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Speaker 1: he kind of stirred up the internet yesterday where he

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Speaker 1: said he would take Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. He'll

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Speaker 1: tell you why. We'll have that for you coming up

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Speaker 1: and also what problem or problems he has with Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence going into the NFL. If you're a fan of

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Speaker 1: TNT's Inside the NBA, you got a treat coming up.

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Speaker 1: Then Network is airing a four part documentary about the show.

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Speaker 1: It starts tonight. It's it's interesting. As successful as it is,

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Speaker 1: Inside the NBA is not a model that you can copy. Now.

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Speaker 1: The Mothership tried to copy that and they realize you can't,

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Speaker 1: you can't capture that. But we've seen this with a

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Speaker 1: lot of shows like Pardon the Interruption. You can't. You

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Speaker 1: can't replicate it. Now, that doesn't stop people from trying

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Speaker 1: to do it. The Fox Pregame show when in its infancies,

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Speaker 1: when you had you know, Terry and Howie, Chris collins

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Speaker 1: Worth was on there. You know you had a show

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Speaker 1: where you went, boy, that's fun or that's the way

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Speaker 1: we want to do it. Well, you can't do it.

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Speaker 1: There's only one Chris Berman in this business. There's only

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Speaker 1: one Dick v twel in this business, you know there,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't stop people for looking. Now we're looking

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Speaker 1: for the next Tony Romo, and in a couple of

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Speaker 1: years we'll be looking for somebody else. That's how it

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Speaker 1: works inside the NBA. You can't replicate it because of

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Speaker 1: Charles and Shack. And you know, Ernie is so brilliant

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and Kenny Smith adding his flavor as well.

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Speaker 1: But give him credit. Tim Kylie is one of the

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Speaker 1: geniuses behind the shows. I worked with Tim at the Mothership.

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Speaker 1: He's a producer, executive producer. Lenny Daniels was their director.

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Speaker 1: I think he's still their director. I worked with him

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Speaker 1: at ESPN. You know, they they were seasoned in what

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Speaker 1: we did at ESPN and they took that and then

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Speaker 1: they went crazy. When you know, you get Charles and

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Speaker 1: then you bring in Shack. I mean, Charles alone can

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Speaker 1: they really don't care if somebody gets their feelings hurt,

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Speaker 1: you get embarrassed. They make fun of each other. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna make fun of themselves before you do. But Ernie

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Speaker 1: track when he needs to. Ernie, you'll join us on

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Speaker 1: the show tomorrow. But you know, at times do they

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Speaker 1: go above and beyond the call of duty? Yeah, calling

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Speaker 1: You know. They have a segment where they give him

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Speaker 1: To me, is a show that probably is at least

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Speaker 1: Nobody's going to watch this? And I just remember there

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Speaker 1: there and talked, exchange their opinions, but their personalities they blend.

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Speaker 1: imitators when it comes to that. There were a lot

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Speaker 1: But when you think of the NBA you think of

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Speaker 1: do with that show. So part of the documentary and look,

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Speaker 1: I was effusive in my compliments my praise for that

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Speaker 1: because I understand it when you do it and then

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Speaker 1: the impact you have with the number of shows people

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Speaker 1: see that and it's not just on you know, sports

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Speaker 1: somebody's trying to do what you do, or at least

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Speaker 1: add their own personality to it. Yeah, I think going

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Speaker 1: back to Sports Center, sports Center been on for a

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Speaker 1: long time before you and Keith showed up. I mean

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Speaker 1: watching college. You felt like the guys we hung out

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Speaker 1: were guys are twins. You guys were actually felt like opposites.

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Speaker 1: He felt like the for some reason. He felt like

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Speaker 1: whatever our approach was inside the NBA on TNT. The

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Speaker 1: But I look forward to the documentary because rightfully so,

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Speaker 1: especially voters, the voters for the Sports Emmy. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: now look the Sports Emmy Committee, they do a wonderful

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Speaker 1: Now the other people that, yeah, it's the voters who don't.

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Speaker 1: This is what I understand. And this is certainly behind

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Speaker 1: are looking at him, that they really believe in this

423
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: guy like he you can look at him and know

424
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: that he's got a sense of urgency about him. He

425
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 1: does have confidence about him, and he can he can

426
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: kind of calm the storm and just kind of keep

427
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: everybody right in line and let them know that, man, listen,

428
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: if you just this guy will do his job if

429
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: I do my job. And I think that's that's kind

430
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: of the guy we're looking for. Are the Lions sat

431
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacking position? It's a good question that's a

432
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: good question. I would say all options are open would

433
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: be the best way to say that. I think that

434
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: we feel pretty good with where we're going right now,

435
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: but yet we're we're open to everything right now. When

436
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: did you watch your initial press conference with the Lions? Like,

437
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: did you watch it after the fact? No? I didn't.

438
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: Now I had, I had friends that were sending me

439
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: bits and pieces of it, but I have not watched

440
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: the entirety of it. No. What did you think of

441
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: your performance? Um, I mean I was it was fine.

442
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I look, I I'm kind of a look

443
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: I wear my heart on my sleeve a little bit.

444
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: It's just kind of who I am, and it's hard

445
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: for me to be something that I'm not. And so

446
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: that was I just felt like I wanted to do

447
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: something for the city of Detroit, our fans, and I

448
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: wanted our players. That was kind of my first introduction

449
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: to our players, if you will, and so I just

450
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: kind of felt like that's who I needed to talk to.

451
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: And then once I get gone a little bit, man,

452
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: it just kind of it goes, you know, it goes

453
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: from there. And for everybody that thinks that I don't

454
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: know that Biden kneecaps is not a personal foul in

455
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: the NFL. Believe me, I know that. So I totally

456
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: get that. I loved it. You were passionate, but you

457
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: were violent in that press conference. Did you hear from

458
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: mom or I mean, did you hear from anybody sort

459
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: of outside that football bubble that went, Man, who are you? No? Well, no,

460
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: I would say, because the people that I heard from

461
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: are all people that know me, and they know exactly

462
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: who I am. So to them, I think they it

463
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: was right in line with what they knew I was.

464
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: And that's just kind of me. And and that's that's

465
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: kind of how I talk, you know, And look, you

466
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: can't take everything literally, but yet I just want there

467
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: to be this. I do want us to have a

468
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: toughness about us. Where the league now has changed in

469
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: such a way for the better, but also maybe not

470
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: always for the better, and yet there's still this element

471
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: of man, you gotta have you gotta be tough, you

472
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: gotta be a tough player. It's a tough man's game,

473
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: and you know, you get bumps and bruises, you don't

474
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: always feel good. And so to me, it's, you know,

475
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: one of the edges that I think you can still

476
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: have is even in today's game. Is how do you

477
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: how do you teach your players to aid overcome adversity,

478
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: but then to understand that. Listen, man, your your days

479
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: of being one hundred percent you feel one hundred percent,

480
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: those are gone. When you walk in the door, you're

481
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: one hundred percent is a rookie and after that you're done.

482
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: So this whole thought of men I got to feel perfect.

483
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: You forget about it, man, Not if you want to,

484
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: not if you want to be able to produce and

485
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: to have a nice long career in this league. It

486
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: just doesn't exist. The guys who can say, you know

487
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: what I can, I could beat your ass at eighty

488
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: five percent of what I really am. Those are the

489
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: those are the guys you're looking for. But look, as fans,

490
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: we want physicality, but the NFL doesn't want more physicality.

491
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: How do you, knowing who you are, how do you

492
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: teach what you want to teach but understand under the

493
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: guidelines of the NFL coach? Yeah, sure, and those are

494
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: That's the key, isn't it. I Mean, that's that is

495
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: the key. That's that's kind of to the point I'm

496
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: making is like, how do we get disadvantage back of

497
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: this aggressive tough team knowing where the league has gone

498
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: and the standards that have been set. And there again,

499
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the standards, but I

500
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: get it, like, look, there's ways to be aggressive it

501
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: and knock the crap out of somebody without it leading

502
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: with your head. Man, there's different ways to do this thing.

503
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much information that's come out and

504
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: so much more that we know about the game and

505
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: even when I play, and so we're not going to

506
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: be out there to be a bunch of renegades that

507
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: are going to be you know, spearing people and we're

508
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: getting kicked out of the game. That's not what we're

509
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: going to be about. But I didn't want. I want

510
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: us to have some type of edge here of toughness.

511
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: And it doesn't just mean this physical toughness. I'm talking

512
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: about mental toughness, man, to where these guys understand that

513
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: adversity is just a word, that's all it is. And

514
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: the minute you choose that that's all it is is

515
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: a word. Man, you get through it so much faster

516
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: you go over it, you go under it, you go

517
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: through it, but you get out on the other side,

518
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm scaped. I can't imagine your first pep talk with

519
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: that first game, like you're going to be out of

520
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: your skin, right, like are you gonna be breaking stuff

521
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: and banging stuff? And oh, I you know, well, look

522
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: it depends on what's around. But no, have you done

523
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: that before? Do you break stuff? No, I'm not. No,

524
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a break I'm not a break guy. I

525
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: broke one thing before, but I don't break things all

526
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: the time. That's not who I am. I don't run

527
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: around hitting stuff and bringing baseball bats and that's not me.

528
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm just Look, I'm a passionate guy, that's all. And

529
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I owe it to people.

530
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: I owe it to my players, I wut to my coaches.

531
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: I owe it to anybody that's around me for them

532
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: to know exactly who I am. And I feel like

533
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: the only way to do that is, for the most part,

534
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: you speak from your heart. And look, I'm going to

535
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: state the obvious. It gets me in trouble sometimes it

536
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: just does. But I'm sorry. It's hard for me not

537
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: to be It's hard for me to act like something

538
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: that i'm not or say something that's written down on

539
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: a piece of paper all the time. That's just hard

540
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: for me to do. And you know, I'd rather just

541
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: speak with on my mind. You think you could take

542
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: Rabel in the octagon, that's a great question, man, Listen.

543
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I Brabel and I we obviously we played against each other.

544
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: He was a hell of a player, man, And he's

545
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: one of those guys. He's a he's a freaking he's

546
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: a man. And and so if you're asking me right now,

547
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: hell no, I couldn't do shit right now. Language you know, listen,

548
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: Brabel's a stud man. I got a lot of respect

549
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: for Rabel. I don't know what that is behind you.

550
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: It looks like when you put X rays up there. Uh,

551
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: like the light that shines on that, Yeah, that's bothered you. Well, no,

552
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know if that's what that's for, Like you

553
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: could put X rays up there and look at him. Yeah,

554
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: every once in a while, just to see how my

555
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: body is back. But it looks like, but what's the

556
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: most pain you ever played in? Um? I geez man,

557
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I uh well, I'll tell you what.

558
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: You know what as funny as this is, like, I

559
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: guess I ended up having in my time as an

560
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: NFL player. I think I had oh, I want to say,

561
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: thirteen surgeries just from you know. Now, A lot of

562
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: those were clean up, but some of them were in

563
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: ir injury. So I had some I guess what you'd

564
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: call major injuries. But after all of those beings said,

565
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the one that hurt the worst was

566
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: actually I was at Dallas. We're playing Detroit. I caught

567
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 1: a ball, I turned up, and man, I got hit

568
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: right in the freaking thigh and uh he put his

569
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: helmet right in the middle of my thigh and I

570
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: got what, you know, I got a thigh bruise and

571
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: a Charlie horse and it was one of those I

572
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: hit the ground and I remember I just wanted to

573
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: throw up, you know, And I got up, I got

574
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: back and I didn't come out and kept going and

575
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: and luckily we were we were winning pretty good, and

576
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: so about call it, you know, eight minutes later, I

577
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, they pulled the starters out of the game.

578
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: But my gosh, that thing, it hurt. I thought every

579
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: time I was gonna run after that, I was gonna

580
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: throw up because it hurt. That was one of the

581
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: worst ones, as crazy as that is. And that's really

582
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: not a big injury at all. That's nothing, but man,

583
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: it was painful and as a matter of fact, I

584
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: got you would be shocked how bad I got messed

585
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: with that. So I had the normal fipads right, But

586
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: after I got the Charlie Horse, I'm not kidding. This

587
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: thing was like because saying my fivepad looked like this,

588
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: but he was huge. So I started wearing these ginormous fipads. Everybody,

589
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: my teammates would just mess with me all the time.

590
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: I go on the camel's Oh my god, man, and

591
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: they looked like notebooks a minute. One of our teammate.

592
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of freaking thib ruis in a game. I'd

593
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: be the first mover there, like to find them up.

594
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: How is parcels to you? Parcels was great, man, I

595
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: got the utmost respect for parcels. I loved Parcels of Death.

596
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: And here's whine because I always respected him, you know,

597
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: And I can tell you right now there was plenty

598
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: of times where I just had it with him, and

599
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: you just there's you just you want to let him

600
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: have it because you can't stand the guy anymore. But man,

601
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: he told you exactly where you stood, and he was

602
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: a master motivator. He knew exactly how to push your

603
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: buttons and get the most out of it. But he

604
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: also was one percent fair with you. He told you

605
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: what was going on. If you wanted to know where

606
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: you stood, go right to his office and he'll tell

607
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you exactly where he's tending. Now, you better be ready

608
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: because he's about to tell you the truth. You may

609
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: hear something you don't want to hear, but he was listen.

610
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: He was great and for as hard as Bill was,

611
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: and he was a hard coach man, but yet guy,

612
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: he had a great personality and he just knew how

613
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: to He knew how to communicate to everybody of all

614
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: walks of life. And he had a sense of humor,

615
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: you know he did. I enjoyed my time with Bill,

616
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: and I learned a lot of lessons under him. How

617
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: many touchdown receptions do you have? Levin? Does that sound right? Uh?

618
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: Somewhere in there? I think just to tick over tens.

619
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: I think in my career, best one, your most memorable one? Yeah,

620
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: I actually I know that one because that was two

621
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: thousand and five. I was at Dallas. We're playing in

622
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City, and I've kind of told this story before.

623
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: This was everybody who knows Bill. It was. You know,

624
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: you you basically allow your opponent to beat themselves. You

625
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: don't beat yourself. You don't turn the ball over. You

626
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: find a way to run the ball. You know, you

627
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: get inefficient third downs because you're able to do some

628
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: things on first second down. You know you're getting these

629
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: fourth downs. You put it, you know, you pin him,

630
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: play good defense, all those and I remember he came

631
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: in that week. This is when they had the number

632
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: one offense in the league, the Priest Holmes and and

633
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: those guys, and he said, listen, we're taking the cups off.

634
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Speaker 1: He actually walked in. The first thing he said it

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Speaker 1: was defense. We had a real good defense too. By

636
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: the way, he said, defense, you got your hands full.

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00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: And he said, offense, you guys are gonna have to

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Speaker 1: score thirty five to win this game. I mean, he

639
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: just and that was so uncharacteristic of something that Bill

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Speaker 1: would tell us. But long storage short, we got in

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Speaker 1: a shootout and we were aggressive. Bill took the cups

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Speaker 1: off and Sean Sean called the hell of a game.

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00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: Sean Payton called the hell of a game. And you know,

644
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Speaker 1: and I can't tell the exact score, but it was

645
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Speaker 1: in the thirties and basically into the game, and you know,

646
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Speaker 1: for the win, we did a little pop pass and

647
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: it was on on the goal line and I just

648
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: blocked the defensive end, slipped out and uh, you know,

649
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Speaker 1: BLEDSOE put it on me and we won the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, but it was kind of one of those

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Speaker 1: you remember. It was just kind of special because everything

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Speaker 1: worked to a t as to what coach said it would,

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00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: and you know, and look, it was so easy for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I rarely did go out on routes

655
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Speaker 1: and so I'm always block and so all I gotta

656
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Speaker 1: do is just block one more time or act like

657
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: I am then slip out. Nobody's gonna cover you. So

658
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: it was the easiest thing ever. But it was pretty good.

659
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Speaker 1: Did you come up with the camo design for the

660
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: Detroit lines? No? Actually, this was this is what they

661
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: had last year. This was everything was what it was

662
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: in your shirt, the shirt same way, the camo. This

663
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: is a gear that they had here last year. And

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Speaker 1: so I like it though, kind of feels like it

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Speaker 1: matches me, fits me a little bit. Yeah, I could

666
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Speaker 1: see you in a you know, a duck bind or somebody,

667
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Speaker 1: you know, something like that. You got to dip in

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Speaker 1: right now? No, are you sure? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure. Maybe hold on, I

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Speaker 1: can check. Okay, Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, okay, you're good.

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Speaker 1: You look like you you'd have a dip in. Well

672
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: when when you've done things for many years, sometimes it

673
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: looks like you got it in and lips pulled that way. So, uh, coach,

674
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: good luck and good luck when that blonde quarterback comes

675
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Speaker 1: your way. We're number sixteen here officially in a few weeks.

676
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Thank you Dan.

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00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: That's Dan Campbell, Lions head coach. And uh, I'll get

678
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Speaker 1: you fired up. Let's go Lions. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, Paul,

679
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: just check my notes. That's the first NFL coach you

680
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: asked if they had to dip in this year? Oh,

681
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: this year, this season? Yeah yeah yeah. He had eleven

682
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: eleven receiving touchdowns in his career. He wants no part

683
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Speaker 1: of Rabel though, I tell you that, No, No, raybels Man. Yeah, yeah, man,

684
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Speaker 1: we'll take a break, you know, the Jared Golf comment.

685
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: All options are open Almond's kind of interesting that might

686
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Speaker 1: make a headliner two in the Detroit area. We'll take

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Speaker 1: a break, last call for phone calls. We'll wrap up

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Speaker 1: things on The Dan Patrick Show after this. Thanks for

689
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Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

690
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Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern

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Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you

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Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR, or

693
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Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock App. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring back what Chris Simms said in the first hour

695
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Speaker 1: because he put out his rankings of these quarterbacks and

696
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: he has Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. If he was drafting,

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Speaker 1: he would take Zach Wilson over Trevor Lawrence. And Chris

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Speaker 1: Simms gave you the reason why in the first hour

699
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Speaker 1: of why he would do that. I'm blown away by

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Dan. You know, I look at it and

701
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: look at it and say, this isn't Aaron Rodgers and

702
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes at Brett Farvish type guy. You know one.

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00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: He's a more consistent bullseye dead eye thrower. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I mean that with you know, and I love

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. He's worthy of the number one pick. I

706
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Speaker 1: know I'm getting a lot of crap about that. I'm

707
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Speaker 1: not trying to make this about Oh, he's not good.

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00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot to love about him. But Zach Wilson,

709
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: it's just every ball is a perfect spiral on the money.

710
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: All the plays that are there to be had for

711
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: easing completions, he really never misses. And then it's the

712
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: plays when there's nothing there that he is really special

713
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: and able to create and buy time and make unbelievable

714
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: plays with his arm and his ability to deliver the

715
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: ball in magician like ways like a Mahomes or an

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So that's Chris Simms talking about Zach Wilson.

717
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Speaker 1: And he said, look, I'm a casual college football observer,

718
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: but I'm breaking down game film now. And he said,

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00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: what I always want to focus in on is your

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00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: worst performance. And he still loves Zach Wilson more than

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Here is Chris Simms talking about what he

722
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: thinks Trevor Lawrence needs to work on. To me, it's

723
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: just some refining for me. And again, I expect Trevor

724
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Speaker 1: Lawrence to be the number one pick. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's better than Zach Wilson. But with Jacksonville Urban Meyer,

726
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: he runs a collegey type offense. I could see, you know,

727
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: it's a great fit. Let alone Trevor Lawrence in that

728
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: region of the country. He knows he's a big deal.

729
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: He's a big deal altogether. But I think it's more

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Speaker 1: of just the consistency of throwing that I looked at

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00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Dan that I didn't expect to see. You know, as

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00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: I turned the film on, I knew I was gonna

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00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: see a lot of awesome plays and all of that,

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Speaker 1: and I really liked Trevor Lawrence again, but there were

735
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: more miss throws and errant throws than I expected to

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Speaker 1: see as I started to go through it. And of course, hey,

737
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: his team is really good, and you know they have

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Speaker 1: a special way of calling a game or yea, you

739
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: gotta worry about a screen to eight TN and you

740
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: gotta worry as a screen to receiver and then they

741
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: think that and there's somebody opened wide open down the

742
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: middle of the field. He's awesome prospect, like I said,

743
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: definitely worthy of the number one pick. I just think

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00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's are ready to go NFL system superstar right now.

745
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: I had an NFL scout who sent this to me

746
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: last commercial break. This was this is his assessment of

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00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, and I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it to

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00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: your attention tomorrow because I don't have enough time. I

749
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: do want to bring back Dan Campbell had to say

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Speaker 1: the Lions head coach when I talked to him about

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Speaker 1: his quarterbacking situation. Now understand, going into the interview, I

752
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: was told, you cannot coach, will not say Jared Goff's name.

753
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: He can't. But this is about the direction of the franchise,

754
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: and I'll just play a portion of it because it

755
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: surprised me when I asked him if they were set

756
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacking position. Let's do the hypothetical game. What

757
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: do you want your quarterback? What traits are you looking

758
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: for in your quarterback? If you happen to get a

759
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: new one instead of Matthew Stafford, what traits would you

760
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: be looking for? What trade would we be looking for?

761
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: What trade rates would we'd be looking for. Yeah, I

762
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: would say that you'd love the guy to be blind,

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Speaker 1: You'd love the guy to have a one in a

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Speaker 1: six on his Jersey you'd love for a Now, I look, man,

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Speaker 1: you're looking for a guy who is a winner. See,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want This is the

767
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: wrong cut it should be. You know that he's talking

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Speaker 1: about they're not set at the quarter backing position, all right,

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00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. They're they're open to all options here.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't want to play that that bike

771
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: because there's there's nothing. We were pretty shocked when he

772
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: said it because he did a long pause when you asked,

773
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: he said all options are open. Yeah, that that's what

774
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 1: was surprising. Yeah. See, but did he say that because

775
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: he's not allowed to talk about the quarterbacking situation right now?

776
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: There's sort of this gray area of what he's allowed

777
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: to say and what he's not allowed to say. Well,

778
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: then he said all options. But then I think he said,

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00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: but I think we're said at the quarterbacking position. Does

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00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: that sound right? Man? He said, yeah, he says something

781
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: to the effect that I think we're in great shape

782
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. But it sounded to me like

783
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: the big message touts we're all set, we like where

784
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: we are, but all options are still open and in

785
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: general says it didn't sound like I got to replace golf.

786
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: But it did feel like a window is cracked open

787
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: for the draft. A guy just maybe that was I

788
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: don't ask really do it. I don't know if it

789
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: was cracked, it was rolled down. I was surprised because

790
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: it felt like, yeah, yeah, we like where we are,

791
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: but you got seventh pick overall. Yeah. See, It's just

792
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: so that's got to be a weird spot to be

793
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: in where you know that this is happening, but you

794
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: know you can't say anything about it at the same time.

795
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: And I mean, it's just so silly. But he's knew

796
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: it this as well. This is first head coaching job,

797
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: and you're right dealing with the hypothetical. And in fairness

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00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: to him, maybe he was answering in a hypothetical, not

799
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Speaker 1: in reality. But I was surprised when he said all

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Speaker 1: options are on the table. Oh, let's see final results.

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Speaker 1: Pull question. Do you have a this Daine sports history? Paulie, Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is Wayne Gretzky. This day in sports history scored

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Speaker 1: his seventy eight, seventy ninth, eightieth, and eighty first goals

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Speaker 1: of the season. There's a lot of Wayne Gretzky stats

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Speaker 1: out there, but rarely do go and this is the

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Speaker 1: and twelve points one year he might have Yes MC club. Oh, Paul,

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Speaker 1: do you believe in UFO sixty three percent? Yes? Tod?

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Speaker 1: What did I learn on today's program? NFL teams love

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