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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Billy to Jericho. I'm Danielle

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Speaker 1: Henderson and we're already talk about film again with you. Danielle,

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Speaker 1: What is up with you?

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Speaker 2: Everything's chill. I'm still having some work done in the house,

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Speaker 2: but it's it's almost done. So again, if you hear

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Speaker 2: some banging around, that's what's happening.

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Speaker 3: But I'm happy.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy with how it's coming out. And everything's chill.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting ready for like a sweet ass hopefully nice winter.

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Speaker 2: But I want to follow up with how you're doing

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Speaker 2: because we've been chatting, like on the phone and tests

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Speaker 2: about your last crazy you have you had a wild

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I'll just say that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's been like a twenty four hour

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Speaker 1: hotline of freakouts and shit to you, and I apologe

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Speaker 1: for that. I appreciate you being my friend and holding

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Speaker 1: space for.

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Speaker 2: Me always always, And it's just like so and it's buried.

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Speaker 2: It's not just like one thing. You've had a lot

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Speaker 2: of weird things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been super cuckoo in my life and I'm like, what,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm I'm not this type of person

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Speaker 1: that like loves chaos in that way, like it's I

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Speaker 1: don't know, like some people I know are like, I

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Speaker 1: love it when there's like a bunch of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, things are moving around, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I like it when things are just

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Speaker 1: like real, steady, boring waters Like I like predictability. I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, not having a million trillion different weird things

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Speaker 1: happening at once. So, you know, I think generally, like

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Speaker 1: part of what's going on for me right now is

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Speaker 1: that I'm just like pounding job interviews, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I have been for the past. I mean, I've been

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Speaker 1: unemployed this entire.

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Speaker 3: Year, right, yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think panic is setting in obviously. To

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, it's been for like I'll just

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Speaker 1: tell you right now, I've been on a severance package

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Speaker 1: from my company. It's very generous. I'm very blessed to

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Speaker 1: have it. Okay, the first like two or three months

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Speaker 1: it was so great, right, I like went to Europe.

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Speaker 1: I was taking fucking art classes. I was like, this

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Speaker 1: is amazing. I've never had this much time off in

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Speaker 1: my life, Like, let's explore the world. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then about the six month mark, I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: I haven't worked in six months. That's a long time.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think you and I are, you know,

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Speaker 1: we had kind of different like work trajectories. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have been freelance for majority of your life and

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Speaker 1: I was like a nine to fiver at a company, right.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that either one of those things

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Speaker 1: are better, trust me, but I think that I just

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Speaker 1: the rhythm of like a nine to five job was

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Speaker 1: just so ingrained in my being that I just was

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Speaker 1: like I was feeling disoriented. I still am because I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 1: I don't go to work like I'm not working a

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Speaker 1: nine to five job. I'm not. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: reason to get up at any time necessarily, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it was like and that maybe is kind of depressing.

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Speaker 1: It makes me feel like I'm this I was this

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Speaker 1: indoctrinated capitalist fuck or something to be like, I can't

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Speaker 1: believe I can't work a at an office for a corporation,

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Speaker 1: but you know, just the structure, the structure of it

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Speaker 1: was missing. And like six months go by and I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is really weird, and I think now that it's

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, it's getting a little nutty.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling very nutty and so and I've been doing interviews,

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Speaker 1: like I said, throughout the throughout the year, but there's

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Speaker 1: just been like the you know, the chaos of like

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Speaker 1: trying to prepare for things and you know, like getting

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Speaker 1: It's just been wild. So that's like the baseline anxiety

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Speaker 1: that I'm experiencing right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that sucks. I'm so sorry. I know that feeling,

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Speaker 2: but it sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But so it's setting this really great tone for

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Speaker 1: all the other crazy shit that's been happening. So I'm

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Speaker 1: a postcard on the edge. So, like a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, I went on a trip. I was gone

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Speaker 1: there and all of a sudden, I see this critter

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Speaker 2: It is I cannot explain how bad that feeling is.

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Speaker 2: If you've never you've never had that happen. It is

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Speaker 2: the most instantly terrifying feeling in the world.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, one hundred percent. I have never experienced it until

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Speaker 1: that moment. I'll just tell you right now, And I

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Speaker 1: immediately thought of you, because this whole podcast is a

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Speaker 1: record of how many of these like wild animals that

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Speaker 1: you've dealt with on your property since you moved in

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Speaker 2: So no, that's why I'm getting work done, because I

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Speaker 2: swear I mentioned this briefly. I don't know if I

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Speaker 2: talked about it on the podcast, but a squirrel fell

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Speaker 3: Carrot killed it and dropped it at the foot of

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Speaker 2: So I woke up one morning, eyes popped open, and

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Speaker 3: So yeah, dead is great. But also just like.

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Speaker 2: Seeing a little mouse running along the edge of a

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Speaker 2: not even like, oh, it's because it's a mouse, and

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Speaker 2: I'm just so delicate. It's fucking creepy when something works

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Speaker 2: its way into your home space, Like it's just fucking creepy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, girl, like so many things like so I

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Speaker 1: all I saw, to be completely bare ass honest with you,

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Speaker 1: me tell you, I screamed bloody fucking murder, like in

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Speaker 1: It's like the room where the fucking washroom and dryer

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Speaker 3: You're waiting for it to come out with like sparklers.

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Speaker 2: Remember that Scott Thompson's skit I'm kids in the hall

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Speaker 2: when he's playing baseball and at one point he just

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Speaker 2: He just went to go change his outfits and can

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Speaker 1: Did, well, let me tell you. Let me tell you

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Speaker 1: Like at first, I was like, it's gotta be one,

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Speaker 3: And all with the dream one is the hope. You're like,

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Speaker 1: You hope it's one motherfucker because that feels like a

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Speaker 2: No, like oh, like I didn't know your home was like,

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Speaker 1: You're here too, guess what we we in here? We

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Speaker 3: Like you are ensuring in your own home.

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Speaker 1: This thing was fucking like fucking with me officially, Like

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Speaker 2: Like that second one was bold, and I don't like

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Speaker 1: And look it's it's younger, it's probably a teenager. It's

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Speaker 1: I called these friends of mine who had just I

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Speaker 1: I was like, I just called them and I was like,

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Speaker 1: And they were like, well, we used to live in

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Speaker 1: New York. Like do you have any peppermint oil in

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Speaker 1: they don't like to smell and this and that.

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Speaker 1: So immediately I was like, what is anything in my

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Speaker 3: And it has no bearing it. It's not a judgment

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, sir, I don't think you understand how

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Speaker 2: damage that any critters are doing in my fucking space,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they love showing the pictures which don't you don't

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Speaker 1: And he was telling me, like after he did the inspection,

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Speaker 1: But there was just like a couple of entry points

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Speaker 2: They're enacting the fucking house party movies.

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Speaker 1: Yes they are.

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Speaker 2: Well they're like, let's fucking fucking click heels and get

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Speaker 1: Yes, these two motherfuckers I saw were definitely can play ass.

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Speaker 3: But ordering pizzas and shit.

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Speaker 1: But what ended up happening was is that the thing

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Speaker 2: Hell, that's just common sense.

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Speaker 1: So it was essentially like an open arena for them.

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Speaker 2: So now you're doing an episode of Cribs with rats,

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Speaker 2: Rat Cribs, Rat Cribs, And again you're like, awesome to know.

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Speaker 3: Will I ever be able to use this fucking oven again?

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Speaker 2: Oh thank goodness. And did you feel better about how

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Speaker 1: I mean I do, but also I'm traumatized, Like straight up,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm just like like jumping in front, like jump

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Speaker 1: I saw it killed me.

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Speaker 2: That's my moo completely. Like I can hear the squirrels,

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Speaker 2: like I know they're in there. And the way to

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Speaker 3: That, they just make new holes. So the way that

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Speaker 2: Address it is by reciting my entire house and feeling

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Speaker 2: with them just being around, Like it's cold, you need

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Speaker 2: I do not want to see you in my living space.

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Speaker 2: Your living space is up there in the ducks in

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Speaker 1: twenties with like groups of other young, dumb people, so

436
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, we could have had some shit in

437
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: the house and nobody cared because everybody was on drugs

438
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: and like in and out at five o'clock in the morning.

439
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: There was no like, I'm in a different point of

440
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: my life where I'm like in my house a lot,

441
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,679
Speaker 1: especially now, you know, post COVID. I'm here, I'm old.

442
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want this. I don't want it,

443
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, at all, and lucky that I've never experienced

444
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: it until this moment. But I'm gonna just tell you

445
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: my life has changed in some way, in some small way,

446
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: it has changed forever.

447
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 2: I absolutely hate that it's happened, but I'm glad that

448
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: it was it was fixable. I'm glad that you were

449
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 2: able to get it addressed right away. You will eventually

450
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: become more comfortable in your home again, I promise. Yeah,

451
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: But it is a jarring situation that I hate that

452
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: you had to go through, but it is also really common,

453
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 2: and it's you know, again, like when last time you

454
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: lived in a house, there were a bunch of people there,

455
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: so there's always somebody home. When you live with a

456
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: bunch of people, Yeah, you go away from your house

457
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: for a week, and it's like it could be open

458
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: season for anything that crawls in there, and you wouldn't

459
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: know for two days, three days until you come back.

460
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: So that's pretty common. I remember when I used to

461
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: live in New York City. Whenever I left my apartment,

462
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: I would put like a cup or a mug over

463
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: all the drains so nothing can crawl up because like

464
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: you know, approaches and mice and I'm like, all right,

465
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: at least don't come up through the Draytons and I'll

466
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: be all right.

467
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like that's the kind of shit you have

468
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 3: to think about sometimes.

469
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: It's this unseen layer of us living with fucking living

470
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: on the planet and that's all that's happening, is we're

471
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: living on the planet with a bunch of shit.

472
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, And you know, and like again, the

473
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: idea that a lot like I gotta say, like even

474
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: in my own neighborhood. Like two or three days after

475
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: this happened, I saw my across the street neighbors. They

476
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: had a different extermination company out. They were up on

477
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: their roof, they were trimming back all the trees, and

478
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: I was like, see my across the street neighbors who

479
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: live in a house that is like a brand new construction, yep,

480
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: is like dealing with the same issue. So I'm like, huh,

481
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: the animals are taking over. I see, Well, this is

482
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: a huge issue for everybody.

483
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: Think about what we are as humans dealing with on

484
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: the planet right now, with all the war and the

485
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: pestilence and the plague and the fighting and the like,

486
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 2: all the shit we're going through. You think those vibrations

487
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: aren't hitting some of the these animals. They're going through

488
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 2: it too. They're having their own shit going on because

489
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: all the shit that we have going on.

490
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh definitely. And so that is essentially the saga

491
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: of the past couple of weeks is sort of like

492
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: being in a constant state of anxiety about a lot

493
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: of different things. But also you know this situation, which

494
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: I again is fine now knock on wood. I hope

495
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: they found somewhere else to fucking hang because it cannot

496
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: be here.

497
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

498
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: What the fuck is.

499
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: And what's amazing about this to me is again on

500
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: top of all of this happening, the job searching, the

501
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: rue rats. We're gonna have to talk about this another time,

502
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: but you also found out that one of your teachers

503
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 2: that used that used to teach you in high school,

504
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: has an entire true crime documentary about them.

505
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 3: Like just to add a.

506
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: Little like shot chaser action, a little little whip cream

507
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: on top of the shit week, You're like, oh, also

508
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: true crime documentary about one of my favorite teachers of

509
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 2: all time.

510
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, We're gonna have to really do this. I'm

511
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: like a bonus because I know that there's probably so

512
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: many people listening right now that have probably seen this

513
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: documentary or knew about it way before I did.

514
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 3: But it was it has rocked me to the fucking

515
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 3: I watched it.

516
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: I watched it like two months ago, and it didn't

517
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: even occur to me that you could have been.

518
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: Like in his class. Oh yeah, I it was not

519
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: on my radar whatsoever. And it wasn't until like a

520
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: friend of mine, you know, that went to I school

521
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: with me, was like, hey, do you remember this guy?

522
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, like did he die? Are

523
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: you dating him? Like? Why are you saying this guy's name.

524
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: I haven't thought about him or seen him in like

525
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: twenty years. And she's like, oh, by the way, apart

526
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: documentary on Hulu about him. He's a piece of shit.

527
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: And I was like, no, so shit. Well look I

528
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 2: dated a murderer. You have been taught by a criminal. Yes,

529
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: this is the world we live in now. Oh lord,

530
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: speaking of that horrible transition into our theme, because there's

531
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: no way to go in a positive note, but I

532
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: am glad that, like, your shit is better and that

533
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: you're feeling like, all right, I addressed it. Shit is tight.

534
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. I feel tight too.

535
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: I fucking love our theme.

536
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: I do too, And you named it. Uh so why

537
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: don't you tell them what it is?

538
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: I've been wanting to do this for so long. But

539
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: our theme this week is obey all the rules, miss

540
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: all the fun, and we are focusing on Katherine Hepburn.

541
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: That's right, Katherine Hepburn, the classic film icon. I would say,

542
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: And you know, I think we decided because you know,

543
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: she's been in so many movies that we were like,

544
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: let's go like her older period, right, like let's do

545
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: something maybe like towards the end, you know, at least

546
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: for my movie, but also like a sixties movie like

547
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: your film. Which this is so embarrassing what I'm about

548
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: to say, but I've programmed your movie many times on TCM,

549
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: but I had never seen it before.

550
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: Really, Oh I love Oh yeah, I love it. I

551
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: love a first watch for you.

552
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: It's a first watch. And I again embarrassing admission. I

553
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: am so bad at any like medieval historical kings and

554
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: queens thing. Oh yeah, I'm not. I'm an idiot. Like

555
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: it just was like it like realizing that, I was like,

556
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Oh'm gonna have to finally watch Line in Winter. I

557
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's gonna expose me for the fucking

558
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: idiot that I am because I don't know about any

559
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: of this stuff. Right. But then when I watched it,

560
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: I was like, this is fucking awesome. Like I was like,

561
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: why was I so afraid this movie is?

562
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: You know?

563
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: So that is the feeling.

564
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you hit that because that is the

565
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: feeling I think I want people to have in general.

566
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: But that's the whole point of our podcast is like

567
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: you might feel like you have a part of you,

568
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: of your pop cultural life that is deficient or missing,

569
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: and that you can never engage with it, but that

570
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: is not the case. Like I it takes me eighteen

571
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: watches to be able to get through Game of Thrones

572
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: and understand who everybody is because my brain just doesn't

573
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: work in that medieval dragony way.

574
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Like I just don't.

575
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: I didn't read those books when I was a kid.

576
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: I just didn't care about it as much. But I

577
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: do love a good historical a good historical film, or

578
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: good like historical fiction. So yes, you kind of have

579
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: to train yourself to be into it just by doing it.

580
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: Just by watching it, you'll understand that, like, oh, this is, yes, historical,

581
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: but it's also just a fucking good movie.

582
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, And like I mean, I remember we

583
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: talked about this. This was probably like forever ago, maybe

584
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: like the first six months of our podcast, where I

585
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: revealed that I like don't know shit about Shakespeare and

586
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: then you were like, he had memorized so much Shakespeare

587
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: that you did like an entire soliloquy or whatever on

588
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: the podcast, like by memory, and I was like, God, damn,

589
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm dumb.

590
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: No, And that's just not like because I felt like

591
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: I was dumb about Shakespeare at one point in my life.

592
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I just have to read Shakespeare

593
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: and teach myself because I like it. Like everything I've

594
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: engaged with I liked, but I just felt I felt

595
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: like I didn't feel confident about it.

596
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, I like this, this is

597
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: cool shit. And then for fun, because.

598
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: This is the kind of nerd I am, I did

599
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: start memorizing my favorite Shakespearean soliloquies just for fun and

600
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: because I also am trying to keep Alzheimer's in dementia

601
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: at bay. But that's how I started learning about it

602
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: and understanding what I even liked about Shakespeare or other

603
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: people who wrote in that era, is by teaching myself

604
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: and just engaging with it.

605
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

606
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: And it's not to like appear smart or snobby or anything.

607
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: It's just because I really like the language. I like

608
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: the way he like, you know, he wrote certain characters,

609
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: and I thought, all right, well, this is something I

610
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: can teach myself how to understand.

611
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe if you want to tie it back

612
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: to the star of our episode, I mean, that's kind

613
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: of something that you share with somebody like Katherine Hepburn,

614
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: whom also was just very curious about life and like

615
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: was super duper active and you know, was apparently like

616
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: still playing tennis and swimming up until she died basically

617
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: and was like just this kind of vivacious woman that

618
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: wanted to just do everything and had a lot of energy.

619
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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think that's kind of like

620
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: why you and I are drawn to somebody like her,

621
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: obviously is because she was just like such an independent woman.

622
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: She didn't have kids, she didn't stay married a bunch

623
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: of times, like she kind of you know, had that

624
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: relationship obviously, that very famous relationship with Spencer Tracy, but

625
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: she was also like, the reason why I'm not having

626
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: kids is because I like my life too much and

627
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: I know that motherhood is a sacrifice and I just

628
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: don't want to make that sacrifice. And I was like,

629
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, thinking, wow, that's really modern for somebody in

630
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: that era you know that she lived, and that kind.

631
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: Of became like her niche where she would play these

632
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: modern women that she she was in real life. She

633
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: would kind of emulate that on screen, and I think

634
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: it was encouraging to see that at that time. I

635
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: can't imagine it was encouraging to see it at that

636
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: time because she was a different kind of actress just

637
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: because of the way she lived her life. And you know,

638
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: there are so many biographies and things that you can

639
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: read about her life, and we could we could truly

640
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: do like a year serious, like a whole year series

641
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: on Catherine Hepburn, But I just think it's worth looking

642
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: into her because she was just so outspoken and she

643
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: she had so much spirit and just parlayed that into

644
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: an incredible series of films. You know, when she was

645
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: in the studio system, she did you know, things like

646
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Bringing Up Baby and The Philadelphia Story and The African Queen,

647
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: and she kind of like started out in a way

648
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: that she was kind of part of what the world

649
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: was at that time for women who were acting, where

650
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: it was very limited, but she made it her own.

651
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: And she was always stunning to look at for that reason,

652
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: Like she has stunning features, of course, but also just

653
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: stunning in her her personality, the personality that came through

654
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: for her. And then you know, she started working in

655
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: stage and Shakespeare later in her life, but just you know,

656
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: guess who's coming to dinner, and like just winning all

657
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: these Academy awards, Like she just really seems like someone

658
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: who I've always appreciated for the fact that she walked

659
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: it like she talked it, and instead of bending herself

660
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: to the will of the industry at the time, she said, well,

661
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to work as an actress and I'm going

662
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: to do it my way. And I just fucking love that.

663
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, the theme of the show

664
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: is based on a quote. She's so quotable too, Like

665
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,479
Speaker 2: she had all these great quotes, but you know, obey

666
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: all the rules and miss all the fun. It was

667
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: kind of, to me, felt like the theme of her life.

668
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 2: So I just really love that we have this wealth

669
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: of a film knowledge about her. But her actual life

670
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: was also stunning and fascinating. Like her her mother was

671
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: a suffragist and you know, an og feminist, and her

672
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: dad was really progressive, and like, yes, she grew up

673
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: with in Connecticut with a family that was very privileged

674
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: and had money, but they were super democratic and like

675
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: really seemed to instill this need in her to kind

676
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 2: of fight for other people and to fight for disenfranchised people,

677
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: and so she never discounted her history and her family life,

678
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: and she was really close with her family, but she

679
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: also was like, oh, well that's just not where it

680
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: ends for me. Is that I just I'm lucky to

681
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: have been born into this family. And I think her parents, really,

682
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, did that because her parents were super criticis

683
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: for their political beliefs and they didn't give a shit.

684
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: They're like, we're gonna fucking fight for this. So she

685
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: was the same way. She's like, I don't give a shit.

686
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: And then her you know, she had this huge family

687
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: and her brother. She had a brother who she really

688
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: was close to who had apparently died by suicide, and

689
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: that really, I think, just from what I've read, kind

690
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: of at first it was torturous, I'm sure for her,

691
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: but like she really turned it into the need to

692
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: have a zest for life because she was so close

693
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 2: to death at such a young age. So she was

694
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: a teenager when her brother died by suicide. So I

695
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: think that I just find her fascinating and every role

696
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: I've ever seen her in has been so interesting to me.

697
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: She has endless amounts of photos that are hilarious. My

698
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: favorite one is she's got to be in her late

699
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: sixties early seventies, and she's just up in a tree

700
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: on her own property, like cutting limbs down, Like she's

701
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: just hanging out on a branch, like up and down branches,

702
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this lady's fucking rules. She fucking rules.

703
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: And she was really private also, like during her whole

704
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: courtship and relationship with Spencer Tracy. Like they are public

705
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: when they need it to be for films, but she

706
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: was really a private persons. So she was kind of

707
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: able to cultivate what she liked about herself. And if

708
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: she wanted to go up in a tree and cut

709
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: a branch, she'd go up in a tree and cut

710
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: a fucking branch. She's not worried about paparazzi, and she

711
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: because she didn't put herself out there in that way.

712
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: She's like, the work is the work, My life is

713
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 2: my life. And I really love that, like I really

714
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: take I really took that to heart at a young age,

715
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: that like you can separate those things and have some

716
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: privacy and still be really bold. And I just she

717
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 2: was very bold and again like a rare, a rarity

718
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: and just also seems to just have a lot of

719
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: fun with her life in a way that wasn't rehearsed

720
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: or staged.

721
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: Like she had a full, good life. Yeah, and it's awesome.

722
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: I love it.

723
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: Like she never wanted to have kids. She got married once,

724
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: but it didn't last very long until she was with

725
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: Spencer Tracy for like over twenty years up until his death,

726
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 2: and never thought about like, well, we have to get married,

727
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: we have to have kids, and we have to do

728
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: She just wanted to enjoy her life with him.

729
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she took care of him towards the end

730
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: of his life too. I mean she basically like left acting.

731
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I'm You're saying all these

732
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: things about her, and I'm like, yeah, this reminds me

733
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: of Danielle. Actually, well they've got a lot in common.

734
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: Now I understand why you like her so much.

735
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: Is just compliment of my actual life. I'm not even kids.

736
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: Yes, well listen, you're going first this week. And I

737
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: am was so ready to talk about this movie. I

738
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: loved it more than I ever thought I would, so

739
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm excited.

740
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: Oh that makes me so goddamn happy. I didn't know

741
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 2: it was the first watch and I love it. My

742
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 2: film was released in nineteen sixty eight. It was written

743
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: by James Goldman and the director is Anthony Harvey. My

744
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: movie is The Lion in Winter. I have a confession,

745
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: I don't much like God Children. I truly have had

746
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: this movie on our list, on my list since we

747
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: started the podcast. It's been over for you have.

748
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: It has been over three years.

749
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: So this is a thrilling moment for me. I'm gonna

750
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: give you a one sentence synopsis and then we're just

751
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: gonna jump right in the wildest Christmas Eve of all

752
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: time happens as an aging king faces the fact that

753
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: his family hates each other. He's locked his wife in

754
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: a castle, and he might not be able to choose

755
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 2: an air between his three sons.

756
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Yes, hi, drama baby.

757
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 2: So this movie takes place at eleven eighty three during

758
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: King Henry the Second's reign, and Catherine Hepburn plays Eleanor

759
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: of Aquitaine. And these were real people. Eleanor of Aquataine

760
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: was also pretty fucking fascinating, like she was at one

761
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 2: point the Queen of France, Queen of England.

762
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: She had a wild ass life.

763
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: But what we're coming into is the fact that she

764
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: hasn't lived with Henry for about a decade because he

765
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 2: put her in her own castle and started shacking up

766
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: with this young woman that they kind of raised together

767
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: named Alice. It's not a Lai s but he's like,

768
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: you know, she's of marriable age now, which back then

769
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: could have been thirteen, I don't know, and he's been

770
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: hanging out with her and just kind of put his

771
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: wife away, and you think, well, she must be some

772
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: withering figure who accepts the fact that she could be

773
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: just put in a castle. No, when we meet her,

774
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, she's been plotting and scheming this whole

775
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: fucking time on how.

776
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: To get this dude, how to get back at this dude.

777
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is unreal.

778
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: So we come in and even the opening of this

779
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: movie gives me fucking chills. Give me some fucking Latin singing.

780
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: Make this shit like the Omen right away, and I'm in.

781
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, the opening to this movie

782
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: is so the Omen. I was like, damn, this is

783
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: setting up for some crazy shit, so crazy.

784
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: They're like, this is the nicest thing we can show you,

785
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 2: because the rest of this movie is just gonna be

786
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: NonStop insanity. Yeah, but the actors in this film are

787
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: all amazing. So we have Peter O'Toole, who's playing King,

788
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: you know, King Henry the Second. Katherine Hepburn is eleanor

789
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: of Aquitaine. Anthony Hopkins plays their now eldest son Richard

790
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: because Henry Junior died. John Castle plays Jeffrey, and then

791
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Nigel Terry is their youngest son, John who basically just

792
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: acts through mouth breathing in this film because he's he's

793
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: supposed to be playing a sixteen year old with pimples

794
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: and shit, and he's like obviously a fully adult male,

795
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: so he just kind of like looks kind of stupid

796
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: and opens his mouth and is like, I'm like, oh,

797
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: is that that is? Clearly the perception of sixteen year

798
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 2: old boys has not changed much over time.

799
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: I was like, even in the eleven hundreds they got

800
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: teenage freakazoids, just like now.

801
00:40:52,960 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: A oh good and the lovely actress Jade Merrow playing Alice.

802
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: We have a very young Timothy Dalton playing King Philip

803
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: the Second of France, and then just this again, those

804
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: are the main players. Is an incredible cast beyond that,

805
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: but those are the main players. And when we come

806
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: into the film, Henry is fighting with John, like trying

807
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: to teach him how to fight, and Richard the Anthony

808
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: Hopkins character, is jousting and he wins the joust, but

809
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: then he also kind of at one point shows me

810
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: a little future flash of a Hannibal Lecter when he

811
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: might kill this dude with a sword, and someone has

812
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: to step in and be like, yeah, yeah, Richard, calm down.

813
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: So what we learn from Henry talking to Alice is

814
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: that he basically wants to disinherent disinherit. Richard he hasn't

815
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: named an heir, and he knows he's old and he's

816
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: not long for this world because he's fifty.

817
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 3: So he's like, I've outlived everyone. I'm older than the pope.

818
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, you're fifty and you're

819
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: an ancient person. And he wants to put John on

820
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: the throne. Eleanor wants Richard on the throne, and he

821
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: also wants his mistress Alice to marry his son Johnny

822
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: so he can keep her close and keep her power

823
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: because she is the sister of the King of France,

824
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: so she came with a dowry, and he's like, we

825
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: can keep your dowry. I can keep we can keep

826
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: fucking I can keep your dowry and you can be

827
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: the future queen when I die. And she's like, ew,

828
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: Johnny is gross and he's like sixteen and disgusting, and

829
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: he's like, but that's what's happening because I'm the king

830
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 2: and Henry doesn't want to give her dowry back, essentially

831
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: because marriage back then was all about those relationships like

832
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: land and gentry and shit. But then he starts talking

833
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: about Eleanor because clearly Alice is aware that he is

834
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: still married to a queen who was alive, and he's like, yeah,

835
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: I married her because she had a shitload of land

836
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 2: and she was pretty. And but he's like, look, I'm

837
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: going to have you here by me and I'll use

838
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: you as I like, which is just so shocking to

839
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: hear nowadays, but like that was the rule of the

840
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: day back then. He's like, you're gonna stay close. I'm

841
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: an keep you close, even though Eleanor is alive. Don't

842
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: pay attention to that part where you're gonna be here

843
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be mine. It's just so like, just

844
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: that fucking territorialness just made my skin crawl. But Peter

845
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: O'Toole plays this role brilliantly because he's a scene chompin'

846
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: bore of a man, but he just plays it brilliantly.

847
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: So as the movie kind of rolls on and we

848
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: start meeting all the characters, we realize that absolutely none

849
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: of his children like him. But that's also kind of

850
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: how he likes it, because he's like, yeah, like I've

851
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: snapped and plotted my whole life, and now they're snapping

852
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: and plotting, and even though it's at me like I

853
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: like it, I want them to be tough, and I'm.

854
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: Like, that's kind of fucked.

855
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: And then Eleanor arrives, so we got this whole mix

856
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 2: going where he's like trying to command this young woman

857
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: and marry her off to one of his sons, and

858
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: his sons all hate him, and they all hate him

859
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: for various reasons, like Richard is like, I fucking hate

860
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: you because I was a second born and you always

861
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 2: treated me like a fuck a piece of shit. Jeffrey

862
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: hates him because he's like, you don't think about me

863
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: at all, Like my name never even fucking comes up

864
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 2: in your mouth when you're talking about kings or anything.

865
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 3: You just like make me take care of Johnny, Yes,

866
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 3: and that's my lot in life.

867
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: Poor Jeffrey, he's like the fucking Jan Brady of this crew. Yes,

868
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: just gets passed over so much.

869
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: And he's the smartest one, so he feels it deeper

870
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: because he's like, I'm fucking brilliant, and you will you

871
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: want me to actually lead your kingdom, but not actually

872
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: be the king. Fuck that. And then Johnny again is

873
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: just like this oblivious, mouth breeding, breathing, fucking temper tantrum freakazoid.

874
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: So he's mad because he's like, I'm Denny's favorite and

875
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: Daddy's gonna.

876
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 3: Make me king.

877
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 2: And he's just mad all the time because he's a

878
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: fucking child. But then we meet Eleanor, and Eleanor arrives

879
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: in fucking style. So she's on this boat, sitting on

880
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: a chair. It's piloted by like ten rowers, and she's

881
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: got on our cute little crown and she's covered in

882
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: blanket and she's got a fucking couple of ladies in

883
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: waiting next to her, and she's like, oh, how nice

884
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: of you to let me out of jail, Henry, thanks,

885
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: And then somebody hugs, like Alice hugs her and she's like,

886
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not fragile. Affection is a pressure I

887
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: can bear. Like she just comes out the gate and

888
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: is just amazing just from her arrival on the boat.

889
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: But then she gets into the fucking castle and she

890
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: greets all of her kids with insults. So she's like Richard, yeah,

891
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: nice to see you not killing someone for once, Johnny,

892
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: you look clean. And then she goes and Jeffrey and

893
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: then she says nothing, and she's like, Jeffrey also here

894
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: and says nothing.

895
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: We listen. Part of what I absolutely fucking loved about

896
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: this movie is that literally everybody is reading each other

897
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: in a film like it is so fucking bitchy. And

898
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: I was so surprised by that, Like I was like, oh,

899
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: I thought this was gonna be like a historical castle,

900
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: fucking Knights of the Round Table shit, and I was like, no, no, no,

901
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: I love it. It was like Catherine Hepburn is like

902
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: such a fucking boss bitch in this movie, Like she

903
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: is literally like in all these scenes, especially the one

904
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: that you just talked about where she's just like fuck

905
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: you and fuck you and.

906
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 3: You Like I was like, yes, it's Christmas, Yes, it's Christmas. Eve,

907
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: and I still don't like you. I don't like my family.

908
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: At like several points in this movie, she's like, I

909
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: don't think I like my children.

910
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: Very much, and she tells them to their fucking faces.

911
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: It is so bitchy. You cannot convince me that this

912
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: movie is not the prototype for the TV series Succession

913
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: about a fucking boss ass, overbearing dad, a bitchy cold mom,

914
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: and three children fighting for the fucking crown.

915
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: That is Succession.

916
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: If you like Mas Session, you'll like this movie. One.

917
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: I've never even seen Succession, and I was like, I

918
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: bet you this is what Succession is about, and if

919
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: it is, then I should watch it. It was like

920
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: between it was like it reminded me of Succession, and

921
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: like also that kind of like Who's afraid of Virginia

922
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: Woolfe that type of stuff of like people just like

923
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: gritting their teeth, insulting family members.

924
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is it too.

925
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: You would love Succession if you like this, you would

926
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: love Succession because it is this. It is this shit,

927
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: but instead of eleven eighty three, it's twenty twenty two.

928
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's so good.

929
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: And so she's just like rolling around the castle like, yeah,

930
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: take me to my fucking room.

931
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit.

932
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: I got nothing to do.

933
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: She has no pressure. Her only goal at this point

934
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: is to get Richard on the throne. Yeah, she's like,

935
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: that's all I gotta do.

936
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 3: All I do is get Richard on.

937
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: The throne and die. So here comes a young Timothy Dalton,

938
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 2: King Philip, and he's like, I'm seventeen. My sister is

939
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: gonna marry Richard or you're gonna give me back this

940
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: fucking land, this vexxin proper party and send her home.

941
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: And Henry is trying to school him, and he's like, yo,

942
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: I'm a real king, even though I'm only seventeen. I

943
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: don't need a fucking tutor. I'm telling you like it is.

944
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: So Philip comes in with his own designs on how

945
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: he thinks this this throne situation should go in England,

946
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: and Eleanor Is again is in the background like, yeah,

947
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: y'all keep talking.

948
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: I don't like our kids. I do like Alice, even though.

949
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 2: Like she's fucking my husband. I do kind of like her, yeah,

950
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: but also I refuse to let him give me up.

951
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: She keeps getting trotted out for these events, but she's like,

952
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: likes the kind of parley between her and Henry. So

953
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: she's like, I'm cool to fulfill my fucking role, but

954
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna put Richard on the throne. If you're gonna

955
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: keep me buried away and treat me like shit, the

956
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: least you can do is give this job to this

957
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: undisputed air because he is now your oldest son. So

958
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: she agrees to try to get Alice to marry Richard,

959
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: and she's gonna fight Henry on it. Like they're walking

960
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: and this is the other thing I love about this movie,

961
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: Like they're walking through these hallways and she's smiling and

962
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: kind of waving at people and like, hey, I'm your queen.

963
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: What's up.

964
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm back, As she's saying through gritted teeth, I will

965
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 2: actually fucking kill you, Henry if I have to. She's like,

966
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: I will take you the fuck out and let our

967
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 2: son rule if it comes to that. Like I'm giving

968
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: you a chance to do the right thing, but if

969
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: you don't, I will fucking kill you myself.

970
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: I know. It was like it reminded me of like

971
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: those type of relationships of people that like stay together

972
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: just to spite each other. Like it's just like I

973
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: don't know there's hilarious about that, so.

974
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: Oh, completely it is. It's funny to watch families be

975
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: bitchy at each other because I think that dynamic is

976
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 2: set that, like, well, we have to be in each

977
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 2: other's presence, like there's no escaping each other because we're related,

978
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: even if we hate each other. So they're kind of

979
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: like they're they're resting on the laurels of y'all, ain't

980
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: never going anywhere. You have to deal with me. But

981
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: they're also just being like as horrible as possible. It's amazing.

982
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: There's one point where she and Jeffreyer are on their

983
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: own because Henry finally is like, yeah, I'll agree, like

984
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: Richard could be king, he can marry Alice whatever, And

985
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: she's talking to jeff and he's like, what the fuck,

986
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: What the.

987
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Fuck is going on?

988
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: Why is it never me?

989
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, Jeffrey, you have a gift for hating,

990
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: and he just looks at her and says rot and

991
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: walks away.

992
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 3: To his mother's face. He's like, rott, bitch, like it

993
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 3: just walks away. It's fucking amazing.

994
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: And then she just keeps walking around covered in blankets

995
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: and hates straight hating.

996
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: At what point she says, had I been sterile, I'd

997
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 3: be happier today.

998
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: Like she hates her family so fucking much, but then

999
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: she also kind of loves Richard a little bit, like

1000
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 2: just a little bit more than everyone else, and she's like,

1001
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: I really do kind of want you to be king,

1002
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: even though you're an asshole, like you're a fucking prototype

1003
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: serial killer, Like I kind of want you to be king.

1004
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: But she just hates her fucking family. So meanwhile, Philip

1005
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: is angling to make Jeffrey king because Jeffrey is smart,

1006
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: and he's like, all right, if I align myself with

1007
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 2: this dude, then you know, me and John can join

1008
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: Philip in a war and we can take the throne

1009
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: like when we win. So they're all fighting for Aquitaine,

1010
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: which is like the richest province essentially, and Henry agrees king.

1011
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: Henry agrees to right when they're on the cusp of

1012
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: this this Richard Alice alliance marriage, she's like, oh, yeah,

1013
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: one more thing, you have to give me my freedom,

1014
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: Like if I agree to let this happen, you have

1015
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: to give me my freedom.

1016
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: And he's like fuck that. So they go to he

1017
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: calls up a priest.

1018
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: They go to this marriage ceremony that's happening like in

1019
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: ten minutes, and they're like, Alice walk with us, and

1020
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 2: she's like why and they're like, because you're getting married

1021
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: right now, and he's like, what the fuck? So she

1022
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: and Richard, I mean, it falls apart spectacularly, like her

1023
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: marriage to Richard does not happen, but the insults in

1024
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 2: that scene are some of the most intense I've ever

1025
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 2: heard in my life. Yeah, it is an incredible scene.

1026
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: So then Henry's like, all right, fine, I'm gonna marry

1027
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: you to fucking Johnny, and Eleanor's like, look, same rules apply.

1028
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: If you free me and marry them right now, then.

1029
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: Like fine, yeah, and she gives this great speech though

1030
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: she goes back to her room after this marriage with

1031
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: Richard and Alice falls apart, and she goes back to

1032
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: her room and she gives one of these incredible speeches,

1033
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: and she did win an Academy Award for this role,

1034
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: and it's this wonderful monologue about like being locked away

1035
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 2: for the last ten years when you know she used

1036
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: to see the world and she used to ride bear

1037
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: back into war and like she used to she's just

1038
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: kind of recounting all this shit that she used to do,

1039
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 2: and it's such a stunning, like a stunning parallel to

1040
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: Catherine Hepburn's own life, where she's like, you know, I

1041
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: did it, like I did everything I wanted to fucking do,

1042
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 2: and now this dude is bringing me down, Like I

1043
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: got married for all the right reasons, I married the

1044
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 2: right guys, I ran fucking countries, and now this dude

1045
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 2: because he wants the fuck. A younger woman is in

1046
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: a castle and thinking that I'm just gonna wither away

1047
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: and die, and she's kind of like trying on all

1048
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: of her jewelry and she puts like a crown on

1049
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: top of a crown, so it's a little bit unhinged.

1050
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: But this in the same vein at the end of

1051
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: that wedding scene or that not wedding scene, she kind

1052
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: of asks her husband to kiss Alice in front of her,

1053
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: and so we're seeing her get really sad in this

1054
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: moment when she's by herself, Like we're seeing real feelings

1055
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: come out because you think at first, like it's just

1056
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: all barbs and jebs, but she really loves him and

1057
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: loves their relationship and doesn't want to give it up,

1058
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: so she's kind of crying and just like, it's just

1059
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: a really spectacular scene. I thought it was one of

1060
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: the best when she's by herself. There are a couple

1061
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: other scenes like that, but when she's by herself of

1062
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: some of the best scenes in the film for me.

1063
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to ask. I mean, listen, I've already

1064
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: told all of y'all, I don't know shit about fuck

1065
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to medieval rules. Because I was wondering,

1066
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, is she like lock away for any reason

1067
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: other than her husband wants a new girlfriend?

1068
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh, wow, that's how they did.

1069
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: Because I also remember, so the way I'm not going

1070
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: to ruin the end of the movie. I don't want

1071
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: to go too much into it in a way that

1072
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 2: will destroy anything. But remember there's a scene coming up

1073
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: that takes place in Philip's bedroom that is like a

1074
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: screwball comedy, a serial killer film, and a fucking episode

1075
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: of the Office tied into one. Yeah, And it's basically

1076
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: they're all in there talking, but they come in one

1077
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: by one and then everyone starts hiding behind these tapestries.

1078
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: As the next person comes in.

1079
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: Yes, and then like so much is discovered in this

1080
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 2: and we realize that in this scene that like Philip

1081
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: has also been angling the whole time to like try

1082
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: to level a devastating hit at Henry, one of which

1083
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 2: is Richard and I are fucking like, you're we're gay,

1084
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: So how do you like that?

1085
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 3: Apples? Your oldest son is gay, and we fucked.

1086
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: And so when their dad comes in and they all

1087
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: start like popping out from behind these curtains, I fucking

1088
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 2: lose it. It is so funny and weird. But Henry

1089
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: in that moment admits that he married Eleanor out of love,

1090
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: and he says, you know, I married her out of love,

1091
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: a woman out of legend. But now he basically says

1092
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 2: to her when he when he hooks up with or

1093
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: catches up with Eleanor later that night now officially Christmas ps,

1094
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: he says, I want a new wife to bear new sons,

1095
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: so he locks her away because he wants Alice to

1096
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 2: marry him. That was kind of his plan all along,

1097
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: is like I hate my fucking kids so much that

1098
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 2: I just want to have new babies and have our

1099
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: marriage and nulled so somebody else can take over when

1100
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: I die.

1101
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like It's this is all wild to me,

1102
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: because I mean, it wasn't lost on me that this

1103
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: movie was made in the late sixties and obviously like

1104
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: sort of the beginnings of like second wave feminism and

1105
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But I was like, the idea

1106
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: that this type of storyline exists in a movie from

1107
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: this era, It's that's not lost on me because I'm

1108
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: sitting here going like, why is she in her castle? Oh,

1109
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: it's simply because a guy put her there for other

1110
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: for no reason other than he doesn't want to be

1111
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: married to her and wants a new girlfriend. And I

1112
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: was like, wow, that is so shockingly like crazy to

1113
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, again knowing that this was a

1114
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: thousand years ago. I mean, there was just different rules,

1115
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, you could be a woman locked in

1116
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: a castle for no other reason other than you're not

1117
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: attractive enough for some dude, and you had to sit there.

1118
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 3: Exactly let you out. Yeah.

1119
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna go to the pope and get

1120
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 2: this in old and she's like, good luck with that.

1121
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: We have three fucking kids. Yeah, but that was the

1122
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: move was like, well, I don't want to look at

1123
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: you anymore. Yeah, and she's saying the same thing to

1124
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: her sons, where she's like, look, only one of you

1125
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: is going to be the fucking king, so the rest

1126
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 2: of you need to like fix your fucking face. He

1127
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 2: says it, stop being so stank. Yeah, but he's saying

1128
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: the same thing to her, where he's like, you're old

1129
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: and I don't want you anymore, and I want more

1130
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: sons and you can't give them to me, even though

1131
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: she's had eleven children with him, six daughters and five sons,

1132
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 2: and so that's his He's like, fix your fucking face,

1133
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: stop being so stank, and let me get married to

1134
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: this younger woman I know, And like, what a bitch

1135
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 2: to be Like, I.

1136
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: Don't like my sons. I want new sons. You've got

1137
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: a new lady. They give me some new sons.

1138
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, Gods, so petulant, such a petulant, shitty move.

1139
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: But I gotta say, and this is my favorite goddamn

1140
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: running gag with this character with Eleanor. Whenever he tries

1141
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: to level her, she comes back at him and says,

1142
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: many times throughout the films, you know that rumor about

1143
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: me fucking your father?

1144
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 3: What if it's true?

1145
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 2: What if I fucked your father and it drives him up.

1146
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: It is like his pressure point. It drives him instantly insane.

1147
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Oh he loses it in the same way that I

1148
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 1: I lost it seeing that rat like he at one point,

1149
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: she's like on the bed. She's like on the bed

1150
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: being like, oh, I remember your dad's arms and shit,

1151
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: like here's all the stars that he had. He's like fuck,

1152
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: like you can't process it, and he like runs away.

1153
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: I love her so much for that because he's gonna

1154
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: like beheaded her in that moment for saying that like

1155
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: that was like a tree's in a statement at that point.

1156
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 2: But it is so great that she always has that

1157
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: one thing in her pocket where she's like, I know,

1158
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: I've been with you for over thirty years and I

1159
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: know exactly what to say to you to drive you

1160
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: up a wall. She's fascinating. Katherine Hepburn is amazing in

1161
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: this movie. Peter O'Toole again, it's a great cast all around,

1162
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: but she is amazing in this film, and the Academy

1163
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: award was very warranted. But I just love that she

1164
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: would choose a role like this that it kind of Again,

1165
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: towards the later part of her career, she was still

1166
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: and this she did this movie. It came out like

1167
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: a year after Spencer Tracy died, right, so she kind

1168
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: of went back with such.

1169
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 3: Gusto into this role and I just adore her for it.

1170
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: This is truly one of my favorite movies, and it

1171
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: has historical slaps and comebacks that I think should be

1172
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: brought back today.

1173
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean, like one of the bitchiest movies I've ever seen.

1174
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: I truly appreciated that. Like I just was like, this

1175
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: is so funny, Like this movie is funny as shit

1176
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: because it's just like, first of all, you've got these like,

1177
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, really important actors, like you're sitting here going

1178
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: like Peter O'Toole, Catherine Hepburn. First of all, I have

1179
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: to revise my opinion on Sir Anthony Hopkins, Like forever,

1180
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: I was like he scares the shit out of me

1181
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: because he played Hannibal Lecture. But I'm like, yo, like

1182
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: this was his first movie, right yeah, And I was

1183
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: like he's amazing in it, like truly amazing, and like

1184
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: all the way down the line, like all the actors

1185
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: are so good and obviously like kind of that classically

1186
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: trained vibe to them, and they're just like yelling at

1187
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: each other and cutting each other down in this like

1188
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: very old timey type way, and I was like, I

1189
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it, and I never thought I would,

1190
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: which is like why I'm just so overjoyed by this episode,

1191
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, oh my god, here's the movie

1192
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: that I thought I was too dumb for, and now

1193
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: I realize it's kind of the best movie ever. And

1194
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: You're right, she's so good in it. She really, I

1195
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: mean she deserved the Oscar obviously because she's just like

1196
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: this like fierce matriarch, like you can't fuck with her,

1197
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, don't give away the ending, but like the

1198
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: last scene of the movie is so good, Like I

1199
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: just love it.

1200
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: I would get that whole scene tattooed on my back

1201
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: if I could in space.

1202
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But I'm so glad you made

1203
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: me watch this movie finally, and it was like on

1204
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: the list for so long and we finally did it.

1205
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of us, so.

1206
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 3: Me too, and your film perennial fucking favorite.

1207
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: Oh I know, I was like, wow, this is like

1208
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: we could easily have done this movie for Sundays with Granddad.

1209
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: You like that kind of movie yeah, but it's a

1210
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: classic for sure. So my movie for the theme, Obey

1211
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 1: all the Rules, Miss all the Fun is a film

1212
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty one. It was written by Ernest Thompson,

1213
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: directed by Mark Rydell, and it's called on Golden Pond.

1214
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: Whie my, you laugh on that tie?

1215
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I put it there. It looks sexy. Okay,

1216
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: So a little bit of a different movie than yours,

1217
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: h but also a lot of similarities, I would say

1218
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: in terms of the bitchiness factor. So Jane Though, who

1219
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: is also in the film, she got the rights to

1220
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: the play that was written by Ernest Thompson because she

1221
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: wanted to be in a movie with her dad, Henry Fonda,

1222
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: And I think from what I've read, you know, she

1223
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: was like, my dad is up there at age. This

1224
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: obviously was the last film that he was in before

1225
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: he passed away, and I think that at some level

1226
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: she kind of knew that and that she wanted to

1227
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: have that experience with him. She wanted to act alongside him, right,

1228
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: which I think is just a really it's a fascinating

1229
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: look into the film because it's so personal in that way,

1230
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: which we'll get into in just a second. Obviously, But

1231
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: one of the craziest things to me was that this

1232
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: was not only Henry Fonda and Catherine Hepburn's first film together,

1233
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: but they had actually never met before.

1234
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 3: Crazy to me, Yeah, which I just think is.

1235
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: So fascinating because they were both doing screwball comedies in

1236
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: the forties, and Hollywood at that time was like really small,

1237
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: Like there wasn't a lot of people who were actually

1238
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: famous in those days, like compared to now. You know

1239
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: what I mean that, I'm like, I'm surprised y'all never

1240
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: met at the fucking Hollywood canteen over a malt or something.

1241
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: That also speaks to what I was saying earlier about

1242
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: how private she was, Like I don't think she hung out.

1243
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: I don't think she just hung out for the sake

1244
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: of hanging out just to meet people.

1245
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh definitely, that definitely tracks. But it's it's interesting

1246
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: because they She was seventy four when this movie came

1247
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 1: out and he was seventy six, so they were both

1248
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: in their seventies, they had never met before, and they

1249
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: effectively played a couple. Because I'll do a one sentence

1250
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: synopsis of on Golden Pond, an aging couple returns to

1251
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: their lakeside cabin on Golden Pond to rekindle some old

1252
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: memories but also to make some new ones. Why don't

1253
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: they let me write for IMVB.

1254
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: Also let you just fucking do it.

1255
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: Just get in there girl, become a wiki editor.

1256
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. So On Golden Pond was the second

1257
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: highest grossing film of eighty one, which is I mean,

1258
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I look at this film now and

1259
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I can't believe all these motherfuckers went

1260
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: to see On Golden Pond. I mean that's like, I

1261
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: don't know. To me, that's remarkable. But that's because we're

1262
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: thinking about it in like a twenty twenty three brain right.

1263
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: But it received a lot of Oscar nominations and it

1264
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 1: won three. So Best Actor for Henry Fonda, another Best

1265
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: Actress for Hepburn, and Best Adapted Screenplay. And so this

1266
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: movie begins with Henry Fonda and Kathn Hepbern. There are

1267
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: a couple the names are Ethel and Norman there and

1268
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: just as we've talked about throughout this entire episode, Ethel,

1269
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: who is played by Kathn Hepburn, is a real spitfire.

1270
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: She is a ball of energy that cannot be contained.

1271
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: Oh God, she's comes in hot.

1272
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: Comes in real hot. Like this woman is like, well,

1273
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: let's go get strawberries, let's fucking function up, let's go

1274
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: skinny the thing like I'm she's like, and it's like

1275
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: amazing because you know, knowing that she's actually seventy four

1276
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: years old, and and she's you know, just really all

1277
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: over the place and in a good way, you know

1278
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: what I mean. She's such a wonderful counterpoint to Norman, right,

1279
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: who is a classic grump, like classic mean ass. Grandpa

1280
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: Ethel calls him old Poop. That's kind of her nickname

1281
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: for him.

1282
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: What I also fucking love about him is that he's

1283
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: not just like he's grumpy, but he's sarcastic, like an

1284
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: old Like an older person who is sarcastic and knows

1285
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 2: that they're fucking with you is a different breed.

1286
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: Yes, oh yeah, I mean kind of hints of Grandma,

1287
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: your grandma, to be honest, Yeah, where she was like,

1288
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, coming at you with like the insults once

1289
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: in a while, you know. Like that's the thing is

1290
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: that he that's his mode too, Like he's over it.

1291
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 1: He knows that he's fucking with you. He's clocking you

1292
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: for sure. But then he's also got this like I

1293
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: think he's very aware of his the end of his

1294
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: life is coming right, and he's just feeling some type

1295
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: of way about that. You know, it's just contemplating his

1296
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: age and his ailments. You know, he's kind of like

1297
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: forgetting things, and he knows that he's forgetting things, and

1298
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: he it fucks with him.

1299
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 2: You know.

1300
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: There's a scene where when Katherine heppern is like, go

1301
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: get some strawberries, and he's like fine, So he goes

1302
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: out in the woods and he actually gets lost and

1303
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: it freaks him out. And there's like this moment that's

1304
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: actually pretty terrifying to be honest, and not even because

1305
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: he's old, but because I have had that feeling of

1306
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the woods and I forgot to where I'm at,

1307
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,479
Speaker 1: like in that like I didn't stay on the path,

1308
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: and now I'm just lost. It's a very terrifying feeling.

1309
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: And considering his age and you know, his situation. I

1310
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: mean I felt that when I saw that part, I

1311
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: was like nervous for Norman. So they're at their cabin

1312
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: on Golden Pond, you know, obviously, and it's such a

1313
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: charming little fucking place, Like the door falls off all

1314
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: the time, and you know, it's like they've got this

1315
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: like you know, mailman friend that comes on to the

1316
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: property on a boat, and it's just kind of like

1317
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: this northern exposure type of vibe. You know, everyone's like

1318
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: a character. And you realize that they have a grown

1319
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: daughter named Chelsea, who was obviously played by Jane Fonda,

1320
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: and it's kind of hinted that they don't see her

1321
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: very much, like she might be even slightly estranged from them.

1322
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: But at the beginning of the movie, she sends them

1323
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: a letter and it's like, Hey, I'm coming to the cabin.

1324
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: I've got this new boyfriend I want you to meet,

1325
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: and I'll be there soon, right, So eventually Chelsea shows up,

1326
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: and immediately when they show up, Ethel and Norman realized

1327
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,919
Speaker 1: that there is a thirteen year old boy.

1328
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:23,959
Speaker 2: Until he's cursing and he's just like such a attitude

1329
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 2: in a little thirteen year old's so funny.

1330
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he is like thirteen going on twenty seven,

1331
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 1: Like and I don't know if it's because it's the

1332
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: early eighties or whatever, but he's like Matt Dylan and

1333
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: little Darling. It's like he's just some tough, street wise

1334
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: little fucker.

1335
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 3: At one point, Norman is like, what do you do

1336
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 3: when you get girls?

1337
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 2: Because he's talking about like how like, yeah, I go

1338
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 2: cruising for girls with my friends in California. And he's like, well,

1339
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: what do you do with him?

1340
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 3: And he's like we suck face, And I'm like, this

1341
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 3: little fucker.

1342
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: He like leans, he like leans on furniture like he's

1343
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: just gotten off a fourteen hour shift.

1344
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 3: Like he's just this little motherfuckers.

1345
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: You know, he's such a little fucker. But you realize

1346
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: at that point that this little kid, Billy Ray Junior

1347
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: is the son of Chelsea's new boyfriend, who is Bill

1348
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: Ray Sr. Played by Dabney Coleman. And I think at

1349
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 1: some point when I was watching this film, I realized

1350
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: how much I love Dabney Coleman. Like I was like,

1351
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 1: he is so goofy and funny, and it was great

1352
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: to see him and Jane Fonda together after nine to

1353
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: five obviously, and he's got to look you know, kind

1354
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: of a small part in on Golden Pond, but he's

1355
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: really great, like that part where he's like he puts

1356
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: his foot on the boat and he puts on the

1357
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: dock and he's like slowly processing that he's about to

1358
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: fall in the lake, you know, like what I am.

1359
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: He's like, what do you suggest I do in this situation?

1360
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 2: And they're like just fall in and he's like all right.

1361
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: I was like and then at one point this rocked me.

1362
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: But you know, he does have a conversation with Norman

1363
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: by himself where he's like he actually kind of stands

1364
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: up for himself and kind of calls Norman out on

1365
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: a shit well you know, which we find out is

1366
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: because you know of the Chelsea relationship that Norman has,

1367
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 1: but like basically like he's kind of given it to him.

1368
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: And then at some point he says, I'm forty five

1369
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: years old, and I'm like listening to that, going wait,

1370
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 1: I'm forty five ors I'm the same age as Daphney

1371
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: Colehman and on Golden God, fuck like what So.

1372
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 2: I love those moments where you're like they people age

1373
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 2: differently now because in the eighties, forty five looked like

1374
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: seventy five, I know, I know, and it.

1375
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: Just gets worse, like as we get older, you're like, oh,

1376
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: I'm the same age as fucking the old woman from

1377
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: the bandshe's of in a shrion or whatever.

1378
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,480
Speaker 3: She's like, she's on your runner.

1379
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: In this podcast.

1380
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 2: You know what I can't stand is when I'll be

1381
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 2: scrolling innocently through Instagram and suddenly somebody will put up

1382
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 2: a grid that's like, here's how old all these characters

1383
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: were supposed to be on these beloved old TV shows

1384
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 2: he used to watch, And it's like Fred Sandford was

1385
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 2: technically forty eight in that show and I'm like what,

1386
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 2: Or like Wilford Brimley was forty five in Cocoon and

1387
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you talking about?

1388
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 1: I know, it's like so mean the Grandma from Friday

1389
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: is actually seventeen. Yeah, no, I mean, you know, it's

1390
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: like whatever. Like, but it's a thing of like as

1391
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting older, I'm like, oh yeah, that I'm older

1392
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: than all these old people quote unquote in film.

1393
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: Right.

1394
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: But so to this point about Bill, like there is

1395
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: a tension between Chelsea and Norman, right, and you kind

1396
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: of figure because Norman is such a grouch that he's

1397
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: probably really hard to deal with when she was growing up,

1398
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: And you know, I think Chelsea kind of comes back

1399
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: and is talking to her mom, who she obviously has

1400
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: the better relationship with, and she's like, oh my god,

1401
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just like a little fucking kid

1402
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: again being here with you know, my dad, who you

1403
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: know infantilizes me and doesn't take me seriously. And I

1404
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: was like, damn, that's how I feel, and it's how

1405
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: I go home, like you just are immediately put back

1406
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 1: into these like childhood feelings, right. But I gotta say,

1407
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take a break to talk about Jane

1408
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: Fonda is so hot in this movie.

1409
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: I know she's gorgeous. She is gorgeous, and you know

1410
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,560
Speaker 2: what really kind of is I found heartbreaking on this

1411
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: watch because I've watched it a bunch of times. My

1412
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: grandparents feel like this movie and knowing now what I

1413
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: do about Jane Fonda's life, I feel like she might

1414
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: have been in the midst of her eating disorder during

1415
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 2: this time. So she's super thin already, and you can

1416
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: see her in so many scenes on the lakes sucking

1417
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 2: her stomach in, and I'm like, oh god, homie, you

1418
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 2: look so good, like just I wish she could just relax,

1419
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 2: could have just relaxed in that moment. But this is

1420
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: all in hindsight, like now you know, knowing what we

1421
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 2: know about her life when she's revealed to us and

1422
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: she actually she was a guest on Julia Louis Dreyfus's

1423
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: podcast Wiser Than Me and she it's a great episode

1424
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 2: if you want to listen to it, like her talking

1425
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: about her life and how she feels about aging and

1426
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: but yeah, in this movie, she was like her hair

1427
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: is great, her skin is she's beautiful.

1428
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was like this is her like Jane Fonda

1429
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: workout video era. So it's like she was because that's

1430
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: the thing is that she is actually like ripped to fuck.

1431
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 1: Like I was like, she's got really muscular arms and

1432
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: like you know, like I was just like, and she's

1433
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: tan and she's like in bathing suits the entire time

1434
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:50,840
Speaker 1: in this movie. And I was just like, man, I

1435
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: mean to be completely honest with you though, when it

1436
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 1: comes down to it, like Catherine Heppern has the best

1437
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: outfits in this movie.

1438
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 3: I knew you'd love them. A pop collar under a

1439
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 3: sweat please.

1440
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: Please, a turtleneck under a fucking giant button up with

1441
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: running shoes and straw hats. I was like, yes, this

1442
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: is like what I want my seventies to be like

1443
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: is to be like.

1444
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: Her in this movie, a messy bunn, like she's just

1445
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 3: living life.

1446
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: Love it. So at some point Chelsea asked her parents

1447
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: for this huge favor, which is that she's like, hey,

1448
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: Bill and I are going to Europe for a month,

1449
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 1: will you babysit this child that you just met?

1450
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: And also you're like, well, you certainly don't hate your

1451
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: dad that much if you would leave this child with

1452
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: them for a fucking month. And I love the excuse

1453
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 2: they give. They're like, well, we just feel like Billy

1454
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,560
Speaker 2: Ray would hate He would just hate Europe. And I'm like,

1455
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: a thirteen year old Hornball would hate Europe. Great, try

1456
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 2: nice trial.

1457
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: I was like, did I Harry you were in Amsterdam?

1458
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: Like maybe you'd find some fun in Amsterdam. But also

1459
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: the thing that I thought was actually a little bit

1460
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: crazier in this scenario was that he is sort of

1461
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: cool with it. I'm not saying one hundred percent, but

1462
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 1: the idea that he's like, oh, I just met these

1463
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 1: really old people who are the parents of my dad's

1464
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: new girlfriend. Like I would have like hitchhiked out of

1465
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: there within an hour of this. The merest suggestion that

1466
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 1: I would have to stay there for a fucking month.

1467
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: Like I'll tell you right now, when I was, like,

1468
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 1: I remember when I was a kid. I remember having

1469
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: to stay at one of my mom's friend's houses like

1470
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 1: for about a week. And my parents never really went

1471
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: out of town very much, and they like we went

1472
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: on vacation together, like they were never we were never

1473
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: a part essentially, like they barely had babysitters for us.

1474
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 1: But I remember for that week, that week felt like

1475
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: a month to me, and I cried every single fucking night.

1476
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 1: I was like sleeping in this like sick zerio old

1477
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: baby bed that had plastic sheets, and I remember this

1478
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: was some fucking hot ass Filipino house where it was

1479
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: like eighty degrees and I was sweating on these plastic

1480
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 1: sheets in this six year old's bedroom, and I was like,

1481
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill my parents for leaving. What the fuck?

1482
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: Like like, I was like, this is so uncomfortable. But

1483
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 1: but this guy, this kid, Billy Ray Junior, is like okay, fine.

1484
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: He talks about hitchhiking to Wyoming for like five seconds,

1485
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: but then he's like, okay, I'm here.

1486
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 2: Well he he does try it. I think That's why

1487
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 2: he's kind of okay with it at first, because he

1488
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 2: does try to lay down the law where he's like, look,

1489
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want

1490
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 2: and there's nothing new old people can do to stop me.

1491
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: And they're like, actually, go ahead and try it.

1492
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: We will fucking kill you, yes, like you will drown

1493
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: in that lake before you go to Wyoming young man.

1494
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think that the charming thing about

1495
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: the movie is that he eventually, you know, finds this

1496
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: connection with Norman. Yeah, and it's through fishing. So they're

1497
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: like obsessed with fishing and trying to catch Walter, the

1498
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Speaker 1: biggest trout in the lake, which is so funny. And

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Speaker 1: I think Norman, you know, eventually starts taking to him too,

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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, there's this idea that maybe

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Speaker 1: he might be kind of like redoing his parent role

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01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: by taking on this kid, you know. And then there's

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01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: eventually this big scene Chelsea comes back from vacation, and

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01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's like the big moment between her and Norman,

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01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: and you know, she talks very candidly about the ways

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01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: that you know, he like kind of pushed her way

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01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: and made fun of her. For being fat and not

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Speaker 1: being able to do a backflip in the lake, and

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01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: about how she always just wanted to be close to

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Speaker 1: him but he wouldn't let her. And I read that,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously this was kind of true to life

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Speaker 1: between Jane Fonda and Henry Fonda, and that you know,

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Speaker 1: he was kind of a cold father to her a

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Speaker 1: lot of times, and that he was really tough on

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01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: her looks, you know, in that same kind of way.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you have to remember too that her

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Speaker 1: mother died by suicide when she was like twelve or

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Speaker 1: thirteen years old, So there's a lot of tragedy between

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01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: them really in real life, and so in the scene,

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01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: you just kind of feel that between them. And apparently

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Speaker 1: I read that this wasn't in the script, but that

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01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: Jane fought actually reached out to touch him while they

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01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: were acting in the scene, and apparently it made him

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01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: like really emotional, really yeah, like in a way, like

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01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: I read somewhere that she was like at first that

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01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: she thought that he might be angry that she had

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01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: done that because it was so not prepared, oh, in

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01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: a script, but that he started crying essentially when it happened.

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01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know, just like like a nice story

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01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: like that came out of that.

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01:18:55,960 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 2: So oh, how bold and cool of her to try

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01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: to address issues in her real life relationship with her

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01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: father through the one thing they have in common for sure,

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01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 2: which is acting. Yeah, that's a g move, I know.

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01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 1: But it's like this movie is so wonderful. I mean,

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01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: it's got obviously like a great Summer at the Lake

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01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: kind of vibe, but like the acting is really great,

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01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: and like, you know, Catherine Hepburn at this point had

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01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: developed a tremor, which I think is you know, pretty

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 1: noticeable in the film. But she also completely did her

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01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: own stunts, including she jumped into the lake with her

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01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: clothes on. So she was like, I don't give a shit,

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01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing all my own stuff. And she actually encouraged

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01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 1: Jane Fonda to do her own backflip in the lake

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01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: because apparently they were going to use a stunt double,

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01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: and Katherine Hepburn was like, girl, you do that, Like,

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01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: just go do it.

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01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 2: You can do it.

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01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: I can do it, Like get in there, and I

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01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: read that Jane Fonda was like, yeah, in that moment,

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01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, she's doing the backflip in the movie. To

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01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,560
Speaker 1: impress her father, like to impress Norman. But she was

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01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: like I actually felt like I was impressing Katherine Hepburn

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01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: in that moment, so it kind of felt good to

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01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,640
Speaker 1: do it. So I don't know, I just like it's

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01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: such a great movie. Obviously, Katherine Hepburn so vivacious even

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01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: in her later period, like on her seventies, and this

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01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: movie is just really special, such a such a good

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01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 1: classic Sundays Grandpa movie. But just you know, if you

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01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: haven't ever seen it and you've always been curious, I

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01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: think you'd be very pleasantly surprised about, you know, how

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01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: much you could like it.

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01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 3: So absolutely again, so many zingers.

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01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 2: Katherine Hepburn is so good in this film because she's

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: you know, she's stoic, but she's fun and emotional at

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01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: certain points, and it's she's just she's was an amazing actress,

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01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 2: Like she made everything look very easy and created these

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01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 2: helped create these characters on on screen that just had

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01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 2: so much life and that had to have come from

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01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 2: her personally, like you said, like doing backflips and jumping

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01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: into the lake and like that's all her and she

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01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: brings that energy to her roles in such a spectacular way.

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Speaker 1: And I loved it.

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Speaker 2: I loved seeing her being, you know, playing an older

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01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: character who's like super cantankerous and you know, fine to

1576
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: find she's And the other thing that I love about

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01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 2: her in this movie is that she's she's not actively

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01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 2: trying to repair her family, but she does have conversations

1579
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 2: with Chelsea and Norman individually where she's like, get your

1580
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: fucking shit together. Yeah, like, either get it. She's like, what,

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01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 2: I don't know what you're waiting for? Norman, you're eighty. Chelsea,

1582
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 2: you're like doing your thing. Like there's never going to

1583
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 2: be a time, a better time than now for you

1584
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: to get your fucking shit together and get over yourself.

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01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: And I just I love that that.

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01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: She's not like sitting them in a room and let's

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01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 2: have a talk and let's pretend nothing's happening. She's like, yeah,

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01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 2: you're both acting like assholes. One of you should cut

1589
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah.

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01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that and that's why this movie is like

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01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: such a classic in terms of a movie about aging

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01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: and about repairing relationships as you get older, because yeah,

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01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: I mean, this is stuff you don't really think about

1594
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 1: as a young person necessarily, but as you get older,

1595
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,480
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, this shit hits, like you know, time

1596
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 1: is ticking, and you know, maybe you need to go

1597
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 1: out to the lake and fucking confront your dad about

1598
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,560
Speaker 1: some shit. Maybe you got to force your dad to

1599
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 1: be in a movie with you so you can talk

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01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: some stuff out.

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01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 3: But bring your dad to work day just so you

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01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 3: can talk about your issues.

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01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: That's right. But yeah, I love this week. We obviously

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01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: stan a legend. Katherine Hepburn is the best, and yeah,

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01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: this was so fun.

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01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 2: So fun. Next week is going to be super fun

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01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 2: as well. I don't know if you want to tell

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01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: them what the movies are after we give you a

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01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: couple of messages.

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01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, as always, if you want to

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01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: email us, we are at asauch did Pot at gmail

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01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: dot com. We're always taking mail, email, voice memos, that

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01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 1: kind of stuff for bonus episodes, and then sometimes that

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01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 1: stuff goes on the main feed too, so you know

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01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: it's all there for you. If you go to our

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01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: link tree, you can actually find the po box address

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01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: because we actually take physical mail, so uh do that.

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01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you if you do want to leave

1619
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: us a voicemail to plan the show, all you have

1620
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: to do is record one on your phone and email

1621
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 2: it to I Saw what you Did pod at gmail

1622
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: dot com and make it sixty seconds or less and

1623
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: record in a quiet space.

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01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: That's right. Also, we're on social media, obviously I saw

1625
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: a pod on Instagram, Twitter, and Blue Sky. And we

1626
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: also have merch so go to the I Saw what

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01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: you Did section of the exactly right shop to find it, and.

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01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a bonus episode coming up for y'all.

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01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a this is a good hollow

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01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 2: This is a good Thanksgiving double feature that we have.

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01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 2: If you're gonna be with your family, like put on

1632
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: the line winter and hang out with your family, that'll

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01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: be just for me.

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01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 1: Do it for me.

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01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 2: It'll be so much fun, so good.

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: But if you're like, all right, we.

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01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 2: Listened to this episode and now our family's all pissed

1638
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 2: at us, well, we'll have a bonus episode for you

1639
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: coming out. Our bonus episodes drop into the main feed

1640
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 2: on every third Thursday of the month, and we have

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01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: old bonus episodes trickling out into the main feed every

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01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: couple of weeks on Wednesdays. So you may have a

1643
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: couple of ways to decompress after you force your family

1644
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: to watch the line in winter and take them out

1645
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: on a lake and confront your dad.

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01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that both these movies are

1647
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: about family drama to another inroad we didn't realize but really,

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01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you want me to tell them the

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01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 1: movies for next week?

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01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: You know I do?

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: Okay, ooh, this is man, this is gonna be a

1652
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: barn burner. Your movies for next week are Easy Writer

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01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty nine and One False Move from nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety two.

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01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 2: Oh shit, try to guess the theme. I know that

1656
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 2: most people are like, we never get it. I'm like

1657
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: to keep trying. You never know.

1658
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 1: I think that ever since we made them get the

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01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 1: exact wording of the title right, that is creating a

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01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: bit of a challenge for them, But they can still guess.

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01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: It's You're close. We're always close.

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01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: We like hearing your thoughts on your your guesses, and

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01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: the more you listen, the more you get to know us,

1664
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: and the more chances you have to get it right.

1665
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 2: But you know, like this week, I'm sure a lot

1666
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: of people said the theme is Catherine Hepburn.

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01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 3: We're never going to be that basic. Think about how

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01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 3: weird we are and then guess.

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01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: Listen, Danielle literally comes up with the names for ninety

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01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of our episodes, so like, get

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01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: into her brain, think about Danielle and the kind of

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01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 1: person she is. Then you're close. You're really close. So

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01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: you have some bangers too, but yeah, once in a while.

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01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: But now you are our queen. You are eleanor of

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01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: naming episodes themes.

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Speaker 3: Highest compliments.

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01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Well, daniel it's as always a fucking pleasure to join

1678
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: this podcast with you.

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01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: The best it.

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01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week. Mine.

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Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production. Produced by Casey O'Brien.

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01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 2: Episode mixing and theme music by Tom Bryfogel, artwork by

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01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 2: Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstart, karenkle Garriff,

1684
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: and Daniel Kramer. You can follow us on Instagram and

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01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: Twitter at I Saw pod, and you can email us

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Speaker 2: at I Saw What You Did Pod at gmail.