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Speaker 1: Morning combat, instant analysis reaction immediately lee after Alexander Usik,

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Speaker 1: your former undisputed cruiser weight king, moving up to heavyweight

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Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua. It all went down at Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium

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Speaker 1: That's the UK and that's aj in the main event.

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Speaker 1: And guys, we got exactly which you would want from this.

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Speaker 1: What's this heavyweight boxing at the highest level, when you're

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Speaker 1: de facto semi final with Joshua Usik today Wilder Fury

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Speaker 1: Now I don't know what we're gonna get. And I

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Speaker 1: Well not because of that, but how could you deny

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Speaker 1: All right, back to this fight. The judges didn't screw him,

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Speaker 1: So how did Usik do this? Guys? It was masterful

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Speaker 1: you know, like there's Tyson Fury and there's Alexandrusic and

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Speaker 1: everyone else came to the sport late or is more

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Speaker 1: of a bruiser. And that's the weird thing about this

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Button heavyweight Boxing division. Boxing is the only sport

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Speaker 1: that has aged in reverse. Like, you know, I say

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Speaker 1: this comparison all the time. George Michen may have been

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Speaker 1: great in the nineteen fifties, you know, maybe be in

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Speaker 1: the big the big man of the NBA. Bro, he's

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Speaker 1: not guard to the you know, nineteen ninety nine or

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two shack. He's not doing it. It's

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Speaker 1: not happening, you know, like the era has changed. The

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Speaker 1: skills evolved, the preparation evolved, genetics evolved, everything evolved, Right,

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Speaker 1: Mike is probably smoking cigarettes a halftime. Okay, it's not happening.

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Speaker 1: Get in boxing because of the diluted amateur system over

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Speaker 1: the years for the Olympics, because there's not a boxing

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Speaker 1: gym on every corner like there was, you know in

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Speaker 1: the fifties, sixties and seventies, and you know, it's still

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Speaker 1: the outlet for poor kids, you know, especially from other

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Speaker 1: countries to sort of, you know, make a run at

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Speaker 1: fame and sport and all that. But I wonder if

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Speaker 1: it's the wake up and realization over the past twenty

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Speaker 1: thirty years when you see Muhammad Ali in interviews when

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Speaker 1: he's in his forties and fifties, see Thomas Hernon, I mean,

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Speaker 1: guys are punched, They're beaten up from being great. They're

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Speaker 1: absolutely beaten up. And I think that's fueled the boxing

449
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Speaker 1: businessman error right now. And you see guys like even

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Speaker 1: Keith Thurman get to a fame level and then they

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Speaker 1: kind of stop wanting to challenge themselves convinced consistently. But

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Speaker 1: it also has created a scenario where you know, people

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Speaker 1: aren't growing up saying I want to become a boxer.

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Speaker 1: They tend to, like Deontay Wilder, fall into it when

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Speaker 1: when all the other avenues of college football or college

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Speaker 1: basketball whatever fall apart. So they just aren't great boxers

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Speaker 1: and that's maybe why AJ who's just a great athlete,

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Speaker 1: is able to beat most of them. But ye ain't

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Speaker 1: beat in Fury and he ain't be in USIC with

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Speaker 1: that style. And I think sometimes AJ doesn't realize that

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Speaker 1: in some fights he's going to have to be the

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Speaker 1: bruiser and the puncher and he's going to have to

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Speaker 1: go after it. And I think he will in the rematch.

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a better performance. AJ

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Speaker 1: is always going to be vulnerable, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: all heavyweights are vulnerable. Even the great Tyson Fury was

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Speaker 1: knocked down twice against Wilder. I mean, this is heavyweight boxing.

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Speaker 1: This is why we love it. So tonight was a

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Speaker 1: monster win for Usik, yes, but for heavyweights, for boxing,

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Speaker 1: and I think AJ saved face more than maybe his

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Speaker 1: critics will will. We'll say he did go twelve rounds hard.

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Speaker 1: He was in this fight on the scorecards more or less.

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Speaker 1: Despite me saying the strategy needs needs a look at.

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Speaker 1: I know there's always been pressure, especially after the loss

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Speaker 1: to Ruiz, that AJ dropped Rob McCracken and get a

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Speaker 1: new trainer and all this stuff. I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the answer. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I needed to to. I don't know. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to say. I want to say I need I needed

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Speaker 1: him to make an important change midway field. It's been

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Speaker 1: hyper critical he was in this fight. He did make

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Speaker 1: the change to get back into this fight. I don't

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Speaker 1: think though a lot of us I did because I

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Speaker 1: predicted it. But I don't think a lot of us

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Speaker 1: thought Usik had that metal in him though, because every

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Speaker 1: time Joshua did make a run in the second half

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Speaker 1: or have a great round, you know, and round eight

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Speaker 1: it was great, run nine he was great. But then

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Speaker 1: round ten comes around and Usik's backing him up again.

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Speaker 1: Usik was able to tiptoe the scary era areas of

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Speaker 1: this fight where his stamina went down, where he did

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Speaker 1: get caught by a couple of big shots, but he

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Speaker 1: never let him get self get caught by the big shot,

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Speaker 1: the one that dropped him or the one that finished him.

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Speaker 1: And you want to know what Usik's made of, you

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Speaker 1: watch round twelve over again. No one really knows where

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Speaker 1: we're out in the scorecards entering round twelve. I think

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Speaker 1: AJ needs to be dramatic. I also fully are preparing

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Speaker 1: for Usik to lose by majority decision or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and yet Usik steps on the gas and comes out

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Speaker 1: quickly with left hands, and by the last thirty seconds

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Speaker 1: he's got Aj on the ropes looking like he's ready

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Speaker 1: to get him out of there. I counted. I think

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Speaker 1: it was a nine punch combination that Usak hit in succession,

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Speaker 1: and you know, not super hard shots, but he's touch

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Speaker 1: and touch and touch him, trying to set him up

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Speaker 1: for that big one, and you had Aj like bewildered afterwards.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a real fighter, man, Usik, that's a real champion.

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Speaker 1: You know, like the story like you fell. Oh, I felt

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Speaker 1: like the story was already written. Okay, Usik, It's cool

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Speaker 1: that you're the cruiserweight on disputed champion, but these are

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Speaker 1: the super heavyweights. Bro. You came close. You showed out

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Speaker 1: in the opening rounds. You can't do this over twelve, No,

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Speaker 1: he can, and you know, could he do it again

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Speaker 1: the second time? Yeah? Yeah he can. I'm interested to

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Speaker 1: see what the betting odds would be though, if he'll

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Speaker 1: be at the actual favorite only because Aj, when you

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Speaker 1: carry that punching ability in that athleticism. AJ's only thirty one,

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Speaker 1: so let's not try to say he's washed or count

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Speaker 1: him out too far. Whatever. Lennox Lewis lost twice by

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Speaker 1: the way guys in a tough era got stopped twice.

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Speaker 1: He also avenged both losses and rematches by knockouts. So

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Speaker 1: you know, aj may may be our Lenux luisive this era.

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Speaker 1: It's not as good as Linx by any means, but

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Speaker 1: you know, he may be our version of that. Let's

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Speaker 1: give him that chance. He may end up being even

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Speaker 1: money or a slight favorite over Usik, but Usik's in play.

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Speaker 1: They have a great shot at winning that fight. Can

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Speaker 1: he Usik beat Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder, that that'd

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Speaker 1: be theater man. You know, he'd have a better chance

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Speaker 1: against wild They're given that. The gap in boxing ability

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Speaker 1: comparative to what we just saw tonight would be much wider.

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Speaker 1: But while they're also you know, you know, full round

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Speaker 1: either and you can get you out of there by

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Speaker 1: tapping you. And you know, in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: Usik does all the or Fury does all the great things.

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Speaker 1: Zusik does just framed out to six foot nine, So

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Speaker 1: that's that's an uphill battle. But for now, Usik climbed

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Speaker 1: the mountain in a second division and unified titles in

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Speaker 1: a second division he's a special fighter. He's undefeated. He

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Speaker 1: was already in my top ten pounds for pound, and

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Speaker 1: this type of win, you know, it's cements him if

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Speaker 1: he had any doubt. I can't wait for two weeks

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Speaker 1: from now, wild they're Fury three. Can't wait for the future.

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Speaker 1: If you're wondering on numbers here, Usik outpointed Joshua according

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Speaker 1: to CompuBox, one forty eight to one twenty three seems

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Speaker 1: about right. And I really thought, you know that, as

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Speaker 1: much as you could give Joshua some rounds in the

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Speaker 1: middle championship rounds all, we're all, Lusik. It's what great

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Speaker 1: fighters do, know this man. And I think the more

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Speaker 1: that you follow him on Instagram, the more that you

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Speaker 1: get into who this guy is. He's freaking hilarious. You know,

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Speaker 1: he wore the joker suit at the press conference this

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Speaker 1: week for a reason. He's he's a good guy. He's

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Speaker 1: a he's a god fearing man and a family man.

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Speaker 1: And you heard him say all about that about the rematch, Like, nah, bro,

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Speaker 1: I've been training since in January. I gotta get back

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Speaker 1: to my wife and kids. We'll talk rematch down the road.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't respect that he seems to be

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Speaker 1: a guy who's who's the you know as a man

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Speaker 1: is the real deal there too. It's a great generational fighter.

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Speaker 1: And the fact now that in this era we've got

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Speaker 1: a few of them. I love it. I mean I

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Speaker 1: love this ship, you know, I love that. I love it.

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Speaker 1: So uh, this is Ben Brian Campbell getting you, you know,

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Speaker 1: really excited about the future at heavyweight. Uh, salute to

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Speaker 1: to to Usk, Salute to AJ and defeat. He will

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Speaker 1: come back stronger. I expect this rematch to be a

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Speaker 1: different fight when we do when in you know, when

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Speaker 1: we do see it and we will and salute to

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Speaker 1: the next you know, nine to twelve months of heavyweight boxing.

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Speaker 1: We here. We're not going anywhere. I know, the devil,

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Speaker 1: the boxing devil over my shoulder. That be out just saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, somebody will pop for for uh for columbuterol soon,

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Speaker 1: somebody will get COVID. I mean, you know whatever, But uh,

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Speaker 1: we can celebrate tonight. So h thank you for watching.

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Speaker 1: Like and subscribe if you like what we do here.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot more. In fact, you're gonna you're gonna

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Speaker 1: love the way it looks on you. I guarantee it.

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Speaker 1: My name is Brian Campbell and I approved this video.

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