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Speaker 1: Have we talked to Deborah Saunders white House, correspondent for

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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Review Journal since that lady snuck in tomorrow? Longgo,

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Speaker 1: don't we have? I think it may have come up briefly,

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Speaker 1: but not as much was known then. Anyway, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk to her about the DHS, some of the

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Speaker 1: changing jobs going to shake up. It's a major shake up,

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Speaker 1: jack Um. I don't know if you've heard this. Immigration

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Speaker 1: is a big topic, seems to be in the news.

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Speaker 1: Law President talks about it a lot. Immigration to the

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Speaker 1: United States and people coming into the United States, both

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Speaker 1: through legal means and illegally. Wait a minute, illegally, then

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Speaker 1: are they arrested and removed? Um? So I thought this

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Speaker 1: was kind of interesting. I worried something I worried sometimes

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Speaker 1: when uh as we think about how to deal with

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Speaker 1: the immigration issue, we we think that any moves towards

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Speaker 1: the assimilation of the existing of newcomers to the existing

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Speaker 1: culture is somehow the trail. Should we want to encourage

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Speaker 1: newcomers to learn the language of the country they're moving to.

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Speaker 1: Of course, does that mean that they can never use

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Speaker 1: their own language? No, of course that it doesn't mean that,

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Speaker 1: But it's you know, it's not racist to say, if

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Speaker 1: you're going to be here, then you should learn the

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Speaker 1: language of the country that you just arrived at. Good luck, Mama,

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Speaker 1: good luck getting the nomination, Barack Obama. It's just like

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Speaker 1: a racist to say it's not racist. That is so clearly,

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Speaker 1: undeniably self evident. Anybody who disagreed with it, I would

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Speaker 1: want checked from mental illness. I am moving to France.

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Speaker 1: The first priority I would have for myself and my

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Speaker 1: entire family would be to learn as much French as

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Speaker 1: humanly possible. That's just obvious. How about your kids showing

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Speaker 1: up in school and not speaking a word of the language. God,

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Speaker 1: that's just that's rough. I I see that it happened,

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Speaker 1: shouting at the French teacher. What about my heritage? Huh

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Speaker 1: in English. It's just when you when you take it

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Speaker 1: away from the overheated unicornian illogical rhetoric that that somehow

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Speaker 1: has gained currency, that it just seems stupid. That was

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Speaker 1: it's discouraging. It's a little frightening to even have to

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Speaker 1: argue against that point of view because it's so looney tunes.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't an old tape. By the way, and they

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Speaker 1: often people play stuff from Barack Obama back in the day,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it seems like it was fifty

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Speaker 1: years ago politically because times have changed so much. But

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Speaker 1: that was over the weekend. He said a couple of

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Speaker 1: interesting things. He said that. He also said, I'm concerned

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Speaker 1: that we have the circular fire firing squad going on

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Speaker 1: among the candidates that are Democrats over who's pure enough.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that little thing there was to

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Speaker 1: give some of them some cover to be able to

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Speaker 1: come out and say, yeah, that is that is a

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Speaker 1: good idea that people should have, you know, because you

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Speaker 1: can get the nomination by saying that, because I think

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Speaker 1: if you just said that out loud, you'd get killed. Yes,

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Speaker 1: which which brings us to I think the ultimate point,

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Speaker 1: and that's a notion, for instance, that you shouldn't have immigrants,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't, shouldn't encourage them to assimilate, to learn the language.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy, but it is. It's become so

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Speaker 1: accepted because the outward five percent controls the conversation, and

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Speaker 1: that sort of crazy notion controls the conversation, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't control people's perception across America and So while there's

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Speaker 1: no room for anybody to say anything but that in

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Speaker 1: Democrats circles, most voters are thinking, Um, I think it's

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Speaker 1: okay to ask people to learn English when they speak here.

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Speaker 1: And so Obama is a practical enough politician to know

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Speaker 1: that the wacky five percent is going to kill the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party's chances to get elected. That there was a

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Speaker 1: point to that message, right to say it's racist to

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Speaker 1: say people need to learn to speak English. I think

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Speaker 1: that's given cover to any candidates that want to say

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Speaker 1: that out woud and give you a much better chance

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Speaker 1: to get an elected. Right. Um, because I doubt anybody's

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Speaker 1: going to disagree with Barack Obama is still the most

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Speaker 1: popular Democrat in the country. They would do so gently.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, he now gives people cover to say,

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Speaker 1: as Barack Obama said just the other day, So Kate

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Speaker 1: asked them to learn to speak English again. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like you know, it's having a discussion with your spouse. Um,

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Speaker 1: so we've decided we're not going to set fire to

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Speaker 1: the house while we sleep tonight. I mean, why are

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Speaker 1: we having this discussion? What sort of bizarre world have

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Speaker 1: we entered where it's even necessary to have this discussion.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It freaks me out a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but I suppose, you know, we might as well have it.

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Speaker 1: Point out how bizarre it is me sitting there in

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Speaker 1: a German classroom as a teenager. Now, why aren't you

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Speaker 1: speaking English to me? Because this is Germany? And not

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Speaker 1: only are you an immigrant, I we think you snuck

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Speaker 1: into the country. How how dare you? Who are you? What? What?

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Speaker 1: Where do you get off? They would quite properly ask, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're a racist? I know is the matter with this country?

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Speaker 1: I personally know a lot of people in a number

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Speaker 1: of different crowds that I'm associated with, that if I

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Speaker 1: said out loud, like standing around in their backyard, people

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Speaker 1: come here, need to learn to speak English, people would

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Speaker 1: look at me like I was a Nazi. I guarantee you. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: and Barack Obama just said it. I want to get

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Speaker 1: this other one into Bernie Sanders, who doesn't get enough

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Speaker 1: credit for being anti illegal immigration. He said that several

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Speaker 1: times over the years because he's a socialist, and socialist

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Speaker 1: programs don't work unless you have a limit on who

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Speaker 1: you're going to let into the country exactly. Um, this

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Speaker 1: is Bernie Sanders. If your point there's you open the bulls.

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Speaker 1: My god, you know, there's a lot of poverty in

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Speaker 1: this world, and you're gonna have people from all over

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Speaker 1: the world, and I don't think that's something that we

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Speaker 1: can do at this point. Can't do it. You can't

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Speaker 1: have a massive welfare state and not control your borders.

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Speaker 1: You just can't do it. It doesn't work. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: work anyway, but it definitely doesn't work if you're just

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Speaker 1: gonna allow anybody to come in a never ending supply

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Speaker 1: of takers. No, that will drag the system down. It

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Speaker 1: will depress working class wages. And the rest of everybody

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Speaker 1: knows that. I don't know. I mean, unless they're so

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Speaker 1: deluded by their ideology they've lost the capacity for logic.