Speaker 1: I watched all those stupid with some of them. Someone has,
Speaker 1: you know, nine for nine. I honestly used to watch
Speaker 1: a minute and a half and go, okay, I'm done,
Speaker 1: and then just and then put the phone down. So
Speaker 1: obviously never watched some of them because it's like, I
Speaker 1: can't look at a seven minutes How can you watch
Speaker 1: him purpose seven minutes for crying out that what a
Speaker 1: waste of space? Yeah, what a waste of my life?
Speaker 1: You know? Crush done? Where is easy? He's late? Put
Speaker 1: another log? Five? Nobody here is good time. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the fire pit with Matt Chenella. Good to be back.
Speaker 1: Hope you and your family had a safe and healthy holiday.
Speaker 1: This particular fire pit's coming in a little hot sir. Next,
Speaker 1: follow off the top given Sam Riggs Bazoian shit about
Speaker 1: a shortcam to which it just brings more energy and
Speaker 1: eyeballs to the conveyor Belta content coming from Barstool Riggs
Speaker 1: his social and digital channels all a vertical under the
Speaker 1: umbrella of Barstool Sports. I met Riggs Abandoned Dunes last year.
Speaker 1: He was a guest of a buddy on my annual
Speaker 1: Buddies trip, the Uncle Tony Invitational. He was a blast
Speaker 1: to say. What you see is what you get isn't
Speaker 1: exactly accurate. What you see is about half of what
Speaker 1: you get. But as he says, it comes from a
Speaker 1: great place. He's got a big heart, healthy and infectious
Speaker 1: attitude with just the right amount of reverence for history, integrity, loyalty,
Speaker 1: and tradition. That's not to say he won't pass out
Speaker 1: on the putting green, but in the end, no harm,
Speaker 1: no foul, and don't look now, he's a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: You've got a problem with that, and you're probably not
Speaker 1: sitting at this pit anyway. Today you're gonna learn a
Speaker 1: lot more about Riggs's thirty three from St. Charles, Missouri.
Speaker 1: We took up the game of golf as a kid.
Speaker 1: My dad got me into it, and we really didn't
Speaker 1: even blame uch golf. We would just go to the
Speaker 1: driving room. Remember that, I love the putting green and
Speaker 1: I liked hitting balls a little bit, and we we
Speaker 1: didn't really play a ton of golf, and we did
Speaker 1: all kinds of sports. I mean, hockey was my big sport,
Speaker 1: but my dad my parents always pushed playing a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything. So golf is kind of just like
Speaker 1: one of the sports that I played. Reegs found enough
Speaker 1: success in both the books and on the ice to
Speaker 1: play hockey at Harvard. So yeah, I mean I was
Speaker 1: on at one point. I think I was a B
Speaker 1: list Central Scouting, which meant, you know that I would
Speaker 1: probably be a top three, you know, three or four
Speaker 1: rounder in the NHL draft. And then I just when
Speaker 1: I went to college, I didn't have the like comprehensive
Speaker 1: drive that you have to have like I didn't. I
Speaker 1: would show up on the ice and I'm fiercely competitive
Speaker 1: and I was skilled, but like everyone else that, you know,
Speaker 1: the guys that made it were eating right, They're cooking
Speaker 1: kind of grilling their own chickens that they wouldn't eat
Speaker 1: like the wrong stuff. They're working out NonStop, they're stretching
Speaker 1: off ice. I didn't have any I just wanted to
Speaker 1: go drink and I out with my buddies and play
Speaker 1: fucking golf. That's pretty much what I wanted to do.
Speaker 1: So uh so that was kind of when I realized,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to play in the NHL.
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of more of a of a you know,
Speaker 1: hand guy, and golf was a lot more suitable for that.
Speaker 1: So I sort of phased out a hockey and into
Speaker 1: into more golf. What Riggs lacked in passion and perseverance
Speaker 1: on the ice, he put into getting a gig at
Speaker 1: Barstool Sports, which at the time was an emerging movement
Speaker 1: hitched to the trailer of Dave Portnoy and his relentless
Speaker 1: onslaught of pop culture commentary and content. Riggs wrote and
Speaker 1: pitched blogs, articles, and opinions to Portnoy. No shock, Riggs
Speaker 1: warmed down. I actually got brought onto write about politics,
Speaker 1: um because it was like Trump was becoming a thing.
Speaker 1: Barstool wasn't covering politics because Dave was like, we just
Speaker 1: like to make people laugh. Why would we get polarizing,
Speaker 1: Why would we create this polarizing type content. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'll do it in a way that that is not
Speaker 1: taking side, not polarizing. I'm just laughing and poking fun
Speaker 1: at what the hell was going on in politics. Once
Speaker 1: in the door, Riggs pitched Portnoy on a golf blog
Speaker 1: and eventually a podcast, which he launched with his friend
Speaker 1: Trent and Ryan in the two thousand seventeen Waste Management
Speaker 1: Phoenix open on February one, two thousand seventeen. Riggs wrote
Speaker 1: quote just over twenty four hours after its announcement and
Speaker 1: twelve hours after the first episode went live. Four Play
Speaker 1: is the number one sports podcast in the universe and
Speaker 1: number six overall. Riggs and Trent filled a need to
Speaker 1: not only test the narrow fairways of the sport, but
Speaker 1: also the pack of reporters and writers who covered I
Speaker 1: think Jeff Chagofridge a great example. I think if people
Speaker 1: were are ever on the fence or they have a
Speaker 1: certain sort of thought of like who we are and
Speaker 1: what we do, and it's it's the wrong thought that
Speaker 1: like I would point him towards. I think it was
Speaker 1: in January we had Jeff Shagraford on the show, and
Speaker 1: I think that they would they would listen to that show,
Speaker 1: that podcast and go, holy ship, like, Okay, these guys,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not afraid, we're gonna We're happy to
Speaker 1: to talk it out with. We believe we come from
Speaker 1: the right place. In that place is we fucking love
Speaker 1: golf and we love to have fun there. It is
Speaker 1: again a love for golf and fun. Go figure that
Speaker 1: and the ongoing struggle to get better. And I think
Speaker 1: one of our greatest assets is that we all pretty
Speaker 1: much stock to golf. I think the pad's people people
Speaker 1: try to chirp us all the time, and I think
Speaker 1: that in the in the golf industry, there is an
Speaker 1: element of like protecting the belief that you're a you're
Speaker 1: a stick, that you're a player, because otherwise folks think
Speaker 1: you lose your credibility. And our take on it is
Speaker 1: bro go look at the handicaps like a dispersion, like
Speaker 1: of people fucking sucking golf, so like they love it
Speaker 1: and they suck at it, and that it might be
Speaker 1: there trying to break a hundred and try to break
Speaker 1: ninety and like they're hitting awful shots and I'll post
Speaker 1: a scorecard where I'll go, you know, double double bogey,
Speaker 1: triple birdie, birdie. If people are like that's my guy,
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, like let's go. The story we tell today
Speaker 1: is that of Riggs escaping New York City to quarantine
Speaker 1: at the pine Hurst Resort in North Carolina. He stayed there,
Speaker 1: playing an assortment of pine Hurst ten courses and others
Speaker 1: in the area for nine nine days. Riggs literally rocked
Speaker 1: the creadle of American golf for more than three months straight,
Speaker 1: and in doing so, forged a friendship with Tom Pashiley,
Speaker 1: president of pine Hurst, and he just loves golf. I
Speaker 1: mean I could see going to a play. I mean,
Speaker 1: he came out and played every day. It just was NonStop.
Speaker 1: And you have to love the game to come out
Speaker 1: and play it as much as he did. And he
Speaker 1: shared it with other people, and so he is a
Speaker 1: the number one fan of the game right now, and
Speaker 1: he's sharing it with a very wide audience. And I
Speaker 1: think I think we should, as we did, find ways
Speaker 1: to to support what he's doing and get behind it.
Speaker 1: Going back to the beginning, it was March sixteen when
Speaker 1: Riggs sent pastially a text quote, all Right, I believe
Speaker 1: I'm fleeing New York City for Pinehurst and just winging it.
Speaker 1: I'd rather be shut down there than here. I'd forgotten
Speaker 1: that that that that is, I mean, that's pretty much
Speaker 1: exactly how this whole Days thing came to be. It
Speaker 1: was it was just I saw the writing on the wall.
Speaker 1: Things were getting bad New York City. You know, now
Speaker 1: we've kind of New York's been through it. Everybody was
Speaker 1: aware of it that New York was the epicenter for
Speaker 1: at the time, it was a couple of hundred cases.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't it wasn't too crazy, but people were
Speaker 1: worried that it was going to me. And I simply said,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be caged in my
Speaker 1: shoe box apartment in Manhattan. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to be somewhere where I could do stuff, where I
Speaker 1: could be out and about, um, where I could be
Speaker 1: on a golf course, where I could film stuff, where
Speaker 1: I can kind of not be stuck in my Manhattan apartment.
Speaker 1: It was like, all right, we're in you know, we'll
Speaker 1: figure it out. Let's go. The part of that texted
Speaker 1: I cut out what I sent it to you was
Speaker 1: my reply, which was l it was a phenomenon and
Speaker 1: and you you kind of knew it while it was happening.
Speaker 1: You're like, this is probably never gonna happen again. We
Speaker 1: hope it never happens in our lifetime that someone has
Speaker 1: to stay here for ninety nine days. I've not seen it,
Speaker 1: and you know, everyone's quarantine. I've not seen anybody else
Speaker 1: who documented their quarantine for three months. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that that was you know, who knew that innocent enough
Speaker 1: text message would lead to a lifetime of memories. We'll
Speaker 1: get the essence of most of those memories, and we
Speaker 1: have more than ten voices to help us do it.
Speaker 1: But for now, it's March eight, also known as Day
Speaker 1: one of Yeah, I flew. I bought a flight. I
Speaker 1: think my flight was sixty two bucks at the time,
Speaker 1: and I just got a flight from New York to
Speaker 1: uh TO to Raleigh and then just take an uber
Speaker 1: which was fifty or sixty bucks wherever it is from
Speaker 1: Raleigh from r d A to uh Piners. And I
Speaker 1: didn't even know if I had I didn't know what
Speaker 1: my situation was because, like you know, Hash is the
Speaker 1: president of a massive, iconic, prestigious resort, and he's going
Speaker 1: through the fact that the whole world shutting down, including
Speaker 1: his resort, so I don't want to be bothered. Him
Speaker 1: was like, hey, do I have a hotel room? So
Speaker 1: I just I had said that text and and and
Speaker 1: I you know, he had said a couple of things back,
Speaker 1: but there was no real confirmation and I didn't need it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I would go down and book a
Speaker 1: room at to Carolina and I figured it out for
Speaker 1: a few days and we'll just see what happens. Well,
Speaker 1: I get down there and I, you know, I go
Speaker 1: through all this. I finally just arrived at pine Hurst.
Speaker 1: You know, they pulled my uber pools right up in
Speaker 1: the in the little awning there and and they're barrying
Speaker 1: Kevin and the guys at the front door, who I
Speaker 1: didn't really know at the time. They were just kind
Speaker 1: of you know, the guys that welcome you and say
Speaker 1: welcome to Pinehurst, welcome home. And uh, and I hopped out,
Speaker 1: just went to the front desk. Yeah, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if you you have me in the system
Speaker 1: or not. But but you know, my Sambazoian or maybe
Speaker 1: rigs that I'll be under and uh, I'd love to
Speaker 1: just book a room if you don't have me in there.
Speaker 1: And they're like, no problem, you know, Mr Brazoian, like, um,
Speaker 1: police follow us this way, and of course pass should
Speaker 1: put me in the fucking presidential suite at at the
Speaker 1: Carolina Hotel. You know, that's part of the beauty of
Speaker 1: being in the hospitality business. We can do things like
Speaker 1: that that are unexpected, a total surprise. You're right. We
Speaker 1: we had plenty of room and and so why not
Speaker 1: why not go over the top and show him some
Speaker 1: world class Piners Hospitality, and he stayed in that Presidential
Speaker 1: suite I think for the first week that he was here,
Speaker 1: and then we ended up closing the Carolina Hotel. He
Speaker 1: was probably the saddest person when that when that decision
Speaker 1: was made, because it meant he had to get out
Speaker 1: of the Presidential Suite and fend for himself, which he did,
Speaker 1: which he did through a variety of properties while we
Speaker 1: were closed. So let's see, I started at the Carolina
Speaker 1: Hotel at the Presidential suite. Couple three weeks later, maybe
Speaker 1: I moved to um a home about, you know, a
Speaker 1: block away from the Carolina Hotel. Then a few weeks
Speaker 1: after that, I moved to another home down on Donald
Speaker 1: Ross Drive, So that was three. Then four was this
Speaker 1: other little home we stayed at for a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks with a pool. And then five was a condo
Speaker 1: across from the seventeenth Green on course number five, so
Speaker 1: right across the main road there. And then six I
Speaker 1: was back in the Carolina Hotel and I stayed there
Speaker 1: for about a month. Yet, so I believe I stayed
Speaker 1: in six different places while I was there. What Riggs
Speaker 1: does is deliver. What he delivers is social and digital
Speaker 1: experiences relating to golf. If he sees it, likes it,
Speaker 1: he does it and post it. His content is like
Speaker 1: the weathern Ireland. If you don't like what you're getting,
Speaker 1: wait ten minutes, something else is coming. And at Pioneers
Speaker 1: he had the run of the place. I'd love to
Speaker 1: hear about how it started, the Daily nine and how
Speaker 1: that began. And I remember I didn't know if it
Speaker 1: was gonna stick or not, but he's stuck with it,
Speaker 1: and you're right, you just whether he was trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, hit just land of all on a grain
Speaker 1: or land of all in a bunker, the interactions that
Speaker 1: he was having with Nick Faldo became, you know, fodder
Speaker 1: for everything, and just there were so many layers. It
Speaker 1: was a multi layer cake that that you got to
Speaker 1: devour every night when you got home to see where
Speaker 1: where did the Daily nine take place? Today? Riggs provides
Speaker 1: more background on the Daily Nine, in which Reggs tried
Speaker 1: to successfully hit nine puts or chips each day from
Speaker 1: a different spot, playing a variety of shots. I mean,
Speaker 1: I knew quarantine was going to be a thing for everybody, right,
Speaker 1: So I was like, if what's like a relatable thing
Speaker 1: people were working on their games. Something simple, they're putting,
Speaker 1: And that's pretty much where it started. Was like I
Speaker 1: was just putting in a mat in my apartment because
Speaker 1: that was the only thing I could do. And um,
Speaker 1: and so I just started cranking these videos and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, now that I'm pioneers, I can get
Speaker 1: a little bit more creative. I could chip, I could
Speaker 1: play a hole, I could really do whatever I wanted.
Speaker 1: But it was a way for me pretty much every
Speaker 1: single day to put out something like some sort of
Speaker 1: video golf content and um, and people loved it so
Speaker 1: like it got the engagement going, it got the chatter going.
Speaker 1: Nick Faldo was in their roast to me, um, Max
Speaker 1: Homa JT. Like these guys are all in their roast
Speaker 1: at me and chirping me, and that's good, Like that's
Speaker 1: good for business as long as you don't care like
Speaker 1: how you're actually playing, Like as long as you get
Speaker 1: over the fact that you're not that good. Like I know,
Speaker 1: I'm not that good. I don't make every potot hit,
Speaker 1: so clearly there's something wrong. So as long as you
Speaker 1: get over that as great. It's like people were engaged,
Speaker 1: people were reacting to it. Um, it's getting hundreds of
Speaker 1: thousands of yews a day. So I just started doing
Speaker 1: the dayly night every day, and I mean I still
Speaker 1: do it pretty much every day, has pastially pointed out
Speaker 1: earlier Sir Nick Faldo stumbled upon some of this stuff
Speaker 1: on his social feats, and he tries to explain the success.
Speaker 1: You know, life's life's a bitch, and then you sit
Speaker 1: there and watch ricks Puh. I mean, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what coop he was. I mean, I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's I think that's what it is when you're fitting
Speaker 1: down and feeling sorry for yourself and you think God,
Speaker 1: life is tough of you know, I'm avoiding COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: the stock markets crashed, the budgets, got hemorrhoids, and then
Speaker 1: you look at his stroke and you go, ah, not
Speaker 1: everything in life is really bad in my life. Although
Speaker 1: Riggs and his content, more specifically his putting stroke, aren't
Speaker 1: for everyone, he could care less. He's committed to his
Speaker 1: craft and his followers, and he was very content at
Speaker 1: the Carolina Hotel. He took the quarantine very seriously and
Speaker 1: and was distancing and I didn't see him. I don't
Speaker 1: think for the first two weeks of his stay. I
Speaker 1: just didn't want to get in his space because he
Speaker 1: really did want to maintain his distance. Um. But he
Speaker 1: early on left a note for the housekeeping staff. He
Speaker 1: left a note, wrote it on a piece of pay
Speaker 1: for like who, put it outside of his bedroom and
Speaker 1: the presidential suite. So someone came in the suite, got
Speaker 1: to the bedroom, there's a note that says, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, no need to offer services given everything that's
Speaker 1: going on, probably just not not required at this time.
Speaker 1: And within you know, thirty minutes of someone seeing that note,
Speaker 1: I get a picture of it, and everybody thinks he
Speaker 1: is quarantining in Pineers because he asked COVID. So he
Speaker 1: caused a slight little panic early on in his state
Speaker 1: because he was like, no, no, you stay away, and
Speaker 1: they thought it was because he was the one that
Speaker 1: was was infected, and anyhow it was. It was a
Speaker 1: very thoughtful note, but it went the wrong way quickly.
Speaker 1: That was probably the first and last time he did
Speaker 1: anything in days that went the wrong way, as you'll
Speaker 1: hear throughout this episode and the next. The reason why
Speaker 1: this is such a compelling narrative is because Riggs trip
Speaker 1: to Pineers was so much more than just made or
Speaker 1: miss putts. It was about the development of interpersonal relationships,
Speaker 1: trying to stay positive and productive through some trying times.
Speaker 1: I do think that's sort of me becoming one with
Speaker 1: the town, or ever you want to describe it. It
Speaker 1: got to that point where it was like, no, I
Speaker 1: am getting my coffee from from the same folks each morning,
Speaker 1: and I'm getting the same order for lunch, and and
Speaker 1: now it's beyond just what would you you know, what
Speaker 1: would you like for lunch? It's more like, how how
Speaker 1: was that round last night? Did you get out of
Speaker 1: the grad old again? I did, and they'd be like,
Speaker 1: I saw that that video. What's up with that twelve
Speaker 1: year old who smoked you in the golf court? You know.
Speaker 1: So it was like I started to build these relationships
Speaker 1: with people, which then made it you know, that then
Speaker 1: made it feel like I was at home. And it's
Speaker 1: probably a result of a desire for that, you know.
Speaker 1: I was probably a result of like I wanted there
Speaker 1: to be a home and and I didn't want to
Speaker 1: go to my actual home back in St. Louis or
Speaker 1: or you know, be with my parents. I was afraid
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring this disease to them, and they're older,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how that would handle it. So
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that guy. So I was
Speaker 1: kind of stuck a little bit. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go to New York, so so here I was, you know,
Speaker 1: stuck air quotes if you, if you will in in
Speaker 1: pine Hurst and try to make the best of it.
Speaker 1: And luckily I became pretty tight with those people, which
Speaker 1: I think everybody saw. Ten days into the trip, while
Speaker 1: Riggs was still going about his business, the resort was
Speaker 1: furloughing the majority of the staff. The pinners leadership had
Speaker 1: a plan to help their cause. We dreamed up the
Speaker 1: auction to try to do some good for all the
Speaker 1: hundreds of employees has had been impacted. And as we
Speaker 1: came up with these amazing Pinehurst experiences, were trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, well, how are we gonna promote this, how
Speaker 1: are we going to let people know about it? And
Speaker 1: none of us feel comfortable going on Instagram live and
Speaker 1: talking about things for an extended period of time, and
Speaker 1: so the light bulb went off. It was really hard,
Speaker 1: obviously on the people who were laid off, so he
Speaker 1: was trying to very hard come up with ideas like
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think we have a lot
Speaker 1: of really cool things at Pinehurst that without too much
Speaker 1: hard cost to us, we could offer up that I
Speaker 1: think people would really love. What do you what do
Speaker 1: you think about this rigs? You know, I was like,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea that Doring at Cottage
Speaker 1: is a really good example of like something that they
Speaker 1: you know, bought and renovated and restored, but they cherish it.
Speaker 1: They don't let just really anybody go rent it and
Speaker 1: stay there. It's it's to be protected and used, you know,
Speaker 1: strategically and when they really want it. And so there's like,
Speaker 1: you know, we can offer that up, and we just
Speaker 1: kind of started brainstorming and you know, patially kind of
Speaker 1: lead the entire thing, but um, but yes, it's like,
Speaker 1: would you offer up a couple of items and would
Speaker 1: you be willing to kind of bring the auction home
Speaker 1: do like the final home stretch, go on Instagram Live
Speaker 1: and see if we can push those numbers up. It's
Speaker 1: like absolutely so. Just even in kind of building out
Speaker 1: the idea for the fundraiser, you kind of I learned
Speaker 1: a lot about why they were doing it, where the
Speaker 1: money was going to go how you know, and why
Speaker 1: it was important and so yes, So we offered up
Speaker 1: three or four different things. I think that the option,
Speaker 1: the auction items that I put up, you know, um,
Speaker 1: a couple of spots of the Barcelol Classic match against
Speaker 1: me at Pineer's number four. I think they ended up
Speaker 1: totally over fifty grand just the items that that we
Speaker 1: put up, and then you know, they raised Pinehurst over
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars total. I think they were around
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand, and we started the Instagram Live. I
Speaker 1: spoke for thirty minutes straight like a psychopath, walking around
Speaker 1: the the pro shop at Pineers where they opened it
Speaker 1: up and and just kind of highlighted different things and
Speaker 1: spoke by myself. Ben Bridgers is Pinehers director of golf.
Speaker 1: It was a great moment for all of us because
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's what he does. You know,
Speaker 1: people listen to him and he's definitely an influencer. And
Speaker 1: for I think that was one of those things where
Speaker 1: we knew who he was as a person because he
Speaker 1: cares about people and he wanted to help us and
Speaker 1: our employees, and you know, he's obviously starting to have
Speaker 1: a you know, having a better time, and I think
Speaker 1: you just really got engaged to it. And uh so
Speaker 1: the members are tuning in and just locals are tuning in,
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was a lot of
Speaker 1: fun to watch. But you know, people came over to
Speaker 1: me for weeks after that that it might be the
Speaker 1: superintendent or it might be um, someone who doesn't even
Speaker 1: work at the resort but but who works in the
Speaker 1: village and lives in the village and stopped me and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I got I got a lot of guys
Speaker 1: on my staff who got laid off because of this,
Speaker 1: and like what you've been doing last week with with
Speaker 1: pastially and with Pineers like meant a lot to those people,
Speaker 1: you know. So it was like and to me it
Speaker 1: was nothing. It was like, yeah, I just go on
Speaker 1: Instagram live at a p M and and talk about Pineers.
Speaker 1: How hard could that be? But like, but to them
Speaker 1: it meant so much, you know, and I do think
Speaker 1: you're right, Mattie G. And that like that moment sort
Speaker 1: of took it from hey, I'm on like kind of
Speaker 1: a weird like pseudo vacation thing to like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: now like part of this team and this team is
Speaker 1: trying to get through this tough time, and and I
Speaker 1: was very much supplanted on that team, and I was
Speaker 1: I was there to help, and that kind of I guess,
Speaker 1: catapulted me into this relationship with more than just the
Speaker 1: golf courses in the golf resort, but like with the people,
Speaker 1: which which obviously culminated the other day. So the Riggs
Speaker 1: root system is starting to take hold. But how is
Speaker 1: he getting around town? Parksdale and and Bridgers got me
Speaker 1: a golf cart, right, So they were like, hey, you
Speaker 1: know our shuttle services shut down. We know you don't
Speaker 1: have a car down here. We'll give you you want
Speaker 1: to borrow one of our golf carts. And so I
Speaker 1: would legitimately got a golf cart from the main clubhouse
Speaker 1: where all their carts are. They gave me a charger,
Speaker 1: a golf cart charger. I drove it to the Carolina Hotel.
Speaker 1: Then my guys Kevin Barry, Ryan Charles, who run the
Speaker 1: entrance there in the front door the bell hops at
Speaker 1: the Carolina Hotel um would charge it and watch over
Speaker 1: it all night every night. And when I get up
Speaker 1: in the morning, I walk right out, Boom, there's my
Speaker 1: golf cart. Sitting right next to the Carolina Hotel hop
Speaker 1: in it go over to the golf court. One guy
Speaker 1: facilitating a lot of Riggs golf I tender right was
Speaker 1: David Golinsky, the first assistant golf professional. He made lifelong
Speaker 1: friends here. Um I consider him like a friend now.
Speaker 1: But it all started with one cradle match, one fifty
Speaker 1: cradle match at five back to Tom passhilely for some perspective.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Riggs and and Blinsky hit it off
Speaker 1: and they became kind of a regular Cradle afternoon. They
Speaker 1: had a regular game five thirty every afternoon on the Cradle.
Speaker 1: That crowd would get together and they would they would
Speaker 1: just kind of attract people as they went, so by
Speaker 1: the time they would leave the clubhouse, by the time
Speaker 1: they got to the first tee of the Cradle, there
Speaker 1: might be eight people in tow and it was actually
Speaker 1: kind of a cool scene. I think. I don't know
Speaker 1: that our people used to play that much golf, but
Speaker 1: when when they got the invitation from Riggs, they were
Speaker 1: always quick to say yes. The Cradle is the seven
Speaker 1: nine yard nine hole Part three course that was built
Speaker 1: by Gil Hanson, opened in two thousands seventeen, which was
Speaker 1: yet another modern enhancement to an otherwise storied resort. It's
Speaker 1: a fun factory, a memory maker, suitable to not only
Speaker 1: Riggs and his Shenanigans, but it works for everyone, which
Speaker 1: is why it's so popular. And at one point Riggs
Speaker 1: made a hold on one. Yeah, second hole at the Cradle,
Speaker 1: got my first ace. We played the Cradle. I mean
Speaker 1: I probably played the Cradle over a hundred times while
Speaker 1: I was there, and so it kind of became like, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm really gonna need to get an ace at some point.
Speaker 1: And you come close a lot. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: play the Cradle a good amount, like you're gonna come close,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit shots that that spin or catch up
Speaker 1: hill and go right by the hole, and everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: get excited. And and yeah, the second hole at the
Speaker 1: Cradle colonnade. It's called it's a beautiful kalonade in the
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse in the background. I think it was
Speaker 1: like eight yard seventy yards something like that. That day,
Speaker 1: Penn was in kind of the middle left little bowl
Speaker 1: and I hit a perfect fifty eight degree. It landed
Speaker 1: like eight ft behind it started spinning back towards the
Speaker 1: pin and we were like, go, go, go go, and
Speaker 1: then it looked like it stopped and then it fell
Speaker 1: in and everybody. Everybody went absolutely crazy. And that's to
Speaker 1: this day. It's the only ace I've ever had, and
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I think it's about as cool an
Speaker 1: ace as you can add. And back to passionately for
Speaker 1: his pert, I think he's played the Cradle more times
Speaker 1: than I have, and uh, I've I've had two aces
Speaker 1: on the seventh hole. So it's just from a statistical standpoint,
Speaker 1: it's probably a little disappointing to only have one on
Speaker 1: on the second hole. Um, but it's it's the icing
Speaker 1: on the cake for him to have been able to
Speaker 1: be at Pineers for so long, to have his first
Speaker 1: hole in one, to have it happen on the Cradle
Speaker 1: around other people, you know, to be able to celebrate
Speaker 1: it with other folks. Um, he really does. You know,
Speaker 1: his his his um, his style, and in his acceptance
Speaker 1: of the Cradle, of the amount of fund that he
Speaker 1: has while he's playing golf, the social aspect of the
Speaker 1: game that he's so good at celebrating is what the
Speaker 1: Cradle is all about. So it's only fitting that he
Speaker 1: would find a way to to eke out one ace
Speaker 1: on the cradle. In terms of these moments, these memories
Speaker 1: were just getting started. At this point, Riggs is getting
Speaker 1: in deep, not only with the culture and community, but
Speaker 1: specifically with Kolinsky and now Klinski's bride to be. That
Speaker 1: was sort of my my bridge into the community. Beyond
Speaker 1: Ashley was was Dave. And and from that moment on,
Speaker 1: you know, we started playing our fifty hour game, our
Speaker 1: long standing game on the cradle and um and now,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going to Dave's wedding and I was
Speaker 1: slotted to introduce him and his wife, him and his
Speaker 1: fiance Kayla, you know, literally at their wedding reception. So
Speaker 1: he and I became very very close. And he is
Speaker 1: a hilarious little guy. He's the best. Yeah, I get
Speaker 1: married on July team and him and his girlfriend are
Speaker 1: coming and he'll actually announce us at our wedding. You
Speaker 1: know how cool is that. Meanwhile, a man named Mike
Speaker 1: Myers of Cleveland, Ohio, had also decided to quarantine to
Speaker 1: pine Hurst. He brought his wife and four kids to
Speaker 1: their second home to get away from the big city
Speaker 1: and get closer to his parents. Were members at the
Speaker 1: Country Club of North Carolina. Mike's son, Eater, who's twelve,
Speaker 1: is an accomplished junior golfer. I didn't really uh follow
Speaker 1: the four playing crew, but um my two sons, the
Speaker 1: two older sons that I have, are really into it.
Speaker 1: And so you know, Pioneers is a small town, and
Speaker 1: so we saw Riggs bouncing around and everyone talking about it.
Speaker 1: And there was like a Sunday morning where I just
Speaker 1: reached out over Instagram and just said, hey, my sons
Speaker 1: would love more than anything to play with you. And
Speaker 1: and it was more also an invitation of just like
Speaker 1: do you want to play CCNC, because you know it's
Speaker 1: different and it's so it's kind of like, hey, if
Speaker 1: you would like to come play dog would we'd love
Speaker 1: to have you rounds on us and the boys love
Speaker 1: it and and then I just kind of threw in
Speaker 1: there by the way, my twelve year old, we'll take
Speaker 1: you down from whatever team you want to play. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we get you know, look, we get we
Speaker 1: get messages and challenges from people all the time. Better
Speaker 1: you know, I want to take you on, come play
Speaker 1: me in the magic. But when it kids twelve years
Speaker 1: old and m and it's like I'm twelve, you're thirty three.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat you in golf. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: that's a no break. Yeah, I have to do that.
Speaker 1: So it was kind of a It was as simple
Speaker 1: as the optics of like this little twelve year old
Speaker 1: child briefing is going to take on me at golf.
Speaker 1: When I say, Pete Myers is an accomplished junior golfer.
Speaker 1: I've wore over fifty locals tour events, and um, I'm
Speaker 1: just getting into some of the junior events at pine
Speaker 1: Hurst called the Red Wete and Blue Tournament and the
Speaker 1: Junior World Champion Himes. So one May one, forty five
Speaker 1: days into a ninety Pinehurst to Pelooza, it was game
Speaker 1: on Mike Myers on being a little overwhelmed on behalf
Speaker 1: of his son today. As we got to the driving
Speaker 1: range and we saw that Raleigh News cameras on the
Speaker 1: tripods and then Brendan Jones, Riggs producer with his camera,
Speaker 1: I started getting a little nervous. He needed a great
Speaker 1: first team ball, which obviously is the hardest shot of
Speaker 1: the day to get off t there Rags was standing
Speaker 1: about four feet from him, just kind of giving to
Speaker 1: the Tiger stare Um. So I was a little nervous there.
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't play real well in the first
Speaker 1: few holes, and so I was walking along with Brendan,
Speaker 1: the producer, and he would kind of lean over and say,
Speaker 1: we have eighty thousand people on right now, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, what did I get my kid into.
Speaker 1: As for the match, as Mike said, both players were
Speaker 1: a little off early. But Riggs Burtie the ninth to
Speaker 1: get to one down at the turn. So shout to
Speaker 1: Justin Thomas on um the front nine and he said,
Speaker 1: can you beat in twelve year old? And just Thomas
Speaker 1: replied and said a twelve year old, yes, the one
Speaker 1: you're playing, no, And that gave me a little confidence that,
Speaker 1: you know, I could really beat him. So it backfired
Speaker 1: on Riggs. He tried to reach out to Justin Thomas
Speaker 1: to get confidence and a push for himself and it
Speaker 1: ended up being a push for you. Yeah, So Riggs
Speaker 1: was texting Justin Thomas, were tweeting him. He was texting
Speaker 1: and was Riggs showing you the text messages? Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was showing me my dad and we still have a
Speaker 1: frame picture in our house in it of the text
Speaker 1: exchange between Riggs and Justin Thomas saying you can beat
Speaker 1: a twelve year old, just not this foot yeld. Yeah.
Speaker 1: On the eleventh hole, I have like probably six seven
Speaker 1: ft for birdie to get it to one down, and
Speaker 1: I burned the edge and it went all the way around,
Speaker 1: it didn't fall. And then on the twelve hole, I
Speaker 1: again I have like ten feet straight up the hill
Speaker 1: for Bertie Pizza and for par and I just didn't
Speaker 1: quite hit it enough and it curled off. And then
Speaker 1: on thirteen part three, it's like playing a one seventy shot.
Speaker 1: He hits it to four ft and makes birdie and
Speaker 1: at that point I was like, I'm pretty sure I'm
Speaker 1: in trouble because I think that put me like three down.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I'm pretty much in trouble.
Speaker 1: And it was thirteen. I hit a hit it on
Speaker 1: the part three too, like two or three feet and
Speaker 1: pay Bertie there and I called the three pot on
Speaker 1: fifteen and he three put and I finished him out
Speaker 1: on sixteen, which was awesome. The last ten holes were
Speaker 1: just awesome golf. If you love golf. It was fun
Speaker 1: to watch Riggs, Bertie nine Pete went after a pin
Speaker 1: that he probably shouldn't have gone after on ten, but
Speaker 1: it was a great shot and he ended up with
Speaker 1: an apple. And so the last ten holes were amazing.
Speaker 1: I think Rix was like plus two and he might
Speaker 1: have been even and so it was really good golf.
Speaker 1: And at that point I was like, Wow, this kid
Speaker 1: really just kind of put put everything aside and was
Speaker 1: able to kind of you know, grow and that in
Speaker 1: that aspect. So it was fun. He was like the
Speaker 1: all star at the club at c C n C
Speaker 1: for for weeks and months afterwards. Everyone's coming up to
Speaker 1: him like, great, word Pete. He's like, thanks, guys, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean he's twelve, so um. So it was great.
Speaker 1: That was so much fun, and I do wish I
Speaker 1: would have won, but it's probably better that I lost,
Speaker 1: Like it's probably funnier and better for our brand that
Speaker 1: I lost, but but it would have you know, I
Speaker 1: wanted to win, like, I genuinely did not want to
Speaker 1: be the guy that lost to a twelve year old.
Speaker 1: But he played great. What are you gonna do? That
Speaker 1: was launch we So the next week we went over
Speaker 1: to for Sheldon Pinehurst and we we bought lunch for
Speaker 1: all the doctors and nurses helping um save lives for
Speaker 1: the coronavirus and for everyone in the hospitals, and it
Speaker 1: was it was an awesome experience to help other people.
Speaker 1: So yet another moment memory and another opportunity to make
Speaker 1: an impact and further endear himself into the fabric of
Speaker 1: the sand Hills. But there are at least a few
Speaker 1: dudes in a few carts who were happy to see
Speaker 1: Riggs go home. It was funny. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: like mid you know, in the heart of sort of
Speaker 1: co of it and the world being shut down, and
Speaker 1: Pineers was pretty dead at the moment, and I went
Speaker 1: out at like five pm to film a couple of
Speaker 1: videos out on Pires number four. And I'm out there
Speaker 1: and as you know, you know very well, like on
Speaker 1: course four of course too, there's just you can't ride
Speaker 1: a cart anywhere on the on the fairways or you
Speaker 1: have to stay in the car path the whole time.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you just know, everybody knows that, and
Speaker 1: so of course it's closed. But I had hit up
Speaker 1: and said, hey, I'm gonna go out and film some
Speaker 1: things that cool. They're like, yeah, no problem. So I'm
Speaker 1: out there on the second hold. Just come whizzing down
Speaker 1: the fairway, or like four carts that just come whizzing
Speaker 1: down the fairway hitting shots on number four and I
Speaker 1: simply took a picture of it and just texted to
Speaker 1: my guy Dave, who works in the golf shop. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: do you know who these guys are? Like they might
Speaker 1: have been buddies of his who just ripped around at night.
Speaker 1: It might have been totally kosher. I didn't really know.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I just want to know if
Speaker 1: you know what's going on here. So I'm sitting at
Speaker 1: dinner with my fiancee and he sends me, sends me
Speaker 1: a picture of these guys in the fairway on whole
Speaker 1: thirteen on course four, and I was like, it didn't
Speaker 1: take me any time to respond. I said, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: taking care of it. I'm sent the rangers headed out there.
Speaker 1: And he's like, what are you doing. I'm you're That
Speaker 1: means I'm an arc. Everybody's gonna know that it was me,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, that's against the rules. Thanks for
Speaker 1: letting us know. And Ress like, what the funk you
Speaker 1: shouldn't have You shouldn't have said that, and YadA YadA yah.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, dude, it's still against the rules.
Speaker 1: You did a horrodic thing out there. Marshall comes out
Speaker 1: asked him to you know, does a little investigation turns
Speaker 1: out that they had snuck on the golf course. Uh
Speaker 1: and and they were asked to leave. So I told
Speaker 1: the story on the podcast and Frankie and Trent were
Speaker 1: roasting me. They're like, what a narc what a loser
Speaker 1: you are? In my defense, like I'm helping out my guys,
Speaker 1: like they're you know, they're just trying to do their job.
Speaker 1: You can't be driving the carts all over. If these
Speaker 1: guys were just walking down of the course, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have even said anything, but like, you're driving the carts
Speaker 1: all over, you can't be doing that across. It ended
Speaker 1: up a radar put it on their radar. They got
Speaker 1: kicked off the course. Well, Frankie was like, what do
Speaker 1: you think You're like the moral cumpass of pine Hurst um?
Speaker 1: And I was like whatever and we moved on and
Speaker 1: that was it. And as he's telling this story to
Speaker 1: his his buddies, who sometimes sneak on golf courses themselves,
Speaker 1: I believe one of them says, who are you the
Speaker 1: moral compass of Pinehurst. Meet Frankie Barelli, one of riggs
Speaker 1: co hosts of the four Play podcast. You know, we
Speaker 1: like to give each other ship. That's what we are,
Speaker 1: that's the type of podcast we are, so Um and Riggs.
Speaker 1: We like to tell Riggs that he takes the game
Speaker 1: extremely seriously and and that's a good thing we have.
Speaker 1: I think we have four different views of the game
Speaker 1: of golf on one podcast. I think that's what makes
Speaker 1: us a little bit different, right, Like Riggs takes things
Speaker 1: super seriously. He wants to win everything he plays. He's
Speaker 1: very he's very much comes from that angle of like
Speaker 1: this is the way you do things on the golf course.
Speaker 1: But we still can have fun, but like make sure
Speaker 1: you go by like the standards or whatever. And so
Speaker 1: like we like to give him ships up from time
Speaker 1: to time. And him being at Pineers for nine nine
Speaker 1: days and seeing some guys driving up on on the
Speaker 1: golf course that he's at, taking videos all over the
Speaker 1: place and taking pictures of him, it just felt a
Speaker 1: little dirty to us. Um and I've even said this
Speaker 1: to pass me. I'm like, you know, we gave him
Speaker 1: ship on the podcast, but there's no denying that that's
Speaker 1: the right move to to. You know, they're giving him
Speaker 1: all this access to this golf course. He's raised a
Speaker 1: ton of money. They have a great relationship, which we'll
Speaker 1: talk about later. Um, but it's just the picture and
Speaker 1: Riggs and everything about that scenario just came off very
Speaker 1: Rigs to us. I don't know if that makes any sense,
Speaker 1: but like it's very stereotypically Riggs for him to take
Speaker 1: a picture of guys playing the golf course and send
Speaker 1: it out like it was, I don't know, like the
Speaker 1: biggest crime in the world. That's it. That's perfect. That's that.
Speaker 1: You know, we have a new mascot, Sam Riggs, some
Speaker 1: moral compass of pineers. I'm googling, uh, you know, gift
Speaker 1: items and trying to find compasses for sale. Spend a
Speaker 1: decent amount of time taking just the right compass engraved
Speaker 1: to fix a Putta Boy logo to it, a beautiful
Speaker 1: brass ball mark that fits the thing perfectly, and presented
Speaker 1: it to him um in a in a understated ceremony,
Speaker 1: really for given the honor and the prestige that comes
Speaker 1: with it. Well, like a week later, pastially shows up
Speaker 1: and he had I guess um. He So he had
Speaker 1: a compass, an old wooden compass that when you open
Speaker 1: it right, it's like, um, you know it's it's it's
Speaker 1: like a box. It's like a compass in a box.
Speaker 1: And when you open the box, on the underside of
Speaker 1: the lid was engraved Samuel Riggs, Brazilian Moral Compass of Pineers.
Speaker 1: So if that doesn't say that this man gets it,
Speaker 1: that patially totally gets it. Um it's so perfect. It's
Speaker 1: probably the best gift I'll ever receive. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I've got it with me and I'll carry it with
Speaker 1: me all the time. But that's how I became the
Speaker 1: moral Compass of Pinecings. If if we find ourselves at
Speaker 1: a crossroads and we need to decide, you know, do
Speaker 1: we go down this road or that road, We're gonna
Speaker 1: a consult with the compass to make sure that we
Speaker 1: don't veer kind of from the north Star. Really some
Speaker 1: halftime reflections on Riggs is ninety nine days at Pinehurst
Speaker 1: once again, Sir Nick Faldo, how can you look at
Speaker 1: the room menu for the room service for it's bad
Speaker 1: enough for two days in the row, isn't that when
Speaker 1: you like keep looking at tomato soup or should I
Speaker 1: have the prawns kiss? Ada? Okay, done that? And then
Speaker 1: you go to your Ahai tuna and your chicken and
Speaker 1: and and your biddest sound. And I see it. I
Speaker 1: mean you've seen the seen the same menu for nine days.
Speaker 1: What was he doing in there? Meet Sheila Wilson, a
Speaker 1: grade school teacher, child psychologist and bartender at the Pine Cone,
Speaker 1: the mobile drink station that overlooks the Cradle. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean one thing, I know. You know he's crazy and
Speaker 1: he does all. I love the fact, being an elementary
Speaker 1: teacher myself, I love when he kind of switches gears
Speaker 1: when he sees young kids, like we've got a lot
Speaker 1: of local kids and a lot of members. The kids
Speaker 1: are out here playing. He approached He approached him, you know,
Speaker 1: every time there was a kid out here playing on
Speaker 1: the cradle. I love the fact that you know, how's
Speaker 1: your gold, how's school? You know, stay with it man,
Speaker 1: and that you know he's really kind of switched. And um,
Speaker 1: I love how he approached the kids. Had that impressed me.
Speaker 1: Pete Myers, the kid who took him out three and
Speaker 1: two on a couple of cool anecdotes and what has
Speaker 1: happened since his win. The Jonas brothers were on the
Speaker 1: podcast talking about me, and I think that was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of college letters. It was awesome,
Speaker 1: and the whole process, it's it's just been an awesome experience.
Speaker 1: Mike Pete's dad again. Yeah, So he he was. He
Speaker 1: walked into this thing and so open minded. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many people we would run
Speaker 1: into who he gave his mobile number two and they
Speaker 1: would say, I texted him today and you know, and
Speaker 1: he replies to them. And so it wasn't like this
Speaker 1: guy who just was too cool for school. I mean,
Speaker 1: he really kind of came and with an open mind
Speaker 1: and it became a part of the fabric of er.
Speaker 1: What Riggs did was superpotful and I think he had
Speaker 1: a good time while he was down here too. Riggs
Speaker 1: on his content the Cradle and proper credit. They deserve
Speaker 1: proper exposure and proper excitement, right, And I think that
Speaker 1: that's something that I'm able to convey, is that like,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not posting the stuff that I post
Speaker 1: because I feel this deep obligation too. I I share
Speaker 1: things in my life that I've experienced and say, holy ship,
Speaker 1: this is so good, I have to share it. And
Speaker 1: like the Cradle was something that I shared all the
Speaker 1: time because I just couldn't help it. I was like,
Speaker 1: people the internet has to see this right now, like
Speaker 1: they won't believe and and so you're right, like they
Speaker 1: he deserve that, and and the place really is that
Speaker 1: awesome and it never gets old. One more from Tom Passionate.
Speaker 1: After the first two months, we began to understand his
Speaker 1: nuances and yeah, we were able to get under a
Speaker 1: skin and it became personal and it was no longer
Speaker 1: the trophy hunt. It was no longer about what he shot,
Speaker 1: what his score was. It was just about the people
Speaker 1: that he met while he was here. And I love that.
Speaker 1: I really do love when I can tell people that,
Speaker 1: you know, they're real people that are working here, who
Speaker 1: are raising their families here, who have lives, who love
Speaker 1: Pinehurs just as much as they do. And when we
Speaker 1: can convey that, when we can share that, and when
Speaker 1: you feel it, you really kind of begin to understand
Speaker 1: what makes Pinehurs so special. And some people it happens
Speaker 1: in one day. Other people it may take a week,
Speaker 1: or it may take your third trip here. But at
Speaker 1: some point, uh, you connect with Pinehurst in a meaningful way,
Speaker 1: and clearly that's what happened to Riggs. In Part two,
Speaker 1: which will drop next week, a lot more on the
Speaker 1: tear jerking chemistry between Riggs and Pashley, Riggs and pine Hurst,
Speaker 1: and of course the pain Stewart putt to beat Kevin Kissner.
Speaker 1: Anybody would anybody who plays golf would kill for this chance.
Speaker 1: You're on you know you're we had I think we
Speaker 1: had our peak twenty six thousand people watching live on
Speaker 1: Instagram live. You know, the video is gonna get tons
Speaker 1: of views, and we put the edited video out which
Speaker 1: I think it has six seven hundred thousand views something
Speaker 1: like that already on YouTube. Um, there are a couple
Speaker 1: of hundred people there and you're not just playing against
Speaker 1: your Joe Schmo like weekend Golf group it So this
Speaker 1: is to beat Kevin Kissler. So it's like all of that.
Speaker 1: I think the Instagram poll that I put up when
Speaker 1: I said, um, who's gonna win us or kids? That
Speaker 1: said like eighty four percent of people said Kissers. Are
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