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Speaker 1: I do Nick about once a month and we go

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Speaker 1: for about an hour and we talked about a variety

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Speaker 2: Yeah, our little our talks are pretty soon going to

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Speaker 2: be called cocktails with Colin. I just you and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's barely drinking appropriate time where you are right now.

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Speaker 2: It being an East Coast based media environment. If this

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Speaker 2: maybe you should consider dry January for your health. But otherwise,

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Speaker 2: I think we're in good shape.

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Speaker 1: I already worked out today. I did a show I'm

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Speaker 2: Oh. I got a buddy of mine bullied me into

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Speaker 2: I don't know that's like twenty down, twenty five down,

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Speaker 2: well knock out ten push ups here sitting getting ready

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Speaker 3: Do something, so, yeah, something good.

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Speaker 1: You're not a workout guy, but your spin Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm skinny, but I have the insides of.

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Speaker 2: A really, really unhealthy person, and so I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: then after that I won't and I don't like going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I work. I lift weights for fifty minutes every day.

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Speaker 1: You're I like lifting weights? Whatever reason why I like

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Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move to Jim Harbaughs. So one

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh has literally won everywhere. He got to a Super

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Speaker 2: It just there was no precedent for it, which is

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Speaker 3: Yes, like a I don't I love that was right?

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Speaker 2: That's why I was gonna bring it up was I

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Speaker 3: Guys, it sucks.

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Speaker 2: And I watch ten percent as much college football as you,

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Speaker 2: I understand that. But would Lamar Jackson be way more

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Speaker 3: Fame and his own fame in Kansas City. It's just changed.

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Speaker 2: It's changed to where you don't have to be in,

433
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Speaker 2: you know, one of these places.

434
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Speaker 3: And so then why does La do well?

435
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: La does well because it's god dog beautiful.

436
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 3: It's awesome to live there.

437
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Speaker 1: If you're rich, you can hide Manhattan's and Island right

438
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. You do not see Matt Stafford in Los Angeles.

439
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: You never see Jared Goff people in Los Angeles. For

440
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: those who the uninitiated, if you live in Manhattan Beach,

441
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: you don't leave.

442
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 4: Live.

443
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: If you live in Manhattan Beach, you don't leave. If

444
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: you live in Malibu, you don't leave.

445
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: I watched I watched Chiefs Packers at low Wayne's house. Yeah,

446
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say the neighborhood he lives in. He

447
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: lives in a It was a forty minute drive from

448
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: the Fox Lot and a neighborhood that I hadn't I didn't,

449
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of.

450
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: I drove in there.

451
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Speaker 2: I'm like, you must just all just it's a place

452
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: I'd never heard of within you know, tossing distance of

453
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: downtown LA. And it's nothing but bazillionaire houses, and but

454
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: it was like it's like hidden. It's like you take

455
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: a left journal, like what the hell that that doesn't

456
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: So that is the other thing. Yes, right about LA,

457
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: there's all these different little on.

458
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Speaker 1: You can hide in LA and you can.

459
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: Leave and so so there is. But if that's not

460
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: your type of thing, and you're just like, you know

461
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: what I am going to if you're did Kevin Durant

462
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 2: become less of a star when he went from New

463
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: York City to Phoenix?

464
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: No? No, but in the past he might have.

465
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Speaker 2: And so that's so it just one of the biggest

466
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Speaker 2: draws I think New York City had for athletes.

467
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Speaker 3: Isn't there anymore?

468
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

469
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: And I'm just not there anymore.

470
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Speaker 1: And I also think you point to something and you

471
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Speaker 1: this was sort of an aside, but it is impactful. First,

472
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Speaker 1: what you're saying is right. But the smaller thing is

473
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Speaker 1: to be in New York you had to deal with

474
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Speaker 1: a bunch of shit to be a star, and you

475
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Speaker 1: don't in Los Angeles. The media is soft, the weather's better,

476
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: we don't have a city tax like New York. And

477
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: the truth is it's a spread out town where you

478
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Speaker 1: can hide. I mean, I'm not joking when I say

479
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Speaker 1: this is I live in an area of town that

480
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: that has a lot of pro athletes. Like I'll see

481
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: somebody tonight. There's pro athletes everywhere. There's not a lot

482
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Speaker 1: of Hollywood people, but I know somebody that lives in

483
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Speaker 1: an area I used to live in Santa Monica, and

484
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: at my pharmacy, I would see like six stars. Nobody cares.

485
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: It's not sort of a Los Angeles. The industry is stardom.

486
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: So the so the people on the street don't bother stars. Hey, autograph,

487
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen here. They just let them be. It's

488
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Speaker 1: the best place in North America to be a star.

489
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: You're a book.

490
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: To give them space.

491
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Speaker 3: And then his last point I'll make on it.

492
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Speaker 2: If you're a sports fan, if you're an athlete, there's

493
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Speaker 2: probably something to be said to playing.

494
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Speaker 3: In a non die hard city.

495
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 2: Yes, the people at the games are going to be diehards,

496
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, Like it's not like, oh, well,

497
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Speaker 2: now no one's showing up to our games. You living,

498
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 2: you play in a big city, the stuff's going to

499
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: be sold out out, but people are not ass and

500
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: so yeah, and so like there is you know, the

501
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: if you're in a die hard city, which is typically

502
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: a Northeastern city or a city like where I'm from.

503
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Speaker 3: Kansas City, you can't.

504
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: Kansas City is a little different because we have no

505
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: celebrities at all except for the athletes.

506
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: So typically people.

507
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: Almost leave the athletes alone because it's like we just

508
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: want them to be happy, you know what I mean,

509
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: like there, and it's such a small it's a medium

510
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: sized city but feels like a small town.

511
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 3: So Kansay is a little different. But if you in LA.

512
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Speaker 2: The other good thing about being an athlete in La

513
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: is you might go to the store and people might

514
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: just not give a shit, like it's not even the team,

515
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Like here Lebron is

516
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: one thing, you know what I mean. But I would

517
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Speaker 2: I would imagine that let me think of a good

518
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: example here. I would imagine that Russell Westbrook can go

519
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: to the store sometimes yea, and people don't you know,

520
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: people for the most part, you know what I mean.

521
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to say Lee Malone, but don't break

522
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: out the way they would in Philly.

523
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: Damon Stottomire Maxie was somewhere when he was in Portland,

524
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: he was from Portland and loved it. He said, I

525
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: love Toronto. He said, the hockey team, a CFL team,

526
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: an NBA team, a baseball team. Damon said, you know,

527
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm not seven foot. I paired of peg glasses in

528
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: a baseball cap On, I could hide. And in Los

529
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: Angeles I've always said there there are rungs of famous.

530
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: There are the rock right, but there's Denzel and then

531
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Speaker 1: there's Lebron and then there is you know, kind of

532
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: B stars, soap opera, Vin Diesee, and then there's you know,

533
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Speaker 1: like young music stars. I mean, I'm like the thirty

534
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: seventh rung of what That's what.

535
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say is and I'm listen, I'm not you,

536
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: but you and I, if we're in a similar tier

537
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: of notoriety.

538
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: I would argue it's kind of the best.

539
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: Level of fame, yes, which is occasionally you get like

540
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: like a free meal, you.

541
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Speaker 3: Know what I mean. It's like really it's like nope.

542
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: Like occasionally that you get the natural like ego boost

543
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: of a couple times a day if you're out and

544
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: about someone being like, hey love your stuff, you know

545
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: what I mean that, But you can just be totally

546
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: you're never like bothered, you know what I mean, And

547
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: so that it's all the perks none of the drawbacks.

548
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 2: The actual famous people, the truly famous people who like

549
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: have to strategize how they're going to leave the house.

550
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: That sounds miserable to me.

551
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

552
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: That that sounds like I would not enjoy that at all.

553
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: But like, and so to your point, LA is one

554
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: of the cities where you can be an actually famous

555
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: athlete and not treated like one unless you want to be,

556
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, unless you're like, you know

557
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: what I mean, you're opting into it. So yeah, I

558
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: think that's probably super helpful in the way. Other's pretty good.

559
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: It's a damn snowstorm right now.

560
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: Are you guys have a snowstorm?

561
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, it's like an ice storm something.

562
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

563
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't really snow in New York anymore, the last

564
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: couple of winters. But they think that the tonight's gonna

565
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: be bad.

566
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

567
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: I got an email for my kids school saying we're

568
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: gonna call it. We're gonna let you guys know at

569
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: five am if school's canceled tomorrow, Like, okay, great, Meanwhile,

570
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: you it's seventy four degrees and.

571
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: See what the weather is. Hold on, Yeah, I'm good.

572
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great.

573
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: It is sixty four degrees.

574
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: Oh, cold front for you.

575
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: And a few clouds. I'm going to dinner by the beach.

576
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: That's good life.

577
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: Oh speaking of speaking of weather, and then we can

578
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: do whatever you want to do before we're done. No

579
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: matter what anyone believes in the Chiefs this year, I

580
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: understand I am on the furthest possible end of optimism

581
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: about the Chiefs. I think every whether I'm right or wrong,

582
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: I think ninety percent of the world is going to

583
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: join me by Monday because I think the Dolphins are

584
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: going to look so bad in negative fifteen wind chip.

585
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: I really believe that their whole past rushing unit is

586
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: out injured. They are have to feel like we went

587
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: from being the one seed on the road and narrowhead

588
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: on a streaming service Saturday night, short week in zero

589
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: degree weather, negative fifteen wind chill, and we have Isaiah

590
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: Patcheko just running through us. I think that the weather

591
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: is going to honestly be enough to give the Chiefs

592
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: a ten point edge Saturday, and even if they're not

593
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: as good as it looks. I think Saturday Kandas the

594
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: city is going to look really good and the Dolphins

595
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: are going to look really cold, and I think that

596
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: that is going to be a huge factor in that way.

597
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: I had a team that was, you know, before the Internet,

598
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 1: that was very offensively ingenious was Air Coriel, Dan Fouts,

599
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: John Jefferson, Kellen Winslow. There were these Charger teams that

600
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: were kind of ahead of their time. Never won titles,

601
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: but they were kind of like pre Bill Walsh, Joe

602
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: mount Tina Niners. They were doing wild and zany progressive

603
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: offensive stuff. And they went to Cincinnati and played a

604
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: playoff game and it was four in San Diego. I

605
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: mean again, it's palm trees and Fowls goes there and

606
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I remember watching the game as a kid. I've never

607
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: seen human being. They might as well have been naked.

608
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: They looked so uncomfortable, and there is something to be said.

609
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: I am now somebody who has lived for eight years

610
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 1: in California, and it is amazing fifty two here. It

611
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: was the other night it was called windy. On my

612
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: birthday party, it was windy. I told Ann, I don't

613
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: know what's happened that the climate change.

614
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Speaker 4: This is just not even she goes it's fifty it's

615
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: fifty two, honey, it's a slight win like it does effect.

616
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: South Beach is the last place in America. I mean

617
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: it's really the best place in America during the winter. Yeah,

618
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 4: I mean not exist. Unfortunately, it's gonna be underwater, but.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is, no, I think, and I

620
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 2: think that is a I think that the weather is.

621
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: And that's one of my favorite things about the NFL

622
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: is like there is this part of it that your

623
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: most important games are played.

624
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: Until the Super Bowl.

625
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: Of course, sometimes there are these teams where it's like, yeah,

626
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: I don't know how really good we are, but I

627
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: know we can handle the coal, yes, And so if

628
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: you get us to then this obviously has not been

629
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: the chief story over the course of their you know,

630
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: this little this era. But for other like for Cleveland

631
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: or like these teams where it's like we might just Pittsburgh,

632
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: we might just be okay, but we also might get

633
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: to the postseason and know how to deal with what

634
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: you might not have to know how to deal with.

635
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: And for it is such an odd thing to me

636
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: about Buffalo that Buffalo historically with John with this team

637
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: has not played great yea in bad conditions, and he's

638
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: from right, and they should be the team that, you

639
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: know what I mean, knows how to play in these

640
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: bad conditions the best. But you have these you know,

641
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 2: you have these teams are playing domes and warm weather

642
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: like I even looked. But I'm very curious if Houston

643
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: were to win against Cleveland, which I don't know if

644
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: I think they will, what the weather's going to be

645
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: like in Baltimore that first weekend, And is Houston just

646
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh fuck this, like we're not, we

647
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: didn't sign up for this. And so I'm I'm very

648
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: interested in how that affects all the the outdoor hold

649
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: weather games as the playoffs move on the volume