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Speaker 1: I never heard about No Limit Records, so I looked

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Speaker 1: When you post an article like that, that's totally fine,

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Speaker 1: But I didn't. I didn't think it was racist. But

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Speaker 1: We had three comments. The first one's from op Yeah,

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Speaker 1: opposite of a pressorence a discriminatory thing, and it's a

431
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: negative thing you're putting out. You're gonna receive back negativity.

432
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: You knew that it was the internet before you turned

433
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: the phone at your face to put it out, you know,

434
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about obviously death threats and shit

435
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: like that. Although I didn't see that stuff, you just

436
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: had to take her word for it that she experienced that.

437
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: And you know, we'll see maybe she did, maybe she didn't.

438
00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: But the point being, motherfuckers will say stuff like that, like, well,

439
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: a lot of practices don't see everybody, yes, but they

440
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,959
Speaker 1: don't make a point of going out of their way

441
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: to talk about who they don't see. They talk about

442
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: who they do see. It's like if yes. It's like

443
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: how the podcast is called therapy for Black Girls. It's

444
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: not called not Therapy for everybody else or therapy forever,

445
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: you know, like only black girl therapy, like they it's

446
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: a marketing thing, but it's also a vibe thing. No

447
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: one's making you take care of any type of client,

448
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: and so that's the difference. It's like if you did

449
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: your TikTok, if you were if you were a bakery

450
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: and you expressed your hesitancy to make wedding cakes for

451
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: gay people, that's that's not expressing a preference, really, But

452
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: people make the same argument, right that defend that shit.

453
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: Listen to. Christians should be able to have their rights.

454
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: It's like, no one's making you do anything, but you

455
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: expressed a dislike for a type of person, a broad

456
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: swathe of people. Yeah, they probably took it. They gonna

457
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: take it personally, and they're gonna feel hurt by.

458
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 5: It, right, and they're gonna feel a certain type of way,

459
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 5: and they have a right to feel a certain type

460
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 5: of way.

461
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: And the thing is just like anything else. Uh fo

462
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: freedom of speech.

463
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had the right to say it. The government

464
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 5: is not coming and shutting you down. But you also

465
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 5: have to deal with the consequences of your speech.

466
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: And that's the part that people they throw up.

467
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's it's not right, but but but

468
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 5: and that's the thing nobody's stopping you.

469
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: So what the are you talking about? When it comes to.

470
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: That couching the terms is like stuff like boundary. To me,

471
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: it is also a misnomer because it implies one that

472
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: it's like a relationship situation, not a professional business situation.

473
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm erecting a boundary.

474
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: It's like the erecting a boundary is not I'm not

475
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna take this type of client. That's different. A boundary

476
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: is like this person overstepped and I'm not gonna fuck

477
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: with this person anymore or in my personal life, I

478
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: don't do blank. You know, it's like, this is your business,

479
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: you're you have a practice, but you're expressing something a

480
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: little bit different in a boundary, Like a boundary is

481
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna lie this person to call me

482
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: at the ten. You see what I'm saying. It's not

483
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: I would never take the like when you put it

484
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: this way, when they bring up other groups, they don't take.

485
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: They don't take. They got like, I don't do couples.

486
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't do families. We don't, we don't. You don't

487
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: express it as a boundary though, like you're dating them,

488
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: you just go I don't do those people. So this

489
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: was different. I think people are being a little messy

490
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: with the word and on purpose so that they could

491
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: fight each other. And I just didn't think it was

492
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: worth all that they were.

493
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 5: And also you hit on a point and as somebody

494
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 5: who has been on the internet long enough and been

495
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 5: around various different groups of people and have experience being

496
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 5: on the receiving end of people that are just like me,

497
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 5: other black women doing some fuck shit and using the

498
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 5: black girl magic as an excuse to just do whatever

499
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 5: the fuck they want to do without consequences repercussions. As

500
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 5: somebody who has personally dealt with that, it's one of

501
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 5: those things where I go, no, no.

502
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: No, no, no. What we're not gonna do is this.

503
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 5: You know, you need to be held accountable and responsible

504
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 5: for your actions too, and just I'm you're a black woman,

505
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: and I'm a black woman too. And the thing is

506
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 5: when black women call that black women, all of a sudden,

507
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 5: you can't pull out the same cars. You can't pull

508
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 5: out the white car because I'm that white bitch. You

509
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: can't pull out the man car because I'm not a man.

510
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 5: I look just like you. And so I have the

511
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: right to quote unquote hold you accountable. But I think

512
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 5: they just don't want to be held accountable. That's a

513
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: whole other thing.

514
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: They would dismiss you and say you were a pick me.

515
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: That's the one I've been seeing for any other black

516
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: professional woman who's like, yeah, that was not a professional

517
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: thing for her to do. And you know, then they

518
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: get call pick means or you know, male identified as

519
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: another And so I see floating around like I don't

520
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what you can tell people when it's

521
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: like so, then basically there's no limit to just what

522
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: you can do, you know, because we have to support

523
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: the end the group we're in. But like I said,

524
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to rehash the whole fucking

525
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: thing we talked about at Nazim. I just want to say, like, yeah,

526
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: I think the perspective that Appia is bringing up is

527
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: the one I went to, which is if I was

528
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: the patient, I just don't feel like I'll be down

529
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: with this.

530
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I was the patient, you would never see

531
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 5: me again. I don't care what we got. No, I'm

532
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 5: not going don't. Let's just go ahead and sever this relationship, right,

533
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 5: you know, because it is a functioning relationship that you

534
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 5: have with each individual patient, and it's one of those

535
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 5: things where I'm actually coming here for help and you're

536
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 5: taking my business and talking about it like that, like

537
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 5: publicly like that. You are not helping me at all.

538
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 5: You're not helping me.

539
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 1: I don't want my shit use for clout I been

540
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: says also as a white person, if you don't want

541
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: white clients, it's your choices, Okay, But why I say

542
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: it on social media? Was it what is it good

543
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: for besides giving some fuel to the people think white

544
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: people are under some attack, That's all I'm saying, And

545
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: like the rest of us have to play stupid, Like

546
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: that's not like we have to play stupid, Like she

547
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: didn't put that out into an environment where she knew

548
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: that would be the response and would and like her,

549
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: she hasn't been engaging in going back and forth with

550
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: these people. And honestly, like, the main thing I kept

551
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: thinking was if she was a therapist for me and

552
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm working through like some trauma resolution type shit, some

553
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: tools I would like, I would look online and be like,

554
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: she don't have them either, and I need to go

555
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: somewhere else to somebody that actually do got them. And

556
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be just because I'm a black man, it

557
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: would be if I was anybody, Because it's just like

558
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm learning how I'm trying to learn not to be

559
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: doing this kind of shit, you know what I mean.

560
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: But you have to know peace to and experience piece

561
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: before you can really understand what it looks like. Because

562
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think they're at peace

563
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: without this fussing and fighting all these random strangers on

564
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: the internet, and I just don't identify with that anymore.

565
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

566
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 5: I me personally, I don't identify that it's peace because ye,

567
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 5: and what's even fucked up? What happened if you go

568
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 5: into this therapist and you're talking about the therapists, you've

569
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: seen the therapists doing the thing, same shit they're telling

570
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 5: you not to do.

571
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like the fuck.

572
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: It's very uh, it's very frustrating.

573
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 5: And it's one of those things where I could see

574
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 5: a decline in patience, like like you were talking about before,

575
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 5: I could see a lot of people who actually see

576
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: her because guess what, they know your face, they know

577
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 5: your name, they know your practice. They might never say

578
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 5: anything to you, but all of a sudden, you get

579
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 5: less and less patience because more the average patient who's

580
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: coming to therapy, and a lot and a lot of

581
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: people they took everything fucking in them to make the

582
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 5: phone call, to tap the click button, like it took

583
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: everything in them just to even reach out to start

584
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 5: the process, and they see this, this is not good.

585
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And even if this isn't your therapist, I bet

586
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,239
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of people who are turned off

587
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: by this. Is that aren't gonna get help because they

588
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: like it's it's like if you're doing it for the

589
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: reasons you're saying, you're doing it about how you want

590
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: to normalize therapy and shit, this ain't helping. This is

591
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: not the opposite of that, in my opinion, is stigmatizing

592
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: the type of person to say, basically, you know, don't

593
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: nobody want to help your ass, also as a white person,

594
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: if you don't want the white client. Oh yes, she

595
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: said that. All right, boom Razi says, I gave give

596
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: five stars with the episode. I agree with Ipia, nobody

597
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: needs another type of client. You choose not to work

598
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: with slash take. Yeah, I just don't get what happened.

599
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: I just telling a friend what happened in the group chat.

600
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: What happened?

601
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you said you're going online helping. This is well

602
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: not you said. But people do that stuff with TikTok

603
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: supposedly to help their own private like their their social media,

604
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: their brand. Like this is a bad look because and

605
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: you can almost tell when it's a bad look for

606
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: you because it's like you never see an actual professional brand,

607
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: let this type of content happen, Like you're never gonna

608
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: see like one eight hundred talk therapy be like put

609
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: out an ad where they like I would never have

610
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: a black man client because everybody be like, this is

611
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: the most racist, stupid shit I've heard. But when someone

612
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: individualizes it, were like, this is her flexing her power,

613
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't think so. It just seemed like

614
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: a bad business decision.

615
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 5: Yes it does. Just do what you're gonna do, and

616
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: just nobody has to know. Nobody really cares until you

617
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 5: make it public.

618
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Say like Acne said, psychologists and even clients doing this

619
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: should pay a heavy price for this, Like bruh, I'd

620
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: be fucking pissing my psychologists. Did this absolutely unforgivable. You

621
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: endangered me my issues or by extension and integrity of

622
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: your profession cause of people who hide their pain to

623
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: then renal eternalize years and decades of trauma. Not everything

624
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: needs to be content. Even if black men may have

625
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: been fucked up to you, I feel sorry for her.

626
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: You put a target on every other black man who

627
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: didn't give you shit. Yeah, man, once you throw there like,

628
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: we're in a bad place, and maybe we've always been,

629
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: but social media is just a place where we can

630
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 1: almost track it. But we're in a bad place where

631
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: anything bad people say about a black woman, there's certain

632
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: black men who are gonna glimb onto it and push,

633
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: push and push, and it doesn't really matter if it

634
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: makes any fucking sense. They can't help themselves. They gonna

635
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: do it. And we got a certain shit that if

636
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: it's bad about a black man and you say it,

637
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: people gonna push and push and push, and it's nothing

638
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: you can say to those people. Either on that side

639
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: where they be women, films, whatever they there, they their

640
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: experience has informed them either a through life and they

641
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: just believe every negative thing, or it's informed them enough

642
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: to where it's like the group dynamics are too strong.

643
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: I get too much push pull and too much dopamine

644
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: from from interacting based off of these topics every time.

645
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: And I think it does kind of lessen the worth

646
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Speaker 1: and the stem and the what else. Uh, it lessens

647
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the importance of real critique when we

648
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: couch shit like that's either personal, our own traumas or

649
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: something like that. In this like macro level speak of

650
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: like I'm speaking for the race, it really just lowers

651
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: the amount of time that people are like, yeah, I'm

652
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: just not listening to shit no more, and I do

653
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: think there's and it makes sense people a running cycles.

654
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: I think you're starting to see a decline and a

655
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: pushback to shit that even five years ago people were like, Hey,

656
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: this is cutting edge black feminist thought. And now you're

657
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: seeing people do the like hicko to these black feminists again,

658
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: and they're starting to win over people that were either

659
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: on the fence or these people who were like knee

660
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: deep in black feminism stuff. But the social movement online

661
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: of black feminism or what not even black femine, but

662
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: what people call a lot of black activism, the social

663
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: part of it is really losing momentum to some extent

664
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: because people are like, they've now seen the downside, they've

665
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: seen the negative side of the stuff that they hadn't

666
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: experienced five years ago. And now you know why al

667
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: sharp Thon and Jesse Jackson are some real ones, because

668
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: there's a lot of motherfuckers that couldn't even maintain five

669
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: years of internet activism without burning everybody to fuck out

670
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: or not popping up it all. At the they still

671
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: killing black people in the streets, and you don't see

672
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: people popping up no more because it's a lot more

673
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: work now too.

674
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, And and that's like I said, after a while,

675
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 5: machine to shine, the newness is gonna weigh out. And

676
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 5: guess what if you do it long enough, guess what

677
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: you're gonna be. You're gonna be the old nigga. And

678
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 5: it's gonna be somebody else popping up to how you

679
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 5: ain't doing it right.

680
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people quit before then. It's like

681
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: as soon as they get critiqued a few times, they out.

682
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: But because it's hard, and but the main thing is

683
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: this ship right here, I think it does lower it's

684
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: lowering the bar. Like us making a public debate out

685
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: of every time Russell and Sierra Lee they house. It

686
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: just lowers the bar of what is actual, critical, fart

687
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: and real because we don't. It's not that we have

688
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: some new shit to say. It's that those people who

689
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: engage in those debates, and I mean on both sides,

690
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: they like they actually like interacting with each other, yes,

691
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: they do, like, just leave they on both sides because

692
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: because anyone from a from afarward looking go one side

693
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: of this is completely fucking stupid and you would just

694
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: be able to be able to call balls and strikes

695
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: and be honest with yourself, like you know what, you're right?

696
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Why something inside of me wakes up everyone and hoping

697
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: that a motherfucker has something to say about Sierra so

698
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: I can hop on their page or hop on my

699
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: page or go back and forth in the comments, as

700
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: opposed to being like, why would I ever this person

701
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: is so fucking wrong, it's so overstepping the bounds. Why

702
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: would I ever engage with them?

703
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 5: But internal internal, looking and then turn in the mirror,

704
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: and people don't want to do that. I've just come

705
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 5: to the conclusion, Oh, people don't want to do work,

706
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 5: and I just go by my business.

707
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: And of course it would. It applies other ways too.

708
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: It's I feel the same way when I see people

709
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: that are so pro Beyonce they hate jay Z. I'm like,

710
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: how many how long are you going to do this?

711
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: And who are you really doing it for? Because you agree,

712
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 1: it's not like you have some effect over her life.

713
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: So clearly this is a weird, Like you're looking, you're

714
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: signaling for some company on this. Whether you want to

715
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: argue with people or what, I don't know, but it's

716
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of fucking weird, you know anyway, you want us

717
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: to be more open, yet then distigmatize us, I guess,

718
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: then stigmatize us. The fuck is that? Really? What's the

719
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: point of having all these avenues if you're going to

720
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: use these platforms to then use context free, draining platforms

721
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: only meant to exploit and makeup shit because because your

722
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: feelings are hurt. The reason why I needed a therapist

723
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: is because I went through a breakup and people were

724
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: worried about me and the shit I dealt with for

725
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: thirty five years of my life runs agamut, autism or

726
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: medical relationships, family trouble, depression, anxiety, etc. Been in therapy

727
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: for fourteen plus years. I'm a better person for it.

728
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: She's been good to me, and I've been good to her. However,

729
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: I keep that shit to myself or with friends or

730
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: family who know me. Not a platform laughing. Not a

731
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: platform laughing about once trauma fucked up childhood. Mistrust is

732
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,479
Speaker 1: in an all time high worldwide. That's a great point

733
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: practice practically for this reason. And yet and again said

734
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: it regarding Big Groove weeks ago, and I'll say here again,

735
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't trust these woes me niggas to be mature

736
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: about this. I don't, never will, I should. I shouldn't

737
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: take this so personal, but I do because I met

738
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: and chatted with these people in that consistency is by

739
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: the stables of fake ass leftists on Twitter or spous

740
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: and virtues of what being a liberal is. It's a

741
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: crack of ship because there's sanctimonious a person who's not

742
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: in the field using their platform to talk about otherwise

743
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: private session with their shrink is already fucked up. Professional psychologists, Oh, nigga,

744
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: we might be in a grappling contest, especially in this climate.

745
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: You shouldn't do this as a job, then you shouldn't.

746
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: You shouldn't play with people's heads like that. There's a

747
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: reason when people who deal with say, suicidal ideation called

748
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: now on one help us pretty much above the psychologists,

749
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: and there are other people who can help you coop

750
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: a cope. You don't use your high esteamed roll to

751
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: the then blasphemy me. Wait, you don't use your high

752
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: steam roll to the then blast theme me because some

753
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 1: nigga fuck with you, or worse, you're just stereotyping for cloud.

754
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: Both choices suck as far as I'm concerned. Help people

755
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: give them info on how to better cope with his,

756
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: her or their pay, not how you won't talk to

757
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: a certain group of people because of either narrative or whatever.

758
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: Keep get some help. Then every group is fucked up,

759
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: regardless of race. Get them the twols to help yourself

760
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: in the process. If you can't do these two things,

761
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: get the fuck out and find your job or that

762
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: you're comfortable doing. This Internet shit is killing people. Sick

763
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: of it? Peace.

764
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

765
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: My thing is actually like, even if you don't want

766
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: a certain type of client, just don't take that clients.

767
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: It's literally no, there was never a good reason to

768
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: express that in my opinion, like every good reason is

769
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: trump by equally like a bad reason on why the

770
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: response would would rightfully be negative towards you. I just

771
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: don't get it. It's just like on a fundamental level,

772
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: I feel like we probably can't all agree on everything

773
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 1: involving this woman does. She said a lot of ship,

774
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: but I think we can agree Like that's that is

775
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: unprofessional And I think if you can't even say that,

776
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: it's you're just so fucking biased. At that point, there's

777
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: literally nothing she could have done to which I'm like,

778
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm never I'm never gonna be in anyone's bag or

779
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: camp that much unless I completely know it. Like, the

780
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: only time you're gonna hear me say some shit like

781
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: that is because I fucking I'm like, yes, I know

782
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: I love this person that much. They can't do no wrong.

783
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: And normally when I feel that way, I'll be like,

784
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: I don't have a comment to say because I know

785
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: I know I'm wrong.

786
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: You talking to me for I'm biased? Talk to me?

787
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: Right? All right, Let's check the YouTube. It's had a

788
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: lot of comments. Some people wrote emails, but the comments

789
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: are so long. It was like a chapter of a book.

790
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can read them all. I mean,

791
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: it was just a you know, it's.

792
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: A long time email to show the black tips at

793
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: gmail dot com.

794
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: They did. That's what I'm saying. I've got we got

795
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: some emai else coming up. I've pre seen them and

796
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: they're so long. I honestly don't know if we can

797
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: read them. They're that long. You see what I'm saying.

798
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: They're good comments, But yeah, I.

799
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: Thought you were saying you had comments on YouTube that

800
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: was that long.

801
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: These are short, Frank says brah Man had come by

802
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: the apartment to make sandwiches. I think you're talking about

803
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 1: when my accidentally kicked my power out. Leonard brother says, Yo,

804
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: if any of that Will Smith shit is true, that

805
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: man is bugging out, that's crazy.

806
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

807
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: You also said Leonard outs is hilarious, so him opening

808
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: for Janelle is dope. Chanelle Shannon says, these therapists about

809
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 1: should lose their license. This undermines the entire profession, right,

810
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: it make sense?

811
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 6: Yeah?

812
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: I think it's also weird how like people that were

813
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: licensed therapists were kind of taunting at the idea of

814
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: like ha ha ha, y'all don't know we can do

815
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: shit like this and get away with it. They can't

816
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: take her license, Da da da. And what I kept

817
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: thinking was, don't tell me you're here to help people.

818
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: That don't sound that sounds like a weird rag. That

819
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you're actually talking about people as human beings.

820
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: Like you're still involved, you're still in that gender warshit

821
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: cause you think it's like a notch on your belt,

822
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: like ha, how we won today. You can't get her fired,

823
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: And it's like that shouldn't even really be the points

824
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: you can still be like I don't think she should

825
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: get fired, but this wasn't professional, Like it was like

826
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't even about being professionals. Could she get away

827
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: with it? And I'm like, that's like saying, well a

828
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: nurse can get away with doing the running Man during

829
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: your surgery and posting it to a TikTok. That don't

830
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: make it good When you wake up hopefully and see

831
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: and see that theay was doing that during your operation.

832
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: You don't have to feel good about it. You can

833
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: be like fuck that person.

834
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: Correct.

835
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 5: And it's also one of the things too, where if

836
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 5: I was a patient on these people.

837
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: That's going to ah, I'm leaving you too.

838
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 5: You're not mature either, the fuck like everybody's going end

839
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 5: up losing patience.

840
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: And then the poll was do your coworkers follow your

841
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: social media account? Twenty eight percent yes, seventy two percent no,

842
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: and on Spotify same percentage like twenty seven to seventy three,

843
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: one percent difference. And then the Q and A was

844
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: google your therapist and see if they're using you for tiktoks.

845
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Rachel said, seems Holly dont have to go for them

846
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: to do that. And old therapists told me that if

847
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: he saw me in public, he would most likely not

848
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: even acknowledge me. Damn am I that fucked up, just kidding,

849
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: but I did respect that. My therapist told me that too.

850
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: She was actually told me it was up to me.

851
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: She's like, some people don't want.

852
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 5: To feel certain ways. Some people, yeah, they won't to

853
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 5: act like y'all strangers. And then some people will actually

854
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 5: acknowledge you, right, and and that makes sense.

855
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: They leave it up to you. They're probably cool either way.

856
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Right Katie, And says, TikTok tried to make me follow

857
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: my therapist and it was a meeting. No ooh ooh,

858
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: because they know in your phone. Oh oh no, man,

859
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: nah see the algorithm. I don't need to know that.

860
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: I don't need to know that. She wasn't even using

861
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: her her name. It was her photo, but I don't

862
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: have her photo story in my contacts. It was very weird. Yeah,

863
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: it knows some ship from your context.

864
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: It's something, it's something that is linking up.

865
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: Because mine found like a dude I play ball with

866
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: that's a chef, and it would show me his it

867
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: would show me his tiktoks about being a chef and

868
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: his motivational tiktoks and stuff. And it was just like, damn,

869
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: I didn't put his name in there. I didn't even

870
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: know he had a TikTok.

871
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: Who knows something?

872
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Aaron said, she's not. Thank goodness. Yeah, I just don't

873
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: know why. I mean, listen, I've heard the other side

874
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: of this, adnoledge him. I just it's one of those

875
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: times I just don't agree with it. I just I

876
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: just don't see how people think it's cool to do

877
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: what she did. And I really do believe in my

878
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: heart of hearts, if another type of person that was

879
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: not a black woman did this ship, a lot of

880
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: people would feel differently.

881
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: On the other side, dare you, what's wrong with you?

882
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 2: This is unprofessional my thing.

883
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 5: If it's unprofessional for her for them, it's unprofessional for

884
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 5: her also. And it's one of those people one of

885
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 5: the times where you doing this shit and you're gonna

886
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 5: fuck around and somebody gonna come in there for a

887
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: session and tables are gonna be shaking because we're gonna

888
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: be like, the fuck is wrong with you?

889
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: You don't know?

890
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: Yep. Last one is two six eight four Goodbye Diversity.

891
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: We had Appia who said, put a sick beat under

892
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: that MAOIs song and it's a year of dance track.

893
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: She also says Hugh Grant was on the red carpet

894
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: and wanted to fill above it, So why did he

895
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: walk it? Actually, Graham is of German and English Heritageyeah,

896
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: because I thought she might have been a Latina. I

897
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: was wrong. My girl nick Ju corrected me, and uh, yeah,

898
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: I guess I just forgot, or maybe I might have

899
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: gotten got because I remember a controversy on social media

900
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: a few years back that she was on the cover

901
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: of Latina magazine or something, And now I'm thinking about

902
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: it because I went to Google to see if that

903
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: was ever a thing. I didn't see it any pictures

904
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: of it. I didn't see anything like that, And it

905
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: makes me wonder if someone because it was at a

906
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: time it was cool to hate her, and it made

907
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: me wonder if someone specifically made that image and got

908
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: us all fighting about it, and then you find out

909
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: that's not even real, right, because I definitely remember the

910
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: image in my head of like in a debate on

911
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: social media about it. But it must have been fake or.

912
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: Something, right, That's why I didn't think she was white.

913
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I think we may even cover it on

914
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: the podcast or something. I just I just it just

915
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: seemed it was a long time ago, and I vaguely

916
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: remember it, but it was like a huge fucking like

917
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: she's not even Latina or whatever, and I'm like, she's

918
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: not trying to say she passing, and now I know,

919
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, she says she might have the same

920
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: condition as your friend Ipia. The appearance doesn't fit the heritage.

921
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm pretty much Eastern European as some other DNA looking

922
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: Greek or Spanish. Ramsey d says five stars for Layla

923
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: cat remix and the entire episode. Sadler says, the only

924
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: thing I have to add about this year is Oscars.

925
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm glad Andrea Roseborough didn't get an award for her

926
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: performance into Leslie. They wasted a grassroots campaign for that.

927
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: The film was okay with Roseboro and even Mark Marrin

928
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: had done better films prior. Okay. I do want to

929
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: add something, but yeah, wow, I don't think Jamie Lee

930
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: Curtis didn't deserve the award for everything everywhere all at once,

931
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: considering the same award show doesn't acknowledge horror comedies or

932
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: the same level of dramas or some high art flick

933
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: that does jazz hands. I do get it. It's her

934
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: first nomination in her fist victory. I felt bad for

935
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: Angela Basset, who gave it her all on Wakanda Forever

936
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 1: and then some. But that's the weird about these award shows.

937
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: I guess I too, stayed away from much of the

938
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: conversations about it. I haven't watched these since twenty fifteen.

939
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: Stephanie Schoe was better than JLC in my opinion, But again,

940
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: I guess it's never truly the best actor slash actress

941
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: slash director, film a cinematography that gets these. It's who

942
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: we like over who's truly the best. Some oscar Roters

943
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: are still doing their racist takes. Superhero films don't deserve notoriety,

944
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: et cetera. Sanctimony gone sanctimony. On the bright side, been

945
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: getting me, getting My getting my something to Larry Sanders,

946
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: which felt like an achievement because that's show rules. Never

947
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: watched it before and wow, good shit, take care. Here's

948
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: here's the thing I will say about the Oscars. And

949
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm realizing this now and and but especially after listening

950
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: to Righteous Prick this year where he talked about the Oscars.

951
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: The thing I'm realizing is that for race nerds, whether

952
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: they know they're race nerds or not. For race nerds,

953
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: the oscars is also a type of entertainment, even knowing

954
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: it will disappoint you, let you down, or whatever. But

955
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: when you extrapolate out the rape, when you start trying

956
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: to figure out the reasoning for who wins and why,

957
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: it is one of those things that people who are

958
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: fixated or learned know a lot about race. It begs

959
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: the question and you want to find these micro these

960
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: macro narratives to go over these these decisions. The truth

961
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: of the matter is the way most of us discuss

962
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: the oscars is wrong. It were being we say, we

963
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: think and create narratives that are like a one person,

964
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: like a guy named Oscar decided as opposed to a

965
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: body of voters, and then we assume certain things and

966
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: attribute to a certain amount of organization and power to them.

967
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: When what I think is happening is the same thing

968
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: Kendrick Perkins says happening with MVP voting, where there's just

969
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: bias at play, and it's never like it's not conscious bias,

970
00:49:51,480 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: but enough people are vocally or adamantly united with out

971
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: individually being united, you know what I'm saying, Like they're right,

972
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: they're united under their belief system, but not necessarily their

973
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 1: the actions and the communication. So I think that's what happens.

974
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: I think years like this is just like we're never

975
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: giving a Marvel film an award. But they didn't have

976
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: a discussion, they didn't like hit each other up. They

977
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: just all were like, well, it can't be Angela Bassett.

978
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: We like Jamie Lee, she ain't never won before. She's

979
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: getting up there. She's sixty four, so is Angela Bassett,

980
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give it to her because blah blah blah.

981
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: Like I really think it's that the math is that

982
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: simple for them sometimes and even and we buy into

983
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: it because when a black person does win, who's the

984
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: first people to start writing narratives about it? It's black

985
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: people normally, you know, like when what is her name?

986
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: The woman from the woman from abviod Elementary that plays

987
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: the older black teacher, Why can't I Why am I

988
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: drawing a fucking blank? Oh my god?

989
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: Uh Ralph?

990
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: Yes, Sharlee Ralph. Goddamn When Sherlee Ralth won. How Shirley

991
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Ralph won? How many black publications started printing out like

992
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: like this is basically a career achievement for her. This

993
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: is she's been acting since this long, right, So I

994
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: think people can't help but think like that, like if

995
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: this person won, what would it mean on a bigger scale?

996
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: And some of that doesn't even require watching the fucking movie,

997
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: is my point. It's not they they That's the thing

998
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: is people discuss it like it's a merit award when

999
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: someone they want to win wins, when it's the other way.

1000
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it becomes every narrative besides that

1001
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: because it is they didn't deserve it. So then why

1002
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: did they win? Oh because it's a white person. Oh

1003
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: because it's a man. Uh. And in many cases people

1004
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: flip this is the one time that apparently being a

1005
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: fucking diverse person it's helpful, Right, black person wins the

1006
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: Oscars all of a sudden, This what they just wanted

1007
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: to give the diversity something. Clearly, it couldn't have been

1008
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: the best movie because it's black. You know, It's like

1009
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: you can never win. So yeah, I think that's what happens.

1010
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: Is a lot of there's a lot of discussion around

1011
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: that because people are obsessed about that.

1012
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: Agreed.

1013
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is the one place that I'm not

1014
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: like this is the one place where they broke me

1015
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and I'm just like, yeah, I

1016
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm not yeah, I'm not gonna watch. I'm

1017
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: not interested. I know what I liked and that's about.

1018
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 5: It, and what I didn't like base and a lot

1019
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 5: of things based off the things that I saw, because

1020
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 5: nobody watches everything, and like you said, a lot of

1021
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 5: people they watch their ship and they go fuck the

1022
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 5: other ship, even if the other ship may be better.

1023
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, yeah, my phone feel okay.

1024
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: On YouTube, it says Tisi with Fee says, I definitely

1025
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: do a temperature check with my son on how he

1026
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: feels about me and our relationship, asking straight up, how

1027
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: do you feel? How do you feel about me? As

1028
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 1: your mom watch? I watch uh way too many true

1029
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: crime doctrinaries to let hurt feelings go unchecked. This negro

1030
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: is not gonna kill me in my sleep because I

1031
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 1: did something when he was six. L O L love

1032
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: you guys. Oh you ain't.

1033
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 2: Gonna take me out because you're mad at me. Let's

1034
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: talk about it. How you feeling. Let me check on you.

1035
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: Let me check the temperature of the room.

1036
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: I see I'm not the only one that watches, uh

1037
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: for My Man and Fatal Attraction, Karen, I think you

1038
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: have a food delivery at the door. Do you want

1039
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: to go get it? I can vamp for a while, okay,

1040
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: all right? So uh yeah, I watched listen, I watched

1041
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: Fatal Attraction. I watched for My Man and all that

1042
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: that that troup snapped. And you know a lot of times, man,

1043
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: some small killer kids out here, you gotta be careful,

1044
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: y'all know if y'all raising a little killer kid. I

1045
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: don't you know, y'all know the signs cat's heads in

1046
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: the double bag or whatever the fuck, or you know,

1047
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: y'all you know all the all the Barbie dolls got

1048
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: their clothes off and they they burning them whatever it is,

1049
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: y'all know what it is, and you gotta watch out

1050
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: for that shit. Like I feel like, I feel like

1051
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 1: if they got them angry tendencies, you know, you gotta

1052
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: start checking in with him. And a lot of times

1053
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember I had a coworker, and I

1054
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: knew he would be the dude to shoot up the

1055
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: job if we were gonna get the shot up as

1056
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: a job. And most of y'all probably already know who

1057
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: y'alls is to. I knew who that man was. I

1058
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: said he would shoot us all and I was extra

1059
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: friendly to that man. Okay, we was communicating all the time.

1060
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: We was the coolest people in the I said, hey,

1061
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: if you got my phone number if you ever need anything,

1062
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: And all I kept thinking was he got my phone

1063
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: number because maybe he might on a whim text me

1064
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: from the parking line and go, Rod, don't go mind today,

1065
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, And that's all I need. I wouldn't even

1066
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: I promise, I wouldn't even tell nobody else. I just

1067
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: let them die. So that's so if you got that

1068
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: and that man was some nobody's friends and somebody's son,

1069
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: and that people, the people that raised him, they knew,

1070
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: and they didn't check in. That's what I'm saying. You

1071
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: gotta check in. If you if they got that school

1072
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: shoot the energy, you gotta check in, dog, That's what

1073
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: That's what it is. I'm just trying to help y'all live.

1074
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm really impressed with your parents, because

1075
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: that's really what it's all about. I don't read too

1076
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: many sore ratching the stories that's son against mother for

1077
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: us to even pretend like you ain't making a good point,

1078
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: all right. The poll was should Angela Bastia have clap

1079
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: for Jamie Lee Curtis eighteen percent yes, eighty two percent no, uh,

1080
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: And I made sure not to leave it like it's

1081
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: up to her. I don't know. I wanted y'all to

1082
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,439
Speaker 1: pick uh. And then on the spot on Spotify twenty

1083
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: two percent, so a little higher. Yes, seventy eight percent though,

1084
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: but most of the people saying no, she shouldn't have

1085
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: clap for.

1086
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: You know, she wouldn't obligate it too. Yeah, I'm not

1087
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: gonna lie.

1088
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: I won't lie. I would have clapped. I would have clapped,

1089
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: But that's just me, right, I'm just that's the kind

1090
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: of person I am. And on one hand, I kind

1091
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: of respect that she just was like, no, I'm gonna

1092
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: keep it real for a second. This is fucked up.

1093
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: And on the other hand, I know that I don't

1094
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: have it any I would have been like yay, but

1095
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: inside I was going like, man, fuck that, all right,

1096
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: here's the Q and A boneless wings are chicken nuggets,

1097
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: creasy says other cocktails that sound racist. Nigrony white lady,

1098
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: white Russian black Russian agreed agreed. Another one that sounds racist,

1099
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: Arnold Palmer. I'm not saying he was, just saying it

1100
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: sounds that way delicious. Uh Rachel says, I don't another

1101
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: one that sounds black, I mean sounds white. Tom Collins.

1102
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: Uh Rachel says, that definitely sounds white. And the first

1103
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: time I heard that, I thought it was white men.

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00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: Uh Rachel says, I don't fuck with boneless wings. Also,

1105
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: and Angela act a sweet chocolate heart out. Everybody in

1106
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: that room know this was a legacy win for Jamie.

1107
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Let her be mad in peace. We all know what's up. Yeah,

1108
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: And I felt bad because I do think people took

1109
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: it too far on Jamie Lee Curtis. But it's just

1110
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: what people do, and it's they're angry, and so they

1111
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: just you know, they're gonna start roasting her and trying

1112
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: to form like a hate community against her. But it's

1113
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: just like, man, it's kind of fucked up to take

1114
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: pictures of her and zoom in and be like, look

1115
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: at her, then look at Angela Bass and it's like,

1116
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: what are we trying to prove with that that we

1117
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: also measure women by their their looks and not there

1118
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, and how Yeah, it's just it's just there's

1119
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: nothing good to be mined out of this. It's just,

1120
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of the reasons I don't watch

1121
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: It's just itck all around because a lot of times, man,

1122
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: it's narratively and just in your life, Like it's a

1123
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: win for those people. They've been fighting their whole lives too.

1124
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: It's not their fault that that they may benefit from

1125
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: some shit that they shouldn't have. But like, you know,

1126
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: you do your best work and you hope that it

1127
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: gets nominated. And that part was a thin part. But

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00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee did do a good job in the movie.

1129
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: I didn't leave the movie and go god damn that

1130
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: she was terrible. So, like, it just sucks. It just

1131
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: fucking sucks. She didn't even make that decision. She don't

1132
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: even get to make the decision to be nominated, right,

1133
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: It's just fucking it just fucking sucks.

1134
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 8: You know.

1135
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: Rap says I went with number four, Miss Baskett, because

1136
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: I agree with your take. Well, I feel like I

1137
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: would have clapped. I can't say if I would if

1138
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: I was in her shoes. I'll go eat some Rby's

1139
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: then Sue pray for me. Uh, Roder says they showz

1140
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 1: and Nelson says facts be Yeah, biggest marketing spend ever.

1141
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: They nothing but big ass nuggas for adults. They Doamona

1142
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: no uh, shay Bay says, or Sha says chicken tenders

1143
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: all the way. They are good. They are good, And

1144
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: Keenan says true. I just prefer bone in. Probably the

1145
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: ancestors fault. I don't a bone in. They're not bad boning.

1146
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: If I had to pick between wings bone in, it's

1147
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: obviously my wing that I want to go.

1148
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: To my nigga. That's what and put like this. I

1149
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: just stopped. That's what I got, some bone in wings.

1150
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did.

1151
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: I sure did, all right. My chicken on three guys

1152
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: on shout out to three g O.

1153
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna get some chicken, chicken, chicken chicken

1154
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: later on.

1155
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: Let's get chick.

1156
00:59:35,280 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: Let's get to the voicemails. All right, voicemail Tom. The

1157
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: first one is from Gen from Brooklyn, who left two voicemails.

1158
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: Okay, hey Rod and Karen, it's Jen. I just listened

1159
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 3: to the feedback episode and Rod, what you said about

1160
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: I think we're outgrowing stand up comedy. Really struck a

1161
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 3: nerve with me. I was like, yes, because I also

1162
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: really loved stand up comedy and half for a while,

1163
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: and that's not the average experience, you know, Like I

1164
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: used to watch Comic View was huge for me. I

1165
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: used to watch The Daily Show and that was like

1166
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: a big no. Comic View and the Daily Show with

1167
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: both big no nos. For like, definitely, my parents had

1168
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 3: to be asleep and we were sneaking downstairs, I think.

1169
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 3: And then obviously then growing up, like people used to,

1170
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: I used to obviously download a lot of stuff. I'm

1171
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 3: like LimeWire in terms of music, but I used to

1172
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 3: downbouve comedy albums too because I didn't have enough money

1173
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 3: to go out and like buy albums. And so I

1174
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: remember I used to listen to Jim Brewer a lot

1175
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: and watch his stand up and just watch specials on

1176
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 3: Comedy Central in general, and I used to even like,

1177
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if y'all remember Pablo Francisco, who I

1178
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: don't think. I mean, I gotta look him up. I

1179
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 3: don't know if he's doing well because he was on

1180
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: the way out. But like just me and my brother

1181
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 3: used to bond over stand up comedy and then you know,

1182
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 3: I like was grew up in North Carolina, so I

1183
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 3: didn't actually go out and see comedy until after college

1184
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: because I wasn't really like I was like seventeen when

1185
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 3: I was still living in North Carolina, So I didn't

1186
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: get to actually go out and see folks until a

1187
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 3: little bit older, like, you know, after I was like

1188
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: twenty one and whatnot and living in New York for

1189
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 3: ten years, Like you could go to Midtown and they

1190
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: would just be like stand up comedy show and you

1191
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 3: could go see like pretty big acts for like ten

1192
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: twenty bucks. I remember I went and saw random comedy

1193
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 3: show and my godfriend ended up closing out the night

1194
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: and that stuff kind of stuff I'm sure you know

1195
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: happens all the time. So like you know, with people

1196
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: watching everybody at large watching Chris Rock, they're not even, like,

1197
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: like you said, comedy fans like y'all aren't really sitting around.

1198
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah I cut off, but coming right back.

1199
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 3: Okay, y'all already know I got cut off.

1200
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Wait, Cam, would you rather comment now?

1201
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah yeah, if you don't mind.

1202
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1203
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 5: And then this year where she was saying and how

1204
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 5: people have outgrown commented, that's true.

1205
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 2: And I decide you like they said, like I said,

1206
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 2: this was so big.

1207
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 5: You had a lot of people who don't have a

1208
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 5: funny bone in their body making comments and actually tweeting

1209
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 5: this like this was the thesis, you know, or paper

1210
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 5: report versus treating like comedy. And also, people like me

1211
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 5: and you, we watch comedy comedians, but we also watched

1212
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 5: a lot of sketch comedy too, like you know, you're

1213
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 5: mad TVs, you know, like you know, so we watched

1214
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 5: like comedy in various different forms, not always a comedy

1215
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 5: with the microphone in their heads and.

1216
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: Telling the yuck yucks.

1217
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 5: So you know, for us, we'd go, oh yeah, we

1218
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 5: like comedy because we like these various different ways of

1219
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 5: things that make us laugh, and like it's a lot

1220
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 5: of things that you know, we consume that make us

1221
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 5: laugh that a lot of people could consider cringe.

1222
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 2: Worthy comedy, like who is it? Oh, what's that show?

1223
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: You like?

1224
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 5: Dun Yes, the thing, the thing and I'm not hacking

1225
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 5: got caught up incurve.

1226
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: But the thing I like about curb is that it's

1227
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: that cringe worthy comedy.

1228
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 5: It's that comedy with situations happened, and that fucked up

1229
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 5: situations that will make most peopeel uncomfortable.

1230
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: But the shit is just funny, you know.

1231
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 5: And so I think for a lot of people, they

1232
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 5: never watched sketch comedy. They won't endo sketch comedy, even

1233
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 5: they didn't even watch no all that, none of that

1234
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 5: they was just comedy just was not their thing. Or

1235
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 5: a lot of people not chining fun They capped comedy

1236
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 5: off at cartoons like their Scooby Dudes ship like that,

1237
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 5: Like they never the comedy that they're love of, comedy

1238
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 5: of matures, if that makes sense, Like they go, this

1239
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 5: is what I consider comedy.

1240
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: Comedy is for kids.

1241
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 5: I don't think this shit is funny, And they look

1242
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 5: at everything through that particular leans and or they were

1243
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 5: raised in households that didn't laugh a lot like I was,

1244
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 5: and so, but they never had anybody come around them

1245
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 5: to actually make them understand comedy and how comedy works

1246
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 5: and kind of relax on that front. And so you

1247
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 5: have adults who never had a funny bone in and

1248
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 5: their body critiquing some shit that they have no business critiquing.

1249
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 5: And actually, you got to gotta dismiss what they're saying,

1250
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 5: because it's like well, dog, your opinion don't matter on

1251
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 5: this because it literally is not your lane.

1252
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes the cringe is the comedy, and sometimes there's

1253
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: just an element of cringe that's supposed to be in

1254
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: the comedy and it's on purpose. Well, it happens is

1255
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: people start treating it like it was an act, like

1256
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 1: they discovered something like this happenstance, like ooh, I found

1257
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: I found out that this thing is cringey or I

1258
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 1: found out. And then the other thing that happens is

1259
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: we grow and we change, and then we started judging

1260
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: the comedy by shit that we thought was funny at

1261
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: the time. You know, it's like, oh, I would never

1262
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: do such and such, you know, and it's like, yeah,

1263
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: but you did. You laughed at it. You thought it

1264
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: was funny back then.

1265
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1266
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: It's like whenever one of the critiques level that Rock

1267
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: is that he's a misogynist, and I'm always I'm never

1268
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna back down on this. He always was. He's probably

1269
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: less misogynistic now than he was at the when he

1270
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: first came out, but he always was. He never slid

1271
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: it past us, and we didn't notice. We just thought

1272
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: it was funny to make those jokes at the time,

1273
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: and in addition to always being one he most of

1274
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: the comedic world me and and women have some very

1275
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: misogynistic elements to just the stand up culture and and

1276
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: what happens in those rooms. The jokes they make, even

1277
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: the ones that are like pro woman, sometimes are knocking

1278
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: a different type of woman and stuff like. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just the difference is that we used to have

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Speaker 1: an understanding that this is a room where experimental thought

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Speaker 1: takes place, where where where boundaries are pushed, and we

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Speaker 1: don't have to always like it, consent to it. You

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01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: won't always get popular or famous off of it. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: people just don't fuck with you. But at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, there were always some people whose thing

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Speaker 1: was they go beyond the line, and enough people like

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Speaker 1: it and our part and our fans of it that

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Speaker 1: as long as it's well crafted, it's allowed to stand,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I just think we don't see that

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Speaker 1: part anymore.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: People are like, it doesn't matter if it's well crafted.

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Speaker 1: At least on the Internet, they're like that, and it's

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Speaker 1: just and it's a disconnection from reality because obviously these

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Speaker 1: people are millionaires and fucking selling out places so clearly

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Speaker 1: it's a disconnect from like the online culture is this

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Speaker 1: person was never shit, and the offline culture is this

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Speaker 1: motherfucker just did a tour and sold out every venue.

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Speaker 1: So somebody line, all right, right, let me play the

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Speaker 1: second part.

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Speaker 3: But I was saying, yeah, y'all aren't really sitting around

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Speaker 3: to watch on a regular basis, and like to this day,

1303
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: I think my favorite podcast, and probably why I like

1304
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: y'all's podcast so much, is that you have a lot

1305
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: of comedians on another. One of my favorite podcasts is

1306
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 3: a podcast called Couples Therapy with my favorite comedian, Naomi K. Paragan,

1307
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,959
Speaker 3: who just did the stand up special that Comedy Central

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Speaker 3: doesn't they give everybody, I think like half an hour

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01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 3: and then that was really great. But I think people

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Speaker 3: who like stand up comedy and go see it in

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01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 3: real life and watch specials regularly, like you already know

1312
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: if you go out to a comedy show, it's gonna

1313
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 3: be maybe six seven acts, and you might like one

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01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: or two, and even of those tool like people are

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01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 3: trying out new material. You're hearing stuff that may not

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01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 3: work if they're like using you as a gauge to

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Speaker 3: see for the work and I'm the kind of person

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01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna laugh anyway because there's a lot of

1319
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: energy in a room. So yeah, you just really like

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Speaker 3: reminded me of how much I love stand up comedy

1321
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Speaker 3: and like probably why I gravitate towards your podcast, among

1322
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 3: a lot of other reasons. And I just went to

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01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm in La now. So I went to the comedy

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Speaker 3: Store for the first time a couple of weekends ago,

1325
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: because you know, with COVID and everything, I moved here

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Speaker 3: in the middle of COVID, so I hadn't really been

1327
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 3: out like that, and I'm starting to go to shows

1328
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 3: and everything again. And I went to the comedy Store

1329
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Speaker 3: and on the same thing, like some people really cracked

1330
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 3: me up, and then some people, like you know, it

1331
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 3: was kind of dead, and the audience is feeling that

1332
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 3: some people really good crowd work, and it's just like

1333
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 3: there's like such an art and such a it is

1334
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 3: such a different art form. So and thank you for

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 3: like kind of bringing that to LFE of like, there's

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Speaker 3: like a huge portion of the media that's watching Chris

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01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 3: the Rock that doesn't even do this regularly, and they

1338
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 3: don't really know how to absorb that media. So Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was cool. I really liked y'all's analysis of that,

1340
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 3: and you're like level headed analysis of the whole event,

1341
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: you know, from last year to now. So thanks y'all

1342
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Speaker 3: and hope you have a good week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you made me think of two more things. One

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01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: comic View comic used to be not comic view comics. Oh,

1345
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: I know, I was gonna say it's three things. One

1346
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: Comicview was after it got redundant and they just started

1347
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: chopping up and editing things, some of it old material.

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: It actually taught me out to deconstruct the joke because

1349
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: they would show the setup, then they would show like

1350
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: the middle, and then they would show a punchline and

1351
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: they would slice in different comedians.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: It also proved that a lot of jokes are the

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01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: same or similar the setups, and a lot of black

1355
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: comedy was the same shit over and over. But some

1356
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: people were able to make us stand out by you know,

1357
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: zagging with other people zigged and shit. But the point

1358
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: being shot out to comed View taught me how to

1359
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: break down a joke. Two comedy used to be an

1360
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Speaker 1: event stand up like this, this what's happening is that

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Speaker 1: Chris Rock was proof that he was funny. He was

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Speaker 1: proof that he was box office. He was proof that

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01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: he was a big deal. People say, why did he

1364
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: do it live? Part of why he did it live

1365
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: was the show he ain't like these other niggas, like,

1366
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: he ain't just somebody so this whole Yeah he has

1367
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: been or he ain't. No, he ain't been funny forever. Well,

1368
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 1: guess what, you're tuned in live or you watch it later,

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Speaker 1: and he's one of a handful of people on the

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Speaker 1: planet that could do that, that could shut it down

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01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: like that. That had everybody online talking about it. That's

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Speaker 1: why they paid them the forty million dollars because it

1373
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: ain't but so many motherfuckers that can do that shit.

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Speaker 1: So that was one of the things. I think that

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01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: we used to have that that because it used to

1376
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: go through like the gatekeepers and they'd be like, HBO

1377
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: only gonna have two to four live Saturday comed like

1378
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: stand up comedy events, you know, or even if it

1379
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Speaker 1: wasn't live, it's the first time everyone was seeing it live.

1380
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: They used to only do that a couple times a year.

1381
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Speaker 1: So of course everyone remembers seeing Eddie Murphy roar. It

1382
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: was a fucking event. Comedy hadn't been an event like

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01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: that since. Really, I maybe a little bit after killing

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Speaker 1: them softly, because I feel like killing them softly was

1385
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Speaker 1: an event to me as a super Dupis Chapel fan,

1386
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Speaker 1: but his next one was the event to most people

1387
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Speaker 1: because they killing them softly was their true introduction to

1388
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: this is a goddamn beat, He's something different. And so

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: then it was the next one that he did in

1390
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: San fran I think they had everybody like too, and

1391
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: it was at the Chapelle Show. But anyway, my point being,

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Speaker 1: we lost that because we have twenty seven fucking streaming

1393
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: services and they're all buying stand up, but none of

1394
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: them truly commit the stand up. They just have it

1395
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: as a thing to have. And lastly, viewers are the

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01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: content now, and you just can't separate this from none

1397
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: of that. Like what I think about the special is

1398
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: content for me on this podcast, and it's just part

1399
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: of the formula now. Now, some people do it in

1400
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 1: good faith and they're like, this is what I think.

1401
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be salacious. I'm gonna keep it real.

1402
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: But there's a ton of people that are like, man,

1403
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: I want to get the clicks and the clicks, are

1404
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: taking each joke out of context, acting like he gave

1405
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: a ted talking was a stand up, and then just

1406
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: telling you how he's a bad person, when the whole

1407
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: half the stand up is I'm a bad person. You know.

1408
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: It's like, my joke is I'm a bad person. I'm

1409
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: trying to get you on my side whole a little

1410
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 1: too far, that's my joke, that's my personality. And people

1411
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: are like, can you believe he went too far? It's like, no,

1412
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: I can believe it. It's not an accident. It's what

1413
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: he got paid to do. And then his job is

1414
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: to try to make that funny. You don't have to

1415
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: agree that it was funny, but let's not act like

1416
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: you caught him on a hot mic.

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01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: I agreed.

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Speaker 5: And also, I think for me, and it might just

1419
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 5: be my age, when I go to a comedy show,

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01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 5: for me personally, particularly live, it's an event for me,

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01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 5: you know, Like when I went to go see Janelle James,

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01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 5: it was an event for me. I was like, yes,

1423
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 5: let's go, let's see her live, Let's go have a

1424
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 5: good time type of thing. Because there's so much, so

1425
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 5: many other things you could be doing with your time.

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01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 5: So for somebody to actually take the time to leave

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01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 5: their house, particularly if you don't live places like New

1428
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 5: York where it's a comedy club on every other corner.

1429
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 5: It's an event to actually go to these comedy clubs

1430
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 5: because they.

1431
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 2: Normally aren't near people.

1432
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 5: You got to literally get up your car and driving

1433
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 5: all that shit like it is an event. So for me,

1434
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 5: comedy is still an event.

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 2: But that's just me.

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 5: And also for me, I am one of those people

1437
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 5: where even if a comed even if a comedian is

1438
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 5: okay to good to terrible, I will still be there

1439
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 5: and I will still engage and I will still laugh.

1440
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: So I am one of them people.

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01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 5: I'm kind of quote unquote a good audience member, if

1442
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 5: that makes sense. And most people, you know, they aren't

1443
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 5: like that. They'll start doing other shit, looking at the phone,

1444
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 5: not paying attention. And for me, even them doing bad

1445
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 5: in my mind is part of the comedy, But for

1446
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 5: a lot of people, it's not part of the comedy.

1447
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 5: For a lot of people. If you're not throwing out

1448
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 5: these yuk yuk yuk yok yok yok yok, the fuck.

1449
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: Am I doing here?

1450
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,680
Speaker 5: You're wasting my time, you know, And I as well

1451
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 5: say me and Roger view comedy different. We've been there

1452
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 5: place where people have bombed and we actually looked at

1453
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 5: each other and had a ball, you know, watching the

1454
01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 5: person bomb and you know. And we've been at clubs where,

1455
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes people have told jokes and they can

1456
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 5: almost like inside baseball type of jokes. Because me and

1457
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 5: Roger watch so much comedy, sometimes we have been literally

1458
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 5: the only table cracking up, laughing hard and almost like

1459
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 5: everybody will look at us, going, I guess we can

1460
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 5: laugh because they're laughing. And sometimes we've been at places

1461
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 5: where comedians will actually tell the joke directly to our

1462
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 5: table because they know, like, hey, I know that these

1463
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 5: people are gonna give me something of an energy. It

1464
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 5: ain't gonna be like I'm just standing up here just

1465
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 5: gazing at the walls and everybody. They don't consume comedy

1466
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 5: like that, they're not good audience members like that. Like

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01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 5: it varies per person, and a lot of people will

1468
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 5: not admit that they don't consider comedy and go into

1469
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 5: comedy shows live a good time either like that, Like

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01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 5: that also falls into it too.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I think we got one more voicemail. Let me

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Speaker 1: play this one. I don't know who's from.

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01:14:54,320 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 8: Kane Rod and Karen. I was calling because I we

1474
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 8: just got done listening to an episode where you were

1475
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 8: talking about children and how a lot of the parents

1476
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 8: end up catching COVID nineteen from your kids. They're spreading it.

1477
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 8: They're just as much danger as we are, and yet

1478
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 8: their vaccination rates.

1479
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 2: Are low and a lot lower.

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01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 8: My daughter have been sixed for weeks and we were

1481
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 8: trying to figure out what's going on with her. We've

1482
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 8: been told that it was a virus and all types

1483
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 8: of different things. She was in and out of the

1484
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 8: hospital's stomach cramps, having a really hard time admitting in

1485
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 8: the hospital a couple of times, and could not figure.

1486
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 2: Out what it was.

1487
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 8: It wasn't COVID, no vaccine that they had never seen before,

1488
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 8: and they just was like, not vaccine, virus and they

1489
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 8: just were like, well it's a virus, and you know, wow,

1490
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 8: she was in pain for so long. She woke up

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 8: with half her face rolling one morning and I decided

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01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 8: to take her back in this whole time for weeks.

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01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 8: This is just this morning, but this whole time, for

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01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 8: a week. She was diagnosed with The months months is

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01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 8: not something we typically see anymore in society because there's

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 8: vaccinations for it, and she's up to date on all

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01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 8: her vaccinations. So I'm like, how the fuck did my

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01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 8: baby get momps, Like, do people get that shit anymore?

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 8: All that to say, fucking vaccinate your kids because the

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01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:25,839
Speaker 8: people who look because one of my kids in the backroad, lord.

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01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 1: She's like yet vaccinated.

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 8: On the people who actually vaccinate their kids, their kids

1503
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 8: suffered because she can still catch this shit because you

1504
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 8: didn't vaccinate your fucking child. And now my baby walking

1505
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 8: around here with months and can't go to school. Okay,

1506
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 8: about to be off, Get kid off.

1507
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: Man. I feel for you, and I feel you.

1508
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 5: Unnecessary medical bills and shit people do not understand. And

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01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 5: what's so fucked up the parents that are like, I'm

1510
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 5: not getting my child back. Bit you were vaccinated, you

1511
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 5: were probably vaccinated, You were vaccinated, you know, And it's

1512
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 5: very frustrating because these kids don't have a choice in

1513
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 5: this and all you're doing is bringing back shit that

1514
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 5: we fucking have eradicated, shit that you actually don't want

1515
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 5: your child to have.

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, let's get to the final section. Let's

1517
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: get to these emails jazz U. The first one has

1518
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: no subject That is from Louis, who says, the little

1519
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: Penny Voice had me rolling is fucked up because that's

1520
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: how a cat this smells bad sounds. Now many of

1521
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: you won't know what that reference is too until you

1522
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: listen to it later if you haven't already. But it's

1523
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 1: the pregame episode. It's on your Spotify premium just the Tippers, Okay,

1524
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: y'all should have it is also, let me make sure

1525
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: I'm that I'm right when I say that, and then

1526
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: also it is on the premium feed for everybody else,

1527
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: so you know, make sure y'all check that out. Is

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01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: a story about this dude that me and Justin got

1529
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: on a tangent, which is our pregame really is, and

1530
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: we were talking about must and musty people and people

1531
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: that stink and our experiences trying not to be the

1532
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: musty person and dealing with musty people and stuff. I

1533
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: think the episode is called Musty, so check it out.

1534
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: Episode twenty six eighty three TikTok Therapy. This from Teresa,

1535
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,919
Speaker 1: who says, Hey, Rod and Karen, I'm not on TikTok

1536
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: or Instagram, and i barely use Twitter that much outside

1537
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: of work stuff, so I'm never up to date on

1538
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: any of the on goings over there. I've heard about

1539
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: the ones who were at the hospital talking about a

1540
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 1: newborn mother's but this new wave of therapists posting about

1541
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: that sessions and clients is wild also, sorry and advanced

1542
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 1: for a long email. Let me see. Ooh, it is

1543
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: very long. All right, let's see what we do here

1544
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: we go, y'all mentioned before social media, many of these

1545
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: therapists were posting their journals. But even the publisher cannot

1546
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: use any identifying information, and you won't get published if

1547
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 1: you do. Yeah, that's what I was saying. It's like

1548
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: the journals had standards, so you couldn't just like hop

1549
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: out of the fucking couch and then go, you know,

1550
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: go turn on a camera that faces towards you will

1551
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: start telling the world somebody's business. There were a bunch

1552
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: of fucking things between that.

1553
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: I can't speak regulations and ethics.

1554
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: I can't speak for psychology journals since that's not my speciality.

1555
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: But even in chemistry, when I'm working with human subjects,

1556
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,440
Speaker 1: I cannot have any identifying information, even if it's an anecdote.

1557
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: I do research with students to look into how they

1558
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: come to understand and learned chemistry. I have to go

1559
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: through through the protocol review by the Internal Review Board.

1560
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: In the documentation, they have to have a copy of everything,

1561
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: all the activities we plan on doing, all the questions

1562
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 1: I plan on asking them, a copy of the informed

1563
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: consent documentation, a timeline of when will meet and what

1564
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 1: we'll do, a description of when I will inform participants

1565
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: about informed consent, a data management plan, and an outline

1566
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: of what risk and benefits someone might have from participating.

1567
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 1: Even if it's a benign study, if I'm working with humans,

1568
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: I have to have all of this documentation approved and

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01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: reviewed before I can talk to anyone, and I will

1570
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: be held responsible if I deviate from that. If I

1571
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: get part way through and have to make a change,

1572
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: I have to resubmit to the RB and get their

1573
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: approval again. The two documents that I think are most

1574
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 1: important in the context of the INFORGM consent documentation because

1575
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 1: one of them therapists mentioned their clients have signed and

1576
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: the data management plan. In foreign consent isn't just a

1577
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: document that people sign once, not if you will be

1578
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: interacting with them multiple times. In some work, I have

1579
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: students come back to do an interview at a later

1580
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: date to see if they still remember the information or

1581
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 1: if the opinions have changed before before we start the

1582
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: second session, I have to remind them they can opt

1583
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: out of even they can opt out even if I

1584
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: had their consent in the first session. Inform consent means

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01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: that patients are reminded and given the opportunity to opt

1586
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: out at every opportunity. I also have to explaining fully

1587
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: the purpose of the work. We're doing study and participant

1588
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: or we're doing study and the participants are made given

1589
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 1: ample time to read the documentation, are given a copy

1590
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 1: of it to review it a later time, so they

1591
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: can opt out if they think about it more and

1592
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: want to it is. If it's truly informed consent, people

1593
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: can opt out of it at any time. Because this

1594
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: therapist mentioned INFEIGMN consent, I aren worried that they are

1595
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: aren't following through and reminding their clients. Like Rod said,

1596
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: if you're new in therapy for the first time, or

1597
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 1: even just anxious, they send you all this paperwork and

1598
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: you just signed. Maybe everyone is doing all of this

1599
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: every time before they post a TikTok. But I prefer

1600
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: systems of accountability and transparency not trust. Also, do these

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01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: inforign consent documents hold up legally part of the R

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01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: and B review processes than should the university or sponsored

1603
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: the research has covered legally. But even outside of these scenarios,

1604
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: I used to work during science outreach and we couldn't

1605
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: take pictures of kids faces without a release form by

1606
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: that guardian. Those forms had to be approved our school

1607
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: lawyers and we wouldn't couldn't change it in any way

1608
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,879
Speaker 1: because without certain pages they wouldn't hold up in court.

1609
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: Every time we needed to get those form signs, we

1610
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: would take the previous form in form of the lawyers

1611
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: that we wanted to use it and ask if they

1612
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 1: had an updated one because the required language might have

1613
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: changed for these TikTok therapists. Saving they saying they have

1614
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 1: a form, do they have a legal team check it?

1615
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: Is there any oversighting regulation for how these are explained

1616
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: or discussed? If not, those consent forms might not mean

1617
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: nothing if they weren't if they were to be sued. Listen, man,

1618
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: this is like I said.

1619
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 2: Just the part I didn't understand.

1620
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 5: I was like, I hear y'all what y'all saying, But

1621
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 5: I guarantee you for some of these people, they gonna

1622
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 5: be like, I didn't sign for this bullshit, and it

1623
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 5: would not be surprised they got phone calls on people

1624
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 5: going to fuck you talk about online.

1625
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: But this is also the problem with There's two things

1626
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: about this thing that I'm thinking. One, they're giving content online,

1627
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: we're watching the feedback online. Of course, the online content

1628
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: discussion bends more towards you should overshare. You should because

1629
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: it's all content. It's entertainment to me. The second thing

1630
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: is with these forms and stuff, a lot of times

1631
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,640
Speaker 1: people will just say anything. But when you have to

1632
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: go to court over it or something, some repercussion comes

1633
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: out of it, or some review board or somebody does

1634
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: get your job. It's a lot of people that that's

1635
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: how they find out. Actually that's not how that works.

1636
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: So you could be on the front cutting edge of

1637
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: fucking around and finding out. The second is data manager plan.

1638
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: If you are collecting data about people or from people,

1639
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: if you're data magic plan, you have to explain in

1640
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: detail how you will protect the person's information. You might

1641
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: give everyone a code name or a number to identify

1642
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: them in order to excuse the Protestants of its identity.

1643
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: You might have a larger pull of people by conducting

1644
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 1: experiment in more places that even maybe you've run the

1645
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: same experiment in the same place over and over for years.

1646
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: All of these will make it harder to single one

1647
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: person out. You also have to describe how you will

1648
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 1: keep the data, what type of computer, who has access

1649
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: to it. When you decide to share the data, how

1650
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: will it be shared? A publication with journals or video

1651
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: or YouTube, a block, what channel, what website? How will

1652
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: it be shared? All of this has to be outlined

1653
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 1: in the data management plan. Something these TikTok therapists are

1654
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: doing that's wile to me is sharing where they work.

1655
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: When I publish about a study that took place at

1656
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: a certain college and university, I can't even say what institution.

1657
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: I have to say something like a small liberal arts

1658
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 1: college in the Northeast. All of these are steps that

1659
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: you have to take to make sure that someone cannot

1660
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: with certainty trace back and find or identify participants. Also,

1661
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 1: that participant shouldn't feel like they've been singled out. They

1662
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: should be able to read your work, publication, video, and

1663
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: not that they shouldn't be able to read it and

1664
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: know it's about them. The last thing to mention is this,

1665
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: or at least in chemistry, I don't get to decide

1666
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: on whether I'm doing one is exempt from review of

1667
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: the RB board. If I'm doing an activity that I

1668
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 1: plan on sharing with the community, I have to submit

1669
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: an RB proposal in the RBS the size if it's

1670
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: exempt or not. Again, that's accountability and transparency. This kind

1671
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: of stuff really makes me worried that someone's gonna make

1672
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 1: a big a misstep, big enough to get sued. In

1673
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: my state, Pennsylvania and many others, licensing expires after two

1674
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: years for therapists. Part of the renewal process requires taking

1675
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: a course in ethics, is part of continual education. I

1676
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: would be happy if a new law required US this

1677
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 1: under this ethic section would be part of that, or

1678
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: if the American Counseling Association's Code of Ethics would be

1679
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: updated to cover this. Since that's typically the standard US

1680
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 1: that based therapists are held to. Then they need to

1681
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 1: implement their system to take away licenses to deny renewals.

1682
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 1: But since licensed to state by state, I'm not sure

1683
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: if there will be a good solution anytime soon without

1684
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: some huge lawsuit. Yeah, and it's also something else where,

1685
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: like you know, yeah, it's like they're ahead of the

1686
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 1: law on this, Like it's not that there shouldn't be standards,

1687
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: it's just they're ahead of anyone really developing true standards,

1688
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: universal standards, because even the people that claim to know,

1689
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: I've heard multiple people that claim to know what the

1690
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: ethics is around this have different opinions, so that and

1691
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: none of it seemed to be enforceable, like no one's

1692
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: like and if the and as you can tell from

1693
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: the discussion online, if the baseline for right and wrong

1694
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 1: is going to be can you take my license? That's

1695
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,120
Speaker 1: already a bad start. That's not an ethical start. That's

1696
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: how can I get away with this start? Personally? For me,

1697
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to therapy because I'm messed up and I'm

1698
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 1: trying to get better. If a part of my trauma

1699
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: deals was taken advantage of me for their own personal game,

1700
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: I guess people that can advantage me. I would never

1701
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: be okay with a therapist who was using me for

1702
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 1: content to post their social social media or for Internet points,

1703
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: even if they had the best of intentions. No, no way,

1704
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: y'all said in the podcast, I'm paying you for one

1705
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: hundred percent of your time and energy and that effort

1706
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: in that session. Don't share with that with anybody. That's

1707
01:26:58,280 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 1: wild to me.

1708
01:26:59,360 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1709
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: I think also that what's weird about that too, is

1710
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: like you can't separate that personal brand from their professional brand,

1711
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: so you really don't know, you know what I'm saying.

1712
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 1: It's like, are you sharing this to prove you're a

1713
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 1: great therapist and other people should come to you? Or

1714
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: are you sharing this for some other reason? Because when

1715
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 1: you start sharing stuff like I'm not taking men as clients,

1716
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,879
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a that's not like the selling

1717
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 1: point of what you do. If you were selling something,

1718
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: you'd be like, I'm taking women in clients exclusively. I'm

1719
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,839
Speaker 1: a business that's dedicated to empowering women. Blah bah blah.

1720
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 1: You would say that. But if you're the main two

1721
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: things people know about you is you don't take white

1722
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: people and you don't take men, that's not I don't

1723
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 1: I mean, personally, that seemed like a bad business strategy.

1724
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's like us making an ad for the

1725
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: game theory and it's about all the people we don't

1726
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: want to watch the show, Like what does that mean? Right?

1727
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: All right, that's it. I took up enough of your

1728
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: time much less. Stay safe and healthy out there, GAP.

1729
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dannika says all Rod. I'm a listener and

1730
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: i'm i saw a licensed social worker, but I do

1731
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: not practice. I'm submitting some thoughts for an upcoming feedback,

1732
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: shall I think the therapists we're seeing on social media

1733
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 1: already in ethical violation through MFTs sids have their own

1734
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: although MFTs and sidd's have their own professional body, it's

1735
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: probably saying something similar though. I just thought you should

1736
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 1: know that the NASW, the Professional Society of Social Workers,

1737
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: basically does have a social media policy. I've shared it

1738
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: below just in case you wanted to share it your listeners.

1739
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a lot of words. All right, here

1740
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: we go, Standard two point one. Oh man, I just

1741
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: want you all to know, as fans, we love y'all,

1742
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: specifically me, because I'm the one gotta read all this shit, understand.

1743
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 1: I just hope y'all appreciate it. That's all Standard two

1744
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 1: point one oh Social media policies and foreign clients regarding

1745
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: their social workers. Professional use of social networking sites, email, text,

1746
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 1: message in electronics, arch in your smartphone applications, blogs, business

1747
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: review sites and other forms of electronic communication. A carefully

1748
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: constructive social media policy that social workers share with clients

1749
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:12,919
Speaker 1: can enhance protection of private information and maintain clear boundaries.

1750
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: The social media policy should be reviewed with clients, but

1751
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 1: during the initial interview in the social worker client relationship

1752
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: and revisit update is needed. Yeah, you know, they not

1753
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:24,679
Speaker 1: doing all that, but the other.

1754
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, I said, right, and that makes sense, Like, yeah,

1755
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 5: if you're gonna do this, this is probably something you

1756
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,720
Speaker 5: probtly have to consistently tell them. You probably need to

1757
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 5: do this every session to be sure that it's okay.

1758
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 5: It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. It's like, yeah, they

1759
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 5: always like just listen to what y'all doing. I was like,

1760
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 5: I don't think this is. None of this shit works, y'all.

1761
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: And it's very shady because they'll they'll they'll treat their

1762
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: their social media accounts like their private and personal when

1763
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 1: they need to and professional and other instances. And I

1764
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: think that's such bullshit, you know, like like when they

1765
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: whenever they're dispensing information, it's under their professional da da

1766
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: da da, But whenever they playing victim, it turns into

1767
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: it's a personal thing with me or whenever it's you know,

1768
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: will you want to say something negative about a type

1769
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 1: of client or something that's your professional opinion, people say

1770
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 1: anything back to you. They taking it personally like it's

1771
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 1: just very weird because it's your name on there, Like

1772
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: you're not doing it from the such and such practice.

1773
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 1: You're doing the tweets with your face and all that shit.

1774
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: Standard two point one five Organizing the Advocacy. When using

1775
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 1: technology to organize communities and advocate, social workers shall take

1776
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,560
Speaker 1: reasonable steps to ensure that the information shared using technology

1777
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 1: technological tools is honest, accurate, and respectful interpretation social media

1778
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: social workers who are using thigh provoking language and stories

1779
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: to attract a tension and motivate people to action should

1780
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: ensure that content or that communication is honest, accurate, respectful,

1781
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: and it's neither exploitative of clients nor sensationalistic. And I'm

1782
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: telling you that last line, that last line kin regards Daniga. Yeah,

1783
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna have to be a reckoning

1784
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: at some point. And I don't wish nothing ill on

1785
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: these people. I just think it's very it's very dishonest,

1786
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: and it's very manipulative. The way they put this shit

1787
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: out and then play the victim. I just think that's

1788
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 1: the part that's whack TikTok therapy feedback. This is for

1789
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: my girl, Marissa Riss. For my New Year's resolution, I

1790
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 1: wanted to add two new purely fun hobbies to my

1791
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 1: life to fight back against becoming a corporate workaholic. One

1792
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: I was able to start in January and the other

1793
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: planning to start in May. I never thought the two

1794
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: interested intersect until now. Pole dancing and stand up sounds

1795
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 1: like a fucking dream. I already doesn't hit the pole,

1796
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 1: so let me get down my stand up fundamentals and baby,

1797
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be, but.

1798
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't have enough course strength.

1799
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 5: Me and one of my friends ended up going into

1800
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 5: like one of the like the like the six shop,

1801
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 5: but they sell stuff and they had a pole and

1802
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,839
Speaker 5: a dude was like, hey, you can do pole dance, panallela,

1803
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 5: look theod saut sir.

1804
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't.

1805
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 5: I don't have the core strength for pole dancing, but

1806
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,799
Speaker 5: you let me get my core strength up. It actually

1807
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 5: looks like it would be a lot of fun. Nothing professional,

1808
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 5: nothing like that, But it looked like it would actually

1809
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 5: be a like a lot of fun to actually go to,

1810
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 5: like a professional pole dancing class would actually go through,

1811
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 5: like you know, your basic steps and the like. It

1812
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 5: would actually be a hell of a workout. Like I

1813
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 5: wouldn't mind actually doing you know, something like that, not

1814
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 5: your funny just for the joy of it.

1815
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: Uh, she says, already done, hit the post, so let

1816
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: me get down my stand up fundamentals and baby, I'm

1817
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: gonna be serving ass and lash all at the same time.

1818
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: Come on, come all through.

1819
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 5: I thought about taking one of the comedy courses, and

1820
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 5: I know a lot of community, but that's some whoy

1821
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 5: she owed money. But somebody like me, I think I

1822
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 5: could do something like that, like go through where you

1823
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 5: take the comedy course and then you know, you go

1824
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 5: through and they take you know, they show you the

1825
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 5: fundamentals and you go like a graduation and you do

1826
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 5: your hot minute and a half like I could see

1827
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 5: myself doing something like that.

1828
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: And yes, pole is hard as fucking I love it.

1829
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 1: Karen highly recommend you try. You are if you're looking

1830
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,759
Speaker 1: for something fun, best workout ever and has done wonders

1831
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: to be even more appreciative of my body. And yes,

1832
01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 1: the community is super supportive. I you're gonna see boyfriends, friends, friends,

1833
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: mamas and daddy's and everybody else supporting polars. My mama said,

1834
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: once I started performing, she'll be there, but with sunglasses

1835
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: on so no one sees her face. I said, she

1836
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: better get on her Chris Jenner, but Rod, you did

1837
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:14,680
Speaker 1: not need to drag me when you said that. Supporters

1838
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 1: also look like when you said the supporters also looked

1839
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 1: like they were gonna poll and they were giving cleavage.

1840
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: I immediately thought about the show I'm going to on

1841
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 1: Sunday and how I have a share low cut broad

1842
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 1: playing in my outfit. I'ma still I'm gonna still have

1843
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 1: my titties out, but you don't need to say the

1844
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: choet part out loud. Girl. We can see we got as.

1845
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Y'all.

1846
01:33:38,439 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna get these titties, all right, you get.

1847
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 2: This level, You're getting.

1848
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 1: The whole bitch. I'm serving titties today, like we all

1849
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: see the Instagram says okay, I'm I'm on there. I'm supportive.

1850
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, like, if you're making it to my feed

1851
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: with the i G models you probably out here thought,

1852
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: and that's that's and it goes for all of you,

1853
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 1: of all genders. If you are friend and I see

1854
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 1: your picture in the in my feed, because my algorithm

1855
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 1: is the leather like, oh, I like my algorithm is

1856
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: very just sex positive. For lack of a better it

1857
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: is for sex positive. To put a spin on it,

1858
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: let's say that. Uh, and so it's just if it's

1859
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 1: just like listen, it's Buffy the body and and it's

1860
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: Reggie playing tennis, and it's uh Marissa with the low

1861
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 1: cut top. I'm liking them all because I'm like, you

1862
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: earned it. Okay, you you beat out by Ja Yogi today. Okay,

1863
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 1: you doing it today?

1864
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 2: You beat the strip club Instagram accouncil that I follow.

1865
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: You and get just like that, right. I still want

1866
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 1: to find out how these two things come together for

1867
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 1: a show. But glad you had fun care Maybe Poland

1868
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: is part of the Renaissance training program.

1869
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:47,559
Speaker 5: Lo l.

1870
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: Beyonce HUDs kisses, You're always poland sometimes funny extra friend Reese, thank.

1871
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 2: You, Marissa. They talking about muffed the pole. I'm about

1872
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 2: to get on the pole. I don't know if that's

1873
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 2: good to bad? Baby.

1874
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 1: All right, this is another long one. This is from

1875
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: our girl Kadian or Katrina. I'm sorry, it's from our girl, Katrina,

1876
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 1: She says, Hi riding, Karen. I hope you're both well.

1877
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 1: Time has really been beating me down the last few weeks,

1878
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 1: so I keep kept forgetting to leave feedback. You guys

1879
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 1: always entertain me, whether it's y'all catching up because of

1880
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 1: Rod being the NYC or a regularst show, or when

1881
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 1: you have guests, speaking of which I know this is

1882
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 1: mad late, but I still want to write in about

1883
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: a few things about you two and BOSSI discussed during

1884
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the selective outrage by Chris Roy. Since it's so late,

1885
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 1: I'll skip the general reactions to stick to a few

1886
01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: topics you and BOSSI brought up, and then she said

1887
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: edit it to add on. Fine, I'm fine if you

1888
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 1: can't read this on the air, dude of it being

1889
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 1: too long, It's very long, but I'm gonna try. Okay,

1890
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: Time Lane for bro processing trauma, she says, I love

1891
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: your nuance discussion about the last part of Chris is

1892
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 1: Special when he talked about being assaulted by Will. I too,

1893
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,640
Speaker 1: felt a little disappointed that the material he created for

1894
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 1: it was rather shallow, especially the last joke about not

1895
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: fighting in front of white people. But the more I

1896
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: started to think about it. I kind of felt fucked

1897
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 1: up about my view. I'm saying this personally, but not

1898
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: about child or anyone else who thought that audiences are

1899
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 1: title to be disappointed to wish for better. I started

1900
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: to think, does this man owe us better jokes for

1901
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 1: something he experienced? But tens of million of the people

1902
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: had opinions on does he owe it to me to

1903
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: have processes trauma and nuanced ways to turn it into

1904
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,720
Speaker 1: specifically creative output. Though it was not physical violence in

1905
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: front of millions, I have experienced being dragged on tumblrver

1906
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: years ago by one person, followed by a bunch of supporters,

1907
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: and I promised I didn't say anything foul fucked up.

1908
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: It did a number on me psychologically and physically, and

1909
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: I was not in therapy during that period. Incidentally, I

1910
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 1: started listening to black out Tips a few weeks later. Well,

1911
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 1: here's let me say this. Though I don't want hopefully,

1912
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Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, just you're giving me an opportunity to

1913
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 1: clear it up. I'm not saying I'm disappointed and special.

1914
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying it wasn't good. I think I

1915
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: said specifically I thought it was good, I think, and

1916
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: maybe it's because of the industry I'm in now, and

1917
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 1: the fact that people have to be critical of my

1918
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: work for me to reach the highest level of my work.

1919
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: It can't be like they can't be like, hey, well,

1920
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 1: maybe you're not ready to make those jokes. They have

1921
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: to come in and be like, here's where you can

1922
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: make it better. Right, and looking at specifically just what

1923
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: he did as a comedian, and this ain't I'm not

1924
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 1: better than Chris right, just sain't no shade I'm saying.

1925
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: I felt like it was a good special that could

1926
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,719
Speaker 1: have been a great special, and he's capable of another

1927
01:37:34,760 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 1: great special in my opinion. I know people will disagree

1928
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: with that, especially those of y'all that never thought he

1929
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: had a great special. But you know, I don't agree

1930
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 1: with y'all. But if there's a great special in there

1931
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: that only he can tell is what I'm saying. And

1932
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 1: he can only tell that when he's ready to tell that,

1933
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 1: So I don't expect him to push back this special.

1934
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: I just feel like the special when he's truly ready,

1935
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: if he ever is, that's the one I'm really looking

1936
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:02,559
Speaker 1: for it too, because, like I said, I want to

1937
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: know funny, the funny. What he can get out of comedy.

1938
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 1: If he wants to charge himself in this way, he

1939
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: may not, but what can you get out of comedy?

1940
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 1: That's about how you felt during that night for real,

1941
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: and go through the moments like tell us, you know,

1942
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: like I said, when they there's jokes that could be

1943
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 1: so funny about can you call the police on a

1944
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: black man who's about to win an oscar? And how

1945
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,640
Speaker 1: fucked up it is to ask you to be the

1946
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: one to make the decision and it's and how fucked

1947
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 1: up it is, you know, for it to be on

1948
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 1: the night of black dude that's producing the oscars for

1949
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: the first time, like the after party, how it affected relationship?

1950
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: What did his family say to him about it? You

1951
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, guys, I'm this is not this

1952
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 1: is not a mean place. I'm not one of these

1953
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: Chris Rock hating niggas. And I'm not saying he should

1954
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: have been able to do that last night. I'm saying

1955
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: if you ask me how I feel about the special,

1956
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm like it was good and at the end of

1957
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 1: the day, I'm not gonna put it above his oldest shit.

1958
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 1: You know, I think those are really great, but I

1959
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 1: thought it was good. I was higher on it than

1960
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people that work in comedy. But I

1961
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:20,080
Speaker 1: was like, a great special is just not in the

1962
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:20,920
Speaker 1: cards right now.

1963
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 8: You know.

1964
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: He seemed keyed up. He seemed very emotional at the end,

1965
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 1: and not just performance like he was still mad about

1966
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: it and it's gonna be a while, and he get

1967
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 1: he should be able to take as long as he

1968
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 1: wants to. And if ever, he don't owe us shit.

1969
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 1: He never has to make those jokes, He never has

1970
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 1: to say anything I just said. But if you're asking

1971
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 1: me my opinion as a viewer, that's what I think

1972
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 1: would have made that special iconic. Is him really living

1973
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,719
Speaker 1: in that shit for like twenty thirty minutes and giving

1974
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: us like nope for lack of a better turn to

1975
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: blow by blow of like, this is what it was

1976
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 1: like to be Chris Rock that night, And this is

1977
01:39:56,880 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: how my mind processed it, you know, I said. I

1978
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: started to think, Oh wait, da da da da, she said.

1979
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: I was so beset with anxiety for weeks. The incident

1980
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 1: was like an infestation of bed bugs in my mind

1981
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,440
Speaker 1: that I couldn't fumigate. I eventually got on an ssri

1982
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 1: ed tidepressant because I was literally still data gathering on

1983
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 1: the site for my PhD, so I couldn't opt out

1984
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: a log off my whole dissertation depending on analyzing fandom posts. Anyway,

1985
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: my point is that a year later I tried to

1986
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 1: present a paper related to my experience at a conference,

1987
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 1: and I was it was not good. I had not

1988
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: processed the shit enough to turn it into anything useful filling.

1989
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, when I was writing up my dissertation,

1990
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: I was able to discuss personally and intellectually more on that.

1991
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 1: In the last section of the email, this email guy

1992
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 1: got a glossary with you. She's like, listen, y'all gonna

1993
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,839
Speaker 1: get these words. It took five damn years back to therapy,

1994
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:53,759
Speaker 1: reading and willingness to face the trauma and learn something

1995
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 1: about myself from it. Only recently, two weeks ago did

1996
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 1: I connect the anxiety spiral I experience fifteen the childhood

1997
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: trauma over my Jamaican accent in elementary school. I was

1998
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 1: that seven year old girl all over again again, a

1999
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: brick wall at recess, against the brickwall of recess, being

2000
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 1: called Jamaican body scratcher, Booty scratch. I'm sorry, booty scratching

2001
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 1: by my peers. This is not the same as Chris.

2002
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: But perhaps what we saw in that special was just

2003
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: the initial trump processing of his trauma, his body language,

2004
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: the rise and tension in his body, the anger with

2005
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: all things I could feel through the screen. I recognize

2006
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,480
Speaker 1: it because I've been there. Yeah, And I mean it's

2007
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: obviously subjective, but I've never seen Chris rock that mad.

2008
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: Like I've seen him do anger on stage, but it

2009
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: didn't feel like that, Like that shit felt he was mad,

2010
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't just I'm hyping up my emotion to

2011
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 1: deliver the punchline. It didn't matter if Maybe because it

2012
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: was live and it was the first time most of

2013
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: us were seeing it, it just felt extra and once

2014
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 1: again not a judgment of that, you know what I'm saying, Like,

2015
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: who knows how any of us will feel in those situation,

2016
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: you know. But she said his body lane that I

2017
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 1: could feel it through this kind of recognize it because

2018
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 1: I've been there. If he ever revisits March twenty second

2019
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 1: in the future, we may get a sharper take on it.

2020
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 1: To be perfectly honest, I reread the chapter in my

2021
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 1: dissertation about what happened and I think I could go

2022
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 1: deeper with it, but that's how time and processing work.

2023
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: And to be real, I'm low key having anxiety tacks

2024
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: i write this email, but I'm fine. I need to

2025
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: write this. Moving on often in and out of victimhood.

2026
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: The other part of Chris rock special I did want

2027
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 1: to address was his reluctance to identify as a victim.

2028
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:33,880
Speaker 1: The parallels with the earlier part of the special when

2029
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 1: he talked about people being victims to get attention on

2030
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: social media, so he had already set up victimhood as

2031
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 1: an identity tied to manipulation. It got me thinking that

2032
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: circumstances under which people identify and disiventify with victim label,

2033
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 1: especially on social media, this is a simplified distinction. I

2034
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 1: came up with victim identity legitimate victims who have been

2035
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 1: wrong to violated in some identifiable way, where the power

2036
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 1: of namics are clear, validate, validates the experience. Also under

2037
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 1: that being the victim allows a person to escape all

2038
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: the most accountability for that part of the situation, or

2039
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 1: if they might identify as victim, if being a victim

2040
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: allows person to access power via manipulation or sympathy or

2041
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: empathy usually allowed legit usually that is allowed to quote

2042
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: unquote legitimate victims. Right, then she says victim disidentification when

2043
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 1: the victim label signifies weakness, vulnerability, penetrability, especially if it

2044
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 1: clashes with social perceptions of masculinity e g. Mail suffers

2045
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 1: a sexual assault, and narrow definitions of strength, especially though

2046
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: when strength is about race, gender, sexuality, class, or any

2047
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 1: combination of those. And the other one was when the

2048
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: victim label places a person in danger. This is unrefined,

2049
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: but that's the gest I think. What's interesting is that

2050
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 1: Chris kind of did identify as a victim when he

2051
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: pointed out the power dynamics height build reputation between him

2052
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,000
Speaker 1: at Will. He based to call it Will a bully.

2053
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: I know that's what I'm saying. It's a little not

2054
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 1: so I don't want to say dishonest, but denial. It

2055
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 1: feels a little bit like he's just in denial. Social

2056
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:02,160
Speaker 1: media and communities affection. Lastly, I'm so sorry you Rod

2057
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: brought up the fact that people on social media create

2058
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: community out of shared sense of hatred. Absolutely. I expanded

2059
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 1: on this point in my dissertation chapter that focused on

2060
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 1: fan antagonisms and interracial conflicts. Communities of dissatisfaction are mirrors

2061
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: or communities of affection or what we typically call fandoms.

2062
01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: Instead of forming a share bonding over the object of

2063
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: the affection game, TV show, celebrity, etc. They developed share

2064
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 1: bonds from a negative space. In order to maintain the

2065
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 1: bonds of the group, they have to keep hating because

2066
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 1: this is the basis of the group's socialization. Getting out

2067
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 1: of that can be difficult because there's emotional attachment there.

2068
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: I know you have mentioned Sarah Schulsman's book, Schuldven's book

2069
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: Conflict Is Not Abuse and the Flying Monkeys thing on

2070
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 1: social media only just started that book. Yes, this what

2071
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 1: the fuck I'm talking about. So I had created the

2072
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: different categories when writing about the different players connected to

2073
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: the communities of disaffection. I used a high school football

2074
01:44:55,080 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: game based analogy flaming baton toiler. This is the leader

2075
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: of disaffection, the one who sources the material, the hot

2076
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: takes shit, posting reactions and come smell this aggregator. Aggregator,

2077
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 1: they have to reach higher and higher heights with their

2078
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:13,880
Speaker 1: baton toiling maneuvers to impress and guard the attention from

2079
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: the group, keep them invested and keep their status as leader.

2080
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 1: Without the cheerleaders of the groups, they have nothing. The

2081
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 1: next group cheerleaders everybody else in the disaffected community aka

2082
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: the flying monkeys. The cheerleader support the leader through dissemination

2083
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 1: and negative commentary, and they don't want it to start anything,

2084
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: but will absolutely add to the thread if the leader starts.

2085
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 1: It adds to the group coherence to multiply opportunities for

2086
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,839
Speaker 1: the group to bond. Yeah. And I think if you've

2087
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 1: become popular on social media to summer level, because I've

2088
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: experienced this, there are people who want to be your

2089
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 1: flying monkeys, and they really like they like They want

2090
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 1: to show they like you, and their way of showing

2091
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: they like you is like if I have a problem

2092
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: with someone or something, they're willing to go harass that

2093
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,519
Speaker 1: person on my behalf. I've just never wanted that. I

2094
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: know people who have assumed I would want that. I

2095
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: know people who have and I think mostly because if

2096
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: they were in my situation, they would abuse that type

2097
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 1: of thing and have people doing that shit. But they

2098
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 1: react to me like I would be the kind of

2099
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 1: person that do that, but I'm not. I don't want it.

2100
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 1: I really genuinely it's not geeming that I don't want it.

2101
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 1: It it skeeves me out.

2102
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 2: I don't like that personality, right.

2103
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't need the friend with me. That's like

2104
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 1: I'll punch a nigga in the face for any like.

2105
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, no, I don't. I don't

2106
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: carry that energy. You don't got to carry it on

2107
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:39,759
Speaker 1: my behalf.

2108
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 8: You know.

2109
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to jump nobody. I won't make no

2110
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,960
Speaker 1: like And if I have a problem with somebody, I'm

2111
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 1: perfectly fine dealing with it myself. I don't need this.

2112
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 1: Ain't a loyalty challenge. Well I gotta punch them and

2113
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 1: then look at you like you're gonna punch them like

2114
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm punching them because I don't want to punch them

2115
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,759
Speaker 1: and ain't got shit to do with you. Audience, understand.

2116
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 1: These are the people who are happy to watch Game

2117
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 1: of Fold from these sidelines. They may even like posts

2118
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 1: and tweets, but will not retweet a comment. They love

2119
01:47:06,479 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 1: a mess and sometimes seek it out, but will not

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Speaker 1: be seen as part of the cheerleaders. They could easily

2121
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: disinvest in some real consequences pop up, right Yeah, and

2122
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 1: a lot of them motherfuckers have changed on you too.

2123
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 2: Yep, at the drop of a hat.

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01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like those are the ones I'll be talking about

2125
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: when I'm like, y'all on this therapist dick right now.

2126
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:25,599
Speaker 1: But she's one TikTok from everybody being like, man.

2127
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 2: Fuck her, one post, one word, right.

2128
01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Because that first therapist, everybody was on her back, had

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01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 1: her back, and then she got fired and she started

2130
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 1: posting like gofund me is and talking about she was

2131
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 1: saving us, and she was, you know, like she was

2132
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: the hero in this situation, a martyr of some type.

2133
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,200
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of people that I had

2134
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 1: seen egging her own that suddenly was like, man, I'm

2135
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: giving you no money. You look stupid. You lost your job.

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01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 2: Ha ha.

2137
01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, I'm sorry they have no investment, right, Okay,

2138
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That was both long and sort of explanation

2139
01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 1: in someplace and play someplace. Thanks for reading and for

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01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 1: being who you are. Love y'all, Katrina, love your back, Katrina,

2141
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 1: And I read the whole thing because you wrote. You

2142
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: took the time to write the whole thing, and we

2143
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 1: appreciate you, you know, we do.

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01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 1: And I think Katrina is one of the people that

2146
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 1: I saw her kind of tweeting about this, and I

2147
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 1: actually DMed her and we had like a discussion in

2148
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 1: the DMS because I don't want to talk to people

2149
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 1: about on the timeline in front of everybody. It's just ridiculous,

2150
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: but I was, but I legitimately just wanted to pick

2151
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 1: her brain. Like it wasn't like a you need to

2152
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 1: feel this wall? Why you say that? It was like

2153
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: a you know, like so what do you think about it?

2154
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: And you know, because I'm like maybe I'm missing a perspective.

2155
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 1: It can happen. You know, it can happen, But like

2156
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 1: some of this stuff in the way it is couch like.

2157
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:50,479
Speaker 1: Even even the way that therapist talked about I'm doing

2158
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: emotional labor for my male clients, it just felt weird

2159
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: because like you're actually being compensated for whatever this leg

2160
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: this is, like you know what I'm saying, Like you

2161
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: literally doing a job that requires you to labor through

2162
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 1: people's emotions. It's it's just feel like it just don't

2163
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: make sense, like it to some.

2164
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 2: Expence, they're paying you to be here. I don't understand.

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01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 2: It's like doing it for free and you're not doing

2166
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 2: it for charity.

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01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 1: That's what it is. That's what I've been trying to

2168
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: put my finger on this the whole time. It's like,

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01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: you're using your personal relationship and personal life complaint in

2170
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: your professional life, and it is not congruent because it

2171
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 1: is a if you want me to respect it as

2172
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: a profession, it is a profession, you know what I'm saying.

2173
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 1: It would be like an actor saying, yeah, I you know,

2174
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 1: I worked on the set of this movie and they

2175
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: made me kiss Leonardo DiCaprio and you're like, what, you

2176
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 1: took the role of Leonardo DiCaprio's love interest in Titanic.

2177
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 1: You didn't think you want to kiss them? Well, it's

2178
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: just it's my body, it's my right, and I just

2179
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 1: feel like they made me do sexual labor kissing Leonardo Capitro.

2180
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 1: And it's like some people will eat it up because

2181
01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 1: of the the it's the nature of the wording of

2182
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:10,160
Speaker 1: the personal victimhood. They'd be like, yeah, that was the

2183
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 1: they violated your boundaries, sis, But a lot of us

2184
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: will be like, dog, that's literally what the job is. Like, yes,

2185
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,839
Speaker 1: they will go. You will go like you can't derail

2186
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: a whole movie because you decided to take it personal.

2187
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: That the role of this character as a love interest

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01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 1: would eventually kiss this man. That's kind that's kind of

2189
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: the difference I think for for me. So John says

2190
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 1: the morning, Ron and Karen, I think you kneled it

2191
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 1: about the oscars. People at the Academy are absolutely obsessed

2192
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 1: with narratives, whether it's a legend of the craft finally

2193
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:44,960
Speaker 1: getting acknowledged, or sometimes a new up and comer surprising anyone,

2194
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: or someone coming back after years away from the industry.

2195
01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:50,839
Speaker 1: Their votes are based on who they like, which narrative

2196
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:53,040
Speaker 1: is the most exciting for them any given moment. I

2197
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 1: still haven't seen Wakinda forever. Yes, I know it makes

2198
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 1: me racist, that's right, you are right. But I thought

2199
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 1: Stephanie Shue's performance was It's a oh much better than

2200
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee's and everything everywhere all at once. Though Jamie

2201
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 1: Lee's was good, my guess is that the legend who

2202
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: finally gets her due narrative was the real winner. Hopefully

2203
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: Miss Bassett will give awarded for the same some day. Yeah,

2204
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 1: it's so weird because people always say that they go, oh,

2205
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,200
Speaker 1: they should have won x Mini years ago. It's like, well,

2206
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:24,680
Speaker 1: that definitely set up the narrative. You know what I'm saying.

2207
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 1: It's like Denzel losing for Malcolm X kind of sets

2208
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:30,000
Speaker 1: up the training day narrative, Like, next time he gets

2209
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 1: one of these type of movies, we can't let him

2210
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 1: lose because we already done did them wrong. And while

2211
01:51:35,040 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 1: you're giving it to him, someone's getting done wrong that year.

2212
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, if you believe in that shit, I think

2213
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: I have the perfect American solution for school shootings. Retrofit

2214
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 1: every school so the classrooms are built over a pool,

2215
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 1: a battery asset with a bunch of trap doors on

2216
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: the floor. When an active shooter situation happens, a teacher

2217
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 1: can use a remote control to drop the shooter into

2218
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 1: the asseid, hopefully picking the right trap door. Yeah that's smart,

2219
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 1: you know. And no kid will ever fall in, No

2220
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:04,679
Speaker 1: child will ever get a hold of the switch, No,

2221
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,759
Speaker 1: no one, no ask no teacher will ever go crazy.

2222
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,799
Speaker 1: And just I mean, I wouldn't do anything that empowered

2223
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: teachers to have weapons in school, because have you all

2224
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 1: met y'all's kids, right, like some of these motherfuckers, it

2225
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: won't be a school shooting, It just be that kid shooting.

2226
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 1: If teachers have guns, little disrespectful power, look, disrespectful motherfucking Now,

2227
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:31,600
Speaker 1: who's next? Two plus two? Is what? Say what? Mother? Anyway,

2228
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 1: it'll be a problem. Sure, that's a significant chance they

2229
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: might get it wrong and as a child will end

2230
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: up dying excruciating death. But at least we won't hurt

2231
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: the feelings of gun on US America.

2232
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 2: Fuck.

2233
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when you start that discussion, I immediately saying

2234
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 1: the ghetto to my car stereo. Just curious, what is

2235
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 1: that clip? Where's that clip from? It's a song? Right?

2236
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, you're talking. He's talking about the ghetto,

2237
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:05,320
Speaker 1: the ghetto leagues from Real Housewives of Atlanta. I believe, yes, Karen,

2238
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,880
Speaker 1: right there, Karen, when you said Major League Baseball was

2239
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 1: probably a sponsor of the Justice smo Lette documentary, I

2240
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 1: almost feel my coffee hilarious.

2241
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.

2242
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:22,240
Speaker 1: At lastly, this is probably more of a pregame show,

2243
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 1: But I really hope nothing terrible happens to Leon and

2244
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 1: Wanda on Snowfall? Can we talk about how to wind up?

2245
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:31,480
Speaker 1: How gorgeous Wander looks in these African prints? Oh yeah,

2246
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,639
Speaker 1: cheers and states safe. Yeah. Man, it's so funny, it's

2247
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 1: so funny, and it's This happens to so many black

2248
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: actors that you play a crackhead, and it's like, motherfuckers,

2249
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 1: really thank you that crackhead.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:48,679
Speaker 1: I don't know why because it don't work for every

2252
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 1: other role. Like if a black person play a doctor

2253
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 1: on the TV show We Not, motherfuckers don't come up

2254
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,479
Speaker 1: to you like, hey man, I'm having heart palpitations. I

2255
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 1: know you were on grains Anatomy. But if a black

2256
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 1: person cockhead, motherfucker's really like, that's a crackhead. And then

2257
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,600
Speaker 1: you see that they're an actor playing a part, and

2258
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 1: you see them on Instagram or in a magazine cover something,

2259
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your penis gets hard and it's like, god, damn,

2260
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: I want to fuck that crackhead. It's like, no nigga

2261
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 1: that that fuckable actor was playing in Crackhead. They was

2262
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 1: always bad. And I think the person, the actress who

2263
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: plays Wander from Snowfall, was a victim of being too

2264
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:27,759
Speaker 1: good at playing Wander from Snowfall because every I've seen

2265
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: so many people past showing them. They were showing the picture.

2266
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 1: I'll pull it up, I pull it up right now.

2267
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 1: They were showing up showing pictures of Wander from her

2268
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 1: name is Gail Bean. They were showing pictures of Gail

2269
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 1: Bean as Wanda next to pictures of Gail Being as

2270
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 1: Gail Being on her Instagram and being like, look at this.

2271
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, she didn't get off crack a right,

2272
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 1: she was as bad. She was bad as fuck the

2273
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 1: whole time. Anyway, It's just it's and it's only crackheads,

2274
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 1: isn't it. I don't know that there's any other role

2275
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 1: make well, obviously every man that plays an abusive man,

2276
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, we know how that goes. But yeah, so

2277
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: this is you can see a picture right here, right

2278
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 1: mm hmm, Like that's her with the makeup on and everything.

2279
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how big it is on your screen.

2280
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 1: And then let's go yeah she I mean, she was

2281
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: fine the whole time on the show and all this stuff,

2282
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 1: but she played a crackhead and all of a sudden

2283
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 1: we was having issues and then this is her. This

2284
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 1: is her and the crackhead makeup, and of course you

2285
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 1: know she looks terrible because she's supposed.

2286
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 2: To, right, that's makeup.

2287
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So like this whole like thing they were going

2288
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:47,720
Speaker 1: through is like look at this. I was like, what

2289
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: why did you assume that was some groundbreaking shit? Man,

2290
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 1: I would fuck wander from Snowfall like, yes, of course, nigga.

2291
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 1: Plus she wasn't a crackhead the whole time on the show,

2292
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: just a period of time when she was still just

2293
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: wand to his girlfriend and she looked good. Then it's

2294
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:10,600
Speaker 1: people crazy, man, But yeah she she of course looks great.

2295
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Africa looks great on her. And I also love how

2296
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 1: like black people in all these TV shows and movies,

2297
01:56:17,720 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: it's like, just go to Africa. It'll work out just

2298
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 1: what part of Africa Africa show up to get off

2299
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 1: the plane's talk to the first black person you say

2300
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 1: and say, show me my show me my house, and

2301
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,800
Speaker 1: they go, oh, should you ride from America? Yeah, we

2302
01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 1: got you set up here on the third third Street

2303
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 1: like that.

2304
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 8: You know Africa guys.

2305
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: Like Belly, it is Africa, all right, y'all. That's it.

2306
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: It got off to a late start, finishing kind of late.

2307
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 1: Karen has chicken to eat. Don't forget to send me

2308
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 1: the titles, Karen, I know, I know how you get

2309
01:56:54,480 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: about your chicken chicken, chicken, chicken. Uh, we'll be back,

2310
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 1: so we may do another show or two this week possibly,

2311
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a break for a little bit

2312
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,480
Speaker 1: because Karen's gonna be up here and stuff, and so

2313
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 1: y'all won't see We won't be recording at that point

2314
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 1: in time, you know. So we'll see y'all when we

2315
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: see y'all, and time permitting. Until then, I love you.