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It is live. 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: It is The Herd. 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: Thanks for stopping by today. 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Jamac I was thinking about this this morning is about 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: a year ago. I think ago on this show, I said, 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, as we all go into a draft and 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: we're like, okay, which quarterback is gonna make it? And 17 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: which quarterback is it? And it's about a fifty to 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: fifty hit rate. So general managers this is all they do. 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: They spend all their time on it. There has to 20 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: be something that you watch a college quarterback and you 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: go wow, Like Jaden Daniel's mobility at LSU in Arizona State. 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: You're like wow, A Justin Herbert size and arm he 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: was a four point two biology major. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: You're like brain size arm. 25 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Josh Allen was jumping over linebackers, Mahomes, crazy arm, talent 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: Stafford out of college, huge arm. There's got to be 27 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: something where you have a trade like Kyler Murray can 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: get criticized, but Kyler murray elusiveness was as good as 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: I'd ever seen. It was Russ Wilson plus. And so 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: when you look at certain quarterbacks. When Jalen Hurts came out, 31 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: my take was, well, what's the wow trait? It's been 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: my knock on Purdy Purty. It may be brain up. 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: He is so good pre snap that, like Sam Darnold said, 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: I'd never been around a player like that. He's so 35 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: quick on his feet, so sometimes you can't see the trait. 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: But I was thinking about Jalen hurt somebody that you 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: were really into three years ago, and I've been like, 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: love him as a kid. 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if I love him as a quarterback. 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: But an NFL executive said something yesterday and he said 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: his toughness and his just makeup his personality are so underrated, 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: And I thought he does have two traits. He does 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: have two wow trades. First of all, pound for pound, 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: he's the strongest quarterback in league history. That's why when 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: the greatest center in the last decade left. The tush 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: push still works. It's not about Lane Johnson. It's not 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: about the fullbacker Saquon Barkley. It's about Jalen Hurts. Josh 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Allen can't do it. Herbert can't do it, Daniel Jones 49 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: can't do it. Big strong guys can't do it. He 50 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: can do it. Being five eleven and a half and 51 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: pound for pound, the strongest player probably at any position 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: in the league. He has wow strength. The second thing 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: is he is twenty seven going on forty seven. He's 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: insanely mature, and I think that doesn't matter as much 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: in sleepy markets like Tampa or Carolina, but in loud, noisy, 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: talk radio driven Philadelphia, his maturity is an amazing trait. 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: And so for years I was I was like, what's 58 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: the trade? And I was taught that by GMS. There's 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: gotta be even the guys that fail, Like Anthony Richardson, 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 1: You're like that dude's got an arm that is a 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: first round arm. 62 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 2: Wow. 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Jordan Love when I saw him, You're like, oh man, 64 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: he moves and he throws. Those are two first round traits. 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: I think his ability to stay focused in a loud 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: town dumb and Sirianni and the receivers reading a book 67 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: club over on the sidelines, and talk radio Jalen Hurst 68 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: talking about his ability and his need to stay focused 69 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: in this city. 70 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: You got to come in with a sense of focus. 71 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: You got to stay patient within yourself, stay patient within 72 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: the team and your role and let things come to you. 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: And I think as a team we showed up when 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 4: we needed to the most. And that's the most important 75 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: thing in this league is final. 76 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like there's a reason Paul McCartney is 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: still touring like he was the mature Beatle. It's like 78 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: at twenty four, he was going on forty four and 79 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: I did there was a sense of selflessness, IQ mature 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: beyond his age, and I feel that with Jalen Hurts, 81 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: and I just don't think we think of that as 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: a wow trait, but it is. DA's got some of that. 83 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: And Joel Klatt will be calling Texas Tech at Utah 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: this Saturday at noon Eastern on Fox. 85 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: So I was thinking about this. 86 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: I am. 87 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: You know, for years and years you and I supported 88 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: Harbaugh and there was a lot of noise out there. 89 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: He didn't know what he was doing, and it was like, listen, 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: he wanted San Diego, the Niners, Stanford. 91 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: He's good. 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Okay, he's good, but it's hard in college football. He 93 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 1: was pre nil. Most of building was pre transfer portal, 94 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: so it takes time. He took over a bad roster 95 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: and I I look at him now with the Chargers, 96 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: and I made this argument an hour ago. If the 97 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: if the Pro Football Hall of Fame was like the 98 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: BA Skeball Hall of Fame, where you counted college, you 99 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: counted pro, you counted basketball, I could argue Jim Harbaugh 100 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: is the best football coach the planet's ever had. He's 101 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: five for five. Think about this, Joel five for five 102 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: and Jimmy Johnson's had successes, but when Jimmy leaves a place, 103 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't disintegrate. Cowboys won a Super Bowl, Cane's won 104 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: and Natty I mean Miami Dolphins made the playoffs. 105 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: Is that? 106 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: My argument is Harbaugh's strength is he's not just a 107 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: great coach, he's the soul of your team. He's so 108 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: he's so authentic it might taking you all the years 109 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: you dealt with him. What was your takeaway on Harball? 110 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: Because no coach pro and college has worked at this level. 111 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 1: He went to five messes, he turned around all of 112 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: them immediately, and he leaves and they're all awful the 113 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: next day. Yeah, what is it with him? So that's 114 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: a great I mean, and a loaded question and a 115 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: long answer, because if I was being completely honest with you, 116 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: I covered two different Jim Harbaugh's almost completely No, I'm serious, Colin, 117 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm serious pre COVID. So every time I dealt with him, 118 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: whether it was you know, Stanford or with the Niners 119 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: when in draft process and then pre COVID Michigan, he 120 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: was very standoffish and just like wouldn't let you close. 121 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: It was almost like pulling teeth just to talk with him. 122 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: He was rigid against you. He came with a rigidness 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: in the conversation that wouldn't allow really any communication. Yeah, 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: and after the COVID year, they struggle. He comes back 125 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: on remember that restructured deal at Michigan. And he comes 126 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: back and in twenty twenty one he came out and 127 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: like sat for a production meeting with us for forty minutes, 128 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: and I was like, what is happening right now? 129 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. 130 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: Honest to god, this is exactly what was going on, 131 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: and he was a totally different person, and he was 132 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: open and he was authentic, and he talked about things 133 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: that he struggled with and things that he loved about 134 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: his team. And it started to become very obvious to 135 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: me that what Jim did post COVID. 136 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: Wasn't about football. It was about people. 137 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: And he became much more of a people person, even 138 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: with all of his quirks, but what never left him 139 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: was the foundational things that he believed in from a 140 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: football perspective. I think we're going to see the best 141 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: version of Jim Harbaugh that we've ever seen now with 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers, I don't think there's any doubt that they're 143 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: going to have success. I think that they're ultimately going 144 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl because they've got the coach 145 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: and the quarterback to do it. Maybe not this year, 146 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but at some point with that combination, 147 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: I think that they're going to win a Super Bowl. 148 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: And one of the things I would just go a 149 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: little bit deeper, and I know, like a little backstory 150 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: in this interim coach at Michigan right now, Biff Pogi, Yeah, 151 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Biff is I don't want to say a character, but 152 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: he is a guy that rose through the ranks as 153 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: a high school football coach in Baltimore. And if you've 154 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 1: read it, I think that it's great. And if you haven't, 155 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: there is a book called A Season of Life and 156 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: it features Biff as a high school football coach and 157 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: he was a coach with an old Baltimore colt named 158 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: Joe Erman. And these two were great high school football 159 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: coaches together, and yet they didn't really focus on football. 160 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: They focused on people and loving on the players and 161 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: telling the players that they loved them. Well, Biff's son 162 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: ends up walking on at Michigan and then Jim hired 163 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: Biff to come on in twenty twenty one. And one 164 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: of the things that they did is they would meet 165 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: multiple times a day and Jim would say like, Hey, 166 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: this is how I'm feeling, Biff, I really love the 167 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: way the kids practice, Like I love that, and Biff 168 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: would be like, tell them, tell them authentically from your 169 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: heart and Biff and those meetings changed Jim Harbaugh into 170 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: a player's coach with football foundation principles that would win. 171 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: And so those kids loved him because he told them 172 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: that he loved them. 173 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: So it's a long answer to a very simple question. 174 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: I dealt with two very different Jim Harbaughs, and the 175 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: one that's coaching right now with the Chargers, I think 176 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: will win a Super Bowl. 177 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: So Jane Maia have the. 178 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: Last year for USC. I had friends ask me what 179 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: do you think about USC this year? And I said, 180 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: I really like the roster. I don't know about the quarterback. 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: He just lets go of that ball in half the time. 182 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he knows where it's going. If you 183 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: doubt Lincoln Riley's coaching, you have not seen this kid play. 184 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: He's like not just hardball. He's a different player. Throws 185 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: the ball away, dirts it, tucks it in Like I 186 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: don't know what they did. But if your quarterback's as 187 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: good as this kid is, and their defensive line for 188 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: the first time since Pete Carroll is big and deep, 189 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: like they spent nil money on their d line up players, 190 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: you think I'm crazy, but you take away that goofy touchdown. 191 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: The refs butchered last week winning road games last year, 192 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: Like I don't know. I look at this quarterback and 193 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that feels like a playoff team. Well, 194 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: I mean field like a playoff team. I felt like 195 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: I was trying to talk to you into this last week, 196 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: and I feel like you've come around on kind of 197 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the blueprint that Lincoln Riley used to be successful at Oklahoma, 198 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: and I feel like USC is following more of that 199 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: blueprint this year. They've run it a lot better. Even 200 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: though jade Miova, as you have said, has been terrific. 201 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the more underrated teams in 202 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: the country personally right now. I think that their game 203 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: this weekend against Michigan State is a perfect opportunity to 204 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: beat what I think is a decent team, and then 205 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: they're going to have a monster game against Illinois, which 206 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: is going to be kind of a coming out party 207 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: for my Ava and this entire program as a re 208 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: emergence as a power. They are good on defense, I 209 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: don't know how great they are, but offensively, they're doing 210 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: the right things. Again, They're running the football with effectiveness 211 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: and power. My Ava has been one of the best 212 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the country. In fact, on Wednesday's podcast, I 213 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: broke down and I said, Okay, this was my before 214 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: the year top ten quarterbacks. Well this is the top 215 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks. How they've performed this season. He's on it. 216 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: He's on it. He's been one of the ten best 217 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the country easily statistically and in tangible intangible. 218 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 3: So I'm a believer in USC. 219 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't know how far they're goal they're going to 220 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: go this year, but I will tell you this, I 221 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to play them because they're a scary team 222 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: right now. 223 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: There's too much balance. 224 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Brian Kelly pushedback on the media a little bit, 225 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: and Brian's lush back is putting it lightly. Yeah, he 226 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: had like a meltdown. 227 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a meltdown. 228 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: And he had meltdowns for years at Notre Dame with 229 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: his quarterbacks, and he's just one of those guys. Got 230 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of the Jim Mora. We know he 231 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: can coach. He's very intense, he can be rough on quarterbacks. 232 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: But I always thought more could coach, and I think 233 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly's already good coach. And here, let's just play 234 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: the tape. Do we have the Brian Kelly tape of 235 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: kind of melting down this way? 236 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: Here it is you're. 237 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 6: Micro, You're looking at this from the wrong perspective. LSU 238 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 6: won the football game won the game. I don't know 239 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 6: what you want from me. What do you want? You 240 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 6: want to win seventy to nothing against Florida to keep 241 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 6: you happy. 242 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: There's no ridiculous questions. 243 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 6: And I'm getting tired of it. That football team just 244 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 6: work their tail off to get an SEC win. And 245 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 6: you want to know what's wrong? You know what, You're spoiled. 246 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 6: You're spoiled. 247 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: That's not great. But well you don't like that, no, 248 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so where are we You're such a media member. Oh, 249 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm not being precious. It's a little over the top. 250 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: But these college coaches, they run their states, they run 251 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: the university to the highest paid employee, but also hold 252 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: on timeout timeout, But remember who they represent, you see, 253 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: I I agree if an NFL coach did that, I 254 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: would feel very differently than I do about a college 255 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: coach doing this because and I told you this last 256 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: week with Sark. Sark wasn't talking to the media when 257 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: he defended Arch. He was talking to Arch. Brian is 258 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: talking to his locker room. He's defending his group of guys. 259 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: He's building culture through the media, and the media don't. 260 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: Even realize it. 261 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: They're too narcissistic and they pump their own tires and 262 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: think they're so important that they have to get the 263 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: right answer from Brian Kelly. But Brian Kelly doesn't care 264 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: what they want to hear. And to be honest, I 265 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: will say this. I know people disagree with me on this. 266 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: I also think it's a stupid question, like, really, after 267 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,479 Speaker 1: that game you get five interceptions? 268 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: Your defense is fixed? 269 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Like they their defense was a problem last year and 270 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: their defense has been excellent so far this year. And 271 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: the first question is what's wrong with your offense? This 272 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: is the same type of questions Ryan Day gets at 273 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State. It's like a media that is so self entitled. 274 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: And i'll borrow a term from him, spoil that the 275 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: answers don't The answers aren't intended to make the media 276 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: feel better or feel smarter. The answers are intended to 277 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: build the locker room and protect the locker room. And 278 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: that's what I appreciate about college coaches, because they've got 279 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: to be more aware than that. They don't have, you know, 280 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: grown men in their locker room. They have young men 281 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: in their locker room, and so they're more aware of 282 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: culture and in more times than not, they'll be talking 283 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: to their team through the media. 284 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: I think that's what he did. 285 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: And he runs a little hot, so he got that 286 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: question and he's like, come on, like really he does run. 287 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: I like him, but he runs hot. So you know, 288 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: Caleb struggling in Chicago, and you covered him about it 289 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: at SCAH And I had an NFL GM tell me this. 290 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: I said, I don't care about the fingernails. I don't 291 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: care about jumping in the crowd. 292 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: I said. 293 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: The only time I saw him that bothered me. He 294 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: played at Oregon State his first year and he got 295 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: really poudy and moody on the sidelines and he kind 296 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: of like went into his shell. And I said, that's bad. 297 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, welcome, you know, welcome to big time 298 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: college football. You lose games and have really bad halves. 299 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: But but the GM told me, he said, kind of 300 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: moody can be kind of aloof a little odd. That's 301 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: not you know, quarterbacks tend to there's a reason the 302 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Mannings all work right, Like Eli and Archie and Peyton. 303 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: It's like business first, go in good teammate betterly. It's 304 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: like like, and I guess my take is you covered 305 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: him a lot. Did you ever think it would look 306 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: like this in the pros because it's rough. 307 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: Well let's let's let's break it down. 308 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: I think multiple personalities can win Super Bowls at the 309 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: quarterback position, and that's been proven out. So it's not 310 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: about the personality. And I would push back on you. 311 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: I think you focus too much on the personality then 312 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: you do the foundational aspects of quarterback play. 313 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: Here's what I mean. 314 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: The issues that USC had offensively with Caleb in particular 315 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: late was that he would not play in the confines 316 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: of the offense exactly, and because of that, the offense 317 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: never went to a place that it could go. So 318 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: let me put it to you in another analogy. If 319 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: you're going to take math during the course of your 320 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: high school or college, like, there are prerequisites to get 321 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: to the higher levels. You've got to pass algebra one 322 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: before you can go out to algebra two, and you 323 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: got to go to geometry and do all that before 324 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: you can ever get to calculus, and so on and 325 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: so forth. The issue with Caleb right now is that 326 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: he struggles with algebra one and wants to play calculus 327 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: all the time, and there's foundational things that he has 328 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: to be a part of. 329 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,119 Speaker 3: He's got to play. 330 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: On time, and the ball has to go to the 331 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: right spot in the right timing more often than it does. 332 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: Right now, he's constantly looking for plays that aren't there. 333 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: He won't take things that are there right away what 334 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: the defense is trying to give them. You have to 335 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: play on time and on target. And so for me, 336 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: it's a floor issue. He's not doing the prerequisites, the 337 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: floor of what he needs to do at quarterback, and 338 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: he constantly wants to go up to the top of 339 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: his talent. And you can't go there and impact the 340 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: game unless you've done these things first. So it doesn't matter. Actually, 341 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: the personality you can be aloof. You can yell at guys, 342 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: you can love on guys, you can wear your hat backwards, 343 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: you can wear your hat forwards. You can be a partier, 344 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: you can be a stay at home guy. But the 345 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: prerequisite is is that your floor has to pass the 346 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: minimum bar of the offense's constraints in order for your 347 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: offense to operate well. And he doesn't do that right now. 348 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: By the way, finally Belichick faces UCF. Nobody watched him 349 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: after the opener because they just literally nobody's watching the 350 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: games after the first game. What's Belichick done UCF. I 351 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: think it's undefeated. I think that's the team he plays next. 352 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: Let me ask you for those who stop paying attention 353 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: after the debacle, has anything gotten better at Carolina for Belichick? 354 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 355 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the basics. 356 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: They're blocking better, they're staying on blocks longer, they're getting 357 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: off blocks quicker. On defense, they're aligned quicker, they're aligned more. Foundationally, 358 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: they don't turn the football over. So they're not a 359 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: good or great team yet, but they are clean. They're 360 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: cleaner than what they played against TCU early. And to 361 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: expect that team to play clean with seventy new players 362 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: and a new coach probably was an unrealistic expectation from 363 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: all of us looking at Bill Belichick and U and C. 364 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: But every single week they get a little bit better 365 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: with the things that they can control. There's an old 366 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: adage in coaching is that the only thing you have 367 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: one hundred percent control over is your own effort level 368 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: and details within the system, and taking care of those 369 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: details fall under effort level. 370 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: And what I. 371 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: See as a team that is just cleaner from the 372 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: effort and detail of the way that they're playing. Okay, 373 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: I'll ask you this question. So I there's a line 374 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: out there that therapists often use. Not that I've ever 375 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: needed one better, no, not that you've heard this one, no, no, no, 376 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: But it is your responsibility to heal the pain others 377 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: inflict on you. So the bottom line is, get over 378 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: yourself and get over it. It's still your job. No 379 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: matter how mean somebody is, how awful they are to you, 380 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: it's still your responsibility to heal pain inflicted by others. 381 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: So when quarterbacks are criticized, I'm for it because I 382 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: think the best quarterbacks in this league all had turbulence. Yeah, 383 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: and arch Manning's life is Brownie james life. What nice 384 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: road do I get to take to my school today? 385 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: It's like those are great lives. I'm not jealous. I 386 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: don't envy it, but I think Brownie James should have 387 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: stayed in college one more year. I think Arch Manning actually, 388 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to him. 389 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: It's real turbulence. Texas football receivers are hurt. On his 390 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: third string running back new on line, his mechanics are weird. 391 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: I'm going to argue this is essential if you can 392 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: make it on Sundays. Well, you don't develop in life 393 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: without turbulence. I mean, I don't think it's even just 394 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: a specific to quarterback play. I think all of us 395 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: at people need trials and tribulations in order to develop perseverance. 396 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a biblical truth that I believe in, right, 397 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: so it absolutely applies to ars. And what a quarterback 398 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: has to have that's maybe bigger and more substantial than others, 399 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: is that they have to have a complete belief and 400 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: self identity that is rooted in things that don't get 401 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: impacted from the outside. So you're not trying to prove 402 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: anything to anyone because you're comfortable with who you are 403 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: and you're not defined by anybody because you're comfortable with 404 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: who you are. And that's a learned trait and that 405 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: comes with maturity and certainly experience. At a position like that, 406 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: Arch's mechanics are not great right now. He's playing faster 407 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: than the timing of the offense. That's an offense that 408 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: is is kind of an old school not old school. 409 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: They have West Coast offense tentacles, and in the West 410 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: Coast system, from a football perspective, they go by the 411 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: equation timing plus plate spacing equals completions. Well, if you're 412 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: not getting completions, one of those two variables is off 413 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: the timing or the spacing. I watched the film, and 414 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: I think Arch is ahead of the spacing. Therefore he's rushing. 415 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: Therefore the ball tends to I would say, nose dive 416 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: and be low or away from wide receivers. He's overstriding. 417 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: As soon as he can unlock the timing piece of 418 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: the way that he plays and marry it to the 419 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: spacing of what they're trying to create on the outside, 420 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: that's when the completions and the success will start to come. 421 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: Joel Clapp Utah game this weekend. I'll take the utes 422 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: to beautiful Stadium great, beautiful Salt Lake is great. I 423 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: can't wait to get out there. It's always a great environment. Yep, 424 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: see it, buddy, appreciate you, Bud. 425 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: Have it going. Yeah. Yeah. The Harball stuff is. 426 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 1: It really is fascinating that Joel saying basically there were 427 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: two hardballs. There was pre and host And we've had 428 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Harbaugh on twice three times since he's been the Chargers coach. 429 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: He'll just talk for fifteen minutes. He'll stay on I'm 430 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes into the interview, he's like, you got 431 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: any more cartions, Like he's letting people into his life. 432 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, is that his wife or 433 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: whatever it is, whatever it is, I'd no idea. But 434 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Jim is much more uh, much more willing to give 435 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: of himself and and you know when you do that, 436 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: people give back. He's he's more fun to be around. 437 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: I asked Dean Spanos, the owner of the Chargers, a 438 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: year ago, I said, how is he in the building. 439 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: He's like unbelievable. He's just like unbelievable, and that that 440 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: wasn't always the issue. I mean he Michigan was his 441 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: alma mater, and you remember year two, three four of Michigan. 442 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: There was like, yeah, Jim's kind of intense. I don't 443 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: know if this. 444 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 5: Is going to work. 445 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: And it's like Chargers Spanos family is like now he's unbelievable. 446 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: Everybody loves him. He's like he's like boy scouting there 447 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: like just perfect attendance, rooting for everybody else. So, I mean, people, 448 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: people change, they lighten up, they chill out. 449 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays 450 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: and Newone Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 451 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 452 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 7: Hey it's me Rob Parker. 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Next hour, 461 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: Joel said, Colin, you kind of lean into personality too 462 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: much with quarterback. 463 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: And my take is I have a you. 464 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Know, like a little media company I have called the Volume, 465 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: and I don't look at resumes. 466 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: I've never looked at the resume. I don't care where 467 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: you went to college. 468 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking for people who have a skill and who 469 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: have the kind of personality they can work with others. 470 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: So I do look at personality when I'm hiring people. 471 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: Is you have to have a skill. I don't care 472 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: what your resume says. I don't care you went too pen, 473 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: I don't care. Do you have a skill that the 474 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: company can use. Your resume is not going to help you. 475 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: And do you have the kind of personality that you 476 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: can work well with others, because in our business you 477 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: have to work with a lot of people, sometimes temperamental podcasters. 478 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: And so my takeaway is the Super Bowl has a 479 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of different quarterbacks. You can be tall, you can 480 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: be short, you can run, you can be pocket. There's 481 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: a lot of different styles, shapes and sizes, but most 482 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: of the personalities are the same. Obsessed, mature, intense leaders, 483 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: comfortable with discomfort. Brady and Mahomes they're very comfortable being uncomfortable, 484 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: And so I do think the personalities they do matter. 485 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: Green Bay moved off Aaron Rodgers they got tired of 486 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: his personality. Cleveland moved off Baker same reason, and that 487 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: doesn't I've said Baker's personality fits better in Tampa. Todd 488 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Bowles high IQ, high EQ, totally chill, Hugh Jackson, Greg Williams, 489 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: A lot. 490 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 3: There's a lot. 491 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they're bad guys, but there was a lot 492 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of ego and it felt like sometimes 493 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: you know, there's an old saying spot it. 494 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 3: You got it. 495 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: Somebody with an ego is often offended very quickly by 496 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: somebody else with an ego. Todd Bowles just everything rolls off. 497 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: He kind of leans into Baker. He loves him and 498 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: lets Baker be Baker. So my point is, I think 499 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: personality matters for that position in my life of having 500 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: to hire people, personality matters. Can you get along with others? 501 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a resume watcher, you know I'm not. That 502 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: doesn't I don't. I don't care why you. 503 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: Went to school. It doesn't. 504 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean anything to me. I sometimes like somebody 505 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: who's had a harder path. So I do think with 506 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: arch Manning, it has been. It has been in the 507 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: backseat of a nice car getting driven to school until 508 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: he was like sixteen and had his license. Like it's 509 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: it's a pretty comfortable life. Ronnie James, I got nothing 510 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: against it. I don't resent it. But I think if 511 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: you look at the history at quarterbacks in this league, transferred, 512 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: beat up, hurt, bad coaching, it is a It is 513 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: a There is something to be said about struggling in college, 514 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: being doubted, being mocked, being hurt, and overcoming it that 515 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: has incredible value Jmack with the news. 516 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 2: No, no turn on the news. This is the herd 517 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 2: Line news. 518 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 8: All right, con let's start with the Packers two and zero. Obviously, 519 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 8: they are the best team in the league. They had 520 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 8: jumped the Eagles as the NFC's best bet to win 521 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 8: the Super Bowl plus six point fifty. I would not 522 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 8: recommend buying that there was better value. Two weeks ago 523 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 8: in limited action, Michael Parsons has left his mark, and 524 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 8: Jordan Love talked about what he's seen from his new 525 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 8: toomate teammate on the Rich Eisenschip. 526 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 9: Michael Parsons, He's by far one of the most competitive 527 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 9: people I've met my life, and just I think that 528 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 9: competitive nature is what he brings. Like you said, he's 529 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 9: he's aching to be able to get off that snapcount 530 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 9: and go out there and play a full game. So 531 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 9: he's asian to just go out there and be on 532 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 9: the field as much as possible. But just being around him, 533 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 9: I know what type. 534 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: Of competitive he is. 535 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 9: He wants to win everything he does, and I think 536 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 9: that's just a little mindset that he's bringing to the 537 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 9: team obviously to that room, and it's just like I said, 538 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 9: it's the effectious energy. 539 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, you have me to make a case for the 540 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: Browns here, Yeah, please do so. Both Green Bay games. 541 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 8: Were at home, obviously against teams that you know, yeah, 542 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 8: very motivated to play against. Now you step down in class, 543 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 8: go to Cleveland. Yep, right, yeah, some extra time off 544 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 8: the media heard Hierarchy has the number one. 545 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 5: You know, we're the bass. 546 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 8: We're gassed up, you know, puffing your chest out. 547 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 5: And you let your guard down a little bit. 548 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, due number. 549 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 8: The offensive line had a couple injuries against Washington. 550 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 5: I think two guys were out. 551 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 8: Now you gotta face Miles Garrett, not the easiest task 552 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 8: in the world. Jayden Reid is out for what like 553 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 8: seven weeks or something with the collarbone, so there are 554 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 8: some issues easy to overlook. I think we'll see this 555 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 8: line tick down just a little bit. I still think 556 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 8: the Packers win, but I don't think it's like a 557 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 8: thirty four to nothing rump. 558 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 6: No. 559 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: I think your point is when you face Jaden Daniels, 560 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: when you open with Detroit, you're at home. Big TV games, 561 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: standalone games. I mean they came in hot and by 562 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: the way, Jordan Love, Matt Lafleur, the receiving corps. These 563 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: guys have all been playing together, so Green Bay was 564 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: sort of a head I mean even though the youngest team, 565 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: mostly your Craft, had been there. This is his second year. 566 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: So you have this young, cohesive team. Offensive teams, clever coaching, cash, 567 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: defensive teams or defenses off guard. I think it's one 568 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: of your I think it's a really smart play at 569 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland's the side to me? 570 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you want me to add something. I just looked 571 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 5: at the schedule while you were talking. 572 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: Who's next? 573 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 5: You want to take a guess. Vikings at Dallas? 574 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 8: Okay, Mikah Carsons, you think he's maybe overlooking this game, 575 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 8: just a little bit extra motivated for the trip to 576 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 8: Dallas next week, Colin. That I mean again, I'm not 577 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 8: saying that the Browns are gonna win. They're not better, 578 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 8: but you know how the NFL works, right, Browns just 579 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 8: got smoke. What was it, forty one to ten against 580 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 8: the Ravens, and. 581 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: By if you go look at the box score that game, 582 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: the Browns out gain them. 583 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 5: They did. 584 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 585 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like Cleveland's picking up yards. If Flacco's 586 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: your quarterback, you will move the ball. 587 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 588 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 8: Next up, Miami Dolphins, Colin Miami. Oh my gosh, they 589 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 8: are reeling. They are zero to two. Listen, we talked 590 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 8: about it yesterday. This could be the final game for 591 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 8: McDaniel playing Thursday and then on Monday Night football. Josh 592 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 8: Allen has dominated Miami Are you ready for this? 593 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 5: Thirteen and two. 594 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 8: With a total of forty five touchdowns. And then Tua 595 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 8: yesterday talked about this. I don't understand why he would 596 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 8: say it, but here we go. 597 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 10: Dude, he's he's top tier. You know, if it's not 598 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 10: with his arm, it's with his legs. You know that 599 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 10: dude can do nearly anything he wants. So definitely different 600 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 10: skill set for me. I can't do half of what 601 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 10: he does when it comes to running the ball and 602 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 10: any of that. And then with how he can just 603 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 10: chuck a ball down the field, you know, with how 604 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 10: far and the arm strength that he has, you know, 605 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 10: he's supreme when it comes to that. 606 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be fun. 607 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 608 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: I think he's completely honest and self aware, like they're 609 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: different players totally. 610 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 611 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean Tom Brady can't move like Mahomes or Lamar 612 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: and has joked about it when he was playing for years, 613 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: Like Tua knows what he is, he's not. I have 614 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: a bigger problem when quarterbacks have a greater sense of 615 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: their athletic ability and think they can scramble and it's like, okay, 616 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: you can do that if you're Lamar, but you can't 617 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: do that for ninety percent of the guys in the league. 618 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 3: Two and knows what he is. He also knows what 619 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 3: he isn't. 620 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 5: Hill's twelve and a half. 621 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 8: Is this a you know, put the mortgage on it 622 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 8: kind of deal? 623 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: Just all the bills are heavily favored, they come off 624 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: a blowout when Miami is desperate. Desperate teams actually play 625 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: over their skis. Also, they know the personnel they play 626 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: them every year twice. I would say Miami feels like 627 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: a better bet, and the weather isn't brutal yet. So 628 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: my take is Miami's probably the play. 629 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 630 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 8: I made the case for them last week against Patriots, 631 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 8: and I liked the Dolphins and for them to be 632 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 8: unable to stop that offense was a little scary given 633 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 8: up thirty three points. They were outplayed on special teams. 634 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 8: I don't know where they're good. Feels like the last 635 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 8: Dand for mister McDaniel, final story, Colin is Sunday on Fox, 636 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 8: We've got a clash of the undefeated teams, rematch of 637 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 8: the NFC Divisional Round Rams Eagles in Philadelphia. 638 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 5: Sean McVeigh is injured. 639 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 8: I think you joked about this yesterday, but he was 640 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 8: hurt during their victory. 641 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 5: Yes, a coach injured. 642 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 11: I did tear my planner fascist so no, yeah, well 643 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 11: that's a good thing because now I guess it allows 644 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 11: you to heal a little bit faster. But you know, 645 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 11: I was being dramatic limping around towards the end of 646 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 11: the game. But you know, the the MRI confirmed I 647 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 11: did that. But good news is I'm not playing, so 648 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 11: I'm just on the sidelines watching. 649 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: He is such a good coach. 650 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 5: Like that guy. 651 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: He is so good from the opening press conference on 652 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: he is such a good coach. 653 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 8: I got some troubling numbers on the Eagles, so I'll 654 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 8: ask you if I like them. 655 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: By the way, the Rams plus three and a half. 656 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: It's my second favorite bet on the board this. 657 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 5: Week, and if you wait too long, that's going to 658 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 5: be gone. It'll be free. But who has the better offense? 659 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: Colin? 660 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 5: Going into this game, I. 661 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 1: Believe offenses start, you know, with your offensive line so 662 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: and by the way, when the Rams is healthy, it's good. 663 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: But the Eagles O line kind of changes games now. 664 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Stafford throwing it, receiving corps. Davante Adams now is a 665 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: real thing. Phoka Nakua. This Jordan Whittingham kid, the second 666 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: year player around of Texas is like productive. 667 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: Their running back room is good. 668 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: The Rams have a lot of depth, but I don't 669 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: think toe to tow offensive liner Saquon Kiren's good. 670 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: He's not Saquon So. 671 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,239 Speaker 8: The Eagles through two games have the fewest plays in 672 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 8: the league of fifteen yards or more. They only have five. 673 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 8: That's it against Dallas and the Chiefs. 674 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 5: Colin. 675 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 8: They don't look explosive. I mean, you're trying to get 676 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 8: aj Brown traded here. By the way, Eagles fans are 677 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 8: not happy with you for that. I'm sure you're aware 678 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 8: or don't care, but I just I don't see the explosiveness. 679 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 8: Saquon Barkley can't get LuSE he's. 680 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 5: Like three and a half yards of carry or whatever. 681 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: I think. 682 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 5: I'm with you. 683 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: I like the Rams here, yeah, I mean, Pouka is 684 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: off to a great start. 685 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: You know. 686 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: The Davante Adams acquisition, like you know, people just kind 687 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: of forgot about him. Yeah, I mean three years ago 688 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: we were saying he was the third or fourth best 689 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: receiver in the league. And he's not noticeably slower. So, 690 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing about the Rams, they have 691 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: drafted exceptionally well on defense. They've had a few misses 692 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: on offense. But if you look at pooka fifth round 693 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: and then Tygler Higgby, the Higgby the tight ends a 694 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: middle round guy, and then Kyron Williams was a fourth 695 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: or a fifth round guy, and their left tackle is 696 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: undrafted and Stafford is one of the oldest quarterbacks in 697 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: the league. They haven't drafted as well offensively. Jordan Winningham 698 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver who has pop now sixth rounder out of Texas. 699 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 1: McVeigh polls more talent is there a team in the league. 700 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: I mean Saquon was great, you know, a J Brown, great, 701 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: Davonte Smith. Those are Heisman winners and first round guys. 702 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: You start looking at the Rams offense. Outside of Stafford, 703 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: who again is older, there are a lot of mid 704 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: round guys crushing They have drafted high with defense and 705 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: hit on them. A lot of it is mcveigh's magic. Offensively, 706 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of fourth and fifth and sixth round 707 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: guys doing great things with the Rams on offense. 708 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 8: Remember how bad the Cowboys were picking on the the 709 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 8: Eagles second cornerback. Remember they don't have a number two cornerback, 710 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 8: so either Pooka or DeVante's in line for a big game. 711 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 8: And by the way, you're you've been hyping up the 712 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 8: Rams defense. That was spot on. This will be the 713 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 8: toughest defense Eagles have faced in a while. Okay, probably 714 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 8: since last year's playoff game. 715 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: No, it's it's the real deal. Between Green Bay's offense 716 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: and the Rams defense, both are unbelievable. And you're not 717 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,479 Speaker 1: really paying anybody. I mean, Jordan Love makes good money, 718 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: one of their guards does. And on the defensive side, 719 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: they you know, they pay us safety a little money. 720 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: But the Rams defense and the Packers offense, it's just drafting. Well, 721 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: they've just hit on seven or eight really really good players. 722 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: J McK with a new Well. 723 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: That's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd 724 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 2: line news. 725 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: Even Cooper cut was a third round pick. It's just 726 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: every they just it's just working. Magic McVeigh has worked 727 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: as Magic was second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth round guys 728 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: drafted on that offense. 729 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live edition of The Herd weekdays 730 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: at noon Easter n a em Pacific on Fox Sports 731 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 732 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 8: Tomorrow, it's a special Baseball Night in America on Fox 733 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 8: as Aaron Judge and the Yankees look to stay in 734 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 8: the hunt for an Alias crown against the Orioles for 735 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 8: the Cubs in Reds battle for positioning in the NL 736 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 8: Wild Card. Check local listings for the game in your 737 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 8: area Tomorrow, six thirty Eastern on Fox. 738 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about I saw this rating. Fox 739 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: got a thirty four million people watch the Chiefs and 740 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles. Baseball has done a great job making changes. 741 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: They've all worked speeding up the game ten percent attendance increase, 742 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: ten percent ratings increase, created more events. But I was 743 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: telling the staff this morning, baseball still needs to make 744 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: one big move and eliminate forty games, play one hundred 745 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: and twenty games. It's not going to take that long 746 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: to figure out the Dodgers are better than the Twins. 747 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: You don't need one hundred and sixty games, you really don't, 748 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: and then you'd start playoffs in like late August because 749 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: playoffs starting, you know, late September, early October. I mean, 750 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: look at the crowds for football. There's so much momentum 751 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: now you forget baseball's being played. I watched Sports Center 752 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: in the morning. I get on the treadmill, I watch it, 753 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: but it's like my mind immediately goes to football. Once 754 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: you get like to the second week of the NFL, 755 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to go back with other sports. And the 756 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: NFL is done. Some of it's just circumstantial. It's like 757 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: it feels like every other league is kind of fighting 758 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: uphill by the twenty first century viewing habits of Americans 759 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: except the NFL and the World Cup, where it's like 760 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,240 Speaker 1: they're big events. Every NFL weekend feels like a big event. 761 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: Every early window on red Zone, I'm sitting there like 762 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait, counting down into a big event Monday 763 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: through Friday. Sports, hockey, baseball, basketball, There's too many games. 764 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: They They are increasingly international. You know, the NFL is 765 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 1: domestic is it is flag waving and the world really 766 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: moved into a global is a period. Now it's moving 767 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: back pivoting to a nationalistic nationalism is on the rise 768 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: in Europe and in America and waving the flag. I'm 769 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: sorry it's back in, but these numbers are I mean, 770 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: baseball's fighting an uphill battle. If you're going to start 771 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs in late September or October, good luck. Because 772 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: college football, when it gets into week four and you 773 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: get into conference play, those saturdays are big. Those numbers 774 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: go up. I'm watching the college and the Pro football 775 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: numbers World Series to start October twenty fourth. You also 776 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: have rainouts that can push it into November. Well that's 777 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: football season. So NBA's back at that point. So I 778 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: think baseball's done a good job. But you're asking me 779 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: if I can make a change, and they've made several 780 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: lop off forty games twenty per ower, like start two 781 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: weeks later, get out of the rain outs, and then 782 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: end a month sooner. You got to get some momentum 783 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: by Labor Day weekend because it's just really easy to 784 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: forget about it. Okay, NFL Week three, here are the games, Jmac. 785 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: I think you and I last week we were aligned 786 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 1: on a lot, although I kicked myself not taking Arizona 787 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: against the Panthers, and then the Panthers had a back 788 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: door cover, But I do think I like the Rams 789 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: plus the points against Philadelphia, a team that's not throwing 790 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. I think Cleveland's actually the 791 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: play against Green Bay, not to win the game, but points. 792 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: The game that I find fascinating is Dallas, who has 793 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: looked way better than expected in Chicago that hasn't That 794 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: game now is virtually a pick them, and Chicago's not 795 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: ever been a great home field advantage. The weather is 796 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: still good. That line is puzzling. I have a hard 797 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: time talking myself into the Bears over the Cowboys both weekends. 798 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: For both weekends I've watched out the Thursday night game, 799 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: excuse me, and last weekend. The offense is humming. There 800 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: are more weapons that I thought. George Pickens has been nice. 801 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: Jamont Hey Williams, the running back, has found creases. They 802 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: don't make a lot of mistakes. Their clock management's been better. 803 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't find a lot of things I don't like 804 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: about Dallas. In fact, I said yesterday Dallas is my 805 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: surprise team in the league. They are significantly better than 806 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: I thought. Can you sell me on the Bears. 807 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 8: That's a tough one, man. I don't have a strong 808 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 8: opinion who's winning that game? It feels like a toss up, right, 809 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 8: I mean the Bears have played two playoff teams from 810 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 8: a year ago, right, Vikings and Lions, so like they've 811 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 8: they've actually faced tough defenses. I don't know that the 812 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 8: Cowboys defense is that good. I'm looking at your Seahawks. 813 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 8: I know you're in the Northwest Seahawks Saints. How does 814 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 8: Spencer Rattler, remember he's had two games at home. How 815 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 8: does he go on the road and do anything against 816 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 8: the defense that bottle up Aaron Rodgers In that second half? 817 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 8: Seattle outscored them twenty four to three in the second half. 818 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, why doesn't Seattle just pick their number and destroy 819 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 5: the same here? 820 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 3: Oh well, I like Seattle. That's a good guy. 821 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 5: Does that feel like a layup or. 822 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: There are no layups? 823 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: But I would say you're on the right track, which 824 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: is I think Seattle's defense I mean bottled up brock 825 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: Party and last week mostly bottled up Aaron Rodgers. I 826 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: think at home, getting a little chilly in the Northwest, 827 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: they'll bottle up Spencer Ratler. Hour three