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Speaker 1: What's up, friends, and welcome into Fantasy Pros. This is

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Baseball Podcast live.

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Speaker 2: From First Pitch, Arizona Aircross. Can I get a clap?

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Speaker 2: Live shooty audience here? Thank you very much, thank you

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Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 1: Completely new experience because if you ever watched the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Pros videos that are out there, you see it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the cool overlays and I'm over here and

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Speaker 1: Arico's in another country or something like that.

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Speaker 2: But this time I can touch and feel.

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Speaker 1: Very appropriately though. Joe Rico here, we're live in person.

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Speaker 1: We've got some great people here. We've got some great

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Speaker 1: guest schedule to.

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Speaker 2: Come on with us.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to say the guests because things get

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Speaker 1: crazy here and let's just pray that they find their

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Speaker 1: way into into our panel here into our live podcast recording.

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Speaker 1: I'm Chris Welsh. Thank you guys so much for hanging out.

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Speaker 1: And I'm joined by the very very pocket full Joe Rico,

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Speaker 1: who if everybody a no took down an NFBC playoff contest.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to say the exact number, but he

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Speaker 1: might be like twenty plus thousand dollars richer.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna put your business.

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Speaker 3: That's everybody knows. Thank you, my friend. It's great to

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Speaker 3: be here. This is my fourth year coming out here,

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Speaker 3: and every year it's a slightly better experience, and just

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Speaker 3: like I'm doing more every year. Is my second podcast

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Speaker 3: of the day. A great time golfing, great time catching

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Speaker 3: up with everybody, And we have a hell of a

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Speaker 3: show plan for everybody tonight.

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Speaker 4: For our I think it's seven or eight thousand members.

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Speaker 3: Studio audience here tonight, so it should be should be

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Speaker 3: a great show for everybody here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just like, it's totally not convenient that we're

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Speaker 1: not panning the camera behind so we can see the

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Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people behind us.

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Speaker 2: Just trust and just believe you can hear it here again,

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Speaker 2: can I get a here? You can hear them.

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Speaker 1: So what we're doing on the show today is we

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Speaker 1: are tackling targets, and we're more importantly tackling industry targets.

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Speaker 1: And what a better place to do it than how

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Speaker 1: about the biggest baseball industry conference here at First Pitch, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Baseball HQ, where we have got

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Speaker 1: wonderful and awesome industry people here that are going to

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Speaker 1: walk us through who some of their favorite targets in

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Speaker 1: drafts are. Has anybody done any drafts or is prepping

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Speaker 1: for any drafts this weekend? In here?

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Speaker 2: Just curious?

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Speaker 1: Can I get fake Paul spor to come up here?

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Speaker 1: Please come right over here, role real quick. If you

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Speaker 1: guys don't know what we're talking about, yeah, you actually

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Speaker 1: know what's it right there?

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Speaker 2: That's perfect.

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Speaker 1: You can sit there, so this is not Paul Sporer.

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Speaker 1: If you are watching Paul Spores over there, actually it's

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Speaker 1: a very scary situation. If we can get a camera

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Speaker 1: cueue over to the real Paul Sport it's a Spider

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Speaker 1: Man meme, and then we come back here.

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Speaker 2: I asked the question, what is your real name?

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Speaker 4: My name is Andy.

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Speaker 2: Fake Paul Spores a little bit better, but but Andy,

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Speaker 2: we'll do that. You've done a drafts, You've done a draft.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually well, I'm prepping for the Best Ball Draft tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: You know, I've been doing rankings. I've been pouring over

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Speaker 5: the eighty data. So yeah, this is wonder I'm in

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Speaker 5: the mindset.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is what I want to know that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is what I want to know. Then, real quick,

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Speaker 2: what is the step.

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Speaker 1: What is the thing for you that identifies someone as

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Speaker 1: being a target?

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Speaker 2: What like it could be a simplistic process or it

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Speaker 5: For me, what I look for is basically, I look

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Speaker 2: Brian.

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Speaker 5: Brian wu is one of them. I think he is

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Speaker 5: not only one of I think a he has one

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Speaker 6: In the draft season. So like I look for guys

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Speaker 4: That's just an example.

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Speaker 1: That's perfect Andy. I didn't actually think you were real.

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Speaker 2: Fake Paul's for but you talked as much as Paul.

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Speaker 2: That was amazing.

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Speaker 1: You did a great breakdown that I thought we were

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Speaker 5: I'm also targeting Gavin Williams, and look out for.

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Speaker 2: Me, lookout for he really is he's still going. He's

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know what is actually?

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Speaker 2: Thank you and thank you fake pallor thank your.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, and the end, I'll I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: Gavin Williams might come up a little bit later. Air Cross,

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Speaker 1: just real quick? Can I get you? Can I get

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Speaker 1: you to come up real quick? I've ran a plus

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Speaker 1: for air Cross. Eric is not scheduled to come on

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 2: We just got in the term industry.

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Speaker 1: You can always be kind of thrown around, but I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get someone that was hanging in here, an

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Speaker 1: is the identifier for a target for you? How do

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Speaker 1: you target a player? If I was asking you on

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it all comes down to, you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm always trying to find, you know, a positive return

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Speaker 4: But you take guys, so.

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Speaker 7: HI have a when you get in the two hundreds,

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Speaker 8: Doesn't have to be like a massive you know, top

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Speaker 7: I love Dylan Bievers at his early ADP, which is

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Speaker 9: So that's kind of like what I look at, can

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Speaker 7: You know, not every pick will be a positive ROLI,

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Speaker 7: So Dondres like, I need a fill a position. This

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Speaker 7: But I think it's a lot of those guys in

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Speaker 1: That's perfect, that's perfect across everybody that's thankful. So the

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Speaker 2: Is what the target is.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to have people give you all the

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Speaker 1: as Joe Rico's maybe going to do here in just

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Speaker 1: on maybe helping you figure out what those identifiers are.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's someone like Joe Rico who's a big NFPC

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Speaker 2: If you didn't hear, you know they're winning.

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Speaker 1: Nature picking a player that's as simplistic enough for you,

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Speaker 1: we're going to tell you one stat sometimes it's you can.

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Speaker 2: I do it all the time.

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Speaker 1: I fall in love with like one thing about a

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Speaker 3: So I think we'll start with the pitcher and we'll

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Speaker 3: go pitcher hitter. I'm going with Cole Ravens, and my

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Speaker 3: I promise. But Cole Reagan just stands out because of

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Speaker 3: or anything like that. He's the SP sixteen seventeen and

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Speaker 3: so far in early rooms. But the stats last year,

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Speaker 3: we're just eye popping the era. Yes, on the surface,

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Speaker 3: four sixty seven is awful, every single one of the

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Speaker 3: ERA estimators was incredible, and two sixty three expected ERA

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Speaker 3: The strikeout minus walk rate blows you away thirty percent

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Speaker 6: With eight strikeouts.

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Speaker 3: So Cole Reagan's is the SP sixteen feels like a

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Speaker 3: streaming value right now. He feels like a top ten

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: I think help is sometimes one of the bigger questions

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Speaker 1: we have, like the development of what happened with the

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Speaker 1: Royals was huge.

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Speaker 2: He has the upside and that's sometimes the play.

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Speaker 1: So that's like a top five SP that you're getting

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Speaker 1: I'm very much into that. I'm very much glad you

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Speaker 1: I want you know, the second round player or as

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Speaker 1: many of the industry people are going to pick a

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Speaker 1: This player came up, and my ears perked because my

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Speaker 2: It's Nolan McClain. I love Nolan McLain.

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Speaker 1: This year, and I don't love the ADP's getting into

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Speaker 1: Obviously, this year forty eight innings, eight starts, rolled out

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Speaker 2: The six pitch repertoire. This was stupid as well.

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Speaker 2: Seven probably No, I'm sorry, I'm a dad. I'm a dad.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: Have you even hear the boost the moment? The movement

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Speaker 1: He had a thirty two percent RPM on his curve

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Speaker 1: Can I get cheers for Jacob Marcy In my take here,

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Speaker 1: You guys all know it's back. Jacob Marcy has looked

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Speaker 2: It was supported.

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Speaker 1: Baseball Savant look at his expected batting average at two

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Speaker 1: So I love me some Jacob Marcy. You also love

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Speaker 3: I have been in love with Jacob Marcy, not quite

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Speaker 9: That he's already so expensive.

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Speaker 6: He's already at.

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Speaker 3: And you do have a lot of confidence I do,

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Speaker 6: People will still be interested.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think he'll be a top one hundred

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Speaker 3: So if you're a more casual league player, normal, Clain's

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Speaker 1: Probably let me ask you a question, Nolan McClain or

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Speaker 6: Guilty, guilty, he's a good price.

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Speaker 1: chance he could fall apart. But the thing he did

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Speaker 1: differently than some of these other guys, maybe specifically like Bubba.

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Speaker 2: Chandler, he didn't have a rough patch.

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Speaker 6: Worries you.

446
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Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't, you know, what's the rough hatch going

447
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Speaker 2: to look like? But stuff is ridiculous. The stuff is ridiculous.

448
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Speaker 2: So those are our guys.

449
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Speaker 1: Those are targets, two pictures, two hitters.

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Speaker 2: That we both love. But we're not here to just

451
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Speaker 2: talk to you guys.

452
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Speaker 1: We have got a set of guests that we're very

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Speaker 1: excited about, and let's bring him up. We've got a

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Speaker 1: hitter and a pitcher and we're going to start with

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Speaker 1: the one, the only Frey Stamps.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if anybody would like to go track

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Speaker 1: down Ino Sarah's that would be awesome.

459
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Speaker 2: Just okay, I'm not saying he's coming on the show,

460
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Speaker 2: but if anyone would like to go track him down.

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Speaker 1: That would be sweet, em though, you know he's man

462
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Speaker 1: of the people. Frank standful from CBS Fantasy Baseball. Today,

463
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Speaker 1: we very stupidly got some Mexican food that did not

464
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Speaker 1: sit well with us earlier we drove down here.

465
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Speaker 2: We not a rough day, but we're gonna make it

466
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Speaker 2: a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: Frank, you guys did a great show that everybody should

468
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Speaker 1: check out.

469
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Speaker 2: You obviously do a great overall podcast.

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Speaker 1: And I'm very excited that you are hanging with us

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Speaker 1: to give us your hitter and your pitcher that your

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Speaker 1: targeting this year.

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Speaker 2: So I'm setting you up.

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Speaker 1: Who is your hitter that you are targeting for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 11: First, I do have to offer my heartfelts condolences to

477
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Speaker 11: Joe Rico and the Blue Jays for losing series.

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Speaker 9: It'll be okay, Yankees. I deserve that.

479
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Speaker 2: I deserve that.

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Speaker 9: But yes, Yankees, blue Jays, we go at it. We

481
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Speaker 9: have some fun.

482
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Speaker 11: Let's start with the hitter here and shout out James Anderson.

483
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Speaker 11: I think he's gonna like this one. Sal Stewart of

484
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Speaker 11: the Cincinnati Reds, yes twenty one years old, made his

485
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Speaker 11: debut late in the season, very very small sample size.

486
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Speaker 11: I will reference some bigger sample things that he did

487
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Speaker 11: in the minors, but only eighteen games with the Reds.

488
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Speaker 11: He hit five homers, eight thirty nine ops. The stackas

489
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Speaker 11: stuff was insane, ninety five point four average eggs of

490
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Speaker 11: blossy one, twelve point six max eggs blow, seventeen and

491
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Speaker 11: a half percent barrel rate, pulled the ball in the air.

492
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Speaker 9: Like crazy at thirty percent.

493
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Speaker 11: There he understands what he needs to do to get

494
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Speaker 11: to power hits in an amazing ballpark, to get to

495
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Speaker 11: that power playing in Cincinnati, great American ballpark, obviously really

496
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Speaker 11: impressive in the miners what he did this past season

497
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Speaker 11: one hundred and eighteen games, hit three h nine, twenty homers,

498
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Speaker 11: seventeen steals.

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Speaker 9: Nine to seven ops. Don't know how much I buy.

500
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Speaker 11: The speed completely, but really what you want here is

501
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Speaker 11: the high batting average, the potential for like a four

502
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Speaker 11: category contributor. Maybe he chips in like ten to twelve steals,

503
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Speaker 11: ten to fifteen steals, something like that.

504
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Speaker 9: And I love that he makes so much contact too.

505
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Speaker 11: It was just a fifteen point six percent strike out

506
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Speaker 11: rate in the miners this past season. I love that

507
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Speaker 11: the Reds Nucleus is also a bunch of other young

508
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Speaker 11: hitters too, So these guys are growing together. I mean,

509
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Speaker 11: they're really a young team all around.

510
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Speaker 9: They're pit their pitchers are pretty young as well.

511
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Speaker 11: But we've got Ellie daylor Cruz, We've got Nuwelvie Marte,

512
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Speaker 11: we got Sal Stewart. These guys are all kind of

513
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Speaker 11: growing and figuring things out together. I guess the one

514
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Speaker 11: flaw in his games that he is very aggressive at

515
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Speaker 11: the plate, and he does chase and he does swing

516
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Speaker 11: quite a bit, so he might not walk all that much,

517
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Speaker 11: but just in terms of making contact, hitting for batting average,

518
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Speaker 11: hitting ball extremely hard.

519
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Speaker 9: And where does he play defensively? That is another question

520
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Speaker 9: for him.

521
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Speaker 11: But I think he's just gonna hit so well that

522
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Speaker 11: they'll find somewhere to put him as a DH is

523
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Speaker 11: a first base. Yeah, the bat will play so well

524
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Speaker 11: that they will find a way to get him.

525
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Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask you, is and

526
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Speaker 1: it's not fair to do this, but is there any

527
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Speaker 1: Christian and Karnacion strand fear of, like us, anointing someone

528
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Speaker 1: with a position.

529
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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, I'm not but we're trying to have fun.

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Speaker 9: We're trying to we're having a great time.

531
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Speaker 1: We're having a great time, Frank, but getting down to

532
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Speaker 1: brass tacks, like they have a lot of guy you

533
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Speaker 1: did say, You're like, hey, they got a bunch of

534
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Speaker 1: young nucleus that Cam Collier is out here working at

535
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Speaker 1: first Base.

536
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Speaker 2: They had to strand they got steered. They've got a

537
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Speaker 2: lot of guys.

538
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Speaker 1: You feel confident enough that NFC adp early on is

539
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Speaker 1: like just outside.

540
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Speaker 2: Two thirty, so it's like pretty palatable. But like just

541
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Speaker 2: as a quick follow up, are you you feel calm

542
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Speaker 2: and he's gonna be able to hold down the spot.

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Speaker 11: Look, it's always a possibility with any prospect. I mean,

544
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Speaker 11: you know more than anybody that you know, someone could

545
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Speaker 11: come up and fail. And you know someone Christian Etcarnaccio

546
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Speaker 11: and Trend that I also liked quite a bit so

547
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Speaker 11: and another similarly aggressive hitter in Sal Stewart. It's always

548
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Speaker 11: a possibility. But I just think that he is going

549
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Speaker 11: to hit so well that he's gonna put himself in

550
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Speaker 11: position to have a spot. I don't really buy Spencer Steer,

551
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Speaker 11: although he's squeezed as much out of that bad as

552
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Speaker 11: he possibly could. Ao that was kind of weird, but

553
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Speaker 11: he Yeah, I think between first base and DH Sty'll

554
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Speaker 11: find a way to get his bad time.

555
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Speaker 1: There's like a cryptoconference here, so Sal Stewart coin is

556
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Speaker 1: going off right, Yeah, very excited.

557
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Speaker 2: We're not screaming.

558
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Speaker 1: You guys probably can't hear that, So all right, there's

559
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Speaker 1: the hitter onto you, Joey Rico.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Frank, we are going to hear about a

561
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Speaker 3: picture Ian Seymour. And there was actually kind of like

562
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Speaker 3: not a controversy today, but Bob Seymour was DFA by

563
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Speaker 3: the Rays and some people thought it was Ian Seymour,

564
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Speaker 3: so there was kind of like this controversy back and forth.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was actually Ian c Moore because

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Speaker 3: that would be ridiculous after what we saw from him

567
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Speaker 3: last year.

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Speaker 6: But walk us through why you're interested in Ian seymore pay.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So he finally made his debut with the Rays this

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Speaker 11: past season, and he looked really good. It was nineteen

572
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Speaker 11: games he got five starts in at the end of

573
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Speaker 11: the season, three sixty three ERA one a team with

574
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Speaker 11: just over ten k per nine walks, a little high

575
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Speaker 11: three walks per nine this past season, but twelve percent

576
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Speaker 11: swinging strike rate. He doesn't throw hard, but he's got

577
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Speaker 11: this funky delivery. He's got an awesome fastball change up combination.

578
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Speaker 11: I think his cutter does a good job of inducing

579
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Speaker 11: soft contact. He doesn't use his sweeper much, but when

580
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Speaker 11: he did, thirty five percent with rate, So perhaps we

581
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Speaker 11: can see that pitch a little bit more from Ian

582
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Speaker 11: Seymour put up big numbers in his minor league career.

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Speaker 11: I mean just across his entire minor league career. It's

584
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Speaker 11: a two to fifty three ERA one O two with

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Speaker 11: four hundred and twenty two strikeouts over three hundred and

586
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Speaker 11: forty five and the third innings. And I'm looking to

587
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Speaker 11: buy back in on all raised pitchers this season because

588
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Speaker 11: they're headed back into Tropicana Field, and Steinberger feel like

589
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Speaker 11: they played in this past season.

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Speaker 9: The strikeout park factor for that was middle of the pack.

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Speaker 9: It was fourteenth. Tropicicanda Field the strikeout.

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Speaker 11: Park factor from twenty twenty two through twenty four the

593
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Speaker 11: fourth best among ballparks during that span. And we know

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Speaker 11: that Tropicicana has a way of helping stuff play up

595
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Speaker 11: and just getting more strikeouts there.

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Speaker 9: It's a little bit tougher to see the ball in Tropicana.

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Speaker 11: So I'm looking to buy back in on any discount

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Speaker 11: we get on all race pitchers. I think Seymour is

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Speaker 11: probably going to be the cheapest, right I think he's

600
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Speaker 11: going outside the top three hundred in ADP right now.

601
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Speaker 11: So just a true deep sleeper, like lay round flyer type.

602
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Speaker 11: I don't even think you have to draft him as

603
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Speaker 11: one of your starters, even in a fifteen team league.

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Speaker 6: He's probably like.

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Speaker 9: One of your bench pitchers. And I love taking a

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Speaker 9: shot on his upside at.

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Speaker 3: That point, do you want race pitchers? It's a really

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Speaker 3: good call. Yeah, I like it a lot. He's one

609
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Speaker 3: hundred picks cheaper than McClanahan, and as of today, I mean,

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Speaker 3: give me seymore. I still don't trust them. I mean

611
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Speaker 3: maybe you could trust him, but I trusted him last year.

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Speaker 6: I mean last year was disaster. It was such a disaster.

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Speaker 6: You know, you can't fool me.

614
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Speaker 1: You can't get Yeah, fool me once for me once

615
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Speaker 1: you can't get fold again. That's fine, But I still

616
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Speaker 1: like me some Sea. Mcclann also like some frank stamful

617
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Speaker 1: Frankie stamps. We're buying Frankie stamps. Coin to the Moon,

618
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Speaker 1: Thank you, brother, all right, from one legend to another.

619
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Speaker 1: He's one of my dear friends. I love him deeply.

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Speaker 1: He is into Sirius from the athletics.

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Speaker 4: We talk about somebody else.

622
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Speaker 2: Freights and Barrels, all the podcasts, you know, Sarahs, you know,

623
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Speaker 2: everybody going, you know you're coming.

624
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Speaker 1: By the way, if we could have, I would have

625
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Speaker 1: just taken his bat speed talk he was doing and

626
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Speaker 1: bat metrics and just made that part of our show.

627
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Speaker 1: But we can't steal, okay, can't we steal? Okay, Well

628
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Speaker 1: then let's start to steal then, my friend. You know,

629
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Speaker 1: it's great to see you. You know, you're always the

630
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Speaker 1: talk of the town here. Everybody's always looking for you.

631
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Speaker 1: It's always a great time to spend time.

632
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Speaker 2: You know, is the life of party.

633
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Speaker 11: Man.

634
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Speaker 4: I love this. We again, it's so much fun.

635
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Speaker 1: These are my people, well, and you're one of ours

636
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Speaker 1: and we love talking with you. And you've got two

637
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Speaker 1: really really fascinating names on this list. When I started

638
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: to curate these from everybody, it was so interesting to

639
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: see the eclectic different versions of players, because sometimes I'm like, please,

640
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: don't everybody pick like Elliet of the Cruz and Bobby

641
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: Witt and everybody who's just went so far, I would

642
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: never expect that from you. But transitioning right into what

643
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: you talked about, this is definitely going to speak to

644
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Speaker 1: this player.

645
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Speaker 2: I was about to give it away, but I don't

646
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Speaker 2: want to give it away.

647
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Speaker 1: Your hitter that you're targeting this year is going to

648
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Speaker 1: open some eyes because the only thing I'm going to

649
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: say this is probably the player with the worst production

650
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Speaker 1: from last year that we're going to talk about on

651
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Speaker 1: this list, But you're going to sell it to us.

652
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Speaker 2: So you know what you got?

653
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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I think a lot of the work

654
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Speaker 12: that we do is in camping.

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Speaker 4: You know, we.

656
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Speaker 12: Are looking to understand things through the lens of oh

657
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Speaker 12: a guy like.

658
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Speaker 4: He has a slider like this guy, or he has

659
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Speaker 4: a fastball like this guy. So if I could.

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Speaker 12: Tell you that I have a guy that has the

661
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Speaker 12: exact same swing, the exact same bat speed, the exact

662
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Speaker 12: same plate approach as Junior Cameriniero and he that's what

663
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Speaker 12: you were going to say, Would you like would.

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Speaker 4: You like a junior Camerandiero? Would you like another junior Caminero.

665
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Speaker 4: It's from the left side, and we do have.

666
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Speaker 2: One listener that yelled at me.

667
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: This year the Fantasy pros listeners, a guy came on

668
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Speaker 1: a live stream and he went in the chat and

669
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Speaker 1: he stopped the chat and he said, you know what,

670
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: he's like, I got a problem. Welsh forced me to

671
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: draft Junior Camenaro this year and I was like, what

672
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Forty three later, I felt I

673
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about Yeah, we were, we worked out.

674
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Speaker 12: So the guy I'm describing as Jack Cagnam, and you know,

675
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Speaker 12: I think that you know, it wasn't a great debut,

676
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 12: and I'm not saying that he doesn't have anything to

677
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 12: work on. I think particularly it's refining the plate discipline.

678
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 12: He when you have like so much to give and

679
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 12: you're just a like a little puppy and you just

680
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Speaker 12: you just want to show.

681
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Speaker 4: Everybody you can do.

682
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 12: And you've got this amazing bad speed, and you've got

683
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 12: really good at ball, like handed ball, Like.

684
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Speaker 4: You think you can hit anything, and I think he did.

685
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: He hit mostly everything.

686
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Speaker 2: Can I answer me real quick? To do it interviewing

687
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Speaker 2: some of those things, so you keep going. But last

688
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Speaker 2: year in the AFL, he was here. Uh people probably

689
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Speaker 2: know some of the story. He I got this video.

690
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Speaker 2: It was ridiculous.

691
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Homer looked like he hit it a mile And this

692
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Speaker 1: was at camel Back Branch, and the stockcast data ended

693
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Speaker 1: up telling us it was like twenty or four twenty

694
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Speaker 1: five or something like that, and I was like, there's

695
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Speaker 1: no way.

696
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Speaker 2: Nobody moved.

697
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Speaker 1: I saw him two days later and I went to

698
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Speaker 1: him and he said, Jack, like, there's no chance that

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Speaker 1: Homer was four twenty five without hesitation, he went five

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Speaker 1: h three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, he's like.

702
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: I went in the dugout and I confirmed that was

703
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Speaker 1: over five hundred. So just to your point, like this

704
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Speaker 1: puppy likes him along ball and he wanted to correct

705
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Speaker 1: me immediately that the data did not have it, but

706
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Speaker 1: they're in dugout stuff, and so I just wanted to

707
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Speaker 1: add that little anecdote.

708
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Speaker 2: But keep going.

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Speaker 12: I mean, like you can do it with numbers that

710
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Speaker 12: aren't his fancy as the bat speed numbers and stuff

711
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 12: if you're not not as into those.

712
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: But like MAXIV, he hit a ball one hundred and fourteen.

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Speaker 12: The only people who've hit the ball more than one

714
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Speaker 12: hundred and fourteen of unqualified here's Lad Greer Junior, Aaron Judge, Ghanahau,

715
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Speaker 12: Sam kylesh Forward says, you can show him time.

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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, I want to be on that list,

717
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: and he does that.

718
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Speaker 12: With a I think really good you know, bat to ball,

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Speaker 12: and I think we have some numbers that suggest that,

720
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 12: like you know, his minor league swing decisions were better.

721
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Speaker 12: And then if you just look at Kevin Nyiro himself,

722
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 12: Kevin Yiro's debut was not amazing and he kind of

723
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Speaker 12: did the same thing. We swung at everything and he

724
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Speaker 12: didn't show the same power. And if you look at

725
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Speaker 12: Ken and Yiro's own decisions and Chase decisions, they improved slightly.

726
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Speaker 12: I don't think these are things like you can't change Havi.

727
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Speaker 12: Your bias is you know, Chase rape, you know, completely

728
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 12: over his, you know, but you can with.

729
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Speaker 4: Young players sort of dial it in.

730
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Speaker 12: And so I'm just asking, you know, swing it, you know,

731
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 12: two or three fewer ball outside his own a game,

732
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Speaker 12: you know, and it's just going to really unlock and

733
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 12: for what is worth, Like he hit seven homers, like

734
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 12: it wasn't that bad at the debute.

735
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Speaker 1: So also it doesn't feel like it, but twenty two

736
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: percentage like that, he feels like I think he feels

737
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: like Spencer Jones to people if you follow the prospects

738
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: like Spencer Jones, like loud Homers, and he.

739
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Speaker 2: Hit two seventy, but he struck out like this.

740
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Speaker 4: Forty here, like Spencer Jones.

741
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

742
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: It's like it is like, so it's really interesting and

743
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: compared him to the player we just talked about the

744
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: Sala Stewart two thirty one ap so they're right next

745
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: to each other, so you can play on the underlying

746
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: stats that really jump in.

747
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: I thought that was one of.

748
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: The most fascinating names on this list as an industry

749
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: target for someone that you know, someone like you that

750
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: is targeting into drafts this year.

751
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: But the hitters maybe even outdone by the pitcher Joe.

752
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 10: Yeah.

753
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Speaker 3: I have a theory that Wells chose me to select

754
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: the pictures so that he didn't have to try and

755
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: pronounce this name and maybe the first time you guys

756
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: are hearing this name.

757
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 6: So I'm going to let you know, break him down

758
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 6: for you.

759
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: Why don't you get a shot? All right, Yeah, let's

760
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: hear it. Let's hear it.

761
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 6: Tuyama.

762
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 9: I think that's it.

763
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, there you go, regular Tim.

764
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: I have a real hard time which show says last name.

765
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 4: For some reason, I just I get the whole emphasis

766
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: on the wrong Salavo all the time.

767
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: So yep, that sounds right.

768
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: That sounds like something you might do.

769
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: That sounds that sounds right, That.

770
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 6: Sounds like something.

771
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: But EMI a little bit easier last name to handle. Again.

772
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 12: The comp for me is, you know, Joe Ryan with

773
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 12: ninety five oh, and he touched one hundred, so sitting

774
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 12: ninety five touching one hundred, he could actually come here

775
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 12: and sit nighty six, sit night seven. He has a

776
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 12: twenty degree arm angle, which would be in the bottom

777
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 12: ten percent of the league right away. And if you

778
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 12: take his his vertical numbers from from Japan and you

779
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 12: compare him only to people with his arm angle, he

780
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 12: the comps are Joe Ryan and Luis Castill, And if

781
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 12: you do it with all the comps in it, it

782
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 12: would be a one.

783
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: O two stuff plus fastball.

784
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 12: So that doesn't sound amazing, but just having an above

785
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 12: average fastball. And then oh, his splitter is is really good.

786
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 12: It's the year of the splitter. We're going to go

787
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 12: splitter crazy this year. And he throws the y Savage

788
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 12: reverse slider.

789
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 6: So I don't know.

790
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 12: If that's necessarily a good thing, because it's a weird thing.

791
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 12: It's the slider that has armside movement instead of glove

792
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 12: side movement, but it is like a low slot y Savage,

793
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 12: So it's something like a low sloty Savage or a.

794
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 4: High v low Joe right.

795
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Speaker 1: Which most interesting about that to me is what's the

796
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: biggest knock on Roki Sazaki this year?

797
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: Fastball stinks. Fastball stinks. That's the problem.

798
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't really have that problem, and.

799
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: That you're selling us on a guy with with splitter,

800
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: reverse Savage and a plus stuff plus on a fastball

801
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, touches into the high nineties, had

802
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: a one in Japan last year one hundred and sixty

803
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: three innings as well, so I mean we can stack

804
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: some innings.

805
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: It's a really fascinating.

806
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: Name who at the time of us recording it has

807
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: not signed a lot of the guys you're posting right now.

808
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 1: But I see why he's a target, and he's actually

809
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: going inside just inside the top three hundred of NFBC

810
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: drafts right now, So imagine when he signs.

811
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 4: I think that number will keep going up.

812
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's one of those situations where I think there'll

813
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 12: be more value actually in earlier drafting holes. Well, you

814
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 12: can get him now and he might start scraping overpriced

815
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 12: by March.

816
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: What is overpriced.

817
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: Right now?

818
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 12: I have n't thirtieth sps in all sps. Wow, So

819
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 12: there's a lot of room left. But if he starts

820
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 12: going ahead of the Schlittler, you savage guys that we've

821
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 12: seen pitch in Major league ball games in America and

822
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 12: have great success, then I think it's too far.

823
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: Like if you're taking him over Miserowski or something, I

824
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: think you've gone too far about Nolan McLean. Yeah, I

825
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: think I have all those guys ahead.

826
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 12: So I have all those I have like a hype

827
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Speaker 12: seven Okay, it's like you know, it's basically like twenty

828
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 12: three to thirty and then E might is like the

829
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Speaker 12: end of the hype sevens.

830
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Speaker 2: I do not get hype listened to, you know, talk like.

831
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 4: But I mean there's the other things that that im

832
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Speaker 4: I did.

833
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 12: You know, there's some command concerns early on in his career,

834
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 12: but if you look at his walk rate, it went

835
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 12: from fourteen percent to eleven percent to ten percent to

836
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 12: seven percent. I'm going to buy that as growth and

837
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 12: legitimate growth. I guess there's if there's risk that one

838
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 12: is the risk is is some walk right regression, and

839
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 12: then just the risk of the guy who's never played

840
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 12: in base in mejor league baseball.

841
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: So hey man, we've.

842
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 12: Seen so many guys come over from Japan and it

843
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 12: can go and port right over that.

844
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty excited.

845
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 12: Maybe maybe my rank will go down when I'm when

846
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 12: I keep looking at it and playing around with the names.

847
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 4: But that's where he's right now.

848
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: I was just throwing, like, when you're tooling your teams together,

849
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Speaker 1: what do we talk about before?

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Speaker 2: Glue guys. Glue guys are great. Guess what glue guys

851
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Speaker 2: get allow you to do do stuff like this.

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Speaker 1: They led to allow you to take some chances on

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Speaker 1: cagne own or am. I like, I'd like that. That's

854
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: the way I want to construct stuff. I want to

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Speaker 1: have some some big shots, and I want to have

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Speaker 1: some guys that kind of protect me from when I

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Speaker 1: get crazy.

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Speaker 2: I get crazy with.

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Speaker 4: The yolo yo yo.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, yoyo.

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Speaker 13: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 14: one hundred gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, in New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia.

886
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: You know, you know, all right, we're not done. We

887
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: still got a couple more here. I'm gonna let Joe

888
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: introduce our next because Joe might have a little connection

889
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: with this guy.

890
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 6: Real Paul's four? Please stand up?

891
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 2: Is that the real line?

892
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 6: Prove it?

893
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: Ok I identify myself.

894
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: How can you prove that you're the real we?

895
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I know how to prove it? What is the

896
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: average amount of hours? Thank you? Actually that could What

897
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: is the average amount of.

898
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: Hours if I were to text you it would take

899
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: to get a return text?

900
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 9: Just just take it.

901
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: Just take a guest, someone in the audience. Would you

902
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: like to take a guess? What would you say? Okay,

903
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: that's a real pulse for that is a real pulse

904
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: car That is exactly him. Paul, I love your brother,

905
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: Love you brother, man. How many chepsticks do we have

906
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: with us? Three?

907
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: That's just a real pulse for that's there here all right.

908
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: You guys already did the show earlier today. Paul sport

909
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: sleeper in the bus kind of a big deal, great mustache,

910
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: a graded and you got some players for us, and

911
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: what is special about this He also stole one of

912
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: Joel Rico's players. So me and Paul are the sandwich

913
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: of stealing the players that he wanted to talk about.

914
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let you jump into this hitter. I

915
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a high rising name, very

916
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: popular player. Absolutely love this pick. This entire side of

917
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: the table loves this guy. So why don't you hit

918
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: us with your draft target for twenty twenty six?

919
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 10: Addison barger Man just kind off that hot playoff which

920
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 10: I really did, like, you know, you have a strong

921
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 10: debut two forty three average, one oh seven WRC plus.

922
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 10: They don't jump off the page, but they're solid. Twenty

923
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 10: one homers, seventy four ribs, sixty one runs, four steals,

924
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 10: and five hundred and two played appearances. Bunch of numbers,

925
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 10: but all pretty good in about five hundred play appearances.

926
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 10: And then the sixty eight excellent playoff plate appearances including

927
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 10: that huge lefty lefty Grand Slam that comes after an

928
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 10: ugly August and September. And so while it is the

929
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 10: sixty eight plate appearance sample, I mean not like August

930
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 10: in September is a huge either. So if we're gonna

931
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 10: get mad at him about that, I love seeing him

932
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 10: on the biggest stage, pop off there and kind of

933
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 10: end the season on a high note.

934
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 9: Dual eligible third now field. That's a nice little convo there, and.

935
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 10: Just loud skills, not just with the defense, which I

936
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 10: do think helps on a fantasy perspective because it guarantees

937
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 10: them playing time, but just blood red on the bat

938
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 10: speed and hard hit power, power drives everything, right, That's

939
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 10: just a great foundation. It's it's the velocity of hitting,

940
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 10: you know, and so it just kind of builds in

941
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 10: a level of quality for him.

942
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 9: I think he should be at least the starting third

943
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 9: basement or right fielder.

944
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 10: We got a pencil in at third base right now

945
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 10: as the resident Blue Jays guy.

946
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: Is that where he's going to be here? Or does

947
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: he have a chance to be in the outfield.

948
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 6: I hope that we signed so many players that he's

949
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 6: relegated in to avenge role. I hope that's fine.

950
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: I think as of today he's probably platooning third with

951
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: urn In Clement.

952
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 10: Yeah. Probably, And in fact that leads me to my

953
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 10: next point. Well done, some platoon risks there for sure.

954
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 10: I mentioned five hundred and two played appearances. I think

955
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 10: that's covered in the price though. It was the third

956
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 10: sixteenth to third basement off the board with an adyp.

957
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 9: Of two to eight for Barger. And listen, this is

958
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 9: kind of where.

959
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 10: The platoon crushers go carry Carpenter's two six and frankly,

960
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 10: if he just repeats Carpenter's twenty four, which you know

961
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 10: was player Raider one to nineteen or twenty five, excuse

962
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 10: me this season that carry Carpenter just had which was

963
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 10: worse than Barger's, so I think Bargar could be worse.

964
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 10: And it was only four or sixty four played appearances

965
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 10: for Carpenter. So if he basically just emulates him at

966
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 10: that price point, that's fine.

967
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: And that's a downside there.

968
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 10: Again, that was player Rader one to nineteen for Carpenter

969
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 10: this year, the hitter, So you got to add in

970
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 10: pictures there and it would be around that that ADP

971
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 10: that'll kind of return your value. I like a guy

972
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 10: where having kind of a mediocre output there would just

973
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 10: kind of get up my draft price back.

974
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: I think there's a ton of upside here.

975
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 10: I think he's got forty home run power if you

976
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 10: can figure out anything against left.

977
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 9: He's not figured them out, but be like a high.

978
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 10: Six hundreds, low seven hundreds ops as opposed to low

979
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 10: six hundreds.

980
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 9: But even as just a carry Carpenter type, he can chase.

981
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: Thir That's exactly that's about to salesman, what's the worst

982
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: case scenario. He's just Toronto's Kerry Carpon copenter their.

983
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 10: Base outfield, h chase down thirty and we'll hold and

984
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 10: we'll see where it goes from there.

985
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 9: The prece is honestly shockingly low.

986
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: He's going below Dalen Lyle, Anthony Soon, Matt McClain, David.

987
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Lyle, I almost you know, I almost picked Dalen Lyle

988
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: to be on the show, So we can't have.

989
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 6: That's until I don't like him. Barger is hitting grand

990
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 6: slams in the World Series off. Okay, Jason Dominguez is.

991
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: Going, We're not going to have any Dylan Lyle. I'll

992
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: uh slander anything. Let's kind of put that out here.

993
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: There's some I don't understand some of them.

994
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 2: I agree that's a great spot.

995
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 10: I think there is probably some room to move up

996
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 10: if there is some helium there. But I don't know

997
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 10: how Hyatt's going to get everyone's going to stress to

998
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 10: put two and risk, which again is a fair point.

999
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 10: There are reasons stacked against him because there aren't a

1000
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 10: bunch of flashing numbers.

1001
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: It is really just kind of wrong power.

1002
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 10: It's okay, played skills, he's like just below average and

1003
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 10: walks to strikeouts at point three point three eight is

1004
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 10: le average there. But I just think that you kind

1005
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 10: of bet on the couns sometimes, right. It doesn't take

1006
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 10: a lot of adjustment here. Just be a little bit

1007
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 10: better for Barger and he can have a huge season.

1008
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 10: If he hits thirty, you're loving everything you're getting. But again,

1009
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 10: even if he only hits twenty and is pretty decent,

1010
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 10: you pay pick two hundred.

1011
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1012
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a big craps guy. So the reference

1013
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: was first, I'm not a big craps guy. You know

1014
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: you got a picture?

1015
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: What do you got?

1016
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 10: Oh? I got a lot of pepio and my step

1017
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 10: held is what I got. He essentially repeated his strong

1018
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 10: twenty twenty four season sixteen percent stragout minus walk twenty

1019
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 10: first among qualified starters as one hundred and sixty two

1020
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 10: innings one inning per game, and that's despite Saint Pete's

1021
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 10: he's actually better on the road if you believe that.

1022
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 10: You know, everyone's worried about Saint Pete's, and I know

1023
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 10: we're excited about guys going back to the Trump, and

1024
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 10: I totally agree with that with regards to Ian Seymore

1025
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 10: and all the race pictures, but it might not benefit

1026
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 10: Peppio that much if he doesn't fix up the road

1027
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 10: a little bit. That said, he has a one oh

1028
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 10: seven whip at the Trump, one twelve at Saint Pete's.

1029
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 10: I'll take that extra five points there all day. One

1030
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 10: fifty six ADP another price point that I'm just a

1031
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 10: little bit shocked.

1032
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: Being that low.

1033
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 10: He's Pitcher sixty nine, which is pretty nice. I didn't

1034
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 10: count sp versus RP.

1035
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 9: Hey, Greg Ambrusch, just can we get that split?

1036
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: Dude, what are we doing?

1037
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 9: It's twenty twenty five, Give me a break anyway.

1038
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: He's just.

1039
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 10: Sandy Sandy on guitar, Tredy Savage, Shane byberging just ahead

1040
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 10: of him, and then Ivaldi, Horton and Edward Cabrera going

1041
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 10: behind him. Like that's a pretty good spot to be in.

1042
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 10: I think he's just as good as the three going ahead,

1043
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 10: and I think he's definitely better than Eavalde, Horton and Cabrera.

1044
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 10: I think they all have merits of their own. That's

1045
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 10: not down on them. Again, that's just because again say

1046
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 10: it with me. Got a lot of Pepio in my

1047
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 10: Stepio put.

1048
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 2: It on his shirt.

1049
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: Cost relative to you, Joe d and Seymour or Pepio

1050
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: how much you cost?

1051
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 6: What was it again?

1052
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 2: Around thirty free.

1053
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 6: And Pepio one fifty four.

1054
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: I probably would take.

1055
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: Seymour just because he's essentially I'm not gonna I'm not

1056
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: gonna say he's free.

1057
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 6: It's too early to start saying people are free in

1058
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 6: November already. He's very inexpensive.

1059
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: Pepio is as well, but he also had kind of

1060
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: a poor finished Pepio which might it doesn't.

1061
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: Wear me a ton, but given that huge.

1062
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 6: Price discount, I would take seymore of that one.

1063
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: You'll put Pepio in a Stepio on an OTP card.

1064
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I gotta get broad away and make sure for me.

1065
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get it exists already like that, there isn't one.

1066
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: They're just gonna be spraysed up this year.

1067
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 6: Your stuff.

1068
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: He's super creative. He just did this. Joe, come on, hasn't.

1069
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 6: It been a thing from me? It was you.

1070
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: Guy.

1071
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: It's ericson Special, from the uh, from the fake, from

1072
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: the fake puls for to the real, real pull for

1073
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:13,759
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1082
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1083
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1084
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: working on twelve hour techts next time. Between the twenty

1085
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,759
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1086
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: gonna bring down the house with Bubba and the bloom Out.

1087
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god, is that did his music just hit?

1088
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 4: Shadow Boys?

1089
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: Casey Bubba in the Big Golf Tournament. The Big Pie

1090
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: is kind of a superstar run. Herew the golf going?

1091
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: Did you win? No?

1092
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 6: No, no, my Coast.

1093
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: Bloomfield Yeah, the Bloomfield Invitational pretty bad?

1094
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Bubba.

1095
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: Uh, this is funny because this is a this is

1096
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: a full fan It's a great way to end it

1097
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: because this is a full Fantasy Pros run.

1098
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 6: Because September.

1099
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the I mean I should be out of it because.

1100
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: That's how it worked this year.

1101
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: These two the yeah, yeah, the September hosting. We do

1102
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: have a piece of relative here with a September hosting

1103
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Pros. Bubba and the Arico as they call it. Bubba,

1104
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: you're going to give us two names. You kind of

1105
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: you You were going off script too on this one,

1106
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: so this should be interesting.

1107
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: I did not expect we were gonna have.

1108
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: Two Marlins on the must draft targets out of the

1109
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: industry this year.

1110
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: But shout out to Chris Towers.

1111
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: You are going to go down that road and you're

1112
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Marlins going inside the top one

1113
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: one hundred, So break us out with your hitter that

1114
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: you're targeting.

1115
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 15: I was kind of mad it was the top one hundred.

1116
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 15: I felt like to be a little outside of the

1117
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 15: box here. But for those that no catchers matter. So

1118
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 15: we're talking goose up in here, a Goostin Ramirez. Everyone

1119
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 15: used to love jtr JT real Muto because once he

1120
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 15: do steells base is he hits for average?

1121
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 6: This guy doesn't, but he is for power. The goose

1122
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 6: is good.

1123
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 15: He's legit a twenty twenty upside catcher, Like we haven't

1124
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 15: seen that in a long time. In one hundred and

1125
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 15: thirty six games, you get twenty one humbers and install

1126
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 15: sixteen backs he had through thirty one. Yes, not desirable,

1127
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 15: but hear that while striking out less than twenty percent

1128
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 15: of the time, Like, that's really impressive for young ballplayer.

1129
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 9: His first standing the pigs, twenty three years old, not

1130
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 9: striking out.

1131
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 15: Still crushing baseballs, which is what you want to see.

1132
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: Again, it's a high ADP.

1133
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 15: But if you're talking about a guy that can help

1134
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 15: you across the board eleven percent barly forty seven percent hard,

1135
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 15: he's doing everything you wanted to play. You just hope

1136
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 15: that that two point fifty three babbit and get closer

1137
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 15: to it as normal like say three hundred bat of

1138
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 15: Now you're talking about a two fifty hitter that's gonna

1139
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 15: hit twenty twenty, and that's just elite. Elite from the

1140
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 15: catcher's position. We've heard a lot of talks to this

1141
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 15: week already talking about the NFC Paan. We talked about,

1142
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 15: you know, you don't want dead weight at any position.

1143
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 15: Guys will wait on catchers, not always dead way, but

1144
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 15: likely dead weight. A twenty twenty catcher is not dead

1145
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 15: weight no matter what he gets in my opinion, so

1146
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 15: that elite's option at the catching positions.

1147
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: It isn't a systematic change with the marl I mean,

1148
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: like we talk about Marcie Kyle Stours is just a

1149
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: dude Ramirez, Like I feel like they got put in

1150
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: weird spots and maybe we'd be like hyper focused on

1151
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 1: what they've done with their pitching, but the hitting is

1152
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: taking a turn too, just from like not someone we

1153
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: not an organization that we like sit and talk about.

1154
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: We're like, man, they do awesome stuff, like we don't

1155
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: do that with hitting.

1156
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: But there seems to be something and I don't know,

1157
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: is there anything with that where you look and you're

1158
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: just like, man, there are multiple players that we want

1159
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: to target in a breaking I mean, he's kind of

1160
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: a unicorn I suppose in his in himself, but there's

1161
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: something about what the team is doing and developing.

1162
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 15: They're doing great stuff. Like you mentioned Marcie, who's awesome.

1163
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 15: I've heard some people say he's the next Piecy good

1164
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 15: or bad, but that that could be I'll take at

1165
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 15: least get good love there.

1166
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: Stowers is awesome.

1167
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 6: They trade.

1168
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 4: I think Norby's actually pretty good.

1169
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 15: Stay healthy, like they got pieces like I've had luckxhury

1170
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 15: on Chris Towers preview the Martins with me last year.

1171
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 15: When I left that show, there was a lot more

1172
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 15: optimisman I have with that team because if they weren't

1173
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 15: up yet, they're close, like especially the pitching. Some guys

1174
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 15: that he named that we didn't even see them all

1175
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 15: at least a full go this year.

1176
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 10: I don't know.

1177
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, don't be jealous for it.

1178
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 15: Don't be jealous. But the Marlins, you know, we always

1179
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 15: want to say they're onto something. And this is where

1180
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 15: Chris mo w Turn is pull your ears. They always

1181
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 15: find it went sell it, or like they win one

1182
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 15: and then sell it so you get the win the

1183
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 15: one at least, But they are building something that is

1184
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 15: for sure. There's a lot of young talent that's close

1185
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 15: that looks like they could be productive.

1186
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: One more follow up on that, is there any hesitation

1187
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: to taking a catcher on the top one hundred. I'm

1188
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: pretty against it, and I mean, well, I know, I

1189
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: mean you'd write the catchers in the Fantasy Black Book

1190
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: shout out with ya. I get that, but like there's

1191
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: no hesitation, there's not one hundred catchers there is.

1192
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 6: I get the hesitation.

1193
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 15: It comes down to are you comfortable building something else

1194
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 15: later on? For the they say the opportunity, cause I

1195
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 15: guess for what you take an early catcher for, like

1196
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 15: cal Rawley's amazing. I'm not taking cal Rawan all this.

1197
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 6: Year at that press?

1198
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 2: The chance? Yeah? How many? But how many other catchers?

1199
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 4: William?

1200
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 15: My debate because I think you're getting a discount on

1201
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 15: a guy that is an average source.

1202
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 6: William, Oh yeah, respect his name.

1203
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: Here and then uh and then then I get a

1204
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: button with the catcher thing.

1205
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 2: I apologize you ever got your love with the catchers?

1206
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: I had a sore spot.

1207
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 6: How much longer do you have here?

1208
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: That is fine, thanks to everybody that was the show.

1209
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 15: So I think there are some viable options that that

1210
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 15: just comes down to what's your comfort, Like Ben Rice

1211
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 15: is going to play every day.

1212
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 6: You don't get that out of the catcher.

1213
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: So that changes Things' Ben Rice going on the top

1214
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: one hundred.

1215
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 9: He's going at seventy seven right now.

1216
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think man, right, that's what I'm saying.

1217
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, that's just like so there's there's a there's viability

1218
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 15: to a catcher in the first.

1219
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't playing moving around and stuff in the

1220
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: stolen basis.

1221
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: I just I poke a little bit at the bill

1222
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: and the catchers that yeah, not a catcher guy. But

1223
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 1: all right, it's a it's a good pick, Guscia Ramirez,

1224
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: I buy it, all right.

1225
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna bring it home with a pitcher. And he's

1226
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 3: somebody who was very popular at the beginning of last

1227
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: season in the spring. Doesn't play Holmes, not Ryan Wethers,

1228
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: who we.

1229
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 6: Got both them.

1230
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, this is one where I keep telling myself I

1231
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 15: shouldn't do it, but I'm very interested in Gavin Williams.

1232
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 16: It's a combination of things, like you look at his

1233
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 16: ADP and you're looking at a guy going at the

1234
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 16: wonderful one forty seven right now, So he's not costing

1235
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 16: you a fortune.

1236
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 15: They got a picture finally, made the thirty one starts.

1237
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 15: He said, people like them coming into last year. They

1238
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 15: liked them coming to the season before and couldn't get

1239
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 15: healthy like that was a pain. So we got the

1240
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 15: thirty one starts, which was we got the hundred and

1241
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 15: sixty eight innings, which is huge.

1242
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 6: Now you a point to the three or.

1243
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 15: Sixty areas great, the Sierra four to three eight, you

1244
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 15: can you get out for more. It's the whip with

1245
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 15: with Gavin Wllims that people will point to and as

1246
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 15: a one two seven, Yes, it's very tilty for guy

1247
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 15: that roster Gavillians.

1248
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 9: It is very tough.

1249
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 6: And this is something we have to.

1250
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 15: Try to is the takeaways from the offseason to try

1251
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 15: to find any anything valuable out there. You don't take

1252
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 15: every split for granted, but you look, Gaviloums improved as

1253
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 15: the season went along. Is where I'm going this second

1254
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 15: half in a two point eight compared to three to

1255
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 15: seven zero in the first half. When you go deeper

1256
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 15: into Gavin Williams Arsenal, we talked about that whip problem.

1257
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 15: Dude had a whopping one four to three whip in

1258
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 15: the first half, one zero.

1259
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 6: Five in the second half.

1260
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: That's called improvements, folks.

1261
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 6: That's very impressive.

1262
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 15: Uh, you gotta He had an eighteen point four percent

1263
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 15: kaa walk for to nine percent in the first half. Again,

1264
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 15: it's small samples, I get it, But there's twenty six.

1265
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 15: He's gonna be twenty seven. He finally had his first

1266
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 15: healthy season. The quote unquote prospect pedigree has always been

1267
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 15: there with Gavin Williams. I'm optimistic, Like I love Tanner Bibby,

1268
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 15: that's kind of have been frustrating. I hope Gavin doesn't

1269
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 15: go that direction, but I do like the appeal of

1270
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 15: Gavin Williams, and at that price, I'm willing to take

1271
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 15: a chance as my SP two SP three that maybe

1272
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 15: takes that bump for the next level.

1273
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: As my residents NFBC Big Winner, you're now our target

1274
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: here is Gavin Williams the target for you.

1275
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 6: I like Gavin Williams.

1276
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: I'm not over the moon with him, but I'm more

1277
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 3: convinced based on seeing what he did in the second half.

1278
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: He improved across the board. The velocity is in the

1279
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: good range. I think doctor Dave here is he has

1280
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 3: saving lives ninety six to six is pretty pretty solid.

1281
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: The stuff has improved over the last three years. Overall,

1282
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: I like him in the second half, over the last

1283
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: fourteen to fifteen starts of the year, it's hard not

1284
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: to be impressed with him.

1285
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 9: And that early price is not prohibitive at all.

1286
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: One fifty one sixty is she said something like that,

1287
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 3: I can be convinced pretty easily.

1288
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: What are we pointing at?

1289
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 6: That's his ADPs.

1290
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can be convinced the same ADP as Trevor

1291
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: Rodgers when he got to pepeels close by. It gets

1292
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: a discussion to be had draft to catch it right

1293
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: outside the top one hundre. Can we still be friends?

1294
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: Of course?

1295
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 6: I will always be a brother from another mother.

1296
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 4: Dude.

1297
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 6: That's right, that's right.

1298
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: We do go wait back, casey bubba Casey bubba babba.

1299
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: So it's a super unique experience we get to do

1300
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: because we'll do these videos on Fantasy Pros and we'll say,

1301
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, hey, who's the industry drafting, and we can

1302
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: look at data that we have on Fantasy pros.

1303
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: We have them here. It's a super cool thing to

1304
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 2: be able to do.

1305
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: It's definitely different probably viewing experience for anybody watching on YouTube,

1306
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: but having everybody here getting the experience getting the reactions

1307
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: is kind of the fun thing. And these are gonna

1308
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: continue to evolve. You know, We're going to continue to

1309
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: go in as everybody does their work. It's into drafts,

1310
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: listens to some of the really crazy smart people here

1311
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: finding who they're drafting. And it'll also be about the

1312
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: developing side of our teams. You know, what we start

1313
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: to build and how we get some of these targets.

1314
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: You think we uncovered the names, you feel I feel great.

1315
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. It give us people

1316
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: like you said, a whole different kind of experience. Industry's

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Speaker 1: Favorite Players is something that we talk about for six

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Speaker 1: months whenever there's no baseball. We immediately started suit as

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Speaker 1: the ADPST. Who is the industry targeting? I heard it firsthand,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, I'm here every year.

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Speaker 6: You're here every year. It sounds like the start of

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Speaker 6: a new tradition.

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Speaker 2: Mart, it's a brand new tradition.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, let us know who your

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Speaker 1: targets are for this year. We'll give away some swag.

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Speaker 1: We'll give a I got, I got some coats. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I'm gonna randomly pick a few people. I

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Speaker 1: got some hat codes and maybe you could use it

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Speaker 1: for shirts and stuff. One person on YouTube, make your

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Speaker 1: comments and your favorite players. We will rocked us. Was

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Speaker 1: that fake or real?

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Speaker 2: Paul? I can't tell which one.

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Speaker 1: But one of the Pauls is going to get a

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Speaker 1: code and maybe you could too.

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Speaker 2: That's watching.

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Speaker 1: you to the amazing audience and hung with us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you to a Rico. We

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Speaker 2: are out for now. You guys are a fantastic one.

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