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Speaker 2: Scott.

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Speaker 1: You're not the host. You've been like a regular on

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Speaker 1: It's so weird doing these and succession and then they

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Speaker 1: come out later like we've done four podcasts since or

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Speaker 2: This is four. This is four yep, Bird's bird. Well

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Speaker 2: he's only been gone like three days this week, but

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Speaker 1: More than three days this week than last week.

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Speaker 2: But we didn't do any podcasts next week. Yeah, uh

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to be fair, I did ask that we leave

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Speaker 1: Well we did not do that, and next week is

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Speaker 1: I cannot go to Illinois next week because we crammed

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Speaker 3: What we can I mean not next week, but we

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Speaker 2: This is better if we're going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: John Wellborn episode, but we're going to talk about You're

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Speaker 2: hunting Tennessee and his hand, You're hunting Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: You're just always the bridesmaid over the bride. Huh for

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Speaker 1: the bride, I just guide from my family there you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but to be fair, so like she grew up

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Speaker 1: Well, Mike has now killed more than anybody at this table.

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Speaker 1: But how far is it from Nelson? Buddy of ours

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Speaker 3: It's fifty acres to sixty sixty acres. Sorry, yea, it's

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Speaker 3: We were just sitting there. It was slow, but Monday

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Speaker 2: But were you in a buddy standard like a double seven?

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Speaker 3: But then after that they shut down, so Nelson saw

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Speaker 3: There is big deer there, like I killed. I shot

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Speaker 1: Mean about three years usually, which Nelson is in full

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Speaker 1: panic about redoing everything after one year. That doesn't sound

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Speaker 2: In two years for him that he hasn't.

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Speaker 1: No, but they did a big overhaul this year.

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Speaker 3: That's five deer because John killed the three does in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Well of course too for him, that's a better that's

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Speaker 1: Fired up, especially because Watkins had text us right before

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Speaker 2: How does he cause you guys gutted her out there

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Speaker 1: He wants the heart. That's the first thing he wants

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Speaker 2: I could see tries doing the like Luke Skywalker and crying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He loves it, man, Yeah, he's fired up. We came

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Speaker 3: Where do you think they're You think they're bedding close

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Speaker 1: I think they're betting on this the way Enchanton is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that Tennessee deer.

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Speaker 2: It was a workout.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was one hundred yards straight up ours

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Speaker 1: We just I drove right over to I watched her

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Speaker 3: She jumped off right before.

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Speaker 3: It's it's still down there, down there, dude, I'm not

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Speaker 1: What kind is it?

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Speaker 2: It's just so yellow home, but it's like it's part

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Speaker 3: There's no way it's gonna be a good picture. We

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Speaker 2: that's crazy. It was, well it should be. Talk about

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Speaker 2: I just was taken aback by how large he was.

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Speaker 1: six seconds, then yeah, absolutely, why would you not train

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00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 1: that way? CrossFit we do a lot of movements that

441
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,879
Speaker 1: are unnecessary for some of those guys especially, and then

442
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu as well, Like you've got to have a

443
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,240
Speaker 1: good range of motion in your hips and shoulders and those,

444
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: but you got to be strong through those range of motion.

445
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: You have to do those types of things, So yeah,

446
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: why would you not if you know for certain you're

447
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: doing something, Why would you not prepare in a specialty

448
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: in a special fashion. And so I think with what

449
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: we do is we kind of stay fit year round

450
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: or try to bring up different you know, build a

451
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: hedge is what you would say of fitness, and then

452
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: we specialize a little bit, like try to do broad

453
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: and inclusive fitness and then leading up to six eight weeks,

454
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 1: still do some of that fitness, but also add in

455
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: the staremaster, add in rucking, add in sled pushing, those

456
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: types of things. Well, if you do those things year

457
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: round and you continuously just train those single modalities or

458
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: single movements, I think one you're gonna have some burnout.

459
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: Two you're gonna have injury because you're doing the same

460
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,879
Speaker 1: repetitive thing like running is one of the most repetitive

461
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: and highest injury rates out there. Yeah, you just it is.

462
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: It is what it is. And so if we can

463
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: strengthen through a full range of motion with a squad,

464
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, build some strength in the legs, you do

465
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: other movements, you know, picking up sand bags, odd objects,

466
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: getting your body out of that like perfect form, perfect

467
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: you know healthy. I don't want to say healthy because

468
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: you know we were talking eshually we had pad in

469
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: which you'll see later like picking up a sand bag. Yes,

470
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: we want you to have a pretty a flat back

471
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: and as much as you can, but at some point

472
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna get out of a flat back. You're gonna

473
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: twist a little bit.

474
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're out in the mountains, you're not always

475
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: moving in a perfect form, perfect ranges.

476
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: Of motion, no but ground. But if you have good

477
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 1: range of motion in your hips, in your knees, those

478
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: types of things you're getting up and over some blowdown

479
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: or you know, getting those are the main the main

480
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: things you're getting over falling. Yeah, you've got to be

481
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: able to like I know that very well. The stronger

482
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: you are if you do fall, the less likely to

483
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: have an injury like upper body guys get you know,

484
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 1: well why do so much upper body? The stronger you

485
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: are upper body, the more like protect did you're going

486
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: to be in a fall. The year that I you know,

487
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: remember I had that shoulder injury. I fell more time

488
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: than I could remember because I couldn't put my arm

489
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: out and so I would just eat the fall right

490
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: or just I couldn't balance.

491
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: Like Scott with the camera.

492
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: I fall ten times a day when maybe fifteen.

493
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's several.

494
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I always save the camera.

495
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: I always save the camera. Yeah, I always say the

496
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: But I did that that one year when my shoulder

497
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: was really bad. I fell Like that was an odd

498
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: odd amount of falls that year because one I couldn't

499
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, do the quick motion to like balance or

500
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put my hand out. I would just eat

501
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: the fall. And so yeah, to that topic too.

502
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: I think one of the things you guys talked about

503
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 2: on that podcast that is beneficial to a lot of

504
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: people that maybe more so that people that have been

505
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: doing fitness for a little longer just to keep it fresh,

506
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: but also they'll have to do this to make more

507
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: like progress is the periodization over the course of the year.

508
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

509
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: So like let's say let's say your goal is in September,

510
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna hit your archery outcont or October or rifile

511
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: cont whatever it is, and you've peaked out your conditioning

512
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: for that hunt. Well after that hunt is over, now

513
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: you can move into more of the off season strain

514
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: the strength back up that you may have lost a

515
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: little bit of it in the conditioning phase getting ready

516
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: for You're always gonna do all of the things, but

517
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: you're emphasizing different parts and I think that was a

518
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: like interesting thing you guys touched on.

519
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I also think you know, leading up to that, Yeah,

520
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: you need to have that volume, you need to have

521
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: the time on your feet post that you can get

522
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: a ton of benefit by increasing the intensity and doing

523
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: a little less volume. Let the body kind of heal

524
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 1: up from that phase of doing a ton of miles

525
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: and a ton of stepping and a ton of sled pushing. Granted,

526
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: you know those things don't necessarily beat you up as

527
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: much as if you were pure running every day running

528
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: with a ruck, but you know that volume over time

529
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: will take a toll on you. So let's build it back,

530
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: get back to you know, full range of motion on stuff.

531
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: Build some strength because like you said, you've lost You've

532
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: probably lost some strength. Yea, I'm doing it right now

533
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: and losing weight. Yeah I'm doing Yeah you lost weight. Yeah,

534
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm literally doing that right now. So my aerobic conditioning

535
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: was so good during hunting season, but I think I

536
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: definitely lost strength. So now I'm still doing workouts so

537
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't get completely deconditioned. And of course, in like

538
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: six weeks we're rowing for a full day, but at

539
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: the same time really emphasizing for.

540
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: The next maybe twelve weeks. Uh strength work strength, h yeah,

541
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: but we'll Yeah, both got to build the base of

542
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: the pyramid so we can go taller. You know, it's right,

543
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: Build back better, build back better. That'll be That'll be

544
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: me next you twice.

545
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: You work out at all last week at some hunting camp.

546
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: So did you take anything with you or did you

547
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: go to stuff there? Yeah?

548
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 3: We have a full full gym and the born.

549
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: Nelson's drive there every day. I just feel better, like

550
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: the times that we went to like Ritz's place and

551
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: we sat a lot.

552
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: I will say the Christmas tree cakes and stuff though

553
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: it was full of.

554
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: Fact any Gapins said you could do that.

555
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: Hey, this is the best time, dude, when those Christmas

556
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 3: tree cakes come out. Oh, put them in the freezer.

557
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: They're so good.

558
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 2: Andy Gapin's going to sue Bird for defamation. Defamation because

559
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: he's going to give him a bad name.

560
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying this one.

561
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: There wasn't like any offset.

562
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: So dude, you'd loved Elk camp this last time. There

563
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: was a lot of snacks billings, was there?

564
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? We Well, also Rich did he did, like the

565
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: like the pre order so that you can just show

566
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: up and all your stuff's there. And I feel like

567
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: there was a balance. But I feel like you kept

568
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: it a little like healthier.

569
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: I tried to make it a little healthier.

570
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: Well, he sent even though you put it at I put.

571
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: It in rifle, and somehow Walmart still reverted back to Cookville.

572
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so all our groceries were in cooked. So we shopped,

573
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: and I think it was it went a very different

574
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: direction shopping in person because by the time we got there,

575
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: like you're tired, hungry, everything sounds good.

576
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: I just want to get it over with.

577
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

578
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: We did hit it in and out on the way

579
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: out and the way back, that little celebratory out in

580
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: and out.

581
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we hit in and out, in and out. Yeah.

582
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: Billings is first run in within and out as well.

583
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah it was yeah.

584
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So yeah, I feel better, you know, like even

585
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna I'll probably go out and sit here

586
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: this afternoon just for a little bit. Hunt why he

587
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: says it's not a good day, which means usually is

588
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: a good day. Any daylight Bucks I've ever had is

589
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: like ten percent movement day.

590
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: We were shooting a podcast on Tuesday, and while we

591
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: were podcasting, you had.

592
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: A buck one another one come through an hour later.

593
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: Granted the second one wasn't a shoot of the first one.

594
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I would have shot at least an eight and maybe

595
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: a nine.

596
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: So it's tough stuff.

597
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: Tough crowd.

598
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: Angela's and Illinois right now and seeing one her buck

599
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: and it was he didn't have a shot at the buck.

600
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: And I think today's his last day.

601
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 1: Oh, today's last day.

602
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well back oh ever to hear, yeah, he's got

603
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: to get back for this weekend to dang. Yeah, So

604
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: that's tough for him if he doesn't kill anything he needs.

605
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: That though he might he's been on some really good hunts. Yeah,

606
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 1: he's never been like on the hunts that we've been on.

607
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: He's been on one of them really okay.

608
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: But we didn't know what we were doing. Yeah. Now

609
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: I feel like we need some redemption at.

610
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: That place maybe in a long time.

611
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I need such a good spot in Colorad.

612
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that we know it, and I think

613
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: it's great.

614
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else bird, I don't think.

615
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: So. Do you know, are you gonna shoot something this fall?

616
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: Is it your turn? Now? Like with Micah do you

617
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: get to.

618
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I Pattie really wants to.

619
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: Shoot a buck. Oh yeah, he said, She's like.

620
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: She's so she wants first.

621
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: I want shoot a dough.

622
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: So our first year is going to be a man.

623
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: You're you're last in line.

624
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happens when your dad's.

625
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: Got well, I don't get the hunt and my kid's

626
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: six months old, so I'm really screwed.

627
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: You can hunt here anytime, yep, I can.

628
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: I can sit here anytime.

629
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: You can sit here anytime.

630
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: I can look at Yeah, I I've seen at least

631
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: the year every time minus yesterday or two days ago,

632
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: depending on how the next two weeks go for me,

633
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: I might be here trying to kill a doe and Trice.

634
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: I've gone through all my sixth year. I killed last year,

635
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: all of our meats about gone.

636
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: Trice is pretty good luck. Actually, surprisingly, I don't know

637
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: how I've killed multiple times with Trice.

638
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: This is Rich trying to say like, hey, you should

639
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: have Trice it with you. He's good luck.

640
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: No, but I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and don't

641
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: don't have Trice it with you. I only uh killed.

642
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: The funniest thing is the only time I've hunted with Trice.

643
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: He screwed up the hunt, but he didn't actually do

644
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: it on purpose.

645
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: He did so we were didn't even notice him. Well,

646
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: he deer's coming in, but the deer didn't alert, didn't

647
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: do anything. He say he was when the wind shifted.

648
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: I think the sneeze made him alert to sneeze.

649
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: He that thing came, it was still coming in when

650
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: he sneezed.

651
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: Anyway, I missed that deer.

652
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna bring it up. It's fun shot just

653
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: under it happens. Yeah, all right, what else we got

654
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: we got?

655
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: I think that's it.

656
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: Hopefully, me and you'll be going in December in a

657
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and then maybe Illinois random trip depending

658
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: on the weather.

659
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: Are we going to be into uh in December with Nate? Yes,

660
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Speaker 2: we should try to record a podcast there, but actually

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Speaker 2: this time a little eas around a white tail hot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We ran out of time that hole, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: did not. We wouldn't get back till nine. Some people

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Speaker 1: wouldn't get back till ten.

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Speaker 2: I also was likely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Bill would get up at four thirty

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Speaker 1: every morning when we weren't getting up till five. We

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Speaker 1: didn't have to leave the house till six fifteen, six thirty.

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Speaker 1: And it's a wide open like cabin, and we were

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Speaker 1: upstairs in the loft and Bill would flip the light

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Speaker 1: on at four thirty and the whole cabin would just

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Speaker 1: have light in it and he'd just shuffle around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he was on Michigan time, in his defense, Eastern time,

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Speaker 1: So it was five thirty for him. No, it was

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Speaker 1: six thirty because we're, oh, yeah, you're right, because we

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Speaker 1: had two hours. Yeah, So but he didn't care. No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't get too all right, Spike Camp, this is

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Speaker 1: like episode sixteen or something. All right, Peace,