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Speaker 1: Podcast actually doesn't start now. I just got your ass. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's Sam with some show announcements. First of all, we're

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Speaker 1: doing a Stradio Lab live show on March thirteenth in

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Speaker 1: New York City at the Bellhouse. We are so excited

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Speaker 1: to be back in I'll say it our home. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be huge, and so far we can announce

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Speaker 1: that Joe Firestone will be a guest, so it is

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Speaker 1: a must see. Then I say I'm doing an hour

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Speaker 1: in New York City on March eighteenth at Union Hall,

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Speaker 1: which will be to die for. And then I'm doing

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Speaker 1: my hour three times in LA on March ninth, March

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth, and April first, So please come out so

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Speaker 1: that I don't look a damn fool.

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Speaker 2: XOXO. Enjoy the epp Bye.

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Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna do a little intro. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: so sorry you won't be able to notice it. In fact,

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Speaker 1: it's already started. Podcast starts now. Hello all and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Radio Lab. Well, we are coming off of an

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Speaker 1: amazing weekend in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Of course, should we talk about We can talk about

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Speaker 2: it a little.

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Speaker 3: We need to talk about very quickly because I really

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Speaker 3: want to bring our guests. We need to talk about

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Speaker 3: how the trend of everyone being angry and this is

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Speaker 3: not about politics.

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Speaker 2: This is, yes, but it is about politics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think I know what you mean, Like

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Speaker 1: everyone's literally hanging on by a thread. But it is

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Speaker 1: because on a day to day level, they're just like

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Speaker 1: consuming the most horrific news of all time. Correct.

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Speaker 3: I what we're talking around is at our San Francisco show.

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Speaker 3: We had two shows in San Francisco. One was like amazing,

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Speaker 3: Literally this is my chosen family, my community. I can't

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Speaker 3: wait to all grow old together in the big co op.

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Speaker 3: But the second one, which was generally like enjoyable and

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Speaker 3: I had a very nice time. There were a lot

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Speaker 3: There were literally fights breaking out in the audience among

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Speaker 3: broke out among between two people about AI because someone

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Speaker 3: she was like, you shouldn't do that earlier. Then someone

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Speaker 3: yelled out something like genuinely like ablest yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: There was some joke about the word special and then

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Speaker 3: someone's like it's like special ed and we were all like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 3: It's not that kind of show.

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Speaker 2: Then there was a straight couple. I told you this.

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Speaker 2: There was a straight couple.

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Speaker 3: Where the man really didn't want to be there and

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Speaker 3: he clearly had been dragged by his girlfriend or wife,

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Speaker 3: and he did this thing where to fuck with her.

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Speaker 3: He would laugh at non funny parts, like at pauses,

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Speaker 3: and then she would be like, stop doing that, like

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Speaker 3: it to like fuck with her. I keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: And then when we put up a photo of Sam

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Speaker 1: This is San Francisco. You guys invented him. We don't

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Speaker 1: know this guy. Everyone starts booing and I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: guys are all his employees. As far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 2: They had the syndrome of mentioning something is the same

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they had that syndrome bad. I said something.

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Speaker 1: I said something about this makes it sound like we're

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Speaker 2: We're not.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I'm outside my own body. Like hearing two comedians

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Speaker 3: being like they were the woke crowd in San Francisco

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Speaker 2: That's that's not what we're saying.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, we're more left wing than anyone,

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Speaker 3: I said, I said something about Bill Cosby. It was

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Speaker 1: Thenld joke was full of taste, completely full of completely chic.

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Speaker 3: It could have it could have been on the runways

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really spring summer ninety two. I'll remember, Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: And so I said, you know, like Bill Cosby, And

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Speaker 3: and the only person that can help is Bill Cosby,

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Speaker 3: So please vote in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: No, they got really, really upset. I will say it

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Speaker 3: I felt like if we had been there for like

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Speaker 3: And we were at a comedy club and there are

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Speaker 2: They're drunk, and they're saying there's a two drink minimum.

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Speaker 2: They're blackout. They're blackout, So they were being cranky. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: Most embarrassing interests of all time, which is amazing to

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Speaker 2: You also bring in someone who's like a really good.

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Speaker 3: Life and I'm only now realizing how humiliating as well.

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Speaker 1: You have to start at the bottom every single time

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Speaker 1: we do this, so please going to the podcast Perfume Genius. So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I immediately cutting you off. So how's

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Speaker 2: It's good. Yeah, yeah, I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 1: You know, just to let the people in a bit,

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Speaker 4: I can't tell if I'm like hungry or scared of this,

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Speaker 4: I think I'm just sort of I'm more scared all

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Speaker 2: Of I'm mad about being scared. I guess that's true.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we think mad about being scared is kind of

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Speaker 1: Whereas being scared about being mad is very like angry

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Speaker 2: Right? Like you just know that you're gonna lose control eventually.

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Speaker 3: I find that it's interesting seeing people on mass move

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Speaker 3: it's all about choreographing. It's such that all of us

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. I think they're finding

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Speaker 4: Yeah to me, yeah, fuck Mary kill sad, angry or scared.

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Speaker 4: I guess fuck mad? Right right, Well, I think it's

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Speaker 4: what's left scared and sad?

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Speaker 2: Scared and sad?

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Speaker 3: You would wanna you know, I sort of would fuck maybe,

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Speaker 2: I could marry scared. Do you think so? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Scared is like scared scared you can kind of work with,

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Speaker 2: Like, I know you're scared, you're on guard.

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Speaker 3: There's something less passive about, well, they're scared, almost disintention

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Speaker 3: in touch with your feelings. Yeah, because you're like, I

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Speaker 3: It's also the most realistic. It's like, yeah, no, you

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Speaker 4: If they're just are they just sad, and they're not scared,

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Speaker 1: Ever, No, they're just sad. There are Mary just sad.

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Speaker 1: Really wow, I think I would make kill scared.

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Speaker 2: Kill scared. And every morning you're like, how's it going,

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Speaker 2: It's like still sad, sad.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well I'm gonna go out.

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Speaker 2: Just say oh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: We do this other game on this podcast where instead

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Speaker 3: of Mary kill, you have to assign each thing to

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Speaker 3: Which one is is Danielle? In which one is Alana?

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Speaker 2: Alana is the she had the gun in the movie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mused, Right, she's mad, she's angry, the tall one.

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Speaker 2: She's not scared or sad, though, is she?

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Speaker 1: But I guess for now, for now, she's I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's fear there. I think there's fears.

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Speaker 3: She is the most fear based of the three of them.

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Speaker 3: The middle she's sad because she's like she's in charge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They could have been my straight topic on time say more, Yeah, please,

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Speaker 1: I can't write. I was like, can you even say

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Speaker 3: We're both we both are we both love him. They

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Speaker 3: They're very They're very like exactly who Heim would be.

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Speaker 2: So they're your co workers. Do you guys see each

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Speaker 2: other like music?

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Speaker 1: I actually have never seen them in interesting you were

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Speaker 1: never seen them never one, never seen him, never seen him,

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Speaker 2: That is so shocked because we've heard about them being seen,

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Speaker 3: They are constantly being seen. They're kind of one of

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Speaker 3: their main jobs is being spotted at restaurants by people

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Speaker 3: we know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that she had the gun in the

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Speaker 4: way the Bob.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I like that. No, that was good.

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Speaker 2: That was a really good album. Yeah, her being in

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Speaker 2: the movie. I love that song. Well.

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Speaker 3: Our other connection to them is that STI we can

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Speaker 3: stop talking about this, you know. St I think fashions

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Speaker 3: herself a stand up comedian and part of you know,

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Speaker 3: I've seen them.

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Speaker 1: She's the one for me, though, I think, well, she

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Speaker 1: is definitely the silly, fun the tall one. It's complicated

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Speaker 1: because she'll tell some story that's like I texted someone

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Speaker 1: up and realized that had auto correct it to anal

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Speaker 1: and like, and then she's like, and then that'll transition

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Speaker 1: into her bank song. I mean, you're laughing, No, you're laughing.

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Speaker 1: I mean it must be an amazing joke. It's always banter.

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Speaker 1: What's your relationship with banter?

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Speaker 2: Actually? Like on stage?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you bantering? Oh god, you don't really bad

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And Alan, my boyfriend's always trying to get me

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Speaker 1: I'm so bad at it. What's like the worst experience

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Speaker 4: I just usually mumble and then I kind of get

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Speaker 4: and then I kind of keep doing it. Eventually talk

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Speaker 4: about like shit, shit and poopulation and poop.

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Speaker 2: Huh. People love shitt and poop, they do.

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Speaker 4: But then like I do like a really intense ballad

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Speaker 4: I can phase into that very quickly. I can go

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Speaker 1: But maybe if I'm like curating an arc to the show,

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Speaker 3: So what percentage of your audience would you say are

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Speaker 4: I have no idea, like I can't get a like

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Speaker 3: You hit both poles, because it's either you hit both poles.

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Speaker 3: It's either I think you are very lol. And then

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Speaker 3: the music is also very occasionally very very serious curious.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to make them go together more. But in

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Speaker 1: To be very separate to it was also very satisfying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I mean? It made me

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Speaker 4: I don't know because I was tweeting about tweeting about

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Speaker 2: Other people that were like I remember that.

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Speaker 4: It was just like she was on her own trying

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Speaker 4: I don't think I could tell, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We'll see how I try to take.

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Speaker 3: Are combining You're you're saying it used to be they

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Speaker 1: To comp I feel like the album coming soon, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, just like not not.

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Speaker 2: Feeling like they can't exist together.

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Speaker 3: Even I would say even just like the latest album,

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Speaker 3: there's like cheekiness, cheeky. There's a cheekiness that maybe isn't

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Speaker 3: an although I don't know, but you're back into it.

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Speaker 2: It's more like like cheeky, like outwardly cheeky. But like, okay,

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Speaker 2: the video where what's the video where the Big Bear

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Speaker 2: porn stars? Hood hood? Yeah? Hood? Like that is combining

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Speaker 2: L O L Yeah, that's true. The song isn't the song?

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Speaker 3: Having a song that's so serious and then a video

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Speaker 3: that's so stilly is it's very Darren Aronofsky's mother.

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Speaker 2: I think I need to rewatch that. Ya that's the baby, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Right before, Like, were you like serious in your day

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Speaker 2: Were you a serious person? No, I don't think. I

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Speaker 4: Like when you were serious inside, I was, I can

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Speaker 4: be serious inside outside, I don't think. I think I

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Speaker 2: Being serious too much. You were like juggling kind of.

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Speaker 2: It was just like, I don't I don't know. It's

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Speaker 3: So, what's your relationship with serious George? I think that

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Speaker 3: I think I get off on being like, well, my

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Speaker 1: John stewarting where you're like tearing up and it's like

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Speaker 3: This is crazy, And I fundamentally don't trust people who

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Speaker 2: I mean the worst is like poets.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, and this brings in college. I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is really funny, and I was like, that's actually

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Speaker 1: the most serious thing ever written.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm actually thought.

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Speaker 4: Things couldn't exist at the same time because people want

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Speaker 2: To let it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, have you ever written

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that joke.

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Speaker 1: Probably probably yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if you were going to write banter, pre write

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Speaker 2: Dating New York City, that type of thing.

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Speaker 4: but I guess, but it's sort of just like I

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Speaker 2: Going to take an American seat? Is really good?

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Speaker 1: That that's a little classic comedy, that's classical comment? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: would you do it when you were abroad?

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Speaker 2: I would?

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Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, I wanted to do. I had this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so now we're fully into stand.

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Speaker 4: Up kind of Yeah, but I would just do it

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Speaker 4: I didn't really follow it through. It's kind of just

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Speaker 3: Often because your boyfriend Ellen is on stage with you,

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Speaker 4: He's much more serious than me on stage, like really yeah,

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Speaker 4: And so I kind of rebel against him by being

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Speaker 3: But he's also telling you off stage you have to

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Speaker 3: do more banter, and then he's getting on stage and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he is really good at it. Like whenever

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Speaker 4: we have to do like the front facing camera things,

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Speaker 4: I can't. It takes me like eight hours to do

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Speaker 4: And it's supposed to be like for DoorDash, like you

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Speaker 2: It was more serving.

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Speaker 4: They were gonna pay me to just do like sign

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Speaker 2: And I tried for like nine hours to do it.

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Speaker 4: And then I finally made one and they said that

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Speaker 4: and that my clothes were dirty.

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Speaker 2: That was another thing.

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Speaker 4: They said, Wow, well it was like intentionally dirty. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, but I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just so good at it. You put the kar on.

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Speaker 4: He's just like very sensual, like strong voice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a good way.

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Speaker 4: So I think if he was in like front facing

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Speaker 4: And he's been playing shows on his own, like solo

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So he is doing stories, but he's still serious. It's

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Speaker 1: That helps a lot. Now we're getting no, that helps

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Speaker 1: a lot. My god, the doordashtream would love him.

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean his clothes would be just so clean.

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Speaker 1: I can already tell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we want deep voice, clean clothes straight to camera.

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Speaker 2: That sounds amazing.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe what you should do is just sort of

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Speaker 1: do this and then he can do it. He can

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Speaker 2: You should do that.

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Speaker 4: We should do that at the show. Actually so unserious.

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Speaker 4: If he was my arms the whole.

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Speaker 3: Time, But then you're doing like your most serious songs

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Speaker 2: That's a good idea, and you're fully doing that. You

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Speaker 1: And you should have like a morning radio soundboard with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or I thought about that. Have you?

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Speaker 3: I actually have you specifically with fart noises or something

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's more more it's hard like if the song's

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Speaker 1: And it would be so satisfying at the same time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just because I like when things just.

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Speaker 4: Like are something and then like, oh it's just something else.

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Speaker 2: I like that. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, it can be little.

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Speaker 3: It can be like the sound from the very beginning

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Speaker 3: of Oops, I did it again, Like ah, I like

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Speaker 3: I'm bumming everyone out. But here's Brittanysa. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 3: really good idea. Do you ever like get a stomach

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you do about that?

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Speaker 4: I just do the show anyway? Really, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm really good at that.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm really freaked out, I'm sick, I'm hungry, like

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Speaker 2: Now. It didn't start out like that.

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Speaker 4: But I've been doing it for so long that and

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Speaker 3: I feel that, Yeah, I'm like, oh right, this was

443
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Speaker 3: literally my dream that I gave everything. Yeah, I do

444
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Speaker 3: think musicians often I'm not saying it's easier to walk in,

445
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 3: but it's just because it's much more like you're escapist

446
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Speaker 3: and you're occupying a character.

447
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: It's it's slightly.

448
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Speaker 3: Easier to forget that there's something else in your mind,

449
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 3: whereas with stand up you have to go up and

450
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Speaker 3: like chat with people.

451
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Speaker 1: Well, I've always wondered, like, because obviously you're not like

452
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Speaker 1: getting laughs like you're doing music. But I'm like, do

453
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Speaker 1: you ever are you ever like damn, I fucking bombed

454
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Speaker 1: that one? Or are you like that really?

455
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Speaker 2: Well? It's yeah, you can tell the energy. You can

456
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Speaker 2: feel bombed for music. I don't know if you're right.

457
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Speaker 4: Like, we'll leave stage and the drummer will think it's

458
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Speaker 4: the best show of the tour, and I'll think it's

459
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Speaker 4: the absolute worst one because nobody really has a good

460
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Speaker 4: read on like the energy, you know.

461
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Speaker 2: What I mean.

462
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Speaker 4: I'll feel like there's a sparkle in the air and like,

463
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But I think I was

464
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 4: just like horny or really into it because and then

465
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Speaker 4: I just assume everyone has asmr of that across the board.

466
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Speaker 2: But I don't know if that's true.

467
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Speaker 1: Interesting, but I guess laughter and applause, But sometimes feel

468
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Speaker 1: are shy.

469
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes people are shy. They don't clap, they don't laugh

470
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Speaker 2: even though they think it's funny.

471
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Speaker 3: Well, and then sometimes an applause can be overcompensating. Like

472
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Speaker 3: often I will go to a show or do a

473
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Speaker 3: show or something and it's not going super well, but

474
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Speaker 3: then people will clap extra hard to be like you tried. Yeah,

475
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Speaker 3: which is of course one of the most the biggest humiliations.

476
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is humiliating. Being nominated for a Grammy for

477
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Speaker 1: your cover art.

478
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Are you like so you just liked me for

479
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 2: my body or my waist? Yeah?

480
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Speaker 1: And it happens on Sunday. Yeah, I've never been before,

481
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: and I'm going, are you gonna meet all of your coworkers.

482
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Speaker 2: Like the Hymes?

483
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Speaker 4: I didn't even think about that. When does this come

484
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 4: out after that? After I meet them? Yeah?

485
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Speaker 3: We can we can delete all the time content after

486
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Speaker 3: you meet them. Is there anyone you have beef with

487
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Speaker 3: that you wouldn't want to run into at the Grammys?

488
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: Not like like public beef? Yeah or private? You can

489
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Speaker 1: make it public now.

490
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Speaker 4: Think I've always wanted to like fight another thing. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 4: but be in a nice way. More for fun, Yeah,

492
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Speaker 4: for charity, for charity, you know. But do you have

493
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Speaker 4: a beef with anyone?

494
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Speaker 2: No? No, God, I probably do.

495
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Speaker 1: I just can't think of it. No, of course you'll

496
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Speaker 1: you'll see red when you're at the Grammys. There's people

497
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Speaker 1: that don't like oh their music. Oh, sure, like like.

498
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Speaker 2: We can do it?

499
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, we're not supposed to do that. We're

500
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Speaker 3: not supposed to do that. We know we're not we

501
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: know we're not supposed to do but we all like

502
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Speaker 3: that's why we want to. Yeah, I love some people's

503
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 3: music so much.

504
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Speaker 2: To those the.

505
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Speaker 1: Thing, Okay, what do you say, one person? One person

506
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Speaker 1: you hate? It's even yeah, and then we'll move on.

507
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: And then I love cap Power Okay, yeah.

508
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Speaker 1: I don't care for I'm trying to think of one

509
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Speaker 1: that it won't like, won't.

510
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Speaker 2: Hurt me or them? Yeah, yeah, they won't. You don't

511
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Speaker 2: like all the people that like, I don't like there.

512
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Speaker 1: They're just like nice little people. I don't want to

513
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Speaker 1: say anything bad about no.

514
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Speaker 2: No, no, sorry, Who's who? Wait?

515
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Speaker 1: Name some people and I'll say if I like them

516
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: or not. Musicians because I can't think Geese. Camera in Winter.

517
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: I like Camera Winter. Zara Larson.

518
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Speaker 4: I don't really know about her very much. That blonde

519
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Speaker 4: I think panther. Yeah, great, I love her.

520
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Speaker 2: She requested to do the podcast no video, I'm not

521
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: that's cool. Yeah, I'm kind of like, now you're shy. Yeah, Republic.

522
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Speaker 2: She's so good at videos.

523
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Speaker 1: I know she's like very little like fians, like, maybe

524
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Speaker 1: she's just like fun. Maybe she wants to be like

525
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Speaker 1: off camera being like or not have to worry about it.

526
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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, well she it was. There were a

527
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Speaker 1: lot of stipulations. It was like remote off camera.

528
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Speaker 3: I'm like, like, are you gonna get build an ai

529
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Speaker 3: to have your voice? And you just don't want us

530
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Speaker 3: to know and it's not even going to be you

531
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Speaker 3: and it's just saying something in you being like, that's hilarious.

532
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Speaker 2: I love door Dash. That would be awesome. She would

533
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Speaker 2: be really good at it. My god, clean cloths.

534
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Speaker 1: I'm trying like, I really want to get you to

535
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Speaker 1: say no, no, no, no.

536
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Speaker 2: We stop. I have to stop, we have to stop.

537
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: But it's hard. I'll keep Yeah. I like her. Yeah,

538
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: we've recently done a one ady on her.

539
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Speaker 1: We love.

540
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 3: We didn't understand her initially and then we were like,

541
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: now we get what you're doing.

542
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: I read an article about her. Did you read the article? Yes?

543
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: I didn't read the article in the Times? You think so? Yeah?

544
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: Read an article Taylor Swift.

545
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Speaker 3: So our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in

546
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Speaker 3: this segment we gauge your familiarity with in complicity and

547
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 3: straight culture by asking you a series of rapid fire

548
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: questions where you have to choose one thing or another thing.

549
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: And the only rule is you can't ask any follow

550
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: up questions about how the game works, otherwise you will

551
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: get mad at you and make you talk about more musicians.

552
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, can't no follow up question? Correct?

553
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Speaker 1: Correct, Okay, okay, perfume, red scare or renfair.

554
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: This is what I like preferences. That's a question. No

555
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: front teeth or young roast.

556
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Speaker 1: Beef roast beef Toyota Tacoma or Williams Sonoma Williams Soma.

557
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: Uh, cowering in fear or showering with a peer.

558
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Speaker 2: A peer will shower with with my friend William H.

559
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Speaker 2: Macy or weezy f Baby, weezy f Baby, weezy f Baby.

560
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Speaker 2: I like William H. Macy too, but I want to

561
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Speaker 2: know more about joining the army or stunning by its

562
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Speaker 2: blind me.

563
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Speaker 1: I want to join the army you again, Okay? Fishnet

564
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Speaker 1: stockings or cishet mockings.

565
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Speaker 2: Oh, foaming at the mouth, or knowing which ways South's foam, Let's.

566
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Speaker 3: Foam, Let's foam Wow. Each guest's performance on a scale

567
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Speaker 3: of zero to one thousand doves. It's named after the

568
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Speaker 3: Lady Gaga. Beside one thousand doves, what I enjoyed about

569
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: your performance is that there was a commentary, let's foam.

570
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: You know, you're not just You're not just saying phot

571
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Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

572
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: My style it's all style over substance on this podcast,

573
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: across the board, and so I would I'm like, I

574
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: think it's a very strong I'm like, nine thirty four.

575
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Speaker 2: I think that's an amazing number. I think that's exactly correct.

576
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: What has been a perfect ten? And what was that experience?

577
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: Like sometimes we do it out of fear. Yeah, sometimes

578
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 1: when we're like this person needs a fucking win right now,

579
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: or they're going to walk off our studio.

580
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: We're very star struck by. We were so easily dammed.

581
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: If someone comes in and is like not quite respecting us,

582
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: We're like, we'll do whatever it takes. We'll give you

583
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: a gift, like we'll give you the shirt off our backs,

584
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: Like we have completely no integrity. I one time I

585
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: signed a petition to get a presidential candidate on the

586
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: ballot that I didn't support because someone approached me and

587
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Speaker 3: I didn't want to say no.

588
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Speaker 1: Me.

589
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Speaker 4: And I'm getting a fight about it sometimes because i

590
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 4: will listen to someone's music and I'm like, if they're nice,

591
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: I like them. I like their music if they're nice.

592
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 4: If they're not nice, I don't like this music.

593
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: You know What's funny?

594
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: I have the opposite thing where like, yeah, I get

595
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Speaker 3: I get this thing where I'm like everyone is so

596
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: polite these days and everyone is so uninteresting that like,

597
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 3: if someone is a huge bitch or clearly volatile and insane,

598
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, finally a genuine eccentric And then and then

599
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: I like want to support them as an artist, people

600
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: I disagree with politically, people I think are sort of

601
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: horrible people. I'm like, well, clearly that's where the art

602
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: comes from, which is so toxic and in fact, like

603
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: exactly the opposite of what I should be thinking. But

604
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Speaker 3: I get very suspicious of people who are just like

605
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Speaker 3: normal nice people.

606
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Speaker 1: I think, especially with celebs more so than like musicians

607
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: and stuff. Like when a celeb is just always smiley

608
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: and nice, I'm like, what's the point.

609
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 4: Like you mean to someone there's no I like that. Yeah,

610
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 4: I prefer that like celebrity style. I think it's more

611
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: like guys like when I listen to like a man's.

612
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: Mood yeah, and they're like, oh, like okay, that's a

613
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Speaker 1: good pint.

614
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Speaker 4: And then I'm like if this, if he's nice, then

615
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: this I will take this as like earnest, I don't know,

616
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: there's some love in it. Yeah, it's more to see

617
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 4: there's like love in this thing, which is.

618
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like someone who I have

619
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Speaker 1: no idea what his personality is like, but assume nice

620
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Speaker 1: based on music.

621
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Speaker 2: It's like m J. Linderman nice nice.

622
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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, And so I don't want someone can

623
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Speaker 1: I assume mean based on music. Mac DeMarco nice, nice, interesting, Okay,

624
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Speaker 1: I think I guess you could. Well, I guess I

625
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: do want, I do want, but I know what you mean. Yeah,

626
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: I do want men to be nice. Ultimately, I want

627
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: men to be nice and I want women to be ransom.

628
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Speaker 3: But here's what I'll say, Yeah something, well, yeah, of course,

629
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Speaker 3: something like Jeremy People not liking Jeremy Strong because he's

630
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: like intense about method acting. I'm kind of like, well,

631
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: it's working. Whatever he's doing is working, and I'm I

632
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: don't know, I I know that's bad, but I'm kind

633
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: of like, let him cook.

634
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Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Do women method act?

635
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to.

636
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: Eat well fame, Well, it's mostly a male thing. Heirston

637
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: Dunce recently was like women can't method act. They have

638
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: to go home and raise their.

639
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Speaker 4: Children because it's like, I'm not going to eat my

640
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: character exactly.

641
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: Obviously it's obviously so stupid, but I'm also like, well,

642
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: being an actor is like an insane thing to be,

643
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: so like, just go all the way and be completely insane.

644
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Well, and like Timothy Shallow may like wearing contacts to

645
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: mess up his visions that they wear glasses.

646
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Speaker 2: Did you like the movie? I like them, did too, Yeah,

647
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: you liked it. I liked it. All of my friends

648
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: didn't like really what was their critique? Stressful?

649
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: Oh's and it is a very straight it's very very straight.

650
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: I liked it.

651
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: I feel like more gay people should be like him.

652
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: I got a fight yesterday because everybody's like he's a

653
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Speaker 4: bad person person Timothy Shalla or Josh the character character supreme.

654
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, but that's so you wanted him to

655
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Speaker 4: be good. That would not have been an interesting movie.

656
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Speaker 2: And he was bad that bad. You didn't think he

657
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Speaker 2: was morally wrong.

658
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Speaker 1: That's what was gay to me about the movies, that

659
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: he was bad completely.

660
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: He's like a little ship. He's like he's literally like

661
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: a rancid little twink. Like he's someone we all know

662
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: who's just like constantly alienating people, has no idea. He's

663
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: constantly alienating people is like leaving a trail of destruction behind,

664
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: but ultimately is amazing a ping pong.

665
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm always like worried about people that don't know

666
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: when they're being bad. Like it does actually freak me

667
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: out when people are like move through the world like

668
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: kind of messing stuff up left and.

669
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Right, and just like, isn't the world crazy? Yeah? And

670
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, you're doing it.

671
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: You're doing it though, Yeah, Like it's weird that you

672
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: can't be like, hey, stop doing that, because that's the

673
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: whole personality. They'd be like stop living. Yeah, crumble, they'll crumble.

674
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: So how physical did this fight get yesterday?

675
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well? Also wait, yeah he also loved Eddington. I

676
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: loved Eddington. Sam loved do you like.

677
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: I did afterwards right afterwards, like I don't like that, Yeah,

678
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: but I could rewatch it.

679
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: I know.

680
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: I feel similarly. I loved Hereditary Means I did too Eddington.

681
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: It's interesting the things that sort of satirize that twenty

682
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: twenty era. Now now I'm like, actually that's enough.

683
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 2: I love COVID though, like COVID in TD Lockdown. Yeah,

684
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: I love when they say COVID.

685
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm obsessed with COVID honestly, No, No,

686
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: it's like I say it all the time, like it'll

687
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 4: be like quiet, I'm just like I'll just think about

688
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm obsessed with that.

689
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: I think in a weird way, we haven't even though

690
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 3: it's everywhere we haven't quite processed it psychically as a society.

691
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: I think it'll take generations to process it because so

692
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: many other crazy things happened during that time and right

693
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: after that. That's not the thing that's top of mind

694
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: for anyone, and it's still too recent history to be

695
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: adequately like explored in art.

696
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: Well.

697
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: I actually loved people trying to make like shows about

698
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: it while it's still happening, like free vaccine, even like

699
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: people are like, I'm gonna make a sitcom Everyone's stuck

700
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: at home. I was like, rarely do you get to

701
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: see like someone try to process something in real time

702
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: that quickly. You're like, because you know there's countless things

703
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: about like relationships and love and like time passing, but

704
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: like to make it specifically about COVID and like what

705
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 1: this means. I was like, this is crazy to try

706
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: to attempt.

707
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I respected Eddington doing that, being like, this

708
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 3: is a sad tire about specifically the COVID era.

709
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: Did you see the Morning Show?

710
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: No, that's a big COVID I mean that's incredible.

711
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 2: It's incredible. Yeah, I've seen it. Basically.

712
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: Jennifer Anison is a TV reporter and she gets COVID,

713
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: but then also is in the process of being canceled,

714
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: and so she's at home and somehow the writers are like, Okay,

715
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: we're going to combine COVID and being canceled into one thing.

716
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: And she's like, I have COVID, I'm being canceled, and

717
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: she's like zooming.

718
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: She's like zooming the news and she's like and it

719
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: becomes a story about how she's being canceled. Keep in mind,

720
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 3: she's being canceled because she was complicit in like covering

721
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: up a man's like toxic workplace abuse, got it.

722
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: There's like a Matt Lauer.

723
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: But then you're supposed to be on her side. It's

724
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: the strangest thing. Like that shows politics for very sort

725
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 3: of like throw a bunch of things in the solid

726
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: ball and see and see what comes out.

727
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 2: No, it's incredible.

728
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 3: I mean Reese Witherspoon's brother is in the insurrection and

729
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: he goes she sees that he's there, and then deletes

730
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: the files showing that he's there, and then she gets arrested.

731
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: But after she gets arrested, instead of going to prison,

732
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: she strikes the deal where she gets to be a

733
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: professor in a small town but she just can't go

734
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 3: back to New York or LA. So they're kind of like,

735
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: you have to leave the industry, but you like can

736
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: be in Arkansas and it's Reese Withers, which is what's

737
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: amazing about it.

738
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

739
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: No, it's always fun when stuff is written from like

740
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: sort of a childlike perspective.

741
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I actually like.

742
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: Seeing the world and being like, well, I don't really

743
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: understand how it works, but like what if it worked

744
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: like this?

745
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: Well, there's something about a sort of like you know,

746
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: pussy hat liberal upper West Side kind of like upper

747
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: middle class perspective that is literally a child's perspective. Like

748
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 3: it's I've the worst parts of like the West Wing

749
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: are like this. It's like someone who has not been

750
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: rid of their assumptions that everything is moral and that

751
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: like and that people in power want what's best. Like

752
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: it's it's just it's a very strange. It's like someone

753
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: who has never experienced sadness or disappointment and they're like,

754
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna write a morality tale.

755
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: It is fun to watch, yeah, or infuriating. It depends.

756
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 4: I think if Reese Weatherspin's in it, it's probably gonna

757
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: be okay.

758
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: Don't you. One of the weirdest performances she's ever given.

759
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: She's a really good actress lesbian, Yes, she doesn't know

760
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: how to access lesbian into it. Reese Weatherspoon, I've never

761
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: really seen her except for in Freeway, which was really good.

762
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Right she was in Freeway. Do you guys know that

763
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: I've never heard of?

764
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 4: It is like a nine des like really like Quentin

765
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 4: tarantinoing like really violent, really sexual, really like fucked up.

766
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, but she was Wow.

767
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 4: Well, there is something about actually being like a lesbian

768
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 4: and she has like brown hair and she I don't know,

769
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 4: she's like, you know, mean, yeah.

770
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: I think there's something about some actresses, like really good actresses,

771
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 3: don't know how to do lesbian. It's actually like a

772
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: strange blind spot that I recently watched the Soderberg movie

773
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: Side Effects, and Catherine Zada Jones has to play like

774
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: a wiley lesbian and you can tell see she's short,

775
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: like she doesn't know which beats to hit. And I

776
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: feel like that is happening with Reese Withersoon in the

777
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: Morning Show, where I think they're also very aware of

778
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 3: like not wanting to do a caricature, but they also

779
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: don't want to be themselves, but they it's and I

780
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: actually think they oftentimes actresses struggle with playing lesbian more

781
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: than actors struggle with being gay.

782
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 2: Well, gay is easy, because gay is easy.

783
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: You just you know, you just sort of like they've

784
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: been practicing how to and they're also actors.

785
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 3: Straight actors allegedly are surrounded by game and their whole

786
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: life because that's all that's theater and that's entertainment in

787
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: the entertainment industry.

788
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny.

789
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: There isn't sort of a larger cultural conversation around like

790
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 1: straight women playing lesbians, but there is about straight men

791
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: playing gay guys where it's like we actually maybe need

792
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: to wake up that conversation totally.

793
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: It happens, does it? Yeah? And I get mad, really

794
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: I get mad.

795
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 4: I found out an actress though, like it's not a

796
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 4: lesbian and it was very which one.

797
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: Oh it's too it's too painful. Mackenzie Davis, Oh yeah,

798
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: he would be a lesbian. Want her to be a leslie?

799
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's hoping she was. She could be.

800
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: I'm not like, I feel like I'm talking a lot

801
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 4: about people specific people.

802
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: No, But I love mcken. I think I'm obsessed her,

803
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: like when she was the lesbian in that Black Mirror episode. Now, yeah,

804
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: I think that's where maybe that's where your desire for

805
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: her to be.

806
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: And she was a terminator, like well I didn't see

807
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 4: the terminator, but she was like all these BTS photos

808
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: of her and she's like really buff. Yeah, and when

809
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: I was working out, I would look at those for

810
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: like inspiration.

811
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: Have you seen either Pluribus or The Beast in Me?

812
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: Because both of them, yeah, both of them straight women

813
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: playing lesbians. Oh, Claire Danes, Clara Danes, which Clara Danes

814
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: should like. So she that's an interesting lesbian performance. I

815
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: want to know your take on it.

816
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is I get I'm kind of

817
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 4: obsessed with that because she's wearing a lot of like

818
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: soft suiting, like suiting them, but that was like like

819
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: cotton like soft, do you know what I mean?

820
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like nothing structure, but it was fully ringed,

821
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: like fraid ends, but it's like intentional. It's like Japanese

822
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: or something, and it's very like lesbian who went to

823
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 3: a sort of alternative boutique in silver Lake and bought

824
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: and bought that blazer.

825
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: It was like poet like Marian Moore.

826
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 4: The only two poetry from the clips like a little

827
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 4: cutouts from newspapers and stuff, you know what I mean,

828
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: like a poet, but it's like clinical and mathematical completely.

829
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: But I loved that show.

830
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: It was I love everything honestly, especially if it's bad

831
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: or like over the top, because everything is Riverdale to me.

832
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: Like that show was that was Riverdale but like a writer, yeah, lady, Yeah.

833
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: All TV everything else kind of it is. No.

834
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: That actually is like the most truth thing I've ever heard.

835
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: And I think, like industry, I haven't seen yet so good,

836
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: but I'm excited to is that Riverdale? Do you thing

837
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: from the perspective of everything's Riverdale Riverdale, but financal it

838
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: is kind of Riverdale.

839
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

840
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: I think maybe what you're pointing to with the Riverdale

841
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: thing is like Riverdale always had the courage of its convictions,

842
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 3: like it it wasn't afraid to fully commit to what

843
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 3: it was doing. And I do think you're right that

844
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 3: the clar Danes performance is very Riverdale and that she's

845
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: like I'm going to act psycho. The amount of facial

846
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: expressions per second is crazy.

847
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: It was so good. Yeah, and it was so like relentless,

848
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

849
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 4: It was relentlessly like all of those Claar Danes, like

850
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 4: not even the lip quiffer this much. This time it

851
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: was more just like it more like stressed noises and

852
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 4: stuff like that.

853
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was almost like a demon was inside her,

854
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: like wanting to come out and literally like moving her

855
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: facial skin from within.

856
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: It was like set right away, Yeah, before we knew

857
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: why completely set.

858
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, no it didn't. Yeah, you didn't start with her

859
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: being normal and then she got upset. It's like, so

860
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 3: her whole thing is being upset.

861
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: That's nice. The wait you like pluribis because that's not fun,

862
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: but I had fun. Yeah, I don't know if I'm

863
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: obsessed with pluribus and straight that shows straight, very straight lesbian.

864
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's an interesting lesbian performance too, because she's like,

865
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: so being a lesbian means being angry.

866
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: It's like being grown. It's still.

867
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 4: I feel like sometimes it's like a stillness too, like

868
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: just yeah, just standing, just sitting, do you know what

869
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 4: I mean?

870
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: That?

871
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: So basically what we're doing right now is like like

872
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: it's like straight women are like this, moves along.

873
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: Lesbians are like this but I do.

874
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: Think a lot of actresses think that if they don't,

875
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: if they are not doing the work of like exploring

876
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: the lesbian character as an individual, they're kind of.

877
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: Like turning slowly and walking like, yes, you know what

878
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 2: I mean.

879
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: Uh huh uh huh, I know exactly what. I honestly

880
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: think this is a really really good time.

881
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: I think this is rich. But I want to think

882
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: of more lesbians and film, but we can't. But we don't.

883
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: Who has the time? We need to get to our topic.

884
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: Wait, I and we will, okay, but I do want

885
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: to talk a little bit about your point that straight

886
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: men for a while, when they would be asked, who

887
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: do you think is a hot guy, they would always say.

888
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 4: Ryan Reynold, Ryan Reynolds insane, And it was like it

889
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: was like national, Yeah, I think you could go to

890
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: to any state and they would say Ryan Reynolds like

891
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: a guy, And I think that is.

892
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: I don't know.

893
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: It always really bothered me. I think because he's just

894
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: like regular, but he's tall, like there are some aspirational things,

895
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 4: but like not too far off.

896
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: Well, he reveals nothing about you, like if you're a

897
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: straight guy who says Adam Driver is hot, you actually

898
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: do have like you're implying a sexuality, Like you're like, oh,

899
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: so you have.

900
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: A type, Like so you want him to pick you up?

901
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Whereas like if you find Ryan Reynolds hot, you're

902
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: like saying, like I just think men are can be handsome,

903
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: and you're not revealing anything about yourself.

904
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

905
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 4: I actually went on like Reddit see like if I

906
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 4: could find a thread of like straight guy saying their

907
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: crush yeah, and he was on there. I wanted to

908
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: see if I was right or if this was just

909
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: based off of like two times this happened.

910
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: No, you're right about.

911
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: Well, I've been around something a little scarier than that,

912
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 1: which is when a straight woman is like my celebrity

913
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: crush Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, that freaks me out more because

914
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, but you're you're supposed to dream.

915
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much to do, there's so many people.

916
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: Well, I I so here's the thing with a straight

917
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: woman liking Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds dated Alanis Morissette and

918
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: Scarlet Johansson. And so to me, that to me that

919
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 3: no and q D to me that means he's sort

920
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: of I think for the average woman watching watching the

921
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 3: big film. She's like, Oh, he's someone who's attractive personality.

922
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: Who not to say that those women are not attractive,

923
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: but like they both have like relatively strong personal He's

924
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 3: not dating, like, he's not like Leo Leonardo DiCaprio always

925
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: dating a twenty two year old model, and that I

926
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: think makes him seem more like a gentleman, more approachable whatever.

927
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: Interesting.

928
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: The other thing that, so his whole thing now is

929
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 3: that he's like a businessman. He has like an ad agency. Yeah,

930
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: and he also owns a soccer team, and so I

931
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: think that straight men are attracted to that because they're like, okay,

932
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: so he's he's sort of like a tech CEO, startup

933
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: entrepreneur and that's what I want to be. And he's

934
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: hot and like Chad in their mind. And then for women,

935
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: it's like that's a man who can He's not just

936
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: some like faggy artist. He's like, actually a businessman, he

937
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: could support me.

938
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: Well, who do we want them to have a crush on?

939
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: And thank you for asking that, because I think a

940
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 3: group of gay guys should always be kind of telling

941
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: you who, allowing women who they should be attracted to.

942
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I am generally comforted when some when a

943
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: woman says they want to have to such that on Driver,

944
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, cool, like you're not going too

945
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: far off the beaten path, but you're like you have

946
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: some style.

947
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe.

948
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 3: But Adam Driver also to me has a j a

949
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: strong element where he's like there's anger, there's anger in there,

950
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: like the anger well of course, and there's a self

951
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: consciousness about his whole thing totally. There's an awareness he's

952
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 3: not fully unhinged. He's very aware he's un hinged.

953
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: No, it's true. I do like it, and I think

954
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: he's hot.

955
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like he hasn't thanked Lena Dunham enough

956
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: and that I really struggle with that, Like she put

957
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 3: him on the map, and it's he's always sort of like, yeah,

958
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: like I did that. I was so honored to be

959
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 3: in a Jim Jermush movie. And it's like Lena Dunham

960
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: put you on the map, say her name. No, you're

961
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: completely That's always been my beef with Adam Driver. This

962
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 3: is such a great point.

963
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, why isn't every interview he should be like, well,

964
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: first of all, it's like acknowledging your own stolen land.

965
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: It's like, and I want to acknowledge Lena Unnam never

966
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: worked with a woman again, is that true?

967
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 2: Well? I don't know, but that's true. It's true.

968
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 3: So no, that's that's always been. It's like, but also

969
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: do women like Timothy shallow may are women going?

970
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: They do?

971
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: But I think it's also like do they really do

972
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 4: they want to like fuck him?

973
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: Right?

974
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

975
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 4: I always ask, like my friends if they're straight, like

976
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 4: do you think Xena is hot? And then they just

977
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 4: kind of stare at them, do you know what I mean?

978
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: Because that is like it tells me a.

979
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: Lot, like you're a woman or male friends. Male?

980
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, straight guys, straight guys, man, do you think Zena

981
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: is hot? And then I can kind of it's like

982
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 4: horoscope signing kind of thing to me. So if they

983
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 4: do think Xena is hot, then what they can handle it?

984
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: They they know I don't know that they have vision.

985
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: They have like a.

986
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like an expansiveness Do

987
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

988
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: It's like being able to hear a certain pitch like

989
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it implies something about you.

990
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do that.

991
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: I also, I have to say, speaking of lesbian performances.

992
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: I think that's a great lesbian performance is Yeah, because

993
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: I think she is she transcends the stiffness.

994
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: M h, well, no, you're right. I just think it's

995
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: so funny to be talking about Zena.

996
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically it's so good.

997
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: Oh kay, let's get into the street. Sorry, no, no,

998
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: you do not TV. I could talk about TV shows.

999
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: Have a lot to say about television shows. Get him

1000
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 2: a podcast podcast? Okay, So can we call me Mike? Yeah, Mike.

1001
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: It's always like I never know what to call people

1002
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: when they have like, I know, you know, art names.

1003
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 2: I know, Well, we just had Peaches on it. We

1004
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: kept calling her Peaches. What is peaches? His name? Christian name?

1005
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't you know. My favorite thing is how diabolo

1006
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: Cody's name is Brooke? Is it really? Is that so fun? No,

1007
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: it's like Brooke Candy. It's not Candy. That's cool. Her

1008
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 2: real name is Brooke Candy. I had to change it

1009
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: because of the artist Broke Candy. So a lot of

1010
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: people don't know that. Well, imagine named that because her

1011
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: parents invented candy.

1012
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 3: Oh, she's a neo baby. Her parents invented all candy.

1013
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: Her parents are like invented Candy, imagine and Brooks changing

1014
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: your name to Diablo Cody when you're like in your

1015
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 3: twenties and working as a stripper and then having to

1016
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: be like an Academy Award winning, like widely respected screenwriter

1017
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: and we just be like, hi, Diablo, nice to meet you.

1018
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: You're at the Netflix offoice. Yeah. I guess I always

1019
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: thought of them together.

1020
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, just Diabolo, the idea of being like, oh yeah,

1021
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: it was just a Diabolos. I'm Diablo, so crazy, I'm Diablo.

1022
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: People would always remember.

1023
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: Like that devil, right, But you feel like, in the

1024
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 3: same way that the Dixie Chicks changed her name during

1025
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, there was an alternate universe where Diablo Cody

1026
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: is like, I just want to acknowledge that, like I'm

1027
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 3: not an a Spanish speaker, and I'm I'm going to

1028
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: go back to brook Candy.

1029
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: Diablo Cody, Diablo Cody. That's tough.

1030
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: So sh are you ever your stage name has stood

1031
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 3: the test of time, which is rare, Like still when

1032
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: I say the words perfume genius, it doesn't sound like

1033
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: dated or ridiculous or anything, but like, have you ever

1034
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: had any insecurity about that?

1035
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: Because obviously you chose it when you were like in

1036
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: your twenties.

1037
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I didn't really, I didn't think about it.

1038
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: It's just kind of nonsense essentially. But like cap Power

1039
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 4: is kind of a silly name. I guess, yes, But

1040
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: you just think of her. That's what I was like

1041
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: banking honest that it would just be like you just

1042
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 4: think of the music in me, you know what I mean?

1043
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: But I don't. And I like the way the words

1044
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: look written now, yeah, definitely, but like.

1045
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: What you know, each word in them together doesn't like,

1046
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 4: it's not meaningful to me beyond what I've made underneath it.

1047
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 2: So your parents aren't the inventors of perfume. No, it's

1048
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: all you know.

1049
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: Well, we it's from one of my We were watching

1050
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: that movie Perfume, based on the book Story of a Murder.

1051
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is bad. I haven't seen it.

1052
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: Wait, that movie came out before your music career started.

1053
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, I think like two thousand and eight or

1054
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 2: something like that. And that's where you got the name from.

1055
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 4: Well, it's something my friend said. She's like, this guy's

1056
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 4: some kind of fucking.

1057
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: That's really fine. That's nice.

1058
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 3: No, but you are right that like it doesn't matter

1059
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: how a name can be silly, like cap power is

1060
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 3: an insane name and call yourself, but it just doesn't

1061
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: matter if you're powerful enough to like embody it or

1062
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 3: like Saint Vincent.

1063
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: Is that like a like a saint? Yeah? What is his?

1064
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1065
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: The sort of does a lot of electronic music and

1066
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 3: works with David Byrne and it's kind of like snatched

1067
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 3: as a hell and rocking a fuck ass Bob rocking out. Sorry,

1068
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 3: I keep preventing you from going to the topic, but

1069
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: I don't have to go to the topic, but I'm

1070
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: I do. Or like, you're essentially Lord. Imagine naming yourself

1071
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: Lord and you're like, yep, that's pretty much it for me.

1072
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm Lord.

1073
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's like the a name you can only give

1074
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: yourself when you are fifteen years old.

1075
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Lord. I love Don't don't get us wrong,

1076
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: we're both. I like the like yeah name, yea Lord

1077
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: with the knee. It's cool. It's cool, so cool. I

1078
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 2: like it.

1079
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: Well, I think there's something about giving yourself a stupid name.

1080
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: It almost like challenges you to be like can I

1081
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: can I transcend that?

1082
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1083
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it could have been like insurmountable.

1084
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 4: I feel like I picked a good amount of completely

1085
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 4: it could have been really bad.

1086
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like LMFAO. You aren't you glad you didn't

1087
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 2: name yourself M Yeah, I'm actually.

1088
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,479
Speaker 1: Because that was like what you were also thinking about.

1089
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: That would be kind of genius. Your music is all

1090
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: the same. You just called LMFAO.

1091
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 2: You should do a cover, like a really dark cover

1092
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: of an LMFAO song. Yeah, for an episode of What

1093
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: I'm Sexy and I Know It?

1094
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: Party Rock, Party Rock, Party of Rockers in the House.

1095
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, a dirge version of it Children's

1096
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: choir ballad.

1097
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: It's in the trailer for a documentary about the second

1098
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: Trump administration.

1099
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: Party Rockers in the House. Wow, that's tough. That already

1100
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 1: says a lot starring Reese Witherspooner, Donald Trump. Okay, okay,

1101
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: what is your straight topic?

1102
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: And of them? Yeah, please run through them.

1103
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: One I brought up to Alan last night that he

1104
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 4: was like, what are you talking about? Was when straight

1105
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: guys have like hair in their face and they they

1106
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 4: go like that, Yeah, because they don't want to like

1107
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 4: go like that. I think, Yeah, it's a genius, but

1108
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 4: that's not the topic.

1109
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 2: I just wanted to bring that up.

1110
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: Well, do you guys know what I'm talking about? Its like,

1111
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: what are you talking about again?

1112
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 3: For anyone not watching, it's like doing the surfer dude

1113
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 3: like hair flip, hair flip to the side.

1114
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: Don't do that. I don't think they though.

1115
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: In fact, if they move their hair with their anything,

1116
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: I have like a fixation with touching.

1117
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: Well, gay guys love to do this, the hair, butting

1118
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: hair behind the ear, even if there's no hair.

1119
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: I do this constantly, and it's like I don't have

1120
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: hair anymore like that.

1121
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: Like that.

1122
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 4: It also is like literally moving your hair, like the

1123
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 4: straight gers are trying to shake it, shake it to

1124
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 4: go somewhere. But why but why why is it gay?

1125
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: Or to move it with your hands has nothing to

1126
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: do literally, Jonathan Vaness, you're like styling suddenly if you

1127
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: move do they.

1128
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 4: Just not realize they can Well, they never touched that

1129
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: area or something.

1130
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: Hair is a very hair is.

1131
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 3: Like one of the gayer parts of the body, Like

1132
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 3: it is something that is so feminine, codd and for

1133
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 3: you to acknowledge, acknowledge having hair is almost like you

1134
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: sort of like because and like acknowledging having a butt

1135
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 3: like it. You want to as a straight man, you

1136
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: want to like not draw attention to the gay parts

1137
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 3: of the body.

1138
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: But like in order to have hair, like enough hair

1139
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 2: to like flip, it has to be long.

1140
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 4: And you can tell that they're like prideful about it,

1141
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 4: well why are you?

1142
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: But not enough to like touch it or like it move.

1143
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: But it's prideful not in like a stylistic way. It's

1144
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: prideful in like a look, I'm still like virile.

1145
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: I can throw my hair this long, but I got

1146
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 2: so much. Yeah, okay, so that's a good hair flipping.

1147
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 2: I like that one. Also, just like cars, like going

1148
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 2: really really fast, going really fast. That's really amazing.

1149
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: And you had a reason for why it's straight, Yeah,

1150
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: because the car is what's going fast. Like the guy

1151
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: in it is just like just like pressing a little

1152
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: pressed with foot, Yeah, he's like crazy.

1153
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: Or like when motorcycles are really loud, Like the motorcycle

1154
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: is loud, like, guy isn't why is that cool?

1155
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 2: No? No, you're absolutely right. It's like this.

1156
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 3: It's like it's being proud of your adjacency to power

1157
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: rather than the power you yourself have, Like you're not

1158
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 3: you're not running fast, you're not lifting something heavy. You

1159
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: are simply on the same wavelength as something going fast

1160
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: or something going loud.

1161
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: The car is Lena Dunham's Girls, and the driver is

1162
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: Adam Driver, and he's like, I did that, and it's like, no,

1163
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: the vehicle did that and you were simply in the vehicle.

1164
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: Correct.

1165
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: There's also just something too wanting to go fast that

1166
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: I've never related to. Whenever anyone's speeding, I'm like, can

1167
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: we not? Like it's not that I'm not in a hurry,

1168
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: but it's like I just like I don't. I don't

1169
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: want to go fast.

1170
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: I know, let's just like be on a bicycle going slow.

1171
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was trying to think about it, Like I

1172
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 4: guess like going really fast is like dangerous and if

1173
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 4: a guy is willing to like be that reckless, then

1174
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 4: that's hot or they think that's hot because they're not

1175
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 4: afraid of dying and that makes them more like vital

1176
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 4: or something.

1177
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's like going it's being like an adrenaline

1178
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: not an adrenaline junkie, because that's different. Actually think that's

1179
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: kind of gay. I think it's like doing feigning a

1180
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: lack of fear of death. And it's also everything is

1181
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 3: a race and I'm winning, like going fast than a car.

1182
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: Like there's nothing more pathetic to me than being like

1183
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: in a normal road in a normal city and someone

1184
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: feels the need to like room room room.

1185
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: You gay people do that.

1186
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 4: Like I was trying to think, like I really was

1187
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 4: trying to like, yeah, see if these were real things

1188
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: or if they were actually gay, because sometimes they just

1189
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 4: end up being gay. The more I think about them,

1190
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 4: well that I just don't really do that. They drive fast,

1191
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: but it's like they like they're in a hurry.

1192
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they drive fast because they're drunk. Well, but

1193
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: the feigning the fear of death, like feigning not having

1194
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: a fear of death, I think they actually don't have

1195
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: a fear of death, like I think straight guys are

1196
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: flying down the road being like because they've never yeah, yeah, no,

1197
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: that's very true. It's sort of like when you're walking

1198
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: like at a shopping mall or something and a man

1199
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: will walk into you because he's like, your job is

1200
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: to move away, like I'm not gonna like consider if

1201
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: I'm in anyone's way or not, though yes, yeah, yeah,

1202
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: And then I have in fact been fully like bumped.

1203
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: Just like I always feel like chaaba though, because if

1204
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 4: they like make a thing out of him, they'll just run.

1205
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: Like in that moment, I'm like this man, yeah.

1206
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: Well I'm like yes, I'm like confident, confident, confident, like

1207
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: I dare you to walk into me.

1208
00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: And then they do and I'm like.

1209
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not bumping in, You're moving it out of

1210
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: the way.

1211
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, this isn't worth it. It's not my fight, Okay.

1212
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 3: I also think that one of my sort of white whales,

1213
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 3: which we've never done on the pot, is NASCAR or

1214
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 3: F one or anything like that, because I feel like

1215
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: that's the extreme version of what you're saying. It's like,

1216
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 3: so we love going fast, fast, fast so much that

1217
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: we're doing it in an arena.

1218
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: This is like I get freaked out by talking about

1219
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: this stuff because I'm like, Okay, I understand that racing

1220
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: is real, it requires some skills, yes, But I'm at

1221
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm like, but you're not an athlete.

1222
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 4: You're just sitting You're just moving right. Maybe you're handle

1223
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 4: at all, yeah, like.

1224
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: It right, like you're like dealing with discomfort, Like it's

1225
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: like you just have to sit in that chair for

1226
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of a while.

1227
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 4: Mathematical, yeah, but other than that, I'm like, I'd much

1228
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 4: rather you ran a race. Yeah, that's way more impressive. Yeah,

1229
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 4: and way more fun to watch. I actually haven't watch NASCAR,

1230
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 4: but it's just the cars completely.

1231
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 3: And then it's just the fear that at any given

1232
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: point they could crash. They should do in the same

1233
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: way that musicians do acoustic sets, the NASCAR drivers should

1234
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 3: just like run around the track.

1235
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, be like okay, let's see.

1236
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: Like ultimately, if we were to strip this down, like

1237
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 3: would you be winning.

1238
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: For the car race? You first have to win the running.

1239
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 3: It's kind of like if you're like some radical performance artists,

1240
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 3: like in art school, you learned figure drawing, Like have

1241
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 3: these people learned have they learned running?

1242
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: Swimming races? Swimming? Maybe? Bike? Ra biking?

1243
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: I would love to see them bike. I would love

1244
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: to see them bikes. That's a nice middle ground. Still

1245
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: a vehicle. But are they hot race car drivers?

1246
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: They are are.

1247
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 3: They are hot, but in a very kind of like

1248
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 3: Republican way, Like it is like hat hair, you know, yes, yes,

1249
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: like hat hair like hat hair. Yeah, Yeah, they're hat

1250
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 3: hair hot like hat hair. Yeah, just like constant, constant

1251
01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: hat hair.

1252
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: They're hot hair hot. They're like they're they cheating like

1253
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: baseball play hot. You know, they have like hair, they

1254
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: have hair, nice big butt though, that's true, that's true.

1255
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 4: I guess I was thinking like like, yeah, I don't know.

1256
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 4: I was thinking about something like straight. When do you

1257
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 4: like it? When it's straight guy has a huge fat ass. Weirdly,

1258
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 4: I don't like it because like it's not nothing's going

1259
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 4: to have. All that's happening is poop coming out of

1260
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 4: But don't you think that like there's no utility, no

1261
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 4: playful element to it, or like it's just poop coming

1262
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 4: out of there.

1263
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: And it's just thick, that's it. Yeah.

1264
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: I guess my only response to that would be that

1265
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: is I think what's beautiful about is that it's a

1266
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 3: purely aesthetic object. It's not going to be used for anything,

1267
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 3: and it's like a sculpture. Yeah, you're like what, You're like,

1268
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 3: what a waste.

1269
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 4: It's more like the butt itself, like it doesn't have

1270
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: personality on its own, like detached from the person I see.

1271
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 4: So it hasn't experienced anything, it doesn't do anything. It

1272
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 4: has no like charisma and it's just a poop area.

1273
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the poop that. You are right that

1274
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: it like draws attention to its poopiness because you know

1275
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: it's not used for anything, you know what I mean. Yeah, No,

1276
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 3: you're right, because I can't imagine it. That's all it's doing.

1277
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes though, I like that it's a vulnerability, like you

1278
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: can't not if you have a giant ass as a

1279
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: straight man, you can't like put it away. Like everyone's

1280
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: always like, and he has a giant ass, Like when

1281
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: you get out of the shower, your wife is like,

1282
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: gives you a little spank because.

1283
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: You're like that gives me some like flavor to me.

1284
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: That, yeah, wife is like nice ass, you know, it

1285
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: gives It's like otherwise this man is invincible, but he

1286
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: was cursed with a giant ass, his achilles ass, his

1287
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: Achilles ass, and he's walking around and every that's what's

1288
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: on everyone's mind.

1289
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: They're saying, why does he have such a huge ass, And.

1290
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: It's like he could be like the CEO, but because

1291
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: of his ass, he's just like the CFO.

1292
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: Oh like that it like brings them like humanizes yea, yeah, yeah,

1293
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: that's true.

1294
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: Looking for parents must be tough. I mean when you're

1295
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: putting on the sweats and like normally you're looking for

1296
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: bulge and sweats, but with him, because his ass is

1297
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: so big, you're looking at.

1298
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1299
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: So I know what you mean about the poop area.

1300
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: But we can move on from that.

1301
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, we have a good five minutes. Yeah,

1302
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: the on the poop area. On the poop area, Okay.

1303
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,959
Speaker 3: Any other thoughts about moving really really fast? I walk

1304
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 3: really fast. I think your book I do too.

1305
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: But it's more like I'm not thinking speed, I'm thinking like,

1306
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 2: what is it? What is the feeling?

1307
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 4: A lot of I think it's defensive too fast. Yeah,

1308
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: less room less opportunity for people to fuck completely, you

1309
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 4: know what I mean. They can't even talk to me

1310
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 4: or do anything because I'm bam.

1311
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 3: Yes, And I would say related to that, it's like

1312
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm vulnerable when I'm between locations, so I have to

1313
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: go as fast as possible from Location eight to Location B.

1314
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: Like I need to go.

1315
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 3: I need to be inside the grocery store where I

1316
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: can be safe mm hmm. And I want to like

1317
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 3: minimize the liminal space in between.

1318
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: I think the best part of it too, Yeah.

1319
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: Which is also why I'm I struggled for the longest

1320
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 3: time to understand the appeal of like a hike, where

1321
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: the whole point is the walking, and the walking isn't

1322
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: like it means to an end. God, I love shaking

1323
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 3: your head.

1324
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 2: I don't care for it. Really.

1325
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: I will walk to like ross, like three miles, you

1326
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, but just to go to the

1327
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: just to do.

1328
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: It, or just to the top.

1329
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 4: And that's interesting because I Alan goes hiking all the time,

1330
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 4: and I don't go with them for that reason. Really,

1331
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 4: if there's like a hot springs or like something, yes,

1332
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 4: I feel this, I will walk to it, and I

1333
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 4: will enjoy the nature on the way, and I'll look

1334
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 4: around at everything. But I don't just the walking. Yeah,

1335
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: even nature honestly, like or the moon or anything.

1336
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes I know what it looks like, you know

1337
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: what I mean. I have to agree stimes with the moon.

1338
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, so what am I supposed to do with this?

1339
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1340
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 4: It makes me feel bad though, because so many people

1341
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 4: love it so much. Like Alan loves nature, he loves

1342
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 4: the moon. A lot of my friends love the moon

1343
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 4: and everything, and they want me to look at the moon.

1344
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh cool, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1345
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: but I've seen pictures.

1346
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 2: I feel bad.

1347
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: It makes me feel like there's something wrong with me

1348
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: that I'm not like. I love nature, like the idea

1349
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: of it, but I don't need to be like looking

1350
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: at a tree to like think about how beautiful it

1351
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: is or what it means.

1352
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 2: Or something completely Well, can I tell you my theory

1353
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: about this? Okay? Please? Okay? All right.

1354
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: So the appeal of hiking and looking at nature is

1355
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: that it takes you out of our hyper mediated capitalist

1356
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: world and you can finally like take a break from it. Okay,

1357
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 3: But to me, fetishizing the nature only makes me more

1358
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 3: aware of how not incorporated into my life it is.

1359
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: So if anything, it makes me more depressed to be

1360
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 3: like on a mountain overlooking a city like a city scape,

1361
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 3: because I'm so much more aware of the difference.

1362
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, well it doesn't relax me.

1363
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to be present for a second,

1364
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: because then I will realize that all the rest of

1365
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 4: the second.

1366
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm not like to feel like I fucked up. You

1367
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: guys are crazy. Hiking is fun.

1368
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: You love hiking. I love hiking. No, it's cool.

1369
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: I want I want to like it, Like I'm not.

1370
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 4: I think I just if I am ever defensive about

1371
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 4: it's because I feel like I should be really loving

1372
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 4: hiking and stuff.

1373
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: You know, I know what you mean. I went on

1374
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: to hike like a month ago that was like kind

1375
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: of like scarier than I thought it would be. Like

1376
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: there were like slippery rocks and stuff, and it like

1377
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: when I came back, I was like, oh my god,

1378
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: I did it, Like I'm so brave.

1379
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 2: No, that's cool. I like, if I know there's gonna

1380
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: be slippery rocks, I will go do you know what

1381
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah, you like them? Like the challenge was

1382
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: more than if I know it's going to be like

1383
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: an event. Yeah.

1384
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: The other time, it is cool to do a slippery

1385
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: hike and survive.

1386
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 2: I lived, Yeah, I will say.

1387
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: A central issue I would argue with hiking is that

1388
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: so you're supposed to be like looking at the nature

1389
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: and really like taking it in and you're essentially like

1390
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: close reading the trees, But then you're also supposed to

1391
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: be watching where you step.

1392
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: Yea, how can I do both? Yeah? How do you

1393
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: do it all? How do you do it all?

1394
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: So basically I find myself mostly looking at the ground

1395
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: so I don't slip on slippery rocks, I'm missing all

1396
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: the trees. Yeah, get you a hike that can do both.

1397
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: Alan doesn't look at anything. He just goes straight. He

1398
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: really does tumbling down in some you know, maybe it

1399
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: comes out different mechanism. That's like tanking it all in

1400
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: Like to me, like yeah, because when over your hiked together,

1401
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: he's just damn just straight all the way through the hike.

1402
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: Not know me entering, no like looking or so hepping.

1403
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: But so he the appeal of a hagg for him

1404
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 2: is not appreciating the nature. I think it is. But

1405
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 2: I guess he does it in a way that I'm

1406
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: that is fast or he's speed appreciates.

1407
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 3: Well, maybe he appreciates it in a more embodied way,

1408
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 3: like we have this like we privilege like visuals above

1409
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 3: all else. So you're like, well, he's not looking at it,

1410
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 3: so he's.

1411
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: Not appreciating it, and he's like his body is moving

1412
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: through it like he's a wild animal, and like that's

1413
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: it's not like when a lion is in nature.

1414
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 2: The lion is like, oh my god, those redwoods are

1415
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 2: so stunning. But he's of the blaze. But he's of

1416
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 2: the place. Yeah.

1417
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 3: Interesting, he's acting like an actual native animal would act,

1418
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 3: rather than like as a human who like works as

1419
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: an administrative assistant and is going on a hike like

1420
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 3: on Saturday.

1421
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably it.

1422
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: Wait, there was another topic that you brought up that

1423
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 1: we were debating whether or not to bring up even briefly.

1424
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 2: We don't have to and we don't have.

1425
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: To, but I just thought as an option, if you

1426
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: want to bring it up now, did you want to

1427
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: talk about this one?

1428
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 4: I don't remember what it is. It is a certain

1429
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 4: actress Kendrick. Well, let me preface this, but I like Anakin.

1430
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 4: I like her, But I do think it's kind of

1431
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 4: like when I would ask my straight friends, like, do

1432
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 4: you think seene as hot? It's the same thing, Yeah,

1433
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: kind of Ryan Reynold's like a lot of straight guys

1434
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 4: say they they're celebrity crush.

1435
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: Sana Kendrick, Do you know what I mean?

1436
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: I do know what you mean. It's interesting for me

1437
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: when someone is like, the fantasy is actually like the

1438
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: person they grew up with.

1439
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 2: It's you.

1440
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 1: You expect people to want this like the craziest sexy

1441
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 1: thing on earth because this is your one big fantasy

1442
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: and it's like, actually I want the girl that like

1443
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: I think I.

1444
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: Would get along with the girl from camp.

1445
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like when I think about like

1446
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 4: gay guy crushes on men, it's just like a guy

1447
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 4: at the store. He's so hot, but he's like the

1448
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 4: most normal, regular guy, and like that's.

1449
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: That's it just looks like a regular guy.

1450
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I fetishized regular bad. It's hard not to wait.

1451
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: I have a question, Okay, what are you gonna wear

1452
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: to the Grammys?

1453
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1454
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 4: It's been very stressful, I'm sure because I thought about

1455
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 4: getting a stylist and that I was very lazy about it,

1456
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 4: and then with the amount of money I could use

1457
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 4: for staff, I could buy something and keep it if

1458
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 4: I just did it myself. Yeah, but that's I don't know.

1459
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 4: You don't know what I'm gonna wear, basically, is what

1460
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm nervous about it.

1461
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: Does I stress you out?

1462
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 4: It can be really fun if it's for like for

1463
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 4: the video or for the album cover, it feels a

1464
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 4: lot more creative and there's a lot more like discussion,

1465
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 4: and but as far as just like wearing something nice

1466
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 4: to like a formal event, that that does stress me out.

1467
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't really.

1468
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 4: It makes me feel like a gremlin kind of in

1469
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 4: a way that I haven't figured out how to be

1470
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 4: like my my gremlin outfit for a formal place, you

1471
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 4: know what I mean, I know what that is for

1472
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 4: for other things, because at the formal event you just

1473
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 4: kind of walk. I'm also scared that I'm and do

1474
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 4: the red carpet and I'm just gonna walk straight into

1475
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 4: the plans. You get the wearing like normal clothes from

1476
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 4: my closet and I'm just gonna just walk straight from

1477
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 4: the start into the place.

1478
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 2: But they said that won't happen. They're going to start.

1479
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 3: There's so many handlers. Yeah, you will be shown exactly

1480
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 3: what to do, and then you'll do you have your

1481
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 3: poses down.

1482
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 4: No, I guess I could do my signature post. It's

1483
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 4: a it's like a very arched, a big backbend.

1484
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hit them with them.

1485
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 3: You should do the post from the album cover on

1486
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: the on the ground, lay down.

1487
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: Then they'll be like, oh, that's that's not doing the things.

1488
01:12:54,720 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: It's like performing the song. Should we do our final segment?

1489
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:08,879
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1490
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 3: I like you know, it's we've run out of time.

1491
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 3: We have not talked about the music at all. I

1492
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 3: have like I have this urged like I want to.

1493
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: We're both very big fans of yours. I want to.

1494
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 3: I want to ask questions about the music. But I

1495
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 3: also know I'm gonna sound so stupid because I don't

1496
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 3: have the language for it.

1497
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: I actually feel so you know what I mean, Like

1498
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: I didn't try because I think I struggle with being

1499
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: putting my music journalists on because it's a bit foreign.

1500
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: Let's face it work.

1501
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: But of all musicians we have, I mean, it's like

1502
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: we so I guess we want to both say we

1503
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: appreciate you and for like your entire career, you've been

1504
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: a big presence in both of our lives.

1505
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: We are very honored that you're here. Yeah, thank you,

1506
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,520
Speaker 2: happy to be here. Yeah.

1507
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 3: And also did you name the album Glory after the

1508
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 3: Britney Spears album.

1509
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: No, but I liked how it also, like you know

1510
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: how full that word was for a lot of different

1511
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: like pop culture things.

1512
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1513
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 3: Do you think you would you have a song called

1514
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 3: on the Floor? Do you think you would ever cover

1515
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 3: on the Floor by Jennifer Lawrence Love Best featuring people?

1516
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, straight to like New York London to Yeah, Afrika

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Speaker 4: Afrika not part later there is? Would you ever like

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Speaker 4: transition from your on the floor?

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01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 2: No, but I love I do you know?

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01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: I was aware when I named the song of that

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01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: as well, well, that's yeah.

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: Do you like then New Robin? I do same a lot.

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01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: I have one more music question.

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: Do you ever get tired of people using your music

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: when when they're like coming of age in a movie?

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01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 2: No?

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01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 4: Because I get mad when they don't real It's kind

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01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 4: of like when Bank of America doesn't want me to

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01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 4: do their like pride things.

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm mad about it all years ago.

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01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 4: You didn't ask me sure, Like if they don't have

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01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 4: like some gay guy figuring it out and my song

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01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 4: is playing like, I get mad. Plus that's a check.

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01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 4: It's the one check I can get. So it's like

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01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,560
Speaker 4: you heard it. Hear folks first folks coming of America.

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01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 4: Please please call, Please call, please call. I'd usually say,

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01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 4: but I like to be asked.

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01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 2: Of course. It reminds me.

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 3: Do you ever wish you could just like publish a

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01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 3: list of things you've said no to and get some credit.

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: Look at how moral I am? I don't think I'm not.

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01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm not very ethical oh yeah, who is It's hard

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: to be in this town.

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01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: Let's I am.

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 3: He's kidding you guys, you are, but also Bank of

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01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 3: America reach out the phone is.

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: You know that's richerring? Good ending? Okay, go ahead, no,

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 2: you do it. Okay.

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01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 3: Our final segment is called shout outs, and this is

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01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 3: an homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: shout out. You are shouting out something to your squad

1552
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 3: back home. We think of that, we'll do we'll go first.

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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 3: We think of them on the spot, which is why

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01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm stalling. Okay, so we each have.

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 2: One roughly in mind. Okay, go ahead, Okay, I don't either.

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01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: What's up freaks, losers and perverts around the globe. I

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to the skunk

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01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: who lives in and around my home. I have a

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: skunk that I think lives in the front porch of

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: my landlord's place, and it does wander into the backyard,

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01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: which is where I live, and I think it is

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01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 1: of course adorable.

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01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 2: And it's so hard to have.

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: An animal that shares your space that can spray you

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01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: with stink. Because I want to obviously, if it was

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: a raccoon. We could make nice a little bit. Because

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01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: the skunk, I can't trust it, and I wish I

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01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: could communicate with it and say, trust me, we're going

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01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: to be good. But it is sort of Chekhov's Skunk

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: a bit, and that I fear it's just a matter

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01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: of time until one day I step outside. Oops, the

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01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: skunk is there. Oops, I'm sprayed. So I do fear you,

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01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: and you fear me as well. But I hope that

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01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: over time we can have a more amicable relationship. I

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01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: don't want you to go anywhere, but my landlord, I

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01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: think does so sorry if she does something to make

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: you leave, but I support you and your journey, and

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01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 1: I hope you don't spread me. Xoxo, sam Oh Okay,

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01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: what's up, listeners? I want to give a shout out

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01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: to the brands Swifter. I have not engaged with Swift

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01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: for in a very long time. As useless as ever,

1582
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm staying in the ceblet this month. The dry one

1583
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: doesn't work, the wet one doesn't work. It is a

1584
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: really like old fashioned kind of amazing tale of American

1585
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 1: innovation that they just decided to produce this product that

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01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 1: does not work and then they cornered the market.

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01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 3: Everyone has a swiffer in their home. It doesn't work,

1588
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 3: It doesn't pick up the dust, and it doesn't mop.

1589
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 3: You need a broom and you need a mop to

1590
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 3: clean your floors. And yet every time, as though I

1591
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 3: was born literally yesterdam like maybe this will work, and

1592
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 3: so pretty much I really want to create a product

1593
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 3: that is like that, that is completely useless and that

1594
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 3: everyone somehow still trusts, and that is kind of the

1595
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 3: dream that is that is the real American dream, and

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01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 3: everyone who has accomplished that, I have to really. I

1597
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: think a lot of protein powder companies are also like this,

1598
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 3: absolutely disgusting products. But somehow I'm like, maybe this time

1599
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 3: it will be better. Maybe if I get the Moroccan chocolate.

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01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 3: So shout out to American enterprise, American business and the

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01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 3: entire kind of system of commerce that we inhabit.

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01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, yeah.

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01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 4: Well okay, me shouting something out yeah and then just

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01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 4: doing that for a little while.

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01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's basically I'm looking. I like Fiji Fiji water.

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01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 2: I want to say ahi to Fiji Fiji water.

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01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 4: I think it has milky as a seven point five

1608
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: pH I think naturally it didn't add anything to it.

1609
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I mean?

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01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 4: It has like a milky mouthfeel and it feels real.

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 4: I don't like smart water, I don't like nobody likes

1612
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: the sny.

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01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 2: What else do we got? Aquafina? No? I like, it's fine.

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01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 2: It's not my first choice. How's that? That's fine?

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: Sheltered tap filtered tapl Fiji.

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01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: Does have that milky mouthfield. Well, this has been an

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01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: absolute delight. Thank you so much for doing the pod.

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01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 3: And listened to listen to Glory and listen to all

1619
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 3: of By the way, I was doing research in advanced

1620
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 3: this episode. Clicked on a review of the very positive

1621
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: review of the album, and they had misspelled your name

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01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 3: in the second paragraph.

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01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: I said, music journalism is dead. Did you handrias? They said, haderus?

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01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 2: Oh you Greek? Right? Yeah?

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01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,480
Speaker 3: Oh. I want to address an interaction we had approximately

1626
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 3: six years ago. You DMed me and said I'm Greek too,

1627
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 3: and then I was like stoned or something, and so

1628
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 3: I just dammed back Marina and the diame Men's collab

1629
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 3: when and then you responded she's Greek.

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01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 2: You responded O L And then I was like fuck no,

1631
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was to me.

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01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 3: It was such a like. I was like, I could

1633
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 3: have you know, we could have developed a friendship, and

1634
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 3: instead I made a joke.

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01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,680
Speaker 2: Oh, you're playing the long game, you know us here

1636
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: we are now chokes. Yes, she's Greek. Okay her? No,

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01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: Well there's still time. See here at the Grammys. Maybe

1638
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: you might be there. Probably not.

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01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, bye bye bye, Thank you podcast and now.

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01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,320
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1641
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:48,640
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01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,719
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01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,400
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01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: Stradio Lab is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,880
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01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Created and hosted by Me George Severes and Sam Taggart.

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01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:06,240
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01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: By Laurence Stump, and mixed and mastered by Doug Bain.

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01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: Artwork by Michael Failes and Matt Grubb. Theme music by

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