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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul CALVISI joins me

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Speaker 1: back from Nashville and just in time to make some decisions,

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Speaker 1: roster decisions. We'll go position by position, the questions we have,

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Speaker 1: the questions the front office may have. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: episode five eighty five, and it starts now, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, hitting the back field and down he

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Speaker 1: of five Pies in again. So for Harry Magic, whoa.

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolou not saying I want to be a

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Speaker 1: general manager or a personnel director. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: wce or certainly don't need that stress in my life.

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Speaker 1: But Paul, it is fun to play those roles every

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Speaker 1: now and then. The thing is if you're indecisive, and

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Speaker 1: some of us are. Just ask my wife. You know,

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Speaker 1: you walk into like a big box store and I

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Speaker 1: can't make a decision because there's too many choices. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's where it can get really perplexing in a case

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Speaker 1: like this, because, as we're about to find out here,

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Speaker 1: we can make a case for a lot of different

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Speaker 1: guys for a lot of different reasons. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, you better be decisive, sort of

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Speaker 1: like making your read as a quarterback, make the read,

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Speaker 1: make the throw. Always easier when you have a deadline

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Speaker 1: to make those decisions, so you can't procrastinates. And the

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Speaker 1: deadline is one pm on Tuesday. So let's kind of

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Speaker 1: just go position by a position, what we've seen, what

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Speaker 1: we've heard, and we can start at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: And when the head coach says, oh, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: keeping three quarterbacks is what I would like to do,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's necessary, and he gave a very

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Speaker 1: compelling reason to keep three quarterbacks. So not that Cliff

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Speaker 1: as far as how many quarterbacks will be on this

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he has a bit of a saft spot.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Now. The only pushback I

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Speaker 1: we honestly don't know. Cliff Kingsbury has made his wishes

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Speaker 1: an impression and a convincing case upstairs. I'm not exactly sure,

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Speaker 1: but there are compelling reasons, no doubt. Number one, you

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Speaker 1: he doesn't know the playbook. Plus there's a situation with

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Speaker 1: So where does that leave him exactly? All indications are

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Speaker 1: I think those two areas combine making compelling case. The

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Speaker 1: That's what it is, right, so I don't know. You

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Speaker 1: And he is nothing against Cole McCoy, but he is

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Speaker 1: So you have that going for you. And look, once again,

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Speaker 1: Looking at the snap counts from Saturday, Ingram fifty nine

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Speaker 1: to be on this roster? No? But there are five

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Speaker 1: the case. I love Arizona and we're gonna see what happens.

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Speaker 1: You hear that, Paul, and I'm reminded of when he

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Speaker 1: was drafted in twenty nineteen, long time ago, and the

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Speaker 1: first time we heard from Andy Isabella, I believe it

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Speaker 1: was you and Ron Wilfley right here inside the Dignity

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Speaker 1: Health Arizona Cardinals training Center, Big Red Rage and that

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Speaker 1: Andy Isabella. Fast forward to what we heard Saturday nights.

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Speaker 1: Two different people, two different players, and it's because there's

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Speaker 1: two different mindsets. I agree that before and they after

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Speaker 1: what you heard three years ago on the Big Red

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Speaker 1: Rage and Andy Isabella, who had made a couple of plays,

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Speaker 1: including that eighty eight yard catching run against the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers early in his career, and he saw the

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Speaker 1: speed and he housed it on that one and he

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Speaker 1: got behind the Niners secondary after making the grab. That

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Speaker 1: was a guy who was very honest and forthright that

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Speaker 1: you know what, His confidence wasn't always there. That's not

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Speaker 1: the same guy you just heard. He came out and

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Speaker 1: he still had his game face on after the game.

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Speaker 1: It was palpable the intensity during that interview, he came

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Speaker 1: out and he was still locked in. He started camp

447
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Speaker 1: locked in, he ended camp locked in. Everybody else is

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Speaker 1: in that locker room and said, all right, what are

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Speaker 1: they serving on the team playing preseason? Oh no, not

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Speaker 1: Andy Isabella. He was still fuming. He has taken all

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Speaker 1: of this personal and you hurt it, and you saw

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Speaker 1: it on the field with his production and if I'm

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Speaker 1: the coaches, I love it. He is poised and everyone asks, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: what could his role be in the regular season. We'll

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Speaker 1: wait a minute. If Rondale Moore is going to be

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Speaker 1: more of a downfield guy, at the very least, Andy

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Speaker 1: Isabella could be this year's Rondale Moore, the horizontal lateral guy,

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Speaker 1: get him in space, get him in the ball use

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Speaker 1: every single game he got behind the opponent's secondary. He

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Speaker 1: got behind the Cardinals starting secondary in camp. We both

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Speaker 1: saw agree. At the very least, he has that ability

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Speaker 1: to draw a big PI penalty, a spot foul that

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Speaker 1: turns into a chunk play, and you know he is

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Speaker 1: a smoldering fire that everyone else can feed off up.

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Speaker 1: That's the sort of evolution from a guy who was

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Speaker 1: a little bit timid to start. Now he is fierce

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Speaker 1: in his personality. He's playing angry, and sometimes that can

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Speaker 1: be a detriment to someone because then you start to

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Speaker 1: you're a little bit too aggressive, too hyped up. But

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Speaker 1: that might work for Andy Isabella, and he might need

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Speaker 1: to be able to do that in order to have success,

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Speaker 1: like the Cardinals thought when they drafted him back in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. And you know what, the way last season ended,

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Speaker 1: not just losing five or last six, but just the

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Speaker 1: humiliation of that playoff loss and national TV in prime time,

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Speaker 1: you would hope more guys would have that mindset. You

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Speaker 1: would hope that more guys would be irked and truly

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Speaker 1: ready to come out and show the world that seven

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Speaker 1: and zero, ten and two was not a fluke. And

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt Andy Isabella has that mindset. Greg Dortch

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Speaker 1: has that mindset, and you would hope that's contagious within

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals locker room, because once again, it was palpable

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Speaker 1: just listening to it. Drew stan and I immediately looked

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Speaker 1: at each other like wow, interesting, and then we just

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Speaker 1: gave him the floor and let him talk and share

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Speaker 1: his mindset because it was a pleasure to watch him

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Speaker 1: work in practice and in the games. Nobody took it

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Speaker 1: as serious as Andy Isabella put it this way, not

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Speaker 1: that I don't always appreciate the postgame interviews that you conduct,

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Speaker 1: and it has nothing to do with the interview or

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Speaker 1: more likely the interviewe but that was one of those interviews.

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Speaker 1: Even the day after. Heck, even here on this Monday morning,

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Speaker 1: you're still talking about it, thinking about it, and it's wow,

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Speaker 1: where did that come from? Who is that player? And

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Speaker 1: you know what, when you had a joint practice with

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Speaker 1: a Titans team, you realize how blessed the Cardinals are

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Speaker 1: at the receiver position. Because when you're looking at the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and they have Robert Woods as their number

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Speaker 1: one receiver, Okay, he's a nice piece, but he's in

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Speaker 1: your ten or eleven. He's coming off an ACL he's

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Speaker 1: your number one receiver. A Treylon Brooks has been very inconsistent.

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Speaker 1: The first round rookie take in eighteenth. Overall, you have

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Speaker 1: a Kyle Phillips, the fourth round rookie out of UCLA,

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Speaker 1: who was really made waves in Titans camp. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's because you're really thin a receiver. You forget how

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Speaker 1: thin other teams are at one of the most important

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Speaker 1: positions in the NFL in today's game, the receiver room.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious if he is on the trade block,

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Speaker 1: what would an Andy Isabella command Because of the speed,

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Speaker 1: because of the production you saw a former second round pick.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Can you package him up with a

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Speaker 1: running back and a pick and get an actual legitimate

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Speaker 1: corner Now, the problem is cornerbacks are just as difficult,

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Speaker 1: if not more difficult, to secure, and teams value them.

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Speaker 1: But maybe there's someone at the end of a contract

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Speaker 1: that you know teams don't want to pay. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the Cardinals do at corner, but if you

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Speaker 1: can patch up a couple of these offensive guys were

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Speaker 1: talking about and cash it in on the defensive side,

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Speaker 1: that would be an ideal situation. Last position group on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side the offensive line, nine ten. What is

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Speaker 1: the number you dress eight on game day? I'll say

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Speaker 1: this though the debut of Coody Ford. It was just

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Speaker 1: one series, but it was interesting to point out and

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Speaker 1: watch when that team ran the ball. When the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: ran the ball, they were running left yep and it

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Speaker 1: was sort of like the Cincinnati game where they ran

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Speaker 1: behind Will Hernatz. This time they ran behind Cody Ford

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Speaker 1: and man that offensive line got a push and it

530
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Speaker 1: was an easy touchdown. Darryl Williams just walked right into

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Speaker 1: the end zone. So Cody Ford I see him as

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Speaker 1: a very very similar to Will Hernandez in that situation.

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Speaker 1: He's playing for the next contract, former high second round pick,

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Speaker 1: similar body type, So that six foot through your refrigerator type.

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Speaker 1: You are not moving him off the ball? What is

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Speaker 1: this pass protection? Like? That's the question mark. Just like

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Speaker 1: a Will Hernandez. There's no doubt they're both going to

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Speaker 1: come off the ball and they're gonna be maulers. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be road graders in the run game. And I

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Speaker 1: think also you have a situation where because of circumstances,

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Speaker 1: they were no longer valued by the original team despite

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Speaker 1: their high draft status, and they were deemed expendable. So, okay,

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Speaker 1: can they come into this situation? Can they excel? There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt Cody Ford has made this team Will Hernandez

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Speaker 1: right now as a starter. So let's see here, Let's

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Speaker 1: name some names. D J. Humphrey's, Justin Pugh, Rodney Hudson,

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, Kelvin Beecham, left or right, there's your five.

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Speaker 1: Cody Ford is on this team. John Harlow is on

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Speaker 1: this team. That's seven. Josh Jones Gotta he's eight. Joshua Miles,

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Speaker 1: he's on the bubble. Otherwise, who am I forgetting here?

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Speaker 1: Now you get to the two rookies, Lucida Smith. I

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Speaker 1: don't see Lucida Smith making the final fifty three. I

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Speaker 1: think you can feasibly get him to the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: As much as they like his future, it's not right now.

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Speaker 1: Markis Hayes. I think has made this team despite his

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Speaker 1: injury that robbed him of a lot of valuable reps

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. I think he showed enough, and I

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Speaker 1: think he has the mindset much like a Cody Ford

559
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Speaker 1: and a Will hernand has that mean streak that the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals think they need, especially in this division, going against

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Speaker 1: the Nick Bosa's and the Aaron Donalds and the way

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks love to dial up the front seven. I

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Speaker 1: think Marky's Hayes. I have a hard time envisioning the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals leaving him on the outside looking in plays with

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Speaker 1: an edge, which we heard DJ Humphries talk about and

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Speaker 1: that's something then you can't teach. But you hope that

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Speaker 1: Markus Hayes is not needed early in the season, if

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Speaker 1: he can get just a little bit more practice time,

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Speaker 1: some more development, and then plug in if needed. And

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Speaker 1: then you talk about Rashad Coward, who at one point

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Speaker 1: I thought was going to make this team, gets hurt

572
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: Saturday night with a chess injury, but even before getting

573
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Speaker 1: hurt had not played all that while there was a

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Speaker 1: dip in production. Yeah, that Ravens game was not good.

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Speaker 1: So when all of a sudden is okay, Well, maybe

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Speaker 1: now you're looking towards a younger player who can play inside.

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Speaker 1: That opens up the door for a Marquis Hayes. What

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Speaker 1: about Ajustin Murray? What are your thoughts on Adjustin Murray?

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Speaker 1: Just haven't seen enough of him. The frustration level with

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Speaker 1: his injury history over the last year and a half

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Speaker 1: has to be really high in the front office. A

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Speaker 1: guy who came in off the street three years ago

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Speaker 1: and started virtually every game at right tackle and a

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Speaker 1: pinch and played really well and guy and got a

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Speaker 1: lot better over the course of the season. He was

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Speaker 1: your best right guard a year ago, but he missed

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Speaker 1: fifteen games. You know, what do you do about a

588
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: guy like that? Is there an injury settlement in his future?

589
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: Is he put on pop in some way? Now? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but I think Justin Murray is a tough

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Speaker 1: decision that they just can't continue with him based it's

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Speaker 1: more unavailability instead of ability. Well, remember the battle at

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Speaker 1: right guard. There was supposed to be a healthy competition

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Speaker 1: amongst Will Hernandez Justin Murray. I know Josh Jones was

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Speaker 1: thrown into that mixed by the general manager, but more,

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Speaker 1: let's see what we've got in a Will Hernandez and

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Speaker 1: Justin Murray. And that was never a competition and it

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Speaker 1: was always Will Hernandez. He might have gotten the first look,

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Speaker 1: but then before Justin Murray was able to really do anything,

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Speaker 1: he gets hurt and these just stayed on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: I think the trade for Cody Ford and the willingness

602
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Speaker 1: to give up a fifth round pick for Cody Ford

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Speaker 1: knocked out Rashad Coward and Justin Murray. That one move there,

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Speaker 1: and if there's anything that's to be determined, it's who's

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Speaker 1: going to be on the street. That's my understand that

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Speaker 1: it's not necessarily some of these younger or lesser guys.

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Speaker 1: It's who's out on the street at the end of

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Speaker 1: this process, and if there is another proven offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: with positional flexibility, there is a decent chance that player

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Speaker 1: could come in. All right, let's switch sides talk defense

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, probably partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals, and start with defensive line. And

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Speaker 1: you want a number of defensive linemen to keep that

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Speaker 1: rotation going. But that also factors in. Okay, maybe you

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Speaker 1: need more outside linebackers. But if you look at that

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Speaker 1: defensive line room, JJ Watt, Zach Allen, Lecky Foe two

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Speaker 1: or Shard Lawrence, I think those are locks. Michael Dogby,

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Speaker 1: I know, played a lot of snaps in flats behind

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen played the most snaps on the defensive line

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Speaker 1: a year ago. And then Jonathan Ledbetter I think has

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Speaker 1: had an outstanding camp and has really popped in these

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Speaker 1: preseason games, as well as Manny Jones. Although that's an

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Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agent that you might be able to

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Speaker 1: slide onto the practice squad. I'm intrigued by Manny Jones

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Speaker 1: and what he has shown. So this team do they

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Speaker 1: keep six seven defensive lineman? More likely six? Question is

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Speaker 1: if it is six, who is number six? You know,

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Speaker 1: I think this is where you steal a spot. This

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Speaker 1: is where you steal a spot for a loaded receiver,

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Speaker 1: room for three quarterbacks, for three or four tight ends.

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Speaker 1: This is where you steal a spot. You rob Peter

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Speaker 1: to pay Paul, and you only go with five. JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt and Zach Allen. They're your starter. Zach Allen has

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Speaker 1: had a heck of a camp. I think he's poised

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Speaker 1: for a big year. And then Richard Lawrence, Lucky Foe

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Speaker 1: two and Michael Dogby the fact none of those guys

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Speaker 1: played in Tennessee, they're in so you know it does

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Speaker 1: Jonathan ledbetter as good as he looked. That's one of

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Speaker 1: those final day cuts you have to make. And if

640
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: you can get him to the practice squad Manny Jones

641
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: and undrafted rookie dot Colorado State. As much as we

642
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: all loved watching seventy five, all his production was in

643
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: the second half of preseason games. Does he have a

644
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: great motor even in the drills here would sprint in,

645
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: he would sprint out. You know, that's just the way

646
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: he is. And you saw him running down the field

647
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: and running down ball carriers from behind. They love his

648
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: motor Manny Jones, but let's pump the brakes a little

649
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: bit on an undrafted rookie out of Colorado State who

650
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: only excelled in the second half of these preseason games.

651
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: He's not cracking the fifty three. So you go with

652
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: five and then how many times do we see three

653
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: down linemen on that defense that Van Shoseph runs, Because

654
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: there have been several times in the last couple of

655
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: years where you just have two and you go a

656
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: little bit heavier with trying to get into the backfield

657
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: and then also maybe a little bit heavier depending on

658
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: who you're playing, as far as we need more coverage

659
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: in the back end versus guys moving that offensive line.

660
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: I mean, just say this, did we not see Cameron

661
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: Thomas in a four point stand? We did at times

662
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: in the game. Cameron Thomas, the former No stackle for

663
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: San Diego State, now listed as an outside linebacker, and yes,

664
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: we've seen him down the field twenty yards and coverage

665
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: on a tight ends as well, there's no doubt about that.

666
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: But in a pinch, there's a package where if you

667
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: need to load that line of scrimmage and stack the box.

668
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: He can easily get in that four point stance is

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00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: a five technique or whatever. So I think Cameron Thomas

670
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: is almost akin to a swing offensive lineman. He can

671
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: play up and down that line, and that's some of

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00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: the justification justification for keeping a third round rookie on

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Speaker 1: this roster. Here's another name I'll just throw out there

674
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: that don't forget. Corey Peters is still out on the street.

675
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: So if in need knock on wood, you're not. But

676
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: in case of injury, there is a veteran who's out

677
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: on the street. You know. Much like we've talked to

678
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: Darren Urban about some of these corners that are out there,

679
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't bring in that big name corner until

680
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: after week one because now you're not beholding to a

681
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: guaranteed salary the entire length of his season. But Corey

682
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: Peters could be a guy that you know they have

683
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: that name on quickdial just in case. I like the

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00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: thought process on why perhaps this team goes lighter at

685
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: defensive line and only keeps five where you can go

686
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: a little bit heavier somewhere out to maybe heavier at

687
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: outside linebacker. Trying to figure out who's going to get

688
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: into the backfield, who's going to rush to the quarterback.

689
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: You know, Marcus Golden is one, as long as he

690
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: is healthy enough and that toe gets healed up in

691
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: time by week one. Wink wink. Now, by the way,

692
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: I do have a hot take a little bit later.

693
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: Now there's a hot take that might involve the number

694
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: four or fours, So remind me to bring that a

695
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: little bit later. Love the hot takes that Paul calBC

696
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: brings on any number of platforms here on Easy Cardinals,

697
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: are you listening KVB so elsewhere? Devon Knard, Dennis Cardack,

698
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: those are known commades. Gardak has looked outstanding. Yep. Canard

699
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: is rushing the quarterback more than we've seen him in

700
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: the previous two seasons, wearing a Cardinal's uniform, much more

701
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 1: like what he did with the Lions and the Giants.

702
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: Victor D. Mccagee, I think we've already discussed him as

703
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: far as the improvement that he has made. And then

704
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: there's the three edge rushers. You drafted Cameron Thomas, my

705
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: J Sanders third round picks. You're not getting rid of

706
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: either one of those now, The question mark is has

707
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: Jesse Looketta done enough, whether on defense or special teams,

708
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: to where maybe Jeff Rogers says, there's something with this kid.

709
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: He becomes active on game day because of his ability

710
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: to play special teams, and they like him, and he's

711
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: versatile and he has more of a burst than they thought.

712
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: Jesse Looketta for a guy who didn't run very well

713
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: going into the draft, and he's got a lot of dog.

714
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: He plays tough, he plays the right way. He's sort

715
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: of the defensive version of Lucida Smith. You like him.

716
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: He has a future with this team potentially, but as

717
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: a Day three pick, you just can't justify keeping him

718
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: on the final fifty three. And you don't figure that

719
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: another team is gonna put those guys on their final

720
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: fifty three. So Lucida Smith and Jesse Lookeetta are two

721
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: of the last names you cut, but they are going

722
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: going to be on the outside looking in and probably

723
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: headed to the practice squad. Something to think about because

724
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: at one point earning training camp, I thought the entire

725
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: draft class had the potential to make the roster, and

726
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: that's unheard of when you have, you know, day three

727
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: picks and you hope that you're able to develop them

728
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: not initially make the fifty three man roster. But I'm

729
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: really fascinated to know what's going to happen at outside

730
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: linebacker because if you did have if you did have

731
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: that alpha as far as getting to the quarterback i e.

732
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, then you might be able to go lighter

733
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: at outside linebacker. But we keeps hearing what we're going

734
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: to do it by committee. I was okay, well with

735
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: the committee. That means you need a number of people

736
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: in that committee to get the job done. It can't

737
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: be a committee at two or three. You need a

738
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: number of different players if you're going to try to

739
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: figure out what's the best way to disrupt the opposing quarterback.

740
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: And once again that might be the Cardinal's competitive advantage

741
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: at the edge spot this year is that you have

742
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: so many different body types and pass rushing styles you

743
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: can throw at a tackle, whether it's a Marcus Golden

744
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: versus or Victor dimu Cage who's been liking to an

745
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: Elvis Duomerville versus Van Kahannar, the wily veteran who's got

746
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: almost a decade in this league. Nobody is like Dennis

747
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: Gardek the pit Bowl. My j Sanders is long and

748
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: lean with good explosions, similar you know, to a Chandler Jones. Look,

749
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm not quoting him to Chandler Jones as a player,

750
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: not at all, not yet. But then a Cameron Thomas

751
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: who's more of a power guy, and then Greed. We've

752
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: also seen Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins off the edge

753
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: at times. There are definitely packages in Vance Joseph's playbook

754
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: where you see those two former first round picks position

755
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: off the edge getting after the quarterbacks. So there's a

756
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: lot of possibilities and I think, once again that's the

757
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals competitive advantage. Do they have the big name Pro

758
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: Bowl pass rusher, No, but they have enough to give

759
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: an offensive line a lot to think about every Sunday

760
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: as to what exactly is coming snap to snap. You

761
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: bring up the two inside linebackers. I don't know how

762
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: much we'll see Isaiah Simmons play naturally an inside linebacker position,

763
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: but Simmons Hollins, they're making the team. Then you look

764
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: at the others. Nick Vigils making this team. He is

765
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: your Jordan Hicks for this year. As far as being

766
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: that veteran presence, and then Tanner Vallejo, Joe Walker, as

767
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: Zekiel Turner, guys that have made their mark on special

768
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: teams and Zeke certainly would like to play more defense.

769
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: How many inside linebackers does this team keep when you

770
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: have more need as far as ed rusher and perhaps

771
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: more of a need in the secondary. Do you have

772
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: the numbers on Tanner Vallejo because he got a brief

773
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: appearance in Tennessee, and man, we immediately called his number.

774
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: You just see the smarts, the instincts, the intellect from

775
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: a Tanner of Vallejo when he gets playing time, he

776
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: is so productive. We saw him two years ago at

777
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: the end of the two twenty season where he came

778
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: in and the lurch at the Rams and he had

779
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: like a dozen tackles in three quarters. So I was

780
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: curious what he ended up with because I know we

781
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: called his name at least twice and he couldn't have

782
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: had very many snaps against the Titans two tackles, one

783
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: tackle for loss and Vallejo played just twelve snaps. There

784
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: you go. So he's on this team in terms of

785
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: you know where it's gonna Joe Walker's on the outside

786
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: looking in. That's just the way his career is gone,

787
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's the way it's gonna continue. Ben

788
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: Neeman flash. But it was in the second half of

789
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: preseason games. So once again, now, are you including Isaiah

790
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: Simmons in this linebacker room? I am, even though he's

791
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: the starbacker and he can fit in a number of

792
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: different rooms. But yes, monks inside linebackers until until the

793
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: roster says otherwise. He's still listed at linebacker. So that's six.

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00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: That's six of your including because Zeke Turner is making

795
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: this team. He is making this team. They are very

796
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: bullish on the camp he had, and I think he's

797
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: sort of a sleeper to get more regular season reps

798
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: than everyone's anticipating, especially if Zavian Collins is still in

799
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: learning mode and hasn't quite earned the trust of Vance

800
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: Joseph yet to be on the field down on a

801
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: down by down basis, I think Zeke Turner is a

802
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: sleeper to get more snaps than we think. So, yeah,

803
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: there's a Joe Walker, a Chandler Wooten, these guys in

804
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: the outside looking in. Chandler Wouten. For all the numbers

805
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: he put up in the last two games of the preseason.

806
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: He's a guy you're going to get to the practice

807
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: squad as well. Not a great ringing endorsements from the

808
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: head coach Saturday Nights on Zaven Collins. When you guys

809
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: asked him postgame about the progress quote, it will be

810
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: a work in progress just going into his second year,

811
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: but he's gotten better and better than he added. The

812
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: read and react is for where I've seen the biggest

813
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: improvement end quote, And that's what's needed. Is the reading

814
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: react is. You know, if you could take the instincts

815
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: in the experience of a Chandler Wootten, for example, a

816
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: three year starter in the SEC at Auburn and a

817
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: team captain, and put it into the body and measurables

818
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: and athletic traits of his Zaman Collins, you would have

819
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: an all Pro linebacker. So Zamon Collins still us to

820
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: develop those instincts. The reading react plane fast, the ability

821
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: to shed blocks, use his hands not his shoulder, don't

822
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: get tied up by offensive linemen. Those are all things

823
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: that he's continuing to work with. So here's the thing.

824
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: Andy Reid would be most likely to do exactly what

825
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan did in Week one, twenty twenty when they

826
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: saw Isaiah Simmons out there as a raw rookie at

827
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Speaker 1: inside linebacker, and what did they do? Here comes the

828
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: wheel route out of the backfield. It was either raheemostered

829
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: or Jeff Wilson. I forget who it was. And eighty

830
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: yards later gone for the Niners first touchdown to the game.

831
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: Because they put that running back that speeds dround Isaiah Simmons.

832
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: There was a slight hesitation and it was too late.

833
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: He got bed Isaiah Simmons. Jimmy ge hit him, and

834
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: there you go. The Niners had the league. Now, the

835
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals came back and won that game beyond like fourteen

836
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: hundred catches from DeAndre Hopkins. But I'll never forget that

837
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: game for three reasons. One the way it started. Two

838
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: there was nobody in the stadium of Levi's. And three

839
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: it was also the NorCal fires. You couldn't see beyond

840
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: the upper deck as planes were landing at was an

841
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: international when you just watched twenty five on the football

842
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: field and trying to figure out what's he doing? Because

843
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: big picture, it's it's hard to pinpoint individuals on defense

844
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: when you're watching the game live, But if you go

845
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: back and watch the broadcast, because you brought it up

846
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: leading with his shoulder, and what do you say, last

847
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: year he got hurt against the Browns, hurt his shoulder,

848
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: and then reinjured it again against the Packers midway through

849
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: the season. But he leans with the shoulder, and he

850
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: I'll say this Saturday night, he led with the shoulder

851
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: and knocked the offensive lineman on his heels in order

852
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: to make the tackle. But how many times can you

853
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: get away with leaning with the shoulder if already we

854
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: saw it last year, you hurt the shoulder and you

855
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: weren't able to see the football field. And that's a

856
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: backup offensive lineman, then he dominated. Is he going to

857
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 1: be able to do that with a starting offensive lineman

858
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: who's going to play during the regular season? Most likely not.

859
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: And that's part of the process because when he played,

860
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: he played at a high school it was such a

861
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: small population in rural Oklahoma. He was so dominant for

862
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: his size he would literally just run through kids. And

863
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: then he got to college and he didn't have a

864
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: bunch of big time offers. He went to Tulsa and

865
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: then in that conference, on that roster he's able to

866
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: so dominant physically, he's able to run through guys and

867
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: get to the ball carry. You can't do that in

868
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: the NFL. You have to be able to extend your arms,

869
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: shed the blocker, keep them off you, and so that

870
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: is part of the process. But to come full circle

871
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: in my thoughts, if he's on the field Week one

872
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: against Andy Reina Patrick Mahomes, there's no doubt they're gonna

873
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: target twenty five and they're going to test him. So

874
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: for that reason, I think we're all curious how many

875
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: regular season reps is Avan Collins truly going to get

876
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: to start this season. All right, let's move to the

877
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: third level of defense in that secondary, looking at the

878
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: cornerback position. This is a position that's certainly we think,

879
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: in fact we've been talking about, needs to be addressed

880
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: and probably addressed yesterday, but it is coming. Byron Murphrey,

881
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, Antonio Hamilton, question mark with what's going on

882
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: with Antonio Hamilton, Christian Matthew the draft pick you got,

883
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: Josh Jackson, the former second round pick, Ja's Whittaker, who

884
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: manages to make this team or at least be viable

885
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: as a practice squad player. But that's just not enough

886
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: for me going into Week one facing the Kansas City Chiefs.

887
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: So let's start with the unknown before we get to

888
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: the known. The unknown, the big question mark underline it

889
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: is Antonio Hamilton. What happened? What's going on? What is

890
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: the near future? Based on the head coach and just

891
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: what we know in terms of the body language and

892
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: how he's answering the questions, I'm not counting on Antonio

893
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: Hamilton against Kansas City. He told you, Andrew Stanton, when

894
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: you were asked about a postgame quote unexpected situation. Yes,

895
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: So that portends and forecasts a longer type deal than

896
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: I think we anticipated, because if it was going to

897
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: be more of a short term, I think he'd worked

898
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: that into the answer. Not unlike a Colt McCoy who's

899
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: expected back, not unlike a Jonathan Ward. It's called mine.

900
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: You know, he'll give you a little hind or a

901
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: tip that it's it's minor or it's major, and this one,

902
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: I think the absence of information indicates it's more major

903
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: than anything. So if you're going forward without Antonio Hamilton,

904
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: which is a dire situation because you're already thin and

905
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: he had just become CB two. Then your starters obviously

906
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: are Byron Murphy. You don't have the luxury right now

907
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: putting Bayern Murphy inside. He's gonna have to be outside.

908
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: And then Marco Wilson, who gave up a couple of

909
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: catches to start the game in Tennessee against including one

910
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: big grab against Robert Woods, so that wasn't exactly confidence building.

911
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: And then behind him at Josh Jackson, a Christian Matthew.

912
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: Christian Matthews really raw as he's shown up as a

913
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: seventh round rookie out of val Dawsta. Maybe exceeded expectations absolutely,

914
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: but you're gonna let him go out there against a

915
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in week one? I think not. So with

916
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: that in mind, this is where a bold move has

917
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: to be made. And can you is a realistic to

918
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: think you could trade someone at the back end in

919
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: a position room that's loaded like an Eno Benjamin and

920
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: Randy Isabella and get something of value in return When

921
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: it comes to cornerback, one of the most coveted positions

922
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL and the most difficult to find. I

923
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: think not. And this is where my hot take comes in.

924
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: Are you forced to trade a player of value to

925
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: get a corner? Are you forced to trade? Oh? I

926
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know. With the emergence of a Greg Dortch and

927
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: in Annie Isabella is Rondell more expendable. That is the

928
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 1: definition of hot take ladies and gentlemen. And then let's

929
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: take the number four and let's double that. You are

930
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: have a lot more talent in the outside linebacker room

931
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: than you first thought. Marcus Golden is thirty one. How

932
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: much money does he want? Have you reached an impass?

933
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: Didn't he tweet something out today? You got to stand

934
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: for something or you'll exist for nothing. There was some

935
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: sort of cryptic tweet that he sent out the day

936
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: of this recording degree and he hadn't sent anything out

937
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: since August first, where he also made it known that

938
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: he thought he was underpaid and undervalued. Here is the

939
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: exact direct tweet from Marcus Golden, who hasn't tweeted from

940
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: his own account since August first, which is also the

941
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: last day he practiced. If you don't stand for something,

942
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: you'll fall for anything. Three exclamation points. Now read into

943
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: that what you want, But yes, okay, I will thank

944
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: you for asking. Maybe one last final offer was made

945
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: by the Cardinals, who reportedly are seventeen eighteen million under

946
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: the cap, but really feasibly they're about ten million under

947
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: the cap because teams usually keep about seven million or

948
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: so just for emergency situations over the course of a

949
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: regular season. So Marcus gold is he deserving him more? Absolutely,

950
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: he's being paid less this season than a Dennis Gardeck.

951
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: So yes, Marcus Golden, but how much does he want?

952
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: How much are the Cardinals willing to pay a thirty

953
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: one year old pass rusher? So for that reason, Craig,

954
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: is it really that radical to think you have a

955
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: serious need a corner and if you have to give

956
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: up something or someone of value, a name player, could

957
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: you also put Marcus Golden on the trade block and

958
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: see what you might fetch in return for a corner. Wow,

959
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 1: had not even considered that a possible bill. But that's why, Paul,

960
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: you bring the hot takes, because you're able to think

961
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: outside the box for the betterment of the Arizona Cardinals. Well,

962
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: when you have three plus hours on a team playing

963
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: on the way home, maybe it's too much time to think,

964
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: and maybe you're dangerous to yourself and the listeners to

965
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: find listeners here a cover too. But I'm just throwing

966
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: that out, thinking out loud literally as to what I

967
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: was considering on the way home from Nashville, because you

968
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: have to figure out the cornerback position, and that was reinforced,

969
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: wasn't not by what Cliff Kingsbury said after the game

970
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: in our postgame interview, something that they needed to go

971
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: outside and look for I'm paraphrasing, but yeah, the head

972
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: coach did that bit of knowledge on the broadcast on Saturday.

973
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: Last position group. And this is nothing against Matt Prator,

974
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: Andy Lee, Aaron Brewer, but you're three special teams guys,

975
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: they're they're fine. We saw a Praydor kick, yep. We

976
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: saw Andy Lee boot the ball in Tennessee. I've got

977
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: no issues with any of those three. But the safety position.

978
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: Is this a room where maybe you go a little

979
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: bit lighter and you're counting on Buddha Baker and Jalen

980
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: Thompson do continuously be available, meaning they're playing every single

981
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: game on the field for Darnier, every single snap. But

982
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: Charles Washington, James Wiggins, a couple of special teams players.

983
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: Maybe you go with three or four. Maybe it's a

984
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: little bit lighter of a room, just based off of

985
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: Buddha and Jat being on the field as much as

986
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: they are. I'd love to know the chest injury situation

987
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: with Charles Washington. That is an unknown and he is

988
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: a very valuable guy on special teams, and based on

989
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: what we saw in this preseason, he's definitely a better

990
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: tackler in the open field than a James Wiggins or

991
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson. I would not be surprised if those two

992
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: young guys are in trouble. I just it once again,

993
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna save a spot, just like defensive line,

994
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: I think safety could be the area you save a spot.

995
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: You have that reliability knock on wood of a Jalen

996
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: Thompson who played the most snaps of any Cardinals defender

997
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: a year ago, a Buddha pager and All Pro safety.

998
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: Those two guys ain't coming off the field, okay, So

999
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: that Isaiah Simmons is considered a safety. So with that

1000
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 1: in mind, James Wiggins, he had a couple of moments

1001
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: against Tennessee, had a big hit, you know, he had

1002
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: the interception of off the deflection, but he also had

1003
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: a lot of mistackles in those three games, and now

1004
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't think Deontay Thompson did anything that screams he's

1005
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: got to be on this team. So depending on WHERELD.

1006
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: Charles Washington stands, once again, I think they I really

1007
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: do think they go lighter in the safety room because

1008
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: they're loaded elsewhere. The only time I now noticed Deontay

1009
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,240
Speaker 1: Thompson during training camp is when Buddha Baker wasn't playing

1010
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: or Jalen Thompson wasn't playing. All of a sudden, Number

1011
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: twenty two was getting some reps with the first team,

1012
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: and then and that's where it becomes, Hey, he's a

1013
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: great backup, but because of the availability and durability of

1014
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: the two starters, there's just not a lot of defensive

1015
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: reps for Deonte Thompson that goes okay. So if he's active,

1016
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: what's he doing on special teams? Hey, I'm not sure

1017
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: that those two guys weren't outplayed by Tay Daily, the

1018
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie out of Virginia Tech who who had that

1019
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: pick six against Malik Willis in the joint practice. He

1020
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: housed that and he's a popular guy. Guys mobbed him.

1021
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: His tackling was pretty good. He's got some pretty good size.

1022
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: He's nearly six foot to over two hundred pounds. Honestly,

1023
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that forty eight didn't go out there

1024
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: and outplay thirty eight or twenty two. Tay Dailey did

1025
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: get shaken up at that last play of the team,

1026
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: and I believe it was Darren Urban who noticed that

1027
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: he was had his arm in a sling those games.

1028
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: So just you know, and when we're talking about injuries,

1029
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: that's one of those toy daily. If you like what

1030
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: he can do, then all of a sudden, maybe it's

1031
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: one of those development type of players, because youth is

1032
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: always served in the National Football League, just like offensive line.

1033
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: If there's a veteran safety who's released, who's among those

1034
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 1: final cuts and is out on the street and is

1035
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: sitting there on waivers, I would not be surprised if

1036
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: the Cardinals go after a veteran backup safety off the street.

1037
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: Well done, Paul. I think we went through every single position.

1038
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: Now the question is just how accurate are we when

1039
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: we kind of go position by a position and trying

1040
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: to figure out the best fifty Because if you had

1041
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: the three specialists, that makes it fifty three, but the

1042
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: best fifty is at twenty five offense twenty five defense.

1043
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: You go heavier on offense because of the nature of

1044
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback and the head coach, and you want to

1045
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: be able to put points on the board. I'm really

1046
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: interested to see what this team is going to look like.

1047
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: Maybe not this week, next week, game week, when you

1048
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: kind of get through the first wave of cuts, anyone

1049
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: get claimed to your point about trades, is a player acquired.

1050
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of moving parts. Even after Tuesday's

1051
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: one pm deadline. What's the stat that the Cardinals has

1052
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: spent the second most money in the NFL on their offense, correct,

1053
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: that's correct, top three at least, and their bottom three

1054
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: in spending on the defense. So when the final fifty

1055
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: three comes out, if it's weighted towards the offense, as

1056
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: you mentioned, then it makes sense because that's where the

1057
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: expenditures are, that's where the financial investment is currently constructed.

1058
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: So I would not be surprised by any of that.

1059
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: And look, when you look at the Cardinals defense, my

1060
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: last thought would be, because I know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of concern right there's a lot of the Red Sea's

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Speaker 1: gripping out there about the Cardinals defense. And we've seen

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Speaker 1: like DVOA where the Cardinals were top six a year

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Speaker 1: ago and the final standings of DVOA and now they're

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Speaker 1: like forecasted to be twenty eighth or something like that.

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Speaker 1: There's the expectations are dire for the Cardinals defense. If

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Speaker 1: you're reading national media, I'll say this, I think the

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Speaker 1: starters on this defense can ball. The starters can keep

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Speaker 1: this team a playoff caliber team. They start having injuries

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Speaker 1: to the defense, the depth is thin and that would

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Speaker 1: be problematic. But if you're telling me, you roll out

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Speaker 1: there with ninety nine to ninety four JJ Watt and

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen, and both those guys have looked really good

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Speaker 1: so far in camp. You have your collection of edge rushers.

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Speaker 1: Guardeck oh Man. Was he given the Titans offensive line

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Speaker 1: issues in camp? You know, if Marcus Golden's back in

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Speaker 1: the fold, and then you have to the best safety

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Speaker 1: pair you think in the NFL and at least Byron

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Speaker 1: Murphy to Marco Wilson. Okay, all right, you know you're

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Speaker 1: viable there. You think they were able to look Marco

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Speaker 1: Wilson came out a year ago and as Wolf said,

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Speaker 1: he was getting attention as a possible Rookie the Year

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Speaker 1: candidate ten twelve games into the season, and then it

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Speaker 1: just fell off from there, whether it was rookie Wall otherwise,

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Speaker 1: whether he's been yet to recover from whatever it was

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Speaker 1: illen and ailing him in the end of last season.

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Speaker 1: But once again, I think the starters on defense, it's

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Speaker 1: realistic to think you could be a division champion. You

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Speaker 1: start having injuries, lookout and if it's injuries at a

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Speaker 1: specific position where they get banged up more so, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's a revolving door at

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Speaker 1: cornerback or defensive line edge rusher. You don't want it

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Speaker 1: to happen, but you got to be aware of it.

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Speaker 1: But I like your point the starters, you're top eleven,

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Speaker 1: I like on defense. Now you go beyond that, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, that's where issues might pop up.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're not like the Rams. You don't have

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Speaker 1: three future Hall of famers at each level and Aaron

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00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: Donald and Bobby Wagner and Jalen Ramsey. But once again,

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Speaker 1: look at the rest of that Rams secondary. For example,

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Speaker 1: they lost Darius Williams. They got a lot of nothing

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Speaker 1: in that secondary beyond Jalen Ramsey and I get it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the top fifty or the top forty of

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Speaker 1: the NFL one hundred players list. I think the Niners

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Speaker 1: have five players. Believe that's correct, Yes, right, the George

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Speaker 1: Kittles of the world in the Deebo Samuels, I get it.

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Speaker 1: And Nick Bosa okay, and Trent Williams right, all legit.

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Speaker 1: But if you don't have that quarterback, where exactly is

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Speaker 1: it realistic? Where's your top end in terms of being

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Speaker 1: able to a win loss record this year? There? And

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Speaker 1: then we all know that the Seahawks the last place Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: you know, tank not a tank when you name Geno

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Speaker 1: Smith is your starting quarterback? By the way, Paul, before

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Speaker 1: we close up shop here on Cardinals cover two, I

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Speaker 1: need to say congratulations first and foremost here on this Monday,

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Speaker 1: you survived Nashville. I feel like I made the fifty

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Speaker 1: three honestly because you know, there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: those people in the Cardinals travel party, and people know

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Speaker 1: who they are that may or may not have been

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Speaker 1: in a karaoke bar, and then may or may not

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Speaker 1: have lived to have told about it. At least you know,

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Speaker 1: may or may not be at work on this Monday

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Speaker 1: after the nash Vegas trip. So um, you know you

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Speaker 1: need two hands to count all those who didn't survive.

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Speaker 1: Greet yours truly, you know, Paulie preseason, no Moss. I'm

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Speaker 1: right here. I'm ready to go reg season around the corner,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thankful that the right choices were made during

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Speaker 1: the week in Nashville. I'm just going to leave it

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Speaker 1: right there. Well, let's bring it full circle. The right

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Speaker 1: decisions made, because decisions is the word of the day

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Speaker 1: here on this Monday, and like Sesame Street, we're brought

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Speaker 1: to you by the word decisions today. Yes, and on

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Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Monday, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive

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Speaker 1: producer Jim Almandro. For Paul Calvici, I'm Craig Riel Loup.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.