1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where running backs have always mattered 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: to us. I'm Greg Rosenthal and I'm here with Nick 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Shook where you are taping this show, Nick. June twenty third, 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: it is officially the dead zone of the NFL season. 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Spoiler alert. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: Football is not back for the next couple of weeks, 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: and yet we're going to be cranking out some fun 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: NFL Daily content. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: No one I'd rather do it with than. 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: You, Nick, you know, judging by your tone in the 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 3: way that you made that claim about running backs, I 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: don't know if I believe you, but I definitely believe 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: you that we're in the dead zone. Surprisingly, we're we 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: are operating in a world now in which the NFL 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: dominates i'd say about fifty weeks out of the year. 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 3: So to have two off not bad, good job. 17 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Well, people will still want to come up with it. It 18 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: is a weird thing, yeah, for people who aren't as familiar. 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: This is the one time of year not only a 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: lot of media goes away and we'll get into our 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: schedule coming up in the next few weeks, but the 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: teams are just literally out of the bill until at 23 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: least after July fourth. So even though we're getting closer 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: to training camp when NFL Daily is truly back to 25 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: daily again. It is the one time of year even 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: though we're close, that teams are off. And yet nick 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: running backs have always mattered to me. I don't know 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: why you're coming. 29 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: It is at me. 30 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the coolest, the most fun position 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: to watch, and so we're going to talk about them today. 32 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: We're going to draft the best twenty running backs in 33 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: the league, back and forth, who we would want to 34 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: be our running back in our backfield this year. Kind 35 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: of a snapshot of where the position is at. And 36 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: it's better than it's been in a long time, you know, 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: since we last taped a show that was kind of 38 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: tape that day. It was Patrick and Omar. Great job 39 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: by them. They did the JayR Alexander news. Not a 40 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: lot of news has popped up since, some updates injury wise, 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: that Anthony Richardson fully expected to be back for training camp. 42 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: I personally thought it was interesting that the Chiefs confirmed 43 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: their first round pick Josh Simmons fully ready for camp 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: including contact. 45 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: That's interesting. And then CJ. 46 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Moseley, the longtime Jets and Ravens linebacker retired so happy 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: trails to CJ. 48 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: Moseley. 49 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: A really good player who just couldn't get medically cleared 50 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: to play another year. But a hall of very good guy, 51 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: five second team All Pros, like a very steady captain type. 52 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: And that's about it. That's all you need for the 53 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: news for the last like three or four days. 54 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you think about Mosley's career, I prefer you 55 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: think about his career with the Ravens instead of the Jets, 56 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: because he went to the Jets as a high price 57 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: free agent. They obviously had their struggles. He did make 58 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: a Pro Bowl in a second team All Pro in 59 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, but again, yeah, he had some health 60 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: issues in his last season and just felt like he 61 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: never quite lived up to the contract. And yet he 62 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: was a very good football player over the course of 63 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: his career, especially if you think. 64 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: About his Ravens years where he was at his best. 65 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: You know what, I think he gave the Jets leadership 66 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: that year he had where he got the second team 67 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: All Pro. He was out outstanding, one of the guys 68 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: that everyone said that played arount him second in Defensive 69 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year back in twenty fourteen. Interestingly, was 70 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: one of the few people that completely opted out of 71 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: the COVID season. If you remember, he didn't play at 72 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: all that season, but was a really good player for 73 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens and yes, had some nice years for the Jets, 74 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: So happy trails to him. Let's get to the draft. 75 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: I will give you the first overall pick. Again, the 76 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: parameters who we want playing running back this year. It 77 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: is not a lifetime achievement award. It is not even 78 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: just who is the best last year? Who is our 79 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: type of guy? It's not fantasy numbers because we're taking 80 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: everything into account, receiving, blocking, whatever you want. Who are 81 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: the very best right now? Looking forward? You have the 82 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: first pick. 83 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 4: It's gonna be chalk. 84 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: And really, what I found in this exercise was that 85 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: I like rooms more than running backs individually. Like, I'm 86 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: a big fan of certain rooms in the league, and 87 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: we're not drafting rooms. So I'm gonna go with the 88 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: guy who's on the cover of Madden twenty six. 89 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: I'm going with sa Kwan Barkley, simple as that. There's 90 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: no argument. 91 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: I think there could be an argument. 92 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: It would be just that he's coming off this incredible 93 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: season and maybe we'd knock him for that that the 94 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: history of running backs or can you do it like 95 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: two years in a row and that this year is 96 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: some of the other top five guys, like a slightly 97 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: more consistent player on a snap to snap basis. You 98 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: could have said that Nick. In Saquon's career before this 99 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: last one. The thing that changed in Philadelphia was, for instance, 100 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: his success rate in New York was always a little 101 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: hit or miss, was kind of low big plays, but 102 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: a lot of negative plays, and that was partly because 103 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. But this last season he was 104 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: hitting the six to seven, the eight yard games in 105 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: addition to the eighty yard games. 106 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was a player that was three down 107 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: back and was a home run hitter and a closer, 108 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: which we hadn't seen from him except for in early 109 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: in his career before you know, he kind of those 110 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: injury struggles that he ran into in his final years 111 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: with the Jets. And I think more than anything, yes, 112 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: we'd like to see a guy rush for two thousand yards. 113 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: It's fun to watch that. It's cool to be like, 114 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: I remember where I was when Saquon broke two thousand yards. 115 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 3: I remember that season. But what really I thought was 116 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: most special to me, beyond the Super Bowl victory was 117 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: the fact that he was able to overcome all the doubt, 118 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 3: all the naysayers, all the well, Saquon might never be 119 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 3: what we thought he was going to be because of 120 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: all these injuries. No, he just went out and rush 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: for two thousand yards and was an awesome running back. 122 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: Can do I think he's gonna do it again. 123 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: I don't know. It's really hard. It's basically almost impossible 124 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 4: to do it two years in a row. So I'm 125 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 4: gonna say no. 126 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: But also, if he's the player he was last year, 127 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 3: which I think he is, I'm and I'm picking him 128 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: just for this year. He's at the top of my board. 129 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 130 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: He had four hundred and ninety six yards over expected 131 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: according to next Gents. That's in the second half of 132 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: last season. That number nick would have been more than 133 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: any running back in an entire full season since nineteen 134 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: or since twenty eighteen when they started keeping truck. So 135 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: just in the second half, he was getting more extra 136 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: yards than any runner in a full season since twenty eighteen, 137 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: except for one guy who did it over the course 138 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: of last season. We'll get to him in a minute. 139 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, he's the man. He would have been my 140 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: number one pick. It gets interesting here. I think the 141 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: next three backs in my mind could go in any order, 142 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: but I'm taking Bajohn Robinson. It's my team, it's who 143 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: I want. Last year, it kind of snuck up on 144 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 1: me that he had eighteen hundred and eighty seven yards 145 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: from scrimmage and fifteen touchdowns. And one thing that I 146 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: love about him is he gets more than what's blocked. 147 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Since he entered the league, he has fifteen more mistackles 148 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: forced than anyone else, So that's over a three year span. 149 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry's actually second in that, so that shows that 150 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: that's been a skill set since day one. 151 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: But what gets me about him is just how complete 152 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: he is. 153 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: Obviously he's good as a pass catcher, but I mentioned 154 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: success rate hasn't been as consistent for Saquon as great 155 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: as Saquon was, and I'm sure we'll get to Derrick 156 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: Henry sooner than later. The league leader in success rate 157 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: last year, and that you can measure it in different ways. 158 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: Different come and he's measured differently, but essentially it's getting 159 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: a certain amount of yardage or a first down on 160 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: plays like over four yards on first down. The leader 161 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: in success rate was Bijon Robinson last year, so he 162 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: was extremely consistent in addition to giving you all the 163 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: eye popping plays that you expect from him. 164 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, when I think about the Falcons, I 165 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: think about the players that are actually quite talented that 166 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: maybe don't get the exposure league wide that they should, 167 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: and he's one of them, because people don't necessarily pay 168 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: attention to the Falcons all the time. They did early 169 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: in the season last year because they got off the 170 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: hot start, but then they fell apart down the end, 171 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: and it feels like they're in the shadows there. Players 172 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: like Bijon are always in the shadows there. Kyle Pitts 173 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: was the subject of that before and now he's going 174 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: into a pivot year, of course, so I just want 175 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: them to succeed as a team so that then he 176 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: has elevated Bjhon Robinson to a larger stage that the 177 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: rest of the football world can appreciate him properly, because 178 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: those numbers that you just listed absolutely do not lie, right. 179 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: He he has improved steadily in each one of his seasons. 180 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: I think we expect running back to come into the 181 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: league and just blow the doors off and rookies are eligible. 182 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: By the way, Nick, I don't know if I mentioned. 183 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: They're eligible and fantasy drafts too. 184 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, they're eligible. He has gotten just a little 185 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: bit better. He came in already I think better than 186 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: people realize, like a top ten type of back, and 187 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: he's gotten just a little savvier, a little better in 188 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 1: each one of the seasons. 189 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: All right, give me who you have number three over. 190 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: My number three is going to be Derrick Henry. 191 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: And this was a pick that I may not have 192 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: made even a year ago because I thought, look, this guy, 193 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: a lot of the tread has been worn off those tires. 194 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: He's gotten a high volume of carries over the course 195 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: of his career. He's been the rushing leader multiple times. 196 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 3: He is the model of being a superhuman running back 197 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: who will throw defenders through the air if you try 198 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: to encounter him and take him home with an arm tackle. 199 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: But what he did last year within Baltimore's offense told 200 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 3: me that he's still had plenty of gas left in 201 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: that tank. Do I think that he's necessarily going to 202 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: flirt with the career year this year? No, because they 203 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: spread the ball around so much. But that's what makes 204 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: him so effective. So I know we're talking about just 205 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: running backs on there and not necessarily taking into account 206 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: all the circumstances around him, but you can't evaluate him 207 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: without considering the fact that he plays with Lamar Jackson, 208 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: that he plays behind an offensive line that got a 209 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: lot better than most people would expect last year, and 210 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 3: an offense that's balanced enough to throw over Shot Bateman 211 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: and z Flowers so that they can't just load the 212 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: box against Derreck Henry, which helps him succeed as much 213 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: as he did last year. I believe in him for 214 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: at least one more year as a guy who's going 215 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: to hit home runs, who's going to run guys over. 216 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: He's going to go over one thousand yards, and it's 217 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: going to be a bell cow back for this team. 218 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: So that's why I take him with my second pick. 219 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: It's crazy if you look at the numbers, they were 220 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: almost identical to his best season. You know, when everyone 221 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: remembers he ran for twenty one hundred yards from scrimmage, 222 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: ran for over two thousand in that COVID season where 223 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: he was Offensive Player of the Year, and that's what 224 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: you think of as his peak. And yet last season 225 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: was actually right there. He in a lot of ways, 226 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: he was better because he took fifty less carries to 227 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: get there, so he led success rate. I mean in 228 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: terms of he led an EPA per play or total EPA. 229 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: He actually ended up having more rushing yards overexpected than 230 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley last season. By almost any measure, it was 231 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: one of the best rushing seasons of all time. I 232 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: saw another interesting stat. You next Gen does a lot 233 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: of work for us that you know out of the pistol. 234 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: When they ran the pistol, he had the best like 235 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: running back season out of the pistol of any running 236 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: back ever forty nine for four hundred and ninety two years. 237 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Like he was ten yards per carry out of the pistol. 238 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: So he somehow is getting better as he gets older. 239 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a strong pick for number three, but 240 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: I would have disagreed. 241 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: I actually would have had him fourth. 242 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: I would have taken Jamiir Gibbs fourth or third, and 243 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: so I'll take him fourth now. And again I'm just thinking, 244 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: I am projecting a little bit forward, and I'm thinking 245 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: about what I would want on my team, and to me, 246 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: he's just so versatile. He led the NFL in terms 247 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: of the yards per carry between the tackles. And that's 248 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: the thing I think people don't really understand with Gibbs. Obviously, 249 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: you have the home run ability that Saquon and Derrek 250 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: Henry have. You know, Gibbs had the highest explosive rate 251 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: explosive play rate in the league in terms of plus 252 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: ten plays. But he's very physical, like he can run inside, 253 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: he can run over people, and to me, he's just 254 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: hitting his prime. So I'm going to Miror Gibbs next. 255 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was up there on my list too, And 256 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 3: I actually went back and forth with my choice here 257 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: because this is where I think it gets a little interesting, 258 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 3: because it's skews toward preference, and I like a guy 259 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: who I can trust to make defenders miss, to break tackles, 260 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: to be very hard to bring down, and to also 261 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: make a difference out of the backfield as a pass catcher. 262 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: I like Bell Cows, I like Josh Jacobs. That's where 263 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: I'm taking him here. And this might be a little 264 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: high from what most people would expect, but you know, 265 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: you look at like success rate you want to talk about, 266 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 3: you know, different running backs with higher success rate. 267 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: His actually was lower than it was. 268 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 3: Outside of the top ten, really out of the top 269 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: fifteen when it comes to next gen stats. And yet 270 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: when I think about a per down back, if circumstances 271 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: are right, the play is schemed up properly, he's going 272 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: to make a play. He's going to get those extra yards. 273 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: He's going to be a guy that I can look 274 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: down my roster and say I would give him the 275 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 3: ball twenty five times a game and feel perfectly fine 276 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: about it because I know he's a workhorse. 277 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: So that's why I would take him. 278 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, bigger workload certainly than Gibbs, although for instance, gives 279 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty carries so less, but fifty catches, 280 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: so it gives you that receiving game. 281 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: Jay Jacobs does that too. 282 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: He's made people miss in terms of mistackles since the 283 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: day he entered the league. No, he would have been 284 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: either next or two away on my list. He does 285 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: have a little bit of an every other year thing, 286 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: but he's kind of earned that spot. 287 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: Almost reminds me of a little of. 288 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: A Man Green back in the day for the Packers 289 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: in terms of a guy who's like never the best, 290 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: but man, it's really awesome to have a guy that 291 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: you can give the ball to three hundred times and 292 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: you'll know is like a top seven or eight back 293 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: and you don't have to worry about him. I think 294 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: that's the part of Josh Jacobs's career that he's in. 295 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: Now I am going to take a rookie. Now, I'm 296 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: going at Ashton Genty. I love a lot of other 297 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: running backs in the league. And I know you might 298 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: think this is high, this is this is sixth overall, 299 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: But I just thought, like, would I rather have Ashton 300 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: Genty or let's say Christian McCaffery is going to come 301 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: up at some point, or whoever else is coming up next. 302 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: I am content, I'm confident enough in Genty. I'm going 303 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: sixth overall. It's not a position where you know players 304 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: have to ease their way into the league. Often they 305 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: peak rather early, like even great all time backs are 306 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: great right away, like an Adrian Peterson, like Ladanian Tomlinson. 307 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: So the contact balance, the consistency I think he's going 308 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: to bring. 309 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: I'm believing in Genty. I don't need to see anything. 310 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: No, And you know what, this is a rare case 311 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: in which I would agree with a high evaluation of 312 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: a rookie coming into the league. Usually I'm very anti like, 313 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: don't put especially when it comes to fantasy. You don't 314 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: put a lot of stock and a guy who hasn't 315 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: played it down in the NFL yet, because you're just 316 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 3: you're you're playing blind, essentially. But if somebody was buying 317 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: stock in teams this year, you are buying all the 318 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: stock in the Raiders. So I am not at all 319 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: surprised that you're taking Ashton genty here and and what 320 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: you just said makes a whole lot of sense because 321 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: what you see on tape translates to the pro game. 322 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 3: It's just a matter of how fast can he hit 323 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: the ground running? Can they scheme it up well for him, 324 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: because you don't want to put him behind an offensive 325 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: line that's not good and he has to try to 326 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: be a superhero just to gain a few yards. But 327 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: if it's in a vacuum, yes, I totally agree with you. 328 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Well, part of the reason I did it nick it out. 329 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm curious if you would how you would answer with 330 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: your next pick. I thought, like, what would NFL team 331 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: who would ret NFL teams rather have for twenty twenty five, 332 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: even if it's somehow in a weird universe where they 333 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: could only take him for one year. Would they rather 334 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: have Ashton Genty or would they rather have the guy 335 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: they already have who's coming up on our list. I 336 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: bet almost all of them would take Ashton Genty. 337 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: I really do. 338 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: But maybe I'm wrong, and maybe we're all wrong about 339 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: our evaluations. 340 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: Who do you got? 341 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: No? 342 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: I actually I agree with you on that too. My 343 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 3: next pick is this is where I get a little uncertained, 344 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: a little nervous, because I have a hard time putting 345 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: stock in running backs who can't stay on the field. 346 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: But I'm going with it anyway, and I'm going with 347 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, who never got rolling last year because of injury, 348 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: and his season ended prematurely and it was just a 349 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: wash or a waste of a season for him. But 350 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: I believe in the talent, and I believe that he 351 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: would still have one healthy season in him if we're 352 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: only playing for one season, And there are few players 353 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: who are as dynamic and as explosive as he is 354 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: when he's fully healthy. So at this point I'm getting 355 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: in with this value Christian McCaffrey. 356 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: I'm taking it. 357 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, at first, I had him high on this list, 358 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: And as I kept doing, I kept moving him down 359 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: and down, and I realized he's only been healthy nick 360 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: three out of the last seven years. 361 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: So maybe this is before. 362 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not enough to me. It's just good enough. 363 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: He did the too straight in San Francisco. But then 364 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: when you have a completely misseason, essentially last year, then 365 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: it reminds you of all the other ones that happened 366 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: before that with Carolina, and that to me, that's part 367 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: of the position, unlike any other where availability is really 368 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: a trait, it's really a skill. It's why I feel 369 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: fine taking a guy like Kyron Willy eight, because I 370 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: want to have some love for the consistent player. 371 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: A fifth and success rate. 372 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: In his two seasons, he's thirteen hundred and fifty yards 373 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: from scrimmage, fourteen hundred and ninety yards from scrimmage. He 374 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: played the most snaps last season. This shocked me. Of 375 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: any running back in the league that surprise you. You 376 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: think of them like bringing in some other backs. But 377 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: he's there blocking, He's there as a terrific receiver. He's 378 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: there to pick up five when you block three. He's 379 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: just consistent, And to me, he is a guy I 380 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: am just trusting to be out on the field. So 381 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: it's a rare position where I'm not just going for ceiling. 382 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: I actually would rather have him than McCaffrey because I'd 383 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: rather just have a guy that I know is going 384 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: to be there, even though I know at their peaks, 385 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: obviously McCaffrey is a better player. 386 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah that, And you know, Kian Williams value to the 387 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: Rams is even more noticeable. It's obvious, painfully so when 388 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: he's not on the field, because they are so much 389 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: worse as a running team without him than they are 390 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: with him on the field. He is a special type 391 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: of player and a guy that a lot of people 392 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: didn't see coming and kind of forget about until he's 393 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: back in the field and makes a big play, and 394 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: then they're just constantly reminded of how good he is 395 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: and they have to accept that he's an excellent running back. 396 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: So I agree with you on that, and I'm not 397 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: surprised by the total snap count because it's visible. Basically, 398 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: if he's available and he's playing a lot, the Rams 399 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: are going to win games, and if they win games, 400 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: will make the playoffs. And that's basically how last season went. 401 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 3: So that all tracks I'm going to go I'm overdrafting here, 402 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 3: and this is because I believe that the Bills. 403 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 4: Are treating this man wrong. And it's James Cook. 404 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: It's James Cook because I again workhorseback and a guy 405 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: who if you actually get him in the right scheme 406 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 3: and run with him with intent, you're not in the 407 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: Ken Dorsey offense. You're more in the Joe Brady offense, 408 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: and you're handing it to him many times a game, 409 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 3: and you're letting him get going. He can be a 410 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: big time difference maker. And we spent on this time 411 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: paying attention to Josh Allen everybody else, and rightfully so. 412 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: But he's a big part of that offense that I 413 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 3: think isn't getting the love he deserves from that organization 414 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: as he goes into a contract year. And frankly I 415 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: would pay him and keep him and put him in 416 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: the right situ and ride him as a bell coow. 417 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 4: So that's why I take him this high. 418 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. 419 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: I had him a few spots lower, but I don't 420 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: think it's crazy to go James Cook that high. You 421 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: look at the last couple of years very similar in 422 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: terms of yards from Scriage fifteen sixty two years ago 423 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: than twelve sixteen last year, but out of the eighteen touchdowns, 424 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: and he's my type of back that he's just an excellent. 425 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: Receiver, a versatile receiver. 426 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: You want him on the field, even though they have 427 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: a great third third done back so they don't need 428 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: to like lean into it. Cook can do absolutely everything. 429 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: So I'm fine with that. I'm struggling with my next pick. 430 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: If it was actually my team, that this next group 431 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: is all very close, I had to Cook a little lower. 432 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: But I'm just going to give James Connor some love 433 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: here to wrap out of the top ten. Yes, his 434 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: first two thousand yard rushing seasons were the last two, 435 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: but he did get over fifteen hundred yards from scriage 436 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: last year, and he's really improved as a receiver. He's 437 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: very high in terms of forcing mistackles, and he would 438 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: rank really high in a stat that doesn't exist that 439 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson I think would be the all time leader 440 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: in at least of players that I watch, which is 441 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: running hard per snap. Joe Mixon is going to be 442 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: high in this one. I'm sure he'll come up later. 443 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: He just the effort on every single run is outstanding. 444 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: He's getting better as he gets older, and so there's 445 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: a couple of flashier options out there. 446 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 2: But I'm going James Cooknam I mean James Connor number ten. 447 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: I like that pick because, much like Kian Williams of 448 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: the Rams, when you could basically predict the Cardinals outcomes 449 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: last year, whether he had a great game or not, 450 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: like if he was near one hundred yards in the ground, 451 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 3: they probably won the game. 452 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: If he was bottled up, they probably lost. 453 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: And he was so important to them in that regard 454 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: and is such a hard runner. 455 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: I totally agree. 456 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of his and every time he 457 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 3: had a big game, I enjoyed it very much. I 458 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: am gonna take a guy who statistically resonates with those 459 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: who like to scroll down spreadsheets, but those who like 460 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: availability little on the sideline here, because that's where he 461 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: spent a lot of his time over the last few years. 462 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: And it's Jonathan Taylor from the Colts. He finished last 463 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: year with fourteen thirty one rushing yards and eleven touchdowns, 464 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: and yet here he is going eleventh in our draft. 465 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 3: It was quiet because of the Colts in their dysfunction 466 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: at quarterback and his checkered injury passed that. You know, 467 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: he hasn't been a reliable player, but when he's there 468 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 3: and he's healthy, and sometimes it's more in spurts than consistent, 469 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 3: it still looks really amazing. So to get him here 470 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: at eleventh, I'm gonna take that all day. 471 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: I love it. It's exactly where I had him. But 472 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: there's a reason if James Cook is kind of my type, 473 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: I think Jonathan Taylor is not. Not that big plays 474 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: aren't incredibly valuable, but it's why I'm not going to 475 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: knock Kyen Williams too much. If your twenty five to 476 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: thirty yard run would have been sixty if it was 477 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor for a touchdown like that is a big 478 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: edge for Taylor. But the consistency eight on and always 479 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: looking for home runs, grinding out the four or five 480 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: six yard runs, and then more importantly the receiving. This 481 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: he has an old school like box score only one 482 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six yards as a receiver, just kind 483 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: of a zero in that department. Not that he can't 484 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: catch the ball though he has some pretty high profile drops, 485 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: but they also just don't trust him as a blocker, 486 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: and to really understand the full thing. So I think 487 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: that's that's why he is a great runner. That's but 488 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: that's also why he went eleven. 489 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna. 490 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: Go Aaron Jones number twelve. Just a guy I love, 491 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: and I had this feeling that he kind of faded 492 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: at the end of last year, and then I really 493 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: like by the end he actually had over fifteen hundred 494 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage. 495 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: He was not great in the red zone. 496 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: He's not a true just give the ball to him 497 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: and he's like your main guy. Like, how many guys 498 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: we already have gone through? How many of those are there? 499 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: Really not that many. He actually hasn't lost his speed 500 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: at all. He is the sixth fastest player according to 501 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: Next Gen Stats on a per snap basis in terms 502 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: of just the miles per hour that he is running. 503 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: So the speed is still there, and I'm going Aaron 504 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: Jones number twelve. We're going to take a quick break 505 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: and we'll be back and wrap. 506 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: Up the rest of the Running back Draft. They're back. 507 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: Back on NFL almost daily. Yeah, you probably noticed this 508 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: time of year, we're taking a little bit of a 509 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: step back, but this week we have regular shows throughout 510 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: the week. We've got our crew with Jordan Rodrieg and 511 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf. For our next show, we'll have a Friday 512 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: show as well, and then we've been working on a 513 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: really exciting project that's going to start going up next 514 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: week and so everyone be on the lookout for that. Also, 515 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: thank you to everyone who's listened to me lately and 516 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: been writing reviews on iTunes and Spotify giving us five 517 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: star reviews. It really helps us out subscribe on YouTube. 518 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: We appreciate you all, all right, Number thirteen overall in 519 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: the running back draft, Nick, this is your most important pick. 520 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: Oh, this is my most important pick. 521 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: Wow, because it came back after the break and got 522 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: to keep the listener engaged. Okay, cool, well, listener, pull 523 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: up a chair, because we're going to pick a guy 524 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: that I think Greg overlooked, a guy that's been one 525 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: of Greg's favorites over the course of this man's career. 526 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 3: It's Alvin Kamara from the New Orleans Saints, a running 527 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 3: back who fits exactly what Greg looks for on a 528 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 3: three down basis. Let's just look at his numbers from 529 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 3: last year. Yes, he finished at nine hundred and fifty 530 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: rushing yards and six touchdowns. He played in fourteen games, 531 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: but he added another five forty three through the air 532 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: with a couple of touchdown catches at greg I think 533 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: back to a couple of years ago when the Saints 534 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: offense was just dreadful, which we could say for most 535 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: of the last three years, and it was a game 536 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: in Seattle in which their defense won. 537 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: I think the final score might have been ten. 538 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: To six, and it felt like the entire Saints offense, 539 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: Jameis Winston at quarterback was just drop back, let Alvin 540 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: Kamara run a choice route and just throw it wherever 541 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: he decides to go. And that's how we're going to 542 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: move the ball in that game. And that's the type 543 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: of running back he can be. I don't know if 544 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: he's the home run hitter. In fact, I don't think 545 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 3: he's the home run hitter that he used to be. 546 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 3: But he's still an every down guy that presents a 547 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: threat that, when he's healthy, is still one of your 548 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 3: top weapons on the field. So to let him come 549 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 3: down to thirteen, I'm just going to scoop him up 550 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: here and ride off into the sunset all happy. 551 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: Well, you're just doing this to annoy me. 552 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: I told you during the break that I forgot someone 553 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: and I should make this a sponsored segment. Every single 554 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: one of these drafts there is someone. I was like, 555 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: oh wait, I meant to take him away earlier, and 556 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: I said that during the break. I didn't say who 557 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: it was, and you guessed it it was Commaned. 558 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Well that's the benefit of knowing you for 559 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: a decade. 560 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: I want to apologize to that man. 561 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: So this is why you got to listen to the 562 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: pod and not just look at the rankings that we're 563 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: going to put out. 564 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: On social We should still do it. 565 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: Because I had Kamara rang to eighth, and it's not 566 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: that I forgot him. Like I got my sheet, I 567 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: printed it out like an old man. We've got a 568 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: printer here, and for some reason I spaced looking past. 569 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: I had him eighth. 570 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: I had him ahead of McCaffrey and Connor and even Taylor. 571 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: It kind of snuck up that he proved what I 572 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: had believed for the last handful of years, which is 573 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: that if they could just block for him, he really 574 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: hadn't declined as much as the numbers showed that I 575 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: thought he still had juice. That I thought he's very 576 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: intelligent reminds me a lot of Frank core in terms 577 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: of his intelligence in the passing game. And then yeah, 578 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned it last. I mean he went for fourteen 579 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety three yards from scrimmage. He had the 580 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: highest target rate by far of running backs in the league. 581 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: Actually had one of the highest target rates of any player. 582 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: I think it was top five including wide receivers. So 583 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: if he's on the field, what that means is they're 584 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: throwing him the ball like sixty eight catches for five 585 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards and you're like, Okay, he's just 586 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: catching a bunch of dumpops. No, he's running a lot 587 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: of different routes. And yes, he doesn't have the long speed. 588 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: He just doesn't. 589 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, top five Nick according to Next Gen 590 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: Stats in speed crossing the line of scrimmage. So that's 591 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: that initial burst and when you watch him, I see 592 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: that too, And yeah, he's those long plays that maybe 593 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: earlier in his career, like that's not quite as there, 594 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: but he can he can increase you if you can block, 595 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: and so I think he's gonna have a good year. 596 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: I really regret that I let him. 597 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: If I could trade I would trade him up higher, 598 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: but I'm not allowed to. 599 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: Well, the only trade I'm accepting is Ashton Genty for 600 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: Alvin Kamaras, So I don't think that's all. 601 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: That's too rich. I would give you Kyron at the 602 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: eighth pick. I don't even know what that means. Since 603 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: we're not actually playing fantasy here, I will go my 604 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: next pick. That broke my heart. I'm just such a 605 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: space at it. Maybe we can put a little note 606 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: with the top twenty rankings that we put out that 607 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: that Greg just forgot, forgot and apologizes Bucky Irving. 608 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I love this pick. 609 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: The highest rate of Forcemiths tackles in the entire league 610 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: over five yards per carry on inside runs and outside runs. 611 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: There were there were some number numbers, and this is 612 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, in large part due to the great Bucks 613 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: offensive line. But when teams played single high safety and 614 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: Bucky Irving was on the field, like he averaged a 615 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: preposterously high h yards per carry, just like you literally 616 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: could not play single high against Bucky Irving. You took 617 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: that extra guy from not in the box like he 618 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: is gonna have some space, he is gonna make you miss. 619 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: And the numbers, like the advanced numbers and the raw 620 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: numbers would actually tell you he was already like a 621 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: top eight to ten back. I'm not ready to go there, 622 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: but I'm happy to put him deside. 623 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, ninth and success rate right behind Saquon Barclay by 624 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 3: just a zero point one percent difference. A player who 625 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: finished with one hundred and eighty six rushing yards over expected, 626 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: and a guy. 627 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 4: Who I think is just scratching the surface. 628 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 3: One of my favorite guys out of the combine in 629 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: his class went to Tampa. 630 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: They needed a running back. 631 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: He took Rashad White's job rightfully, so he's on the 632 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: path the success. I love that pick up. Now you've 633 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: kind of wiped out a little bit of what was 634 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: remaining of my board. But we're gonna go to a 635 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 3: guy that I think, Look, yeah, he had a couple 636 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 3: of ankle injuries last year. Yes one was caused, if 637 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: not both, by hip drop tackles. But we're going with 638 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: Joe Mixon in Houston because I think Joe Mixon was 639 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: kind of not treated poorly, but undervalued a little bit 640 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 3: by Cincinnati. They col let go of him for a 641 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: seventh round pick. They were gonna cut him. He ends 642 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: up going to Houston. He has a really good start 643 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: gets hurt, misses some time, comes back, has a nice little, 644 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: you know, period of games before he gets hurt again. 645 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: If he was healthy over the course of the season, 646 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: he'd be an unquestioned weapon in that offense more than 647 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 3: he is. And the idea of him with the Texans 648 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 3: with Cjstraw, with everybody they have receiver, and then adding 649 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: in whatever is left of Nick Chubb. 650 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: I'm just I feel good about him going into the season. Now. 651 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 3: It might be one of his last productive seasons of 652 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: his career, considering how long he's been in the NFL. 653 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: But he's just a guy that I like. 654 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: He runs hard, he can hit the home run, he 655 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: can make plays. He's just one of my favorite running 656 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: backs to watch. So that's one I take him here. 657 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the only question is really if he can keep 658 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: not just on the field, but when he comes out 659 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season and he's fully healthy, 660 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: he looks one way, or sometimes if he has a 661 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: week or two off and then it's coming back, like 662 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: he looks one way and then you see it fade 663 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: just a little bit if he loses some of the bursts, 664 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: some of the physicality. But he's averaged over thirteen hundred 665 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: and fifty yards from scrimmage over the last four years, 666 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: so extremely consistent. 667 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: This is right where I had him in the draft 668 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: as well. 669 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm going back to another rookie here for sixteen because 670 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, I am confident enough 671 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: in Amari and Hampton. He is one of my favorite 672 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: like running back evaluations over the last handful of years. 673 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: I think he is complete, like a great blocker. I 674 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: think he's gonna matter in the passing game. He can 675 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: be a big playmaker. I think he in a perfect world, 676 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: he's a little bit bigger and a little more complete 677 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: of a Jonathan Taylor type of player. Probably not gonna 678 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: make you miss as much as a lot of the 679 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: running backs ahead of him, but that's okay when you 680 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: have the juice. And I think that the third down 681 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: availability that he's going to have, so I would take 682 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: him over the rest of the veterans on the list. 683 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: I feel good about the unc back at sixty. 684 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. I like that pick too. 685 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: And this kind of goes back to what I was 686 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: saying about rooms is I really love the Chargers room. 687 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: The balance between Najee Harris and o'mari and Hampton is 688 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 3: really exciting for me, especially with their identity as a 689 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: team that wants to be physical, that wants to win 690 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: on the ground. They have two different backs that can 691 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: do a lot of different things. They can balance them 692 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 3: well together and make quite a tandem. I think it's 693 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: going to be very benful, beneficial for them going into 694 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Next up on my list, we're gonna 695 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: go Devon a Chan and I'm going there because of 696 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 3: the big play capability, because he is a guy you 697 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: always have to account for on the field, because of 698 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 3: that home run speed that he has. I don't see 699 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: him as an every downback. I do see him as 700 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: the best option that they have in that backfield who 701 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: could grow into something more if the rest of their 702 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: offense could get back on track, because they certainly weren't 703 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: last year. I like his raw potential, the untapped potential 704 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: that we've yet to see him what we've already seen 705 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: from him with the big plays. 706 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean, a ridiculously efficient like rookie season. Last year 707 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: was kind of the opposite, where felt like he left 708 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: yards on the field. Not great blocking, certainly, but he 709 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: was hunting big plays. He's a guy who won't look 710 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: good in terms of yards over expected. I think he 711 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: was under because he was trying to make things happen. 712 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it's a reach, but I 713 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: had him more like around twenty five. But I think 714 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: it's more styles. It depends what you're looking for the 715 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: runners at this spot. It's kind of like pick your favorite. 716 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: I do think one back has been underrated in our 717 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: draft more than any other, and you know, I've taken 718 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: other guys over him, so that's on me too, and 719 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: that's Tony Pollard, Like what does Tony Pollard need to. 720 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: Do to get a little more respect. 721 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: He's actually been consistent in terms of production, despite you know, 722 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: you think of him at the end of Dallas getting hurt, 723 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: but that was at the end of a season over 724 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards from scrimmage in three straight. He was 725 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: sixth last season in terms of yards after contact. So 726 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: he's a guy who actually makes plays on his own. 727 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: I thought last season was about as good as he's 728 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: ever run, but really no one noticed because it was 729 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: in Tennessee, and so he was someone if you were 730 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: still sticking around with your game pass condensed or whatever. 731 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: Deep into Week thirteen fourteen, it was like man Pollard 732 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: is the guy I think that they wanted him to 733 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: be when they when they brought it him to Tennessee, 734 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: the guy that Dallas almost never let him be, Like 735 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: a real one, a type of guy, complete guy. And 736 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: really nothing I could say was wrong with Pollard. Maybe 737 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: not like the number one guy you would pick to 738 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: like get two yards when it's fourth in gold and 739 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: like run through tackles, but not a zero in that 740 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: respect either, And so I really like him here at 741 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: at I'm glad he got out the list at least. 742 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that too. 743 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: And I think that he, unfortunately is a representation of 744 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: the mismanagement of the running back position on the part 745 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 3: of the Dallas Cowboys over the last two to three years, 746 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: because they had a chance to make him their guy 747 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: and stick with him, and they let him walk, and 748 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: he walked it Tennessee, where he obviously didn't have He 749 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: wasn't in a good scenario because their quarterback situation was 750 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: in flux and you know, they're still a rebuilding team, 751 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: but the talent is undeniable there I and everything that 752 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: you just said I totally agree with, and that if 753 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: he's in the right situation, if they get better as 754 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: an offense, you know, with cam Ward being there and 755 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: they've showed up the offensive line again. 756 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 4: I think we could see great things for him because 757 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 4: he's got the juice for sure. 758 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: He's making seven million dollars a year too, Nick Like. 759 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 4: I know he's chaged. It doesn't Did you not keep him? Dallas? 760 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 4: What are you doing? 761 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: There is a level of veteran running back that becomes 762 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: available in free agency that the second contracts are very 763 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: much worth it because then the Titans don't have to 764 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: worry about that position, and that is not a lot 765 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: to pay. 766 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: No, your last pick shook? 767 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: Is it last? 768 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: Making sure you get whoever you want on this list 769 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: needs to be back. 770 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 3: Well, we're throwing it back. I'm gonna take the other 771 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 3: half of the Lions tandem. I'm going David Montgomery. That's 772 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: a guy who I watched and multiple ones in his 773 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 3: last year. Just win the war of attrition, the ground 774 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: and pound. I'm bigger and stronger, I'm gonna run harder 775 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: than you, and I'm gonna close this game right now 776 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: by running between the tackles and doing what my coaches want. 777 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 4: I want a guy like that on my team. 778 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: I don't care if he doesn't bring everything to the 779 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: table in every area that you get from other running backs. 780 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 3: That's a guy that I want in my depth chart 781 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: and the capability, Like you just said, to get fourth 782 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 3: and two two yards, I'm giving it to David Montgomery. 783 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 3: I can trust him. He's a gritty type of old 784 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 3: school running back. 785 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 4: I love him. He's my last pick. 786 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: He was first in the NFL last year in success 787 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: rate on under center runs, So it's exactly what you say. 788 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: How did the NFL used to be played like under center? 789 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna get you four to five yards. He was 790 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: absolutely my next pick two. We've reached twenty and now 791 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: it's like, who do I want to make sure is 792 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: on this list because a lot of them aren't my types. 793 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: Some options I'm just gonna throw to give people some love. 794 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,479 Speaker 2: We didn't. 795 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: We didn't pick Trayvon Henderson and I'm not going to, 796 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: but just wanted to send him some love. Pa Checko's 797 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: coming off a bad season, so he's not going to 798 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: get drafted. Chewba Harvard really improved, but I think doesn't 799 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: quite have the juice to make this list. I like 800 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: what I saw out of Tyrone Tracy. I think Chase 801 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: Brown is an ascending player, but ultimately this last spot 802 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: comes down to three players for me, either Breese Hall, 803 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: ken Walker or Remandre Stevenson. Now it was the next 804 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: three on my list, Okay, Now, in my heart, Remandre 805 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: is more my type of guy. He's coming off a 806 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: season where he fumbled, he was not good. He's not 807 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: coming off of a good season. Neither neither is Breese Hall. 808 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: And yet like Remandre is to me the most complete 809 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: of these guys, and like the guy that would be 810 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: my style. But I'm so you know, anxiety ridden about 811 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: being called just a Patriots homer. I will take ken Walker, 812 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: who I had written down next, who it is fun 813 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: to have a runner who can run one way, look 814 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: like he's got to get tackled for five yard loss 815 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: and run for forty the other way. And he was 816 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: hit behind the line of scrimmage so often and was 817 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: playing in such a bad situation. I know Vermandre was too, 818 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: but ultimately, man, that guy. It would be great to 819 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: see him behind a good offensive line, and I think 820 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: can be a really dynamic playmaker, has the highest ceiling. 821 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm torn. 822 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: If it was actually my team, maybe I would take 823 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: Rimondre I think he's got a bounce back season coming 824 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: up and is a really good NFL player, But I 825 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: will go Kenneth Walker for just the highlight, real place. 826 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't hate this pick at all for everything 827 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 3: that you just stated, I'm on board with that. I 828 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: am curious though, because it was such a forgettable season 829 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 3: for bresee Hall, where does he because we don't know 830 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 3: what the Jets are going to be They have a 831 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 3: new identity, new quarterback, new everything else, But like, do 832 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: you see a bounce back year for him that reminds 833 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: us of the guy he was? Because you want to 834 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: talk about home run hitters, he was a home run 835 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: hitter a couple of years ago, and that's maybe that's 836 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 3: more my style. 837 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 838 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: I'm kind of bouncing between the two. But do you 839 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: think that that is within him going into twenty twenty 840 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 3: five and maybe even twenty twenty six, even though we're 841 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: not considering that year in this draft. 842 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely, this is a confirming my prior situation. There is 843 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: something about running backs of you know it when you 844 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: see it, and I like instincts. I like the feel 845 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: of making people miss in a small area in a hole, 846 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: like the vision, like I think Remondri's very good at that, 847 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: even though he's not going to be a big playmaker. 848 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: He's more like the Frank Gore type of mold. Yeah, 849 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: Breese Hall, I've never like wrapped my arms around too, 850 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: because to me, he doesn't feel as talented as he is. 851 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't feel as instinctive as a back as some 852 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: of these other guys. Just like a truly great natural 853 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: just runner. But he's an athlete and he could make 854 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: this ranking look very disrespectful with a big season. 855 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 4: He could. 856 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 3: He could, And you know what, we can eat that crow. 857 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 3: That's fine. That's how this thing works. 858 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know if the Jets are like 859 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: totally in on him that he was like dangled a 860 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: little bit, so I think they'll they'll spread it around. 861 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: But it is a position where opportunity makes all the 862 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: difference in the world. 863 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: So who knows, Like maybe uh, maybe an R. J. 864 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: Harvey or or quinchin Junk And I'm trying to think 865 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: of some other players that didn't come up to the 866 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson Travis et and maybe he'll bounce back like 867 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: any of those players could bounce on this list for 868 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: next year, we will put it out and we will 869 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: see who we get made fun of the most shook. 870 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be a minute until we 871 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 1: have you back on NFL daily, So enjoy the time off. 872 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know what you're doing this offseason. 873 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's that's all good, because yesterday I 874 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 3: narrowly avoided getting a sunburn on the top of my head. 875 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 3: So maybe by the time I come back, I'll be 876 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 3: looking like a tomato. 877 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: You don't know, impossible, And don't don't celebrate the Calves 878 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: suddenly being like the favorites in the Eastern Conference just 879 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: because halliber And and Tatum are injured going into next year. 880 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 4: Well, you know, nobody, nobody celebrates. Nobody celebrates injuries. 881 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: But the Cavs had their own injuries in the Eastern 882 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 3: Conference semifinals that they had to deal with too, So 883 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 3: you know, we'll see, we'll see how it goes. 884 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 4: It's a long way away. 885 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: Watched Game seven on a flight back to LA and 886 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: it broke my heart. 887 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not a patient. We will be back 888 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: in your feed on Wednesday morning. 889 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: Yes, Colleen Wolf, myself and uh Jordan rod Red and yeah, 890 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: I can't lie this. 891 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 2: This is the part of the season. Football is not back, 892 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 2: but we're gonna we're gonna make you want to listen anyways.