1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Ooh, welcome in Clay Turavis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: I hope all of you are having fantastic Thursdays wherever 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: you may be around the country or. 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: Around the world. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 3: We are here to hang with you and have a 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 3: fantastic time. Over the next three hours. Lots to dive 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: into Buck. In particular, the testimony yesterday from the irs 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: whistleblowers almost completely buried in left wing media. And you 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: might wonder why is that significant? Because over half of 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: Democrats still believe that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 3: disinformation and that it's not real. And a big part 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 3: of that is because they don't cover actual factual hearings 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: under oath buried on I believe page sixteen of the 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: New York Times, not on the CNN website at all. 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: MSNBC elected not to cover it. By and large, if 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: you are someone who doesn't watch Fox News, or you're 18 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: someone who doesn't listen to Clay and Buck, there's a 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: huge segment of the American population that has no clue 20 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: about what's been going on with the Hunter Biden crime family. 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 3: And I think that's by design, and Buck, right off 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 3: the top, I want to share this story because I 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: think I don't know how much attention it's going to get, 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: but I think it should be massively important. And I'm 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 3: citing here the House Oversight Committee, the Weaponization Committee. They 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: have shared a letter that they sent to Christopher Ray 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: today and they now have an FBI employee testifying under 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: oath that the FBI knew the Hunter Biden laptop was real, 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: and they decline to tell the social media companies that 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: it was real, and so someone made that decision and 31 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: they're actually is testimony here that I think is really 32 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 3: interesting associated with this, Buck, where they say I don't 33 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: know exactly who made this decision not to notify all 34 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: of these social media companies that the Hunter Biden laptop 35 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: was in fact real. And this is probably the number 36 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: one question Buck. If we had Christopher Ray on this show. 37 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 3: There are a lot of questions that I would love 38 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: to be able to ask him on this program, love 39 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: to be able to ask him in general, but to me, 40 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 3: the number one story because the FBI claims that they 41 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: were working in concert with social media companies to try 42 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: and ensure that there was no misinformation surrounding the twenty 43 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: twenty election, and that's why they were having all these 44 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: briefings with Facebook and Instagram and Twitter. But in reality, 45 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: they allowed the most significant and effective misinformation tool in 46 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: modern political history, that letter by the fifty one agents. 47 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: They allowed that to be put out and they knew 48 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: it was one hundred percent false. 49 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Do you want me to order the code read? Yeah? 50 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you want me to put on 51 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: my bureaucrat hat here until you. 52 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: Have this down and the code read there? This is there's. 53 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: First of all, there's no there's not one person. It's 54 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 4: always by committee, and that's on purpose. It's always a 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 4: room full of people that work at these places who 56 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: make these determinations. It's not one person, even if it's 57 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: the very top of the organization. Let's say the FBI 58 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: director in this case, he'd have I don't know FBI 59 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: hierarchy that well, and the CIA hierarchy better, but he'd have, 60 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: you know, his deputy director, and he'd have some assistant 61 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: directors and a legal aid or legal advisor or whatever, 62 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: and they would sit around that they would make a 63 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: determination about something like this. They would do it without 64 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 4: doing it over email, They wouldn't text each other about it. 65 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 4: They would make sure there's no If they're smart, that's 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: always an If they'd make sure there's no electronic record, 67 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 4: how will they justify this in front of Congress? 68 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: And this is why you know. 69 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 4: It's so frustrating, Clay, because I think back to and 70 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: I know I bring this up with people say what, 71 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: what's why is this similar? The whole point of what 72 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 4: happened with the coverup of Benghazi was they had to 73 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: keep it quiet and lie about it until after the 74 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 4: election because they knew if Obama got reelected, nothing was 75 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 4: going to happen. That's why I remember Candy Crowley, you know, 76 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 4: basically through a metaphorical block like on a football field 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: for Obama when Mitt Romney, crazy as it is, was 78 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 4: pinning him down on did you say that this was 79 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 4: a terrorist attack? And you know, Candy Crowley of CNN 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: got in there she said, oh, sir, he actually did 81 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 4: say it. And you know, the whole thing and the 82 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: media all lied about that, Clay, and the establishment lied 83 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: about it. They knew the lie couldn't hold. But the 84 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: point was just keep it from having political consequences until 85 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: we're in charge and then it becomes what are you 86 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: going to do about it? Because that's what we saw 87 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: in the Bengazi hearings. Oh my gosh, look at all 88 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 4: the incompetence. Look at the COVERU look at And we 89 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 4: had members of Congress pounding the table and saying, oh 90 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: my gosh, Hillary Clinton, this is terrible. Secretary of State. 91 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: Didn't lose, you know, didn't lose your job, got to 92 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 4: run for president. Afterwards, Barack Obama continued, the problem here 93 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: with this system is everything that we are now looking at, 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: everything that we are uncovering. I'm not saying it's not 95 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: worthwhile to get the truth. It's always worthwhile to get 96 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: the truth, but we have to gauge what we think 97 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: realistically the consequences will be right. Yeah, nothing is going 98 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: to happen to anybody in the FBI based on any 99 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 4: of these whistleblowers. While Joe Biden as president take it 100 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: to the bank everybody. Nothing will happen to any of them. 101 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: No one's getting fired. Now. I know you know this, Clay, 102 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: but this is where we get into. If we want 103 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: to deal with these problems, we have to win, which 104 00:05:58,320 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: I know is the whole point of your book. And 105 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 4: you know that's the we have to win because merely 106 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 4: pointing at them with these congressional hearings again, not that 107 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: we shouldn't do them, but I'm just gauging the expectations 108 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 4: or preps, lowering expectations and saying. 109 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: You guys, you were so unfair in the FBI. 110 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 4: It's almost like you wanted Joe Biden to win the 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: election three years ago, which they did, right, So where 112 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 4: you know everything you and I talk about here, all 113 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 4: of the data, all of the facts back this up. 114 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: But then we get to then this is why I 115 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: asked him, Jordan Yesterda, I'm like, so, what actually happens here? 116 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: What actually comes of any of this? And I say, 117 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: it's just because I think it has to be a 118 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 4: point of motivation for if you're a Trump person or 119 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 4: you're a Vivek or your Desanders or whomever, you need 120 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: your guy to win, Nikki Haley, gal, you need a 121 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: Republican to win, because otherwise it just turns into what 122 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 4: are you going to do about it? Yeah, we needed 123 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: to help Biden win. And that is just the baseline, uncomfortable, 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 4: enraging reality of this. They look at us now and 125 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: they say, yeah, that's right. Of course, we suppressed this 126 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 4: to help Joe Biden. Remember the line, what was the 127 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: Harry Reid line, Clay with Mitt Romney's taxes just made 128 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 4: up a total live about Mitt Romney taxes. When he's 129 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 4: asked about it, Harry Reid said he didn't win, did he. 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: That's how the demo. That's actually the most important thing 131 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 4: Harry Reid ever said about politics, that one line, because 132 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: that's the mentality. It's the mentality of the deep state 133 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: operatives and the Democrat Party. And I think that's what 134 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: we see with all these whistleblowers. 135 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 3: Here is the testimony that I wanted to hit in 136 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: particular because I do think there is a value in 137 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: having it on the record under oath, because it's harder 138 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: to be able to say, oh, this is all just misinformation, 139 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: this is all this is all conspiracy theory. Somebody from Twitter, 140 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: this is right after the Hunter Biden New York Post 141 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: story came out. Somebody from Twitter on a call with 142 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: the FBI essentially asked whether the laptop was real, and 143 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: one of the FBI folks who was on the call 144 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: did confirm that yes, it was, before another participant jumped 145 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: in and said no, further comment, and so no comment 146 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: became the FBI standard as they were talking to all 147 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: of these all these tech companies. But I do think 148 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: it goes to the essence here, Buck, which is and 149 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: this is what I would like, And you're right, it's 150 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: super frustrating to know all of this and also see 151 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: that there are no consequences for it. And even worse, 152 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: I would say, Buck, than no consequences is the consequences 153 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: are actually on the side that didn't do the wrong right. 154 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: They're trying to censor the side that actually has been 155 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: telling more of the truth, and they're trying to do 156 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: it in the name of misinformation, which is such a 157 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: deceitful act that it is incredibly infuriating. But having it 158 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: on the record that the one hundred percent Neogle laptop 159 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: was real, that they chose not to comment on it, 160 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: there is no way to justify that. I've never really 161 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: seen Christopher Ray get grilled on this, because if you 162 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: truly care about trying to clean up misinformation, the FBI 163 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: aided and abetted the most successful misinformation campaign in probably 164 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: modern American political history. 165 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: What the Oversight Committee here on Weaponization is doing is 166 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: a necessary step. I'm not saying it's a it's a 167 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 4: waste of time. To your point, getting them on the 168 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: record and getting the facts on the record under oath 169 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: is critical, so that going forward, at least when we 170 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: talk about this, there's a better chance there still a 171 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 4: lot of people aren't going to believe it. As you 172 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 4: know that there are a lot of people still think 173 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: the laptop is Russian disinformation or whatever. But the way 174 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: this has meaning or impact, the way that this has consequences, 175 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: is by showing people just how grotesquely part is in 176 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: the upper reaches of the FBI and the intelligence community 177 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 4: were in twenty twenty. You may be able to convince 178 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: enough people who are persuadable to put power in the 179 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: hands of Republicans and a Republican, particularly in the presidency, 180 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: who will do something about it, because other than that, 181 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: nothing's happening. Right. That's just the key recognition I think 182 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: we all have to have. It raises the stakes. It's 183 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: not a call to oh, what are we gonna do? 184 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 4: It's guys, I can assure anybody of this. You think 185 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: there's gonna be any consequence if Biden gets reelected or whatever? 186 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: You know, Kamala Biden, I mean some who knows how 187 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: this is all gonna play out. But if the Biden 188 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: regime in some form limps across the finish line here 189 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 4: to twenty twenty four, there'll be no consequences political or 190 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: otherwise for. 191 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: Any of this. 192 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 5: You know. 193 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 194 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 4: It's it's a This is why it's so important to 195 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: focus on this, because what they did in twenty twenty, 196 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,599 Speaker 4: it's so gregious to your point a second ago, you 197 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 4: just shut it down. They're getting all this disinformation, they're 198 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: grabbing people. 199 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: Forget this. 200 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 4: Comy as much as he was trying to be the 201 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 4: center of the stage in twenty sixteen, and he stood 202 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: in front of everybody and said, I mean, just a 203 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: quick review here everyone. The Attorney general did some weird 204 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: meeting on a private plane with the wife of the 205 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 4: Democrat front runner and nominee Hillary Clinton. Sat down with 206 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 4: Bill Clinton and said that they talked about their grandchildren 207 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: on a private plane and excuse their security details for 208 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 4: that conversation. 209 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no one believes that, right. 210 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: But then James Comy comes forward and says nobody would prosecute. 211 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's not true. 212 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: A lot of prosecutors came forward and said they would prosecute, 213 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 4: but even Comy a few weeks after that, I think 214 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: he just wanted some attention. Remember he had that quick 215 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: announcement of we're reopening into the Hillary laptop and everyone said, well, huh, 216 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: because it's really Comys. It's he was more obsessed with 217 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 4: himself than anything else. The FBI in this case was 218 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 4: just doing the opposite, which was burying. The first time around. 219 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: They were saying, if we don't tell everybody about this, 220 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: it'll look like we're being partisans. This time around is 221 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 4: we can't tell anybody about this because it'll look like 222 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 4: we're being partisans. Somehow, it always benefits Democrats. It is 223 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 4: interesting the way this story has played out, and I 224 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: do wonder on the historical record. To your point, if 225 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 4: Biden wins in twenty four there are no consequences, right 226 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: or if Biden steps down and another Democrat wins, there 227 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 4: will be no consequences. This whole story will just kind 228 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 4: of vanish. I am really fascinated to know how this 229 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: entire era's story will be covered in history. And I 230 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: ask you this too, Clay, put yourself in the mindset 231 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: of the what was it fifty one? I forget the 232 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: number now fifty one people who are fifty one. Do 233 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: you think a single one of them regrets doing it? 234 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: I'm not saying is annoyed. They've gotten heat from people 235 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 4: like you and me. Do you think any of them 236 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 4: regret what they did at that point in time? 237 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 3: No, because they, to your point with Harry Reid, they 238 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: got the result that they wanted exactly, and they would 239 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: do it again, and they would do it again. But 240 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 3: I do think, I mean, to me, the staggering part here, 241 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: Buck is just how well it worked and how well 242 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: it still worked because a majority of Democrat voters still 243 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: believe that the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation. 244 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 4: How deep into the Trump the Trump administration did they 245 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: believe that Russia hacked into voting machines. There were Democrats 246 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 4: who believed that Tushia. It was huge numbers, and it 247 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: was like three years into the Trump presidency they were 248 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: still saying this stuff. 249 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: It was crazy. 250 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think this story under oath FBI 251 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: agent saying yes, we knew the Hunter Biden laptop was real. 252 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: That's the first time I can remember seeing an FBI 253 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: agent under oath say that and then telling the story 254 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 3: that they officially decided that their policy was going to 255 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: be no comment on what that laptop was real, which 256 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: means they allowed, which meant they allowed the Biden administration 257 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: to lie about this when they knew that the lie 258 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: was going on, which directly resulted I really do believe 259 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: in Joe Biden's election, strip everything else that was going 260 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 3: on away. 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Again, dial pound two five zero say 282 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: Clay and Buck and make the switch to Pure Talk today. 283 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Inspiring you to seek out the truth the Clay Travis 284 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton show. This Inspector Clouseau's style quest. 285 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: For something that doesn't exist has turned our committee into 286 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: a theater of the absurd and exercise and futility and embarrassment. 287 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 5: We are here today because Donald Trump is exerting an 288 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: influenced campaign. 289 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: Seems to be a new level of hypocrisy here. 290 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 6: I know the American people are confused, because we're all 291 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 6: confused what we're doing here. Nothing this majority has claimed 292 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 6: about the president or his family has married. 293 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: Be me up, Scottie. There's no intelligent life down here. 294 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: I mean, really, we're gonna go with nothing we've said 295 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: about the President or his family. 296 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Nothing we've said about Hunter Biden is truth? Is that 297 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: really where the Democrats? Yeah, just say it. 298 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: The more the more of an affront to a you know, 299 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: anybody with above a room temperature IQ. They can they 300 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: can make it. I mean, it's just it's appalling honestly 301 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: what they what they say and what they go with here. 302 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: But they can't play the problem they have, especially with 303 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: the Hunter stuff and some of the stuff you saw 304 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: today was whoa in this hearing, they can't defend it. 305 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: So they just have to say that it's not a thing. 306 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: That's where we are now, that's what it's all turned into. 307 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: I do think though, unfortunately, if they can just as 308 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 4: long as they can convince enough people that there's no 309 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: connection between what Hunter was doing for millions of dollars 310 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: on his dad's behalf and his father Joe Biden, the 311 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: Democrat President of the United States, that they'll be happy 312 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: with that, you know what I mean. As long as 313 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 4: they can tie it off at Hunter, they don't care. 314 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 4: They'll leave Hunter behind. 315 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 316 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting to me about the Hunter Biden's 317 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: story is they tried to create this separation and clearly 318 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: Joe was involved in the in the money laundering and 319 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 3: the influence pedaling and everything else based on actual text 320 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: messages from Hunter Biden. But to me, now, Buck, the 321 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 3: challenge they have is all this evidence, what the irs 322 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 3: whistleblower said was Joe Biden's Justice Department protected Hunter Biden 323 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 3: from the consequences for his actions, which is, when you 324 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: really break it down, Buck, a different story than whether 325 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: they initially were involved in influence pedaling, because I think 326 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: it's almost impossible to argue now that Joe Biden's Department 327 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: of Justice did not engage in inappropriate behavior to protect 328 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: his son, which is its own different scandal than the first. 329 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: Yeh, I think that they are running out, which is interesting. 330 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: All right, my friends. 331 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: According to former Wall Street insider Tika Tuai, we're about 332 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 4: a week away from seeing our government announce a mandatory 333 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 4: national recall on the US dollar. 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I 353 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: still am fired up though over the IRS whistleblower testimony 354 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: yesterday and the fact that the media is not covering it. 355 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: But let's just talk for a minute. You were a 356 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: CIA agent. You've got deep powers of perception when it 357 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: comes to analysts and ability. Right, we call ourselves CIA officers. 358 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: Go ahead, I was close CIA officer, all right. Those 359 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 3: two IRS whistleblowers yesterday, one of whom because they loved 360 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: to play identity politics. Was a gay Democrat, so not 361 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: on the political side of Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. 362 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: So if they were lying, by telling their story publicly 363 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: under oath, they are putting themselves at peril of being 364 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: charged with perjury, put in prison, losing their freedom, losing 365 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: their ability to make money, losing everything that they have 366 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: in terms of freedom and financial resources in their life. 367 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: And yet they were willing to go forward, raise their 368 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: right hands, speak publicly under oath about everything that they said. 369 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, why do people lie? Usually people lie in general, 370 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: Buck and my opinion for two reasons, because the truth 371 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: will cost them something and or in order to try 372 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: to benefit. Right, there's very few times where people lie 373 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: and they aren't creating a benefit for themselves. Leave aside 374 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 3: everything those two irs agents. What do they gain? What 375 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: do they gain by telling a lie? Versus what do 376 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: they risk? And then put that on the opposite side 377 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 3: and say, what does Joe Biden, what does Hunter Biden? 378 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: What does ag Merrick Garland? What do they gain by 379 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: telling lies? And this is not even remotely difficult. You 380 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: don't even need to know exactly what they're talking about. 381 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 3: You just assess who benefits the most from lying, and 382 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 3: all of the evidence would support the IRS agents telling 383 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: the truth. 384 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 4: This is Charlie Munger, right, show me the incentive, I'll 385 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 4: show you the result, or in this chance, I'll show 386 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: you the truth. Look at what the incentives are. 387 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: And this is what's so frustrating to me, Buck. Ostensibly, 388 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: the media exist to help make sense of the world. 389 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: That's partly what we do. I think every single day. 390 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: The fact that they are just pretending that this IRS 391 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: whistleblower testimony, which is not from rabid partisans, it's one 392 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: of the two guys, like I said, just to play 393 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 3: the identity politics game, is a gay Democrat. 394 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 2: They don't know. Well, hold on, there's the don't know. 395 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: The audience, I'm saying, the audience, their audience. A lot 396 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 3: of them don't know. 397 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: Clay, I think you also think that I think that 398 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: you think that maybe more of them care, you know 399 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, than then, like they don't even knowing 400 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: that what happened happened, they don't care, as in it 401 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: doesn't upset them. They wanted it to be rigged, right, 402 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 4: so I don't I mean, it's tough to break down 403 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 4: how much of the Democrat base or audience, or the 404 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 4: CNN watchers the New York Times are what. 405 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: I agree that most of them are probably. 406 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: Just ignorant of the the They think the facts are different. Yes, 407 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 4: but there's also a big contingent. I you know, we're 408 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: just guessing here about the actual numbers. I think thirty percent, 409 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 4: maybe forty percent of Democrats know how dirty this was, 410 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: know how rigged it was, know that the FBI and 411 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: the IRS and these different institutions have been weaponized, and 412 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: they like it, you know what I mean. 413 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: I get that they're biased. I understand that perspective. Right, 414 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: They're just like my because this is basically sports. Right, 415 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: my team can do anything as long as. 416 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 4: We Wif my team pays off the ref and we 417 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: don't get caught, great, that's the attitude of the Democrat. 418 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: I've seen this buck. 419 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: This is why coming from sports is perfect, because if 420 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: your team cheats and gets away with it, most people 421 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 3: don't care. 422 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: I mean, if your star player is he. 423 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: Does something dirty, everyone's like that was very clever what 424 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 4: he did by pulling that if your. 425 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 3: Star player commits a crime, the number of people who 426 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: immediately will say that didn't happen in sports. I mean, 427 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: it's perfect, right, It's a perfect representation I think of 428 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: let's say thirty percent of to be fair political parties 429 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: in both directions where you can basically do anything. But 430 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: my thing is CNN and MSNBC, in New York Times, 431 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: the Washington Post. They lecture us all the time about 432 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: how they are the vanguard of democracy. Democracy dies in darkness. 433 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 3: All the news that's fit to print on top of 434 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: the Washington Post and the New York Times they are choosing. 435 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: This is where the deceit really gets me. Buck, I 436 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: feel somewhat sorry in the same way that I did 437 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: during COVID, when all these people thought they were gonna 438 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: die if they got COVID, and you're like twenty two 439 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 3: years old, and if you got COVID, you probably wouldn't 440 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: even know you had it. And they weren't running around 441 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: terrified because they bought into what they were being sold, 442 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: which is a falsehood. They're making a calculated decision, Buck, 443 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: at the top of the mastheads of all of those 444 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: institutions to directly disinform and not inform the truth to 445 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: their audience, and they are simultaneously lecturing all of us 446 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: about how and how dangerous disinformation is. It's a deceit 447 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: that is, once you see it. And this is what 448 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: I think every day, Buck. I think there are lots 449 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: of people out there who don't see it. This is 450 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 3: the red pill of analogy and why I think it 451 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: makes so much sense. I think the fifty percent of 452 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: people out there that don't know the Hunter Biden laptop 453 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: is real. I think a lot of them are good 454 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: and honest people. I really do. But they're being led 455 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 3: astray by a media that they consume that is being 456 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: fundamentally dishonest to them. 457 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: And you know a part of this is they've also 458 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: been told that the media, like this show for example, 459 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 4: that is telling them the truth about this, cannot be 460 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: trusted on this or anything, so just shut it out. 461 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 4: So they're being conditioned. This is very Pavlovian. They're being 462 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 4: conditioned to think, I should shut down whatever it is 463 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: that is coming in and telling me this other stuff 464 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 4: because I've been told so many times I CNN or 465 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: the New York Times or whatever, you can't trust these 466 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 4: other people. I mean, COVID is probably the best and 467 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: most clear example of this, but there are others as well. 468 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: Remember Front Page New York Times Business section. Some people 469 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 3: might have forgotten about this. 470 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: I haven't. 471 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: Front page New York Times Business section. They said, the 472 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show was what were we the 473 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: number four biggest purveyor of misinformation? 474 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 4: Excuse me, sir, excuse me, number three biggest purveyors of 475 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 4: disinformation on COVID? 476 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: Number three biggest purveyors of disinformation? 477 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 5: Was it? 478 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: I don't even think it was just COVID? I think 479 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 2: it was. 480 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: They actually just said disinformation in general and didn't even specify. 481 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: Because we asked, can you tell us what you remember this? Ali? 482 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: Ali can maybe step in here. We reached out front 483 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: page Business section, New York Times. He said, hey, will 484 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: you come on? Because they were citing a study. I 485 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: don't even remember the group that did the study. We said, 486 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: we will allow you to come on this program and 487 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: make the case to this audience about all the lies 488 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: that we've been spreading. When do you want to come on? 489 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: The study author? They said, we can, we cannot come on. 490 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: We went to the New York Times. The author of 491 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: that story said, hey, you just put this on the 492 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: front page New York Times Business section. You can come 493 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: on our show and you can tell this entire audience 494 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: everything that we've gotten wrong, and we can talk about it. 495 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 3: They wouldn't talk about it either. New York Times and 496 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: whoever that I don't remember the group whoever they were 497 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 3: that did that study that named us the number three 498 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: purveyor of misinformation in all of media, and they wouldn't 499 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 3: come on and talk to you. The larger the millions 500 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: of you that are listening every day. We said, hey, 501 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: open forum, you come on and tell us what we're 502 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: doing wrong, and they refused. 503 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 2: To do it. 504 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: We were just behind Bannon on that one. We're coming 505 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: for you on the misinformation front. We're going to catch 506 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: up to the misinformation. I mean, they wouldn't even. 507 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: Tell us what the misinformation was. That's crazy. 508 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 3: Give us the data. Come on and explain what we're 509 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 3: getting wrong. You can tell this audience. You have that 510 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: opportunity to tell this audience face to face about what 511 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 3: liars we are. 512 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: I just think is so important. 513 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: If they're wrong, they don't care because they think they're 514 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 4: wrong for the right reasons. And once you see that 515 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 4: framework of how they think about things, and it is 516 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 4: a very totalitarian mindset, but they don't care that if 517 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: you like you and me being right. Let's say about masking, 518 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 4: for example, which you were very early on that I 519 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: was very early on that it doesn't matter that we 520 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 4: were right because we were the wrong people and we 521 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 4: couldn't be trusted and we can't get credit for it 522 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: now because we have other wrong think ideas. 523 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Yeah, so it doesn't. 524 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 4: It never matters. They never stop and say, wow, you 525 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 4: of all the thousands and thousands of people who are 526 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 4: tweeting at me over the course of the pandemic, like 527 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: well don't you just mask up? And why don't you 528 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: read the science? And do you know how many have 529 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 4: come back and been like, I'm sorry, you were right? 530 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: None? 531 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: None, I know, I know. I always say you know 532 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: you're right when a story vanishes. 533 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: I did have it. I will never say. 534 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 4: Someone in right wing media, conservative media, challenged me to 535 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 4: a public debate on the efficacy of masking, and as 536 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: a friend, I texted this person and said, I'm going 537 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: to do you a favor for your career and say 538 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 4: that we shouldn't do this. And later on that person, 539 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: like six months later, was like, thank you for that. 540 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, well, I mean that happened, But yeah. 541 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: I know, we nail a story when it vanishes, right, 542 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: And that's what they're trying to do with COVID. 543 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: Now, they're trying to just memory hole all of this. Bs. 544 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: They arrested a guy on a paddle board in the 545 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: Pacific Ocean. I mean, they're trying to pretend that didn't 546 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: happen by himself on a baddle on a baddle board in. 547 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: The Pacific Ocean. 548 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 3: They shut down the ocean from people being able to 549 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: swim in it, and they're all just going. 550 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: To pretend that they did it. 551 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: I mean, going to start a park with saying they 552 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: took on basketball courts. 553 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 4: What do you think they'll be willing to do if 554 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: there are big protests in the streets over the persecution 555 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: and prosecution of Donald Trump. Don't don't think that they're 556 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: beyond any of this stuff. I know this, this audience 557 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: knows they're not beyond it. Put next year is gonna 558 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 4: get it's gonna get rough, it's. 559 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: Gonna be a mess, it's gonna be ugly. 560 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: And uh, by the way, you know who the people 561 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: were who were arresting the paddle boards probably people with 562 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: low testosterone, because if you had a little bit of 563 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: testosterone in your body. You had a spine, you had 564 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: a little bit of them, bigger vitality. Probably like to 565 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: work out, probably like to be outdoors. I wish we 566 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: could give a little bit of testosterone to all those 567 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: mass squares. And they're probably not listening right now, but 568 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: what they should do is they should go to Chalk 569 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: c Hoq. You know, male testosterone levels down fifty percent 570 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: over the last fifty years, which is crazy to think about. 571 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: Seeing what's fifty fourth anniversary of walking on the Moon. 572 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: I bet those guys had a lot more testosterone in 573 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: their bodies than we do today. 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Just rock out to the tunes. 594 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 4: You know, it's got a cowboy hat on and country music. 595 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 4: You know, I'm learning and he's got this song out. 596 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: The view is very upset about this. Can we play 597 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 4: what they're saying about it? 598 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: Do we have it yet? I thought we had Maybe 599 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: we have. 600 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: This man is from Macon, Georgia. My father's from Augusta, Georgia, 601 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 5: and Macon, Georgia. I spent many summers there is one 602 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: of the most racist places in this country. So don't 603 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 5: tell me it's not that he knew nothing. I'm out 604 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 5: what that imagery meant. 605 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: Damn what he can. Glay's jumping out of his chair here. 606 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: How old is Sonny hoston? She's like forty five or something, right, 607 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: she's around by age. Yeah, there is a zebo percent 608 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: chance that growing. I have been all over this. I 609 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 3: don't know if we're on in Macon right now, but 610 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: Mac and Georgia just getting absolutely obliterated on the you 611 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 3: as one of the most racist places in America. 612 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: I know we're on in Augusta. I mean if something 613 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: growing up in the fifties or something or. 614 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: The forties Clay put aside, she's basically saying, well, we 615 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: know because this guy's from Making Georgia that he's a 616 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 4: big racist. 617 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: It's like, that's what I'm saying on the. 618 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 3: Second, and she's saying it based on being there in 619 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: the eighties, the nineties and the two thousands, Like there's 620 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: no way that if she were ninety, I might be like, Okay, 621 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 3: she might have lived through some stuff and making Georgia 622 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: Suddy houstin going to make in Georgia in nineteen ninety 623 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: six was not dealing with some awful racist city. I mean, 624 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: this is so. And then to say anybody from there 625 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 3: is racist. 626 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, this is what I was gonna say. 627 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: Just how long how far are we here from some 628 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: clip of you saying something and they're just like, oh, well, 629 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: we know, we. 630 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: Can't trust that Klay Travis. 631 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: Because he's from Nashville. 632 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: Which is one of the most horrible, awful racist places 633 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: that's ever go. 634 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: We didn't even get to the full part of that clip. 635 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: I just had to cut it off. 636 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 3: That's such a lie, Sonny Hostin in nineteen ninety six, 637 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 3: she's hanging out and making Georgia. Come on, it was 638 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 3: perfectly fine, and same thing in Augusta. I mean, come on, 639 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 3: this is such a lie. And then to say because 640 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 3: Jason Alden is from making that means that he's racist. 641 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 3: Jason Aldeen's forty, he was born in like nineteen eighty. 642 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 3: He was ten in nineteen ninety. I mean, this idea 643 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: that you would be racist in nineteen ninety six, and 644 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 3: I'm just using ninety six as an example because Sonny 645 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: Hostin is saying this, you all know this. Anyone in 646 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 3: that community, anyone in the state of Georgia who hears 647 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: that Atlanta hosted the freaking Olympics. 648 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety six, I mean, I. 649 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: Just but then it it goes to show you like 650 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 4: there's there's just a real, just a seething contempt over 651 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: at the view for anyone who doesn't do doesn't take 652 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 4: the approach that they want them to do, it to take 653 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 4: and in this case, you know, as on the other 654 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 4: side of the of the political argument. I watched the 655 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 4: music video just why I could be very clear now 656 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 4: it's largely because the BLM riots happened during COVID, which 657 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 4: is also interesting in and of itself, isn't it. 658 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 2: Remember it's like, you can't gather together, We're all gonna. 659 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 4: Die, except for the giant racial justice protest burning down buildings. 660 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 3: Those are really scientists said, was okay. Fauci came out, 661 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 3: You couldn't you couldn't go and visit your ill relative 662 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: in the hospital. Lots of people had their parents and 663 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 3: grandparents die by themselves in a hospital. Fauci came out 664 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 3: and said, but hundreds of thousands of people should be 665 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 3: able to gather in the streets and march. I want 666 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: to still play that sunny Hastin thing. But also the 667 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: flip side here buck. Imagine if you where I came on, 668 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 3: somebody said had an opinion. Let's say Sonny Houston had 669 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 3: an opinion, and we came on and said, well, Sonny 670 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 3: Houston is from I don't know, she's I'm going to 671 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: name a city and people are gonna be furious that 672 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: I said it. She's from El Paso, and we know 673 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: everybody from El Paso is super erxist, especially if they're black. 674 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 3: It would be so super racist to say, Jason Aldeans 675 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 3: a white guy from Macon. Oh, Macon's racist, Jason al 676 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: Dean's racist. We gotta I want to play the rest 677 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 3: of this cut, but I got so fired up halfway 678 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 3: through it. 679 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 4: Just also, we have a big audience in al Passo, Clay, 680 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 4: So next time, let's pick a city where we're not 681 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 4: actually on for your example. 682 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I was worried about that. 683 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: I don't even know what we're giving the shows doing 684 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 3: so well. We're on everywhere now, so I can't even 685 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 3: pick hardly a city that we're not on in. What's 686 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: a city that I'll just blame everything on that we're 687 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 3: not on? In Dallas? We're not on in Dallas. We 688 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 3: shouldn't go with Springfield because there's so many of them. 689 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: I'd like the Simpsons