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Speaker 1: years sometimes without winning one, and they're doing everything right

430
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Speaker 1: or as close to it as you can get. So

431
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Speaker 1: this is hard to do. So you know, you asked

432
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Speaker 1: Kirby Smart this year, Kirby Smart won a title. Think

433
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Speaker 1: about how much had to go right. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: finish the season with the guy they started the year

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback. All kinds of stuff could go wrong.

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Speaker 1: So no, I don't think it's ever championship or bus

437
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Speaker 1: from my perspective Mark, but again, I will admit there

438
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Speaker 1: could be a large enough crowd that starts to think

439
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Speaker 1: the opposite way that for all intents and purposes, it

440
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Speaker 1: could be that for Jimbo Fisher. That's moving on, shall we?

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Speaker 1: I like the clip. We're wrong. We're getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions out of the way here. So La Longhorn

443
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Speaker 1: was up next, and this was a question that really

444
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Speaker 1: got me thinking. I almost didn't want to run with

445
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Speaker 1: it in the podcast because I almost thought about making

446
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Speaker 1: this its own show or segment, at least in a

447
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Speaker 1: main show. I'll read it for you then we can

448
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Speaker 1: all react together. So La Longhorn asked, do you think

449
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Speaker 1: we could ever have a relegation or promotion style conference

450
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Speaker 1: model for Power five and G five? He said he's

451
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Speaker 1: been watching Ted Lasso. This is obviously the kind of

452
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Speaker 1: model that exists in international soccer. It is one of

453
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Speaker 1: the areas where I think they nail it just absolutely

454
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Speaker 1: nail it, and some of you are. You may hear

455
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Speaker 1: this a lot, but you're not familiar with what it means.

456
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Speaker 1: All it means is, aside from playing for a championship,

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Speaker 1: and aside from coaches coaching to have certain escalators hit

458
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Speaker 1: in their contract, there's something else on the line. And

459
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Speaker 1: what's on the line is if you're bad enough, you

460
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Speaker 1: get demoted your team or in this case, I guess

461
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Speaker 1: your program. You would get demoted down to a lesser

462
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Speaker 1: level of competition, a lower caliber level of competition. Conversely,

463
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Speaker 1: if you're so good in that lower level, you get

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Speaker 1: promoted up to the big leagues. So here's what I

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Speaker 1: think that would look like. And of course this is

466
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Speaker 1: all but impossible in college football unfortunately, but in an

467
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Speaker 1: alternative fantasy world, it would be one of the best

468
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Speaker 1: things to happen to this sport. If you could give

469
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Speaker 1: me this and combine it with the old BCS model,

470
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Speaker 1: we would have bettered college football. So I want you

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Speaker 1: to think about this for a second. To me, the

472
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Speaker 1: best or closest and most realistic way to do this

473
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Speaker 1: would be have each Power five conference combine or maybe

474
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Speaker 1: join forces in a partnership with a G five conference.

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Speaker 1: So let's just say the SEC and the AAC partner.

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Speaker 1: So that's the conference. Bama and Georgia and everyone are

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Speaker 1: in partnering with the conference, at least at the moment

478
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Speaker 1: that your ucfs and Cincinnaties are in. They're about to

479
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Speaker 1: move to the Big twelve. But just humor me here,

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Speaker 1: So let's use the Sunbelt, Okay, cause the Sun Belt's

481
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Speaker 1: not changing up all that much. So let's say the

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Speaker 1: SEC and the Sun Belt were combined. And let's say

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Speaker 1: that we understood, if you finish last place in the

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Speaker 1: SEC for the twenty twenty three season, you are dropping

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Speaker 1: to the Sun Belt, and if you finish first place

486
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Speaker 1: in the Sun Belt, you are jumping up to the SEC.

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Speaker 1: And so Vanderbilt may go down and Louisiana Lafayette may

488
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Speaker 1: go up. It makes the end of the season so

489
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Speaker 1: multi dimensional because if you're Louisiana and you're playing and

490
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Speaker 1: you're undefeated towards the end of the year, you're already

491
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Speaker 1: tuned in, you already care. But think about what this

492
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Speaker 1: would do on games that otherwise you're being told are meaningless.

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Speaker 1: Think about how much how much drama and intrigue and

494
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Speaker 1: ramification there would all of a sudden, be in Tennessee

495
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Speaker 1: versus Vanderbilt late in the year. Imagine being Tennessee and

496
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Speaker 1: let's say you're on a seven and four, seven and

497
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Speaker 1: five towards the end of the year, and so it's

498
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Speaker 1: kind of been a disappointing season for you, but you know,

499
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Speaker 1: you got Vandy at the end of the year, and

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Speaker 1: Vandy is sitting there and they got two wins, and

501
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Speaker 1: they're on the precipice of finishing last in the SEC,

502
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Speaker 1: and they know if they lose to you, they're gone,

503
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Speaker 1: They're out of the SEC. Imagine what that game would

504
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Speaker 1: feel like. All of a sudden, you got a two

505
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Speaker 1: win Van team and its must see. At least the

506
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: second half of the game is must see because you've

507
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Speaker 1: got an actual spot in the conference on the line.

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Speaker 1: And then conversely, you may be a Kentucky fan who

509
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Speaker 1: couldn't care less. You couldn't find Lafayette or Lafayette, Lafayette, Lafayette,

510
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Speaker 1: Louisiana on a map. We have a Lafayette in Alabama,

511
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Speaker 1: so I grew up pronouncing it Lafayette. You can't find

512
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Speaker 1: Lafayette Louisiana on a map. But you know that team

513
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Speaker 1: could be coming into my conference. I gotta watch this game.

514
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Speaker 1: That would be very fun. If I could take those

515
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Speaker 1: two concepts, if I could combine promotion and relegation, and

516
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Speaker 1: I could also get the BCS back, I would have

517
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Speaker 1: greatly enhanced the regular season. If I could go back

518
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Speaker 1: to where people did not tie every bit of meaning

519
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Speaker 1: on a regular season game to whether it was impacting

520
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Speaker 1: the playoff picture or not. And then I could also

521
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Speaker 1: have promotion and relegation consequences riding on some of those

522
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Speaker 1: regular season games. That would be great. I would love

523
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Speaker 1: that for so many reasons. We'll never get it. Normally,

524
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Speaker 1: the things that would be best for the sport you

525
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Speaker 1: seldom get. Just think about how many people from a

526
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Speaker 1: practicality standpoint would have to come to the table and

527
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Speaker 1: agree to that. And there would be so many people

528
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Speaker 1: that would have no interest in agreeing to it. They

529
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Speaker 1: would have no financial investment, they would have no motivation

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Speaker 1: that have to agree to it. But man, that would

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Speaker 1: be so so fun. All right, There are several more

532
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Speaker 1: questions here, and I'm going to get to them in

533
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Speaker 1: a matter of moments. But you know what we got

534
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Speaker 1: to do first. We got to talk to you about

535
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Speaker 1: this so not the most seamless of ad tosses. There

536
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Speaker 1: not my best work. I think we've done a lot

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Speaker 1: better work in the recent past. Recent past, I've been

538
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Speaker 1: on a roll. I really wasn't myself. There had a

539
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Speaker 1: lot going on, all right, let's roll on this morning.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you being tuned in and listening wherever you are.

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Speaker 1: Brian continues with this, If you could spend a day

542
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Speaker 1: at any school in the country and get all access

543
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: to that program, which program are you picking? Naturally, I

544
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Speaker 1: went like three different directions, but there is one that

545
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Speaker 1: stands out above the rest. I would pick the Clemson Tigers.

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Speaker 1: I would want to go and spend a day shadowing

547
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Speaker 1: Dabo Swenny and the Clemson Tigers. Now, I'll tell you why.

548
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Speaker 1: For a guy that's been on the biggest stage for

549
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Speaker 1: quite a while, I think Daboswenny is still misunderstood nationally,

550
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Speaker 1: and I really think that there's a lot of him

551
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Speaker 1: that is, you know, a lot of what drives that

552
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Speaker 1: program and feels that program that's misunderstood, and so I'd

553
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Speaker 1: want to be around it. I'd love if you ask

554
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Speaker 1: me which guest I would love to have on late

555
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Speaker 1: Kick Daboswenny's right at the top of the list because

556
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Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people look at the

557
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Speaker 1: Clemson program and look at Daboswenny and actually know what

558
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Speaker 1: it's about and what he's about. Now, everyone around Clemson

559
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: would tell you that. I'm telling you that for different

560
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: reasons maybe than even you Clemson fans. We both have

561
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Speaker 1: our reasons, we both have the meaning behind what we're saying.

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Speaker 1: To me, I think there's here's the way he struck me,

563
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Speaker 1: the way Dabbo has always try me is there's a

564
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Speaker 1: message that he's trying to get out, and there's something

565
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: he's trying to convey. But he is so jaded, rightfully so,

566
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Speaker 1: towards the national media apparatus, and he feels confrontational, sometimes

567
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: an adversarial sometimes with them, again for good reason, and

568
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: so eventually it got to where he kind of put

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Speaker 1: a veil up and he's not letting you through it.

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Speaker 1: And I would love to go through it. That's why

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have him on the show open invitation,

572
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Speaker 1: anytime he wants it. But I would love to be

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Speaker 1: able to see that, and I would love to hang

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Speaker 1: out with him and be around that Clemson program and

575
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Speaker 1: there's no camera, like, there's no mic, and you just

576
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Speaker 1: get to observe, but you get open access to him,

577
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Speaker 1: you get just open, honest dialogue. I think it would

578
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Speaker 1: be eye opening. I also think the way they go

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Speaker 1: about it that Clemson is indeed different, and I would

580
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: just love to observe that entire process operationally. I would

581
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Speaker 1: love to be around that. They got good facilities up there.

582
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Speaker 1: I'm sure they eat great. So there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things about the Clemson program that I would

584
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Speaker 1: love to have access to. But I also two other ones,

585
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: so I kind of broke the rules here. I would

586
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Speaker 1: also love to check out Arkansas for some of the

587
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: same reasons. Now, I don't think Pittman is misunderstood. I

588
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: just don't think he is totally understood. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of mystery still for some folks out there.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're in Richmond, Virginia, and you're a

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Speaker 1: Virginia fan, or you're a Virginia Tech fan, or maybe

592
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Speaker 1: you're you know, just kind of a general follower of

593
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Speaker 1: the sport, but you only watch the major major programs.

594
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: You've heard Arkansas. You know of Arkansas, you know the mascot,

595
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: you know they made a little noise this past year,

596
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: but maybe you don't know what's making that program tick.

597
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: I got a good feeling, I know, but I'd love

598
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Speaker 1: to be around it. I'd love to be around Sam Pittman.

599
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Speaker 1: How many guys that are head coaches in this sport

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Speaker 1: would you just rather hang out with for a day?

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Speaker 1: Above Sam Pittman. That's the kind of guy who feels like,

602
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: you know, he knows his way around a cracker barrel

603
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: every bit as much as he knows his way around

604
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Speaker 1: the locker room. He's the kind of guy that you

605
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: really could bump into at home depot. Oh, look at

606
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: Sam Pittman in the lumber section. It smells good here,

607
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: and that feels good. Look, there's my friend, Sam Pittman.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see myself around Arkansas for a day,

609
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: and then, because i'd love to see a program being built,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to go to USC. I'd love to be

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Speaker 1: around Lincoln Riley. Now this is for entirely different reasons.

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Speaker 1: All these guys are welcome on the show, of course,

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Speaker 1: but I would love to be around Lincoln Riley because

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Speaker 1: I would love to watch a coach and his staff

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Speaker 1: as they first interact with their new program. So they're

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Speaker 1: seeing what the old staff left behind, and I would

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00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: love to get their raw, immediate reaction. I'd love to

618
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Speaker 1: know what they think about the infrastructure. I'd love to

619
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Speaker 1: know what they think about the administration, the booster culture

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00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: of the strength and conditioning program, the facilities, the roster.

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Speaker 1: Most of all, I would love to be around them

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Speaker 1: and watch them as they assess the different parts of

623
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Speaker 1: their program. And they give credit here and they just

624
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: trash this there. I'd love to witness that. I could

625
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: do it with Brian Kelly at LSU right now, I

626
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: could do it with Venables at Oklahoma. I doubt Brent

627
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Vinibles has a whole lot of of complaining to do

628
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: it Oklahoma, but stands to reason. I'd love to have

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Speaker 1: access really, any of these new coaches. It could be

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Speaker 1: my answer there to the third part. But you give

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Speaker 1: me access to Clemson or Arkansas or USC, I'd be happy.

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00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: I'd go any direction there. Next up is a question

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Speaker 1: that probably we get asked. I would say we get

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Speaker 1: asked this question as frequently as any single question we

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Speaker 1: ever get. So Gray is up next. He said, what's

636
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Speaker 1: your favorite college football stadium you've been to? I'm talking city, atmosphere, setup, fans,

637
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Speaker 1: everything in totality. I didn't have to think very long

638
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Speaker 1: about this. It is LSU. When Alabama's in town, it's

639
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: always a night game. And so that's my answer. If

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Speaker 1: you can ever make it to Baton Rouge, Louisiana Tiger Stadium,

641
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Speaker 1: Death Valley Saturday night, Nick Saban and Alabama are in town,

642
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: there is absolutely nothing like it in college football. The

643
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: sound is something you would have to experience to believe.

644
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the sound when someone makes

645
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: a big play. I'm talking about the deafening, sustained guttural

646
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: roar on a random third and three midway through the

647
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: second quarter. It's incredible when you leave that place. I

648
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: used to go to the LSU games and drive all

649
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: the way back to Columbus Georgia. I'd beat a mobile

650
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: or sometimes Montgomery before your hearing felt right again. Because

651
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: I didn't wear earplugs. I wanted to experience it, and

652
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: it's like being around several jet engines just all going

653
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: at the same time. There's nothing like it. I was

654
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: talking to one of the LSU staffers on this new

655
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff the other day, and they haven't experienced that. Now,

656
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm really excited for that staff down there in general,

657
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: but man specifically, you get a little wide eyed. I mean,

658
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: I've seen some people in the media who call themselves

659
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: veterans and call themselves having covered all the big events,

660
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: but I've seen them go into Tiger Stadium for the

661
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: first time, and I think it's the same way for players,

662
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: and I think it may be the same way for coaches.

663
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: You get a little wide eyed because you can't believe

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: that that exists, Like you can't believe something that heightens

665
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: your senses to that degree can exist. Everything about it's perfect. Now,

666
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: if you're a road team, it's a nightmare. It's also

667
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: it's also the most truly hostile place I think in

668
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: college football. It's not that you know you're about to

669
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: get assaulted if you go in there, but you're not

670
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: sure you're not either. You feel very uncomfortable. It's a

671
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: very uneasy feeling. I've told the story before. The first

672
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: time I ever went down there was I think an

673
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: Alabama game. It was like twenty sixteen or seventeen, some

674
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: year like that, and I remember it's saving in Alabama.

675
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: Of course they're going in there. I'm there in an

676
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: orange shirt that was the color that was our station

677
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: polo at the time. So I'm just there in neutral colors.

678
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: But I remember walking through from the media parking lot

679
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: getting into the stadium, and I had someone with me

680
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: as well that also worked at the station. I didn't

681
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: feel comfortable for the safety of both of us wearing

682
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: a color other than purple and gold until we got

683
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Speaker 1: in the actual building in the facility. Now I feel

684
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: at home down there. I've been there so much, But

685
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, I can't imagine wearing Crimson

686
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: down here, like I can't imagine what the Bama folks

687
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: feel like. It is a very uncomfortable rabid. It's just

688
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: a ferocious atmosphere. And I've been to them all and

689
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: there are some other places that are very loud, and

690
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: there may be some other places even that compare at

691
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: a sustained decibel level, but there is no place that compares,

692
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: just from an overall atmosphere, to what it's like down there.

693
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Speaker 1: And I'm talking specifically Saturday night Alabama in Town Death Valley, LSU.

694
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: That's as good as it gets in college football, and

695
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: if it's as good as it gets in college football,

696
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: I think it's probably as good as it gets in sports.

697
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: Moving on, good question there, I could talk about that

698
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: all day. Let's go with big footprints. Big Footprints said,

699
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: what is a question we never seem to ask, but

700
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: you're begging to answer? Probably the best question by default,

701
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: because he is he is seeding the question to me.

702
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a psychological trick and it's going to work.

703
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: Here's what I do. It may not always work, but

704
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: what I would do is I would ask for behind

705
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: the scenes stories. That's all I'd ever ask for, because

706
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: you can go get anyone's opinion on what they think

707
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: about the playoff. You can get anyone's opinion on how

708
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Tennessee football is going to look this year, or the

709
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: defensive line at Oklahoma. The behind the scenes stuff what

710
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: we get to see because of the access we have

711
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: that maybe you don't get to see. That's fun. I'll

712
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: give you a story. I already told Jesse, I already

713
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: told Colin, I'll give you a story. So everyone was

714
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: talking about the Jimbo Fisher interview when we were at

715
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: the National Signing Day show last week. That wasn't the

716
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: funniest part to me, though. The funniest part to me

717
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: was about thirty minutes later we were going to have

718
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Speaker 1: Nick Saban on. So we are in a show segment

719
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: and we tossed a break, and then we come back

720
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Speaker 1: from break and they're getting Saban lined up in the

721
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: control room, so I can hear in my ear they're

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00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: getting him on, and they're making sure that his levels

723
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: are good, and they're making sure that he's aligned properly

724
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: in his poss And I want to say it was

725
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 1: Tray Scott who asked Nick Saban to count to ten

726
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: so he could get a mic check, kind of like

727
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: they would a normal person. Well, Saban's not a normal person.

728
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: So here's what happened. Trey Scott tells him, coach, could

729
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: you count to ten? Can we get a mic check?

730
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: And Saban goes one two silence. He gave him a

731
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: two count, which is about two more than I thought

732
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: he was going to give him, and no one in

733
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: the control room had that, you know what about themselves

734
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: to push back and say okay, keep going. So Nick

735
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: Saban just gives him the old one two. It's about it.

736
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: It's about all the energy that I feel like spending

737
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: on this mic check. And so they let me know, hey,

738
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: we're bringing him in. We think we got his audio

739
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: levels right. He only gave us a two count. I

740
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: came this close to just bringing it up on air

741
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: because he would have laughed at it, probably on air,

742
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: but in the moment, that's some of the funniest stuff.

743
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: If you could witness it live. See I can just

744
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: tell you the story if you could be in that

745
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: control room. And the thing about it is when he

746
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: does it, he's not doing it sarcastically. He's not doing

747
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: it to be a jerk. That's just literally his natural

748
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: reaction to being told to count to ten. He just

749
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: went one two. It was a little bit quicker than that,

750
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: and that's all he gave, and that's all we got.

751
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: It worked out fine. We had an interview with him.

752
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: I think we'll have him on again, probably just on

753
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 1: Late Kick sometime maybe during spring or immediately after spring.

754
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Those are always good. Always love having Nick Saban on.

755
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: Because I was telling somebody I was doing an interview

756
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: the other day, I think I may have gone down

757
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: this road before with you, but I'll wrap it up

758
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: this morning with this. If you think about it from

759
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: my perspective, if you're anywhere close to my age anywhere

760
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: from twenty five to fifty. Really, if you're in at

761
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: the very least twenty five to forty. If you're in

762
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: that age bracket and you grew up in the South,

763
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: you did not grow up being able to watch Bear

764
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: Bryant at Alabama, but you heard stories about him, right,

765
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 1: So I grew up that way. I heard stories about

766
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: Bear Bryant at Alabama, but I never got to see him.

767
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: All that existed by the time I came along were

768
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: old VHS tapes, paintings, and stories, and you could go

769
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: visit his grave side in the cemetery there in Elmwood

770
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: in Alabama, which I have done before. But he was

771
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: a legend. It wasn't an actual person to me. I

772
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: never saw him. And so I remember as I started

773
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: to grow up a little bit and I thought, maybe

774
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: I want to be in media, maybe I want to

775
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: be a sports writer, or I didn't know what I

776
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: wanted to be. I thought to myself, how awesome is

777
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: it that some of these people whose work I read

778
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: in a newspaper or on the internet, they actually covered him.

779
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: These are older guys, they actually covered him. They actually

780
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: sat in the same room with him. They were in

781
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: press conferences, they saw him coach, and I always just

782
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: thought in the world of those folks, because they had

783
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: access to a guy that I had had deified in

784
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: my childhood. And I also remember thinking, that's all in

785
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: the past, it's all past tense. We'll never see that, obviously,

786
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: and then Nick Saban comes along and rewrites every record

787
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: in the sport, and he's doing something totally unprecedented, not

788
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: only at his university or in his conference, but in

789
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: the history of the greatest sport in the world. You've

790
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: never seen anyone like him. I don't think we ever

791
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: will see anyone like him. But I sit here every

792
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: time we get him on. We've had him on the

793
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: show several times. Now I get the distinct privilege. You're

794
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: interacting with him a lot. We get to interact with

795
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: the best of all time. This, if I'm in this

796
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: business another forty years, could very well be the pinnacle

797
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: of my career. Anyone who gets to do that. It's

798
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: not lost on me. I get it in the moment.

799
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: Maybe some other folks need to take time and realize

800
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: even in the moment, you are, no matter how much

801
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: further you go in this business, at the pinnacle of

802
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: the business because you are getting to interact with the

803
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: best of all time. We're getting to talk with the

804
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: best of all time, so much so that when we

805
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: do segments with him, I'll look in our comments section

806
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: and I'll see Georgia folks and Auburn folks and Lsu

807
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: folks in I can't stand him. But man, that was

808
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: really good because you know what you've got. He's not

809
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: going to be there forever, so eventually you'll be able

810
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: to beat Alabama. Hopefully, for your sake, you'll be able

811
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: to beat Alabama. Maybe you'll get one on him even

812
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: when he's there, but you will be able to say,

813
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: just as I will be able to say, we watched

814
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. And for that matter, if

815
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: you go to the NFL level, I imagine having watched

816
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: someone like Tom Brady and someone like Nick Saban in

817
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: the same generation. They overlapped their careers, heavily overlapped. Actually

818
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: we got to see all that. That's incredible. So you know,

819
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's the question you ever would

820
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: have asked me if we go back ten minutes and

821
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: rephrase the question. But that is what I enjoyed the most,

822
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: the access that we get that, you know, good and well.

823
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I'll never take for granted because you know where I

824
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: came from. I didn't go into media at age twenty two,

825
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: coming fresh off a journalism school assembly line. That's not me,

826
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: and so I for a long time I just sat

827
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: there and listened to the radio, and you know, read

828
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: the articles and went on the message boards just like

829
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: you did. I get it. So maybe that's why it

830
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: hits me a little bit different. But we're around in

831
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: an incredible generation for college football. I know we talk

832
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: a lot about the problem we have here and should

833
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: we expand this and should we pay a player that.

834
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: If you'll zoom out for a second, you'll realize you've

835
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: seen some incredible things over the last ten to fifteen years,

836
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: not just saving look elsewhere. We've seen explosive growth in

837
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: the sport. Not always for the best, but generally this

838
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: sport is massive. Now, it's as big as it's been

839
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: in well really, it's history and we've been around for it.

840
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: So hey, it's not all bad. There are some sunshine

841
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: and rainbow aspects to this. Really appreciate you guys listening. Look,

842
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: here's all we need. We just need five star reviews

843
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: and just share the show. And when I say share,

844
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't always mean screenshotting. You just go tell five

845
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: people about it. I get that all the time. I

846
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: have people tell me I'm listening to your show because

847
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: my buddy told me about it. That's worth everything. Does

848
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: we appreciate that we don't have a marketing department? We

849
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: don't need one. You are as I always say, the

850
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: marketing department. What we really should do just between us,

851
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: it's what we should do is gather our resources together

852
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: from a marketing standpoint, and we should start our own

853
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: marketing firm. Because if you guys could do for any

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Speaker 1: old product out there what you've done for Lake Kick,

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Speaker 1: we'd be worth a whole lot of money together. So

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Speaker 1: you know what, maybe that's a project. Write it down, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's a project, hey, state marketing. That could be

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Speaker 1: a gold mine for all of us. Until then, though,

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Speaker 1: appreciate everything you do for director Colin, for producer Jesse

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Speaker 1: and producer Jordan. There's a lot of names associated with

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Speaker 1: this brand now that's also according to Grow Up Called

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Speaker 1: a View. I'm just Josh pay Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. I have a great rest of your day,

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Speaker 1: and God bless