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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Potter Rebellion. I'm Taylor Gray Specter six,

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Speaker 6: are here to talk about season one, episode nine, gathering horses.

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Speaker 6: Let's go or hang on, as Harro would say, how

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Speaker 6: I had the same birthday as Diane Lane and also

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Speaker 5: John, I'm excited to hear your recap. It's been a

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Speaker 4: the way Ezra dismissed them, it felt to me the

434
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 4: most like family. You know, they they were training you.

435
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: Zeb's giving you a hard time, Choppers throwing milk cartons

436
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 4: or whatever at your head, and you know you've been

437
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 4: tested and tested and you're battling Chopper and Zeb's blaming

438
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 4: you and bickering. When he came home, it really felt

439
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 4: like the family was back together again for the first

440
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 4: time for me in a very authentic, messy way, which

441
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 4: looked like you being like, get out of my face

442
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 4: or what I mean. You didn't say that, but it

443
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 4: was something akin to you know, you need to talk

444
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: to sea Boat. No I don't, and you and you

445
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,719
Speaker 4: went and you were by yourself. That's how That's how

446
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 4: people who truly are intimate with each other practice self care.

447
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 4: It doesn't always look like unicorns and rainbows. Although initially

448
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 4: the greeting was that, which was a huge growth for

449
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 4: zeb to be so affectionate with you, and it was

450
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 4: to me a manifestation of true intimacy for you to

451
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 4: just take care of yourself and get away from everybody

452
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 4: that I was impressed with his self care and he's

453
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 4: done that before when he wanted you know, you wanted

454
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 4: to be alone, I think in the previous episode. But

455
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 4: I felt like it locked in for me that I

456
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 4: care about this group and I applaud them for how

457
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 4: they're facing these obstacles, even Harah allowing you to go

458
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 4: do that when she wants to tell you what Sibo

459
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 4: knows about your parents or you know, I don't know,

460
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 4: did you guys experience that?

461
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 2: Or yeah, I agree, I'm ready to take a ride

462
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 2: with this group now.

463
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 4: Thank goodness.

464
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 5: Of it.

465
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 4: Well, it's not that I wasn't rooting for them before,

466
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 4: but I could feel them earning the right absolutely to

467
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 4: say no to each other without apology.

468
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I agree entirely.

469
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's like a level of intimacy and comfort

470
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 5: between them that they can do things like they now

471
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 5: feel comfortable, or at least Ezra feels comfortable enough with

472
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 5: the group to be able to sort of advocate for

473
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 5: himself and say like, no, I need a minute, go

474
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 5: off self care King.

475
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: Self care.

476
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: That's self care, self care King.

477
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: The one the thing that is always fun in every

478
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: episode because I actually remember more of this episode because

479
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: that whole thing of like emotional memory is stronger because

480
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: there were more emotions throughout.

481
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: It's see, it sits closer in my mind.

482
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: But the visuals are always a real surprise, and that

483
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: like separation in hyperspace was a trip that looks pretty cool,

484
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: like when they took the the Phantom right like separated

485
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: in the middle of hyperspace. The way that they the

486
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: artists did that was really cool.

487
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, what have you seen two thousand and

488
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 6: one Space Odyssey? Like the colors And I wouldn't be

489
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 6: surprised if that was some sort of deliberate nod because

490
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 6: of what a cinofil one George was and I know

491
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 6: what Dave is, and because two thousand and one is

492
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 6: considered like that was like, oh, this was the foray

493
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 6: into beautiful masterpiece science fiction films, and the colors and

494
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 6: everything was very likened to that. So I was like,

495
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 6: oh my god, they totally went Stanley Kubrick on this episode,

496
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 6: Like how did they do that? Like this is incredible.

497
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 5: It's too much of an homage to not have been like, yeah,

498
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 5: deliberate and you know, thoughtful.

499
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, their frames are amazing.

500
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love that frame.

501
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 6: Like if we could get like a cell of that,

502
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 6: that'd be a cool thing to put up in an

503
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 6: office or something like Villowy's colors and everything.

504
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 3: That'd be really cool for sure.

505
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 5: Also, how bad is the moment where like, you know,

506
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 5: you forgive Cibo and he hears it and like bam, yeah, so.

507
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 4: Sick, right. I mean it just shows you that doing

508
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 4: that work within yourself. It does make a difference, like

509
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 4: it allows healing for everybody. It's it's an emotional maturity

510
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 4: that I think isn't practice often. But the fact that

511
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: that they decided to highlight it, it meant so much

512
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: to me personally because I'm always you know, trying to

513
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: do the right thing or you know, take the high

514
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: road or whatever it is, and it's not easy because

515
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: it does hold you back energetically, and you know, what

516
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 4: do they say, resentment is the poison you drank hoping

517
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 4: the other person tastes it, you'll, yeah, and they feel

518
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 4: they literally feel nothing. And so anyway, it was it

519
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 4: was a victory over that, and and that it was

520
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 4: so cool when Cibo I forgive you too, and I'm sorry.

521
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was so cool that visual where it like

522
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 5: pans back to Canon and Ezra and you're both like

523
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: you they are both like kneeling with their heads. Oh

524
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: my god, it's so cool. I had forgotten that moment because,

525
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 5: as you said, Taylor, it's been a minute since we

526
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 5: since we recorded you, certainly and almost as long since

527
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 5: we watched these. But yeah, I was like, oh snap,

528
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 5: that's so sick. I loved it.

529
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I feel like we can do like maybe

530
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 6: maybe it will be a bonus episode because I do

531
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 6: have a couple of friends of mine new word psychotherapists

532
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 6: and you know, huge Star Wars fans, and I feel

533
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 6: like this episode alone has so many mental health beings.

534
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 6: And just Vanessa, what you've been touched on with forgiveness,

535
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 6: which is, yeah, it sounds so rudimentary when you say it,

536
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 6: you know, and it's something that becomes more complicated as

537
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 6: you get older, as you know, like when you're a kid,

538
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 6: I'm quoting the show I've been doing a rewatch it.

539
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 3: This is us.

540
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 6: So this is probably why this is so fresh in

541
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 6: my mind, where it's like when you're a kid you

542
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 6: say I'm sorry, it's like a magic word.

543
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: Okay, it's okay.

544
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 6: But then all of a sudden, those words don't carry

545
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 6: as much weight as you get older because problem become

546
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 6: more complex. But so it's like, even though Ezraz says

547
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 6: those words because you can't go into a whole monologue

548
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 6: through his fores skype to forgive Zebo, there was so

549
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 6: much weight behind it, but it's like they both had

550
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 6: to forgive themselves as much as each other. But it's

551
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 6: done in like a span of ten seconds, and it's

552
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 6: so powerful, Like we could literally do I think a

553
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 6: three hour deep dive on those ten seconds alone, because

554
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 6: it's so profound and something that we can take out

555
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: of it. And the same thing that we talked about

556
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 6: Canaan's quote about everybody's afraid. But you know, it takes

557
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 6: more strength to be vulnerable than to try to put

558
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 6: on this bravado and pretend that you're not being bothered

559
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 6: by anything, Like to admit that you have a problem

560
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 6: takes more strength than anything else.

561
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 3: But they're seeing it without beating you over the head

562
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 3: with it.

563
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: You know.

564
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 6: It's so like like again, this the case study of

565
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 6: this episode alone, it's like I think, JC, we're probably

566
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 6: gont have to do a three hour deep dive on

567
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 6: this just just I can just make a note of that,

568
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 6: because there's there's so much in it, and also just

569
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 6: the all of you bringing it to life the way

570
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 6: you did, and even at the end, like Vanessa when

571
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: Harrah's talking to Cebo, like, I love that moment because

572
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 6: again on a lesser show, when Canaan says he needs

573
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 6: to be alone on a lesser show, it's like no, no,

574
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 6: you have to hear this right now, and then they

575
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 6: would tell or maybe that would be the cliffhanger, you know,

576
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 6: or like or Caro would actually tell Ezra, this is

577
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 6: what happened to your parents, and then that would be

578
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 6: the cliffhanger. But instead she respects his boundaries. She listens

579
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 6: to Canaan. Kanan also has a mad respect for Hara

580
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 6: as well, and again on a lesser show, I don't

581
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: think that would have happened. But here that's where those

582
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 6: little dynamics, you know, really make the big difference. And

583
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, when you watch a show

584
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 6: like This is Us that has those dynamics, those saying

585
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 6: dynamics are right here in this animated series.

586
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: It's pretty incredible to see.

587
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 4: And there was another nod to Falcrum, who at this

588
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: point is Ashley or Ahsoka, sorry, one of the same,

589
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 4: but the later at this point that's that's Ashley's character.

590
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 4: Because at the end of the season, Fulkrim is revealed

591
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: to be Ahsoka. So Cebo goes with Ahsoka. Is that right?

592
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: She says, you'll be safe with Fulkrim, And you say,

593
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: can I meet Folkrim? I say no, and then I

594
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 4: sort of shepherd him off the ship. Did I misunderstand that,

595
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 4: or that's.

596
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: How I understood it. To Fulkrim was was gonna give

597
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: him safety.

598
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: Right, probably also pick his brain for intel.

599
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 3: I would.

600
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interested this as tangential as I always do,

601
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: and this. I noticed something in this episode that I

602
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: was like, I've never noticed this, and this is Tya

603
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: or anyone.

604
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: Do you guys know what is on the left shoulder

605
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: pad of Sabine.

606
00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: Is it an owl?

607
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: I believe, No, the left one.

608
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 5: I have to look at a picture.

609
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: I should know it was. It's a wolf? What I know?

610
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: I was like, how have I never seen that?

611
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: Whoa?

612
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 8: Okay, no, I left on her left arm, on her

613
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 8: left the shoulder, the shoulders letter whatever. Yeah, it's like

614
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 8: a wolf with its tongue out. My friend, is that

615
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 8: tattoo on his leg?

616
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: Really?

617
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean not, it's not off of this.

618
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: He's had it before we did.

619
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: Not so cool anyway, Oh I find.

620
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 5: It silly that I don't. Oh my god, yes, look

621
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 5: this is my brain.

622
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: If you can see that.

623
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, and I was like, wait,

624
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: how have I never once seen this?

625
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, And.

626
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: It looks like the loaf wolves that we end up like, yeah,

627
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: you know, it.

628
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: Reminds me of It reminds me of Okay, one of

629
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: my this is un character. It seems not like this

630
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 5: would be true, but one of my favorite movies is

631
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 5: three hundred. It's a great movie.

632
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: It is a great movie.

633
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: It's just a great movie. Facts anyway, you know at

634
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 5: the beginning of that I have that movie literally memorized,

635
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: from like start to finish. I could probably act it

636
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 5: out for you.

637
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: Okay, there's a bonus episode one woman show of three

638
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 6: hundred car.

639
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: I will pay a dollar for that sake.

640
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 5: All the spartans and all the versions. Anyway, the wolf

641
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 5: at the very beginning where when he's a kid and

642
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: he's in the training, like he has to go out.

643
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 5: Do you do you remember this movie? Yes, that's what

644
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 5: that wolf reminds me of. But I should really really know.

645
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: But I was like, how have I never noticed that?

646
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: And I noticed the end this episode. I was like, oh,

647
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: that must be crazy. I wonder if that like changed

648
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: over the seasons or something.

649
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know I.

650
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: Did, right, because that's only her her kit changes. Yeah,

651
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: Oh hey, I'm not crazy. Wait, there was an owl

652
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 5: at some points.

653
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 4: So the three.

654
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Speaker 5: Which is I mean, if I had to choose, it's pressed.

655
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: That's my favorite iteration of Sabine. It's it's the owl

656
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: on her left. Yeah, call that I called that people,

657
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 5: That's not what it's called. JC helped me. What is

658
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: that called that little arm up shoulder hitch guard whatever? Yeah,

659
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 5: so I guess season one it was a wolf, like

660
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 5: a scary booking wolf with its tongue out.

661
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: Did you know there? If you google cosplay you can

662
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: buy her full cosplay costume.

663
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure I did.

664
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 2: Actually, I mean about the wolf.

665
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: I don't.

666
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, you were gonna dress, you.

667
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 6: Were doing your early May the you know, Calloween shopping,

668
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 6: waiting for.

669
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Speaker 5: It.

670
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 4: Says shoulder pads is how they describe it here to you.

671
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 4: But I don't know, Jesse, I know it's not quite right,

672
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: but that's what they say here.

673
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 5: I don't know the answer.

674
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 9: J C.

675
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: Taylor.

676
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 6: I'll twin with you with that being get up. We'll

677
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 6: be like the removed of Twins with shorts and agger.

678
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: And it's called a pauldron, Caldron. It's a pauldron, very nice,

679
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: brought to you by Randy. Randy, my tech assistant.

680
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 5: A pauldron is a piece of plate armor that protects

681
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 5: the shoulder and upper arms.

682
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: Look at this guy. Look at this guy j C

683
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Speaker 4: two point zero.

684
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Speaker 5: I think I thank you Etymology. If e Paulette and

685
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: Pauldron have anything to do with.

686
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: Each other, my goodness, podcast Deep.

687
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 8: Doesn't really appreciate the entertainment that you are here for, Merriam.

688
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: They're sorry I did bring that up, but I was

689
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: just surprised by it. And I'm sure fans who are

690
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: egoized they will be like, yeah, of course I know

691
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: what to be like.

692
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dodos like you know that. But I guess maybe

693
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: her owl pauldron is fresher in my mind and this

694
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 5: one was longer ago, so I but yeah, thanks for

695
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 5: bringing that up.

696
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: It just felt like an easter to me, like knowing

697
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: where it goes, I was like, oh wow.

698
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: I feel like.

699
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, And also just knowing how much

700
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 5: the creator of the show loves loves loves wolves. Yeah

701
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,479
Speaker 5: there's that, and does every I wonder I was gonna

702
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 5: ask a question to our audience that doesn't make sense.

703
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 5: I wonder if people know. I'm sure some of you,

704
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 5: many of you know, but I think Vanessa you'll know

705
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 5: the answer that the owl it's called a conviry after

706
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: Dave's wife.

707
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 4: Oh did I up? And I don't know, but I

708
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: love that.

709
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: That's cool. I feel doesn't it represent Aska in some way?

710
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: Like it is a connection because when we are in

711
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: the world between worlds the owl.

712
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 4: Yes, at the end of season three, I believe the

713
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: fight that she has in the Jedi Temple with Darth Vader,

714
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: and we don't know if she's alive or dead.

715
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: We see the that's two right end of two?

716
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 4: Was it two or three? Two two? I don't know.

717
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: I've lost he since some time. I'm sorry, the pandemic.

718
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: All of you.

719
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: I've seen all of that. I've watched the show.

720
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 5: I know Taylor, Well, we'll get there.

721
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 4: Well, for some reason, I thought it was season three,

722
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 4: but maybe I have no idea anyway, But the point

723
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: is there is an owl at the end of that.

724
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: But I don't know that it's technically an owl. It's

725
00:35:53,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: probably called what Tia said. J C will fill us

726
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 4: in what I do. I do think that this is

727
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 4: the part of the podcast where we invite all the

728
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: Sabine Cause players to demonstrate their coseplay, you know, in

729
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 4: response to this, and we can create like an ongoing

730
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 4: story with about a billion Sabines, and we can amplify

731
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: and share all the wonderful cause players that do s

732
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 4: I feel like this might be the episode to really

733
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 4: celebrate them. You know, I'm socials. I'm just saying, I.

734
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 5: Mean, shout out to all my Sabine Cause players I

735
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 5: have met. I've been lucky enough to meet a lot

736
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: of you in person, not as many as I would like,

737
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: but hopefully we can rectify that in the future. But

738
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 5: it never ceases to have made me like, how rad

739
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 5: these I would say, girls, but like all kinds of

740
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 5: all kinds of folks that cosplay Sabine.

741
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, how beautiful.

742
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: There'd work is and how like just like the commitment

743
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 5: and the artistry, it's really inspiring. Yeah, I'm not like

744
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 5: bowled over by getting to meet Sabine Couse players in

745
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 5: real life.

746
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: I think bonus content would be to have like a

747
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: cause playing celebration of some sort. But I'll have to

748
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: think about the parameters of it and where we could

749
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 4: do it, and.

750
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Speaker 6: We'll get there. And you know, if our audience is

751
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 6: going to demand live shows, then you know, then we're

752
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 6: going to give the audience what.

753
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: They want, and.

754
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 6: That we do not do a lot of Well, then

755
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 6: we'll stay here on Zoom and keep figuring it out.

756
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: Well, they can also join on Zoom, but you know

757
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 4: that'll that's doable. That's what I did. I told you

758
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: on my one of my live streams. I invited all

759
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 4: the heras on and we had one big I think

760
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: it was a Zoom, wasn't it. I think it was

761
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: a Zoom meeting and all the heros from all over

762
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: the world were I remember they were talking about the

763
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 4: struggle with the mom jeans. They were like, oh no,

764
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 4: you know, because they were from everywhere. They were really

765
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 4: going in on the belt buckle, the mom jeans.

766
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 5: Oh the oh yeah, like.

767
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: The struggle Yeah, no, no, no no.

768
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 4: I think the hair of pants are very high waisted

769
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: and cause a lot of strife. But what I love

770
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: is that there's like this Hara support group on IG

771
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: and I'm on the thing and that's where ta they

772
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: go on and on about how great you are, like

773
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: all the time, and you know, there are other topics

774
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: of discussion, but a lot of them are like does

775
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: anyone know what good lip color is best? For season four?

776
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: I love it, And they're like Clinique blah blah blah blah.

777
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: I can't remember the color of it, and I was like, oh,

778
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: good idea, and I google it there sure enough that

779
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: you know she has sort of a purple lipstick in

780
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: season four. I mean it's very handy. I love the

781
00:38:56,040 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: community is so supportive and welcoming of anyone in all,

782
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 4: a lot of people who There's probably a Sabine chain

783
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: as well that I'm unaware of. But what I do

784
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: is when I go to an event, I say what

785
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 4: are you? Who are you on IG? Follow me and

786
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: I'll put you on the DM list. And then suddenly

787
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: they it's like this hive mind of hera solutions for

788
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 4: Harah mom jene problems. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

789
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 6: Well, coming soon with our merch is going to be

790
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 6: space Mom jeans, so look out for that in our

791
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 6: online store. I will be first in line to get that.

792
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 6: So I think we're almost at the point where we're

793
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 6: going to invite our resident fact checker, but a couple

794
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 6: more things I want to point out before we do,

795
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 6: And I'm going to talk slowly to Gilbi hopefully get

796
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 6: JC a little more time to if he has to

797
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 6: get the information somewhere other than his brain, which even

798
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 6: though he doesn't have to go anywhere other than his brain.

799
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 6: So in this episode we have the device that Sibo

800
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 6: points out, the XX twenty three that can track a

801
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 6: ship while in hyperspace. Now, to my knowledge, I've never

802
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 6: seen this in any of the prequels original trilogy. It's

803
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 6: probably in the books, and if anything, JC will know

804
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 6: which book, maybe a Timothy's On book or something like that.

805
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 6: And then we'll let alone what Taylor lued to before

806
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 6: detaching in hyperspace to throw off the trail. Never seen that,

807
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 6: So this kind of adds to our rebels did at

808
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 6: first Hashtag in terms of trend setting in the Star

809
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 6: Wars universe. And the other thing is we have another

810
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 6: language that Sabine understands, and that is Hatise because Cibo

811
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 6: speaks Hottez and she's like, oh, he said this and this,

812
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 6: So add that to the tally JC. That's going to

813
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 6: be a very very long, very high count rather of

814
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 6: how many languages Sabine knows. And I think that's all

815
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 6: I have, and I'm going to just keep on milking

816
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 6: time just in case JC needs more time. But with

817
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 6: that being said, let's invite in JC for our fact

818
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 6: check l.

819
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Speaker 9: You guys got you guys got there on a lot

820
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 9: of this stuff before you needed me today. But I

821
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 9: will confirm a lot of what she said. I think

822
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 9: we talked about a little bit last episode. Cibo has

823
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 9: the Lobot cybernetic implant. I don't think we mentioned it

824
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 9: is an AJ six cyboard construct. We mentioned Echo has

825
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 9: the same one, so Eco, Lobot and Cibo all have

826
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 9: the same.

827
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: Head droid things on.

828
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 9: X X twenty three s thread tracker is made by

829
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 9: Seiner Company. They're the same company that's fell tie Fighters

830
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 9: and kind of supply the Empire with all of theirs.

831
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 9: It is supposedly, and I thought, John, I thought you

832
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 9: were going to get here. Supposedly is the same tracker,

833
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 9: not the same physical tracker, but the same model of

834
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 9: tracker that Tarkan Invader used to track the Millennium Falcon

835
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 9: to Yavin four in a New Hope.

836
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: Supposedly that's what they say.

837
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 9: You guys mentioned two thousand and one A Space Odyssey

838
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 9: as the Phantom fell out of hyperspace and the colors.

839
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 9: I also noted that I thought it was beautiful. It

840
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 9: appeared very like Star Trek warp Drive Colory or Proto

841
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 9: Drive from Star Trek Prodigy to me as well, which

842
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 9: obviously are have We're posts two thousand and one. Tia,

843
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,760
Speaker 9: you mentioned that the show didn't feel like a PSA

844
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 9: at one point, so I just went deep on PSA

845
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 9: lesson recaps at the end of shows. I don't know

846
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 9: if you guys remember those, but I'll give you guys

847
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 9: a little history lesson in terms of like when cartoons

848
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 9: started becoming PSAs. The first show to do it was

849
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 9: He Man, and then G I Joe, which we all

850
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 9: know is where knowing is half the battle came from

851
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 9: Gem in the Hologram's Mask in the eighties, and then

852
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 9: they went away for a little bit and were revived

853
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 9: with Captain Planet in the nineties, and Di's gone out

854
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 9: of fashion again. Cibo's voiced by Peter McNichol. The major

855
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 9: thing that I noted about him, John, based on your

856
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 9: opening you mentioned ghost Busters, he played the guy who

857
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 9: you know worships Vigo the Page. I'm not sure, Vanessa,

858
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 9: you were kind of right in a bunch of different spots.

859
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 9: He played Kronos in Justice League Unlimited, Doc Spectacic.

860
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, man, I was Mary Jane in that sorry,

861
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: I got confused. Those are both Greg Weisman shows, Uh

862
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 4: Doc ok and Spider and Spectacular.

863
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 9: Retacular Spider Man. And then he was in Young Justice,

864
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 9: but he played Professor Ivo and Am in that show.

865
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right.

866
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I conflained in there.

867
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 9: So from a certain point of view, you were right

868
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 9: on multiples with that one statement.

869
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,479
Speaker 3: I love that choice of word. It's a certain point

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Speaker 3: a certain point of view.

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Speaker 9: John, you mentioned the Ali McBeal quote, which the proper

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Speaker 9: quote is, if you think back and replay your year,

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Speaker 9: if it doesn't bring you tears, either of joy or sadness,

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Speaker 9: consider it wasted. By John John Allie mc vanessa. You

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Speaker 9: mentioned the quote resentment is like drinking poison and waiting

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Speaker 9: for the other person to die. Is the proper quote

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Speaker 9: originally attributed to Saint Augustine Malachine mcclark, and.

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Speaker 2: That's right, quote Augustine.

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Speaker 4: But.

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Speaker 10: Mega Catholic No okay, anyway, The person who is credited

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Speaker 10: with bringing it to popularity, most recently Carrie fish Essa marshall.

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Speaker 2: Oh look at that, yes night.

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Speaker 9: We don't see at the end, but we do see

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Speaker 9: fulkrim ship. It's a cr ninety class Carillian Corvette or

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Speaker 9: Blockade Runner, which is also the first ship we see

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Speaker 9: in Star Wars episode for a New Hope you guys

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Speaker 9: got there. You did a pretty good deep dive from memory.

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Speaker 9: On Sabine's shoulder armor, one of the shoulders is painted

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Speaker 9: with a dejeric board pattern that has the number five

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Speaker 9: on it for Specter five. The left one, though changes

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Speaker 9: season to season. The wolf tailor that you noticed is

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Speaker 9: called in a Nuba. It isn't a loth wolf, but

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Speaker 9: it is called in a Nuba, which is looks like

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Speaker 9: a wolf. Embo who shows up on the show had

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Speaker 9: a domesticated one. The other then there's another creature that

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Speaker 9: is on there for some time, probably around season two,

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Speaker 9: and then the convour the owl is season three, and

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Speaker 9: then in season four there's a pergole on the shoulder oh,

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Speaker 9: which is like, how is how is that?

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Speaker 4: Miss? I don't know?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like if anyone should know that

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Speaker 5: my shit. But I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to put you on blast. That's sharing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it changes often.

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Speaker 9: We see that owl, that convoy uh con The convoy

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Speaker 9: is the Ahsoka Convoy is named Marii, who is representative

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Speaker 9: kind of of the Daughter from Mortis from the Clone

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Speaker 9: Wars episode shows up in chapter thirteen of The Mandalorian.

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Speaker 9: Also in Ahska Part eight. The first appearance is the

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Speaker 9: Mystery of Chopper Bass from Rebels also shows up in

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Speaker 9: Twilight of the Apprentice, Wolves at the Door only as

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Speaker 9: part of a mural and the World between Worlds, which

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Speaker 9: is when this convoy that is associated with the Soka

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Speaker 9: first gets its name.

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Speaker 1: Maria, You're like, this is a pretty chill one.

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Speaker 2: You crushed it.

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Speaker 5: It's like, I don't have much.

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Speaker 8: I just have the making model of every single thing,

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Speaker 8: and they're currently ringing this time on the New York

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Speaker 8: Stock Exchange.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we need to have like a trivia

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Speaker 1: because I'm sure fans are listening, will know a lot

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Speaker 1: come on. That would be fine, And I'm putting all

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Speaker 1: my money on you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 9: I will tell you there are a lot of kids

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Speaker 9: out there who are far younger than I am, who

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Speaker 9: have watched Rebels and Clone Wars like ten times each.

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Speaker 9: I am.

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Speaker 4: I am not as good as a lot of the

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Speaker 4: kids out there.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 9: I still.

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Speaker 3: We got your back.

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll corner you like you know when boxers walk

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Speaker 6: on they have everybody walking them to their corner, like

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Speaker 6: we'll walk out to like the.

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Speaker 3: Triba with you. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, like that picture of Mike Tyson and like Magic

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Speaker 6: Johnson's walking with them. It's like from the eighties and

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Speaker 6: well we'll walk hard like that. So uh, thank you JC,

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Speaker 6: as always for the fact check. It's always epic. Thank

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Speaker 6: you to our listeners as always, remember to rate, subscribe,

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Speaker 6: we will feature it here on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll share with Tia.

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Speaker 6: Tia will give her Tim Gunn type critique and maybe

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Speaker 6: tell you to make it work and maybe not. I

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Speaker 6: don't know, make it work. But if anything else, I

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Speaker 6: think it's time for our outro, which is what cue

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Speaker 6: the music is?

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Speaker 8: That?

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Speaker 3: Is that what I think?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Cue the music.

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