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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, all right, So Richard doing good? Can you

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Speaker 1: start asking about Greg last week? And you know his

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Speaker 1: history better than anyone, But to be able to come

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Speaker 1: he had, what he says about him and what that

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Speaker 1: does for a player doing both Kiker going forward? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's been through it before where he's you know,

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Speaker 1: had a bad a bad game, and he's always responded.

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of having like a cornerback mentality is

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Speaker 1: you know, you get beat on a plane, you got

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Speaker 1: to have a real fast memory. I guess you could

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Speaker 1: say and move on to the next player, But um,

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Speaker 1: I've been with Greg now for ten seasons, so I've

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Speaker 1: been through a lot of highs and a couple of loads,

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Speaker 1: and he's always responded out of a bad game or

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Speaker 1: a miskick. And so isn't it poetic justice? And how

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Speaker 1: that football thing turns where the very next game he

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Speaker 1: gets a shot at a big game winner nails it. You.

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Speaker 1: We're on the sideline. We could have been more confident.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was on a headset and it just

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Speaker 1: said this game's over, this game's over. Process. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to block them, put yep. Um. The thought process was,

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Speaker 1: I think Cowboys fans aren't the play it safe type,

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Speaker 1: so I was gonna give them what they wanted, come

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Speaker 1: after their asshole punt rush. So I hope they're happy

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Speaker 1: with it because we came. We came after him. Um.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the mindset going into the game and

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Speaker 1: And you can sure debate everything, um, but I'm still

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Speaker 1: not so sure that we actually roughed them. Did they

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Speaker 1: call him at Kamara or felt like it was a

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Speaker 1: blocking mitue? Yeah, I didn't get who they actually a

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Speaker 1: jersey number because it was a train wreck right there

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Speaker 1: at the block spot. But what I got on film

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Speaker 1: is that they're number forty hooked Kamara and pulled them

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Speaker 1: back into the punter. And you know, I think you

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Speaker 1: to come after him. There's a risk there, and you know,

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Speaker 1: if you know obviously got that situation though, you have

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Speaker 1: a chance to get the ball back. Yeah, that the

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Speaker 1: risk reward there. I mean Certainly you can debate whether

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Speaker 1: it was block Pillington or not, but that's the risk

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Speaker 1: you're taking that you could get that. But the rks

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Speaker 1: the punter like that. Yeah, I mean, ay, time you

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Speaker 1: last week, Pittsburgh is up by three points in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter and they were rushed the punt, they blocked

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Speaker 1: reward is high, the risk is high. Um, but you

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Speaker 1: was what the same is the Pittsburgh is two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think you know, going into the game,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to put the trigger because I'm worried about,

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Speaker 1: you know, roughing the punter. Then anytime you rush, you

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Speaker 1: TV copy shows a pretty good picture of maybe something

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. But part of our game plan

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Speaker 1: aggressive mindset. Give the Cowboys fans something what they're looking for.

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Speaker 1: How does it go on the sideline with a human

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Speaker 1: to rush that punt? That was my decision. You just

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Speaker 1: in Greg lastly competence this week, but in that end

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Speaker 1: of game situation where the clock's running down, what's your

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Speaker 1: But the goal was to get to the forty five

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Speaker 1: You probably don't kick that if you know eighteen seconds left,

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Speaker 1: What informs that many get to pick up on us

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Speaker 1: Is that something that he normally does or does there

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Speaker 1: Greg put that ball in his bag. That'll be one

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Speaker 1: for the memory bank for him and pro he's at

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Speaker 1: bad games before and all that. But just what do

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Speaker 1: You know, I gotta be careful talking about Greg's bad

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Speaker 1: He can do everything, and he wants he literally wants

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Speaker 1: get more opportunity to time offense and defense. What was

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Speaker 1: your prectics like three, establishing which person I will be

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Speaker 1: using into what the care you called. You're not using

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Speaker 1: Luke Gifford we got active. So there's a ton of

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Speaker 1: my job is to be a good roster shuffler and

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Speaker 1: find homes for everybody as the football turns. And one

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Speaker 1: over the place. So we try to keep it pretty

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Speaker 1: a lot, all right, thank you guys,