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Thanks for making us part 12 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: of your day. College football playoffs starts Friday. Joe Klatt Today, 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: Todd mcshae on the very real, very real reality for 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. They'll have the number one pick 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: and may have to decide between Jackson Dart and Fernando Mendoza. 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: You know what side I'm on? I want to I 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: want to start the show with. This is h J 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: McK and I front and center. Every day we put 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: our face on our opinions, and the internet is mostly 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: about Captain Hindsight's afg's after the fact geniuses. Everybody's so 21 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: smart after the fact, But I want to talk about 22 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Ram Seahawks. I want you to think about this because 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: it feels so obvious. What I'm going to say right 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: now feel so obvious. I mean, you guys knew it 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: would work. The Rams had a Pro Bowl quarterback in 26 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Jared Goff who'd been to a Super Bowl, just entering 27 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: his prime, and Sean McVay said, you know, I'm gonna 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: give up two first round picks. I'm gonna pay Jared 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Goff salary and the new guys salary, and i want 30 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford with a losing record in Detroit, who in 31 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: twelve years had never won a playoff game, had only 32 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: made it three times, and was zero to three. And 33 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you look at the numbers of Matt Stafford. 34 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: They're totally unremarkable. And that's with the second greatest receiving 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: talent I've ever seen, behind Randy Moss in Calvin Johnson. 36 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: So he had the ultimate number one receiver. He was 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: seventy four and ninety completed sixty two percent of his throws, 38 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: his passer rating in the eighties, and did not have 39 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: a two to one touchdown interception ratio. 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: With Calvin Johnson. 41 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: And uh, Sean McVay is like, yeah, I'm gonna pay 42 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: his salary. I'm gonna pay Jared goff salary. Stafford's had 43 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: the you know what beat out of him for twelve years, 44 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: never won a playoff game. Goff just made the Super Bowl. Yeah, 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: let's pull a trigger on that. That is a big 46 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: front and center swing by Les Snead and Sean McVay. 47 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: And it's the kind of move first year in I mean, 48 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Stafford still led the NFL and interceptions. He and McVay 49 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: were trying to figure it out as the season was 50 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: going on. 51 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: So it's easy. 52 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Now to go, I knew this thing would be money, dude. 53 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: It never won a playoff game. Average quarterbacks in average 54 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: franchises in twelve years will win a playoff game. And 55 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: it's the same with John Snyder the Seattle GM. Pete 56 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: Carroll very popular in Seattle, two Super bowls, had a 57 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: trophy beloved, had just had another winning season, and John 58 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Snyder fired him off a winning season. The most popular 59 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: coacher manager in Seattle maybe ever fired him and John 60 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: Snider also was Sam Darnald irrupting in those games remember 61 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: against the Rams and against the Lions. Everybody was like, 62 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: that's who Donald is. Oh, that's who Sammy is. Stay away, 63 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: and Snyder goes, no, I'm gonna pay hi pretty good money. 64 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Sam Darnold. So the Stafford move 65 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: looks brilliant today. You thought he was gonna at this age. 66 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 3: What is he? Thirty seven? 67 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: This is what it was gonna look like after getting that, 68 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,799 Speaker 1: you know what kicked out of him in Detroit seventy 69 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: four and ninety twelve years no play, I'm gonna pay 70 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: for golf and Stafford and to first fixed golf was 71 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: really good. I saw golf go toe to toe in 72 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: La and beat Mahomes. Remember that game Coliseum. So that's 73 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: a lot more courage front and center. No troll, not 74 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: anonymous right out in front and John Snyder. Pete Carroll 75 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: was beloved in Seattle. People moved on from Russell Wilson 76 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: and then moved on from Pete. 77 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: Fired him. 78 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Seattle gets better, and not only does he fire Pete 79 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: carrolleff winning season, he hires another defensive coordinator, Mike McDonald. 80 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: You would think you'd be like, okay, the old defensive guy, 81 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: league's pivoting offense. 82 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: John, You got to. 83 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: Get an offensive guy. He's like, no, I'm gonna go 84 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: defense again. And I think tonight Sean McVay is arguably 85 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: the best coach in the league. And I think Mike 86 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: McDonald is the defensive Sean McVay. But this game tonight 87 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: is about big swings, doing unpopular things. Things people scratch 88 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: their head on. Acquiring turnover prone Sam Donald, hiring another 89 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: defensive coach, firing Pete of a winning season. You're gonna 90 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: pay for Stafford and Goff twelve years, no playoff wins, 91 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: zero to three, Fortune favors the bold. I don't know 92 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: who wins tonight, but I know Matt Stafford at his age, 93 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: These Thursday night games are tough physically. 94 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's the most difficult part, especially 95 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 4: this late in the season. You know, going into our 96 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 4: what is it, our fifteenth game, will be playing and 97 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: you got fourteen under the belt, and then trying to 98 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: turn around and play in a couple of days is tough, 99 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: especially for somebody as old as I am. So that's 100 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing. Obviously, got a great opponent that 101 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: we're playing in a tough environment as well. That not 102 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: to be discounted but for personally, for me, it's it's 103 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: physically it's probably the toughest part. 104 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: Two great rosters, great coaches and great gms too. So 105 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. They are estimating now in quotations ballpark rehab 106 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: is going to take nine months. He'll be back sometime 107 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: in September to play again. The league is better with Mahomes. 108 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: He's one of the all time talents. But I was 109 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: thinking about this this morning taking the train into work. 110 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: That's who I am, a rugged sportscaster. So when Tom 111 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Brady was in his prime, it almost ticked me off 112 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: that the minute another quarterback who was elite had a 113 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: great year or year and a half run, they were 114 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: better than Brady. Remember when Aaron Rodgers wins the Super 115 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty ten, twenty eleven, he's the MVP, and 116 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: suddenly there was a chorus of fans and media saying 117 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: Aaron's better. And I'm like, Brady's got three super Bowls 118 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: in counting and two MVP. 119 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: What are you talking about now? Aaron? Aaron is the man? Okay, 120 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: I don't agree with that. 121 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: And then when Peyton Manning when he won the Super 122 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: Bowl in Denver and was named the MVP. Remember that 123 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: year he beat Brady in the playoffs twenty fifteen, and 124 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: I love Peyton Manning top five quarterback. Ever, everybody was like, 125 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: he's got Tommy's number. He you know what, let's be 126 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: honest about it. He changed the league, not Brady. I'm like, 127 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: Brady's got four super Bowls in counting. Because Tom's stylistically, 128 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: it was harder to fall in love with. Even Belichick 129 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: had a crush on second round picked Jimmy Garoppolo for 130 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: about two three years. I remember reading an article by 131 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: or a book by Seth Wickersham, great writer, and there 132 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: were anonymous sources in the building saying, well, it's a 133 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: lot of system. It's the system. You know, a lot 134 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 1: of guys could win here in Foxborough. It wasn't until 135 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: Brady went to Tampa with the five hundred Buccaneers won 136 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: a title with Arians that everybody finally acknowledged that day, 137 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: as he's drinking margaritas and almost through the trophy into 138 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,359 Speaker 1: the pond, everybody went, yeah, it was Tommy, not Belichick. 139 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: And so I do think style drives the NBA discussion, 140 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: but it matters in the NFL too. Aaron looks cooler 141 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: Elway was always better than Marino, but Marino looked cooler. 142 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes, He's got a cool and that's why 143 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: we have so much reluctance to acknowledge the clear and 144 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: absolute truth the last two years, Mahomes is not even 145 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: in Josh Allen's league. It ain't close. Josh is bigger 146 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: and stronger. I'll throw the numbers on the screen if 147 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: you go to passer rating in the second half and 148 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: overtime in the last two years, Allen's number two, Mahomes 149 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: is twenty fourth. And by the way, Mahomes has better 150 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: receiving targets. The Bills receiver stink. They play in worse weather, 151 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: believe it or not, than Kansas City. They have a 152 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: defensive coach, not Andy Reid. The last two years. One 153 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: guy is significantly bigger, stronger, more productive than the other. 154 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: But we like Mahomes and we like Aaron and we 155 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: love Marino. It looks cool, and cool matters a lot 156 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: in basketball's culture, not nearly as much in the football culture. 157 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: But Josh Allen's pretty cool too, and Brady stacking trophies 158 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty cool too. I just appreciate that Sean McDermott, 159 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: a defensive guy with a smile on his face realizes 160 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: what he has. 161 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 5: I want to pull up the family scrapbook and we 162 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: can just sit down and kind of kumbaya and just 163 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: pay through everyone of Josh's days in the journey here. 164 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 5: Some of the things he's done are unprecedented in terms 165 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 5: of what a quarterback has been able to accomplish over 166 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 5: the years, and the ways he's done it, and the 167 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: way he and most importantly right now is leading our 168 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 5: football team. 169 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: And I know some of you will say, Colin, the 170 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: reason we're reluctant is all those trophies, exactly the reason 171 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: that it used to drive me nuts that people wouldn't 172 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: give Brady as flowers because he had all the trophies too, 173 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: And you were more than willing to say, Aaron's it. 174 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: Peyton's the guy, so don't give me the trophy argument. 175 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: You never use that with Brady because Brady didn't play 176 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: a cool football. But he's the best pre snap quarterback 177 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: arguably ever, best post snap quarterback ever, the best cold 178 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: weather it thrower ever, the smartest quarterback ever, the best 179 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: clutch quarterback ever. Right now, the best football player in 180 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: the world is in Buffalo, and it's not particularly close. 181 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: A lot of stuff today, Greg Cosel, Joel Klatt. I 182 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: think I've switched my pick. I think I like Oklahoma 183 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: over Alabama. I know I've gone back and forth on 184 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: that puppy. 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He's brutally honest the 204 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and this is not easy to do are 205 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: thirty second in the NFL dead last and past defense, 206 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: thirty first overall in defense, and they have some talent. 207 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: They weren't good with Micah, they're not good without it. Again, 208 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: this is not just a Mica thing. They're better defending 209 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: the run now with Quinn Williams and Kenny Clark. That's 210 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: about all they do pretty well. And so he called 211 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: out Matt Eberfluse, his defensive coordinator. With that Texas stroll, 212 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: it was just perfect. 213 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 6: Saint mich Will always saying that about these quarterbacks, some 214 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 6: of them that haven't played as well, but when they 215 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 6: play us, they played better. I think that's telling too, 216 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 6: So Candy lead to just be very fun about it. 217 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 6: I think if we could have I've gotten this defense 218 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 6: in better shape earlier, that we could be sitting here 219 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 6: with them catam wins, it would have not had us 220 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 6: in this TI spot. 221 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Dallas does need to address the secondary, but 222 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: the defense should not be thirty second against the pass. 223 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: This is and it's a reminder. This is the biggest 224 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: off season for Dallas probably in a decade. Number One, 225 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: they've got a really good quarterback and he's going to 226 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: be thirty three next season. So he's at the very 227 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: end of his prime and he's had a couple surgeries. 228 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: So you've got the elite quarterback, but he'd getting old quick. 229 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: Number two is Dallas has a pair of first round picks. 230 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: Go look at what Seattle did the last time they 231 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: had him. JSN Witherspoon nailed. Both changed the secondary, change 232 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: the receiving corps. Dallas hasn't had two first round picks 233 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight. Number three, if you name 234 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the top ten to twelve coaches in the NFL, yours 235 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. 236 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Not close. 237 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: So and you look at the teams in the NFC 238 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: that you feel better than today, like Washington, Oh they 239 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: get Jayden Daniels back, and like Minnesota. Oh wait, JJ McCarthy, 240 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: just ate you alive. Oh the Giants could land number 241 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: one pick Fernando Mendoza, best best number one prospect quarterback 242 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: you know, certainly in a short list last ten years, 243 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: and one of the better ones. So let me ask 244 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: Dallas when Kevin Stefanski. Probably when not if I wouldn't 245 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: do it, but they will. The Browns fire Kevin Stefanski. 246 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: Are you ready, Jerry to outbid three teams for him 247 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: because he's going to be the best coach on the market. 248 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: You passed on Ben Johnson, He's doing well up north. 249 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: Check the standings. Also, if you fire Matt Eberflus, and 250 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: from what you just said sounds like you're headed in 251 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: that direction, you will be on your fourth defensive coordinator 252 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: in four years. So add this next season, the Cowboys 253 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: face the NFC West McVeigh and the Rams McDonald and 254 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and a healthier forty nine ers than Kyle Shanahan. 255 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: This is a huge offseason for Dallas. They got to 256 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: get the coach right. They got to nail those first 257 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: two picks. They got to make sure that offensive line 258 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: can protect protect thirty three year old Dak Prescott because 259 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: that schedule. 260 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: Is going to be unrelenting. Jayden Daniels is back. 261 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: The Giants could have the best quarterback under twenty three 262 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: in the league. It's all coming. A lot of things 263 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: worked in your favor this year, not next year. Jmck 264 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: with the news, No, no. 265 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. 266 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: All right, let's bust right into it. 267 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts in the Eagles, coming off a big win 268 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 8: over the Raiders, Jalen Hurts is running a little bit more. 269 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 8: We touched on this colin. It seems like they're getting 270 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 8: more quarterback design runs. And if you remember the Buffalo 271 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 8: Bills have done this with Alan and saved them for 272 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 8: the high leverage games late in the season. 273 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: Well, Greg Olsen was on the call for. 274 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 8: Raiders Eagles last week and he was getting a bird's 275 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 8: eye view of Hurts this game, and he thinks there's 276 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 8: going to be a lot more Hurts running in the 277 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 8: near future. 278 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 9: Outside of last week's game. They've been saving it. They 279 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 9: haven't really done it at all. I mean, going into 280 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 9: last week's game, there was not real heavy volume in 281 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 9: any way. Critical moments of the game, fresh cat, fresh 282 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 9: set of downs, convert in the red zone, gotta have 283 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 9: it moments. Jalen Hurts in the gun as a designed 284 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 9: runner is a huge weapon for the Eagles. 285 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's hard. Sean Payton's been better when Poe 286 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: Nicks is allowed to run, Like sometimes the running quarterbacks 287 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: freeze up everything. 288 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, I totally miss this in the handicap because we've 289 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 8: called this on Alan the last couple of year. It's 290 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 8: very clear his trend is don't run a lot early 291 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 8: in the season unless you play the Chiefs and you 292 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 8: got to have it or the Ravens save it for 293 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 8: the end. You don't want your body to break down. 294 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 8: And I just wonder hearing Olsen is the same thing 295 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 8: going to be. 296 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: True with Hurtz. 297 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 8: This is kind of a This is kind of a 298 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 8: big game for them against Washington. I see some people 299 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 8: out there advocating for the Commanders. I don't get it. 300 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 8: If the Eagles win this, Colin Dallas is done. Season over. 301 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 8: You've got two weeks to rest up every lane. Johnson, 302 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 8: we don't need to rush you back. Like I think 303 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 8: this is a big game for Philly. I think they 304 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 8: show well here. 305 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think there. 306 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's some analytic proof that the smart way 307 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: to do it in this league is distribute early. But 308 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: for the big active quarterbacks move late. I've noticed this 309 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert against the Eagles and against the Chiefs, 310 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Like Justin, we know you're banged up, we need first downs, 311 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: we have to beat these teams, and you put it 312 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: out there. I mean, that's the advantage to having a 313 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, a durable quarterback is we're gonna ask more 314 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: of you when the weather gets bad. We can't throw 315 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: down the feet as accurately. That's three and the old 316 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: lines are all beat up in November and December. That's 317 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: why the quarterbacks, the superstars get paid. The Herberts and 318 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: the Allens and Jalen Hurts get paid. 319 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 8: And if you want to see just how bad the 320 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 8: numbers have been, Hurts has career lows Colin in rushes 321 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 8: per game, rushing yards per game, and rushing touchdowns since 322 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 8: he became a starter. 323 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 3: That's glaring. So you want to know what's wrong with 324 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: the offense. They're saving Jalen Hurts. Damn it. 325 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 8: I can't believe we missed this earlier in the year. 326 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 8: All Right, let's move on to the Chicago Bears against 327 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 8: the Packers. It's a humongous rematch from two weeks ago. 328 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 8: Very impressive win for the Packers, but they are up 329 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 8: against it this week. Look at the line Colin Bears 330 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 8: favored by one and a half. Here's Lafleur talking about 331 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 8: Ben Johnson and how he's turned things around in Chicago. 332 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 10: I think he's done a great job of putting the 333 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 10: quarterback in a lot of great positions, and then the 334 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 10: quarterback's gone out there and executed. So I think their 335 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 10: run game's been definitely a catalyst for the offense in 336 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 10: terms of what they've been able to do. They do 337 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 10: a great job with both those backs. I think the 338 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 10: offensive line, they come off the ball, their physical they've 339 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 10: upgraded obviously the talent there, and then they got weapons 340 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 10: on the perimeter. 341 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't forget the first thing Ben 342 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: Johnson did. This was the first thing McVeigh did with 343 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: LA got Andrew Whitworth left tackle from Cincinnati. Cheap Cincinnati. 344 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: What is what's the first thing Ben Johnson did? Drew Dolman, 345 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: Joe Toney, Jonah Jackson didn't want people at Caleb William's 346 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: feet all the meanwhile, Pete Carroll once again raiders lowest 347 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: redded offensive line. These defensive coaches can struggle with that stuff. 348 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: The offensive guys, you know, Sean Payton and Denver completely 349 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: recalibrated the Denver O line in one off season. 350 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: Ben did it. 351 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: I think the real secret sauce of the Bears is Jonah, 352 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: Dolman and Tooney. There when you watch the highlights of 353 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: the Bears, there are holes like these, aren't Krevis. There 354 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: are major openings guard, center, guard, for this offense. 355 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Packers' injury report, Colin. 356 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: It ain't good. 357 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 3: I mean, Josh Jacobs still banged up. They lost their 358 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: right tackle, Evan zech. 359 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 8: Tom there's safety who leads the team and picks Evan Williams. 360 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: He's hurt. 361 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 8: Listen, I don't I think I love the calling. 362 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: Bear, I'm with you, but I don't want to go overboard. 363 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 8: This could be like a thirty to ten type beat 364 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 8: down where the crowd's going wild and everybody's like, we can. 365 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: Go to the NFC championship. Is this the biggest game? 366 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: Is this the biggest NFL game in Chicago in a decade? Well, 367 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: they're probably been a playoff game in the last. 368 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 8: Five six Cutler playoff game with the last Bears playoff. No, 369 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 8: they had one more recently with Trubisky and they hit 370 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 8: the double doink. 371 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: Remember that one. I thought you forget who it was against. 372 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: This is the biggest regular season game in a long 373 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: time in Chicago, for sure. 374 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: What's the weather going to be like? There, haven't you 375 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 3: beautiful Sonny? Seventy five? 376 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: Seventy five? 377 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so don't don't don't go to weather maps and 378 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: then ray when you live here. 379 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 3: It's today, it's ball me Balney. 380 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 8: Okay, sure, final story, Colum, Oh, let's go to the 381 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 8: forty nine ers. Things are looking good for Brock purty Man. 382 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 8: We used to call him b October. I mean remember 383 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 8: because October. 384 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: Was his month. 385 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 8: Now, I mean we can't play with December. But brock 386 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 8: Perty's on fire. Forty Niners have won four straight since 387 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 8: he returned from that bad, gruesome toe injury. Remember all 388 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 8: the Mac Jones nonsense, that's put to bed. Here's Juwan 389 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 8: Jennings talking about how much the team missed Purdy when 390 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 8: he was out. 391 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 11: Didn't think a lot man to have them back healthy. 392 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 11: Obviously a game breaker, definite. Where Brock is that under 393 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 11: the lights and you know whatever brought bring from the 394 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 11: table we try to you know Mac kid, Yeah. 395 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: No, he gives them a component. I mean he's he 396 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: moves and and in fairness, I said, remember when he 397 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: had the three pick game against Carolina on Monday night, 398 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: I said, time out, he's not healthy. 399 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: That's all just floaded. 400 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: When I watched them this week, ball head zip, he moved. Well, 401 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. This is the first 402 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: last week was the first time all year I'm like, Okay, 403 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: that's he's one hundred percent healthy. 404 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 6: Now. 405 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: He looked great last weekend. He looked absolutely fantastic. 406 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 8: So remember last week I had mentioned to you, if 407 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 8: you think the Bills are going to beat the Patriots, 408 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 8: bet the Bills to go to the Super. 409 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: Bowl win the AFC. 410 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 8: So my call this week, if you think tonight Seattle 411 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 8: beats the Rams, you need to bet the forty nine 412 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 8: ers to win the NFC. 413 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Colin. 414 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 8: If Seattle wins this game tonight knocks the Rams out 415 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 8: of the number one, san Fran can move up. With 416 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 8: that Week eighteen game against Seattle at home. By the way, 417 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 8: they already beat Seattle, san Fran would win the division 418 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 8: and the number one seed. Now I know that's a 419 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 8: lot to wrap your head around, but if Seattle wins tonight, 420 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 8: keep an eye on Sanfran to get the number one 421 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 8: seed in the NFC. I know that sounds comical. They 422 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 8: have no defensive players. They can't stop the run against 423 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 8: the freaking Titans, But I'm just. 424 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: This team is dangerous offensively. 425 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 8: Joan Jennings healthy, Kittle healthy, McCaffrey healthy. 426 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Are you sure the Niners with no pass rush can 427 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: go to Indy and slow down the phillip Rivers train. 428 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm certain of that. Okay, the high scoring game, 429 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: I think I think. 430 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: The Colts moved the ball. 431 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 3: Colts defense is a joke right now. They got all 432 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 3: their quarterbacks are hurt. 433 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 8: I mean, I don't care about what they did against 434 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 8: Donald and Seattle. I think Sana Frian wins that. Keep 435 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 8: an eye on the Niners in the Super Bowl. Niners Buffalo. 436 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 8: Can I sell you on that? Brock Perty versus Josh 437 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 8: Allen Camp. 438 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Jmack with the news. 439 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 440 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: herd Line news. 441 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: Like, there are certain organizations in sports, Uh, if they're 442 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: given an opportunity to do something smart, you trust they will, 443 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: you know, the Spurs Oklahoma City in the NBA. And 444 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: then there are organizations where they have an opportunity to 445 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: show a little curage and to be really smart. You 446 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: really think it's a coin flip if they can figure 447 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: out the obvious stuff. So Fernando Mendoza is going to 448 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: be the number one pick in the draft, especially now 449 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: that the NIL is keeping college kids in school. There's 450 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: a scarcity of quarterbacks and minimum five probably seven teams 451 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: in the first twelve teen picks need a quarterback, and 452 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks outside of Mendoza, they're all staying in college 453 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: because they can make four or five million in college. 454 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: So the NIL is a pain in the butt, at 455 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: least short term in the NFL. So what happens if 456 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: the Giants get the number one pick. The smart thing 457 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: to do, but it would take some courage, is you 458 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: draft Mendoza and you absolutely move Jackson Dart. Yeah, because 459 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: of nil quarterbacks in college securing the bag, it makes 460 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart way way. 461 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 3: Way more valuable than you the otherwise. If Dantey Moore 462 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: is coming. 463 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: Out, Jayden Mihava's coming out, if all these guys are 464 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: coming out, Eh, Okay, what's the market for Jackson Dart now? 465 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: I will say, and I think credit goes to Lane 466 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Keffen and Charlie Weiss, who both work with Jackson Dart. 467 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: He's had a very very good, mature rookie year. Go 468 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: look at his numbers without a number one receiver, number 469 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: one running back, or a great tight end, they're very solid. 470 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: Sixty two and a half percent completion percentage, that's not bad. 471 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: Passer rating, almost ninety three touchdown to inter total touchdown 472 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: interception ratio twenty to four. That's got a Caleb Williams 473 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: feel to it. So he has been better than I thought. 474 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: I thought he was a mid second round guy. Charlie 475 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: Weiss texted me, he said, Colin, he's better than you think. 476 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: He's right. 477 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: He's been very compelling. But Mendoza is a much bigger, 478 00:25:55,720 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: better prospect. And you could now because of Nil, get 479 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: a hole for Jackson Dart. You don't think Arizona's gonna 480 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: go with Jackson Dart, don't have to pay him for years. 481 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: You don't think the Raiders will be interested. There's only 482 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: one Mendoza, and if the Giants are the worst team, 483 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna take courage. 484 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: New York media is loud a lighting out now. 485 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: People could say it's an easy decision because Jackson Dart, Colin, 486 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: he is always in the blue tent. Let me defend 487 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart on that a little. They don't have a 488 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: great O line. He's a very confident kid and he 489 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: moves maybe not as well as bow knicks, but the 490 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: kids an athlete. Drake may also a big athlete. He 491 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: got caught a couple of times in the blue tent 492 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: his first year, and then Vrabel became his coach and 493 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: said stop that. So I'm gonna give him a little 494 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: pass on the aggressiveness and the blue tent. But if 495 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: you don't think the Raiders, Dolphins, Cleveland, Jets, Colts, Atlanta, 496 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: Arizona would not be interested in jack and Dart, you're nuts. 497 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: He's done a very good job. 498 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good looking kid, he's confident face 499 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 1: of the franchise, West Coast kidd go to Vegas, go 500 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: to Arizona. So I'm gonna defend him a little on 501 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: the blue tent stuff. He's a rookie. The game is 502 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: real fast. He's gotten whacked a couple of times. Justin Herbert, 503 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: I love him. Justin Herbert's first two years in the league, 504 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was a four to two college graduate. Smart 505 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: kid would put a shoulder down and try to run 506 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: over linebackers. Hard Bob became his coach, he doesn't do 507 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: that anymore. So I'm gonna defend Jackson Dart a little aggressive, 508 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: but the kid's really talented. And so my question is, 509 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: you know certain organizations and certain gms would make that move. 510 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: Do you think the Giants would I don't know fak 511 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: one Barkley move you think they would. Here's Tom Brady 512 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: on Fernando Mendoza a Sunday. 513 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 12: I love everything about his game. Certainly, his leadership is 514 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 12: what stands out to me. It's his relatability to his teammates, 515 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 12: and he's overcome a lot of things in his career. 516 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 12: He's a Miami kid, went to cal to Indiana and 517 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 12: then you go to a program that hasn't won anything 518 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 12: in forever, and what he's done this season. 519 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: Was so impressive. 520 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's a really, really kind of a 521 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence feel like. I mean, Trevor Lawrence had Clemson players. 522 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: Both have good coaches, Dabo Swinney and Kurt Signetti. But 523 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a good prospect. The kid is grateful, humble, large, 524 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: great arm and on the road at Penn State and 525 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: against Ohio State those final drives. I mean that's and 526 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: I told you this. I have talked to an NFL 527 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: head coach, an offensive guy who all of you respect, 528 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: who told me he's an easy guy to scout because 529 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: Indiana runs so many pro sets. It's a very pro 530 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: style offense with a lot of the offense it is, 531 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: so he's an easy guy to evaluate. You know, when 532 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes came out of Texas, the take was, God, the 533 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: kid's incredibly talented, but that's not an NFL offense. Now, 534 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: the smart people knew he was really really good Brett 535 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: Veach and all those guys, But this kid's an easier 536 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: kid to scout. Plays in the Big ten pro style 537 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: offense and just good arm, big kid, smart kid, great story. 538 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: The Giants get the number one pick, the easy thing 539 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: to do is just say we're keeping our guy, We 540 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: love our guy. Just you better hope you don't have 541 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: to play Fernando Mendoza twice a year or even once 542 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: a year. 543 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd weekdays 544 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific. 545 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: Well, we've said the NIL has become a pain in 546 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: the butt for NFL teams that need a quarterback. Jade 547 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: and Mayava six four two thirty USC. He's staying at college, 548 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: Dante more may arch Manning go. I don't think he's 549 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: ready for the NFL, but he's staying in college. Ty 550 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: Simpson may stay at Alabama and whether or not they'd 551 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: succeed in the NFL, it's an option and you can 552 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: sell hope to your fans. If you draft one of them, 553 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: you can load up your roster because you're not paying 554 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: him anything for four or five years. So it makes 555 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza even that much more valuable, and he was 556 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: valuable if they all came out. Joel Klatten, the voice 557 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: of college football at Fox, is joining US Live. You know, 558 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: it is interesting. The NIL is fascinating. There's so many things, 559 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: so many tentacles of it. One of the things I 560 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: like is that it pays kids before they go pro 561 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: so they get a sense of kind of responsibility with money. 562 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't like going from borrowing money for pizza in 563 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: college to a millionaire. 564 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: It's you know, so I like that. 565 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: I think it protects the kids, that gets him ready 566 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: for the NFL. The other thing is Jade and Mayava 567 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: for another year in college. I'm like, Wow, he's going 568 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: to be a heck of a prospect. 569 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: What do you Let's just take this. 570 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about all these guys, Ty Simpson, Jadon Miava. 571 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: If I recall you all, you like them all staying 572 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: you think they all need even Dante more another year? 573 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 6: Right? 574 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 575 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 13: I do like, listen, you make a financial argument, and 576 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 13: I think that that argument is very sound. You know, 577 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 13: they can make you know, over three million dollars to 578 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 13: stay in college and colin I don't think that any 579 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 13: of these guys are guaranteed to be a top fifteen pick. 580 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 13: You know, based on the evaluation. You never know how 581 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 13: the process is going to go. And if you're in 582 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 13: the back end of the first round or even the 583 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 13: let's say even the early half of the second round, yes, 584 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 13: it's a lot of money, but the organization is not 585 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 13: going to be as completely invested in you as you 586 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 13: would be in the top end of the first round. 587 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 13: And so my argument would be that like the contract 588 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 13: that you sign if you weren't a top end first 589 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 13: round draft pick is great, there's no doubt, But in 590 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 13: terms of next year, you can probably make a similar 591 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 13: amount in college and then increase your draft stock to 592 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 13: get up there into the top end of the first round. 593 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 13: And experience plays a part of that. I've talked that 594 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 13: link on this program countless times about how I think 595 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 13: one of the biggest prerequisites to NFL success is college 596 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 13: experience and the amount of reps that you need. The 597 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 13: guys that win Super Bowls get to their second contracts 598 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 13: generally have started over thirty times. Well, Dante Moore and 599 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 13: Ty Simpson and these guys like arch Manning, they haven't 600 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 13: done that yet, and so not only do they need 601 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 13: more time to develop on the field, but now financially 602 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 13: it's not as prohibitive for them to stay and not 603 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 13: go to the NFL and not get that contract. 604 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: So I think even despite beating Ohio State, and maybe 605 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm guilty of this, everybody's like, well, Ohio State will. 606 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: Win a rematch. George is better. 607 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: And it's like if coaching in quarterback matters, Indiana's got 608 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: easily the best quarterback and arguably the best coach. There's 609 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: not a lot of guys above Signetti what he's doing 610 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: in Indiana. Not to say they don't have true a 611 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: good roster, but they don't have a Georgia roster yet 612 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: or an Ohio State roster. 613 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: Would you be shocked? Are we undervaluing. 614 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: Indiana because it's like, wow, that was their super Bowl? 615 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: You will, I mean, how do you view them going forward? 616 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 13: Clearly one of the two or three best teams in 617 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 13: the nation, and I'll be very surprised if they're not 618 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 13: in the semi finals, and I'll be pretty surprised if 619 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 13: they're not playing for a national championship. And a lot 620 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 13: of that has to do with their quarterback, yes, and 621 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 13: their coach obviously, but it's also their defense. You know, 622 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 13: in this day and age in college football, think about 623 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 13: what's happened in the last four years. Calling the last 624 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 13: four national champions three of them have had the number 625 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 13: one defense in the country, and Georgia's second national championship 626 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 13: they had the fourth ranked defense in the country. So 627 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 13: every one of these defenses, Georgia, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, 628 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 13: they've had a top five defense. That's what I think 629 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 13: makes Indiana so good. You saw in the last forty 630 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 13: minutes of the Big Ten championship game when they prevented 631 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 13: Ohio State from scoring. That is an excellent defense led 632 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 13: by one of the best coordinators in the entire country 633 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 13: and Brian Haynes. And when you couple that with a 634 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 13: quarterback that plays best when his best is needed, laden 635 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 13: games with wide receivers that can win and contested, is 636 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 13: like Elijah Suratt, like, you got a team that can 637 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 13: win the national championship. So I'll be very surprised if 638 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 13: Indiana is not there In the end, I think that 639 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 13: Ohio State and Georgia are going to play in the 640 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 13: semi final, and the winner of that game is going 641 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 13: to face Indiana in the national championship. 642 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: So I've watched Oklahoma beat Alabama the last two years. 643 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Why am I supposed to believe Alabama with no run 644 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: games going to go to Norman and win the third time? 645 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: I think I like Oklahoma close. I love Alabama's coach 646 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: and wide receiver talent. They can't run the ball, you 647 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: can move the ball on them. Where do you stand 648 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: on that game? 649 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 13: Well, everything that you just said is right, and the 650 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 13: location does not favor Alabama in particular, when Oklahoma's got 651 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 13: one of the best pass rushes in the entire sport. 652 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 13: You know, Oklahoma has forty one sacks, that's tied for 653 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 13: the most in college football with Texas, A and M. 654 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 13: Now they're going to be at home against a team that, 655 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 13: let's face it, has not protected their quarterback all that 656 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 13: great in big situations. Florida State got at from Georgia 657 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 13: just got out after them, speaking of Ty Simpson, So 658 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 13: you would assume at least that Oklahoma is going to 659 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 13: be able to present a rush on ty Simpson. Here's 660 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 13: the thing that I think finally stalls out the idea 661 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 13: that Oklahoma has a big advantage is that Oklahoma offensively 662 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 13: has just done nothing in the back half of the year. 663 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 3: They are. 664 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 13: Do you remember a few years ago when you had 665 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 13: the whole like Iowa is the fake idea of college football? 666 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 3: I do remember that. 667 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, Okay so and I defended Iowa. So this 668 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 13: is this is going to sound like a knock. I 669 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 13: don't mean it to be a knock. I think that 670 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 13: Oklahoma is elite in two of three areas of their team, 671 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 13: and offensively they struggle, and they struggle mightily driving the 672 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 13: football down the field. They struggle trying to score points. 673 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 13: So in that sense, they're very similar to Iowa, calling 674 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 13: like this isn't Iowa team. They have to build into 675 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 13: field position, They've got to win special teams. Rent Vinables 676 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 13: has got to have a great defensive game plan, and 677 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 13: I think that's what gives people pause in terms of like, 678 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 13: well Oklahoma should win this game. Listen, I'm going to 679 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 13: go with environment. I'm going to go with defense, and 680 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 13: because of that, I think Oklahoma wins. I do think 681 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 13: it's going to be a close game. And I would 682 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 13: also say this, you know uniquely because you've been a 683 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 13: Lincoln Riley supporter and defender, and obviously you loved his 684 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 13: move to USC you know exactly, and I think uniquely 685 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 13: how burned those fans that Oklahoma felt and the vitriol 686 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 13: that they gave towards the situation. 687 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 3: Well, think about it now. 688 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 13: They have been waiting as a fan base for this moment, 689 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 13: ever since that Sunday morning when Lincoln Riley walked himself 690 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 13: to LA And because of that, I think that the 691 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 13: Palace on the Prairie is going to be one of 692 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 13: the great environments that we've ever seen. I think that 693 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 13: they've been waiting for this. They brought one of their 694 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 13: own home and Brent Vinnables, and they're back on a 695 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 13: stage in which they feel like they are born to 696 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 13: be at, rightfully at which is the playoff. This is Oklahoma, 697 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 13: one of the great storied programs in the history of 698 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 13: our sport. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about the environment that 699 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 13: that place is going to be. I think Norman is 700 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 13: going to be on fire, and because of that, it's 701 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 13: going to be tough for Alabama. 702 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: To win about a minute and a half left Michigan. 703 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: Great job, blue Blood Top five ever Penn Stage stumbled 704 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: into Matt Campbell, which a great hire if that I 705 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: hired him an hour after James Franklin was let go. 706 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: They kind of lucked into a great coach. Where are 707 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: we at on Michigan right now? 708 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 3: So I think two things real quickly. 709 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 13: I think that the internal query or investigation into the 710 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 13: athletic department, its practices, and its culture are going to 711 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 13: hold things up from a coaching search standpoint, because no 712 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 13: coach is going to want to be hired by a 713 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 13: guy that's not going to be there, so they want 714 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 13: to make sure that ward manual and the administration is 715 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 13: still there. That being said, I think a lot of 716 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 13: it depends on Friday night. I think that if Alabama loses, 717 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 13: there's a there's a pathway. 718 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 3: To Kaitlin de boor going to Michigan. 719 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 13: And I think the other name that I would be 720 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 13: looking out for is Jeff Brom, who's at Louisville, which 721 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 13: is his alma mater. But Jeff Brom is a winner 722 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 13: and he's done a nice job, and Michigan is Michigan, 723 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 13: you know, I know he's at his alma mater. 724 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: But Michigan is one of the premier jobs in the country. Oh, 725 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 3: it's a great job. It's just an unbelievable job. 726 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 13: And they've got a lot of they've got a lot 727 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 13: of support, they've got a lot of money behind that. 728 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 13: They've got a really young and talented roster. That's a 729 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 13: top ten team next year. Just remember that, you know, 730 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 13: that's a preseason top ten team if they can retain 731 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 13: all that talent. I walk in with Bryce Underwood and 732 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 13: give me a bread, and Andrew marsh and Jordan Marshall 733 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 13: and three red shirt freshmen and starting on the offensive line, 734 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 13: and all those young guys in the secondary, and I 735 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 13: mean like they're going to be very good next year. 736 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 13: All right, Joel, I'm gonna pick Miami to upset A 737 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 13: and m give me one thirty seconds, give me an upset. 738 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 13: I'm gonna take Miami. Carson Back, upset, close field goal. 739 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 3: I can't give you an upset. I can't give you 740 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: an upset. 741 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 13: The home teams last year all won these first round 742 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 13: playoff games, all by double digits. I don't I don't 743 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 13: trust Carson Beck and Mario Christobau on the road in 744 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 13: a huge game in a big environment. I just don't 745 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 13: that game's going to come down to turnovers. Whatever quarterback 746 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 13: plays clean Beck in Miami can't run the football cashus 747 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 13: Howel the great pass rusher for a and m is 748 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 13: going to play well. I don't think that there's an 749 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 13: upset this weekend. At first I owe you was getting 750 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 13: a point in a half, but now I think it 751 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 13: actually swung to oh you favored. So because of that, 752 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 13: I'm taking O you. I'm taking A and m Ole 753 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 13: Miss and Oregon this weekend. All right, could see anybody 754 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 13: you as well. Man, Hey, it's great to see you. 755 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 13: And if I don't talk to you before next week, 756 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 13: Merry Christmas, and I hope you have a great holiday. 757 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 3: Same to you and your beautiful family. Joel Klatt, thank 758 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: you very much. Appreciate a body. See Greg. 759 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: Greg Cosell joins us next hour. Todd McShay love having 760 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: him on. He's going to be joining us in the 761 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: last hour. That Fernando Mendoza, it's I'll taya. I said 762 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: this yesterday. J Mac drap A Hondi on Texas Tech 763 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: winning the whole thing. Nobody's talking about them, is it? 764 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: Plus eight eighty or plus eight hundred. I don't know 765 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: if they're going to win the whole thing. I watched 766 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: them twice, both against BYU. 767 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 3: Maybe it was a. 768 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: Favorable matchup, but they went and bought a bunch of 769 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: NFL guys and nobody is talking about the number four 770 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: seed in the tournament. Throw it out there. Tomorrow is blazing. 771 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: Five day picks were locked in by Wednesday. I already 772 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: bought three jet Skis. 773 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 3: That's how I feel.