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Speaker 4: Here we go, one.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou, Paul Calvic, and nine year NFL veteran

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Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 5: So, unlike some veteran big names across the league who

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Speaker 5: are not where they're supposed to be on this Tuesday,

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Speaker 5: the three of us we did report to mini camp.

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Speaker 5: So welcome to day one of what is a three

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Speaker 5: day mandatory session. Although really there's not much of a

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Speaker 5: difference between OTAs mini camp. There's no contact, no one

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Speaker 5: on ones, but you do have to show up Rob,

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Speaker 5: especially if you're in a contract unless of course you're

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Speaker 5: unhappy with your contract, but here on the fields behind us,

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Speaker 5: everyone presents and accounted for. I agree with you in part, Oh, okay,

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Speaker 5: someone who played the game versus someone who did not

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Speaker 5: play the game.

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Speaker 4: There is a difference, there is, okay, between OTAs and

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Speaker 4: mini camp. The difference is the intensity ramps up for

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Speaker 4: mandatory mini camp because you have all the players out there,

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Speaker 4: you have the coaches out there. This is this is

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Speaker 4: as close as you can get to a structured practice

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Speaker 4: without the pads, as you're gonna see, and so that

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Speaker 4: that automatically elevates the intensity. But as far as OTAs

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Speaker 4: and Mini camp being voluntar Harry mandatory, I think it's

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Speaker 4: all mandatory. I do, I really do. And I think

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Speaker 4: this team sees it that way as well. I think

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Speaker 4: they really view it as it's an opportunity to get

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Speaker 4: out here and get better. You know, I don't care

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Speaker 4: what designation you put on it, but for me, I

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Speaker 4: think this entire offseason is mandatory for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: There was other one other subtle difference between OTO's and

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Speaker 5: Mini camp, and that's what we heard from Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 5: this morning. Paul, is the time players are allowed in

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Speaker 5: the building. That's the other subtle change from last week

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Speaker 5: versus this week. But again, no pads, and you're not

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Speaker 5: going to get a true evaluation until the pads are

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Speaker 5: put on.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's be clear, abundantly clear. If this wasn't mandatory,

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Speaker 6: the Red Sea Report, I would not.

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Speaker 5: Be here with you guys. Let's just get that out

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Speaker 6: As for other takeaways from what we just witnessed out there,

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Speaker 6: as I continue to towel off over here.

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Speaker 5: It was not that hot. It was eighty eight degrees

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Speaker 6: Graig, I'll be the determiner of my whether I was

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Speaker 6: hot or not. And and you know you're not the

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Speaker 6: boss of me and whether I'm hot, and you're out

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Speaker 6: there and I couldn't help. But notice you had Walter

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Speaker 6: Nolan the third standing next to Darius Robinson, standing next

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Speaker 6: to Kalais Campbell. So you have Round one twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 6: Round one twenty twenty four standing next to high Round

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Speaker 6: two two thousand and eight. Let that hang in the

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Speaker 6: air a minute. It was uh, but I tell you

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Speaker 6: what to actually see healthy capable defensive linemen. To then

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Speaker 6: look over to your right and to see Josh sweat

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Speaker 6: the potential to be very, very different, especially in the

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Speaker 5: I mentioned everyone present and accounted for. There were two

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Speaker 5: Those two players b j O Jalari and Belal Nichols.

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Speaker 5: And by my account, Paul, since you were at OTAs

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Speaker 6: Yeah, those two guys, maybe Jonah Williams is in that

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Speaker 6: He went down in the middle of training camp last year,

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Speaker 6: So where is he in that timetable? Once again, there's nothing.

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Speaker 6: You're not gonna win a job. Could you go out

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Speaker 6: there and be a disaster and lose your job? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and it's happened. It really has. If you go out

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Speaker 6: guess what you will lose? Reps come training camp a

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Speaker 6: lot of this and Rob correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 6: They're sort of assessing, all right, who's keeping up, especially

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Speaker 6: Cody Simon. Is he swimming or is he mastering the playbook?

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Speaker 6: omitting him from that inside linebacker race, and that's a mistake,

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Speaker 6: I think. But once again, to me, these are always

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Speaker 6: a situation where if you're a big lineman then Okay,

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Speaker 6: you're not gonna make much of an impressing But if

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Speaker 6: some of the individual drills, yeah, coaches are writing that down.

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Speaker 6: That is meaningful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is mini camp is really an opportunity for

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Speaker 4: the skilled players to show their stuff. The wide receivers,

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Speaker 4: as far as the interior, the offensive lineman, the defensive linemen,

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Speaker 4: they can't do a whole heck of a lot without pads.

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Speaker 4: Their their livelihood there, everything about them. Their DNA is

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Speaker 4: you're right, Paul, You know what are they're evaluating these

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Speaker 4: players in terms of their minds, not just how they

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Speaker 4: especially the rookies, they've had the opportunity with the OTAs

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Speaker 6: And they do go eleven on eleven during mandatory mini camp.

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Speaker 6: Now there's no physicality to it. But to Rob's point, Okay,

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Speaker 6: if we're going into and what did Trey mcbrice say,

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Speaker 6: more sauce, more emotion? So are you keeping up? Do

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Speaker 6: you know what you're doing? Kylo's of the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 6: He's purposely checking into something. All right, are you are

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Speaker 6: as far as the linemen go, true, they're not in pads.

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Speaker 6: It's not full contact. But what Jonathan Gannon said about

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Speaker 6: Walter Nolan the third earlier today the fast Twitch, you

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Speaker 6: footwork when Walter Nolan goes and an undrafted rookie, free

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Speaker 5: Well, here JG about Nolan, But before that, how about

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Speaker 5: we hear JG talk about what he's seen from this

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Speaker 5: team this offseason. Considering this is the final week coaches

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Speaker 7: Camp, there's guys that have really taken to heart what

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Speaker 7: But you know, from drill work the first day at

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Speaker 5: And that's good to hear. And again, the true evaluation

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Speaker 5: On this Tuesday, he put pen to paper and signed

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Speaker 5: his first NFL contract, a four year deal with a

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Speaker 5: fifth year option. This leaves only Will Johnson, the Cardinals'

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Speaker 5: of and it's just strictly x's and o's, and.

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Speaker 6: Look, that's what you want him concentrating on. You don't

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Speaker 5: Football, all football.

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Speaker 6: And you hear a lot of these college guys coming out,

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Speaker 6: Rob were you all Big ten academic? You know at

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Speaker 6: they're four years four years they're looking for Actually, Cody

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Speaker 6: They talk about. All right, you know what, it's so great.

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Speaker 6: It's all ball, literally, And then to me, that's exciting.

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Speaker 6: He goes, all right, what sort of potential? What else

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Speaker 4: It's amazing. The when you get to the NFL, everything

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Speaker 4: you're you're told when to show up, you're told when

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Speaker 4: you're told when to be in practice. Everything is kind

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Speaker 4: that's a lot of stress off the player's minds. Now,

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Speaker 4: they still got to get their homeowners insurance, Paul, they said,

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Speaker 4: they still got to mess with all that you know,

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Speaker 4: and and and you know, get a financial advisor, get

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Speaker 4: an account, and do all those things. But once you

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Speaker 4: time to just focus on what you're here to do,

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Speaker 4: and that's played football. That's what that's what this weekends about.

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Speaker 4: These next few days, it's about being a mini camp

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Speaker 4: and focusing one hundred percent on football.

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Speaker 5: And we know Walter can play football. By the way,

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Speaker 5: it's okay to call him Walt. He actually prefers to

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Speaker 5: be called Walt. I spoke with him briefly on Monday.

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Speaker 5: It's like, okay, like what Walt Walter?

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Speaker 6: What is If he gets mad at me for calling

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Speaker 6: him Walt, then I'm gonna blame you.

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Speaker 5: So okay, that's good. I have plausible deniability as far

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Speaker 7: go fast. There's no doubt about it. He's got some

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Speaker 5: Lupaul Calvici and Rob Frederickson here on day one of

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Speaker 4: needs to be to it. You gotta have a deep

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Speaker 4: man on that side to take that that deep cornerback

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Speaker 4: with him, and then you got to have different layers.

436
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Speaker 4: You got to have somebody underneath. You got to put

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Speaker 4: those defenders in conflict. You've got to put some stress

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Speaker 4: multiple players within a zone in order to have any

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Speaker 4: chance of success in that in that situation.

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Speaker 6: Zach Ertz was that guy. Zach Ertz was that guy

441
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Speaker 6: for Jane Daniels last year things broke down. He just

442
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Speaker 6: had the knack for finding a hole in the zone,

443
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Speaker 6: finding some open space, being there for his quarterback when

444
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Speaker 6: he's running for his life. This is something that Cardinals

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Speaker 6: are drilling. This is some than they're working on. Because

446
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Speaker 6: those two quarterbacks that Kyler listed, guess what you can

447
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Speaker 6: count on one hand how many guys have that sort

448
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Speaker 6: of athleticism, have a ninety nine athleticism score A Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen or Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray. Now you got

450
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Speaker 6: Jalen Milroe up in Seattle dot dot dot interesting. But

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Speaker 6: for the Cardinals, this is again where I think you're

452
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Speaker 6: gonna get more of the friction and training camp. I

453
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Speaker 6: think they're gonna simulate this more. Guess what, we're gonna

454
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Speaker 6: really play to the whistle. You're gonna compete to the whistle.

455
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Speaker 6: And you know what you and Kyler mentioned this as well.

456
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Speaker 6: The receivers have to stay active. Just because you ran

457
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Speaker 6: your route doesn't mean the plays dead. Kyler can extend

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Speaker 6: a play we saw against the Raiders in Vegas for

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Speaker 6: twenty plus seconds. Keep running your route. Keep the sixty

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Speaker 6: yard touchdown catch by Marvin Rison Junior Week two against

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Speaker 6: the Rams.

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Speaker 5: How did that happen? Organically?

463
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Speaker 6: Marvin Rison Junior just ad libs hey, and Kyler semi pointed,

464
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Speaker 6: said there's an open space, hit him on the stride

465
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Speaker 6: and boom, he's gone.

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Speaker 4: And guess what. Getting better at this and practice singing

467
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Speaker 4: this for the offense. This benefits of the defense too

468
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Speaker 4: because there at the same time they're doing the same drill.

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Speaker 4: And this benefits of defense. Because you mentioned Paul, there's

470
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Speaker 4: a lot of quarterbacks now in this league that have

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Speaker 4: the ability to run, the ability to extend plays and

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Speaker 4: the ability to throw the ball downfield. So this is

473
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Speaker 4: really a good drill. They should be doing it weekly

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Speaker 4: throughout the season. This is a good drill for both

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Speaker 4: the offense and the defense.

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Speaker 6: With all due respect to the New Orleans Saints. Okay,

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Speaker 6: it's never too early to talk about Week one and

478
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Speaker 6: game planning for the Saints. Hashtag beat the Saints. If

479
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Speaker 6: you're going against Kyler the entire month of August and

480
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Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, Tyler Shook is out there,

481
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Speaker 6: or Spencer Rattler or Jay Hayn or to Rob's point, yeah,

482
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Speaker 6: the defense all of a sudden. That's where practice makes

483
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Speaker 6: the game easy. And a lot of that has to

484
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Speaker 6: do with who you're competing against in Kyler Murray in practice.

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Speaker 5: Another aspect of this offense that could look a little

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Speaker 5: bit different, or maybe a lot different, something Trent McBride

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Speaker 5: brought up on his own when he addressed report earlier

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Speaker 5: here in the offseason.

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Speaker 11: It's not as fundamental, it's not as basic. They're adding

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Speaker 11: a lot of motions and a lot of you know,

491
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Speaker 11: sauce is what I call it, Just putting a little,

492
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Speaker 11: you know, extra flavor on the same plays that we have.

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Speaker 11: Maybe motion guys to it, running different guys in different things,

494
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Speaker 11: So trying to stick to our main, you know, concepts

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Speaker 11: that we have, but dressing them up in different ways.

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Speaker 11: Whether you know, one guy's running emotion or some guys

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Speaker 11: doing a route, but it's all kind of the same concepts,

498
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Speaker 11: just different ways to get to it. So, yeah, this

499
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Speaker 11: offense can be very complex.

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Speaker 5: And the way that.

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Speaker 11: Drew and these guys have changed throughout the offseason and

502
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Speaker 11: continue to build it, it's it's been a lot of

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Speaker 11: fun and I'm excited to, you know, see us in

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Speaker 11: action here.

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Speaker 5: My ears perked up when I heard that because I immediately

506
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Speaker 5: think of Kyle Shanahan and the quote unquote eye candy

507
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Speaker 5: before the snap. How many guys are in motion or

508
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Speaker 5: doing something that nothing's really changed as far as the

509
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Speaker 5: play that they ran three plays earlier. But to the defense,

510
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Speaker 5: rob it looks a heck of a lot difference, even

511
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Speaker 5: though it's completely the same.

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Speaker 4: It looks different if you panic, right, But if you

513
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Speaker 4: allow all that motion, all that shifting to happen, and

514
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Speaker 4: then when the ball snapped, what's the what's the final alignment? Right?

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Speaker 4: Where are the receivers, where the tight ends? Where are

516
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Speaker 4: the eligible receivers at at the final snap. Then you

517
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Speaker 4: know you can decipher it out in terms of what

518
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Speaker 4: coverages you're making, what coverages or your responsibilities are that

519
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Speaker 4: you know, they're just trying to mess with your mind

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Speaker 4: pre snap, but they're doing it to get to the

521
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Speaker 4: same concept. But a lot of times they'll do it

522
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Speaker 4: out of different personnel groups. They'll do it different motions,

523
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Speaker 4: different shifts, but ultimately it ends up being the same play.

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Speaker 4: It just do it with different people.

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Speaker 6: And obviously they're trying to create space, you know, get

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Speaker 6: more separation for receivers, but ultimately they're trying to make

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Speaker 6: the defense think, aren't they You know how how much

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Speaker 6: of a hesitation is lethal if you're a defender, if

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Speaker 6: you're just thinking that one extra half beat, that's a lot.

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Speaker 6: Teams like the forty nine ers, that's all they need

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Speaker 6: to get a seal block for instance, and open the lane.

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Speaker 4: This works really well against defenses that will change their

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Speaker 4: coverages based on alignment or based on motion or shifts.

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Speaker 4: They will completely change the coverage. Well, if you're doing

535
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Speaker 4: all that, you're motioning guys rapidly and fast right before

536
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Speaker 4: the snap, that can really screw with them. In terms

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Speaker 4: of just their responsibilities. Guys get confused, and a lot's

538
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Speaker 4: happening really quick. So a lot of times teams will

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Speaker 4: just dumb it down, just play one coverage regardless of

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Speaker 4: the final formation, and you'll see even you'll see offenses

541
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Speaker 4: kind of chill out on all that movement and stuff

542
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Speaker 4: and just get down to playing football.

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Speaker 5: And again with the offense is working on benefits the defense,

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Speaker 5: something we'll talk about as we continue here. On the

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Speaker 5: other side, the cornerback room, it is a young room

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Speaker 5: minus the veteran Sean Murphy Bunting. What can we expect

547
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Speaker 5: in the secondary. We'll get to that next Here on

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals radio network, pass on the.

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Speaker 3: Off side of the end zone, and it is incomplete.

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Speaker 3: Starling Thomas had good coverage.

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Speaker 9: It's one on one on the outside and that is

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Speaker 9: excellent coverage by Starling Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Fires right sideline, Thomas knocks it down. Good play by Thomas,

554
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Speaker 2: who is on Dobbs that time.

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Speaker 9: Excellent coverage right there by Starling Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Deep ball near side and it's incomplete.

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Speaker 3: What a job by star Thomas in cover John Gibson

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Speaker 3: at the twenty yard line. He turned around to defend

559
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Speaker 3: the ball and broke up the pass.

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Speaker 9: That is just so heads off by Thomas. This young

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Speaker 9: guy is developing and has been all Susan long.

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Speaker 5: We're just gonna eliminate Garrett Williams from the conversation here

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Speaker 5: in this segment when we talk about cornerbacks, because I

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Speaker 5: kind of put him in a different category. No, Paul

565
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Speaker 5: has nothing to do with his alma mater. It's a

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Speaker 5: position that he plays a slot corner. We are talking

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Speaker 5: about the outside corners here.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know my respect for Garrett Williams overcoming his

569
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Speaker 6: college experience at Syracuse to excel as a pro. It's remarkable,

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Speaker 6: it really is. He beat the odds.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we'll put Paul aside here for a moment.

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Speaker 5: Let's not talk about alma maters, especially on this day.

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Speaker 5: Rob right, I'm.

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Speaker 6: Surprised Rob Series not one of the assistants on the

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Speaker 6: Sun's coaching staff.

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Speaker 5: That's for another day. All right, this cornerback room again,

577
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Speaker 5: minus Garrett Williams. When you do not have Sean Murphy

578
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Speaker 5: bunting lost for the season before it even begins, you

579
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Speaker 5: look at guys like Starling Thomas, who all of a

580
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Speaker 5: sudden becomes a veteran in that room next to a

581
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Speaker 5: Max Melton one year in the league, and then Will

582
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Speaker 5: Johnson a year a rookie, and all of a sudden,

583
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Speaker 5: those three star Max and Will those at least right

584
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Speaker 5: now here as we talk in June, Rob are your

585
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Speaker 5: top three cornerbacks when you're talking about outside corner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's a young group, all right, and but it's

587
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Speaker 4: a talented group. And you throw in Elijah Jones, you know,

588
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Speaker 4: what's what's he going to be this year? How's he

589
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Speaker 4: gonna how's he going to come back from the injury

590
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Speaker 4: and and perform? You know, this this is a very

591
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Speaker 4: talented group. And couple that with the fact that you know,

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Speaker 4: I think they played at times, they played pretty well

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Speaker 4: last year despite not having a consistent pass rush, allowing

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Speaker 4: the quarterback uh time three four five seconds to to

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Speaker 4: make passes downfield. That's pretty hard to cover people that

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Speaker 4: long in this league with these quarterbacks. So this this

597
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Speaker 4: secondary is extremely talented. Yeah, they're young, but so what

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Speaker 4: you know, I like their youth, I like their their energy,

599
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Speaker 4: their their ability to make plays. And I think this

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Speaker 4: defense is perfect for a for young this this young

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Speaker 4: group to to really excel and and to make some

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Speaker 4: plays on the ball this year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how does the secondary get better?

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Speaker 5: You improve the pass run.

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Speaker 6: That's the rising tide that lifts all Boats, especially in

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Speaker 6: their defensive backfield. To Rob's point, Elijah Jones, I mean,

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Speaker 6: there's a guy who was so far under the radar

608
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Speaker 6: third round pick last year.

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Speaker 5: He's nearly six to two.

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Speaker 2: He ran a four four.

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Speaker 6: And he has really good ball skills and he has

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Speaker 6: a lot of experience as a starter of Boston College.

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Speaker 5: So what is he all about?

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Speaker 6: Where does that figure into the mix? So, yes, they

615
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Speaker 6: lost SMB to injury for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 6: but guess what, he was not a bona fide starter.

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Speaker 6: He was gonna have to compete. So if you're telling me,

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Speaker 6: it's Will Johnson and Max Melton and they're getting pushed

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Speaker 6: by Starling Thomas. In addition, you know to Garrett Williams,

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Speaker 6: and there's Elijah Jones from the outside coming in off

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Speaker 6: the top rope to compete. I mean, it's gonna to

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Speaker 6: me this is the most competitive position group on the team.

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Speaker 5: I mentioned year three for Starlin Thomas. Paul, you had

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Speaker 5: a conversation with star last week on The Big Red Rage,

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Speaker 5: and the question was asked where did Star believe he

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Speaker 5: has n't prove the most since that rookie year.

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Speaker 12: More comfortable, I know what to do. I'm comfortable in myself,

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Speaker 12: My teammates are comfortable in me, and now I just

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Speaker 12: I just go out there and play my game. I

630
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Speaker 12: know my game, I know what I'm good at. You know,

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Speaker 12: I know the things that I work on, and you know,

632
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Speaker 12: I'm just ready to go out there and continue to

633
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Speaker 12: make plays like I do.

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Speaker 5: And remember this was someone who was added to the

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Speaker 5: mix after training camp, right before week one because he

636
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Speaker 5: was claimed off waivers from the Detroit Lions. So now

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Speaker 5: you look at again the cornerbacks on this roster. We've

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Speaker 5: mentioned a handful of names, so I'll even throw it

639
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Speaker 5: out Key Treill Clark, someone who's a late round pick

640
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Speaker 5: but played a lot early in his career. Defensive coordinator

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Speaker 5: Nick Rowlis looking at that cornerback room, he's okay with

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Speaker 5: where everything stands at the moment.

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Speaker 13: Everybody's gonna make mistakes, and you gotta look at those

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Speaker 13: as learning opportunities, whether it's a young player or a vet. Ultimately,

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Speaker 13: you're looking for who's going to play at the highest

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Speaker 13: level and give us a chance to win the game,

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Speaker 13: and that's going to determine the roles regardless of years

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Speaker 13: in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Now, does something change between now and week one? Does

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Speaker 5: a veteran get added? I think we won't if one does.

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Speaker 5: Rob if they talk about the coaches in the front office,

652
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 5: they see something here in the off season training camp. Okay,

653
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 5: maybe we can't rely so much on the youth. We

654
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 5: do need to go out, But until they see that,

655
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: to me at least, there's no point in adding anyone

656
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: right now or even at the start of training camp

657
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: because it's a crowded room already. And you would hope,

658
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 5: as we talked about earlier, that pass rush, all of

659
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 5: a sudden, the secondary plays a lot better if there's

660
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: less time for them on the back end to cover

661
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Speaker 5: a wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree with you there. Look, you look

663
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Speaker 4: at the free agents available, the ones that have been

664
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Speaker 4: released or are not signed right now. In terms of

665
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: cornerbacks out there in the NFL, there's some really good

666
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: players that are available now. They're probably not cheap, they're

667
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: probably wanting a lot of money, and that's probably why

668
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: they're sitting at home right now. But I think the

669
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Speaker 4: coaching staff feels good about this room. They feel good

670
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: about the cornerbacks that they have. The youth is not

671
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 4: considered a hindrance, I don't think. I think they consider

672
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: that an asset. And a lot of these guys have

673
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Speaker 4: a lot of playing time under their belts, even though

674
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: they're only in their second or third seasons. It's because

675
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: they've had to play a lot the last couple of years.

676
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 4: And and you know, that's how you learn the most

677
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: is by actually getting out there and doing it and

678
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: making mistakes and correcting them and coming back and having

679
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: a short memory is really the number one asset I

680
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 4: think that that a cornerback can have is letting the

681
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 4: previous play go and and coming back and playing better.

682
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: And that's you know, there's there's enough talent here, I think,

683
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: and with the additions that that the Cardinals have added

684
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: in terms of the front four and the edge rushing

685
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: that this this group is going to surprise some people.

686
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 4: It's good. It's gonna be a group that's gonna do

687
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: some good things this season.

688
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Speaker 6: I know the fans are out there, like geez Jay

689
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 6: r Alexander was released by the Packers yesterday. Okay, it's

690
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 6: intriguing when healthy, he's elite thing is he's played seven

691
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 6: games each of the last two years and got a

692
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 6: one game suspension from his own team for appointing himself

693
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Speaker 6: a team captain and going out and being part of

694
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: the coin toss in his hometown of Charlotte.

695
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Speaker 5: That's still the best story.

696
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 6: That is a true no comprendo right there. So with

697
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 6: so remember the first filter for Monty and JG. Do

698
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 6: we want this person in the building? Starling Thomas is

699
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 6: one of those dudes not to mention. He ran a

700
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 6: four to eight at his pro day. So I think

701
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 6: there's enough talent here, Craig. They've drafted seven corners in

702
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 6: the last three drafts combined. That's a lot. There's a

703
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 6: lot of talent in their mind. In Jonathan Gannon, that's

704
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 6: his position, group of expertise. He knows what he's looking

705
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 6: for in a corner. And to Rob's point, I think

706
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 6: they have a half dozen dudes they really like, at

707
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Speaker 6: least in that room.

708
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Speaker 5: The numbers that I believe Rawllas would like to see

709
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 5: improve the interceptions only nine last season, sixty three passes defense.

710
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 5: Those two numbers are both near the bottom third of

711
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: the league. How do you increase those numbers. We're again

712
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 5: going back to what we've talked about all off season

713
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 5: as far as the improvements along the front seven. Now,

714
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden, the quarterback doesn't have nearly as

715
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 5: much time to throw stand there in the pocket. Maybe

716
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 5: there are some more hands on footballs by that secondary. Darlinge.

717
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 5: Thomas on The Big Red Rage talked about just that.

718
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 12: We can feel the difference of the passers right now

719
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 12: at Oca's man so better pastors come.

720
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Speaker 5: Work takes. You can feel it already.

721
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Speaker 12: We can feel it already.

722
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Speaker 6: We can so explain that to us football one on one.

723
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Speaker 12: You know, we can just feel that the rushers are

724
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 12: getting there. Everything's getting there, like we feel good about it.

725
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 12: We love it. We watch it on FM. Everybody's working man.

726
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 12: We love the how the front seven is liquing.

727
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Speaker 5: It's interesting because I know it's not full speed, you're

728
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 5: not in pads. But what we've always heard that the

729
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 5: offense is typically ahead of the defense. You hear Star

730
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 5: talk to you about that, Paul, and it's like, oh,

731
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 5: maybe not so much because of what they've done, not

732
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 5: only talent wise, and maybe even changing the scheme perhaps

733
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 5: a little bit.

734
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Speaker 6: I mean, look and Josh Wett talked about this when

735
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 6: he signed with the Cardinals, just about what a premier

736
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 6: pass rush does for the entire defense in a secondary.

737
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 6: The Eagles got away with two rookie corners last year

738
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 6: all the way to the Super Bowl. And I don't

739
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 6: mean to put you guys on the spot. Name one

740
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 6: corner on the Rams roster. Okay, they had a really

741
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 6: good defense the end of last year. You know why

742
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 6: because at front seven was bawling. All of a sudden,

743
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 6: Jared versus your defensive rookie of the year, Bradon Fisk

744
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 6: had seven sacks in the last eight games, Kobe Turner,

745
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 6: Byron Young. All of a sudden, the Rams found a

746
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 6: pass rush, and that cornerback group that Marvin Harrison roasted

747
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 6: in Week two, all of a sudden, they were a

748
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 6: lot better down the stretch.

749
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Speaker 5: That certainly would be the hope going into this coming season.

750
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: And we always hear rush, cover, rush, but I think

751
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 5: that was a big factor and why there were so

752
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 5: many additions to the defense this offseason.

753
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Speaker 4: Roup. Yeah, and I think the past the Cardinals got

754
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: a lot of coverage sacks and because look it was

755
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 4: three four five seconds of coverage. And finally somebody got

756
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 4: to the quarterback. So I think you're gonna see a

757
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: lot more explosiveness. You're gonna see a lot more twitchiness

758
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: from this front four that are that are rushing. These

759
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: guys can bring it and this is going to really

760
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 4: help out the cornerback room.

761
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Speaker 6: Seahawks have drafted corners high, but they don't have the

762
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Speaker 6: pass rush. They're not making the playoffs.

763
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Speaker 5: Well, speaking of that front seven, the veteran leadership and

764
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 5: the defensive line will discuss what we saw in the

765
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 5: field earlier here on Tuesday. Those new names in that

766
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Speaker 5: d line room. That's next here on the Arizona Cardinals

767
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Speaker 5: Radio network.

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Speaker 2: Let's got to throw pleasure pious.

769
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: Dalvin Tomlinson flying through the middle in a sack, just trot.

770
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Speaker 2: Down, the packet collapses and down he goes. The ball

771
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: is out, Calvin Tomlin said.

772
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: With the strip sack pass played for breeze and trouble

773
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: bumbles the bone AND's caught out of the air by

774
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: Cambell and he's running.

775
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: Free at the thirty.

776
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 3: At the twenty, they'll take it all the way and

777
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: any of the end zone for the Cardinal touchdown.

778
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 9: Kaleias Campbell caught the ball out of the air and

779
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 9: took it to the house.

780
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Speaker 14: Had a lot of fun playing in the stadium, you know,

781
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 14: just hanging with the bird gang, the energy. I fell

782
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 14: off it for nine years, you know, and it's it's

783
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 14: been quite the pleasure.

784
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 5: Who says you can't go home again? Klais Campbell is back.

785
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 5: I'm still smiling.

786
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I almost feel sheepish.

787
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I hear his voice. I smile.

788
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: I see him out in that fuel earlier today, Big

789
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 6: ninety three.

790
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 5: I smile.

791
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 6: It's just what is it about Kalis Campbell's return that

792
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 6: has everybody just great.

793
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: Vibes, almost like kneecaps or something that's right. That's why

794
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 4: he's smiling. He's looking right at Klay's's kneecaps.

795
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 6: I did say, I'm getting in the same photo frame

796
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 6: with I'm just okay. I don't no two shots with

797
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 6: Kaleis Campbell, not to self a reminder right.

798
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 5: There, he's back in his old uniform. What old is

799
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 5: new again? Ninety three? He looks the part still very

800
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 5: active during drills. Did not take a rep off at

801
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: least while we were out there during the open portion

802
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 5: of practice, and then the other play by play sound

803
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 5: that we heard was Dalvin Tomlinson, and you just watch

804
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 5: him in uniform. Forget the fact that he's a large individual,

805
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 5: but the way the shoulder pads fit on him. And

806
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 5: we were talking about this before the show began, Paul,

807
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: he he just looks like a wide body, a giant

808
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 5: square who's going to take not just one gap, maybe

809
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 5: a gap and a half or maybe even two gaps

810
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 5: on that D line.

811
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Speaker 6: So they listen him at three twenty five. Are we

812
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 6: buying that on Dalvin Tomlinson. U just let that hang

813
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: in the air of the minute. When I see Dalvin Thomason,

814
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 6: I see Kaleis Campbell, and I see them standing next

815
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 6: to the two first round the last two years, Darius

816
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 6: Robinson Walter Nolan the third, I just think, Okay, what

817
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: do the two veterans know that the two young guys

818
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 6: are gonna find out and everything we might see in

819
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: training camp from fifty six and ninety seven, the two

820
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 6: young guys Guess what, ninety three and ninety four, You're

821
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 6: not gonna truly appreciate their prowess until week one at

822
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Speaker 6: New Orleans because that's what they're gonna flip the switch

823
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 6: and all the knowledge they have, and all the skill

824
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 6: they have is going to be on display in a

825
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 6: regular season game.

826
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Speaker 5: So you have to wait.

827
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 6: You just have to be patient, and then I fully

828
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 6: expect that their experience and their expertise it'll pay off,

829
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Speaker 6: especially if you're bringing waves of defensive linemen in. You

830
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 6: have eight legitimate NFL defensive linemen and guess what, attention

831
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 6: New Orleans offensive line. You're gonna get guys who are

832
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 6: gonna be chomping at the bit when they get their

833
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 6: thirty reps or so, because that's how deep this Cardinals

834
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Speaker 6: defensive front potentially can be.

835
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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, this defensive front is stacked for the airs

836
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: on a Cardinals that is a problem to have. I

837
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: think in terms of are they gonna keep them all?

838
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 4: You know, who are you gonna who you're gonna part

839
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 4: ways with? And you know they still have training camp

840
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: to figure that out. But there's a lot of talent

841
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 4: in this room, and guys like Darius Robinson and Walt Nolan,

842
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 4: they're gonna really benefit from the veteran leadership and and

843
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 4: just the inside information from guys like Klais Campbell and Tomlinson.

844
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: They're they're gonna be able to tell them when you're

845
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: lined up in this free technique, make sure you do

846
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: this this move first, and just these little things that

847
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: even coaches don't know about or don't don't teach players,

848
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: no specific players on other teams as well, And so

849
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 4: just in terms of the game plan, they've gone and

850
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: got Clais Campbell has gone against everybody in this league

851
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: multiple times. He's got a book on everybody. That's a

852
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: that's a wealth of knowledge that that even coaches don't have.

853
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: So that, to me, the importance of Clais Campbell is

854
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: beyond just what he can do on a field. It's

855
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 4: also what he can impart on these young guys and

856
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 4: and really help them along the way.

857
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: Even some of those veterans that not don't have nearly

858
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 5: as much time in the league as Khalais, but a

859
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 5: mac Wilson senior who is still relatively getting used to

860
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: his position within this defense as far as a starter

861
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden being the veteran presence at

862
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 5: inside lineback with no Kaisier White, but mac Wilson senior

863
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 5: recently on the Big Red Rage talking about Kalais Campbell

864
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Speaker 5: and oh, by the way, this was also Adrian Wilson.

865
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 5: Parts of the conversation as well.

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Speaker 10: He's the Lebron James of football. I tell my people

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Speaker 10: for him to be still doing it at a high

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Speaker 10: level like that, like it's pretty amazing, and like I

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Speaker 10: told him when I met him, like it's honor to

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Speaker 10: just to be a part of history and his journey.

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Speaker 10: It's a blessing just to be able to say I

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Speaker 10: played on a team with a guy like that.

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Speaker 14: And another thing too, Just don't forget this. Keep this

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Speaker 14: in your back pocket at all times. When Kalais starts

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Speaker 14: talking too much, just tell him to shut up, all right,

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Speaker 14: all right, just just tell him to shut up. I gotcha,

877
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Speaker 14: all right, cool, all right.

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Speaker 5: We need to be in the room if that ever happens,

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00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 5: because yeah, at mcim becusson, you were there the pilot conversation,

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00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 5: a third wheel, I guess, Max shaking and said, sure,

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Speaker 5: I'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No one's telling six foot eight Kalays Campbellton shut up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Adrian Wilson is an exclusive group right there, guys

885
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Speaker 6: who can look up and into the eyes of Kalayis

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Speaker 6: Campbell and hold him accountable. Here's what I think of

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Speaker 6: as well, when I think of mac Wilson Senior and

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Speaker 6: I think of the inside linebackers. I wonder about the

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Speaker 6: before and after versus last season when the Cardinals D

890
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 6: line was banged up, how much cleaner they're gonna be

891
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Speaker 6: at the second level of this defense. And you're not

892
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Speaker 6: in your head as someone who's been there and done that, right, Rob.

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Speaker 4: Well, I've been talking about Owen Popo for forever in

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Speaker 4: terms of I think he's a guy that can really ascend,

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Speaker 4: especially with this defensive line the additions that have come in,

896
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Speaker 4: and to keep a guy like that, keep him unobstructed,

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Speaker 4: keep him offensive lineman off of him, and allow him

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Speaker 4: to run sideline to sideline, a guy that runs probably

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Speaker 4: a four to three. I mean, come on, that's that's

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Speaker 4: to me. That's something that you get excited about because

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00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: the knock on him maybe is that he's undersized a

902
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: little bit and he can get swallowed up by offensive lineman. Well,

903
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Speaker 4: if the offensive lineman aren't problem because they're occupied with

904
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: our bigger defensive and faster defensive line, that spells some

905
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Speaker 4: good things for linebackers.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know if it's a prop bet with

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Speaker 6: bet MGM, but whatever the projected tackle total is for

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Speaker 6: MacWilson Senior, if it's based on last year, h take

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Speaker 6: the over, because not only was he playing the edge

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Speaker 6: a lot last year, but guess what, he's gonna be

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Speaker 6: that much cleaner this year.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna have the ability to seek and destroy a

913
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Speaker 5: lot to be excited about these new faces, fresh faces defensively,

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Speaker 5: of course, we all want to see them in action,

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Speaker 5: and we will get that before you know it, because yes,

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Speaker 5: after this week there is a six week break, but

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Speaker 5: the break never never happens here on the Cardinals Mets Report.

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Speaker 5: We will be back with you in one week's time.

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Speaker 5: Until then, special thanks everyone behind the scenes, our executive

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Speaker 5: producer Jill Mamahure, Associate producer, could he Fincher, Technical director

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Speaker 5: Ryan Sacora, Rob Frederickson, paulk Alvicat. I agree with Lous.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's a touchdown boot a Baker with the sacked

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Speaker 3: strip the ball where he's gonna score touchdown?

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