WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Will Dallas Advance? 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.760 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:17.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.000 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:32.320 Star in Frisco, Elliott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:37.600 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and we are here getting 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.680 you set for a divisional playoff matchup that is now 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:45.760 fast approaching at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on Saturday night, 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:50.600 seven fifteen, Dallas time, five fifteen on the left coast 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.320 the Cowboys in the Los Angeles Rams, we were awaiting 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:58.960 the arrival of Mickey Spagnola as usual, the grand arrival 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.880 of Mickey. We've got Brian brought us here. We've got 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.360 Rob Phillips here, and this is really our last installment 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.119 of Talking Cowboys as it is for this week because 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.080 it's travel day. On Friday, Mickey and Rob will be 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.160 a board that Cowboys Charter. Now. Brian will be along 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:21.000 tomorrow to bring us yeah some stuff on Friday, Yeah, 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:26.240 eleven am. We've got myself, Nate Newton, Taylor Stern and 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.360 then Lindsay Draper. So it's kind of a it's kind 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.560 of an all star cast of various programs that we 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.480 have here on our platforms. Those left Behind, Yeah, those 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.600 left Behind? Yes, kind of be your Cowboy pregame show. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.080 Yes yea. So we bring that up to point out 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.080 that this is our our real, our final preview on 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.440 talking Cowboys of the divisional playoffs, make our picks at 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.200 the end of the show, our picks to click, and 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.200 so forth. Bet are on that pick to click. By 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.720 the way, guys, what I do with Sean Lee? Why 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.800 did I do that? Because Sean we are wholly one 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.440 of the better players, were lined up for this team, 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.960 and all of a sudden, could Chun Lee be a 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.800 I'm sorry, Bill, I'm taking no no. Could Seaun Lee 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.160 be an inactive? I don't think so. Man, oh boy, 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:11.880 you both gave me that look like Rob, give me 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.240 that look like Brian. Please? Well, could he be an 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:17.760 inactive if you're trying to get guys that if you're 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:20.639 struggling with your receiver's health. Okay, and we're sure we've 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.440 talked about this now. I guess it's not impossible because 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.040 he was in inactive a couple of weeks ago because 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.000 of numbers. Yeah, but that was because he was only 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:31.920 going to play a small handful of plays, although he 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.000 only played four defensive snaps. It was that the Tampa 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.320 Bay game, Yeah, yeah, and then he that was so 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.760 that was an important game. Yeah. But the reason why 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.040 he was your pick click was he got twenty four 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.880 snaps against the Giants. Was building back up, No, and 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:46.920 he had a great game against the He had a 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.239 great game against the Seahawks the first time. I felt like, Okay, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.920 here's an opportunity for him to kind of jump in 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.240 there and be a part of this. But well, I 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.160 think not to be one limited snaps, limited snaps by 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.640 the defense overall. Right, right, So, and I think one 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.680 of the things you look at too, And obviously with 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:08.840 the injury issues on the offensive line, you've got to 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.280 have extra you got to make sure you've got enough 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:14.520 personnel there, and the injury issues at wide receiver as well. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:18.840 But also I think when you every week, when you 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.400 put your game day roster together, you have to anticipate 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.160 what if so and so gets hurt. What I mean, 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.400 even someone who's not nursing an injury, and so you 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.919 want to have Sean Lee there in case. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.359 And I just know I don't see it a guy 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.280 of that quality in a playoff game. Yeah, even if 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.880 you don't have that last week, Robert, I know, I know, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:44.320 I think I also think that his mere presence on 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.440 the on the sideline is impactful. You know, he'd be 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.440 there even if he's not suited out. But you know, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.000 I just think he has too much of an influence 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.560 on this team that as a leader on this team 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.200 and so forth that I mean, it would I think 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.520 it would come on too. Okay, we have to have 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:07.800 these other guys available more so, Yeah than him, it'd 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.280 be a last straw. I think you're trying to take 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.000 Sean Lee's helmet away. I was, I was, I was, 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:15.840 I was trying to figure out away Mickey, because you know, 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.120 we've got into that yesterday about you know, what's going 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.760 to happen with these receivers, what's going to happen with 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.080 the tight ends, what's going to happen with the offensive lineman? 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.480 Can you afford to go into a game a little 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.600 lighted offensive line? Can you afford to go in especially 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.320 with what's going on with Cole Beasley. I don't think 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.400 this team is out of the woods on that one yet. 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.400 I really don't and you know, I think that they 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.839 need to as a veteran players is and as much 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:44.520 as you know, you could say, okay, well he doesn't 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.599 need practice reps. You know there might be something more 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.000 there that we need to think about. Well, but then 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:55.039 there's an inactive Yeah, gyro wins an inactive. Yeah, you've 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:59.040 got two guys on, a rookie linebacker and a rookie 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.400 defensive lineman inactive. That's four already. Quarterback is quarterbacks five, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.440 so David Irving is six. So I don't think it's 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.960 really hard to get there if those guys. Indeed, and 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:14.320 it didn't sound good yesterday about Beasley and Jarwin goes okay, 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.400 you can't go yeah, all right, so give us give 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:18.839 us an update off the top, because that's much different 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:23.440 than what we've had yesterday. So yeah, I'm during those 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.039 two guys did not practice again. Yeah, and you know 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.560 it was starting to look like, okay, they're trying to 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.320 get him to Saturday, right, right, And then when they 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:36.360 don't practice two days in a row, Um, you're thinking 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.000 yesterday at least limited because today is kind of a 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.520 lighter practice, right, So yeah, I think you start worrying 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:48.120 about the those two, especially when the h A came 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:54.360 out on jar one high ankle. Yeah, yeah, so that's conservative. 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.400 I don't I think Beasley's gonna be there. I'm worried 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.360 about him, Mickey, I'm dance with Mickey on this swell. 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.279 I'm I mean, I so did he'd do something again 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.479 later in the game. I think it's just been an 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.480 ongoing thing. Well, it was kind of the same same thing, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.239 but it was different than what he dealt with earlier 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.080 in the season, what he's still dealing with. That was 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:16.880 more of the foot. This is more of the ankle. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.240 It's the same foot altogether, and I think, yeah, it 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.520 may be adding up on him, you know. And and 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.080 this is it's not a short week, but he didn't 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.640 have the benefit of if they played the Saints another 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.800 extra day to try to get ready. So we'll see. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.120 I mean, he's a guy I think could not practice 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:39.360 this weekends, no question, But it may take it all 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:40.839 the way to game time. I mean, it's kind of 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:46.080 a foot ankle at this point. So yeah, I mean, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:50.600 the only google, the only good sign I saw yesterday 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.240 at least both of them were out there on the chords. Yeah, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.719 uh no, it's good points good point. So that's that's 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.920 a step in the right direction. Yeah, but I think 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:05.280 from my understanding, there's there's some worries. And let me 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.160 ask you guys, this this is coming for our periscope folks. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.760 If Lee doesn't dress and something happens to vander Esh 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.720 like we saw in the Giants game, would would there 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:18.120 be a riot? Do you think there would be a 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:21.480 riot of fan riot? Joe Thomas get in there. Yeah, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.040 I mean, that's that's kind of and that's what I'm 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.160 talking about. Okay, what if something happens either one. Yeah, 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.160 and Jason did explain some of the Sean Lee decision 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:34.680 with the four snaps. You know, they had twenty two. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:35.920 I think I said this earlier in the week. They 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:39.480 had two defense twenty two defensive snaps, some three and outs, 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.720 and the flow of the game didn't really dictate it 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.160 for for those two young linebackers to come out of 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.800 the game. And then in the second half they rolled 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:50.560 with the young guys. But if he dresses, and I 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.240 think he will, I'd be surprised if he didn't. I 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:58.120 would expect more than four snaps. That that was Robert shocking. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.800 I did too, And then you know, last week. I 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:02.960 I'm acting like I'm some kind of expert here sitting 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.600 there talking on the radio and saying, oh, watch Sean Lee. 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.560 Sean Lee's, Shawn Lee's is Shaun Lee's this? And then 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.680 you know, all of a sudden, that's totally fair. He 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.320 is Sean Lee. I mean he is, and he is healthy. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:15.680 Is he enough to play? Yeah? He yes, I mean 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.280 he's he. Am I making too much of this? Am 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.640 I making too much of what Shaun Lee is? Now? Nicky? 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.240 In what respect? Am ill? I am? I am? I seeing? 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.559 Don't throw dirt on Shaun Lee? Is that right or wrong? Not? Wrong? 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.760 He could still play? Yeah? Absolutely, But I think you know, 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.160 it gets to the point where you see it's rolling. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:42.560 Why why change? Yeah, you know, no, that's fair. Fair, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:47.440 And you know, I think they they need him. You 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.360 would have to get a gun out to get his 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.679 helmet away from him. Well, and the other part of it, 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.400 it's just the end of that way at the end 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.640 of the season, is you also want But yeah, even 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:02.000 like the Tampa Bay game, Okay, they wanted to make 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:06.160 sure that he's ready for the postseason. They're clinching that day, right, 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.719 you know, and they and they wanted to make sure, Well, 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.720 it's the postseason, it's you know, and I thought that 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.400 last week, Bill, Yeah, I thought, well he was, but 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.520 Mickey's right there, but the opportunity He's right, Yeah, that 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.400 the young guys are playing so well that you're like, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.800 if you know, when you do take them off the field, 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.040 it's noticeable. We got some concrete proof about how well 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.280 Layton vander esh has played this season. He didn't make 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.080 the Pro Bowl, but he got the higher honor to 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.000 be an All Pro. Yeah. That that is as big 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.360 a compliment as you can get. And that shows what 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:40.560 he's done, by the way, Yes from the AP, I 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.720 believe really yeah. Yeah. So like Schyler's voting on that, 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.439 I think he has a vote. Good for him if 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:49.040 he if he got him elected, good for him. So 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:50.960 is that a higher honor? If the media is voting 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:56.080 for it, it's considered a higher it's considered one. It 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:00.640 may somewhat be a more knowledgeable one. Yeah, think about 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.439 think about the players that you know win the players 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.320 I want. I want the coaches to vote on one. Well, 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:11.839 they do have, it's a coach slash player ballot. But 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.280 then there's fans, there's fans involved in that one though, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:18.920 But not that it's not what matters. It's it's it's legit, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.480 or fans can help you into voting you or fans 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:26.800 with fantasy football, I think people watch, especially the skill guys. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.040 I mean they watched these players. Yeah, but there's too 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:34.599 much biased you mean, biases far for your guy. Is 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.240 if you're a fantasy football follower, yeah, even no, I'll 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.480 have a Votsburg if you're voting about those Pittsburgh writers 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.920 they line up. If you're voting for the Pro Bowl 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.320 is yeah, yeah, you may be knowledgeable, but you're going 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.800 to vote with strict stats. I've kind of feel like 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.280 that these fans watch these guys and though that san 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.079 Diego sen it might I say, seen it. Charges You've 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.280 got a pretty good receiver Keenan Allen, you know, maybe 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.400 not watching the lineman as much. No, but you know, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:07.800 but that goes for players too around the league. Oh 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.920 no, no no, people, how about Pro Football PfP or whatever? No, No, 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.360 how about that. Maybe they said that that Tyron Smith 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.839 was the best tackle in football. Didn't give up? He 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.640 did Pro football, sure did. Woods was not a fan 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.079 of them the other day on Twitter? Oh no, he 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.280 shouldn't be. But they had the top front sevens in 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.960 the league and then Dallas wouldn't even the top five. Yeah, 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.240 that's yeah, it doesn't seem accurate. Yeah, there were some 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:40.040 There were some teams. I meant say, though, what do 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.440 you say, dude, what do you say when when when 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.240 an organization comes out and says Tyren Smith's the best 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.600 tackle in the league, are you gonna disagree with him? 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.200 Or when they said are you gonna agree with him? 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.080 And say, wow, maybe they got one right here, or 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:52.920 when they said Byron Jones was the best corner in 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.800 the league about mid season, So maybe they're fifty fifty. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:02.120 You know, maybe it's mister fifty fifty. Too bad Aaron Jones. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.080 You know, we had Everson Walls on our Cowboys insight 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:13.640 and he's he's not concerned at least publicly about Byron Jones. 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:16.040 He was critical of him at the end of the game, 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.720 the Seattle game. He didn't know what he was doing 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.720 at the end of that game. Figure that one out ourselves. Yeah, 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.079 did you ever not on rods dropped the ball there? 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.600 But I need to get that one taken. But he 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.120 was looking at it like he just can't let a 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.679 guy run down the field, like like what Byron did. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.800 He was critical of Byron been one play though, Mickey, 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.079 has it been one player? We started to see we're 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:43.600 starting to see some cracks. Well, I know that not 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.840 every corner. Can I know they make they throw for 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.000 five hundred yards in this game. I get it. I 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.160 get it. The two guys from the Rams have twelve 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.720 hundred yards receiving. Yeah, so that doesn't mean every corner. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:13:01.800 And there's no question. Thank I've got to say, thank god, 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.319 he got hurt the lead. You know, it's the league. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.200 He's had a Yeah, he's had a really good year. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:07.880 I mean it's a big thing with Everson. You know, 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.640 Everson intercepted passes in his sleep. Yea. And so when 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.319 he sees the guy making the Pro Bowl without any bicks, yeah, 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.600 I mean it's gonna But but the league is different 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.040 now than what it was when Everson played too. There 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.160 aren't interceptions across the league like there were in the eighties. 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:28.200 So talking about the human log again on he's getting 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.560 some airtimee Man. Welcome to the Welcome to the party, folks. 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.640 It's only been seventeen weeks of the Human Log. Good 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.000 for him. Yeah, but see, everybody's late to the party. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.320 Oh that's what I'm saying, welcome to the party. Mickey 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.480 was grumbling about this in the locker room yesterday. It's 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.680 like all of a sudden, Oh, look at every's talking. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.880 We're talking the human log. He doesn't like the LA 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.600 folks coming out here and asking Antoine Woods questions because 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:55.600 we've been doing it for but it's a big story. Yeah, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:57.960 that's why he's you know, he's getting a lot of play. 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.160 But they were really doing their job. They would to 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.760 notice team like we did in training camps, right right 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.480 down the road. They wouldn't even have to take a 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.160 no we were playing ride to Dallas to talk to it. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.400 They could have just gone with the Ventura Freeway. I 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.520 was saying, who's the idiot fighting Travis Frederick there, That's 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.280 what I was saying, who's that idiot? You know I'm 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:20.560 telling you, Jerry Jones, Jerry Joe, you were right, You're right. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.320 When I was talking to Clancy Pendergrass, Yeah, he comes 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.000 walking by and and Clancy said hi to him, and 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.600 I said, who's that guy? Yeah? And he goes, that's 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.360 my guy, and I go, what do you mean? It's 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:36.480 your guy. He goes Southern Collie. I love him. He goes. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.600 This guy can play. I don't know what happened, what 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.400 happened in Tennessee. I mean, oh, let me tell you what. Hey, 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.040 we all put on the two we have the two 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.040 stupid pills and a cup of gatorade and say that 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.320 all the time. I mean, he was stupid pills. Yeah, 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.200 he was, he was. He was waved injured in Tennessee. Yeah, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.080 and that and that kind of tells you that they 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.360 wanted to me kind of keep him around, and then 0:14:58.400 --> 0:14:59.840 they and then they got rid of him after the 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.120 guy the injury settlement, right, yeah, because it was May. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.560 It was late May when he signed. Right. Sometimes you 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.520 just need to go to the right coach. Sometimes you 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:11.320 need this right system, the right system. You need lay 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.760 a three four don't Yes, they do. He fits. He 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:21.080 is a Rod Marinelli player. Just motor up the field. See. 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.400 This is this is why, this is why for the 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.400 draft show when we start talking about one techniques, this 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.800 is why we should never talk about a one technique 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.080 technique being drafted high here because he will go find 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.200 a human law, sure he will. He'll go find Antoine 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.520 Woods and he'll go and that will be his his, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.760 and that will be what Rod Marinelli and Christopher Chardon 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.320 will say. We don't need to we don't need a 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.640 draft a Vita vea we need. We just need Antoine 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.400 Woods or who is the guy in the Frederick draft 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.880 where they passed everybody thought they should have picked him. Oh, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.640 the guy in Minnesota, Sharif Floyd, Floyd Floyd. Yeah, he 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.480 was more with three Yeah, yeah, exactly. So Jerry, Jerry 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.840 see him and he goes, hey, I see you out there. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.840 Don't let up. Yeah, and Woods goes, I don't know 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.920 what that means. And I'm going, oh, that's that's pretty 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.760 bold to tell the owner you've never talked to before. Yeah. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.840 So the next day I said, well, I got to 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.920 go talk to this guy. And this was before the fight, 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.400 and it might have been it might have been the 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.200 I can't remember which was first, the fight or the 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.440 goal line when they put him on the goal line 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.320 to fight. The fight was first because he got him 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.480 the goal line reps right, and he did the worm 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.280 crop made the tackle and I asked him about that. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.280 So we were talking and I said, okay, go I said, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.520 I'm keep an eye on you. And he turns around 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.080 as he's walking off, looks at when he goes don't blink, 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.120 and I'm going, oh, this guy's pretty cocky for somebody 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.040 I thought was a camp body and bow and behold, 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.200 we've got T shirts now, don't blink. That's his motto. Man, 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.960 he lives by it. Yeah. And but the thing about 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.880 him is he was He started as a true freshman 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.560 at USC. Tells you a lot out of high school exactly. Yeah, 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.080 at that position, especially at that level. Yeah. Oh no, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.800 USC has had some defensive lineman. Just go through the 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:14.040 history that he's kind of inner city la, right, he 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.160 is where he's Woodland Hills Taft High School. Woodland Hills 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.919 can't send no. Woodland Taft is known to produce some 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.520 athletes out of that. I recognize that. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.359 So but and that's when I when I looked at 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.840 his biodur in the preseason and I saw that, I said, 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.760 and that's where I and having seen him stand up 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:39.600 to and challenge Pro Bowl offensive lineman, I'm like, Okay, 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:43.800 this this guy's got something. No, he's an idiot. You 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.800 know you were you're enough off center to play nose 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:51.320 tackle or but he also had enough ability, um as 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:55.199 a teenager to start at USC. That's I think that's impressive, right, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:18:00.440 that's impressive. Yeah, um, okay, So but Jarwin you think 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.560 is not looking good. I'm worried about that was late 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.560 in the game that he got hurt. Yeah, just kind 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:10.119 of hearing some things on Jarwin and it sounds like 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.639 a very significant injury, like Mickey is talking about with 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.280 the high ankle. But just kind of visit with some folks. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.800 They feel like that Jarwin's going to talk himself into 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.080 playing in this game, that he's going to find a 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.960 way to saddle up and when they get to the 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.440 warm ups and stuff that, you know, tape it up, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.080 do what you have to do, treat it whatever, and 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.640 I'm gonna go play. And that's kind of where that's 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.320 And I think that's the most positive thing you could 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.400 say about a young guy right there, that he realized 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.199 how important this is. You know, I think Cole Beasley 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.159 understands how important this is too. But we'll see if 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.480 his injury keeps him from playing now, at least with Beasley. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.080 Tavon Austin looks like he's Yeah. I talked to him yesterday. 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.159 He said I'm getting better and better. Yeah, but you 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.159 got somebody who can put in the slot there that 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.520 kind of plays that position. Cooper can play in the 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.159 slot too, If Cooper can go in the slot also, 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.320 But then somebody he's got to play outside. Um. From 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:07.640 the tight end standpoint, that's it's hard. I'm sure that's 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.200 why Jarwin's looking at it and saying, I gotta help 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.359 those guys out. They're down to two tight ends. Well 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.480 then what do you do? Can wit and be ready 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:19.200 by tomorrow night? Well, he sure he could clear Saturday night. Clear. 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.320 Let me ask you this though, if the playoff teams left, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.400 if Dallas were to try, if he if Dallas were 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.280 to have to, if they put him through Waivers, who's 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.840 left is philadelph Philadelphia has got a worse record than Dallas. Right, 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.280 as far as the playoff teams that are left, the 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.560 only one, Yeah, so they would they would be the 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:40.840 only team would can maybe, Well, okay, you'll see if 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.280 somebody else would put it in a plight. And would 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.720 he really have to go through Waivers? Yes, he really will, right, Okay, 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.680 let's say you don't. Let's say the Saints beat the Eagles, Yeah, 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.840 Cowboys beat the Rams, right, I mean, I mean, I 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.680 mean Titans Cowboys have on the roster right now three 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:04.400 three three if okay minus Darwin too, right, and they 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.320 have a they have a emergency, they have a tackle 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:12.520 that plays is their thirteenth personnel. Yeah, So the NFC 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:19.280 Championship game next week there, Yeah, there were a minute. 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.800 Don't the other teams get to participate in the waivers? 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:24.320 Yeah they do, Yeah, they do. Not just the teams 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.760 that are playing, right, But no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.000 no no no. When you're out, you're out. So who 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:32.560 would have first claim? You could claim him for the future. 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.280 So if the Eagles get beat, who would have first claim? 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.879 If the Eagles got beat Dallas? Well, Dallas is the 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:43.640 one putting him on waivers. Yeah, but then cults say 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:48.159 the Colts got through. You know Colts have but Colts 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.480 beat You would anybody claim him? That's the question. No 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.760 one's gonna No one's gonna claim him because he knows, 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.639 they know he's not playing for anyone. But they can 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.800 which Sean Payton claim him in an NFC champions the 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:07.440 key from Dallas? He would absolutely Sean Payton two hundred 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:09.679 thousand dollars by the way he took our idea. I 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.080 think you guys talked about that rolling the trophy in 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:16.760 there with cash. Who did that? Sean Payton that he 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:22.040 rolled the Super Bowl trophy twenty seven thousand dollars cash 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.520 in their locker room, just like what were He goes, 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.920 we talked about this, He's listened to talking. He goes, yes, 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:33.320 he really is. He goes, you want this three blanking games? Yeah? 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:37.000 Win three games? Yeah I missed that. Yeah, Yeah, that 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.320 was a big deal yesterday. Yeah, everybody's on the on 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.560 the things. We stopped this nonsense. Okay, we got it. 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:47.879 We'll stop the nonsense. If you've just seen Jason Garrett, 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.160 he was kind of like he was going with the nonsense. 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:54.200 Let me let me uh well, we're up against a break, 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.119