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Speaker 1: That's oh, it's my Guy Kensler ready to sound off

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Speaker 1: on UFC three to zero two. Guy was going fucking

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Speaker 1: sick in the pre show meeting. Great to have everybody

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Speaker 1: with us live edition of the Anic and Floring podcast

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Speaker 1: on I'm Monday. It is Monday, June third, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: twelve oh four pm Eastern Standard time. It's great to

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Speaker 1: see you. We got a ton to get into. We're

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Speaker 1: going to do at least a power hour here on

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Speaker 1: UFC three to zero two. But we were delaying this

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Speaker 1: show until about one thirty pm Eastern time today because

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Speaker 1: we were gonna wait and ingest the press conference in Dublin,

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Speaker 1: Ireland between Connor McGregor and Michael Chandler Ken Flow and

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Speaker 1: as you might have heard, that press conference, at least

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Speaker 1: for the time being, has been postponed.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Yes, what is going on? Is there

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Speaker 2: an injury? Are we moving the fight back? Is this

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Speaker 2: just the conferences? Did Connor want a little break? Is

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Speaker 4: Air right now heading to Dublin Worth? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: John?

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Speaker 1: This certainly opens things up to speculation and narratives like

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Speaker 1: you just laid out for everybody. So thank you Kenflo

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Speaker 1: for that. So I can tell you, like my ESPN

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Speaker 1: producer Charlie moynihan left Newark on Friday so as to

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Speaker 1: get there to cover this thing. It was going to

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Speaker 1: be an absolute fucking scene. Chandler never took off. I

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Speaker 1: know our coordinating producers at Candido was scheduled to go.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he left, but I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people were probably massively inconvenienced. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the ramifications as to why this was being canceled. I

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Speaker 1: understand why people would speculate, though, because you don't postpone

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Speaker 1: this thing, right right, Ah, because of all those factors,

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Speaker 1: unless you really need to write yes, yeah, very very

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Speaker 1: interesting man, very interesting. All right, Well, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: if they do rescheduled it. I think John Kavanaugh was frustrated.

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Speaker 1: More tickets weren't available, So if they do reschedule this thing,

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Speaker 1: they could sell out probably. I mean, can you imagine

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Speaker 1: how many tickets they could actually sell for this type

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Speaker 1: of press conference?

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Speaker 2: Like I paid to go, I paid moves the needle still, man,

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Speaker 2: there's no question about that, all right?

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Speaker 1: Today though, it is about Islamikashev and Dustin Pourier and

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Speaker 1: what a weekend. I mean, you can say what you

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Speaker 1: want about UFC three to ZHO two in totality, but

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Speaker 1: the main event it adds something for everyone, did it not?

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Speaker 1: UFC three to Zho two main event on Disputed Lightweight Championship.

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Speaker 1: It goes to is Lama Kashev with a submission at

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Speaker 1: two forty two of round five and Ken Flow. We

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Speaker 1: learned today that Islama Kashev had staff infection and that

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Speaker 1: limited some of his training. Perhaps that is neither here

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Speaker 1: nor there, but my biggest takeaway from this fight was

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Speaker 1: islamahaf Mikashev's ability, at that stage of that type of

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Speaker 1: fight to still find that type of takedown, in that

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Speaker 1: type of submission, and so much of the lead up

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Speaker 1: centered on Islamikashev's submission offense and just how good it was,

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Speaker 1: and over twenty five minutes he found one yet again.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm going to try to contain myself. I was

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Speaker 2: fired up leading into this, this show. I have to

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Speaker 2: bottle up all my emotions from Saturday night to Monday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: my man, So forgive me if I go a little crazy.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's what makes a champion.

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Speaker 2: That's what separates a champion from maybe the other elite

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Speaker 2: guys is you're inevitably going to experience these setbacks, whether

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Speaker 2: it's staff, infections, injuries, sicknesses, whatever it is outside family

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Speaker 2: life stuff. But the best will find a way to persevere.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what Isla Mahashif did.

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Speaker 2: More importantly though, and I know Habib Normaga Medov talked

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Speaker 2: That's what you get when you fight a guy like

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Speaker 2: a dusted pourier who is not going to go away easily.

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Speaker 2: Who's going to get the crowd behind him, Who's going

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Speaker 2: takedowns and his control was really good. That's what ultimately

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Speaker 2: was the superior striker on Saturday night. That's what's so

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Speaker 2: Total strikes landed one hundred and forty seven for Islam

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Speaker 4: And I know those are all spread out over the

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Speaker 2: But anytime Pourier was able to get any momentum shift

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Speaker 2: getting behind Poorier, it was Islam's sharp strikes, his combinations

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Speaker 4: And I thought it was just a brilliant performance overall.

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Speaker 2: Not perfect, not perfect, but it was brilliant because it

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Speaker 2: a Dustin pooriek All.

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Speaker 1: Right, so you rewatch the fight this morning, if you'd

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Speaker 1: your analysis, you and go round by round. I did

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Speaker 1: ask last week how a straight kickboxing match between Dustin

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Speaker 1: of a lean into Islamikashev's outstanding striking offense and defense.

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Speaker 1: But round by round ken flow in totality, How did

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Speaker 1: you see these near twenty five minutes between these two

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sir, Round one was obviously the most clear in

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Speaker 2: my opinion. That was domination by Islam both with his striking.

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Speaker 2: Round two I thought was very close, perhaps the closest

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Speaker 2: I thought it was Islam's round as well. Round three

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Speaker 2: He was just landing the cleaner strikes. Whether it was

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you can justify that. And yes,

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Speaker 2: Islam just did a great job.

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Speaker 4: Overall. Man, he's a problem on the feet and on

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Speaker 1: And you do get the sense. And I hope Arman

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Speaker 1: But if he is feeling great and he is on,

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Speaker 1: he's getting better. This experience is going to prove hugely valuable,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and having fought with this staph infection, I can

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dustin Poier fought a great fight. He really did.

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Speaker 1: and I felt like he was a little bit tense

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Speaker 1: Couldn't have been further from from the truth. I thought

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Speaker 1: I thought he he managed the fight pretty well. But

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Speaker 1: you know, just a little bit short. But just so

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Speaker 1: many amazing things we could say about both of these athletes.

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Speaker 1: Will segue to Dustin Pourier in a little bit far

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Speaker 1: as Islamiakashav is concerned, and I guess near perfection probably not.

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Speaker 1: But what are some of the things that you think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that for Islam, I think he's

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Speaker 2: going to realize that he has much better striking prehath.

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Speaker 4: That he even knew.

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Speaker 2: I think his ability to avoid some of the long

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Speaker 2: He didn't throw as many kicks as I was kind

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Speaker 2: The choke is not done with the squeezing of the arms,

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Speaker 2: Mahasha have had that in spades. The way he distributed

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Speaker 1: I love it, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Title fights can be hard to put together, believe it

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Speaker 4: That's the fight you got to make, you know.

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Speaker 2: an awesome way to go out. This is the kind

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Speaker 1: Now, health is wealth. Kenny didn't have it at the

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Speaker 2: He's faced the best in his division. He can definitely

434
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Speaker 2: ride off into the sunset and everyone's going to remember

435
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 2: him as the stud that he is. So I don't

436
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 2: think it makes a whole lot of sense not to

437
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 2: mention he does not need to come back from a

438
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: financial perspective, that makes everything way easier. How many times

439
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: that we've seen great fighters that really needed that money

440
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 2: and had to come back because of that, He does

441
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: not need to. He's doing very well outside of the

442
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: cage as well with his other ventures that he is

443
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Speaker 2: going on. So congrats the Dustin.

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Speaker 1: Pourier doesn't have to do television if he doesn't want to.

445
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: One proposition, I would out there and I will not

446
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Speaker 1: be the first to do so. A trilogy fight with

447
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: Max Holloway for the BMF title. Now, perhaps having that

448
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: belt on the mantle would be something that would appetize

449
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: Dustin Poorier after some time away. This is a man

450
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Speaker 1: who just fought in was Antony and the preparation on

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Speaker 1: the front end in March, and then thought Islami Kashev

452
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Speaker 1: on the front end of June. So Holloway Poorier, I

453
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: think makes some sense, but he already has two wins

454
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Speaker 1: over the guy. He is not seemingly of an appetitive nature.

455
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Speaker 1: For a fourth fight against Connor McGregor. I'm sort of

456
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Speaker 1: stalling here as I think about names that may be

457
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: welterweight that would appeal to him. A Colby Covington fight

458
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: sounds like a whole lot of noise, although ken Flow

459
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Speaker 1: seems to agent that you make it some really good suggestions.

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Speaker 4: Actually, you know, I kind of like it.

461
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, again, for Dustin going out against who many

462
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Speaker 2: believe is the best paper pound fighter fighter on the planet,

463
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Speaker 2: I can barely talk in Islamahasha.

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Speaker 4: I think this is the way to do it. There's

465
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Speaker 4: always going to be some fight that.

466
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Speaker 2: Is enticing, right, and then when you're at the status

467
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 2: to someone like a Dustin Poorie, the money is going

468
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Speaker 2: to be there as well.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think he needs it. I also think

470
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Speaker 4: that he's tired, dude.

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Speaker 2: He's tired of these long training camps. He's tired of

472
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Speaker 2: being away from his beautiful daughter and family. I think

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Speaker 2: that he's given He's given it all, man. He's been

474
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Speaker 2: fighting since he was a teenager. Oh yeah, you know,

475
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Speaker 2: I think there comes a time where you got to

476
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Speaker 2: go this was my best I'm gonna go out there.

477
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Speaker 2: I'm cool with this, I'm cool with this legacy, and

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Speaker 2: he certainly can be all right. Well, congrats to all

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Speaker 2: athletes and UFC three to zero two. We're just scratching

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Speaker 2: the surface as far as this recap is concerned. But

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Speaker 2: Islami Kashev just an incredible, incredible champion and it's going

482
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Speaker 2: to be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: The direction in which they go with him. Congrats to

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Speaker 1: Dustin Pourier beyond. I think a lot of people expectations

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Speaker 1: in defeat. So that was your fight of the night.

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Speaker 1: And Isla Maikash have also got a performance bonus. I

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Speaker 1: or break. We also have Ray Longo scheduled to join

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Speaker 1: as we were trying to reschedule this program for a

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Speaker 1: Scoch earlier today, Ray was a hard man to get

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Speaker 1: to have your regular Ray Longo minute. Also coming up Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: we'll have another episode for you as we look into

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Speaker 1: Jared Cannoneer and nasordin Ima Bob Louisville, Kentucky, not Louisville, Louisville,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Next Saturday, June eighth, That is live on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: talking on Saturday night. I mean, I'll do nothing but

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: We weren't necessarily sponsored heavy at UFC three zero two,

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Speaker 1: but as I look at this fight card and you know,

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Speaker 1: fouls can extend fights. There was a lot of conversation

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Speaker 1: about referees and judges and not necessarily knowing how to

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Speaker 1: handle certain situations. But the night began with five straight

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538
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,880
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Speaker 1: two fights of the night were long affairs as well.

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Speaker 1: So it was a long night of talking, but a

541
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Speaker 1: memorable night. Nonetheless, let us get to the co main event,

542
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: and seemingly in no other sport are you required to

543
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: both entertain and win, right, even in a one nothing

544
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 1: baseball game, pitcher gets credit. So Sean Strickland over Palo Costa.

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Speaker 1: Say what you will about the way we're nature of

546
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: the scorecards. Fifty to forty five for Strickland, forty nine

547
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Speaker 1: forty six for Sean, and then somebody else had it

548
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Speaker 1: forty six to forty nine for Palo Costa, which I think, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was David Terrelli and if

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00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: in fact he's gone on the record, but I think

551
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: Kenny he might have just honestly messed up the red

552
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: and blue corners in a couple of fights this night.

553
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: Perhaps not, but Sean Strickland, in my mind, I wouldn't

554
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: go so far as to suggest he pitched a near shutout,

555
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: but I do think he won at least four, if

556
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Speaker 1: not five rounds. And you know, at the end of

557
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: the fight we have people sort of apologizing for the fight.

558
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot to sort of dive into here.

559
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: But Sean Strickland is the number one contender. He maintained

560
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: that position, and as I said to him in the

561
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: fighter meeting, if you win in the fight, especially like this,

562
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: this guy should sit out for eighteen months if need be.

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00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: He is title shot worthy. There's nothing else for Sean

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Speaker 1: right now, what do you make of the comin event.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't agree more. I have no problem with the

566
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Speaker 2: fifty forty five win for Strickland. I have no problem

567
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Speaker 2: with the forty nine forty six. I think that's fine

568
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: as long as it scored for Strickland. If you have

569
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Speaker 2: that scored for the other guy, Paulo Costa, I think, Yeah,

570
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you're looking at. So for me,

571
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Speaker 2: I think this was kind of the way that Strickland

572
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: had to fight him. You know, when you're facing a

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Speaker 2: guy with the kind of physical characteristics and abilities of

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Speaker 2: someone like Paulo Costa, you have to understand you're probably

575
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Speaker 2: not going to be the stronger guy necessarily. You may

576
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Speaker 2: not be the bigger guy, yeah, and you're probably not

577
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: going to be more powerful guy. So the way you

578
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: lose that fight is by making it about those physical characteristics.

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00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 2: It's about going in there and trading in the pocket

580
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: with with someone like Paula Costa. That's how Costa was

581
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: going to win this fight, and Strickland did not allow

582
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Speaker 2: for that to happen. I thought it was a brilliant performance.

583
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: I thought it was brilliant tactics. On the part of

584
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: Strickland and his team. That's what he needed to do.

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Speaker 2: The way that he was stealing the rounds against Paulo

586
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Speaker 2: Costa was very intelligent. He was walking Costed down the

587
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Speaker 2: way I had predicted. He was backing cost up. And

588
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: if you're backing cost up, you're taking away so much

589
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: of his offense. And the way that Strickland does that

590
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: is behind that very awkward shell and behind that awkward

591
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: rhythm that he has. And for Costa, he could not

592
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Speaker 2: figure it out. After maybe the first couple minutes of

593
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: round one, he landed some good leg kicks in round one,

594
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: looked like he was well on his way. Strickland started

595
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: limping a little bit and dealing with something, but the

596
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: toughness of Strickland pulled through, and the lack of focus,

597
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: in my opinion of Costa came through as well, just

598
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: kind of would would lose focus, would lose kind of

599
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: tuning in a little bit and allow Strickland back into

600
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Speaker 2: the round and allow him to land some shots and

601
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: stumble him and almost drop him. So Strickland again one

602
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: of the most consistent performers performers in the UFC as

603
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Speaker 2: of late, and that's why I was so high on him.

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00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: Just a great performance from Strickland. Not from a performer standpoint,

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Speaker 2: as far as oh Man, that was so exciting, just

606
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Speaker 2: from a tactic standpoint, From a technical standpoint, Strickland I

607
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Speaker 2: thought fought a pretty perfect fight against Costa.

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Speaker 1: There's a quote out there from Palo Costa and Code

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Speaker 1: Blue Cody Marrow. Yeah, here it is. This is what

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Speaker 1: Palo Costa posted on Instagram here two four and again,

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Speaker 1: by the way, this is the attitude that a lot

612
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Speaker 1: of us were hoping he would bring into this competition.

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Speaker 1: And yes, Palo Costa had his moments, did against Marvin

614
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: Vtori as well, right, but just not enough of them

615
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Speaker 1: in domination and when the corner tells you that you

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Speaker 1: have the lead. I know there were deferring opinions on

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Speaker 1: the broadcast as to whether or not that was a

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Speaker 1: good thing. But no, no, no, no, no, we're not

619
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Speaker 1: banking rounds here against Sean Strickland and sitting on any

620
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Speaker 1: sort of lead. Here's the quote after the fact from

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Speaker 1: Palo Costa, and I'll put a here two four in

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Speaker 1: front of it. I won't give a fuck fuck points

623
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Speaker 1: are conserving energy or fuck anything about that. I will

624
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Speaker 1: come to take heads off.

625
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Speaker 4: And this is who I am.

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Speaker 1: This is the kind of fighter I am, and the

627
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Speaker 1: fighter who people expect that I perform.

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Speaker 4: So I will do that.

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Speaker 1: Fuck points, I've had enough of this. Even the first

630
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Speaker 1: round that I was one hundred percent sure that I won,

631
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: some people thought I lost.

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00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: Fuck them.

633
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Speaker 1: I will come to take heads off. That's it, That's

634
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Speaker 1: who I am. So Joe Rogan has talked about this

635
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: on broadcast that maybe the Israelia Sonia fight took away

636
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: some of his confidence and we haven't seen that forward

637
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: moving killer. We've had big wins, the lu grockhold win,

638
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: we've had big moments, the wheel kick against Robert Whitaker,

639
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: but not necessarily the performance in totality. And he's thirty

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Speaker 1: three years of age, right, What do you make of

641
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: that from Costa after the fact, when a lot of

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00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: people felt like he had twenty five minutes in a

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Speaker 1: canvas to do this just you know, forty eight hours ago.

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Speaker 2: My translation of that quote is I just need to

645
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Speaker 2: go hard, bro. And I don't think that's the that's

646
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: the perfect solution here, that this is a very basic

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00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: kind of idea and that's all well and good, and

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00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: you could say that perhaps that would help. For me,

649
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Speaker 2: what I see is a technical I guess barrier and

650
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: his ability to know how to move forward without getting

651
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: hit first. It's either he's running into leg kicks against

652
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: Atasania or running into jabs against other guys, feeling hesitant

653
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: and then unsure of what to do. He needs a

654
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: guy that is going to back up and let him

655
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: kind of dictate what happens.

656
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: He needs a guy who's.

657
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: Gonna kind of be a little bit slower on volume

658
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: than him, and that's where he can kind of look good.

659
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: Costa likes feeling comfortable, He likes kind of being the

660
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: bully who would it in this situation. But for me,

661
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 2: he needs a better understanding of the striking game of

662
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: how to move forward without getting hit. Angles, faints, movement, footwork,

663
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: all these things need to be dialed in a little

664
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Speaker 2: bit more to open up his offense. Yeah, he could

665
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: have gone a little harder, but he's gonna run into

666
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: strikes too, and he was getting dropped right, So I

667
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: think he's got to work some things out as far

668
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 2: as the striking goes.

669
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be real careful against Sean Strickland and

670
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: let us sort of be clear, I'm not the expert

671
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: in this room. Strickland is really really good, and I

672
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: think lost in some of the persona is just how

673
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: good he is and just how much he has refined

674
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Speaker 1: this very hard to beat style. There's no reason in

675
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: my mind, Kenny, for him to fight the winner of

676
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: Hamzat Chimayev and Robert Whittaker. And it would seem to

677
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: me that Hamza Chimaya beats Robert Whittaker, he would be

678
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: another guy that would be idling and waiting for a

679
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: championship opportunity. Whittaker would then have beaten Polo Costa and

680
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: Hamzat Chimayev in succession. He'd be title shot worthy. It

681
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be Drinkis Duplessi and Israel

682
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: Ata Sonya. But Sean Strickland has been the company man

683
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: at least thrice over in my mind. Right, let's talk

684
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: about him putting the number four ranking on the line

685
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: against Alex Padta right his UFC pay per view debut,

686
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, then stepping into a main event

687
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: against NOAs Sordini Mabab, then stepping into a main event

688
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: against the Busmago Medov and then stepping in against Israel

689
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Ata Sonya and making a relatively quick turn. So I

690
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: don't know what Sean Strickland's net worth is, you know,

691
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Bank of America or Chase,

692
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: but i'd imagine it's a pretty good checking account balance.

693
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: Guy needs to wait for a title fight. And I

694
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: said the same thing to Bala Muhammad that it might

695
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: be eighteen twenty four months. And I love seeing Sean

696
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: Strickland crack of Mike Kenny and you know, say, I've

697
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: been the company man, I'm gonna wait now. And I

698
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: think he absolutely should.

699
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: I think that's exactly what he should do. John, I agree,

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Speaker 4: will he do it?

701
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: Though?

702
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 4: I don't know?

703
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: You know, similar to Volkanowski when when he kind of

704
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: was just kind of training casually got the call from

705
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: the UFC on this short notice fight against mahashev decided

706
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: to take it. You know, I know that Strickland kind

707
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: of deals with some of some similar things, you know,

708
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: outside of the cage, where perhaps he just wants to

709
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 2: go out there and fight and get approve himself and

710
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 2: get right back in there. He's making great money, but

711
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: this is the time where he needs to kind.

712
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: Of chill weight hone in on his game.

713
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: Yes, get right back into training, but use this as

714
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: valuable time to get better, because it might be another

715
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: six months or more, probably more before he does get

716
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: that title shot because there's a lot of things that

717
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: need to happen here. So yeah, I mean, he put

718
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: himself in a great position. This was a huge fight

719
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 2: for him to get right back into that title picture.

720
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: But yes, he needs to take time off.

721
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: So the fight game is crazy, and I would on

722
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: the front end of what I'm about to say, pray

723
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: that Connor McGregor and Michael Chandler holds together for UFC

724
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: three to zero three on June twenty nine. But as

725
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: we sit here on June third, unless the story has advanced,

726
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: the press are supposed to be going on right now

727
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: and it's not so not necessarily a great sign. I

728
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: do think the fight is still together, But the fight

729
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: game is crazy. Yeah, and things happen right Stranger things

730
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: have happened then seeing Sean Strickland and Drinks du plus

731
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: Ce have a rematch for the undisputed UFC Mitaway Championship

732
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: June twenty ninth. Here in a few weeks, Shawn just

733
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: fought a hard twenty five minute fight. I'm not suggesting

734
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: that he go do that, right, but and the weight cut, no,

735
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: obviously not right. I mean, you know when you go

736
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: to Perth as a backup. I mean there's just a

737
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: lot of different situations.

738
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing with these two big middleweight fights.

739
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: One of those guys trump out. You don't think the

740
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: UFC's gonna call shot, hey man, and maybe there's another

741
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: seven figures in store for you. And now he has

742
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: to take the fight in some way. So yeah, man,

743
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: a lot of things can change. But assuming things are

744
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: playing out the way it should, Strickland should take that

745
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: time off.

746
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 4: This was a big win.

747
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure he trained really hard for it. These five

748
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: round camps, dude are really tough. So hopefully he gives

749
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: himself a little bit of a break physically, mentally, spiritual.

750
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: And I love Paalo Costa as a human being. I

751
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: know he and Sean are close. I think there might

752
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: be some plans for those who to actually train together

753
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: on the back end of this co main event. But

754
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: I do hope that Costa can sort of unleash some

755
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: of that aggression in a technical, proficient way, because there's

756
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: a lot of desire, especially in that corner and his brother.

757
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: And I know sometimes he doesn't alway show up on

758
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: time for practice, but he really is a hard working individual.

759
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: And I would stop short of suggesting that he has

760
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: underachieved having realized a world title fight. But I remember,

761
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, being on the equator in Fort Alaza in

762
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen and watching him stotch Gareth McClellan and thinking,

763
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, this dude really is the goods And you know,

764
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: even though he has been at times, you know, it's

765
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: a couple of straight losses here to begin twenty twenty

766
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: four for Plo Costa. All right, speaking of a couple

767
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: straight losses, that was Kevin Holland's reality going into this

768
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: middleweight return against me call Olek Shaijook. He gets it

769
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: done by technical submission? Can flow armbar comes at one

770
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: thirty four of round one? A lot too unpacked here?

771
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: Can flow so unpacked the Toomey suitcase for us? What

772
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: do you make of the submission win for Kevin Holland?

773
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Man, what a fight? I mean again, we know that

774
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: Olek say Chuck is very dangerous. He's got nasty hands,

775
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: he's very aggressive. He said he was going to go

776
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: out there and try to force Holland to try to

777
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: take him down. Well, he ended up taking Holland down

778
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: with his fist, and Holland had to show his jiu

779
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: jitsu privas out there utilize those long legs to wrap

780
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 2: up a triangle. Was able to get his wits back

781
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: and ultimately finished with an arm lock that was absolutely nasty.

782
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: And now this was a train wreck that we just

783
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 2: saw coming. I mean, that's about as good of a

784
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: control as you're going to get when it comes to

785
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: isolating an arm away from the torso. And I'm watching

786
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: this and I'm like, where exactly does Alexeisha think he's

787
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: going to go? Like where is he going to go?

788
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: There's one way that this gonna that this is going

789
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: to end, and it's gonna end in an arm break.

790
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: And maybe he gets up out after the arm break,

791
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: but what is he gonna do after that? And I

792
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: love the toughness. I love the determination, but at a

793
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: certain point, dude, like you need your arms to continue

794
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: training and to continue being successful in the sport.

795
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

796
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: I love the toughness, but man, he was not gonna

797
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: get out of that. And Kevin Holland gave him his

798
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: opportunities too. It's like Kevin's are you sure? Are you

799
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: sure you want to do this? Dude?

800
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: Are you like?

801
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of like superior grappling control is that

802
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: you have control of whether you want to hurt someone

803
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: or not. And Holland, you know, had to go the

804
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: other route and actually hurt Mikhail Alek Sayschak so unfortunate.

805
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: There, but yeah, just odd, and then after he's kind of.

806
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: Complaining about yeah, so I don't know mine, So I

807
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: feel badly for the police fighter here a little bit.

808
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Mika Oli change the great, biggest opportunity of his UFC career,

809
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: took it on relatively short notice because it was that

810
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: big an opportunity against a top I don't know, fifteen

811
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: or twenty UFC superstar in Kevin Holland. But yes, Kenny,

812
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: the questions coming if there was a dislocation here at

813
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: the very least, why is he protesting because adrenaline s

814
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: flying around and there's no pain, Like, why the adamant protest?

815
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, dude, I really don't know.

816
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: It was very confusing clearly that there was an arm injury,

817
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 2: whether it was a break or dislocation, most likely dislocation,

818
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, it was only going to end that

819
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: way with that kind of control, It was only going

820
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: to end that way. Great job by Kevin Holland of

821
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 2: keeping his composure locking up that submission, win after getting

822
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: hurt and fighting at one hundred and eighty five pounds

823
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: when he's been fighting at one hundred and seventy. So

824
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: also win by Kevin Holland, one of the more likable

825
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: guys in the sport, as you mentioned on, one of

826
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: the stars in the sport as well, So great way

827
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: for him to kind of get back into the wind.

828
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: Calling all right, about thirty minutes left in our live

829
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: UFC three to zero two recap. And as many of

830
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, when we launched this very program in April

831
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: of twenty fifteen, Ray Longo was a part of it.

832
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: Little did we know he'd become the star of the show.

833
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: But let us get to the Ray Longo minute. Just

834
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: to keep the minute men happy, right, we booked Laura

835
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 1: Sanko and Dan Hardy to keep our overall viewership happy

836
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: based upon those requests, and they always want Ray Longo.

837
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: To what extent did we fuck with your Monday here

838
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: switching up the showtime three times.

839
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 5: Ray brutal, brutal, But I'm you know, listen, when you're

840
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 5: a company may and it doesn't matter.

841
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 3: But it's easy.

842
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 5: Today I've almost ran about four people over trying to

843
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 5: get to the gym.

844
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: All right, So here, thank you for your commitment to

845
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: this show, and we really do appreciate that. But it's

846
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: up to you to sort of prioritize things in your life, right,

847
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: And I say that with all due respect. We're not

848
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: going to pay you less per quarter if you can't

849
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: come today, right. So, but we were delaying the show

850
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: for that press conference, and then it's like, how long

851
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: are we just going to sit around and not recap

852
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: UFC three to zero two?

853
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 3: Right?

854
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: I love Connor, but we can't let him control everything here, right,

855
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: So you know we had to move up the show.

856
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: So we appreciate you, but you didn't have to rush.

857
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: Like if you can't make the show, you know we're

858
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: doing another episode on Wednesday. I mean, you want to

859
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: come back Wednesday too, you know I'll come back Wednesday.

860
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I tell you Lit's that's that's who I am.

861
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 5: I try to make it. I just try to make

862
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 5: it work. I feel like, like, listen, it's fun, but

863
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 5: I feel like it is a job. I know your

864
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 5: hearts and Kenny's hard is totally into it.

865
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 1: So what more than man, what that means a lot? No,

866
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: it really does. But I just want you to know

867
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: you can always as the star of the show. You know,

868
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: pull that car ray?

869
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: Did you have did you have to leave the Italian

870
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: American Club over there on Long Island?

871
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: What happened?

872
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: Not? Not? Not today?

873
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 4: Okay?

874
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so talk us through your Saturday night.

875
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: A lot of decisions before we arrived at Islamak you

876
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: have a Dustin Poier huh.

877
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, but uh, man, I think that fight kind

878
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: of saved the night for me.

879
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

880
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 3: Mayor Pourier is just uh what a great performance. And

881
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: I had that fight really.

882
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 5: Close going into the fifth too, I thought, uh, I

883
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: did think Islam looked a little off that night, but

884
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 5: it could have been because you know what what Dustin

885
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 5: was doing too. But Kenny, I felt like even when

886
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: he got to the clinch, he looked like he wanted

887
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 5: that ty clinch but then didn't really do anything. Looked

888
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 5: like he was almost wanted to take a break there

889
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: and I think he got lit up a little bit

890
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 5: in that in that clinch position, you know, so something

891
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 5: was it looked like it was a little off to me.

892
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if those staff infection room is something right.

893
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 4: Look, yeah, he did have a staff infection.

894
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: So that's what we were talking about a little bit,

895
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: is that it seemed like that may have slowed him

896
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: down a little bit. Whether it's the antibiotics as a result,

897
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 2: or your body just fighting that damn thing, or taking

898
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: those that week off or so whatever it is you

899
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: have to take off could have could have played an effect.

900
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: But of course, Dustin Poier it was was really good

901
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: in those situations and made it definitely difficult for Islam

902
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: and a lot of those situations.

903
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: And I tell you a little takeaway too Fadusta too.

904
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 5: He did hit the switch finally, right. He tried that

905
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: about twenty tents in a row with Kab He got nowhere.

906
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 5: So he tightened something up. And you know, Matt was

907
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 5: always big on that if you got one thing off

908
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 5: that you were working on, it's just you know, it

909
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 5: does make for a little bit more rewarding of a situation.

910
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: So I think he did a couple of things in

911
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: that fight. You know, I did think he was getting

912
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 5: I don't want to get that. I wasn't looking at

913
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: it like that, but he was doing great in his

914
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 5: stand up obviously. Yeah, he did great, you know, defending

915
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 5: the first couple of rounds, and he made for a

916
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 5: really really freak fight. Whatever the reasons were or whatever,

917
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 5: but they were just a couple of things I saw

918
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 5: in Islam I thought were a little off.

919
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's still you know, he still grinded.

920
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 5: It out and got the job done, which is yeah,

921
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 5: that's the end of the story, you know what I mean,

922
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 5: even if he wasn't you know, whatever he was feeling.

923
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: Now, we don't score defense. I know, Kenny and I

924
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: felt pretty convicted that Islamikashev was winning the fight. But

925
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: one judge did have it too too going into the

926
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: fifth and had Islami Kashev not found that submission. Perhaps

927
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: this ends up being a split decision, but ray, how

928
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: about his ability and whatever weathered condition right lean all

929
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: over the place to find that you know, tertiary level

930
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: takedown in his arsenal and find a submission at that

931
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: stage of the fight.

932
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, listen, these guys are good man. That guy

933
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: is that Listen. He's at the top of the food

934
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 5: chain for a reason, and you kind of expect no

935
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: less out of them. But yeah, when the whatever he did,

936
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 5: the ankle pick or swinging the leg around, that was sick.

937
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: Now took the air out of the balloon right there.

938
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean, at that very yet, it was like, I've

939
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: never seen anyone hit that in the UF. You'll see

940
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: it in wrestling with like high level guys, but seeing

941
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: that kind of takedown was was pretty cool. And Dustin

942
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: was fighting his ass off and I think after that

943
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: he was like, are you kidding me?

944
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they kind of mentally

945
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: maybe broke him. But you kind of see that in

946
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 5: tie boxing. Comes on when they grabbed the leg, they'll

947
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 5: swing that thing all over the place. Yeah, get you

948
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying to get you a turn, because

949
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 5: I know al Jo does that all lot not in

950
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 5: that position.

951
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and MNA, you don't see it too often I

952
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 4: have anywhere.

953
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 5: Same concept though, But that was absolutely beautiful. And again,

954
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 5: you know, Cream always rises to the top these that

955
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 5: guys can for a reason.

956
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: Pep.

957
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 5: That's that's what it comes down to. Dustin, as good

958
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 5: as he is, seems to never get that that that

959
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 5: big fight.

960
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

961
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: It kind of sucks because he's the guy's a legend,

962
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 5: what he's accomplished, who he's fored I think is unmatched,

963
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

964
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: So it would have been nice to see him get

965
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: that gold ring at the end, but it is what

966
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: it is.

967
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, cream rises to the top, just like Longo's hair

968
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: product today. Huh looks like it's rising to the top.

969
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: It looks okay, you know, okay, all right? Shout out

970
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: to Justin Flores on Instagram. How about this can flow

971
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: at jflowed Judo that takedown right the swoosh or the

972
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: golf swing finish? Love this variation that Islama Kashev was

973
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: able to pull off on a barefoot and sweaty Dustin

974
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Poorier in yesterday's title fight. Great option when finishing a

975
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: single leg with two handed grip around the foot. We're

976
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: getting fucking technical today.

977
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: Huh that right?

978
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: What time do you wake up today today?

979
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 3: Probably eleven?

980
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: Okay. I pushed out a tweet at eight am, like

981
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go now, Raymond, what are you doing? Anyway?

982
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: I would have went at eleven thirty though.

983
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, so Sean Strickland. I know a

984
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: lot of people, relative to their expectations, felt short changed

985
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: by this comine event between Sean Strickland and Polo Costs.

986
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: I get very frustrated when there's a dominant performance and

987
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: it's not good enough for people. But even Eric Nixon,

988
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: our good friend, was over sort of, you know, apologizing

989
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: a little bit to Hunter and Dana for the nature

990
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: of that fight right in front of my face. What'd

991
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: you make of Sean Strickland's performance in the co main event?

992
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: And I guess in a broader sense like this is

993
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: the only sport man where you need fucking style points

994
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: to please everybody. It's not fair.

995
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: Well, listen, the MMA critics are brutal. I think we

996
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: know that.

997
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 5: But look, Strickland does what he always does. He did

998
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 5: he was the consistent, He was the constant in that fight.

999
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1000
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 5: It was Paolo Costa who didn't come forward and decided

1001
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: to take a different approach.

1002
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 3: But Strickland does what he always does. He does it

1003
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: really good.

1004
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,919
Speaker 5: He's comfortable at what he does and if you can't

1005
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 5: make him uncomfortable, it's just going to be a long night.

1006
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 5: But it wasn't like he was going backwards. He was

1007
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 5: trying to make the fight. So I think it was

1008
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: on Paolo Costa to try to negate some of that

1009
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 5: stuff and make.

1010
00:47:59,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: It a fight.

1011
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 5: So I think Strickland, like again, I think he he

1012
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 5: didn't do anything we haven't seen him do before. And

1013
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 5: like I think I said it last week, unless he's

1014
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 5: so used to this type of fight, you're not going

1015
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 5: to beat him at it. You're just not right, you know,

1016
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 5: if you don't mix in some wrestling or I don't know,

1017
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 5: he's he's he's good at what he does. He fights,

1018
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 5: Strickland knows have a fight within Strickland. He's got it

1019
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 5: down to a science, and until something changes, he's going

1020
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 5: to keep winning those fights.

1021
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: Kenny.

1022
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes we have these five round co main events, and

1023
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: certainly I didn't have to tell you that perhaps a

1024
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: five rounder would favor Sean Strickland more than Paolo Costa

1025
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: in this particular matchup right, But I would imagine Sean

1026
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 1: asked for that and Paolo maybe could have been Adham

1027
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: at about fifteen I mean, do you think this fight

1028
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: would have been different, Kenny, of it's fifteen minutes, like

1029
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: Cody right in the chat here I feel like they

1030
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: short changed us by making it twenty five. I always

1031
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: want the extra ten minutes.

1032
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 4: Based on what we saw.

1033
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think so, because you know, Okay,

1034
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 2: let's say Costa could have been like, hey, I'm gonna

1035
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: save you know, my energy for the five rounder, whereas

1036
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: in the fifteen minute fight he could have gone more

1037
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: balls in the wall.

1038
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1039
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that Strickland would have given him

1040
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: a problem either way. I think Strickland would have fought

1041
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: differently as well, and probably would have upped his pace

1042
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 2: and volume as well.

1043
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: So I think Strickland probably would have won either way.

1044
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: But when you're a fighter, or you're gonna, you know,

1045
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: engage in any kind of combative situation, you want all

1046
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: the odds in your favor or as many of them

1047
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 2: in your favor. And I think this was Strickland and

1048
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: his team going, well, if we have a choice, or

1049
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: if we can, let's try to push for this five

1050
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 2: rounder because we know we're gonna come out looking a

1051
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: little bit better rounds four and five than Costam most likely.

1052
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I kind of agree with Kenny on

1053
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 5: one thing. It's like, if it was a three round fight. Look,

1054
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 5: three round fight. I mean, the first two rounds were

1055
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 5: I'm not saying sketchy, but I could see even in

1056
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 5: his corner could have been doing a mind thing on him.

1057
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: But they thought he was up to one.

1058
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 5: Uh but well, Kenny says is I'm sure Strickland would

1059
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 5: have adjusted to the three rounds also and probably picked

1060
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: it up because you know, he knows how to pace

1061
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 5: himself like that. So who the hell knows, But I

1062
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,280
Speaker 5: do think three rounds would have definitely favored Paolo Costa

1063
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 5: more than it would have favored Strickland, because I think

1064
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 5: Strickland's one of those guys. I mean, you could see

1065
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: he's got another two or three rounds in him. He

1066
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 5: could have won eight rounds, seven rounds, sixth rounds, you

1067
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So Costa was the guy that

1068
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 5: was more struggling at the end than he was so

1069
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 5: brilliant move for the five rounds. You know, it's a

1070
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 5: hard crowd to please, but I still, if you're really

1071
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 5: into the technical side, what Strickland does is pretty cool.

1072
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 3: You know, he marches it down, he keeps it pretty basic.

1073
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 5: His defense, although it doesn't look orthodox, He's hard to hit,

1074
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 5: you know, He's just he's got what he does down

1075
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 5: really good. And the only way he does that is

1076
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 5: because he does it every fuck. Yeah, well, you know

1077
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like, that's he's the example he used

1078
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 5: when people say, just want to drill in that spot,

1079
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 5: you know, then I think you take the more of

1080
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 5: a risk, even though it could work out for you.

1081
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: But he knows exactly what's going on because that's his neighborhood.

1082
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: Man.

1083
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 3: He'll give a fuck.

1084
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, his vision's outstanding. All right, A

1085
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: few more minutes here with the great Ray Longo as

1086
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: we rifle through this pay per view at UFC three

1087
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: to zero two. I have a great relationship with Alex

1088
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: Morono and maybe somewhat regrettable that I turned to Joe

1089
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: Rogan at the end of the fight and I sort

1090
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: of said that that's kind of what I feel like

1091
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: I would look like after sixty seconds in a fight. Now.

1092
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: I exercise six days a week, but if I were

1093
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 1: to go into an MMA fight right now, I would

1094
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: gas in like two minutes. Right The only the only

1095
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: thing I've done is a nine minute tough man fight,

1096
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: three three minute rounds with lacrosse gloves and helmets and

1097
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: even in pretty good shape in college, you know, chasing girls.

1098
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: I have never been more gassed in my life. Round

1099
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: three was us with both of our hands on our knees.

1100
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: So all respect to Alex Morono, that's got to be

1101
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: fucking humiliating to have that type of cadio abandonment live

1102
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: on paper view Raymond.

1103
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: No, Well, first off is you did three three threes?

1104
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: Isn't a jokey that's never done anything?

1105
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 4: That's awful? Awful?

1106
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: And to train, I was lifting weights and running, I

1107
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 1: wasn't sparring, right.

1108
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 5: You were doing the right type of thing. Yeah, I

1109
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 5: get that, but uh, three threes. I could see three twos.

1110
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 5: Three threes is not a joke at that level.

1111
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: But I would imagine the next year they scaled it

1112
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: back to three twos.

1113
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 5: I would hope with a couple of months of training,

1114
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 5: you would have looked better than Morona looked that night.

1115
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I have faith in you, Kenny, this is

1116
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: coming to you as well. I mean, what were your

1117
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: thoughts on Morono? I had Cody try to chase some

1118
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: comments from him after the fact. Nico Price wins by

1119
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: unanimous decision, but gosh, man, uh that's a tough visual

1120
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: for Morono and I know at times maybe he's gassed

1121
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: a little bit, but this is going to be one

1122
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: that is a little tough to watch back.

1123
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, you know, it could have been

1124
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: a conditioning issue, could very well have been a conditioning issue.

1125
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 4: I think a lot of it also has to do

1126
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: with efficiency.

1127
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: I think that's a big part of it of how

1128
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: you manage that over the course of your career and

1129
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: you know, how much are you putting into your punches,

1130
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: is that necessary?

1131
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: Do you have to do that?

1132
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: What's being done with structure, what's being done with your footwork,

1133
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: you know all that stuff, And I think he's going

1134
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: to learn from that. But also facing a guy like

1135
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: Nico Price who just makes it a barn burner every

1136
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: single time. It's just hectic when you're in there against

1137
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: an Eco Price, and if you're not prepared for that

1138
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 2: kind of a battle, it could get even the most

1139
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: savvy of veterans.

1140
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 4: And I think that played a part as well.

1141
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 3: I agree.

1142
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 5: I agree with Kenny with that though, John, But I

1143
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 5: think they did say I think you guys said on

1144
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 5: the Brookissy just what last month, and that we did,

1145
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 5: you know, doing the week cut too close together.

1146
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: That's not that's definitely not going to benefit yet.

1147
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1148
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 5: And what Kenny says Nico Price, I mean yeah, yeah,

1149
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 5: no idea. You have no idea what those.

1150
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 3: Punches are coming from. You know what I mean.

1151
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 5: If you want to get karate chopped right in the

1152
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 5: middle of a combination, you got the right guy.

1153
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: Let me tell you that guy.

1154
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 5: There was there was stuff happening in there, and I

1155
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 5: was going, Hell, it's going on. This is great, but

1156
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: uh yeah not a not a good look for Marona.

1157
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 5: Hopefully he bounces back from this.

1158
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: A nice kid.

1159
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, big win for Nico. Man, that's good. He's a

1160
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 4: good yeah. Yeah, he's a good dude.

1161
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: And he was the underdog right in that fight.

1162
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, he was the underdog, real quick, ray over

1163
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: under right now five and a half kids for Nico Price.

1164
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 3: Welly bye bye Cheata Because I heard the I think

1165
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: he's old. I think he's got eight kids.

1166
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: You said he has six and a seventh on the way.

1167
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, God, blessing cash, God blessed wonder.

1168
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 5: Yes, I guess, by my stom, I think he had

1169
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 5: his wife for a couple of kids. He had like three,

1170
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 5: so he's booking, he's on it, he's not stopping.

1171
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know. That's a

1172
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: lot appropriation.

1173
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 5: You have to be a parent to really appreciate somebody

1174
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 5: telling you they have seven kids, because somebody in that

1175
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 5: house has.

1176
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 3: A lot of patience.

1177
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, Nico Price is going to be fighting until

1178
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: like twenty forty.

1179
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 4: Five, right, right, Well.

1180
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 3: We judge, right, but he signed the ninety four year deal.

1181
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: Well, hey, you know, let's not pretend his chin hasn't

1182
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: been tested and you know failed him most recently against

1183
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: Robbie Lawler. I know he took some time off in

1184
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: advance of this one, right, but probably doubled his paycheck,

1185
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: which is pretty good given his longevity. Right, probably doubled

1186
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: his paycheck by beating Alex Morono. So yeah, kem flo

1187
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: to your point, you got to feel good for Nico Price.

1188
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's full anxiety as a parent

1189
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: here and that somebody has uh seven children that you.

1190
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: Got to Yeah, listening to that is bro It's actually brutal. Yeah,

1191
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm saying three what do you have? Three kids?

1192
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 5: Right?

1193
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, and my dog counts as a

1194
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: dependent as well. All right, so I want to rifle

1195
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: through some of these other performances. And Raymond, how about

1196
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: the Nardoo Debra trained Randy Rude Boy Brown becoming a

1197
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: UFC welterweight contender. I know he's not ranked right now

1198
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: in the top ten. I don't even know if he's

1199
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: top fifteen, but you know he got tested again, a

1200
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: real tried and true warrior. And Elaziozeleski dos Santos and

1201
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just love Randy Brown the human

1202
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: being and feel really good for Randy kicking off the

1203
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: pay per view with another big win, his seventh in

1204
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: his last eight. Starts your thoughts on that, Raymond.

1205
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's uh, he's learned. He always learned. He always

1206
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 5: knew how to use his range. But she's shoped man

1207
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 5: from the outside, very shop. I'd like to see a

1208
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: little more going forward sometimes, you know what I mean.

1209
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 5: I think he lets these guys kind of come back

1210
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 5: for a round, and I don't think he has to.

1211
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 3: But all in all, I mean i've seen him in

1212
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 3: the gym. The guy's huge, YEA for that way, he's huge,

1213
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 3: and he's hard to get, you know, because when you've

1214
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: got that height, those knees up the middle. Always Fresia

1215
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 3: is boxing is on point. He looks like he's having

1216
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: I think that's my point. I think sometimes it looks

1217
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: like he's having too much fun. I'd love to see

1218
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: him get that you know, fuck you and just keep

1219
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: coming forward. I think he'd knocked a lot of guys out.

1220
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: I agree, Kenny. What are your thoughts on Randy Brown?

1221
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: Both this past Saturday Night and in totality? He's won

1222
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: seven of eight, only lost in there to Jack Della

1223
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Mattalanta in Perth, but he's six y three styles make fights.

1224
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by Randy Brown at seventy.

1225
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 4: I I am as well.

1226
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: I think eliseos Aleski dos santos is A is a

1227
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: very dangerous guy.

1228
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 4: He's good on the ground, He's dangerous on the feet.

1229
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 2: Uh And I thought Randy, aside from some batspots and

1230
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: rounds too, looked phenomenal. I think that I agree with

1231
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 2: Ray that he's still coming into that confidence part of

1232
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: his game. It was mostly there, but there's times where

1233
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: he doesn't throw his hands when he should. He's blessed

1234
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: with all this length, with all this physical ability. He

1235
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: needs to unleash more of that and have confidence in

1236
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: that length and saying I have the accuracy. If I

1237
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: land even right down the middle, this guy can't touch me.

1238
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: And there were moments that there were flashes of brilliance

1239
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: here against Dosantos, who was a very very good striker.

1240
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: Giving up his back in round two I think was

1241
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: frustrating for him, but we saw him battle back in.

1242
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: Round three and bring the pain, and even at the.

1243
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: End of that round he took Dosantos's back, So listen,

1244
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: I think it wasn't a perfect performance, but this was

1245
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: one of those similar to Islam, where you say I

1246
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: got the win, I made some mistakes, I still got

1247
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 2: the win.

1248
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 4: I can learn from this win and be better for it.

1249
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 4: So he's accruing really.

1250
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 2: Valuable experience in the UFC, and I think for Randy

1251
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: Brown and his team, I think this is one of

1252
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: those that you can take away a lot of positives

1253
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 2: from and if you're another wealth weight in that division,

1254
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: I think you want to stay away from someone like

1255
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: Randy Brown at this stage of the game because he

1256
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: is elevating his game, he's gaining confidence, he's gaining skills,

1257
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: and he's going to be a problem for a lot

1258
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: of people now.

1259
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 4: So I think he's come out. He's come out and

1260
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 4: he's arrived. He just needs to believe it a little

1261
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: bit more.

1262
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I love the word of crewing.

1263
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 5: I think that's a great word for that because again

1264
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 5: even that he was in not bit shape, but he

1265
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 5: was in a you know, a tough position, and like

1266
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 5: when he got out, man, he finished that round.

1267
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 3: You maybe almost give a case of steeling the round back,

1268
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1269
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 5: But I think those little things, like you say, they

1270
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 5: crew and then they it really helps out as as

1271
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 5: you're growing as a fighter, to just get through some

1272
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: of those spots and know that you can, It just

1273
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 5: makes you a better fighter.

1274
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: He called out the tenth ranked Jeff Neil. I think

1275
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: that fight makes a lot of sense. We'll see if

1276
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: Jeff Neil is receptive to putting that top ten ranking

1277
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: on the line against the the unranked Randy Brown. But

1278
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: very exciting for Randy Brown to have come out the

1279
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: other side of that very big Jack Dela Mattelena fight.

1280
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: Now with three consecutive wins, find a lot of other

1281
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: directions in which we can go ray before we let

1282
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: you go any other fights that you want to speak

1283
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: on I thought the featured prelom was really interesting just

1284
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: to look at this Cesra al Mada, who has a

1285
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: kickboxing win over Alex Padta, to look at his MMA

1286
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: progression and lack thereof in certain spots against Roman Kappolov.

1287
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: I thought Kapolov thought a really smart fight at times

1288
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: to sort of get his momentum back. Jai Yilton now

1289
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: made it taken care of business. You like to see

1290
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: that Grant Dawson was going to call out Jalen Turner

1291
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: if he got the microphone. I don't think he did

1292
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: after that fight against Joe Sileki and then Jake Matthews,

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Speaker 1: you know, UFC debut at nineteen, still getting it done

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Speaker 1: here in his twentieth UFC appearance over Philip Row. So

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if there was anything preliminarily, Raymond, that

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Speaker 1: you wanted to sound off on before we let you

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Speaker 1: get back to the sweating.

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Speaker 3: For a preliminary.

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Speaker 5: No, but I did like the Jake Matthews fight, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's a good match up Philip Row against

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Speaker 5: Randy Brown.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, you know, with the height, you know they

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01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: negate the height problem.

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Speaker 5: You know, with the distance, I think that might be

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01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 5: an interesting, fun fight, you know, Randy Brown, I think,

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01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 5: like I agree with you, though I'd stay away from

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 5: Randy Brown at this point, but that could be a

1308
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 5: fun fight. By though, Jake Matthews did a great job

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Speaker 5: at getting past the length of Philip Row's a really

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01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 5: talented kid also who's got great boxing.

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Speaker 1: So if Kenny said Phil Rowe, you know, as as

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01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: the matchup for Randy Brown right now, I probably would

1313
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Speaker 1: have been more respectful than I'm about to be, right,

1314
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: But Phil Roe's coming off a loss Raymond, Right, Yeah,

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01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 1: Randy Brown's won seven of eights, right, I mean, I mean,

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01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: where is Phil Rowe in this in this division? You know,

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: they got like thirty thirty five guys between. I love

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01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: Phil Will's potential had he won this weekend, sure, but

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Speaker 1: I just don't think.

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Speaker 4: You can do it now.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I get it. But I'm saying just as

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Speaker 3: a range thing, you know, it's always good match up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that way, that was it. Nothing, No, Randy deserved, Randy

1324
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: definitely deserves to be moving up and given ranked guys

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01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: at this point. I just thought it was interesting because

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01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 3: they're both so tall, you know, might be for a

1327
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 3: fun fight.

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I guess I'll get you out of

1329
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,439
Speaker 2: here on this unless you have anything locally you want

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Speaker 2: to share.

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Speaker 1: How was the weekend?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Weekend was good? Oh yeah, we got Pumi Nakuda fight

1334
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 5: and this this weekend in Texas. Wow, hopefully you know

1335
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 5: he's going to be looking for a knockout. He wants

1336
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 5: to really get in the UFC. Make everybody happy, So

1337
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 5: shout out to pull me. He looks phenomenal and I

1338
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 5: expect as I always did big things from him.

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01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: Again, it just comes back to the crazy though, right

1340
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: this sport. You know you got to go get a knockout, right,

1341
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: can't just get it when you got to get a

1342
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: knockout if you're trying to get to the UFC. It's

1343
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: just crazy. I just have so much respect for these fighters.

1344
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and John if you even look at the first

1345
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 5: fight with Reposo and the other guy, like what you know,

1346
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 5: I hear all this shit about you know, the flyweight division,

1347
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 5: this and that.

1348
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 3: This is my baby. I don't know what am I

1349
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 3: looking at it? I mean right right right, I don't know.

1350
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 3: Get the kid a shot, like you know it's Adam whatever?

1351
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, last thing, sonar do Debra I know

1352
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: he goes way back with Matt Sarah, but just a

1353
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: really good, humble coach that has taken Randy to places

1354
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: for him to get things in training that nar maybe

1355
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: can't provide. He's a Brasilian jiu jitsu black belt himself.

1356
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I just hope for these two

1357
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: that they can really make a concerted run here because

1358
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: they've done it the right way and nar Do Debra

1359
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: has devoted so much of his professional life to this

1360
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: particular athlete, and uh, they're doing something right.

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Speaker 5: No listen, First of all, I go way back with

1362
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 5: no Do also was a really talent fighter. You know

1363
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 5: at the beginning of this thing. He's definitely a pioneer

1364
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 5: at least on the regional scene for sure. Great kid.

1365
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 5: You know, they got looks like they got a great relationship.

1366
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 5: I know Randy was going to mats a lot or

1367
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 5: not a lot, but at least once or twice a week.

1368
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 5: I think I don't know if he still iss. So yeah,

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01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 5: Matt goes way back would not do. I go way

1370
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: back would not do. And it kind of you know,

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Speaker 5: he's in the whatever that jiu jitsu branch or family is,

1372
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 5: He's he's in there. With everybody. So I think he's

1373
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 5: doing the right thing. He's a great guy. He's a

1374
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 5: martial artist first and foremost, like real Marshal. I ever

1375
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 5: seen him doing tai chi on the beach, you gotta

1376
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,479
Speaker 5: love him. Yeah, it comes from really good stock. Ralph

1377
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 5: Mitchell I think was his first teacher. But Ralph was

1378
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 5: a super talented guy, probably a little older than me,

1379
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 5: but definitely was was a legit martial artist, you know,

1380
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 5: and you know, kind of made the transition over to MMA.

1381
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 5: I think dudes got all those good traditional you know,

1382
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 5: Kenny marshall law qualities from way back when. I think

1383
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 5: he's held to him probably more than anybody. Uh So, yeah,

1384
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 5: it's good to see. It's always good to see.

1385
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: That's cool.

1386
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, thank you so much. I'm sorry for

1387
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: the switch up. No show is complete without your buddy.

1388
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll talk to you again on Wednesday when

1389
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: we go live once again. But thanks for the time.

1390
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Speaker 3: Let's do it. What happened with the press conference? Do

1391
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 3: we know.

1392
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: You're talking about the Oh no, Connor and Chandler, No,

1393
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: we don't know.

1394
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 5: Come on, give me, give me something good. He was

1395
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 5: he was drunk in a bar and hit somebody. Somebody

1396
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 5: came in and repregnated.

1397
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 3: Give me something.

1398
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 4: Come on, you're talking about Chandler obviously, right, Yeah, that Chandler.

1399
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 3: Is this what a what a deviant?

1400
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: What?

1401
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 5: Chandler's a man of God.

1402
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: He's gotta put up with.

1403
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: Hey, we'll try to get you some news later today.

1404
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 3: Awesome, guys.

1405
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: There he is Ray Long go minute every week here

1406
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: on the Anakin Flooring Podcast. Now, Ja main Serling shaved

1407
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: his beard. That's a different looking algae.

1408
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 4: Wow, Katy.

1409
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to quickly ask you about Grant Dawson over

1410
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: Joe Selecti, and these are two different ground specialists and

1411
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 1: ground fighters. Selecti's jiu jitsu. You know, it's fun for

1412
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: me to watch That first round was really fun for

1413
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: me to watch, just giving him my relationship with you.

1414
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: I was with Hanatamoi Kano last week, and I think

1415
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: the most animated he got was talking about Grant Dawson's

1416
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: control on the ground. He just said, you're not going

1417
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: to control this guy. And he trains with all of

1418
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: these monsters and even though he lost to Bobby Green,

1419
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, this guy really wants to become a world champion,

1420
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: and at least in terms of the dominating nature of

1421
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: his wrestling. Kenny, You know, I do think that Grants

1422
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: can be able to bank a lot of rounds. His

1423
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: style isn't one that gets expedited in terms of championships necessarily,

1424
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: but dude, it makes for a suffocating night at the office,

1425
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to beat a lot of

1426
01:06:58,760 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: guys in the top fifteen.

1427
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Speaker 2: That was the difference when I was looking at this fight,

1428
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: to be honest, what was the wrestling game with Dawson.

1429
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: I think that's what kind of stood out now. Selecki,

1430
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: I thought thought a really good fight, especially in round one.

1431
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: He was trying to get the butterfly guard going. He

1432
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 2: was looking for sweeps, he was looking for some nice attacks.

1433
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 2: But Dawson was just always in very good position, and

1434
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: that's because of that ground control from his wrestling background.

1435
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: Where he places his head, where he places his weight

1436
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 2: was critical to his success against se Leckie, and Selecckie

1437
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 2: just couldn't get him off of him. So yeah, I

1438
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 2: thought it was a solid performance on the ground. I

1439
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 2: would have liked to see more kind of dynamic positional changes,

1440
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 2: But more than anything else, I would say that he's

1441
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 2: got a long way to go. I think with his

1442
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: striking of just like being defensively sound and confident on defeat,

1443
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 2: I think that counter two was still there Seleccie wasn't

1444
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: able to find it like Bobby Green found it. So

1445
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 2: if he's able to show up that, you know, really

1446
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: kind of get more confident on the feet. I think

1447
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 2: he's well on his way and can be elite in

1448
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 2: that very tough division. But so like he's not an

1449
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: easy out. The fact that he's able to get a win,

1450
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: I think is always huge, right.

1451
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: A lot of storylines coming out of UFC three to

1452
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: zero two. We'll have more on Islam Maikashev's win coming

1453
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: up this Wednesday. We will also look ahead to UFC

1454
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:25,919
Speaker 1: fight and I at candoneer versus Emavov that is in Louisville, Kentucky,

1455
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: live on ESPN this Saturday night. It's a hugely busy month.

1456
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: Of course, we've got Saudi Arabia, Robert Whitaker, Kamsat she

1457
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: might have June twenty second, and then eventually all roads

1458
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: lead us to an international fight week. We got out

1459
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame June twenty seven. June twenty ninth,

1460
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: it'll be UFC three oh three McGregor versus Chandler, and

1461
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: we'll see if that press conference can go ahead and

1462
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: get rescheduled. Thank you to our guest, Ray Longo, our

1463
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: executive producer Code Blue, Cody Merrow for camp Plum John

1464
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: and we will talk to you Wednesday. Until then, thanks

1465
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: for watching, Thanks for listening. Tell you mom, you'll it.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't have bonus.

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01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna roll. He's a lot, and there's me,

1468
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 4: the soul to my breath. He's gone bread.

1469
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:21,440
Speaker 3: He's gone bread.

1470
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 5: Like dis oppressious to the mess that you can't keep

1471
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 5: your hands on the box the open.

1472
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Speaker 4: He's gone red.

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: He's gone red.

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: He's going