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Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans?

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Speaker 2: We are back here episode number twenty three of the

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Speaker 2: Mets Up podcast. You're listening to us on Spotify, Apple podcast,

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Speaker 2: Google Podcasts. We did it quick this time, but I'm

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Speaker 2: feeling it because I want to ask, if you guys

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Speaker 2: It really does help us out. That's gonna be my

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Speaker 2: plug for the podcast today. We also got the Twitter

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Speaker 2: Instagram Mets Up. You guys know who we are. Co

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Speaker 2: host Mark Luiso Draftneckmark here with James Sheiano Jeter had

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Speaker 2: no range. Just finished up a series against the San

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Speaker 2: Diego Padres that the Mets won. Despite how some fans

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Speaker 2: might feel after today's game, Mets won the series two

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Speaker 2: wins too in a row were lost today on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: which is gonna be the game that we end up

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Speaker 2: starting off with today because it's fresh in everybody's mind,

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Speaker 2: fresh off the iron. I think that's the saying, is

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Speaker 2: that fresh off the presses, fresh off the presses, hot iron,

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Speaker 2: fresh press. Wow, don't know where I'm going with that one,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we're talking about the Padres series. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: start off with Game three, but I really do think.

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Speaker 2: Quick notes, it was a good series. I think like

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Speaker 2: the Mets still looked very good against one of the

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Speaker 2: best teams in baseball. James, I'm sure you share the

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Speaker 2: same sentiment as me.

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Speaker 1: One hundred the Mets impressed and now in a season

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Speaker 1: series with the Padres that they won.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we played what seven games against them? We got

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Speaker 2: four wins. Yeah, that's a playoff series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as of yesterday we would have been heading to

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles to face the Dodgers in the NLCS. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that would be fantastic. Today's game would never even have happened.

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Speaker 2: No, it wouldn't have even mattered. No, great, we lose

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Speaker 2: this game. Guess what, we won four before you did,

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Speaker 2: so that's all that matters. But we have a quick

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Speaker 2: shout out before we get started because I found a

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Speaker 2: website that ranks the podcast and everything like that, which

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Speaker 2: is cool because that's something I've been wondering about. And

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Speaker 2: we saw we are the number one baseball podcast in

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Speaker 2: the Republic of the Trinidad and Tobago. So shout out

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Speaker 2: to Trinidad and Tobago listener, if you're there somehow getting

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Speaker 2: with us, we got something special for you. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: let us know and uh shout out to turn it

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Speaker 1: It feels good to be number one somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Feels good to be number one somewhere. We're doing pretty

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Speaker 2: well though, like all around, super excited. The support has

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Speaker 2: been amazing as always. And again the YouTube channel you

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Speaker 2: guys can check us out there Mets Up Podcast. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna have all the videos going up there. We're also

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Speaker 2: trying something out new this week where we're also gonna

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Speaker 2: upload the full video as well as like split him

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Speaker 2: of this Mess Up content as well. Enough of the intro,

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Speaker 2: let's get started with Game three. Joey Lucazy on the

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Speaker 2: mound Mets looking for a sweep going up against the

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Speaker 2: Sheriff Chris Paddock. And it wasn't Lucasey's fault. While we

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Speaker 1: Was even close. He was almost the reason we could

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Speaker 1: have won this game. It was really similar to his

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Speaker 1: just like Manny Machado hit that donger last week, and

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Speaker 1: Lukeyzy just really settled in. It was pretty nice to watch.

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Speaker 2: And it felt like we did the same thing that

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Speaker 2: each other media like, Oh, this is gonna be a nightmare,

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Speaker 2: up being that Joey Lucazy selled it nicely and got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, one of the biggest things that Lukezy did

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Speaker 1: planning is a very big deal for us, and every

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Speaker 1: That is boosting us up and that's just another feather

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Speaker 1: Ryther on Twitter of the Apple NYM great block follow

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Speaker 2: And it's against a team that has now seen him

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Speaker 2: He pitched so well the last two starts against very

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Speaker 2: Messed Up Podcast, we are adamant about how we do

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Speaker 2: not want to see Joey Lucazy a third time through.

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Speaker 2: I get it from his perspective. He's a competitor. He

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Speaker 2: especially like if a guy like Peterson tomorrow could follow

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Speaker 2: seems like that's something Luis Rojas is like very conscious

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Speaker 1: Definitely, And I understand where Luke's coming from, Like it's

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Speaker 1: He's competitive, he has fire, But when you're throwing two

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Speaker 1: You can't really be that effective going through the line

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Speaker 2: That out, especially against the lineup like the Padres that

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Speaker 2: Variety's today doesn't matter. They didn't play Trent Grisham against

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Speaker 2: Joey Lucazy, which is crazy because Trent Grisham's one of

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Speaker 2: I'll bet they played against lefty specifically that give them

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Speaker 1: Sometimes Chirvan, it's chirfin the triff chairs. Yeah, Hosmer was

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Speaker 1: Padres are game planning for Joey Lucazy, but that's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because after the fifth, Familia came in for the sixth,

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Speaker 2: and it was not an easy sixth inning. But it's

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Speaker 2: Jerry's familia. That's why he's nobody out. They then they

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Speaker 2: I think of Grisham, which I think was big. I

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Speaker 2: it stuck in my head. I was like, that's a

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Speaker 2: big strike out. Oh it was Will Myers. It was

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Speaker 2: Will Myers. It was Will Myers. Hit him on the corner,

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Speaker 2: didn't swing. Will Myers loves to strike out, swinging or

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Speaker 2: looking loves it. Feel like I've seen it all series.

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Speaker 1: But that was huge.

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Speaker 2: But he kind of scraped through that ending again he

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Speaker 2: got the hard ground ball that he needed, which if

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Speaker 2: that was good. But you went, Okay, good sixth inning.

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Speaker 2: Who's coming in for the seventh And we saw Familia

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Speaker 2: come back out for the seventh, to which I think

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Speaker 2: every met fan disagreed with myself included. But I'm not

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Speaker 2: because I don't really know realistically if there was a

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Speaker 2: to seriously get worried about him because he's on like

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Speaker 2: an over nineteen stretch again. And you're gonna go through

434
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Speaker 2: rough stretches, You're gonna go through slumps. But it's seemingly

435
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,359
Speaker 2: been been an all season slump. Besides, like that little

436
00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,320
Speaker 2: road series in Arizona in San Diego, Dom has been

437
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,040
Speaker 2: non existed at the plate. He has ten barrels on

438
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Speaker 2: this season. That is atrocious. He's not hitting the ball

439
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:50,520
Speaker 2: well at.

440
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Speaker 1: All, not at all, and you just see him not

441
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Speaker 1: taking advantage of pitcher's mistakes. You see him being aggressive

442
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Speaker 1: in the wrong situations. He's just he seems lost like

443
00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,120
Speaker 1: it's very hard to pinpoint one thing that Dom isn't

444
00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 1: doing well because there are so many things that he's

445
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,800
Speaker 1: not doing well. And this entire series really embodied that.

446
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,520
Speaker 2: Like we saw in Game one he had that check

447
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,639
Speaker 2: swing against Blake Snell. I think it was bases loaded

448
00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,719
Speaker 2: and Blake Snell was struggling, he was he was on

449
00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,040
Speaker 2: the ropes and Dom check swung first pitch and I

450
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,359
Speaker 2: get it, Lefty, Lefty, it's not an easy matchup and

451
00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,600
Speaker 2: it's Blake Snell. But you have to go up there

452
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,600
Speaker 2: with a better approach. It seems like right now, Dom's

453
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 2: approach is completely gone. A lot of times when guys

454
00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 2: are struggling, they try to just play and not think right,

455
00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,399
Speaker 2: and that's like a big thing is like stop thinking

456
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,040
Speaker 2: so much, go up there, do your thing, Let your

457
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,679
Speaker 2: talent speak for your game. But it seems like Dom

458
00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,199
Speaker 2: is almost like actually going up there and seriously not

459
00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,960
Speaker 2: thinking because the selection of pitches is baffling. He will

460
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,400
Speaker 2: swing at a pitch up and in ooh and then

461
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,760
Speaker 2: two to one, like you'll see him like do the

462
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 2: little each row swing running out of the box, one

463
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 2: handed flair to left field, and you're like that's not

464
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,840
Speaker 2: the kind of player you are. That's not who we

465
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Speaker 2: thought Tom Smith would be. And when you dive deep

466
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Speaker 2: into like the pitches that he swing at and the zones,

467
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,120
Speaker 2: he's still crushing down the middle, but he cannot hit

468
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,359
Speaker 2: pitches around the edge.

469
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Speaker 1: He's not crushing pitches down the middle anymore.

470
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,280
Speaker 2: Well, he's hitting like literally down the middle and then

471
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,640
Speaker 2: right above it, but every like technically like that middle three,

472
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 2: it's one spot and it's like the actual heart of

473
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Speaker 2: the plate. I mentioned this a few weeks ago in

474
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Speaker 2: episode so we've been broken records talking about dom gow

475
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Speaker 2: Offteny's swinging at the first pitch in non advantageous situations

476
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,119
Speaker 2: and making week outs. Yeah, and when you look at

477
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Speaker 2: like the iso by his zone too, like there it's

478
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 2: shockingly low and you can even look at like twenty twenty.

479
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 2: He was never a particularly good low ball hitter, not

480
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Speaker 2: for power, not for anything significant. He has become not

481
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Speaker 2: a good hitter of almost any pitch, exclusively that like

482
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Speaker 2: high middle up pitch. He's just all over the place.

483
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 2: They have found his weak spot. They're attacking it, and

484
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 2: he has no idea what to do with it. He

485
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 2: has to become aggressively selective, and he's not doing that.

486
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Speaker 2: He is being like very he's trying to make things happen.

487
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 2: You can almost feel like, especially when he does come

488
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 2: up with the bases loader in situations where he can

489
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 2: drive in a run, it seems like he's just like

490
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Speaker 2: jumping at the first pitch he sees.

491
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Speaker 1: The location that he's getting crushed on this season is

492
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Speaker 1: the shadow of the plate.

493
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: What would be like, what is a shadow?

494
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Speaker 1: The shadow of the plate as it's broken up on

495
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: baseball savon is the area that if you give yourself

496
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 1: about two inches into the zone and two inches on

497
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 1: the outside of the zone. So it is the questionable pitches,

498
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,719
Speaker 1: the pitches you would consider too close to take, pitches

499
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 1: that really you're not gonna do very much damage on,

500
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 1: and pitches that you kind of have to foul off

501
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 1: or sometimes get tough hits on to stay in at

502
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Speaker 1: bats and like go through and have a good season.

503
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Speaker 1: But that is where he's getting killed. That has his

504
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 1: worst run value. Out of any pitches, he's swinging at

505
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Speaker 1: too many of them, He's taking the wrong ones, he's

506
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Speaker 1: not making heart contact than any of them, and is

507
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Speaker 1: really showing and it's affecting the rest of his game.

508
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: Something that Dom Smith was very good at last year

509
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 1: was punishing mistakes. I reverged a couple weeks ago about

510
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Speaker 1: the heart. I just said two minutes ago. This year,

511
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Speaker 1: he's swinging at twenty percent less pitches in the heart.

512
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Speaker 2: YEA, that's bad.

513
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Speaker 1: There's no excuse for that. He's taking these pitches. He

514
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,199
Speaker 1: swings these pitches in the shadow, taking the pitches down

515
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Speaker 1: the middle, and it puts him in non advantageous situations.

516
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 1: He's behind in too many counts. He's not hitting the

517
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: ball hard. His bower ray is plummeted. Just like you said,

518
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: I almost don't even see you away out in the

519
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 1: near future.

520
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: For him, it is getting to the point where I

521
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 2: texted you about it, texted my dad, just.

522
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: Like I am.

523
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 2: At the point where when Canfordo inevitably comes back, we

524
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Speaker 2: start to get a little more healthy. Dom doesn't get

525
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: playing time over Billy McKinney right now.

526
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 1: He just can't.

527
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: I know, Dom should be the better player and in

528
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 2: the past has shown us. But until that bat wakes up,

529
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 2: he is killing this lineup. And today was a day

530
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Speaker 2: like that where we had you know, guys on bas

531
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Speaker 2: or opportunities to really put some pressure on and Don

532
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: just came up and gave us nothing.

533
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Speaker 1: We've been a little negative for too long right now. Yeah,

534
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: we have maybe fallen victim to a bit of the

535
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Speaker 1: aura around this game. We did want to start with

536
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: this game because hot, it's fresh, Twether's been jumping, and

537
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: we gotta bring the vibes back up.

538
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I think our reason to be so hard on

539
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 2: Dom is because, like we know, like he's a good

540
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 2: player there, so it's like it's disappointing because we want

541
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 2: more from him because we've seen it. It's not like

542
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: this guy stinks, but like it's undebated or it's not

543
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: debatable that he's been playing poorly this year. But yes,

544
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Speaker 2: vibes up. Let's switch topics here, because we won the series.

545
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: This was a great series. Yes, the Mets beat the

546
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 2: Padres again. Yes, two out of three. And it got

547
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 2: it started on Friday night Jacob de Gram on the

548
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,959
Speaker 2: mound game one, and even the dude like hurt his

549
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: finger and he was still just so incredibly dominant. It

550
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 2: felt like a no hit kind of night. Didn't end

551
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 2: up being that, but he was still unhittable.

552
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: Basically, the vibe in the stadium for de Gram was unmatched.

553
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: It was twenty seven twenty eight thousand people whatever ended

554
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: up being in there that night. MVP chants were ripping

555
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: from the first inning.

556
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Speaker 2: Literally from the time he got called out. Now starting

557
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,239
Speaker 2: Jacob deGrom and it was a VP and I was like,

558
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: we're back, baby, let's go.

559
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: Simple man was blaring over city field. Everyone was swooning

560
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: to Leonard Skinner and it was great. It was so

561
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: cool to see Jacob de Gram live in front of

562
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Speaker 1: the Mets faithful for the first time all year. Like

563
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: we've been to a couple games year, I've seen the

564
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: ground pitch live few games this year, but having that

565
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: place juiced up, having everyone jack feeling the energy, it

566
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: was different. It was a beautiful night, too, gorgeous with

567
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Speaker 1: an evening no It.

568
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: Was great and it put up for a great game

569
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Speaker 2: because anytime Degram's on the mound, we're obviously gonna be

570
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: favored to win this game. That's ended up winning it,

571
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: beating Blake Snell, former Cy Young Award winner, who again

572
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: wasn't bad, but it seems like this is a Blake

573
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: Snell thing. He has bad innings and they avalanche like

574
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: he had a balk, He gave up a couple of hits.

575
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: He seems to almost like lose focus a little bit

576
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: in certain scenarios, and that box specifically was a loose

577
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 2: focus ball.

578
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: That bock was massive. That Black was one of the

579
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: biggest players of this game. He for some reason was

580
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: throwing to first when there was a man on second.

581
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: There was a guy on first, two, but they weren't

582
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Speaker 1: holding him on. The guy on first was in the

583
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: first basement, was in on the infield grass, who even

584
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: was on first? Who was hitting eight?

585
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: That?

586
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: Then?

587
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: Was it?

588
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: The ground was up on that?

589
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 2: No? No, but they were playing for the bunt, That's what

590
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying. De Grom was up, so they were in

591
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: to play for the bun. He balked him over the

592
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 2: d Grom gets a hit, two runs, score yes, And

593
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: there was already a strike on the Gram when he

594
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Speaker 2: balked like it was already a question.

595
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Speaker 1: Of whether he would containue to bunt or whether he

596
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: was swing away. Because he slashed yeah on the first pitch,

597
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: and that wound up. I think being the player hurt

598
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: his finger, but Blake's not just spiraled, and I was

599
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 1: happy that right after that Dominic Smith rally Killer. We

600
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: came out the next inning and that's when we put

601
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Speaker 1: these runs together. Swinging Yep, came out Billy bom Billy bombs.

602
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: Man, Billy McKinney. We want to give a little love

603
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: to here. We you guys know where big Billy Bams fans,

604
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 2: maybe not as much as our dads who when we

605
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: were at the game we mentioned Billy McKinney and both

606
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: of them lit up. They were so excited to talk

607
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 2: about Billy McKinney. You would think they were talking about

608
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: Francisco Lindork. They s wound, yes, they swooned. But Billy

609
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: McKinney really has been very good, and we got some

610
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 2: numbers on him because ever since he's joined the Mets,

611
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: he's not just been one of the best players on

612
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: this team, he's been one of the best offensive players

613
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 2: in baseball. Defensively a lot to be desired, but offensively,

614
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: he has been one of the best hitters in all

615
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: of baseball. Since he joined the Mets on May twenty seventh,

616
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: he has a three zero two batting average, three to

617
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: sixty two on base seven forty two slugging and one

618
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: ninety seven WRC plus ten extra bass hits, verse three singles.

619
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Speaker 2: Ten of his thirteen hits have been extra bases. He

620
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: has been so great fourth highest slug percentage in baseball

621
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: since joining ten, top ten in ops. He's been so

622
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 2: huge for this team. I don't think you can understate

623
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: it enough. And he was huge again in Game one.

624
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Speaker 1: Him being in the middle of this bad has kind

625
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: of changed the way that we hit. He's made us

626
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: more of a consistent lineup. It's freaking crazy. He did.

627
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: Him and Jacob deGrom had the big hits on Friday night.

628
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: We rode both of their bats to the win. Yep.

629
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 2: He was so big for us and unfortunately hurt. It

630
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: seemed like he got hurt his knee a little bit

631
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: in Game one because he didn't played Game two or

632
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: three as a sore knee, so we don't know what's

633
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: going on there. Hopefully comes back soon because this guy

634
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: helps our offense. You look at a lot of the

635
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: games we've been winning, Billy McKinney's been at the middle of.

636
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: It, which is just so funny thinking about you named

637
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: him Billy Bombs like by accident. Yes, that was kind

638
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: of just serendipitous because now he only has extra base hits.

639
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that he literally only hits bombs. He's like turning

640
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: into like Carlos Payton a light over here. He's like,

641
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 2: I hit home runs and doubles. I don't do singles.

642
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: I refuse. But back to d Grom though, because really,

643
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the star of the night.

644
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: He was sensational. You mentioned it when we started talking

645
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: about this game that there was a real no hitter

646
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: vibe when the first hit that came through. I don't

647
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: remember who was exact, Myers, well Myers, Yeah, he had

648
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: like a dinky single like through the shift. Everyone in

649
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Speaker 1: the ballpark was.

650
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Speaker 2: Like, ah, you could hear like a side but also

651
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Speaker 2: like almost a sigh of relief, like like, wow, was

652
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: so close.

653
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: We pins and needles for no hitter right now? Is

654
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: Mets fans like it has to happen. I want to

655
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 1: say that and get Jinks and.

656
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: This is the year. If there's any year to do it,

657
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: it's got to be this year where the balls are

658
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 2: completely dejuiced.

659
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: There actually were a couple of balls that were hit

660
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Speaker 1: like de flies off to Gram too early in the

661
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Speaker 1: game and yeah, right to the glove. But I mentioned

662
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Speaker 1: it with lu Kez I'm gonna mention Leogis Strowman. De

663
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: Gram has his own adjustment today to prepare for the Padres.

664
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Twice in a row he busted that change up back

665
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: out through it over ten percent of the time. First

666
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: time in like a month. Tommy Fam was just shaking

667
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: in his boots. I felt so bad for Tommy Fam

668
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: that first played the appearances, because he was on de

669
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: Grom's fastball right away. He filed the first pitch off.

670
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: I think he found the second pitch off, and he

671
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: was on him pretty competitive at bat, and the Grim

672
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: dropped a change up and the whole thing was over.

673
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: He looked like he was he was shocked. There was nothing,

674
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: and he was dominant over Tatis too. Tatis had literally

675
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: no clue what to do well. Tatis is starting to

676
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a problem with outside sliders,

677
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: something that the league should look out for. He's just

678
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: he's a little jumping He's twenty two years old. He

679
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: wants to get big hits. He got one today.

680
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Speaker 2: That's like what hiss Like always his knock is his fielding,

681
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: Like it's because he tries to make big plays. Yeah,

682
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: he's a big play guy.

683
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: And the Grom was throwing that slider to him on

684
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: the outside and he wasn't even close to it. The

685
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Grom's fastball actually only had two whips on Friday night.

686
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 2: Interesting.

687
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I thow balls and a lot of balls

688
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: and play on it, but whither.

689
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: Which is funny too because the guys that I was

690
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: with at the game from the start he goes, I

691
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: know he's like pitching like a no hitter. He goes,

692
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: but he just doesn't seem like he's as sharp as

693
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: he was. And it's because his fastball was sitting like,

694
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: I think, like ninety seven during the game, which is

695
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: a little love for Jacob deGrom.

696
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: And he picked that up because he was dominant with

697
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: the bat again. We called him out last start, they

698
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: went over three first time all year. Jacob said, you

699
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: know what I hear you guys the Messed Up Podcast.

700
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm a valiant listener, Mark James, I love you both

701
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: and I'm going to get a big hit for you

702
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: and Jacob to Graham got two RBIs off of that

703
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: Blake's now back.

704
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: It was so big. It was so big. I was

705
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: online a getting hot dogs and I was like I

706
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 2: was stuck. The lines were slow at City field, you know,

707
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: first game back with a lot of fans, and I

708
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: was like, I could jump to a different line, so

709
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: you know, this offense is clicking. You can't get off

710
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: the line when the offense is.

711
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: Doing something good.

712
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 2: He got the hit, boom, I got my hot dog,

713
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: came back to the seat, they got out, So you know,

714
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: I probably should have stay on the line or but

715
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: hey we got three runs and a big hit from

716
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: the Grom.

717
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and wound up being always needed. Even after de

718
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: Gram left the game, which the stadium was in a tizzy.

719
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: I was upset.

720
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: I was freaking.

721
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: I was like, they took him, see, like you want

722
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: to get on Rojas. I was like, Rojas took him

723
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: out tonight? Are you kidding me? Like that felt like

724
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: a very warranted upset, But it's because at the stadium

725
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: we didn't know de Gram was having an issue with

726
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: his finger and was pulled out of the game by

727
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: like the trainer or him. They both agreed like mutually,

728
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: like let's call it a night.

729
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: They mutually agreed it was. It was a mutual breakup. Yes,

730
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: it was amicable.

731
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 2: But Castro came in and Castro, as we now know,

732
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: had a stiff neck, to me, it felt like they

733
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: said Castro had a stiff neck so that Luke could

734
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: come in and have as much time as you wanted

735
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 2: to work. It felt like a fake injury.

736
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: But last week there wasn't an instance where Castro did

737
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: leave the game and you kind of saw him grimacing

738
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. So maybe this next thing is something

739
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: for Castro. If I was a reliever and I gave

740
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: up a home run like that to Jay Cronaworth, I

741
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: will also have a stiff nack. Yeah, he got a

742
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: little something going on back here. I don't know little.

743
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Hansel Robos whiplash from watching that one go because Cronworth

744
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: crushed it. Good baseball player.

745
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: Really good baseball player.

746
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: But luckily for us, you know, Lugo came in cleaned

747
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: up the mess. That's the guy who we know needs

748
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: more time to kind of warm up. That's always been

749
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: a big thing with him, like he's gotta get up early.

750
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: So I think that injury did help him out a

751
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: little bit and getting in there to clean it up.

752
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: He was great as always, and he didn't throw a

753
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: lot of pitches, which allowed him to go in Game two.

754
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: Loop came in afterwards, Lup did a good job. He

755
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: started to get into the part with the lineup where

756
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: you're not comfortable. Diaz stepped up, and I mean Edwin Diaz.

757
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: Those trumpets with twenty eight thousand was great. It was awesome.

758
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: It was great, but it could have been much better

759
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: if the situation he was coming in was like the

760
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: beginning of an ending and we were like excited and clean.

761
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Diaz had to come in with two outs in the

762
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: eighth and the four outsay for Edwin Diaz. Scares the

763
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: living shit out of me. And the stadium city field

764
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: was tense during those trumpets, like everyone wanted to get

765
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: loose and get wild, but no one really could.

766
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: There was a lot of claps, there wasn't yelling. It

767
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: was like clapping along to it, but like there was

768
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: no like you know, people up on their feet like dancing.

769
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: Like it was like a hey, let's let's see what

770
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: you got for us, Edwin, and I mean it's Edwin Diaz.

771
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: He was light sack out.

772
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible. I think that he was facing not Tatis,

773
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: was Machada.

774
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: Ninth and ninth in he faced the heart of the order.

775
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: But when he came out and saying with twos in

776
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: the eighth with the men on.

777
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: Got fam and he got the job done.

778
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Speaker 1: He did get the job up. One of the only

779
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: people to get Tommy fam out this series. He did

780
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: let Horace Matteo just take second base. Yeah, he didn't

781
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: even look at him in a one run game. That

782
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: was frightening.

783
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: I truly believe he forgot he was on first base.

784
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: I just think he was so jacked up he didn't

785
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: even care. Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna get Tommy Fanas.

786
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter he can't steal home.

787
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: Who cares. He might if there's anybody a major league

788
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: baseball I think he is the fast gat in baseball.

789
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: Check that back. But I kind of already forgot. But

790
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Dias working in a four out, say he went deep

791
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: into his bag. He dropped first pitch sliders to I

792
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: think every hitter that came up in the ninth Tatis

793
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,719
Speaker 1: Kroniworth and Eric Osmer or Machalla came up the nine

794
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: two and I've walked him. Might have someone got a

795
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: base of nine. I don't remember, but yeah, Machada was

796
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: trying to steal. Yeah, he did throw a first pitch

797
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: sliders again to Tatis Kroniworth and Osmer. That was the

798
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: most times he has thrown a first pitch slider in

799
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: any outing all season. Of course, he got more outs

800
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: than usual, we didn't necessarily face more bathers. I think

801
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: it's cool to see that, like everyone else in this rotation,

802
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Edwin d has made an adjustment when the situation called

803
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: for it, which is one of the most impressive things

804
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: that this Mets pitching staff has been able to do

805
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: this year.

806
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: And it also feels like in years past I've felt

807
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: myself complaining about the Mets don't feel like they're prepared.

808
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: They feel like a much better prepared team this year,

809
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: and that comes from Rojas Hefner. Everybody is doing giving

810
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: these guys the right information that they need to be successful,

811
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: and it shows by this stuff on the field, Like

812
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: there's a reason why the Mets bullpen and starters are

813
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: all having good seasons. It's not necessarily because we have

814
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: the nastiest stuff out of the bullpen or the nastiest

815
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: stuff for starting pitchers. We are pitching to the guys

816
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: in the proper way with the stuff that we have,

817
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: like they're using the information to be successful. Stuff you

818
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: see teams like the Tampa Bay Rays do the Oakland

819
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: A's teams that don't necessarily have the talent sometimes but

820
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: get the job done. The Mets have some really good

821
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 2: talent and they're getting the job done because they have

822
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: the same information.

823
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Now, no, the Mets are officially smart. We've been banging

824
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: this drum all year and every Mets fan has to

825
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: realize that we're now one of those teams games. We're

826
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: one of the teams that gets more ever players rather

827
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: than less, which is a big difference for the Mets.

828
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: I understand that it's hard to realize this as fans

829
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: that we have jumped a wrong. We're in a new

830
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: echelon now of intelligence. But just be happy about it.

831
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Enjoy this because we are going to be choosing more

832
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: out of these guys than we ever have.

833
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: It's good like we are one of the teams that

834
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: shifts the most, and that's why I think like even

835
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: in this series, double plays were huge, specifically to Eric Hosmer,

836
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: who seemed to hit into a double play every single

837
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: time he stepped up to the plate. But a lot

838
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: of it has to do with one how they're pitching him.

839
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: This is a guy who has a trouble with launch angle.

840
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: He will pound the ball into the ground, pitch him low.

841
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: Second thing with him too, is that you gotta play

842
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: the shift, and the Mets were playing the shift. They

843
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: were playing him right. If you probably asked Keith Hernandez

844
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: where you're gonna play a Hosmer, you go, oh, he'll

845
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: take the ball left field. No, you don't play that.

846
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: You listen to the numbers. That's what the Mets do,

847
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: and they got him out. They got They just played

848
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: a really good series.

849
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: Did you just bring us into the game too, Yeah.

850
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: I brought us into Game two here because it was

851
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: a good, clean, winning game too, not too much to

852
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: talk about.

853
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: No, it was like a super simple, chill win. We got.

854
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: We jumped on Joe Musgrove Lindor had that quick home

855
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: run the first end and he crushed it.

856
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: By the way, like that was a lefty. That was

857
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: a beautiful bounce swing, drove it everything that you like.

858
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: If you're showing your kid a nice left handed swing,

859
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: you show him that Francisco indoor one, because he did

860
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: everything right there and what do you know, he hit

861
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: it about like four hundred and thirty four hundred and

862
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: forty feet.

863
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: Wait, he's just good. Yeah, like He's really good. It's fun.

864
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: He actually even talked about after the game yesterday how

865
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: how much he enjoyed the fans cheering for him, yes,

866
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: rather than billing him. So I actually feel like I'm

867
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: home now. It's nice.

868
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: Of course, like he he's been very open about it.

869
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: He does not like geting boode, which is great to hear.

870
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: No one likes it, but I'm glad. He also wasn't

871
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: afraid to be like, uh no, I don't hear it.

872
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: He's like, no, I do. I want it to stop,

873
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna play better.

874
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: He did play better. It was great. But the real

875
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: story of Saturday's game was Marcus Strowman. I've said it before,

876
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. His most He's the most important

877
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: player in this team. He was dealing again a very

878
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: handsome box score for Marcus, very handsome, clean yeah six

879
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: and the third eight strikeouts, one walk, six hits, woner

880
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: and run. The only blemish was the Tatis just moonshot.

881
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: And that's just because Fernando Tati is simply one of

882
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: the best players in baseball. So good. You make a

883
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: mistake to him, he's gonna make you.

884
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: Pay, definitely. And the Padres were hitting the ball hard

885
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: all day. I don't think that box score really shows.

886
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the struggles as Stroman had,

887
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: but that he was very hittable. Yesterday we talked about

888
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: the adjustments for everybody. Last week I talked about how

889
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: Stroman mixed all off his pitches when we face the Padres.

890
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: I like that he does that more. This wasn't a

891
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: big sinker game for him. A lost splithers on top

892
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: of that two second most splitters he's thrown in a

893
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: game all year. He wasn't really getting a ton of whiff,

894
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: especially on that splither that itself only got one. But

895
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: the Padres again relacing the ball. They had twelve hard

896
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: hit balls off Stroman and they were all finding gloves.

897
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that plays into the whole shifting thing again.

898
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: The shift works people love to use like work so

899
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: well the outlier when it goes through that one time,

900
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: But then forget the ten other ground balls that got

901
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: hit deep into the hole and you know, in second

902
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: base its side or right up the middle. How many

903
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: times the Mets got in the ground ball up the

904
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: middle stepped on second for a double play that never happened.

905
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: The last few years. I mean, like Lindor is a

906
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: huge part of it too, but they're just putting guys

907
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 2: in the right spots.

908
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Definitely. Of those twelve hard hit balls, only four left

909
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: the infield.

910
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: That's an incredible rate. Yes, that's what you want, because

911
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: that's the difference, like literally between a ground ball and

912
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: a barrel leaving the infield. Pretty much like hit. If

913
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: you get the ball in the air, you're gonna get barrels.

914
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: Barrels gets hits, hard hit ground balls, those are outs.

915
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: That's just how baseball's played when it's using shifts.

916
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially now that the Mets are one of the

917
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: most shifting teams in baseball. Hosmer himself yesterday, I don't

918
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: want to talk about Eric Osmer too much because he's

919
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: a rath fuck and I hate his guts faster and

920
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: just him existing inside the city field makes me want

921
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: to stab him in the eye. But he that loser.

922
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Forgot about launch angle again because he sucks. He hit

923
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: four balls yesterday at one hundred five miles an hour.

924
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Harder one hundred five miles an hour is the line

925
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: where like, you crush that ball, that is almost gonna

926
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: be a hit every single time. And he had zero hits,

927
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: not one hit on four batted balls over one hundred

928
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: five miles an hour. Like, don't do not think lunch

929
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: angle works because Eric Osmer is the poster child for

930
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: this problem, which is so funny because he was a

931
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: guy last year who he saw like embraced launch angle.

932
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: He's hitting the ball in the air more and well,

933
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, I had a good year this year, he

934
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: seemingly has stopped caring about it and his numbers have declined. Yes,

935
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: which sure great for us.

936
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't care.

937
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: Keep hitting ground balls, be my guest. The Mets will

938
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: continue to shift you and cause you to hit ground

939
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: balls and get you out.

940
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: It works definitely. And then the other funny thing I

941
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: thought from this game was that Musgrove like was kind

942
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: of dealing. Yeah after that Lindor home run, like tough

943
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: luck loser twice in a week from Musgrove against the Mets,

944
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: which I'm really I really feel bad for the guy.

945
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: It sucks.

946
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 2: I am heavily invested in his card in MLB the show,

947
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: hoping he goes diamond, and he's come up against the

948
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: Mets the last two time and I'm like, let's beat you,

949
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: but not too bad.

950
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: We're just the world's smallest violin right now. For the

951
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: Padres Italian Joe. Yes, we only had four herded balls

952
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: the whole game. Luckily one of them left the yard,

953
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: then two of them actually because damn the Jonathan r

954
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: Pimp a home run yesterday that rushed.

955
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: It, absolutely destroyed it, and I loved his pimp. His

956
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: pimp was like so disrespectfully, respectful. He watched it forever,

957
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: and then he looked at the Mets bench and went like, let's.

958
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: Keep it down, let's stay cool.

959
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: As if he's like I'm celebrating, but hey, we're good.

960
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: We've been here before.

961
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: That was one of the first balls that gone to

962
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: the corner all year.

963
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: Crushed it, absolutely demolish it. There was no doubt that

964
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: ball was gone.

965
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: None at all. And then Seth Lugo. If anyone forgot

966
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: it's one of the best believers in baseball. So good,

967
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: he's so good. He's mixing four pitches out of the pen.

968
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: He's throwing Slyder's change ups, curve balls, anything you need,

969
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: he's got it.

970
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun to watch him bridge the gap

971
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: to Lugo. When Castro's healthy, He's gonna. Yeah, that's what

972
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: I mean. Yeah, I said him, bridge the gap to Lugo.

973
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: That's not it.

974
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: Bridge the gap to Diaz. We got cashtro we got

975
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: May Like that's that's a good four headed monster.

976
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Were talking about cloning Seth Lugo. I would love to

977
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: clone Seth Luga. Let's just he could be every picture

978
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: of the bullpen. I'd be so happy if we have

979
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: like seven Seth Lugos on the roster. We can make

980
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: one starter throw six in the bullpen.

981
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: I'd let him throw lefty to Why not, I'm sure

982
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: try try it. But yeah, it was a really good

983
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,720
Speaker 2: game too. Edwin electric again shutting the door. No problems

984
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: because Edwin Diaz is just really good. He's the player

985
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: that we expected we traded for, and he's shown us

986
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: it again in safe situations, he's pretty lights out. He

987
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: is an that echelon of absolute elite closers in baseball.

988
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: He's amazing. I there's probably three or four leavers in

989
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: the whole league right now I'd rather have than Edwin Diaz.

990
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those guys are like what Josh Hater, Liam

991
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 2: Hendricks probably and a Chapman probably still, I guess. And

992
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: otherwise you're not finding much better than Edwin Diaz this year.

993
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: No, not not even closed. Like really, it's it's a

994
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: marvel that he is now one of the best closers

995
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: in baseball. And like we just kind of have that.

996
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it last night? We were watching like

997
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: the Jimber stand up thing or whatever, and he was

998
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: talking about Edwin Diaz and like the fifteen homers and

999
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: like how quickly that changed. Like you look back on

1000
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: that and you're like, that is gonna age, like milk,

1001
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: it's not gonna age well at all because this guy

1002
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: so lights out. Now we're gonna be kissing the ground.

1003
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: This guy walks on soon when he closes the door

1004
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: of a World Series.

1005
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: ANGELI, I'm kissing the groundy walks on. He's so fucking good.

1006
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: That four that just touch back on Friday's game real quick,

1007
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: that four outsave, That entire situation went from de Grom

1008
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: leaving and crona Worth immediately hitting a home run. Yeah,

1009
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: that felt like a classic game. The Mets lose and

1010
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: the Mets didn't, Yes, they won. That's a loss where

1011
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: a little spiral out of control. On Saturday, you won't

1012
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: be able to hit musk Grove, he'll beat Stroman. They'll

1013
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: get crushed on Sunday when you don't have like the

1014
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: healthiest team in the world anymore.

1015
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: Which is so funny because like when you think about

1016
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: like the Mets like spirals or like all the bad stuff.

1017
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: Remember back in twenty fifteen, they've had that terrible series

1018
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 2: against the Padres. It feels like every time we go

1019
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: up against the Padres, it's either gonna lead to like

1020
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 2: absolute like meltdowns, or this is gonna be what pushed

1021
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 2: us to the next level.

1022
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: Well that's more true now than then because the Padres

1023
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: are one of those benchmark teams, especially in the National League. Yeah,

1024
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: no one will tell you the Padres aren't one of

1025
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: the three best teams in the National League and the Mets, Yeah,

1026
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: you'd be dumb. You wouldn't be paying attention. Like yah,

1027
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: the Cubs have been in the Padres. So just to

1028
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: start start to transition us into our Cubs review, this

1029
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: was a benchmark series. We said this going into like

1030
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: three episodes ago before we played them the first time.

1031
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: It was gonna be very important to see where this

1032
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: Mets team still undermanned. Mind, you would stack up against

1033
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: one of the best teams, a team that there's a

1034
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: very good chance we see in October, and we beat them. Yeah,

1035
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: we handled them. We didn't like just skate by against them.

1036
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: We defeated them, yes, soundly, four times in a row.

1037
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: And like, you're very rarely gonna beat the Padres, like

1038
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: by a lot, so every game you're gonna play with

1039
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: them close. They're another, like we said, top three team

1040
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 2: in the league, great bullpen, they play shifts, they play

1041
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: good baseball besides that one bunt. But hey, like we

1042
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: hung with them, we beat them, We hung with them,

1043
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: we beat them, We beat the So enough of this.

1044
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: The Mets aren't good to play in the NL East.

1045
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: The Mets just beat arguably the best team in baseball.

1046
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: Kind of situation here, and no one wants to give

1047
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: us respect.

1048
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Still, is that gonna pull us into your bad take?

1049
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: That pulls us in my bad take. Let's just get

1050
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: that out of the way. Because I was so upset

1051
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: with Twitter today, I said, everyone's listening to Frank the

1052
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: Tank too much. We're getting too upset. Frank the Tank replied.

1053
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: When I came over today before, like we're gonna hang

1054
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: out and record the podcast, Mark said, don't go on Twitter,

1055
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: it's toxic. Can you can't?

1056
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: It was so bad you would have thought that the

1057
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: Mets Anthony Dicomo even talked about it. Yeah, you would

1058
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: have thought the Mets were in last place twenty games

1059
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: back and that this team just got swept by the

1060
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: by a last place team.

1061
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: To Como's the goat, I would love to have the

1062
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: comb on here.

1063
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: So yes, I love like people were losing their frigging

1064
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: minds fire, Rojas was back, insanity, Rojas is going anywhere.

1065
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: He's done a great job this year. But here's the

1066
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: message that I received in my DM. Can't say the

1067
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: username because it's a little a little risky here. Yeah,

1068
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: but he said it's certainly possible that the team would

1069
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: be even more successful with different leadership. And I think

1070
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: whether he's fired or tomorrow at the end of the season,

1071
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: his demise is inevitable.

1072
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: I really want to congratulate. That's where the user on

1073
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: discovering that the sourus Yes, very impressive use of vocabulary.

1074
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: Demise inevitable. Wow, Like those are two words I didn't

1075
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: expect to see from someone who's talking shit in my

1076
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: mentions about the terrible Mets management, which has been great

1077
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: this year fantastic.

1078
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Speaker 1: He's a steady hand. Louis are a sure. A lot

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00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: of these bullpen decisions have not been great, but as

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00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: we've said over and over again, I don't think he's

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00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: really necessarily making them. Most managers in modern baseball get

1082
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: your direction, whether it be your limp decisions, your limp construction,

1083
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: your your defensive alignments, or your bullpen management from the

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00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: front office. And there's no doubt that's what's happening a

1085
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: lot of time with this Mets team.

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00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: And it's just so insane to talk about the demise

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00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: of Luis Rojas when this team is in first place.

1088
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: Just went seventeen to nine in the month of May

1089
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: with a triple A double A roster. At times we

1090
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: forgot Joe Neshwy Fargas and Khalil Lee and who is

1091
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: the other guy that was out, Cameron mabn cash Money, Maypen,

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00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: cash Money, Maven. These guys were our starting outfielders for

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00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: multiple games, weeks, weeks we were winning games. Luis ROAs

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00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: did a great job. We just beat the Padres to

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00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: we won a playoff series against the Padres, and we

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00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: have fans dming me about the demise of Luis Rojas

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00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: that it's inevitable. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: You can't how many games can you conceivably win? Ninety seven? Yeah,

1099
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: ninety eight. You're gonna have a lot more losses of

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season, and you can't act like

1101
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: every single one of them is gonna send this team

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00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: on a death spiral and we're gonna lose every game

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00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: and everything's over.

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Speaker 2: Mess are seventeen and six at home? I think, yes,

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00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: that's like one of the best records of baseball, if

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00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: not the And.

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Speaker 1: They've only played thirty three home games. There's so many

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00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: home games to come. This team is so good at home.

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00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: We have a lot of the home games the next

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00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: couple weeks, starting off with a four game set tomorrow

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00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: against the Cubs.

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00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: And the Cubs been playing good baseball. I don't believe

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00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: that they're particularly good team. They have good players though

1114
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: they still have Bias, still have Rizzo, they got Bryant,

1115
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: they got Contreri's Ian happ Like, there's there's good players

1116
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: on this team. They exist, so it's not a rollover.

1117
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: But they're pitching is just it's it's outperforming what they

1118
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: should be. Their bullpen has been crazy good bullpen's their

1119
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 2: bullpen is very good. Their bullpen's been fantastic. But they're

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00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: starting pitching. We gotta jump on because they have nothing

1121
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 2: in that department whatsoever. I mean, do we have probable starters?

1122
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: Who's even going?

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Speaker 1: Only two pitchers are actually named this series for the Cubs,

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00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: Jake Arianta tomorrow and Kyle Hendricks on Thursday. I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: that Kyle Hendricks probably get pushed up today for Wednesday.

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00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: But Trevor Williams on the I L which is a shame.

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00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: I'd love to face Trevor Williams, even though he diced

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00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: up last time. But that's a different message.

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00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't care. It was cold, Yeah it was.

1130
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: It wasn't even the seat, it was cold, and we

1131
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: played like three games in like three weeks.

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00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, screw them. I don't care. I hate the Cubs.

1133
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna crust him now. Aber als Lay

1134
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: is probably not gonna make a stark. He's still in

1135
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: the al with I think a finger issue.

1136
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: It might have been a blister, which it's not good

1137
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: that he's injured, but I'm glad that we missed him

1138
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: because he actually has good stuff.

1139
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: No, he's quite good if he was pitching. He was

1140
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna be my cub to watch.

1141
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: I think the guys to watch or just the offensive

1142
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: guys again, like just keep an eye out for specifically,

1143
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: like Wilson and Treis has been having a really solid

1144
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: year behind the plate. He's gotten better defensively and he

1145
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: is a good hitter, very good player. Know him well

1146
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: from his brothers well William of the Atlanta Braves. It's

1147
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: a good catching family to keep an eye out for.

1148
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: But these aren't gonna be easy wins because the Mets

1149
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 2: still have to come out. This is a team that's

1150
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: competing for first place with the Chicago Cubs. They have

1151
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: been playing good baseball and if they get a lead,

1152
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: they've been keeping it. Craig Kimberl is back.

1153
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1154
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: Greg Kimberl is back to being like that conversation of

1155
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: like top relievers of all time. You can erase nineteen

1156
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: and twenty where he like had those weird years. He's

1157
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: so back.

1158
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Ryan Tapera also has been unhittable this year for the Cubs.

1159
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: Dude got MVP votes last year and I was like,

1160
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: what that guy now looks like a genius because Ryan

1161
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: Tapara didn't give up a single earned run in the month.

1162
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: Of men and look at the advanced stats.

1163
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he wasn't.

1164
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: That was in the future.

1165
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: That had to be a mistake. But Ryan Tapeara has

1166
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: been really good. They like and also Craig kimberl owns

1167
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: the Mets, so anytime there's a lead and he comes in,

1168
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: he never seems to give up a run. This is

1169
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 2: a team though, that we gotta jump early, we gotta

1170
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: get on them.

1171
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 1: The Mets have been.

1172
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: Doing that a little more recently, scoring early, getting ahead.

1173
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: You've got to put the pressure on him. And it

1174
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: starts with Jake Arietta. Who fucked Jake Arietta good? He stinks,

1175
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: He's bad, He's he was great. He's not that picture anymore.

1176
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Vicky had one of the best we were looking at yesterday,

1177
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,959
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty inning stretches and the history

1178
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: of baseball between the end of the twenty sixteen season

1179
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: the beginning of the twenty seventeen season over one hundred

1180
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: fifty innings. Jake aria that had like an oh, it

1181
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: was an eight seventy r something eight seven ERA for

1182
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: one hundred fifty innings. That's insanity.

1183
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: Like he was so good, He's not that pitture anymore. No, no, no,

1184
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: he's and he's just I just don't like him. He

1185
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 2: was like an a he's He's been a little douchey

1186
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: to the Mets in the past, So I'd love to

1187
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: smat a douche in general. Yeah, I'd love to smack

1188
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: him in that fantastic beard around because that is a

1189
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 2: strong beard.

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00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: I'll give him arown beard. But the real story tomorrow

1191
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: night and this series. Honestly, for me, it's just gonna

1192
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: be if David Peterson can be. Okay, it's a tough matchup.

1193
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: It is not a good match of David Peterson against

1194
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: the Cubs because Baiez Rizzo. I mean, Rizzo hits left.

1195
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 2: He's not as well he used to, but he's still

1196
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: professional hitter. He'll still give a tough at bat David

1197
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 2: Peterson who doesn't throw strikes, and Rizzo will walk all day.

1198
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: He does not care. William Wilson contraras Chris Bryant like

1199
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: they just have lefty killers all over the place. Ye,

1200
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: scary matchup, especially with how Peterson's been pitching. Yep, I

1201
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: just come out throw strikes, man, give me something, don't

1202
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: I hate what he walks everybody. I hate when he's

1203
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 2: not aggressive. I hate what he's nibbling.

1204
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: I think that we have to do with Peterson now

1205
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: is kind of what the Mets. I don't know if

1206
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: they've done it purposely or unintentionally with Luke CAZy. But

1207
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: just pick your two favorite pitches right now, whether it

1208
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: be the fastball in the slide or the sinker in

1209
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: the change up. We want to get you through the

1210
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: lineup two times. Just get us to that point. Hopefully,

1211
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: maybe get Sean reed Foley call up today. I pray

1212
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: to God. Yeah, I think that's him. There's probably someone's

1213
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: gonna have to go. Is there anyone hurt? No, but

1214
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: he's ever been the miners ten days.

1215
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: He can come back up and I know, but who

1216
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 2: do we send down?

1217
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure someone who pitched today as Smith. I

1218
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: guess he still has options. Yeah, I don't know, whatever,

1219
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: but you're probably gonna need something to piggyback on Peterson.

1220
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: He needs to pick whichever of his two pitches are

1221
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: the favorite, and we need to get through three innings

1222
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: with him. That's it. Just get through three innings, maybe

1223
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: four if he's really feeling himself, and then let's attack

1224
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: as we go along. Hopefully we really have nine runs

1225
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: off Jake Arietta by that point and we're smooth sailing.

1226
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: Yep. Lukazy treatment God streaming with Kitty Glove's got to

1227
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: take positive outings Mets did with Lukaz early on and

1228
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: look what it's built into. Yes, he's able to go

1229
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: five now and give us a really good five innings.

1230
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: We got to build that confidence up for Peter.

1231
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: He's confident enough that he wants to go six and seven,

1232
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: even eight.

1233
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: Love to hear it. Don't agree, but I'd love to

1234
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: hear it. Yeah, So big series coming up against the

1235
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: Cubs here, another above five hundred team that a lot

1236
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: of people are gonna be watching out how we perform

1237
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: against them. Same thing. Cubs fans are probably looking at

1238
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: the Cubs and saying, how are they going to perform

1239
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 2: against a good team like the New York Mets. This

1240
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: is going to be another playoff like Atmosphere, There's gonna

1241
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: be a lot of people at the games. I think

1242
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: this week is supposed to be very nice.

1243
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going Monday and Tuesday, yep.

1244
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: And I'll be there Tuesday for our boy Ernie's birthday.

1245
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 2: So that should be a lot of fun. Hopefully you

1246
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: guys are out to the stadium. If you are, come

1247
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: say what's up? And I mean, I think that pretty

1248
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: much takes us out here. I don't think we have

1249
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: anything else here to talk about with the Mets. Great series,

1250
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: great weekend, great series, great weekend, big series. Come up

1251
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: against the Chicago Cubs. Hopefully we stay hot, keep winning games,

1252
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 2: and keep playing good baseball. That's really what I want

1253
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: to see. Mets can lose some games, but play good baseball,

1254
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 2: and they have been doing that even when they do lose.

1255
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: So that's gonna take us to the end here of

1256
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: episode number twenty three of the Mets Up Podcast. You

1257
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: know where to follow us on Twitter and Instagram Mets Up.

1258
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: Same thing with YouTube, Messed Up Podcast, Listen to us

1259
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: on Spotify, Google podcasts, Apple podcasts, anywhere you find them

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00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: you'll be able to listen to us. Thank you so

1261
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 2: much guys for listening again to episode number twenty three.

1262
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: We appreciate you and we'll catch you all after this

1263
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: Cup series. For episode number twenty four, peace out.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.