WEBVTT - Barstool Riggs, Part 1: His 99 days at Pinehurst. 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:06.000 I watched all those stupid with some of them. Someone has, 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.760 you know, nine for nine. I honestly used to watch 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.799 a minute and a half and go, okay, I'm done, 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:13.760 and then just and then put the phone down. So 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.040 obviously never watched some of them because it's like, I 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.880 can't look at a seven minutes How can you watch 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.200 him purpose seven minutes for crying out that what a 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:25.439 waste of space? Yeah, what a waste of my life? 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:34.640 You know? Crush done? Where is easy? He's late? Put 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:49.559 another log? Five? Nobody here is good time. Welcome to 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.680 the fire pit with Matt Chenella. Good to be back. 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:55.920 Hope you and your family had a safe and healthy holiday. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.920 This particular fire pit's coming in a little hot sir. Next, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.000 follow off the top given Sam Riggs Bazoian shit about 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.120 a shortcam to which it just brings more energy and 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.600 eyeballs to the conveyor Belta content coming from Barstool Riggs 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.160 his social and digital channels all a vertical under the 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:17.760 umbrella of Barstool Sports. I met Riggs Abandoned Dunes last year. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:19.600 He was a guest of a buddy on my annual 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.720 Buddies trip, the Uncle Tony Invitational. He was a blast 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.520 to say. What you see is what you get isn't 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.399 exactly accurate. What you see is about half of what 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.760 you get. But as he says, it comes from a 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.959 great place. He's got a big heart, healthy and infectious 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:37.800 attitude with just the right amount of reverence for history, integrity, loyalty, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.840 and tradition. That's not to say he won't pass out 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.160 on the putting green, but in the end, no harm, 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.520 no foul, and don't look now, he's a ton of fun. 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.680 You've got a problem with that, and you're probably not 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.600 sitting at this pit anyway. Today you're gonna learn a 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.760 lot more about Riggs's thirty three from St. Charles, Missouri. 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:55.720 We took up the game of golf as a kid. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.280 My dad got me into it, and we really didn't 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.280 even blame uch golf. We would just go to the 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.960 driving room. Remember that, I love the putting green and 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.320 I liked hitting balls a little bit, and we we 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.440 didn't really play a ton of golf, and we did 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.000 all kinds of sports. I mean, hockey was my big sport, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.079 but my dad my parents always pushed playing a little 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.959 bit of everything. So golf is kind of just like 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.320 one of the sports that I played. Reegs found enough 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.120 success in both the books and on the ice to 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.440 play hockey at Harvard. So yeah, I mean I was 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:28.919 on at one point. I think I was a B 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.720 list Central Scouting, which meant, you know that I would 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.200 probably be a top three, you know, three or four 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.200 rounder in the NHL draft. And then I just when 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:41.799 I went to college, I didn't have the like comprehensive 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.640 drive that you have to have like I didn't. I 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.800 would show up on the ice and I'm fiercely competitive 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.600 and I was skilled, but like everyone else that, you know, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:52.120 the guys that made it were eating right, They're cooking 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:54.240 kind of grilling their own chickens that they wouldn't eat 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.000 like the wrong stuff. They're working out NonStop, they're stretching 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.880 off ice. I didn't have any I just wanted to 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.800 go drink and I out with my buddies and play 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.120 fucking golf. That's pretty much what I wanted to do. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.239 So uh so that was kind of when I realized, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:08.720 you know, I'm not going to play in the NHL. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.760 I'm just kind of more of a of a you know, 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.120 hand guy, and golf was a lot more suitable for that. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.560 So I sort of phased out a hockey and into 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.079 into more golf. What Riggs lacked in passion and perseverance 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.240 on the ice, he put into getting a gig at 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.800 Barstool Sports, which at the time was an emerging movement 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.040 hitched to the trailer of Dave Portnoy and his relentless 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:33.000 onslaught of pop culture commentary and content. Riggs wrote and 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:37.720 pitched blogs, articles, and opinions to Portnoy. No shock, Riggs 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.800 warmed down. I actually got brought onto write about politics, 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.440 um because it was like Trump was becoming a thing. 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.880 Barstool wasn't covering politics because Dave was like, we just 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.560 like to make people laugh. Why would we get polarizing, 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:54.280 Why would we create this polarizing type content. I said, no, 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.240 I'll do it in a way that that is not 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.240 taking side, not polarizing. I'm just laughing and poking fun 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.680 at what the hell was going on in politics. Once 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.200 in the door, Riggs pitched Portnoy on a golf blog 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.240 and eventually a podcast, which he launched with his friend 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.080 Trent and Ryan in the two thousand seventeen Waste Management 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:16.000 Phoenix open on February one, two thousand seventeen. Riggs wrote 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:19.320 quote just over twenty four hours after its announcement and 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.640 twelve hours after the first episode went live. Four Play 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.719 is the number one sports podcast in the universe and 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.960 number six overall. Riggs and Trent filled a need to 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.680 not only test the narrow fairways of the sport, but 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:36.560 also the pack of reporters and writers who covered I 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.960 think Jeff Chagofridge a great example. I think if people 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.200 were are ever on the fence or they have a 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.960 certain sort of thought of like who we are and 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.039 what we do, and it's it's the wrong thought that 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.400 like I would point him towards. I think it was 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.480 in January we had Jeff Shagraford on the show, and 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.440 I think that they would they would listen to that show, 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.400 that podcast and go, holy ship, like, Okay, these guys, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.160 you know, we're not afraid, we're gonna We're happy to 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:01.360 to talk it out with. We believe we come from 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:04.920 the right place. In that place is we fucking love 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:08.520 golf and we love to have fun there. It is 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:12.760 again a love for golf and fun. Go figure that 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.240 and the ongoing struggle to get better. And I think 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.400 one of our greatest assets is that we all pretty 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.920 much stock to golf. I think the pad's people people 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:23.680 try to chirp us all the time, and I think 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.440 that in the in the golf industry, there is an 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:29.040 element of like protecting the belief that you're a you're 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.000 a stick, that you're a player, because otherwise folks think 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:35.039 you lose your credibility. And our take on it is 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.680 bro go look at the handicaps like a dispersion, like 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.040 of people fucking sucking golf, so like they love it 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.039 and they suck at it, and that it might be 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.800 there trying to break a hundred and try to break 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.559 ninety and like they're hitting awful shots and I'll post 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.640 a scorecard where I'll go, you know, double double bogey, 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.160 triple birdie, birdie. If people are like that's my guy, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.159 Hell yeah, like let's go. The story we tell today 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.160 is that of Riggs escaping New York City to quarantine 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:06.280 at the pine Hurst Resort in North Carolina. He stayed there, 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.839 playing an assortment of pine Hurst ten courses and others 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:13.560 in the area for nine nine days. Riggs literally rocked 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.880 the creadle of American golf for more than three months straight, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.480 and in doing so, forged a friendship with Tom Pashiley, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.800 president of pine Hurst, and he just loves golf. I 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.760 mean I could see going to a play. I mean, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.560 he came out and played every day. It just was NonStop. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.600 And you have to love the game to come out 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:35.279 and play it as much as he did. And he 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.680 shared it with other people, and so he is a 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.800 the number one fan of the game right now, and 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.200 he's sharing it with a very wide audience. And I 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.400 think I think we should, as we did, find ways 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:51.600 to to support what he's doing and get behind it. 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.440 Going back to the beginning, it was March sixteen when 0:06:55.520 --> 0:07:00.479 Riggs sent pastially a text quote, all Right, I believe 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.200 I'm fleeing New York City for Pinehurst and just winging it. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.280 I'd rather be shut down there than here. I'd forgotten 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.600 that that that that is, I mean, that's pretty much 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.560 exactly how this whole Days thing came to be. It 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.760 was it was just I saw the writing on the wall. 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.720 Things were getting bad New York City. You know, now 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.000 we've kind of New York's been through it. Everybody was 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.320 aware of it that New York was the epicenter for 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.200 at the time, it was a couple of hundred cases. 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.800 And it wasn't it wasn't too crazy, but people were 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.000 worried that it was going to me. And I simply said, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.640 you know, I don't want to be caged in my 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.560 shoe box apartment in Manhattan. I want to I want 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.240 to be somewhere where I could do stuff, where I 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.280 could be out and about, um, where I could be 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.320 on a golf course, where I could film stuff, where 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.960 I can kind of not be stuck in my Manhattan apartment. 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.720 It was like, all right, we're in you know, we'll 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.120 figure it out. Let's go. The part of that texted 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.880 I cut out what I sent it to you was 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:59.840 my reply, which was l it was a phenomenon and 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.080 and you you kind of knew it while it was happening. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.840 You're like, this is probably never gonna happen again. We 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.080 hope it never happens in our lifetime that someone has 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.960 to stay here for ninety nine days. I've not seen it, 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.520 and you know, everyone's quarantine. I've not seen anybody else 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:21.280 who documented their quarantine for three months. Um. But yeah, 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:24.960 that that was you know, who knew that innocent enough 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:30.040 text message would lead to a lifetime of memories. We'll 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.320 get the essence of most of those memories, and we 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.520 have more than ten voices to help us do it. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:39.080 But for now, it's March eight, also known as Day 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:43.200 one of Yeah, I flew. I bought a flight. I 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:45.520 think my flight was sixty two bucks at the time, 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.160 and I just got a flight from New York to 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.920 uh TO to Raleigh and then just take an uber 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.640 which was fifty or sixty bucks wherever it is from 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.280 Raleigh from r d A to uh Piners. And I 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.760 didn't even know if I had I didn't know what 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.880 my situation was because, like you know, Hash is the 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:12.160 president of a massive, iconic, prestigious resort, and he's going 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.760 through the fact that the whole world shutting down, including 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:16.959 his resort, so I don't want to be bothered. Him 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:18.560 was like, hey, do I have a hotel room? So 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:22.160 I just I had said that text and and and 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:23.959 I you know, he had said a couple of things back, 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.880 but there was no real confirmation and I didn't need it. 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:27.440 I was like, I would go down and book a 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.559 room at to Carolina and I figured it out for 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.440 a few days and we'll just see what happens. Well, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.280 I get down there and I, you know, I go 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.720 through all this. I finally just arrived at pine Hurst. 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.320 You know, they pulled my uber pools right up in 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.000 the in the little awning there and and they're barrying 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.960 Kevin and the guys at the front door, who I 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.040 didn't really know at the time. They were just kind 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.000 of you know, the guys that welcome you and say 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.320 welcome to Pinehurst, welcome home. And uh, and I hopped out, 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:53.719 just went to the front desk. Yeah, I'm just I'm 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.400 not sure if you you have me in the system 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.560 or not. But but you know, my Sambazoian or maybe 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.719 rigs that I'll be under and uh, I'd love to 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.199 just book a room if you don't have me in there. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.600 And they're like, no problem, you know, Mr Brazoian, like, um, 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.240 police follow us this way, and of course pass should 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:13.000 put me in the fucking presidential suite at at the 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:19.320 Carolina Hotel. You know, that's part of the beauty of 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.920 being in the hospitality business. We can do things like 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.199 that that are unexpected, a total surprise. You're right. We 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.880 we had plenty of room and and so why not 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.480 why not go over the top and show him some 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.920 world class Piners Hospitality, and he stayed in that Presidential 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.200 suite I think for the first week that he was here, 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.360 and then we ended up closing the Carolina Hotel. He 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.600 was probably the saddest person when that when that decision 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.920 was made, because it meant he had to get out 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:50.079 of the Presidential Suite and fend for himself, which he did, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.840 which he did through a variety of properties while we 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.120 were closed. So let's see, I started at the Carolina 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.400 Hotel at the Presidential suite. Couple three weeks later, maybe 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:03.200 I moved to um a home about, you know, a 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:06.199 block away from the Carolina Hotel. Then a few weeks 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:08.840 after that, I moved to another home down on Donald 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.679 Ross Drive, So that was three. Then four was this 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.640 other little home we stayed at for a couple of 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.559 weeks with a pool. And then five was a condo 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:23.480 across from the seventeenth Green on course number five, so 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.080 right across the main road there. And then six I 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.120 was back in the Carolina Hotel and I stayed there 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.839 for about a month. Yet, so I believe I stayed 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.720 in six different places while I was there. What Riggs 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:37.559 does is deliver. What he delivers is social and digital 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:41.280 experiences relating to golf. If he sees it, likes it, 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.440 he does it and post it. His content is like 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.680 the weathern Ireland. If you don't like what you're getting, 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.280 wait ten minutes, something else is coming. And at Pioneers 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.000 he had the run of the place. I'd love to 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.160 hear about how it started, the Daily nine and how 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:58.600 that began. And I remember I didn't know if it 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.679 was gonna stick or not, but he's stuck with it, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.520 and you're right, you just whether he was trying to, 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.800 you know, hit just land of all on a grain 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.320 or land of all in a bunker, the interactions that 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.360 he was having with Nick Faldo became, you know, fodder 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:16.400 for everything, and just there were so many layers. It 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:21.800 was a multi layer cake that that you got to 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.640 devour every night when you got home to see where 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.920 where did the Daily nine take place? Today? Riggs provides 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.240 more background on the Daily Nine, in which Reggs tried 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.000 to successfully hit nine puts or chips each day from 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.600 a different spot, playing a variety of shots. I mean, 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.320 I knew quarantine was going to be a thing for everybody, right, 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.120 So I was like, if what's like a relatable thing 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.840 people were working on their games. Something simple, they're putting, 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.040 And that's pretty much where it started. Was like I 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.240 was just putting in a mat in my apartment because 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.800 that was the only thing I could do. And um, 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:53.719 and so I just started cranking these videos and I 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:55.319 was like, well, now that I'm pioneers, I can get 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.480 a little bit more creative. I could chip, I could 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.439 play a hole, I could really do whatever I wanted. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:01.880 But it was a way for me pretty much every 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.160 single day to put out something like some sort of 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:08.560 video golf content and um, and people loved it so 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.640 like it got the engagement going, it got the chatter going. 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.880 Nick Faldo was in their roast to me, um, Max 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.600 Homa JT. Like these guys are all in their roast 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.160 at me and chirping me, and that's good, Like that's 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.680 good for business as long as you don't care like 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.400 how you're actually playing, Like as long as you get 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.320 over the fact that you're not that good. Like I know, 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:29.520 I'm not that good. I don't make every potot hit, 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.960 so clearly there's something wrong. So as long as you 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:34.280 get over that as great. It's like people were engaged, 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.240 people were reacting to it. Um, it's getting hundreds of 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.719 thousands of yews a day. So I just started doing 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.560 the dayly night every day, and I mean I still 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.480 do it pretty much every day, has pastially pointed out 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.280 earlier Sir Nick Faldo stumbled upon some of this stuff 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.400 on his social feats, and he tries to explain the success. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.760 You know, life's life's a bitch, and then you sit 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:57.120 there and watch ricks Puh. I mean, oh my god, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.000 what coop he was. I mean, I think it's you know, 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.000 it's I think that's what it is when you're fitting 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.040 down and feeling sorry for yourself and you think God, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:13.080 life is tough of you know, I'm avoiding COVID nineteen, 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:17.719 the stock markets crashed, the budgets, got hemorrhoids, and then 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.520 you look at his stroke and you go, ah, not 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:26.520 everything in life is really bad in my life. Although 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.480 Riggs and his content, more specifically his putting stroke, aren't 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.200 for everyone, he could care less. He's committed to his 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.960 craft and his followers, and he was very content at 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:42.040 the Carolina Hotel. He took the quarantine very seriously and 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.520 and was distancing and I didn't see him. I don't 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.640 think for the first two weeks of his stay. I 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.280 just didn't want to get in his space because he 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:54.400 really did want to maintain his distance. Um. But he 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.200 early on left a note for the housekeeping staff. He 0:14:58.320 --> 0:14:59.960 left a note, wrote it on a piece of pay 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.960 for like who, put it outside of his bedroom and 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:06.040 the presidential suite. So someone came in the suite, got 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.880 to the bedroom, there's a note that says, hey, uh, 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.920 you know, no need to offer services given everything that's 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.760 going on, probably just not not required at this time. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.480 And within you know, thirty minutes of someone seeing that note, 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.040 I get a picture of it, and everybody thinks he 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.920 is quarantining in Pineers because he asked COVID. So he 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.240 caused a slight little panic early on in his state 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:31.120 because he was like, no, no, you stay away, and 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.000 they thought it was because he was the one that 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.680 was was infected, and anyhow it was. It was a 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:39.000 very thoughtful note, but it went the wrong way quickly. 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.040 That was probably the first and last time he did 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.760 anything in days that went the wrong way, as you'll 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.800 hear throughout this episode and the next. The reason why 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:52.920 this is such a compelling narrative is because Riggs trip 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.640 to Pineers was so much more than just made or 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.760 miss putts. It was about the development of interpersonal relationships, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:03.040 trying to stay positive and productive through some trying times. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.640 I do think that's sort of me becoming one with 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.640 the town, or ever you want to describe it. It 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.440 got to that point where it was like, no, I 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.440 am getting my coffee from from the same folks each morning, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.280 and I'm getting the same order for lunch, and and 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.400 now it's beyond just what would you you know, what 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.800 would you like for lunch? It's more like, how how 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:22.560 was that round last night? Did you get out of 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.040 the grad old again? I did, and they'd be like, 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.520 I saw that that video. What's up with that twelve 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.160 year old who smoked you in the golf court? You know. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.200 So it was like I started to build these relationships 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.440 with people, which then made it you know, that then 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.440 made it feel like I was at home. And it's 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.520 probably a result of a desire for that, you know. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.360 I was probably a result of like I wanted there 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:46.520 to be a home and and I didn't want to 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.920 go to my actual home back in St. Louis or 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:51.440 or you know, be with my parents. I was afraid 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.160 I was gonna bring this disease to them, and they're older, 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:55.560 and I didn't know how that would handle it. So 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:56.720 I don't want to be that guy. So I was 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:58.520 kind of stuck a little bit. I don't want to 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.560 go to New York, so so here I was, you know, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.560 stuck air quotes if you, if you will in in 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.520 pine Hurst and try to make the best of it. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.120 And luckily I became pretty tight with those people, which 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.080 I think everybody saw. Ten days into the trip, while 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.760 Riggs was still going about his business, the resort was 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.240 furloughing the majority of the staff. The pinners leadership had 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.199 a plan to help their cause. We dreamed up the 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:24.040 auction to try to do some good for all the 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.320 hundreds of employees has had been impacted. And as we 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.119 came up with these amazing Pinehurst experiences, were trying to 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.399 figure out, well, how are we gonna promote this, how 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:35.600 are we going to let people know about it? And 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:40.359 none of us feel comfortable going on Instagram live and 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.520 talking about things for an extended period of time, and 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.640 so the light bulb went off. It was really hard, 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.280 obviously on the people who were laid off, so he 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.800 was trying to very hard come up with ideas like 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.680 I think, you know, I think we have a lot 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.120 of really cool things at Pinehurst that without too much 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.560 hard cost to us, we could offer up that I 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.520 think people would really love. What do you what do 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.119 you think about this rigs? You know, I was like, 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.520 I think that's a great idea that Doring at Cottage 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.320 is a really good example of like something that they 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.280 you know, bought and renovated and restored, but they cherish it. 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.320 They don't let just really anybody go rent it and 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.919 stay there. It's it's to be protected and used, you know, 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.960 strategically and when they really want it. And so there's like, 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.280 you know, we can offer that up, and we just 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.240 kind of started brainstorming and you know, patially kind of 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.840 lead the entire thing, but um, but yes, it's like, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:30.800 would you offer up a couple of items and would 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.440 you be willing to kind of bring the auction home 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.920 do like the final home stretch, go on Instagram Live 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.840 and see if we can push those numbers up. It's 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.120 like absolutely so. Just even in kind of building out 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:45.040 the idea for the fundraiser, you kind of I learned 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.439 a lot about why they were doing it, where the 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.200 money was going to go how you know, and why 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:52.600 it was important and so yes, So we offered up 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.080 three or four different things. I think that the option, 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.200 the auction items that I put up, you know, um, 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.560 a couple of spots of the Barcelol Classic match against 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.720 me at Pineer's number four. I think they ended up 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.639 totally over fifty grand just the items that that we 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.600 put up, and then you know, they raised Pinehurst over 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.040 three hundred thousand dollars total. I think they were around 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.240 two hundred thousand, and we started the Instagram Live. I 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.240 spoke for thirty minutes straight like a psychopath, walking around 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.399 the the pro shop at Pineers where they opened it 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.200 up and and just kind of highlighted different things and 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.399 spoke by myself. Ben Bridgers is Pinehers director of golf. 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.679 It was a great moment for all of us because 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:33.679 you know, I think that's what he does. You know, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.800 people listen to him and he's definitely an influencer. And 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.200 for I think that was one of those things where 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.840 we knew who he was as a person because he 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.879 cares about people and he wanted to help us and 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.840 our employees, and you know, he's obviously starting to have 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.160 a you know, having a better time, and I think 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.879 you just really got engaged to it. And uh so 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.960 the members are tuning in and just locals are tuning in, 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:58.720 and it was it was it was a lot of 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.439 fun to watch. But you know, people came over to 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:04.920 me for weeks after that that it might be the 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:08.000 superintendent or it might be um, someone who doesn't even 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:09.760 work at the resort but but who works in the 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.280 village and lives in the village and stopped me and say, hey, 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:13.960 you know, I got I got a lot of guys 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:15.720 on my staff who got laid off because of this, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.040 and like what you've been doing last week with with 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.840 pastially and with Pineers like meant a lot to those people, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.280 you know. So it was like and to me it 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:24.600 was nothing. It was like, yeah, I just go on 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.240 Instagram live at a p M and and talk about Pineers. 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.080 How hard could that be? But like, but to them 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.280 it meant so much, you know, and I do think 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.640 you're right, Mattie G. And that like that moment sort 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:38.000 of took it from hey, I'm on like kind of 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.720 a weird like pseudo vacation thing to like, no, I'm 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.399 now like part of this team and this team is 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.399 trying to get through this tough time, and and I 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.000 was very much supplanted on that team, and I was 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.480 I was there to help, and that kind of I guess, 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.760 catapulted me into this relationship with more than just the 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.639 golf courses in the golf resort, but like with the people, 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:04.159 which which obviously culminated the other day. So the Riggs 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:07.199 root system is starting to take hold. But how is 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:12.639 he getting around town? Parksdale and and Bridgers got me 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:14.399 a golf cart, right, So they were like, hey, you 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.880 know our shuttle services shut down. We know you don't 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:18.560 have a car down here. We'll give you you want 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:20.600 to borrow one of our golf carts. And so I 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:23.880 would legitimately got a golf cart from the main clubhouse 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.200 where all their carts are. They gave me a charger, 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:29.000 a golf cart charger. I drove it to the Carolina Hotel. 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:33.600 Then my guys Kevin Barry, Ryan Charles, who run the 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:36.399 entrance there in the front door the bell hops at 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:39.760 the Carolina Hotel um would charge it and watch over 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:41.480 it all night every night. And when I get up 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.840 in the morning, I walk right out, Boom, there's my 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.320 golf cart. Sitting right next to the Carolina Hotel hop 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.000 in it go over to the golf court. One guy 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.600 facilitating a lot of Riggs golf I tender right was 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:56.159 David Golinsky, the first assistant golf professional. He made lifelong 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.720 friends here. Um I consider him like a friend now. 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.679 But it all started with one cradle match, one fifty 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:09.480 cradle match at five back to Tom passhilely for some perspective. 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:12.680 For whatever reason, Riggs and and Blinsky hit it off 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.359 and they became kind of a regular Cradle afternoon. They 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.719 had a regular game five thirty every afternoon on the Cradle. 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:23.879 That crowd would get together and they would they would 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.159 just kind of attract people as they went, so by 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:28.520 the time they would leave the clubhouse, by the time 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:30.320 they got to the first tee of the Cradle, there 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.320 might be eight people in tow and it was actually 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.919 kind of a cool scene. I think. I don't know 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:37.720 that our people used to play that much golf, but 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.479 when when they got the invitation from Riggs, they were 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.560 always quick to say yes. The Cradle is the seven 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.480 nine yard nine hole Part three course that was built 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.639 by Gil Hanson, opened in two thousands seventeen, which was 0:22:49.720 --> 0:22:54.160 yet another modern enhancement to an otherwise storied resort. It's 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.880 a fun factory, a memory maker, suitable to not only 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:00.200 Riggs and his Shenanigans, but it works for everyone, which 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.760 is why it's so popular. And at one point Riggs 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:07.040 made a hold on one. Yeah, second hole at the Cradle, 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:09.600 got my first ace. We played the Cradle. I mean 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:11.640 I probably played the Cradle over a hundred times while 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.600 I was there, and so it kind of became like, Man, 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:16.800 I'm really gonna need to get an ace at some point. 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:18.960 And you come close a lot. I mean, if you 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.400 play the Cradle a good amount, like you're gonna come close, 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.800 you're gonna hit shots that that spin or catch up 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:25.600 hill and go right by the hole, and everyone's gonna 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.800 get excited. And and yeah, the second hole at the 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:32.399 Cradle colonnade. It's called it's a beautiful kalonade in the 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:35.040 in the clubhouse in the background. I think it was 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.680 like eight yard seventy yards something like that. That day, 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.240 Penn was in kind of the middle left little bowl 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.959 and I hit a perfect fifty eight degree. It landed 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.800 like eight ft behind it started spinning back towards the 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.080 pin and we were like, go, go, go go, and 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.080 then it looked like it stopped and then it fell 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:53.679 in and everybody. Everybody went absolutely crazy. And that's to 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.439 this day. It's the only ace I've ever had, and 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.239 I'm I mean, I think it's about as cool an 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.520 ace as you can add. And back to passionately for 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.040 his pert, I think he's played the Cradle more times 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.159 than I have, and uh, I've I've had two aces 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.520 on the seventh hole. So it's just from a statistical standpoint, 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:12.480 it's probably a little disappointing to only have one on 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:17.400 on the second hole. Um, but it's it's the icing 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:19.480 on the cake for him to have been able to 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:21.520 be at Pineers for so long, to have his first 0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:24.160 hole in one, to have it happen on the Cradle 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.560 around other people, you know, to be able to celebrate 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.879 it with other folks. Um, he really does. You know, 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:38.040 his his his um, his style, and in his acceptance 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:39.280 of the Cradle, of the amount of fund that he 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.320 has while he's playing golf, the social aspect of the 0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.159 game that he's so good at celebrating is what the 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.200 Cradle is all about. So it's only fitting that he 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.840 would find a way to to eke out one ace 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.640 on the cradle. In terms of these moments, these memories 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.320 were just getting started. At this point, Riggs is getting 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.800 in deep, not only with the culture and community, but 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:04.440 specifically with Kolinsky and now Klinski's bride to be. That 0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.240 was sort of my my bridge into the community. Beyond 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.840 Ashley was was Dave. And and from that moment on, 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.520 you know, we started playing our fifty hour game, our 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.680 long standing game on the cradle and um and now, 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.960 I mean, I'm going to Dave's wedding and I was 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.119 slotted to introduce him and his wife, him and his 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.120 fiance Kayla, you know, literally at their wedding reception. So 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:29.280 he and I became very very close. And he is 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:33.400 a hilarious little guy. He's the best. Yeah, I get 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:37.240 married on July team and him and his girlfriend are 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:42.199 coming and he'll actually announce us at our wedding. You 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.840 know how cool is that. Meanwhile, a man named Mike 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.240 Myers of Cleveland, Ohio, had also decided to quarantine to 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.960 pine Hurst. He brought his wife and four kids to 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.240 their second home to get away from the big city 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.879 and get closer to his parents. Were members at the 0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:01.120 Country Club of North Carolina. Mike's son, Eater, who's twelve, 0:26:01.640 --> 0:26:05.399 is an accomplished junior golfer. I didn't really uh follow 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:09.480 the four playing crew, but um my two sons, the 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.480 two older sons that I have, are really into it. 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.119 And so you know, Pioneers is a small town, and 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:18.640 so we saw Riggs bouncing around and everyone talking about it. 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.280 And there was like a Sunday morning where I just 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:24.640 reached out over Instagram and just said, hey, my sons 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:28.040 would love more than anything to play with you. And 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.399 and it was more also an invitation of just like 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:33.560 do you want to play CCNC, because you know it's 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.400 different and it's so it's kind of like, hey, if 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.360 you would like to come play dog would we'd love 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.800 to have you rounds on us and the boys love 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.639 it and and then I just kind of threw in 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:46.240 there by the way, my twelve year old, we'll take 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.840 you down from whatever team you want to play. And yeah, 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.000 I mean we get you know, look, we get we 0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.400 get messages and challenges from people all the time. Better 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.359 you know, I want to take you on, come play 0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.680 me in the magic. But when it kids twelve years 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.040 old and m and it's like I'm twelve, you're thirty three. 0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:03.920 I'm gonna beat you in golf. I was like, that's 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.600 that's a no break. Yeah, I have to do that. 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.560 So it was kind of a It was as simple 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.640 as the optics of like this little twelve year old 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.879 child briefing is going to take on me at golf. 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.560 When I say, Pete Myers is an accomplished junior golfer. 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:26.080 I've wore over fifty locals tour events, and um, I'm 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.879 just getting into some of the junior events at pine 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:32.159 Hurst called the Red Wete and Blue Tournament and the 0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:36.480 Junior World Champion Himes. So one May one, forty five 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.920 days into a ninety Pinehurst to Pelooza, it was game 0:27:39.960 --> 0:27:43.560 on Mike Myers on being a little overwhelmed on behalf 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.680 of his son today. As we got to the driving 0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:48.679 range and we saw that Raleigh News cameras on the 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:52.840 tripods and then Brendan Jones, Riggs producer with his camera, 0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.280 I started getting a little nervous. He needed a great 0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.520 first team ball, which obviously is the hardest shot of 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.720 the day to get off t there Rags was standing 0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.560 about four feet from him, just kind of giving to 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.040 the Tiger stare Um. So I was a little nervous there. 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:09.800 They didn't they didn't play real well in the first 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.160 few holes, and so I was walking along with Brendan, 0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:16.520 the producer, and he would kind of lean over and say, 0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:20.920 we have eighty thousand people on right now, and then 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.520 I was like, what did I get my kid into. 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.719 As for the match, as Mike said, both players were 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.040 a little off early. But Riggs Burtie the ninth to 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.000 get to one down at the turn. So shout to 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:37.960 Justin Thomas on um the front nine and he said, 0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.760 can you beat in twelve year old? And just Thomas 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.600 replied and said a twelve year old, yes, the one 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.960 you're playing, no, And that gave me a little confidence that, 0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:51.480 you know, I could really beat him. So it backfired 0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.360 on Riggs. He tried to reach out to Justin Thomas 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:58.200 to get confidence and a push for himself and it 0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:04.080 ended up being a push for you. Yeah, So Riggs 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.120 was texting Justin Thomas, were tweeting him. He was texting 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.480 and was Riggs showing you the text messages? Yeah, he 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.160 was showing me my dad and we still have a 0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.960 frame picture in our house in it of the text 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:19.160 exchange between Riggs and Justin Thomas saying you can beat 0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:22.560 a twelve year old, just not this foot yeld. Yeah. 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.320 On the eleventh hole, I have like probably six seven 0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:31.120 ft for birdie to get it to one down, and 0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:33.480 I burned the edge and it went all the way around, 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.160 it didn't fall. And then on the twelve hole, I 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.040 again I have like ten feet straight up the hill 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:40.920 for Bertie Pizza and for par and I just didn't 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.160 quite hit it enough and it curled off. And then 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.840 on thirteen part three, it's like playing a one seventy shot. 0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:51.640 He hits it to four ft and makes birdie and 0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.120 at that point I was like, I'm pretty sure I'm 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.280 in trouble because I think that put me like three down. 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.479 And I was like, oh, I'm pretty much in trouble. 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.160 And it was thirteen. I hit a hit it on 0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:06.600 the part three too, like two or three feet and 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:10.240 pay Bertie there and I called the three pot on 0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:16.840 fifteen and he three put and I finished him out 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:21.680 on sixteen, which was awesome. The last ten holes were 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.640 just awesome golf. If you love golf. It was fun 0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.040 to watch Riggs, Bertie nine Pete went after a pin 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.080 that he probably shouldn't have gone after on ten, but 0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:32.120 it was a great shot and he ended up with 0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.920 an apple. And so the last ten holes were amazing. 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.200 I think Rix was like plus two and he might 0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.640 have been even and so it was really good golf. 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:42.280 And at that point I was like, Wow, this kid 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:46.600 really just kind of put put everything aside and was 0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.719 able to kind of you know, grow and that in 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.760 that aspect. So it was fun. He was like the 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:52.600 all star at the club at c C n C 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.040 for for weeks and months afterwards. Everyone's coming up to 0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.600 him like, great, word Pete. He's like, thanks, guys, you know, 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.960 I mean he's twelve, so um. So it was great. 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.240 That was so much fun, and I do wish I 0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.440 would have won, but it's probably better that I lost, 0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.960 Like it's probably funnier and better for our brand that 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:10.880 I lost, but but it would have you know, I 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.800 wanted to win, like, I genuinely did not want to 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.400 be the guy that lost to a twelve year old. 0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.440 But he played great. What are you gonna do? That 0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:20.280 was launch we So the next week we went over 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:25.440 to for Sheldon Pinehurst and we we bought lunch for 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:30.840 all the doctors and nurses helping um save lives for 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:35.560 the coronavirus and for everyone in the hospitals, and it 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.800 was it was an awesome experience to help other people. 0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:44.800 So yet another moment memory and another opportunity to make 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.800 an impact and further endear himself into the fabric of 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.680 the sand Hills. But there are at least a few 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:53.040 dudes in a few carts who were happy to see 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.920 Riggs go home. It was funny. I mean, it was 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.080 like mid you know, in the heart of sort of 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.640 co of it and the world being shut down, and 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.440 Pineers was pretty dead at the moment, and I went 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.080 out at like five pm to film a couple of 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.920 videos out on Pires number four. And I'm out there 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.200 and as you know, you know very well, like on 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.640 course four of course too, there's just you can't ride 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.080 a cart anywhere on the on the fairways or you 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:19.680 have to stay in the car path the whole time. 0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.320 So it's like, you just know, everybody knows that, and 0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.760 so of course it's closed. But I had hit up 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:26.200 and said, hey, I'm gonna go out and film some 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.400 things that cool. They're like, yeah, no problem. So I'm 0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.600 out there on the second hold. Just come whizzing down 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.160 the fairway, or like four carts that just come whizzing 0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.960 down the fairway hitting shots on number four and I 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.320 simply took a picture of it and just texted to 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.880 my guy Dave, who works in the golf shop. I said, hey, 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.200 do you know who these guys are? Like they might 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.320 have been buddies of his who just ripped around at night. 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.880 It might have been totally kosher. I didn't really know. 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:49.400 I was just like, I just want to know if 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.800 you know what's going on here. So I'm sitting at 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:55.160 dinner with my fiancee and he sends me, sends me 0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.000 a picture of these guys in the fairway on whole 0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.760 thirteen on course four, and I was like, it didn't 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.120 take me any time to respond. I said, Okay, I'm 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.840 taking care of it. I'm sent the rangers headed out there. 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.520 And he's like, what are you doing. I'm you're That 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.400 means I'm an arc. Everybody's gonna know that it was me, 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:16.520 And I'm like, dude, that's against the rules. Thanks for 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:19.160 letting us know. And Ress like, what the funk you 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:23.560 shouldn't have You shouldn't have said that, and YadA YadA yah. 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.600 I was like, hey, dude, it's still against the rules. 0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.920 You did a horrodic thing out there. Marshall comes out 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.000 asked him to you know, does a little investigation turns 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.920 out that they had snuck on the golf course. Uh 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:41.000 and and they were asked to leave. So I told 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.320 the story on the podcast and Frankie and Trent were 0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.360 roasting me. They're like, what a narc what a loser 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.360 you are? In my defense, like I'm helping out my guys, 0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.400 like they're you know, they're just trying to do their job. 0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:53.560 You can't be driving the carts all over. If these 0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:55.360 guys were just walking down of the course, I wouldn't 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.920 have even said anything, but like, you're driving the carts 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.680 all over, you can't be doing that across. It ended 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.920 up a radar put it on their radar. They got 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.120 kicked off the course. Well, Frankie was like, what do 0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:06.800 you think You're like the moral cumpass of pine Hurst um? 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.200 And I was like whatever and we moved on and 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.799 that was it. And as he's telling this story to 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.920 his his buddies, who sometimes sneak on golf courses themselves, 0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:18.480 I believe one of them says, who are you the 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:22.880 moral compass of Pinehurst. Meet Frankie Barelli, one of riggs 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.840 co hosts of the four Play podcast. You know, we 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:27.560 like to give each other ship. That's what we are, 0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:30.440 that's the type of podcast we are, so Um and Riggs. 0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.520 We like to tell Riggs that he takes the game 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.719 extremely seriously and and that's a good thing we have. 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.879 I think we have four different views of the game 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:38.879 of golf on one podcast. I think that's what makes 0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.439 us a little bit different, right, Like Riggs takes things 0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.399 super seriously. He wants to win everything he plays. He's 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.200 very he's very much comes from that angle of like 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.080 this is the way you do things on the golf course. 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.000 But we still can have fun, but like make sure 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.880 you go by like the standards or whatever. And so 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:55.440 like we like to give him ships up from time 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:58.480 to time. And him being at Pineers for nine nine 0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.200 days and seeing some guys driving up on on the 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.640 golf course that he's at, taking videos all over the 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.800 place and taking pictures of him, it just felt a 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.719 little dirty to us. Um and I've even said this 0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.520 to pass me. I'm like, you know, we gave him 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.719 ship on the podcast, but there's no denying that that's 0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:16.719 the right move to to. You know, they're giving him 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.640 all this access to this golf course. He's raised a 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:20.440 ton of money. They have a great relationship, which we'll 0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.319 talk about later. Um, but it's just the picture and 0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.839 Riggs and everything about that scenario just came off very 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:28.640 Rigs to us. I don't know if that makes any sense, 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.920 but like it's very stereotypically Riggs for him to take 0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.879 a picture of guys playing the golf course and send 0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.759 it out like it was, I don't know, like the 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.520 biggest crime in the world. That's it. That's perfect. That's that. 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:45.080 You know, we have a new mascot, Sam Riggs, some 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:49.480 moral compass of pineers. I'm googling, uh, you know, gift 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.920 items and trying to find compasses for sale. Spend a 0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:57.440 decent amount of time taking just the right compass engraved 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.600 to fix a Putta Boy logo to it, a beautiful 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:06.440 brass ball mark that fits the thing perfectly, and presented 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:10.520 it to him um in a in a understated ceremony, 0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.880 really for given the honor and the prestige that comes 0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.600 with it. Well, like a week later, pastially shows up 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:21.439 and he had I guess um. He So he had 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:25.640 a compass, an old wooden compass that when you open 0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.479 it right, it's like, um, you know it's it's it's 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.440 like a box. It's like a compass in a box. 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:33.359 And when you open the box, on the underside of 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:38.240 the lid was engraved Samuel Riggs, Brazilian Moral Compass of Pineers. 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.120 So if that doesn't say that this man gets it, 0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:45.440 that patially totally gets it. Um it's so perfect. It's 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.160 probably the best gift I'll ever receive. And I mean, 0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:49.920 I've got it with me and I'll carry it with 0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.080 me all the time. But that's how I became the 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:55.040 moral Compass of Pinecings. If if we find ourselves at 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.840 a crossroads and we need to decide, you know, do 0:36:57.960 --> 0:36:59.960 we go down this road or that road, We're gonna 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.719 a consult with the compass to make sure that we 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:08.560 don't veer kind of from the north Star. Really some 0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:12.200 halftime reflections on Riggs is ninety nine days at Pinehurst 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.560 once again, Sir Nick Faldo, how can you look at 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.960 the room menu for the room service for it's bad 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.520 enough for two days in the row, isn't that when 0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:25.719 you like keep looking at tomato soup or should I 0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:29.399 have the prawns kiss? Ada? Okay, done that? And then 0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:34.800 you go to your Ahai tuna and your chicken and 0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.719 and and your biddest sound. And I see it. I 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.919 mean you've seen the seen the same menu for nine days. 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.840 What was he doing in there? Meet Sheila Wilson, a 0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:50.000 grade school teacher, child psychologist and bartender at the Pine Cone, 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:54.239 the mobile drink station that overlooks the Cradle. Well, I 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:57.080 mean one thing, I know. You know he's crazy and 0:37:57.120 --> 0:38:01.759 he does all. I love the fact, being an elementary 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:06.120 teacher myself, I love when he kind of switches gears 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.560 when he sees young kids, like we've got a lot 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.600 of local kids and a lot of members. The kids 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:14.560 are out here playing. He approached He approached him, you know, 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.239 every time there was a kid out here playing on 0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:18.760 the cradle. I love the fact that you know, how's 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.520 your gold, how's school? You know, stay with it man, 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:27.040 and that you know he's really kind of switched. And um, 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.680 I love how he approached the kids. Had that impressed me. 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.080 Pete Myers, the kid who took him out three and 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.560 two on a couple of cool anecdotes and what has 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:39.920 happened since his win. The Jonas brothers were on the 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.480 podcast talking about me, and I think that was pretty cool. 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.640 I got a couple of college letters. It was awesome, 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:53.920 and the whole process, it's it's just been an awesome experience. 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.600 Mike Pete's dad again. Yeah, So he he was. He 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.960 walked into this thing and so open minded. I mean, 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:03.480 I can't tell you how many people we would run 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.719 into who he gave his mobile number two and they 0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:07.480 would say, I texted him today and you know, and 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.120 he replies to them. And so it wasn't like this 0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.920 guy who just was too cool for school. I mean, 0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.600 he really kind of came and with an open mind 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.400 and it became a part of the fabric of er. 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.640 What Riggs did was superpotful and I think he had 0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.480 a good time while he was down here too. Riggs 0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:28.880 on his content the Cradle and proper credit. They deserve 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:33.799 proper exposure and proper excitement, right, And I think that 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.080 that's something that I'm able to convey, is that like, 0:39:36.160 --> 0:39:39.200 I'm not I'm not posting the stuff that I post 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.760 because I feel this deep obligation too. I I share 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:47.520 things in my life that I've experienced and say, holy ship, 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.399 this is so good, I have to share it. And 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:53.200 like the Cradle was something that I shared all the 0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.000 time because I just couldn't help it. I was like, 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:57.160 people the internet has to see this right now, like 0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:59.960 they won't believe and and so you're right, like they 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.920 he deserve that, and and the place really is that 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.720 awesome and it never gets old. One more from Tom Passionate. 0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.759 After the first two months, we began to understand his 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.920 nuances and yeah, we were able to get under a 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:13.960 skin and it became personal and it was no longer 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.040 the trophy hunt. It was no longer about what he shot, 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:21.120 what his score was. It was just about the people 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.360 that he met while he was here. And I love that. 0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.160 I really do love when I can tell people that, 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:29.279 you know, they're real people that are working here, who 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.439 are raising their families here, who have lives, who love 0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.120 Pinehurs just as much as they do. And when we 0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.359 can convey that, when we can share that, and when 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:41.360 you feel it, you really kind of begin to understand 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.480 what makes Pinehurs so special. And some people it happens 0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.200 in one day. Other people it may take a week, 0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.040 or it may take your third trip here. But at 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:53.799 some point, uh, you connect with Pinehurst in a meaningful way, 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:58.120 and clearly that's what happened to Riggs. In Part two, 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.319 which will drop next week, a lot more on the 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:04.440 tear jerking chemistry between Riggs and Pashley, Riggs and pine Hurst, 0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.640 and of course the pain Stewart putt to beat Kevin Kissner. 0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.399 Anybody would anybody who plays golf would kill for this chance. 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.920 You're on you know you're we had I think we 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.960 had our peak twenty six thousand people watching live on 0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:21.920 Instagram live. You know, the video is gonna get tons 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:23.759 of views, and we put the edited video out which 0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:27.000 I think it has six seven hundred thousand views something 0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.560 like that already on YouTube. 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