years ago, seven maybe maybe not even
Speaker 2: that long ago. A few years ago. I had a
Speaker 2: paradigm shift five or six years ago. I'm just it's
Speaker 2: it's just miter misery, mitigation. At this point, all I
Speaker 2: want to do is go sit out on that balcony,
Speaker 2: smoke a cigar and just not think about it. For
Speaker 2: it now, it's all I want to think about other things.
Speaker 2: I want to read it. I want to read an
Speaker 2: article about technology or markets. Well, I smoke a cigar
Speaker 2: for about ninety minutes, So that's all. That's not what
Speaker 2: I like. It's what I it's what I dislike. Least man, Wait, the.
Speaker 3: Pet I ain't even acknowledge it, you know, as it's crazy,
Speaker 3: So you just tru you got to write that special man.
Speaker 3: All this is if this right here we're talking about
Speaker 3: all this is good for the special dog.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm putting junk bond junk bond pussy
Speaker 2: from last week that's going in if I if I
Speaker 2: ever do anything, junk bond pussies in.
Speaker 1: Bill Bird is like your You're like Elder Twin.
Speaker 3: Could hut and Bill Burden and made it to my
Speaker 3: top five.
Speaker 2: Really, Bill Burr's a happier man than me. Bill Burr
Speaker 2: is a comedian. He's a happier guy than me.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Bill Burr is happy than you.
Speaker 2: You know how I knew because Bill Burr sat down
Speaker 2: opposite Jerry Seinfeld on Comedians and Cars getting coffee and
Speaker 2: look Jerry dead in the eye and he goes, you're
Speaker 2: a real you are an angry man to Jerry Slidefeld
Speaker 2: said you you're he's a You're you do comedy a
Speaker 2: lot angrier than me, and like you could just kind
Speaker 2: of tell Bill Rance, but he's a happy guy. He rants,
Speaker 2: but he's a happy guy.
Speaker 1: So he's in character. Mhm, it's a caricature. He's a
Speaker 1: caricature of Pete.
Speaker 2: No, he's a caricature of his dad. Be honest. I
Speaker 2: mean you look at that TV show he did the cartoon.
Speaker 1: You need to just have uh fucking ship where you
Speaker 1: just talk about shit. You don't like.
Speaker 2: That's all I do.
Speaker 1: The kid Pete.
Speaker 2: That would be god man, if if I had a kid.
Speaker 2: You know what happened. You know what I would do
Speaker 2: every day? I would call that fucking department at the
Speaker 2: county and tell them to take this kid away. If
Speaker 2: I had a kid, I'd be calling what's a child
Speaker 2: Protective Services? On myself three four times a day. They
Speaker 2: blocked my number.
Speaker 1: How did you get to this space, bro to where
Speaker 1: you're just so unhappy with existing? That's years of practice
Speaker 1: or hurt yourself and nothing?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: You ain't that saying I don't like everybody driving home?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that's not you don't like yourself. You
Speaker 1: just don't like everything else.
Speaker 2: Ask both.
Speaker 1: But I mean I don't like you don't dislike yourself
Speaker 1: enough to hurt yourself.
Speaker 2: I can't afford it, God damn it. See there's the thing.
Speaker 2: I got really bad luck, right, like you acknowledge like
Speaker 2: I Got'm notoriously unlucky.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Here's why I can't hurt myself because I fuck up
Speaker 2: too much shit. If I tried to hurt myself, I
Speaker 2: would you know what I would end up hurt? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I would just be like long term injured. I'd be
Speaker 2: like what now, let's look, I'd be like, well, now
Speaker 2: I can't even get my ass out there, smoke my cigar.
Speaker 2: It was stuck over there.
Speaker 1: We get a wheelchair at the patio door with a.
Speaker 2: I'd have half my face missing and I'd be sitting
Speaker 2: there just like for the next forty years, with better medication,
Speaker 2: probably fifty years, just be like, what the fuck, Yeah.
Speaker 1: We gotta get you. You need a Therapist's cool?
Speaker 2: No, Remember remember those two girls who did the podcast
Speaker 2: and then they yeah, and they had the therapist come
Speaker 2: on like a few episodes and they can try to
Speaker 2: like get the therapist on me and all me and
Speaker 2: all me and on me, and the therapist was like, no,
Speaker 2: this guy, hate him, need no therapy. You knows exactly
Speaker 2: who he is, exactly what's around him. That's just how
Speaker 2: the fuck he feels. She conceded it pretty quickly, crying.
Speaker 2: She was like, there's no asymmetry, there's no disconnect here
Speaker 2: that could be fixed with therapy. It's just what it is.
Speaker 2: And I was like, thank you. It was very vindicating.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it very much.
Speaker 1: We had her mad.
Speaker 2: You like it?
Speaker 3: You liked it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you might just I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll preak I'll break for the math
Speaker 1: that's your ass, is crazy your ass.
Speaker 2: It's called worse.
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Speaker 1: This episode was recorded right here on the West coast
Speaker 1: of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King,
Speaker 1: for the Black Effect Podcast Network and now Hard Radio. Yeah.