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Speaker 1: I do Nick about once a month and we go
Speaker 1: for about an hour and we talked about a variety
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yesterday, somebody came up to me and said,
Speaker 1: somebody I work within my little beer company, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: it's a dry January. Would you be willing to have
Speaker 1: a beer with these advertisers? And I'm like, dry what,
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our little our talks are pretty soon going to
Speaker 2: be called cocktails with Colin. I just you and I
Speaker 2: just have a drink from Afar. Now. The difference is
Speaker 2: we don't have to say what time we're recording. But
Speaker 2: I'm on the East Coast right You're.
Speaker 3: Three hours earlier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's barely drinking appropriate time where you are right now.
Speaker 3: You're kind of getting by based on.
Speaker 2: It being an East Coast based media environment. If this
Speaker 2: were pure West Coast, we would maybe be like Colin,
Speaker 2: maybe you should consider dry January for your health. But otherwise,
Speaker 2: I think we're in good shape.
Speaker 1: I already worked out today. I did a show I'm
Speaker 1: Home Free, Baby home Free.
Speaker 2: Oh. I got a buddy of mine bullied me into
Speaker 2: put me in a group chat with a bunch of
Speaker 2: other people, and it's just it's just like seven guys
Speaker 2: that I have to do one hundred push ups each
Speaker 2: every single day. So I just get texts from people
Speaker 2: I don't know that's like twenty down, twenty five down,
Speaker 2: forty down, and I'll be honest, the peer pressure works.
Speaker 2: Find myself in the morning, I was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: doing anything and I'm just a mess. I might as
Speaker 2: well knock out ten push ups here sitting getting ready
Speaker 2: to go to work.
Speaker 3: Do something, so, yeah, something good.
Speaker 1: You're not a workout guy, but your spin Yeah.
Speaker 2: The I think the medical terminology is skinny fat.
Speaker 3: I'm skinny, but I have the insides of.
Speaker 2: A really, really unhealthy person, and so I'm just trying
Speaker 2: to do a little better. I go on kicks of
Speaker 2: the on the peloton where for like six months all
Speaker 2: be super competitive and really good to the peloton, but
Speaker 2: then after that I won't and I don't like going
Speaker 2: to the gym. I don't like working out in front
Speaker 2: of people because I'm not that strong. So yeah, so
Speaker 2: I just do stuff.
Speaker 3: In my own house.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I work. I lift weights for fifty minutes every day.
Speaker 3: One five or five zero five zero, all but Friday.
Speaker 1: I try to lift four to four to six days
Speaker 1: a week.
Speaker 3: Wow, how you look as good as you do it?
Speaker 1: You're I like lifting weights? Whatever reason why I like
Speaker 1: lifting weights, So whatever.
Speaker 2: Good for you, buddy. Yeah, well, listen, I'll get there
Speaker 2: one day. This is thus far I haven't needed to.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move to Jim Harbaughs. So one
Speaker 1: of the things I wrote this, I think in my
Speaker 1: first book two things make smart men stupid, Beautiful women
Speaker 1: and sports, And I always think.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, where I was
Speaker 1: a Husky fan as a kid, but we didn't have
Speaker 1: teams that won a lot of championships. And ever since
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I've always been wanted to be
Speaker 1: a sportscaster. So I was never a fan, a true
Speaker 1: fan as a kid. You know, people know I like
Speaker 1: the Huskies or USC But I'm not really a true fan.
Speaker 1: I love creating content. Anybody that knows me, you know me,
Speaker 1: Jimmie Horowitz, Charlie Dixon. I love to create content. That's
Speaker 1: that's my love of my life, beyond my kids and family.
Speaker 1: I love to create seven minute rants, eight minute rants,
Speaker 1: and I love the audience to rip them, enjoy them whatever.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And this Jim Harbaugh stuff is why I, as a
Speaker 1: moderately bright guy, have a great career. Is that Jim
Speaker 1: Harbaugh has literally won everywhere. He got to a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Kaepernick. He won at academically rigid Stanford, like twelve games.
Speaker 1: He won ten games at Michigan the first year with
Speaker 1: Brady Hulks, players in the Big Ten. And for years
Speaker 1: people just kept pushing back. He's not good. And I
Speaker 1: tell people it's called Google. It's a search engine. You
Speaker 1: can look at His brother's brilliant. His dad won a championship.
Speaker 1: His brother's brilliant. He's won everywhere. And it was the
Speaker 1: reluctance for people because Jim makes people, he's a disruptor, uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: He's Ubert to taxi. He just pisses people off. He's new.
Speaker 1: We've done it this way, he does it that way.
Speaker 1: The Jim Schwartz pat in the back, he's hard. He
Speaker 1: pissed Pete Carroll off and the idea that Jim harbaught
Speaker 1: needed the Natty to be viewed as a great coach.
Speaker 1: And I'm like Saban bombed in the NFL spurri or bombed.
Speaker 1: Like there's five four or five guys ever, Jimmy Johnson,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, Jim Harbaugh, that one with both, it's really hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, Bellachick, he wouldn't deal with donors, he wouldn't recruit.
Speaker 1: He's shown no ability to understand offense that in our business,
Speaker 1: that if we allow the fans to be the jury,
Speaker 1: and then you know, somebody can be the DA, somebody
Speaker 1: can be the prosecuting attorney and you and I are
Speaker 1: just the judge, and you remove emotion from most of
Speaker 1: the arguments. It is rather bizarre that how often greatness
Speaker 1: is obvious and people, because their agendas or their connections
Speaker 1: to other schools, just won't subscribe to Yeah, Jim Harbaugh's
Speaker 1: one everywhere. Immediately, I'm shocked by all the people that
Speaker 1: are like, yeah.
Speaker 2: That needed this to prove it, They needed it to
Speaker 2: prove it now. Listen, I will admit you know, it's
Speaker 2: not like we don't all have our own wifs. I
Speaker 2: just mentioned the Jokis things, so like, it's not like
Speaker 2: anybody bats a thousand on this stuff.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, I'm not saying that Yokish, by the way,
Speaker 1: was an ascending player who's a second rounder and and.
Speaker 2: It just there was no precedent for it, which is
Speaker 2: part of what makes him so special when you're unprecedented.
Speaker 2: But and also to add to your point, and I
Speaker 2: might be totally misremembering, but like a decade ago, didn't
Speaker 2: you have a really weird like thing with Harball?
Speaker 3: Yes, like a I don't I love that was right?
Speaker 3: And but you know, but you like.
Speaker 2: There was an interview or whatever where it seemed like
Speaker 2: he was giving you the hard time. I don't remember
Speaker 2: the details of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I didn't interview. It was terribly clunky.
Speaker 1: I could have easily turned on him.
Speaker 3: But the reason, that's what Okay, So that's what I was.
Speaker 2: That's why I was gonna bring it up was I
Speaker 2: thought somewhere in my brain I thought that existed, but
Speaker 2: I couldn't quite remember it.
Speaker 3: You nothing would.
Speaker 2: Have been easier than to be like, everybody thinks this
Speaker 2: guy's a dope. He kind of was a dick to
Speaker 2: me when I talked to him. And it's always the
Speaker 2: safer bet to say someone sucks because it's hard to win. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna get to be right so much more
Speaker 2: often then you're gonna get Then you're gonna ever be
Speaker 2: wrong because there's only one winner at the end of
Speaker 2: the day. And if you can be like, well, I
Speaker 2: can't win the big game, I mean, what do you
Speaker 2: want me to tell you? Like I talked to the.
Speaker 3: Guys, it sucks.
Speaker 2: And I watch ten percent as much college football as you,
Speaker 2: but I watch the biggest games, the biggest programs, and
Speaker 2: obviously I am very aware of what's going on. And
Speaker 2: it was like six years ago, I'm like, wasn't Hardball's
Speaker 2: team with way less talent like a bad spot away.
Speaker 3: From beating Ohio State? Like wasn't it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Hasn't so much of this narrative of oh can't beat
Speaker 2: the best teams? Like aren't we basing that partially on
Speaker 2: a spot we all agree was the wrong spot? In
Speaker 2: a year, he would have either been undefeated or in
Speaker 2: the title game. I don't remember all the details, but
Speaker 2: there is there's just so much data. I'll give you
Speaker 2: the and a different contemporary example, it should not have
Speaker 2: taken Patrick Mahomes for people to realize Andy Reid pretty
Speaker 2: fucking smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what.
Speaker 2: And by the way, he would have probably never won
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. Well you know what I mean, if
Speaker 2: it would have just been Alex Smith to the next guy,
Speaker 2: because winning super Bowls are hard. But when every player,
Speaker 2: every quarterback that you have, has their best seasons under
Speaker 2: this and then it's like, oh, like it's so all
Speaker 2: the and I think, by the way, kind of a
Speaker 2: future take, I can see some of the media turning
Speaker 2: on is too strong, but starting to do this topic,
Speaker 2: how good is Kyle Shanahan really if they don't make it,
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, these great regular seasons, but where's
Speaker 2: the jewelry, like if they don't win the super Bowl?
Speaker 2: As opposed to being like, well, I don't know, he's
Speaker 2: taken quarterbacks that the moment they leave him are backups
Speaker 2: or benched or whatever. And when twelve games, thirteen games,
Speaker 2: one playoff games, probably pretty good. And so I do
Speaker 2: think there is that there is a a level of
Speaker 2: folks that I think won't go with, will only go
Speaker 2: with what they truly believe and see yeah, up until
Speaker 2: it's like, uh huh, this is not in the mainstream
Speaker 2: enough anymore, I'll disagree with everybody else and so and
Speaker 2: I think that's why not to bring up the niners again.
Speaker 2: I think that's why people have gotten so frustrated with
Speaker 2: me on brock Purty. Yeah is it's because so many
Speaker 2: of the other skeptics laid down their swords. And I
Speaker 2: don't think they were convinced. I just think they got
Speaker 2: sick of getting yelled at. And what I think folks
Speaker 2: don't know is in order to yell at me, you
Speaker 2: better see me in person, because I'm not seeing.
Speaker 3: Any of it. I'm not reading any of it.
Speaker 2: Like, the only people who get to yell at me
Speaker 2: have like are Bruceard Wilde's you and people I know
Speaker 2: so like, I don't really it doesn't impact me. And
Speaker 2: so the Harball thing is fascinating, and I do wonder
Speaker 2: how much of it is. They didn't like it. They
Speaker 2: just thought the guy was weird and a jerk or whatever.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to describe that to him. I
Speaker 2: don't know him, but it seemed like a lot of
Speaker 2: it is like I don't like this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had four. You know, I rely a lot
Speaker 1: because I'm older, So I know a lot of coaches
Speaker 1: and executives. I go to lunch with them, I have
Speaker 1: dinner with them. So I know four different coaches who
Speaker 1: have been on Harbass staff and they all said the
Speaker 1: same thing. Guy is different. He's the most football obsessed
Speaker 1: guy ever. He's just he's just it's insane. So a
Speaker 1: lot of times I have access you do that. Fans
Speaker 1: don't write that. They don't sure they don't have these
Speaker 1: I mean I go to dinner probably twice a year
Speaker 1: with Mangini. We talk about shit that I'm not putting
Speaker 1: on the air. Jed Fish is a good friend of mine.
Speaker 1: You know different guys I've dealt with. So I do
Speaker 1: have some. You know, I can call it part of
Speaker 1: the job, right, this is what we do. If you're
Speaker 1: a mortgage broker listening to me, you have access to
Speaker 1: stuff that I don't have. So but I just found
Speaker 1: the Harbaugh stuff. It's like, guys, Okay, four times, including
Speaker 1: the NFL first year, he took the Niners over. They
Speaker 1: were excellent and It's like if a lot of people
Speaker 1: get jobs and they don't last. But if you get
Speaker 1: four different jobs, five different jobs, you take crap and
Speaker 1: you make it good immediately and you're successful in all
Speaker 1: of them. I don't need championships now.
Speaker 3: And where was he before Stanford? I don't even remember.
Speaker 1: So he was at San Diego. It was a small university.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he succeeded there, and he succeeded everywhere.
Speaker 1: They had a quarterback who was good. He made him
Speaker 1: really really good. Then he went to Stanford. Stanford was
Speaker 1: the worst program in the country with high academic and
Speaker 1: the Colise Yeah, I mean I remember that vividly. I
Speaker 1: mean I remember it and in my opinion, set the table.
Speaker 1: And this is the other thing that happened sometimes to guys.
Speaker 3: Are you pals with Chris Peterson? Yes, like okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So I feel like sometimes guys become victims of their
Speaker 2: own success, where they make a place so relevant or
Speaker 2: good that it stays that after they leave, and then
Speaker 2: to some folks it's not as wildly impressive of what
Speaker 2: they did when they got there. So Chris Peterson like
Speaker 2: turned Boise State into such a power that after he leaves,
Speaker 2: it's still relevant and it's like no, no, no, that was
Speaker 2: created by him. Similar thing happened with Harball with Stanford,
Speaker 2: like Harball can leave. They have Andrew Luck and David
Speaker 2: Shaw and they're really good still, and it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: Stanford's always pretty good. It's like, no, it was not.
Speaker 2: That is the I mean, I understand there were times
Speaker 2: when it was, and they were involved in famous games obviously,
Speaker 2: but when he took it over, it was terrible and
Speaker 2: made it great and the Niners were in the wilderness
Speaker 2: and it instantly turned around. It instantly turned around for them,
Speaker 2: Which is if you were advising him, what job would
Speaker 2: you take if he had his pick of all the
Speaker 2: NFL openings, what job would you tell him?
Speaker 1: I would say, Jim, you recruited Drake May. Do you
Speaker 1: think he's better than Justin Herbert? And if the answer
Speaker 1: is yes, you take the Washington job because Herbert for
Speaker 1: the next rest of his career is expensive. If you
Speaker 1: believe that Drake May is better than Justin Herbert, you
Speaker 1: take the Washington job. Your brother coaches Baltimore, you take Washington.
Speaker 1: Your mom and dad can move between the two of you.
Speaker 1: Cap space good roster Drake may Now John Now, if
Speaker 1: you don't think it is, then just go with the
Speaker 1: best quarterback. I mean, the answer in the NFL is
Speaker 1: all most ohas, go where the best quarterback is, or
Speaker 1: draft the best quarterback. Chicago draft Caleb Williams. It'll just
Speaker 1: work out, He'll it'll work out, of course, right, So
Speaker 1: the Chargers is the best job unless and wherever Harbaugh goes.
Speaker 1: What's really an advantage is like Pete Carroll or Jimmy Johnson,
Speaker 1: when they're in college and they come to pro. You
Speaker 1: get about a three year window where you know all
Speaker 1: the college players you recruited all of them. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: your huge edge. So the rebuild will be much easier
Speaker 1: for you. Now, the Chargers is not a rebuild. They
Speaker 1: have cap space cap issues. Washington's not a total rebuild,
Speaker 1: but a semi rebuild with tons of cap space. So
Speaker 1: Harbaugh can walk in and go, Yeah, I'm gonna like
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Pete. The rebuild is much easier for me.
Speaker 1: I know all. And by the way, we will trade
Speaker 1: off some players get draft picks. I'll probably take four
Speaker 1: of my Michigan guys who I know can play, and
Speaker 1: I'll avoid the ones that I know that I know
Speaker 1: can I mean, you go look at Pete Carroll's first
Speaker 1: three or four drafts out of USC. I mean it
Speaker 1: was just fifth round, sixth round. I mean he was
Speaker 1: nailing people. Jimmy Johnson walks into the league. He is
Speaker 1: just fish in a barrel. So I think Washington's very interesting,
Speaker 1: no cap issues, marginal rebuild. You look around that division
Speaker 1: and you're like Jalen Hurts, Dak Daniel Jones. So here's something.
Speaker 1: I live in beautiful Los Angeles. In fact, tonight I'm
Speaker 1: going to go out to dinner, be by the water
Speaker 1: and amongst the glitterati, and you will be in cold,
Speaker 1: windy New York. So we get into this discussion. I
Speaker 1: think I've done this a couple of times. So New
Speaker 1: York's the biggest city in America. LA's two, Chicago three.
Speaker 1: And if you look at New York right now, with
Speaker 1: all the money, with all the influence, the biggest star
Speaker 1: in the city is Aaron Judge. Second is forty year old,
Speaker 1: increasingly weird Aaron Rodgers. And there is no third. There
Speaker 1: is no transcendent star. The Clippers more star power than
Speaker 1: the city of New York.
Speaker 3: The Clippers.
Speaker 1: Forget lebron ad the Rams, the coaches in LA.
Speaker 3: Not even star coaches in New York.
Speaker 1: They're like nobody's McVeigh like him or not, Lincoln Riley Harbaugh.
Speaker 1: Potentially we've done this before, Stafford, Aaron Donald, Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: that forget California, Los Angeles, Otawni, Mookie Betts that if
Speaker 1: you look at Los Angeles and all their pro franchises,
Speaker 1: we got we count. We get to about twenty four
Speaker 1: between like players, coaches, like star power, A listers, A listers.
Speaker 1: New York has two.
Speaker 3: Two so one has played four snaps.
Speaker 1: And I get to the point where I think to myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's not a coincidence. I don't believe in that. Chicago. Similarly,
Speaker 1: for the size of the cities, Zach Levine, they have
Speaker 1: no stars. Is that increasing? I mean literally Chicago a city.
Speaker 3: I know. I was thinking.
Speaker 2: I was like, the reason I stopped was I was thinking,
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, Patrick, yeah, the Bears have no stars.
Speaker 2: The hockey guy to the black Star, the colas in
Speaker 2: White Sox. Yet like there's so oh yeah, this is correct.
Speaker 1: LA has twenty five coaches or stars, And I think,
Speaker 1: what's happening is something the rest of the country. If
Speaker 1: you watch cable news, nobody wants to live in LA.
Speaker 1: Rich people do. It's the land of opportunity, and that
Speaker 1: when people increasingly have options, professional athletes and coaches, many
Speaker 1: of the agents live here. The weather's better, entertainment production companies.
Speaker 1: When lebron chose the Lakers, he did so because of
Speaker 1: the thirteenth richest people in Los Angeles all wanted to
Speaker 1: meet him and talk about production deals, and that Los
Speaker 1: Angeles has literally separated from the company. We always talked
Speaker 1: about stars in LA but if you're watching what's happening
Speaker 1: in New York and Chicago, I don't think it's just
Speaker 1: bad gms. Is that professional athletes and their agents. This
Speaker 1: is something Canada has dealt with Canada but can't win
Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup. And the Athletic had a story a
Speaker 1: year ago about the various reasons, and of the eight reasons,
Speaker 1: like number seven was the right reason is that stars
Speaker 1: would rather live in the United States. The weather's better,
Speaker 1: there's more money. We're a capitalistic country that you just
Speaker 1: get paid more, You'll have a cuter girlfriend, you'll be
Speaker 1: on the beach in Florida, you'll be in Phoenix, you'll
Speaker 1: be in Los Angeles, your twenty seven year olds, and
Speaker 1: you're rich. Is that people can say they hate LA
Speaker 1: but increasing Hardball is going to have all this choice.
Speaker 1: Chances are he's going to take Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: So so here. So I've I have, I've never really so.
Speaker 2: Any So this you do this to me sometimes, which
Speaker 2: is you bring up something that I haven't thought about before,
Speaker 2: so then I am forced to come up with a
Speaker 2: theory that admittedly I thought of for twelve seconds. So
Speaker 2: I can't This isn't one of those like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: glad you mentioned this.
Speaker 3: I have a very well thought.
Speaker 1: Out we can edit it, you can take it.
Speaker 3: Got another No, No, that's fine. No, no, no.
Speaker 2: I because as you were talking, as often happens, and
Speaker 2: this is either a straight I think it's a strengthening
Speaker 2: professionally and a weakness personally. As you were talking, I
Speaker 2: was thirty five percent listening to what you were saying,
Speaker 2: in sixty five percent figuring out what I was going
Speaker 2: to say. So I have a slightly different theory that
Speaker 2: I just came up with, but I think makes sense.
Speaker 2: I think because I think in the past one of
Speaker 2: the massive draws of New York was the city will
Speaker 2: make you a star, so you will deal with shit, weather,
Speaker 2: abrasive media. I think tax rate stuff is a little overrated,
Speaker 2: but still something.
Speaker 3: It's something.
Speaker 2: It's not nothing that you know, the fact that some
Speaker 2: people really want a house with a yard, and in
Speaker 2: order to get that here, you have to live.
Speaker 3: You know, you deal with a.
Speaker 2: Real community Chester County, right, You've got to live a
Speaker 2: real commute away all that stuff. But people were like,
Speaker 2: if you were a big time athlete, you're like, man,
Speaker 2: but nobody knows me or I don't you know, my
Speaker 2: profile isn't big enough.
Speaker 3: If I go to New York it will be in
Speaker 3: modern society.
Speaker 2: It's not that it doesn't matter, but it barely matters
Speaker 2: in modern society because of the way media has changed,
Speaker 2: and because of the way getting your own message out
Speaker 2: has changed, and because everyone can be their own megaphone.
Speaker 2: You don't have to live here to get it out.
Speaker 2: So you know where people choose good weather, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, good night life media exactly. And so
Speaker 2: it's not when you brought up Rogers, like Rogers is
Speaker 2: the guy judge was drafted here?
Speaker 1: Obviously?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rogers opted you know, chose the Jets.
Speaker 3: A couple of things. One is, the whole league wasn't
Speaker 3: after him. A handful of teams were.
Speaker 2: But if you spent fifteen years in the exact opposite
Speaker 2: of New York, in a city with the worst weather
Speaker 2: of any American sports city, the weather's not going to
Speaker 2: bother you, and it might be a cool change of
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there was nothing but a bowling alley
Speaker 2: as far as nightlife where I was. Now, I have
Speaker 2: all these options, I'm going to go there. But for
Speaker 2: when Lebron's made, you don't have to be Lebron if
Speaker 2: you are like a star quarterback in the NFL. Yes,
Speaker 2: there is something to being the quarterback for the Giants.
Speaker 2: I understand that. But would Lamar Jackson be way more
Speaker 2: famous as a Jet than a Raven?
Speaker 3: No, No, he wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Could Patrick Mahomes, who lives in Kansas City, Missouri, is
Speaker 2: it possible for him to be that much more famous?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: His tight end is dating the most famous woman in
Speaker 2: the world. And the reason like, and I'm sure they
Speaker 2: really love each other, but the reason that he was,
Speaker 2: you know, in the same room as her, was because
Speaker 2: of his proximity to the.
Speaker 3: Fame and his own fame in Kansas City. It's just changed.
Speaker 2: It's changed to where you don't have to be in,
Speaker 2: you know, one of these places.
Speaker 3: And so then why does La do well?
Speaker 2: La does well because it's god dog beautiful.
Speaker 3: It's awesome to live there.
Speaker 1: If you're rich, you can hide Manhattan's and Island right
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. You do not see Matt Stafford in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: You never see Jared Goff people in Los Angeles. For
Speaker 1: those who the uninitiated, if you live in Manhattan Beach,
Speaker 1: you don't leave.
Speaker 4: Live.
Speaker 1: If you live in Manhattan Beach, you don't leave. If
Speaker 1: you live in Malibu, you don't leave.
Speaker 2: I watched I watched Chiefs Packers at low Wayne's house. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say the neighborhood he lives in. He
Speaker 2: lives in a It was a forty minute drive from
Speaker 2: the Fox Lot and a neighborhood that I hadn't I didn't,
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of.
Speaker 3: I drove in there.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you must just all just it's a place
Speaker 2: I'd never heard of within you know, tossing distance of
Speaker 2: downtown LA. And it's nothing but bazillionaire houses, and but
Speaker 2: it was like it's like hidden. It's like you take
Speaker 2: a left journal, like what the hell that that doesn't
Speaker 2: So that is the other thing. Yes, right about LA,
Speaker 2: there's all these different little on.
Speaker 1: You can hide in LA and you can.
Speaker 2: Leave and so so there is. But if that's not
Speaker 2: your type of thing, and you're just like, you know
Speaker 2: what I am going to if you're did Kevin Durant
Speaker 2: become less of a star when he went from New
Speaker 2: York City to Phoenix?
Speaker 3: No? No, but in the past he might have.
Speaker 2: And so that's so it just one of the biggest
Speaker 2: draws I think New York City had for athletes.
Speaker 3: Isn't there anymore?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I'm just not there anymore.
Speaker 1: And I also think you point to something and you
Speaker 1: this was sort of an aside, but it is impactful. First,
Speaker 1: what you're saying is right. But the smaller thing is
Speaker 1: to be in New York you had to deal with
Speaker 1: a bunch of shit to be a star, and you
Speaker 1: don't in Los Angeles. The media is soft, the weather's better,
Speaker 1: we don't have a city tax like New York. And
Speaker 1: the truth is it's a spread out town where you
Speaker 1: can hide. I mean, I'm not joking when I say
Speaker 1: this is I live in an area of town that
Speaker 1: that has a lot of pro athletes. Like I'll see
Speaker 1: somebody tonight. There's pro athletes everywhere. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of Hollywood people, but I know somebody that lives in
Speaker 1: an area I used to live in Santa Monica, and
Speaker 1: at my pharmacy, I would see like six stars. Nobody cares.
Speaker 1: It's not sort of a Los Angeles. The industry is stardom.
Speaker 1: So the so the people on the street don't bother stars. Hey, autograph,
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen here. They just let them be. It's
Speaker 1: the best place in North America to be a star.
Speaker 3: You're a book.
Speaker 1: To give them space.
Speaker 3: And then his last point I'll make on it.
Speaker 2: If you're a sports fan, if you're an athlete, there's
Speaker 2: probably something to be said to playing.
Speaker 3: In a non die hard city.
Speaker 2: Yes, the people at the games are going to be diehards,
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, Like it's not like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: now no one's showing up to our games. You living,
Speaker 2: you play in a big city, the stuff's going to
Speaker 2: be sold out out, but people are not ass and
Speaker 2: so yeah, and so like there is you know, the
Speaker 2: if you're in a die hard city, which is typically
Speaker 2: a Northeastern city or a city like where I'm from.
Speaker 3: Kansas City, you can't.
Speaker 2: Kansas City is a little different because we have no
Speaker 2: celebrities at all except for the athletes.
Speaker 3: So typically people.
Speaker 2: Almost leave the athletes alone because it's like we just
Speaker 2: want them to be happy, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: like there, and it's such a small it's a medium
Speaker 2: sized city but feels like a small town.
Speaker 3: So Kansay is a little different. But if you in LA.
Speaker 2: The other good thing about being an athlete in La
Speaker 2: is you might go to the store and people might
Speaker 2: just not give a shit, like it's not even the team,
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Like here Lebron is
Speaker 2: one thing, you know what I mean. But I would
Speaker 2: I would imagine that let me think of a good
Speaker 2: example here. I would imagine that Russell Westbrook can go
Speaker 2: to the store sometimes yea, and people don't you know,
Speaker 2: people for the most part, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say Lee Malone, but don't break
Speaker 2: out the way they would in Philly.
Speaker 1: Damon Stottomire Maxie was somewhere when he was in Portland,
Speaker 1: he was from Portland and loved it. He said, I
Speaker 1: love Toronto. He said, the hockey team, a CFL team,
Speaker 1: an NBA team, a baseball team. Damon said, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not seven foot. I paired of peg glasses in
Speaker 1: a baseball cap On, I could hide. And in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles I've always said there there are rungs of famous.
Speaker 1: There are the rock right, but there's Denzel and then
Speaker 1: there's Lebron and then there is you know, kind of
Speaker 1: B stars, soap opera, Vin Diesee, and then there's you know,
Speaker 1: like young music stars. I mean, I'm like the thirty
Speaker 1: seventh rung of what That's what.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say is and I'm listen, I'm not you,
Speaker 2: but you and I, if we're in a similar tier
Speaker 2: of notoriety.
Speaker 3: I would argue it's kind of the best.
Speaker 2: Level of fame, yes, which is occasionally you get like
Speaker 2: like a free meal, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean. It's like really it's like nope.
Speaker 2: Like occasionally that you get the natural like ego boost
Speaker 2: of a couple times a day if you're out and
Speaker 2: about someone being like, hey love your stuff, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean that, But you can just be totally
Speaker 2: you're never like bothered, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 2: so that it's all the perks none of the drawbacks.
Speaker 2: The actual famous people, the truly famous people who like
Speaker 2: have to strategize how they're going to leave the house.
Speaker 2: That sounds miserable to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That that sounds like I would not enjoy that at all.
Speaker 2: But like, and so to your point, LA is one
Speaker 2: of the cities where you can be an actually famous
Speaker 2: athlete and not treated like one unless you want to be,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, unless you're like, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, you're opting into it. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that's probably super helpful in the way. Other's pretty good.
Speaker 2: It's a damn snowstorm right now.
Speaker 1: Are you guys have a snowstorm?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, it's like an ice storm something.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really snow in New York anymore, the last
Speaker 2: couple of winters. But they think that the tonight's gonna
Speaker 2: be bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I got an email for my kids school saying we're
Speaker 2: gonna call it. We're gonna let you guys know at
Speaker 2: five am if school's canceled tomorrow, Like, okay, great, Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: you it's seventy four degrees and.
Speaker 1: See what the weather is. Hold on, Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1: It is sixty four degrees.
Speaker 3: Oh, cold front for you.
Speaker 1: And a few clouds. I'm going to dinner by the beach.
Speaker 1: That's good life.
Speaker 2: Oh speaking of speaking of weather, and then we can
Speaker 2: do whatever you want to do before we're done. No
Speaker 2: matter what anyone believes in the Chiefs this year, I
Speaker 2: understand I am on the furthest possible end of optimism
Speaker 2: about the Chiefs. I think every whether I'm right or wrong,
Speaker 2: I think ninety percent of the world is going to
Speaker 2: join me by Monday because I think the Dolphins are
Speaker 2: going to look so bad in negative fifteen wind chip.
Speaker 2: I really believe that their whole past rushing unit is
Speaker 2: out injured. They are have to feel like we went
Speaker 2: from being the one seed on the road and narrowhead
Speaker 2: on a streaming service Saturday night, short week in zero
Speaker 2: degree weather, negative fifteen wind chill, and we have Isaiah
Speaker 2: Patcheko just running through us. I think that the weather
Speaker 2: is going to honestly be enough to give the Chiefs
Speaker 2: a ten point edge Saturday, and even if they're not
Speaker 2: as good as it looks. I think Saturday Kandas the
Speaker 2: city is going to look really good and the Dolphins
Speaker 2: are going to look really cold, and I think that
Speaker 2: that is going to be a huge factor in that way.
Speaker 1: I had a team that was, you know, before the Internet,
Speaker 1: that was very offensively ingenious was Air Coriel, Dan Fouts,
Speaker 1: John Jefferson, Kellen Winslow. There were these Charger teams that
Speaker 1: were kind of ahead of their time. Never won titles,
Speaker 1: but they were kind of like pre Bill Walsh, Joe
Speaker 1: mount Tina Niners. They were doing wild and zany progressive
Speaker 1: offensive stuff. And they went to Cincinnati and played a
Speaker 1: playoff game and it was four in San Diego. I
Speaker 1: mean again, it's palm trees and Fowls goes there and
Speaker 1: I remember watching the game as a kid. I've never
Speaker 1: seen human being. They might as well have been naked.
Speaker 1: They looked so uncomfortable, and there is something to be said.
Speaker 1: I am now somebody who has lived for eight years
Speaker 1: in California, and it is amazing fifty two here. It
Speaker 1: was the other night it was called windy. On my
Speaker 1: birthday party, it was windy. I told Ann, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's happened that the climate change.
Speaker 4: This is just not even she goes it's fifty it's
Speaker 4: fifty two, honey, it's a slight win like it does effect.
Speaker 4: South Beach is the last place in America. I mean
Speaker 4: it's really the best place in America during the winter. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean not exist. Unfortunately, it's gonna be underwater, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is, no, I think, and I
Speaker 2: think that is a I think that the weather is.
Speaker 2: And that's one of my favorite things about the NFL
Speaker 2: is like there is this part of it that your
Speaker 2: most important games are played.
Speaker 3: Until the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Of course, sometimes there are these teams where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know how really good we are, but I
Speaker 2: know we can handle the coal, yes, And so if
Speaker 2: you get us to then this obviously has not been
Speaker 2: the chief story over the course of their you know,
Speaker 2: this little this era. But for other like for Cleveland
Speaker 2: or like these teams where it's like we might just Pittsburgh,
Speaker 2: we might just be okay, but we also might get
Speaker 2: to the postseason and know how to deal with what
Speaker 2: you might not have to know how to deal with.
Speaker 2: And for it is such an odd thing to me
Speaker 2: about Buffalo that Buffalo historically with John with this team
Speaker 2: has not played great yea in bad conditions, and he's
Speaker 2: from right, and they should be the team that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, knows how to play in these
Speaker 2: bad conditions the best. But you have these you know,
Speaker 2: you have these teams are playing domes and warm weather
Speaker 2: like I even looked. But I'm very curious if Houston
Speaker 2: were to win against Cleveland, which I don't know if
Speaker 2: I think they will, what the weather's going to be
Speaker 2: like in Baltimore that first weekend, And is Houston just
Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh fuck this, like we're not, we
Speaker 2: didn't sign up for this. And so I'm I'm very
Speaker 2: interested in how that affects all the the outdoor hold
Speaker 2: weather games as the playoffs move on the volume