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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips here, and this is really our last installment
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Speaker 1: tomorrow to bring us yeah some stuff on Friday, Yeah,
Speaker 1: eleven am. We've got myself, Nate Newton, Taylor Stern and
Speaker 1: then Lindsay Draper. So it's kind of a it's kind
Speaker 1: of an all star cast of various programs that we
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Speaker 1: Yes yea. So we bring that up to point out
Speaker 1: that this is our our real, our final preview on
Speaker 1: talking Cowboys of the divisional playoffs, make our picks at
Speaker 1: the end of the show, our picks to click, and
Speaker 1: so forth. Bet are on that pick to click. By
Speaker 1: the way, guys, what I do with Sean Lee? Why
Speaker 1: did I do that? Because Sean we are wholly one
Speaker 1: of the better players, were lined up for this team,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, could Chun Lee be a
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Bill, I'm taking no no. Could Seaun Lee
Speaker 1: be an inactive? I don't think so. Man, oh boy,
Speaker 1: you both gave me that look like Rob, give me
Speaker 1: that look like Brian. Please? Well, could he be an
Speaker 1: inactive if you're trying to get guys that if you're
Speaker 1: struggling with your receiver's health. Okay, and we're sure we've
Speaker 1: talked about this now. I guess it's not impossible because
Speaker 1: he was in inactive a couple of weeks ago because
Speaker 1: of numbers. Yeah, but that was because he was only
Speaker 1: going to play a small handful of plays, although he
Speaker 1: only played four defensive snaps. It was that the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay game, Yeah, yeah, and then he that was so
Speaker 1: that was an important game. Yeah. But the reason why
Speaker 1: he was your pick click was he got twenty four
Speaker 1: snaps against the Giants. Was building back up, No, and
Speaker 1: he had a great game against the He had a
Speaker 1: great game against the Seahawks the first time. I felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's an opportunity for him to kind of jump in
Speaker 1: there and be a part of this. But well, I
Speaker 1: think not to be one limited snaps, limited snaps by
Speaker 1: the defense overall. Right, right, So, and I think one
Speaker 1: of the things you look at too, And obviously with
Speaker 1: the injury issues on the offensive line, you've got to
Speaker 1: have extra you got to make sure you've got enough
Speaker 1: personnel there, and the injury issues at wide receiver as well.
Speaker 1: But also I think when you every week, when you
Speaker 1: put your game day roster together, you have to anticipate
Speaker 1: what if so and so gets hurt. What I mean,
Speaker 1: even someone who's not nursing an injury, and so you
Speaker 1: want to have Sean Lee there in case. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I just know I don't see it a guy
Speaker 1: of that quality in a playoff game. Yeah, even if
Speaker 1: you don't have that last week, Robert, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I think I also think that his mere presence on
Speaker 1: the on the sideline is impactful. You know, he'd be
Speaker 1: there even if he's not suited out. But you know,
Speaker 1: I just think he has too much of an influence
Speaker 1: on this team that as a leader on this team
Speaker 1: and so forth that I mean, it would I think
Speaker 1: it would come on too. Okay, we have to have
Speaker 1: these other guys available more so, Yeah than him, it'd
Speaker 1: be a last straw. I think you're trying to take
Speaker 1: Sean Lee's helmet away. I was, I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out away Mickey, because you know,
Speaker 1: we've got into that yesterday about you know, what's going
Speaker 1: to happen with these receivers, what's going to happen with
Speaker 1: the tight ends, what's going to happen with the offensive lineman?
Speaker 1: Can you afford to go into a game a little
Speaker 1: lighted offensive line? Can you afford to go in especially
Speaker 1: with what's going on with Cole Beasley. I don't think
Speaker 1: this team is out of the woods on that one yet.
Speaker 1: I really don't and you know, I think that they
Speaker 1: need to as a veteran players is and as much
Speaker 1: as you know, you could say, okay, well he doesn't
Speaker 1: need practice reps. You know there might be something more
Speaker 1: there that we need to think about. Well, but then
Speaker 1: there's an inactive Yeah, gyro wins an inactive. Yeah, you've
Speaker 1: got two guys on, a rookie linebacker and a rookie
Speaker 1: defensive lineman inactive. That's four already. Quarterback is quarterbacks five,
Speaker 1: so David Irving is six. So I don't think it's
Speaker 1: really hard to get there if those guys. Indeed, and
Speaker 1: it didn't sound good yesterday about Beasley and Jarwin goes okay,
Speaker 1: you can't go yeah, all right, so give us give
Speaker 1: us an update off the top, because that's much different
Speaker 1: than what we've had yesterday. So yeah, I'm during those
Speaker 1: two guys did not practice again. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: it was starting to look like, okay, they're trying to
Speaker 1: get him to Saturday, right, right, And then when they
Speaker 1: don't practice two days in a row, Um, you're thinking
Speaker 1: yesterday at least limited because today is kind of a
Speaker 1: lighter practice, right, So yeah, I think you start worrying
Speaker 1: about the those two, especially when the h A came
Speaker 1: out on jar one high ankle. Yeah, yeah, so that's conservative.
Speaker 1: I don't I think Beasley's gonna be there. I'm worried
Speaker 1: about him, Mickey, I'm dance with Mickey on this swell.
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I so did he'd do something again
Speaker 1: later in the game. I think it's just been an
Speaker 1: ongoing thing. Well, it was kind of the same same thing,
Speaker 1: but it was different than what he dealt with earlier
Speaker 1: in the season, what he's still dealing with. That was
Speaker 1: more of the foot. This is more of the ankle.
Speaker 1: It's the same foot altogether, and I think, yeah, it
Speaker 1: may be adding up on him, you know. And and
Speaker 1: this is it's not a short week, but he didn't
Speaker 1: have the benefit of if they played the Saints another
Speaker 1: extra day to try to get ready. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a guy I think could not practice
Speaker 1: this weekends, no question, But it may take it all
Speaker 1: the way to game time. I mean, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a foot ankle at this point. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: the only google, the only good sign I saw yesterday
Speaker 1: at least both of them were out there on the chords. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh no, it's good points good point. So that's that's
Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 1: from my understanding, there's there's some worries. And let me
Speaker 1: ask you guys, this this is coming for our periscope folks.
Speaker 1: If Lee doesn't dress and something happens to vander Esh
Speaker 1: like we saw in the Giants game, would would there
Speaker 1: be a riot? Do you think there would be a
Speaker 1: riot of fan riot? Joe Thomas get in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's kind of and that's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. Okay, what if something happens either one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Jason did explain some of the Sean Lee decision
Speaker 1: with the four snaps. You know, they had twenty two.
Speaker 1: I think I said this earlier in the week. They
Speaker 1: had two defense twenty two defensive snaps, some three and outs,
Speaker 1: and the flow of the game didn't really dictate it
Speaker 1: for for those two young linebackers to come out of
Speaker 1: the game. And then in the second half they rolled
Speaker 1: with the young guys. But if he dresses, and I
Speaker 1: think he will, I'd be surprised if he didn't. I
Speaker 1: would expect more than four snaps. That that was Robert shocking.
Speaker 1: I did too, And then you know, last week. I
Speaker 1: I'm acting like I'm some kind of expert here sitting
Speaker 1: there talking on the radio and saying, oh, watch Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: Sean Lee's, Shawn Lee's is Shaun Lee's this? And then
Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden, that's totally fair. He
Speaker 1: is Sean Lee. I mean he is, and he is healthy.
Speaker 1: Is he enough to play? Yeah? He yes, I mean
Speaker 1: he's he. Am I making too much of this? Am
Speaker 1: I making too much of what Shaun Lee is? Now? Nicky?
Speaker 1: In what respect? Am ill? I am? I am? I seeing?
Speaker 1: Don't throw dirt on Shaun Lee? Is that right or wrong? Not? Wrong?
Speaker 1: He could still play? Yeah? Absolutely, But I think you know,
Speaker 1: it gets to the point where you see it's rolling.
Speaker 1: Why why change? Yeah, you know, no, that's fair. Fair,
Speaker 1: And you know, I think they they need him. You
Speaker 1: would have to get a gun out to get his
Speaker 1: helmet away from him. Well, and the other part of it,
Speaker 1: it's just the end of that way at the end
Speaker 1: of the season, is you also want But yeah, even
Speaker 1: like the Tampa Bay game, Okay, they wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that he's ready for the postseason. They're clinching that day, right,
Speaker 1: you know, and they and they wanted to make sure, Well,
Speaker 1: it's the postseason, it's you know, and I thought that
Speaker 1: last week, Bill, Yeah, I thought, well he was, but
Speaker 1: Mickey's right there, but the opportunity He's right, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: the young guys are playing so well that you're like,
Speaker 1: if you know, when you do take them off the field,
Speaker 1: it's noticeable. We got some concrete proof about how well
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh has played this season. He didn't make
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, but he got the higher honor to
Speaker 1: be an All Pro. Yeah. That that is as big
Speaker 1: a compliment as you can get. And that shows what
Speaker 1: he's done, by the way, Yes from the AP, I
Speaker 1: believe really yeah. Yeah. So like Schyler's voting on that,
Speaker 1: I think he has a vote. Good for him if
Speaker 1: he if he got him elected, good for him. So
Speaker 1: is that a higher honor? If the media is voting
Speaker 1: for it, it's considered a higher it's considered one. It
Speaker 1: may somewhat be a more knowledgeable one. Yeah, think about
Speaker 1: think about the players that you know win the players
Speaker 1: I want. I want the coaches to vote on one. Well,
Speaker 1: they do have, it's a coach slash player ballot. But
Speaker 1: then there's fans, there's fans involved in that one though,
Speaker 1: But not that it's not what matters. It's it's it's legit,
Speaker 1: or fans can help you into voting you or fans
Speaker 1: with fantasy football, I think people watch, especially the skill guys.
Speaker 1: I mean they watched these players. Yeah, but there's too
Speaker 1: much biased you mean, biases far for your guy. Is
Speaker 1: if you're a fantasy football follower, yeah, even no, I'll
Speaker 1: have a Votsburg if you're voting about those Pittsburgh writers
Speaker 1: they line up. If you're voting for the Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: is yeah, yeah, you may be knowledgeable, but you're going
Speaker 1: to vote with strict stats. I've kind of feel like
Speaker 1: that these fans watch these guys and though that san
Speaker 1: Diego sen it might I say, seen it. Charges You've
Speaker 1: got a pretty good receiver Keenan Allen, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: not watching the lineman as much. No, but you know,
Speaker 1: but that goes for players too around the league. Oh
Speaker 1: no, no no, people, how about Pro Football PfP or whatever? No, No,
Speaker 1: how about that. Maybe they said that that Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: was the best tackle in football. Didn't give up? He
Speaker 1: did Pro football, sure did. Woods was not a fan
Speaker 1: of them the other day on Twitter? Oh no, he
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. But they had the top front sevens in
Speaker 1: the league and then Dallas wouldn't even the top five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, it doesn't seem accurate. Yeah, there were some
Speaker 1: There were some teams. I meant say, though, what do
Speaker 1: you say, dude, what do you say when when when
Speaker 1: an organization comes out and says Tyren Smith's the best
Speaker 1: tackle in the league, are you gonna disagree with him?
Speaker 1: Or when they said are you gonna agree with him?
Speaker 1: And say, wow, maybe they got one right here, or
Speaker 1: when they said Byron Jones was the best corner in
Speaker 1: the league about mid season, So maybe they're fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's mister fifty fifty. Too bad Aaron Jones.
Speaker 1: You know, we had Everson Walls on our Cowboys insight
Speaker 1: and he's he's not concerned at least publicly about Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: He was critical of him at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: the Seattle game. He didn't know what he was doing
Speaker 1: at the end of that game. Figure that one out ourselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you ever not on rods dropped the ball there?
Speaker 1: But I need to get that one taken. But he
Speaker 1: was looking at it like he just can't let a
Speaker 1: guy run down the field, like like what Byron did.
Speaker 1: He was critical of Byron been one play though, Mickey,
Speaker 1: has it been one player? We started to see we're
Speaker 1: starting to see some cracks. Well, I know that not
Speaker 1: every corner. Can I know they make they throw for
Speaker 1: five hundred yards in this game. I get it. I
Speaker 1: get it. The two guys from the Rams have twelve
Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving. Yeah, so that doesn't mean every corner.
Speaker 1: And there's no question. Thank I've got to say, thank god,
Speaker 1: he got hurt the lead. You know, it's the league.
Speaker 1: He's had a Yeah, he's had a really good year.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a big thing with Everson. You know,
Speaker 1: Everson intercepted passes in his sleep. Yea. And so when
Speaker 1: he sees the guy making the Pro Bowl without any bicks, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna But but the league is different
Speaker 1: now than what it was when Everson played too. There
Speaker 1: aren't interceptions across the league like there were in the eighties.
Speaker 1: So talking about the human log again on he's getting
Speaker 1: some airtimee Man. Welcome to the Welcome to the party, folks.
Speaker 1: It's only been seventeen weeks of the Human Log. Good
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, but see, everybody's late to the party.
Speaker 1: Oh that's what I'm saying, welcome to the party. Mickey
Speaker 1: was grumbling about this in the locker room yesterday. It's
Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, Oh, look at every's talking.
Speaker 1: We're talking the human log. He doesn't like the LA
Speaker 1: folks coming out here and asking Antoine Woods questions because
Speaker 1: we've been doing it for but it's a big story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why he's you know, he's getting a lot of play.
Speaker 1: But they were really doing their job. They would to
Speaker 1: notice team like we did in training camps, right right
Speaker 1: down the road. They wouldn't even have to take a
Speaker 1: no we were playing ride to Dallas to talk to it.
Speaker 1: They could have just gone with the Ventura Freeway. I
Speaker 1: was saying, who's the idiot fighting Travis Frederick there, That's
Speaker 1: what I was saying, who's that idiot? You know I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, Jerry Jones, Jerry Joe, you were right, You're right.
Speaker 1: When I was talking to Clancy Pendergrass, Yeah, he comes
Speaker 1: walking by and and Clancy said hi to him, and
Speaker 1: I said, who's that guy? Yeah? And he goes, that's
Speaker 1: my guy, and I go, what do you mean? It's
Speaker 1: your guy. He goes Southern Collie. I love him. He goes.
Speaker 1: This guy can play. I don't know what happened, what
Speaker 1: happened in Tennessee. I mean, oh, let me tell you what. Hey,
Speaker 1: we all put on the two we have the two
Speaker 1: stupid pills and a cup of gatorade and say that
Speaker 1: all the time. I mean, he was stupid pills. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was, he was. He was waved injured in Tennessee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that and that kind of tells you that they
Speaker 1: wanted to me kind of keep him around, and then
Speaker 1: they and then they got rid of him after the
Speaker 1: guy the injury settlement, right, yeah, because it was May.
Speaker 1: It was late May when he signed. Right. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: just need to go to the right coach. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: need this right system, the right system. You need lay
Speaker 1: a three four don't Yes, they do. He fits. He
Speaker 1: is a Rod Marinelli player. Just motor up the field. See.
Speaker 1: This is this is why, this is why for the
Speaker 1: draft show when we start talking about one techniques, this
Speaker 1: is why we should never talk about a one technique
Speaker 1: technique being drafted high here because he will go find
Speaker 1: a human law, sure he will. He'll go find Antoine
Speaker 1: Woods and he'll go and that will be his his,
Speaker 1: and that will be what Rod Marinelli and Christopher Chardon
Speaker 1: will say. We don't need to we don't need a
Speaker 1: draft a Vita vea we need. We just need Antoine
Speaker 1: Woods or who is the guy in the Frederick draft
Speaker 1: where they passed everybody thought they should have picked him. Oh,
Speaker 1: the guy in Minnesota, Sharif Floyd, Floyd Floyd. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was more with three Yeah, yeah, exactly. So Jerry, Jerry
Speaker 1: see him and he goes, hey, I see you out there.
Speaker 1: Don't let up. Yeah, and Woods goes, I don't know
Speaker 1: what that means. And I'm going, oh, that's that's pretty
Speaker 1: bold to tell the owner you've never talked to before. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the next day I said, well, I got to
Speaker 1: go talk to this guy. And this was before the fight,
Speaker 1: and it might have been it might have been the
Speaker 1: I can't remember which was first, the fight or the
Speaker 1: goal line when they put him on the goal line
Speaker 1: to fight. The fight was first because he got him
Speaker 1: the goal line reps right, and he did the worm
Speaker 1: crop made the tackle and I asked him about that.
Speaker 1: So we were talking and I said, okay, go I said,
Speaker 1: I'm keep an eye on you. And he turns around
Speaker 1: as he's walking off, looks at when he goes don't blink,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, oh, this guy's pretty cocky for somebody
Speaker 1: I thought was a camp body and bow and behold,
Speaker 1: we've got T shirts now, don't blink. That's his motto. Man,
Speaker 1: he lives by it. Yeah. And but the thing about
Speaker 1: him is he was He started as a true freshman
Speaker 1: at USC. Tells you a lot out of high school exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at that position, especially at that level. Yeah. Oh no,
Speaker 1: USC has had some defensive lineman. Just go through the
Speaker 1: history that he's kind of inner city la, right, he
Speaker 1: is where he's Woodland Hills Taft High School. Woodland Hills
Speaker 1: can't send no. Woodland Taft is known to produce some
Speaker 1: athletes out of that. I recognize that. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: So but and that's when I when I looked at
Speaker 1: his biodur in the preseason and I saw that, I said,
Speaker 1: and that's where I and having seen him stand up
Speaker 1: to and challenge Pro Bowl offensive lineman, I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this this guy's got something. No, he's an idiot. You
Speaker 1: know you were you're enough off center to play nose
Speaker 1: tackle or but he also had enough ability, um as
Speaker 1: a teenager to start at USC. That's I think that's impressive, right,
Speaker 1: that's impressive. Yeah, um, okay, So but Jarwin you think
Speaker 1: is not looking good. I'm worried about that was late
Speaker 1: in the game that he got hurt. Yeah, just kind
Speaker 1: of hearing some things on Jarwin and it sounds like
Speaker 1: a very significant injury, like Mickey is talking about with
Speaker 1: the high ankle. But just kind of visit with some folks.
Speaker 1: They feel like that Jarwin's going to talk himself into
Speaker 1: playing in this game, that he's going to find a
Speaker 1: way to saddle up and when they get to the
Speaker 1: warm ups and stuff that, you know, tape it up,
Speaker 1: do what you have to do, treat it whatever, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go play. And that's kind of where that's
Speaker 1: And I think that's the most positive thing you could
Speaker 1: say about a young guy right there, that he realized
Speaker 1: how important this is. You know, I think Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: understands how important this is too. But we'll see if
Speaker 1: his injury keeps him from playing now, at least with Beasley.
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin looks like he's Yeah. I talked to him yesterday.
Speaker 1: He said I'm getting better and better. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: got somebody who can put in the slot there that
Speaker 1: kind of plays that position. Cooper can play in the
Speaker 1: slot too, If Cooper can go in the slot also,
Speaker 1: But then somebody he's got to play outside. Um. From
Speaker 1: the tight end standpoint, that's it's hard. I'm sure that's
Speaker 1: why Jarwin's looking at it and saying, I gotta help
Speaker 1: those guys out. They're down to two tight ends. Well
Speaker 1: then what do you do? Can wit and be ready
Speaker 1: by tomorrow night? Well, he sure he could clear Saturday night. Clear.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this though, if the playoff teams left,
Speaker 1: if Dallas were to try, if he if Dallas were
Speaker 1: to have to, if they put him through Waivers, who's
Speaker 1: left is philadelph Philadelphia has got a worse record than Dallas. Right,
Speaker 1: as far as the playoff teams that are left, the
Speaker 1: only one, Yeah, so they would they would be the
Speaker 1: only team would can maybe, Well, okay, you'll see if
Speaker 1: somebody else would put it in a plight. And would
Speaker 1: he really have to go through Waivers? Yes, he really will, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say you don't. Let's say the Saints beat the Eagles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Cowboys beat the Rams, right, I mean, I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean Titans Cowboys have on the roster right now three
Speaker 1: three three if okay minus Darwin too, right, and they
Speaker 1: have a they have a emergency, they have a tackle
Speaker 1: that plays is their thirteenth personnel. Yeah, So the NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game next week there, Yeah, there were a minute.
Speaker 1: Don't the other teams get to participate in the waivers?
Speaker 1: Yeah they do, Yeah, they do. Not just the teams
Speaker 1: that are playing, right, But no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. When you're out, you're out. So who
Speaker 1: would have first claim? You could claim him for the future.
Speaker 1: So if the Eagles get beat, who would have first claim?
Speaker 1: If the Eagles got beat Dallas? Well, Dallas is the
Speaker 1: one putting him on waivers. Yeah, but then cults say
Speaker 1: the Colts got through. You know Colts have but Colts
Speaker 1: beat You would anybody claim him? That's the question. No
Speaker 1: one's gonna No one's gonna claim him because he knows,
Speaker 1: they know he's not playing for anyone. But they can
Speaker 1: which Sean Payton claim him in an NFC champions the
Speaker 1: key from Dallas? He would absolutely Sean Payton two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars by the way he took our idea. I
Speaker 1: think you guys talked about that rolling the trophy in
Speaker 1: there with cash. Who did that? Sean Payton that he
Speaker 1: rolled the Super Bowl trophy twenty seven thousand dollars cash
Speaker 1: in their locker room, just like what were He goes,
Speaker 1: we talked about this, He's listened to talking. He goes, yes,
Speaker 1: he really is. He goes, you want this three blanking games? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Win three games? Yeah I missed that. Yeah, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a big deal yesterday. Yeah, everybody's on the on
Speaker 1: the things. We stopped this nonsense. Okay, we got it.
Speaker 1: We'll stop the nonsense. If you've just seen Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: he was kind of like he was going with the nonsense.
Speaker 1: Let me let me uh well, we're up against a break,
Speaker 1: but I'll just bring it up anyway. Yeah. Did Jason
Speaker 1: Witton when he retired, think that this team was going
Speaker 1: had a chance to go one went away from going
Speaker 1: to a NFC. He thought that. He thought that two
Speaker 1: years ago when when they had a rookie quarterback and
Speaker 1: a rookie and a rookie runner. And I think that
Speaker 1: he probably thought that was his best chance. Maybe not,
Speaker 1: I would think I wouldn't. But at the same tasts
Speaker 1: you think if he thought, if he thought this team
Speaker 1: had a real chance to go to the NFC championship
Speaker 1: game in the Super Bowl, would he ever retired. Maybe not,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, he might have looked at
Speaker 1: it and said, all right, they're offering me this this
Speaker 1: is a great gig, and I may just play one
Speaker 1: more year. Anyway, why don't I just take it. It's
Speaker 1: this TV season over, It's over. It's over over, and
Speaker 1: that's why this is over Monday. Yeah, we're working on
Speaker 1: five minutes on this hypothetical. No, but but I I
Speaker 1: just bring that up in context with of how the
Speaker 1: expectations for this team, the expectations for this team coming
Speaker 1: into this season, what were they and where they are? Right?
Speaker 1: They were going to fight to make the playoffs. I
Speaker 1: think everybody thought they were going to be competitive. But
Speaker 1: this thing flipped when they made a trade after he
Speaker 1: called that Tennessee game too. So there's a pretty key
Speaker 1: player that was not on the roster when he and
Speaker 1: because because what where were they at wide receiver at
Speaker 1: the time that he made his decision. They had just
Speaker 1: released Dez Bryant and they had not replaced him. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so anyway we'll call him all right, right now, all right?
Speaker 1: Do you believe that they didn't reach out to him
Speaker 1: this year? No, because he still had to clear waivers.
Speaker 1: You say you do or do not believe that they
Speaker 1: reached out to him. I don't believe Remember that report? Ye, yes,
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, are you gotta go one way or another,
Speaker 1: either getting a press pass or buying a ticket. I'll
Speaker 1: go with slutely. Yeah, it'd be fun. Is a judge
Speaker 1: like leaning on the you know, like can they lean
Speaker 1: on the ring and they can look up you know
Speaker 1: the little scorecard? Yeah, yeah, I've only done that. Mickey
Speaker 1: Spagnola scores the events. It was a small twenty six one,
Speaker 1: small time fight in Kansas City, and the press credential
Speaker 1: was right on the apron Jack Johnson of the Bare
Speaker 1: Knuckles the ring. All I know is at one point
Speaker 1: there was blood spattered on my notebook. Yeah did you
Speaker 1: go come? So? Did they use und letters? Take letters
Speaker 1: around the blood? It's like, what are they doing? That's
Speaker 1: pretty good fight. By the way, he put in his
Speaker 1: back pocket in care. He just folded it up in
Speaker 1: his back pocket. Blood and all I didn't care it
Speaker 1: was it was a guy from Kansas City and he
Speaker 1: was fighting Jerry Quarry to bleed. He was fighting nephew
Speaker 1: of what you know what? It was the same type
Speaker 1: of fighter. Oh yeah, and it just took all the
Speaker 1: punches and just kept coming forward. Oh, you recognized Jerry
Speaker 1: Cory's name, And I said, right like Savallo, you know
Speaker 1: member him? Oh? All he did was take punches and
Speaker 1: kept Kajack show is all about naming names that I
Speaker 1: have no idea. Clay Born, Orlando Scandrick got those those
Speaker 1: all right? Remember he was he was fighting the nephew
Speaker 1: of a really good fighter. I can't remember who it was.
Speaker 1: He was already go to a phone call. Probably get
Speaker 1: us back on t Rago. Let's go to Josh in
Speaker 1: North Carolina. You're next up on Talking Cowboys. Josh good,
Speaker 1: good good. All right, guys, I got a question for
Speaker 1: you now. Since he was incepted into this league, I
Speaker 1: have been a dak fan from the beginning. But my
Speaker 1: question to you, guys is do you think that it's
Speaker 1: going to take an NFC championship win to maybe, you know,
Speaker 1: take some of the pressure of the haters on Dak. Well,
Speaker 1: I would think he probably needs to win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl because if he loses the NFC title game, then
Speaker 1: it'll be I told you so and the good thing
Speaker 1: is there's no pressure on him from what he hears
Speaker 1: from fans. And but people don't people don't change their minds.
Speaker 1: You know Dak's intangibles. I mean, you know he is
Speaker 1: to a good person, and you know it. I would
Speaker 1: love to see him really go and just just win
Speaker 1: it all because I mean I feel that, you know,
Speaker 1: with the way that he carries this team, I think
Speaker 1: he deserves it. I think even now, the narrative has
Speaker 1: stopped about being Mickey. I understand where you're going with that,
Speaker 1: but I think that I think fans respect him now.
Speaker 1: Yeah I do too, But I think one loss and
Speaker 1: we'll hear it again. Yeah, but that's again, that's to me.
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be far less of that in
Speaker 1: this the end of the season than than what we've
Speaker 1: heard and when the team was three and five and
Speaker 1: not doing well, or last year when it was in
Speaker 1: the middle of the run and he wasn't playing well.
Speaker 1: I think I think the national narrative has changed on
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I think there's more respect there. I really
Speaker 1: really do. I don't know how. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you can evaluate the way he plays and not respect
Speaker 1: that well if you are, then you're you're just you're
Speaker 1: looking for clicks or for to move the me or
Speaker 1: the other way to just to piss people off. So
Speaker 1: one one paragraph in my column for Friday that's already
Speaker 1: been written, will point out that if you're still watching
Speaker 1: stuff on television, sure, and nothing against people who tellstrate, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can find anything on film, there's no questions
Speaker 1: support your narrative, no question and no question. If I
Speaker 1: hear one more time, look at this wide this receiver,
Speaker 1: he's wide open, circle him and he threw it over here.
Speaker 1: So does that happen to any other quarterback? But because
Speaker 1: the narrative on him is he doesn't see the field,
Speaker 1: they go find a play out of sixty and say, okay,
Speaker 1: see there's my point. You could have killed Drew Brees
Speaker 1: in the Dallas game. You could have absolutely murdered him.
Speaker 1: The eye level, mechanics, everything you want to murder a
Speaker 1: quarterback on you could have. I think Bill said it
Speaker 1: on our show a couple of weeks ago. Fans and
Speaker 1: us too, we don't watch everything every quarterback in this
Speaker 1: he does. We don't see every flaw for every sixty
Speaker 1: play game, and and so we're this is this is
Speaker 1: our quarterback in our city. So we dissect it and
Speaker 1: it's never perfect. That that position can't ever be perfect
Speaker 1: because you you need a confluence of help around you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think one reason he's earned I agree with you,
Speaker 1: he's earned respect. The narrative on special on social media
Speaker 1: has changed it about and um and that's a hard
Speaker 1: thing to change, by the way, as negative as that
Speaker 1: place can be, but um, he's doing it without you know,
Speaker 1: that perfect offensive line that we've seen him have like
Speaker 1: two years ago. And that's you know, that's part of
Speaker 1: the narrative leading up as well. It's got to be
Speaker 1: all perfect around him. It hasn't been all perfect around him.
Speaker 1: And what he does, particularly latent games, I think that
Speaker 1: earns respect from fans more than anything. If your clutch.
Speaker 1: Fans respect that as much as any other trait that
Speaker 1: a quarterback and have just win that that too, but
Speaker 1: doing things in big moments to get wins, Yeah, is huge,
Speaker 1: huge from the quarterback position. Well, Philip Rivers to me
Speaker 1: is mechanically is not a perfect quarterback. I'll take Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers all day because I think he plays on tremendous
Speaker 1: amount of guts. If you give yeah, give me a
Speaker 1: quarterback that that is just a gut player, you know.
Speaker 1: And and I'll overlook a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: Mickey was talking about. I can't see this or can't
Speaker 1: do that, you know. I bet if you went back
Speaker 1: and analyzed mechanics, Uh, Roger Staubach awful, awful, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of never similarities. It's awful. But they figured out
Speaker 1: how to win. Ye had had a really nice team
Speaker 1: around him too. But may one, you're right too in
Speaker 1: that in this organization that this fans of this franchise,
Speaker 1: that's the bar. He's probably always going to have a
Speaker 1: segment that doesn't believe until he wins a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Whether that's fair or not. There there, it's their guy.
Speaker 1: Romo didn't win one. There you go, and he I don't.
Speaker 1: That makes him no less of a quarterback in my eyes,
Speaker 1: I know, but people still it was a polarizing figure.
Speaker 1: He was left. The only quarterback in this team's history
Speaker 1: that wasn't polarizing through his entire career was Starbuck because
Speaker 1: they turned on Aikman at the end. Yeah, they turned
Speaker 1: on Meredith, right, they turned on Danny White, they turned
Speaker 1: on Romo. It's just amazing. How how that happens with quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: The fan the fan base turned on him. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the only one that escaped that was Starbuck and maybe
Speaker 1: good for him. He retired, well, no, he retired years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's played ten years, it's all he played. And yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got such a late start on his career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. And and so he was thirty four, thirty
Speaker 1: five when he retired, whatever age he was. And um,
Speaker 1: so he didn't have that downturn. Yeah, that was that
Speaker 1: happened with the team when Aikman was here. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: team was if you think about it, you know, everybody
Speaker 1: brings up Harrell Owens and the Star and what he
Speaker 1: did and how disgraceful and that was embarrassing. No, the
Speaker 1: embarrassing thing was people were booing Troy Aikman in that game,
Speaker 1: that very game. They were booing him after everything he did.
Speaker 1: Same thing with Meredith. You know, they oh, can't win
Speaker 1: a big one. They got to get rid of this guy,
Speaker 1: you know. And then they were fortunate that Starbuck was
Speaker 1: sitting there in the wings. Well, and then it took
Speaker 1: three years before they grew time to figure it out, right,
Speaker 1: because they had Greg Morton sitting in the wings too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just kind of feel like there's been
Speaker 1: a turn. Yeah, and I respect what you're saying, Mickey,
Speaker 1: but I think there's been a turn on this quarterback,
Speaker 1: and the turn has come this week. I think the
Speaker 1: turn has come through the last nine weeks. You know,
Speaker 1: if you think about half this guy's victories are come
Speaker 1: from behind victories, I think what a better measuring stick
Speaker 1: than that, No better measuring stick. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're talking about being clutch and winning game, that's
Speaker 1: a Starbuck made a career a ten year your career
Speaker 1: being clutch, and the ironic part is one of the
Speaker 1: big turning points. I think was Week seventeen in that
Speaker 1: quote unquote meaningless game where he put it on his shoulders,
Speaker 1: didn't have Zeke, didn't have starting offensive lineman, he was
Speaker 1: the he ran the show. Yeah, and clutch. You don't
Speaker 1: realize they've won eleven games this year and only one
Speaker 1: by more than one possession, by more than eight points,
Speaker 1: only one Jacksonville. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's this This guy's played. He's the pressure on him
Speaker 1: every week to perform is huge. It's immense, you know,
Speaker 1: it's almost like he embraces it. Sure he does, Sure
Speaker 1: he does. Like he's smiling through it. Yeah, he went
Speaker 1: through it in college in Mississippi State. Do you think
Speaker 1: your story we're all the first round picks, we're all
Speaker 1: the we're all the first round picks and second round
Speaker 1: picks that were that got this Mississippi State team to
Speaker 1: the number one team in the country after they started
Speaker 1: four and five that season, that previous season and anyone
Speaker 1: twelve straight twelve straight games to the point they were
Speaker 1: the number one team in the country midway through the
Speaker 1: next season. And this season they start three and five
Speaker 1: and they had twelve games left to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Well they did stub their toll once, I think, but
Speaker 1: they've won now eight out of nine on the way
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I think the I think the problem with
Speaker 1: the stay in ages, with the social media and stuff
Speaker 1: and people having opinions and stuff, that they get too
Speaker 1: dug in on their opinion. You know that, you know,
Speaker 1: and I accuse those guys on the radio station one
Speaker 1: oh five three that we do work for. I say,
Speaker 1: you guys are too dug in to admit you're wrong.
Speaker 1: You know, you're way too dug in You've you've had
Speaker 1: show after show after show fashion this guy. And now
Speaker 1: when you see a little bit of light, you know
Speaker 1: you're afraid to admit that you were wrong, and so
Speaker 1: they avoid the subject. They talk about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not to rain on your twelve game parade, But I
Speaker 1: noticed when I was going through the playoff history of
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, They've never won three consecutive playoff games to
Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. Never had to, yeah, because
Speaker 1: they had a first round by usually. Yeah, but they've
Speaker 1: never gone wild Card Division. Why does that rain on
Speaker 1: my parade? Because you said they're gonna win twelfth straight.
Speaker 1: I said, if they do, then they're gonna do something
Speaker 1: they've never If you look at the history of these teams, though,
Speaker 1: how they've hard to win three straight. It's hard to
Speaker 1: win three straight. But but the great thing about it
Speaker 1: is there's teams that have done it. And yeah, and
Speaker 1: they and those were teams again that were battle tested
Speaker 1: throughout the year. Baltimore the Giants, guy, it wasn't easy.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't easy. How about that Giants year? How
Speaker 1: big was they last regular season game that year? Again
Speaker 1: winning against the Patriots where they beat the Patriots. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they can. But it gave the confidence, confidence that they
Speaker 1: could do it, they could play like the Dak last
Speaker 1: game this year against the Giants, for a personal standpoint,
Speaker 1: probably gave him confidence and the team around them that right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and which goes right to your point that it wasn't
Speaker 1: a meaningless game, not at all. It's like it wasn't
Speaker 1: a meaningless game for the Giants that year. No, none
Speaker 1: of these games. What I'm saying, these like I always say,
Speaker 1: must win and I get laughed at, but they are.
Speaker 1: They really are because you only play sixteen, you know.
Speaker 1: And hey, I would have been I'd been sick if
Speaker 1: they would have lost somebody at the end. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd admitted I'd been sick if Vanderesh couldn't have played anymore,
Speaker 1: DA could have played. But to them it was important,
Speaker 1: and you know, God bless them. They got it done.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter as it relates to this game
Speaker 1: Saturday night. It doesn't matter on paper, how much money
Speaker 1: you've spent on certain defensive players, whatever, any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's who plays the best game on Saturday Night, if
Speaker 1: you tell me, if you ask me. And I'm not
Speaker 1: just saying this because I worked for this team. But
Speaker 1: if you said, which quarterback out there has the most guts,
Speaker 1: your quarterback here has the most guts, and that guy
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, if it comes down and having to
Speaker 1: convert a third and fifteen, your guy's got guts. I
Speaker 1: don't know if their guide has guts. I don't see
Speaker 1: it in him. So if it turns into a tight game,
Speaker 1: give me the guy with the guts took a helmet
Speaker 1: to the knee or thigh trying to make that play,
Speaker 1: making that play last. I mean that guy because everybody
Speaker 1: around him, the other forty five players, are going to
Speaker 1: do everything they can to make sure that guy walks
Speaker 1: off the field of winner. Make that trusts me. That's
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Speaker 1: any of these. Let me tell you what I had
Speaker 1: to do for you the other day, but came back
Speaker 1: and fixed it. Cowboys this morning, talk by yourself for
Speaker 1: a minute forty five straight? Oh, you didn't have anybody
Speaker 1: join you? No, no, I pulled one of your numbers.
Speaker 1: It's like they mike me up and they said, okay,
Speaker 1: talk a minute forty five about it. And that is
Speaker 1: not easy to do, to talk a minute forty five TV. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Queen, don't get it. You over cover you up
Speaker 1: with video at all. Oh, they try, but you don't
Speaker 1: know when you're on and when you're not. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like they put that up later. Yeah, but talking a
Speaker 1: minute forty five straight by yourself is not easy to do. Mickey,
Speaker 1: I admire you for doing that. And the Jack Black
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Speaker 1: felt like it was twenty seconds? Was it like if
Speaker 1: you're not a professional broadcaster a minute forty five, especially
Speaker 1: if you haven't memorized stats you want to use, and
Speaker 1: it always feels uncomfortable. I don't know how you get
Speaker 1: used to it. Well, when you're not looking at the camera,
Speaker 1: like you're looking down at your notes and you lose
Speaker 1: track of the camera and it's like, oh, I gotta
Speaker 1: look at the camera. Yeah, the key is bullet points. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't memorize what you're saying or anything.
Speaker 1: You just have certain things that you want to hit on, right,
Speaker 1: you know, you got three different points that you want
Speaker 1: to make. Yeah, And I did it in I did
Speaker 1: it in two takes. I did it because the only
Speaker 1: reason I got to the very end of it. And
Speaker 1: I said some about because we didn't know who they
Speaker 1: were going to play in the playoffs. I said, well,
Speaker 1: the playoffs and I went, oh, playoffs or that we
Speaker 1: don't know who they're gonna play. But can't they just splice, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they maybe do the whole whole thing over again and
Speaker 1: do the whole thing. Oh, you know a minute thirty
Speaker 1: five and I was almost home free, and I said
Speaker 1: some about the playoffs, and sayden Kane looked at me
Speaker 1: and goes shook his head. So the pressure builds in
Speaker 1: the final thirty seconds because if you screw up, yeah
Speaker 1: that that beautiful. Yes, you'll never eloquent, You'll never ever
Speaker 1: go back. You gave never the last minute, neverty. If
Speaker 1: you screw up in the last fifteen seconds, you got
Speaker 1: to do it all over. Never, never do it right.
Speaker 1: And plus you've got somebody behind the camera frantically waving,
Speaker 1: waving their hands right, and then you look at that
Speaker 1: you forget what you're talking about. Somebody's in your ear.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you ever got used to that stage.
Speaker 1: Managers can kill you. The key is is also not
Speaker 1: is not knowing or not it's pretending that you're not
Speaker 1: on television. Just you're just talking to somebody. Yeah, turn
Speaker 1: that camera into a person. I mean, the greatest one
Speaker 1: I saw in Cowboys training camp in Thousand Oakes was
Speaker 1: vernal on Quist. Oh gosh, you know Burn. He would
Speaker 1: do his stand up, you know, right by the practice
Speaker 1: field whatever, and he was so relaxed when he talked.
Speaker 1: He was just like he was just talking to his cameraman.
Speaker 1: He wasn't talking to thousands of people in Channel eight.
Speaker 1: You know. At the time, it took me so long.
Speaker 1: I mean I was never trained right, never, and it's
Speaker 1: just started doing it. And I was doing it for
Speaker 1: Channel four in ninety one. And after the games, right
Speaker 1: home games, I had Ted Dawson with me. Road game,
Speaker 1: you'd look, yeah, yeah, I'll let you say that. On
Speaker 1: the road games, I would go to another station in
Speaker 1: where the game was and they would set up a
Speaker 1: camera and then they would leave, and at least if
Speaker 1: there's a cameraman there, you're kind of talking to the camera.
Speaker 1: They would just put up the camera just okay. Well
Speaker 1: you know when they say go go and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm not talking to anybody. I was
Speaker 1: periscope doing their hating us right now because they've got
Speaker 1: to go to meetings and they won our picks. Oh me, well,
Speaker 1: we got a call, we did you go to first?
Speaker 1: Go to a call first, Freddie and Virginia. Freddie, you
Speaker 1: better make it quick for the periscope viewers. Good morning morning.
Speaker 1: My question is I'm excited and I'm nervous about this game,
Speaker 1: but what are your thoughts about the Cowboys approaching this
Speaker 1: game the way they played the Saints? And I listened
Speaker 1: to your comments off there, great Freddie, high powered offense,
Speaker 1: how do you approach that game? Play some dime mickey
Speaker 1: trying to figure out a way to stop something that
Speaker 1: they went into the Saints game and said we're gonna
Speaker 1: win this thirteen to ten. No, it just kind of
Speaker 1: turned out that it turned out that way. But if
Speaker 1: you can play defense the way they did, in that game,
Speaker 1: if you can put pressure on the opposing quarterback the
Speaker 1: way they put on Drew Brees, then you give yourself
Speaker 1: a chance to win a tackle. I don't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't know that. You go in and and think, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna just play it real cozy and just score
Speaker 1: thirteen points. Right, Yeah, I think in this game you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to score every time. We felt like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have had to kind of control it a high
Speaker 1: powered offense. They've done a pretty good job, haven't they
Speaker 1: they have? Yeah, I mean then we can hang our
Speaker 1: hat on that. Right, Atlanta Saints, who else they play
Speaker 1: that has been just freaking can light you up anybody else?
Speaker 1: I mean, Philly's got some weapons. Philly's got some weapons. Um,
Speaker 1: they could light you up with the tight end, play
Speaker 1: the receivers down the field. They scored twenty and twenty three.
Speaker 1: Yeah against the Cowboys. Yeah, this team's been all right
Speaker 1: against those teams that could throw the ball around and
Speaker 1: run and stuff. It's gotta get after them. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: where I think the key of this game is gonna. Right.
Speaker 1: We talked of guys asked me that today, how are
Speaker 1: you gonna deal with woods and yeah, and cooks, cooks,
Speaker 1: and I said, get after golf. Yeah, there's a reason
Speaker 1: why they caught twelve hundred yards worth of ye passes.
Speaker 1: I like. I like the matchup. I mean read matchups today.
Speaker 1: I think it's going up. Dave's probably got it up
Speaker 1: for me now. But I like the Marcus Lawrence Russian
Speaker 1: in this game. I do. I think. I think after
Speaker 1: watching the way the Rams had to play defense against
Speaker 1: or play offense against the Eagles and the Bears, I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys can rush the passer just as well
Speaker 1: as those teams. You know, from the inside and from
Speaker 1: the outside. I think the blitzer are gonna be a
Speaker 1: factor in this game for these guys. They better, they better,
Speaker 1: But the blitzer are gonna be a factor for you two.
Speaker 1: You better be able to pick up. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of twist stunts. After they saw the Cowboys
Speaker 1: give up that stunt twist stunt sack in the game
Speaker 1: the other day. That trust me, Wade Phillips is gonna
Speaker 1: twist that front a bunch a bunch past protections is
Speaker 1: probably a team probably the biggest key for both teams
Speaker 1: teams and yeah, this is probably the most talented. I
Speaker 1: mean it's a bunch of first round picks on their
Speaker 1: defensive line. Yeah, so the castaway a couple of castaway
Speaker 1: guys product again Yeah but all but also of all
Speaker 1: those picks that they got with you know, in the
Speaker 1: Fisher era. Yeah, but um yeah, I mean they got
Speaker 1: I contend with Woods, but they got to contend with
Speaker 1: Antoine Woods, and that metal rush has been huge for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Quarterback doesn't run around, right, this guy doesn't escape.
Speaker 1: Get to him, Finish him, you know, get him on
Speaker 1: the ground. That's I mean, this isn't Russell Wilson or
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota or I mean, this is Matt Ryan kind
Speaker 1: of guy. You know, it's gonna run just a little
Speaker 1: bit on you, but you gotta find a way to
Speaker 1: tackle him. He'll crumple, you know. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he crumples like Eli Manning crumples, but he'll crumple,
Speaker 1: you know. And you can affected the Bears affected the
Speaker 1: way he threw the ball. But pressure, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: when he can set his Ava Stein had it. He
Speaker 1: had a hard time block in that game. He had
Speaker 1: a hard time block in Khalil Mack when he can
Speaker 1: set his feet, he can make some really he can
Speaker 1: drop some dimes. Now, he can be really really accurate.
Speaker 1: But you know, he got fifteen to six on it Bears. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was fifteen to six something like that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the Bears and the Bears. And by the way,
Speaker 1: the Bears quarterback played like a bag of you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He could have played better that game.
Speaker 1: They could, They could have scored more points. I think
Speaker 1: I suggest the Cowboys try to go that route to
Speaker 1: beat him, not the route the Saints did. Yeah, forty
Speaker 1: five thirty five people are asking about Sue I field,
Speaker 1: it's Connor Williams. So don't you guys think Connor Williams
Speaker 1: in this game? Yes, yeah, I think it's Connor Williams. Guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're listening on periscope or whatever, however
Speaker 1: you're listening to us, I think Connor Williams. Let's go
Speaker 1: around the horn. Who wants to go first on your picks?
Speaker 1: I'll go first, Rob Phillip scoops first. Just what we
Speaker 1: talked about. Who can protect their quarterback better? I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a chance to get to golf. We've
Speaker 1: seen teams do it I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: pretty low scoring game. But I'm gonna take the quarterback
Speaker 1: that has been probably more battle tested and more clutch
Speaker 1: and clutch situations, and I'm gonna say Dak and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys win this one on the road something like twenty
Speaker 1: to seventeen. That's twenty to seventeen Cowboys and your pick
Speaker 1: to click. I'm gonna go with Tavon Austin for what
Speaker 1: we just talked about. You know, a guy that revenge.
Speaker 1: Not just that. I mean they're gonna they very well
Speaker 1: are gonna need him in this game as a punt returner,
Speaker 1: maybe as a slot receiver. It just kind of has
Speaker 1: unfolded that, you know, he may have a bigger role
Speaker 1: than he ever could have imagined about a month ago.
Speaker 1: The guy with the more guts wins this game, and
Speaker 1: that's the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. He's gonna find
Speaker 1: a way. I said last week about guys making one
Speaker 1: more play than the other guy, and you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of comes down to that. I think Rob's absolutely
Speaker 1: right about the pass protection. I think that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can hold up. I think the one great advantage that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have and the Rams can counter this as well.
Speaker 1: But you know, with their ability to run the football,
Speaker 1: but dallas Is ability to run the ball I think
Speaker 1: is going to be key in this game, and I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be able to control it. I think
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to finish some drives here.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: finish drives because of your quarterback in the way he plays.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that the Cowboys find a way to
Speaker 1: hold the rams and check much like the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Bears did. This game is going twenty seven twenty Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven twenty Cowboys. All right, you better listen up
Speaker 1: now because two of the last three games I've been
Speaker 1: hot on these picks. Okay, all right, took the seventeen weeks,
Speaker 1: but we're there. One was one was perfect, and uh,
Speaker 1: last week I had twenty three twenty one and it
Speaker 1: was twenty four twenty two garbage touchdown there late help
Speaker 1: you but go ahead, so they'd losing the kicker and
Speaker 1: having to go for two back to work cover. Here
Speaker 1: we go. Just got one too many, Uh, Cowboys twenty
Speaker 1: six twenty four, another two point win, and my pick
Speaker 1: to click it's gonna be Sackman. Randy Gregory who Sackman is? Nick?
Speaker 1: We call him Sackman. I saw him yesterday when he
Speaker 1: was walking by in the hallway and I said, hey,
Speaker 1: there's Sackman. He goes, no, No, there's Sackman. You never
Speaker 1: heard of that? No, setman Carthers. Yeah, the actor, the actor.
Speaker 1: I mean, what else is new? So what did he
Speaker 1: just kind of shook his head down, go what do
Speaker 1: you mean? Oh? No, you know I heard you say
Speaker 1: yesterday that the RAMS may not be aware of how
Speaker 1: quick Randy Gregory is. He needs a boost of confidence.
Speaker 1: Do you think the RAMS are aware of how quick
Speaker 1: rmy there? They know they can't they can't simulate it,
Speaker 1: okay once you get out on the field. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: got some rushers. It's pretty But they don't practice against him,
Speaker 1: we hope not. I mean that's like all these people
Speaker 1: talking about, well, you better prepared to face girly because
Speaker 1: you have to face Ezekiel Ella every day in practice.
Speaker 1: It's it's like, no, they don't face zek It's kind
Speaker 1: of like Ross being uh you know Aaron Donald this week,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of thing. Yeah, okay, what do
Speaker 1: you got I'm going the last time the Cowboys. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a history lesson. Ready you recall the
Speaker 1: last time the Cowboys won a road playoff game? Yes,
Speaker 1: I do that. Thirty twenty January seventeenth, nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1: What was the score of that twenty twenty game? In
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter? And what happened? Joy Aman hit Alvin
Speaker 1: and Harper on a slant, He wins seventy yards down
Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line, and Himmett Smith capt to win.
Speaker 1: It was a thirty to twenty Cowboys win over the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, propelling America's team to Super Bowl twenty seven. Well,
Speaker 1: this week it will be a twenty twenty game. In
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Dak Prescott hits Michael Gallop on a
Speaker 1: slant seventy yards inside the ten yard line and Zeke
Speaker 1: Elliott finishes off the rams. Thirty to twenty is your
Speaker 1: final score? There you go. Okay, so that was a
Speaker 1: great history. I hate to correct your history. Whatever. Okay,
Speaker 1: it was twenty four twenty and Kelvin and scored the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true, But forget it all right, don't worry,
Speaker 1: aboudy that this is what I remember. This, that's what
Speaker 1: happens when revisionist history. There you go, But Michael Gallup
Speaker 1: is my pick to click right. Yeah, and I just
Speaker 1: suggest they don't miss the extra point like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: went for two to put the game away. If you remember,
Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, that's right. We got one minute the
Speaker 1: Riverboat Gamblers. One minute. Who wins between Indianapolis and Kansas City.
Speaker 1: God give me the Colts. I'm oh, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like it. That's the early game Saturday, Colts around the board. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got Cowboys winning. Okay, early games Sunday, Chargers Patriots, Pots.
Speaker 1: The Pats at home, hard to beat, even though Chargers
Speaker 1: are playing well, give me the pass, playing awfully. Well,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about twenty one degrees or something like that.
Speaker 1: Chargers are not gonna be able to handle that. I'm
Speaker 1: going Patriots, okay, Oh geez, the Chargers, Oh, there we go,
Speaker 1: and then the Bolts and then the late game on Sunday,
Speaker 1: the Eagles at the Saints Saints. Saints Saints Eagles. All right,
Speaker 1: anc championship here, another history lesson. But the last time
Speaker 1: we hosted the championship games Green Bay, that's pretty easy
Speaker 1: to figure out. Three years ago that history. Lesson comes
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