WEBVTT - RHOBH Exclusive: Annemarie’s Final Word 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, rain Drops.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody. Welcome to Reality with the King.

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<v Speaker 2>I have talked about this woman recently on my podcast

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<v Speaker 2>doing the reunion of Real House spotsor Billy Hills, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy she said yes when I reach out

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<v Speaker 2>to her, like, girl, I want to talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I'm not al thot some some you

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<v Speaker 2>know as I'm watching the show, so please give it

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<v Speaker 2>up with them, beautiful ten across the board.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitch Aunt Marie Wiley for.

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<v Speaker 3>Having me, Carlos excited to be here. Thank you. Okay, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>first I have to say, Anna Marie, Anna Marie, Anna Marie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why you're here. We're gonna clarify something. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>Anna Marie, Anna Marie not an eight point five.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So let's go into that. Okay, So okay, this

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<v Speaker 3>is how I approach that. I was an athlete growing up, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm like, I'm never gonna have a coach

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<v Speaker 3>that's like you're perfect. Everything you do is perfect, there's

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<v Speaker 3>no room for improvement. You had a perfect game. My

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<v Speaker 3>mindset is like there's always room for improvement. You can

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<v Speaker 3>always be better, you can always create a better version

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<v Speaker 3>of yourself. And so one of the things that like

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<v Speaker 3>I love about my husband and we play off each

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<v Speaker 3>other really well in this regard is that we always

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<v Speaker 3>push each other and like he's my best friend, Like

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<v Speaker 3>we have that kind of relationship. He's never gonna be like, oh, babe,

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<v Speaker 3>you're perfect. Everything you do is perfect, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't need to do anything better. He's like he's

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<v Speaker 3>honest with me. I'm honest with him, and that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I love him because I'm like I never have to

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<v Speaker 3>guess if anything that he's telling me is true because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, if he's like you're in eight point five,

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<v Speaker 3>I know he's telling me the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>If that's stunning on me, I know it really does,

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<v Speaker 3>because he's not just pandering to me. He's not just

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<v Speaker 3>pandering saying what he thinks I need to hear. And like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I have healthy self esteem like that, like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't need to be perfect. Nobody's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing's perfect. You can always be.

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<v Speaker 1>Better, No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing about you because when I'm watch

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<v Speaker 2>you on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, I was

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<v Speaker 2>so intrigued because it's not easy, and trust me, I

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<v Speaker 2>know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy for a newbie to enter a shell that's been

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<v Speaker 2>offered many seasons and have a voice is very intimidating.

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<v Speaker 2>And you came in like a wrecking ball, came Ola Cyrus.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was so intrigued, really intrigued by you.

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<v Speaker 2>I obviously did not and so did the rain drops

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people who you know, watch the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I never felt like I knew you.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I want to do, really briefly is I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get to know you because, like you just said,

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<v Speaker 2>you are an athlete, So like, talk to me about

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<v Speaker 2>your childhood where you like the girl that the volleyball, cheerleading, basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>all those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so let's like, let's bring it all the way back.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start from like the very beginning. So I'm biracial.

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<v Speaker 3>I was put up for adoption when I was born.

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<v Speaker 3>My mother's Dutch, my pological father's Nigerian, and I've never

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<v Speaker 3>met them, so they put me up for adoption when

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<v Speaker 3>I was born. I've never met them, so they put

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<v Speaker 3>me it for adoption when I was born. I was

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<v Speaker 3>adopted at two weeks old by a Dutch Indonesian family.

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<v Speaker 3>So I grew up, you know, it was a biracial

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<v Speaker 3>girl in an Asian household. And then my parents got

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<v Speaker 3>divorced when I was ten, so I was raised by

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<v Speaker 3>my mom, by a single mother. She raised me and

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<v Speaker 3>my two sisters. I grew up in a very small

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<v Speaker 3>farm town about an hour outside of Vancouver in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I was super into sports. I started running

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<v Speaker 3>track when I was five. I did that all the

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<v Speaker 3>way up to high school and then switched over to

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<v Speaker 3>like basketball, Yes, volleyball, like all the things, but basketball

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<v Speaker 3>was my primary sport and I played that through high school.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I played in college as well, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was really my vehicle to you know, get my degree.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my bachelor's degree in nursing. You know, because

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't grow up with a lot right Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I

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<v Speaker 3>had to work really hard and make really good decisions

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<v Speaker 3>to be where I am now. So played basketball in college,

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<v Speaker 3>got my nursing degree. I moved to la six months

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<v Speaker 3>after I graduated, and then I became a CRNA, met

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<v Speaker 3>my husband, who was an NFL player. We got married

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<v Speaker 3>for children. Later we started a nonprofit foundation to help

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<v Speaker 3>youth and underserved communities. And then I was out of

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<v Speaker 3>the blue, asked of me on a reality show. So

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<v Speaker 3>there you go in a nutshell, that's Anna Marie.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the biggest things that you just said

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<v Speaker 2>that really really makes me understand you more too, is

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that you never met your biological parents and

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<v Speaker 2>being a biracial girl growing up in a pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>an Asian family, right, yeap. What was that like for

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<v Speaker 2>you in terms of your identity? Were you aware that

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<v Speaker 2>you were black biracial? Was that confusing for you at all?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad you asked that it was. I was

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<v Speaker 3>always the anomaly. I was always the girl that was different.

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<v Speaker 3>I never quite fit in anywhere. There were not a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of black people where I was from, so I

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<v Speaker 3>was always the only black person, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was it was hard like not seeing people that look

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<v Speaker 3>like me. And I think that was, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of one of the factors for me moving down here

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<v Speaker 3>as well, because I didn't want to always be different.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to always have to explain everything from

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<v Speaker 3>from the smallest things to like why do you wrap

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<v Speaker 3>your hair at night? To like, you know, why, you

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<v Speaker 3>know I have a muscular frame. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes a little bit more accepted by like the black

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<v Speaker 3>community maybe as an athlete. And so, yeah, it was,

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<v Speaker 3>it was. It was hard. I struggled with my identity

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<v Speaker 3>a lot growing up, and then even when I moved here,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I felt like I wasn't black enough for

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<v Speaker 3>the black girls, but I wasn't white enough for the

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<v Speaker 3>white girls. So I was always kind of this other category.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I just eventually, you know, matured and

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<v Speaker 3>got to this age and this space in my life

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<v Speaker 3>where I just really came into my own and became

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable with who I am and just kind of embraced

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<v Speaker 3>it and was like, you know what, I'm not like

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else, and that's okay, That's what makes me me,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what makes me unique, and I'm going to celebrate that.

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<v Speaker 3>You Know, my husband, one of the things that he

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<v Speaker 3>told me when we first met, and I'll never forget this,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, you need to always be your own biggest cheerleader.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, no one should cheer louder for you than yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've always carried that with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have any black women that were like your mentors,

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<v Speaker 2>who can like educate you, like you said, this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like wrapping your hair at I and just like the

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<v Speaker 2>applies that black women go through.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, Vancouver at that time, I think

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<v Speaker 3>there were was maybe one black hair salon, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know it was like two hours away from where I lived.

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<v Speaker 3>So my mom, she used to do my hair when

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<v Speaker 3>I was little. I remember sitting there in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the kitchen her doing my hair. It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I posted about it this morning, actually, and I hated it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hated it so much. Both of my sisters one

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<v Speaker 3>is Dutch Indonesian, one's half Filipinos, so you know, they've

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<v Speaker 3>got really straight, dark hair, and so you know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>outside playing in the sandbox doing all the things. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there in the kitchen getting my hair done and

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<v Speaker 3>just wishing that I had hair like my sisters and

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<v Speaker 3>like the rest of my family. So no, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>learn to wrap my hair until maybe ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I just there was there was no one ten

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, Carlos. There were just that's that was not

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<v Speaker 3>my upbringing. There was there was not a black community

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<v Speaker 3>for me. When I started running track when I was twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>there was, you know, another black family who lived in

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<v Speaker 3>another city, and my mom and her bonded over my

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<v Speaker 3>hair actually, and so my used to drive me to

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<v Speaker 3>her house about an hour away, and this woman was

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<v Speaker 3>so kind she used to braid my hair for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I started getting my hair braided when I was

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<v Speaker 3>I think thirteen years old, and that was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my introduction to that. But that's kind of where that

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<v Speaker 3>was the extent of it. And then when I went

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<v Speaker 3>to college and Vancouver, I started driving over the border

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<v Speaker 3>to Seattle to black hair salons, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 3>when I was introduced to like hair extensions and all

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<v Speaker 3>those kinds of things. And then you know, I moved

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<v Speaker 3>to Los Angeles shortly after that, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my brain just went like whoa, because it was just

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<v Speaker 3>it was a whole new world of stuff and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like wow, Like I was like a sponge just like

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<v Speaker 3>absorbing all this black culture that I didn't grow up with,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just so so curious to learn. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was moving here was a very very big learning

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<v Speaker 3>experience for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any desire to find and your biological parents?

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't. Growing up, my older sister was also adopted.

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<v Speaker 3>She's half Indonesian and half Caucasian, and she's four years

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<v Speaker 3>older than me, and she didn't have any desire to

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<v Speaker 3>so I think because she didn't, I just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>followed suit, like, Oh, my big sister doesn't care, so

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care either, Like, and my family is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up in the most loving, huge Indonesian family,

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<v Speaker 3>just the most amazing, loving family. So no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really care. And then as time has kind

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<v Speaker 3>of gone on and I lost my mother this past year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>After that happened, I've my curiosity is kind of grown.

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<v Speaker 3>And my older sister in I guess about three months

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<v Speaker 3>ago now, after our mom passed, she became more curious

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<v Speaker 3>and she had sent away for additional adoption paperwork that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't even know existed. And the paperwork contained her

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<v Speaker 3>biological father's name in it, and she actually found him

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<v Speaker 3>on Facebook, so she reached out. The craziest story. They

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<v Speaker 3>were both separately married, her parents they conceived her broke

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<v Speaker 3>up gave her up for adoption. A year later, they

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<v Speaker 3>got back together and they've been together for forty years.

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<v Speaker 3>So she just reckoned. She just found them. So she has,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, her parents are together, she has four brothers

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<v Speaker 3>and sisters. Everyone in her biological family has you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fully embraced her. She has this whole It's like a

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<v Speaker 3>puzzle piece that she's had put back into place. So

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<v Speaker 3>that happening for her has sorry, it has made me

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<v Speaker 3>feel that void in my life. And then there's this

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<v Speaker 3>story that I actually told Erica and Dreet when we

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<v Speaker 3>were in Spain at the Pia dinner. I have a

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<v Speaker 3>friend here in La that lives in this gated community

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<v Speaker 3>and oh thank you O, my God, like all the

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<v Speaker 3>real stuff. So who lives in this community? And one

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<v Speaker 3>day I was visiting her house and the security guard

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<v Speaker 3>and I were chit chatting on my way in and

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<v Speaker 3>he's Congolese and he's like, sister, where are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, oh, I'm half.

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<v Speaker 3>Nigerian and he's like, okay, well, like have you been

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<v Speaker 3>And I said no, I haven't. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>was adopted. I don't know much about the culture, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know my family. There and he said, you

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<v Speaker 3>were adopted and you're Nigerian. And he said, who's night

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<v Speaker 3>and your mom or your dad? And I said my

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<v Speaker 3>biological father and he said, you need to find him.

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<v Speaker 3>He said he doesn't know you exist. He said biological

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<v Speaker 3>men are biological or sorry, he said, Nigerian men don't

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<v Speaker 3>leave their children. You need to find him because he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't know that you exist. So, and you know, Dare

0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.960
<v Speaker 3>and Eric were, you know, they were so awesome when

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<v Speaker 3>I told him this. They were so supportive and so loving.

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<v Speaker 3>So that in combination with my older sister just finding

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<v Speaker 3>her biological family and my mother passing so suddenly, it

0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.040
<v Speaker 3>really does feel like I have this huge void in

0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:52.960
<v Speaker 3>my life now. So I also sent away for the

0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.480
<v Speaker 3>same paperwork that my sister did that and I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for it to come back now, and I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 3>there is, you know, a name or something in it

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<v Speaker 3>additional that you know, can hopefully lead be in that

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<v Speaker 3>direction to try to find him. The paperwork that I

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<v Speaker 3>do have currently, my biological mother had expressed in it

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<v Speaker 3>that she didn't want me to try to reach out

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<v Speaker 3>to her or try to find her at all. She

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<v Speaker 3>just believed that she wasn't equipped, you know, at the

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<v Speaker 3>time to take care of a child, which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I fully understand and I fully respect, but because it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have any mention of him, it does make me

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<v Speaker 3>wonder if he knows that I exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, it's deep because obviously it was also an

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<v Speaker 2>interracial relationship and we don't know what that was like

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<v Speaker 2>for your mom to deal with in her household with

0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.520
<v Speaker 2>her parents, and whether or not, you know, getting pregnant

0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.360
<v Speaker 2>by a black man something that just was was very

0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.680
<v Speaker 2>taboo at the time. We just don't know. But the spirit,

0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm very spiritual. The spirit that I'm feeling right now

0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:06.480
<v Speaker 2>is I also agree with him that I don't think

0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.640
<v Speaker 2>your father knows and listen, everything happens for a reason.

0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.600
<v Speaker 2>That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Absolutely, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think your visibility right now could also include you reconciling

0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.000
<v Speaker 2>with your biological dad and having that relationship and the

0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:24.720
<v Speaker 2>story I want to share with you, and I'll move

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<v Speaker 2>on from this after that.

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<v Speaker 1>But my Miami realtor, her name is Aja Crowder.

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<v Speaker 2>She's married to Channing Crowder, who has a podcast, and

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<v Speaker 2>she recently met her biological father a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And he now works for her brokerage.

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<v Speaker 2>They're super closed and you know, like she's like our

0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:50.880
<v Speaker 2>age knows, you know, and she's just like she had

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<v Speaker 2>to find him and.

0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Is beautiful to see this adult.

0:16:56.280 --> 0:17:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Rump woman have this and they're like this, they're like

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<v Speaker 2>super tight and it happened the way it was supposed

0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to happen. But my point in saying that it's never

0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.879
<v Speaker 2>too late. And he's such a good grandfather to you know,

0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.280
<v Speaker 2>his grandkids and they cannot get enough of him, and

0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.680
<v Speaker 2>they all live in the same you know, community in Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to share that to you so that

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<v Speaker 2>you're aware that it's never too late.

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<v Speaker 1>And my prayer tonight that I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>When I speak to Jesus honey, because is I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to include you on my prayer list because I want

0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:36.200
<v Speaker 2>that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's sad because.

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<v Speaker 2>These are the things I wanted to see on The

0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Real House Billy Hills, because you know, listen, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>huge fan of the show, and when you came on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, I'm like, Wow, she's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>most unlikable person on this I've ever seen on Housewise,

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<v Speaker 2>like what is going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm like, I want to give sister

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. Listen, what about black people? We're like, I'm alright.

0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.200
<v Speaker 2>For you because when black people watch Family Feud, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well alert we group with the black people. We're watching

0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.520
<v Speaker 2>family Feud for the black family, right, it is what

0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:16.840
<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, you guys were running on one. Prove us

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<v Speaker 1>right hard?

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<v Speaker 3>Si?

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<v Speaker 2>So right, how did you get the call to even like,

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<v Speaker 2>did you audition casting tape?

0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.800
<v Speaker 3>I didn't audition for well, okay, so this is how

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<v Speaker 3>it happened, Kyle.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we moved.

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<v Speaker 3>From our old home to our new home two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half years ago, we bought our house through the agency,

0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:47.800
<v Speaker 3>right Mauricio's company. And then maybe so fast forward to

0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:53.520
<v Speaker 3>the holidays. Right before they they asked me to come on. Okay,

0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.680
<v Speaker 3>so December two thousand, what is this twenty twenty two maybe,

0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.719
<v Speaker 3>and they had a VIP event or some of their

0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.080
<v Speaker 3>clients at their home. My husband and I are running

0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:06.000
<v Speaker 3>around the holiday scene doing all the parties and we're like, oh,

0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.000
<v Speaker 3>it's on our street. They live on our street. So

0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 3>we were like, yeah, let's go drop by. So we

0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.760
<v Speaker 3>go and they thought my husband was like hysterical because

0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.560
<v Speaker 3>he has such a character and so they totally hit

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.440
<v Speaker 3>it off and I didn't even talk that much that night.

0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.879
<v Speaker 3>And then so fast forward three months, Kyle sends me

0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.600
<v Speaker 3>a message and she's like, hey, we just started filming

0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.800
<v Speaker 3>season thirteen of Housewives and the producers are interested in

0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.840
<v Speaker 3>talking to you. Do you have any interest? And I

0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:37.080
<v Speaker 3>show this to my husband because I was like like what,

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:38.679
<v Speaker 3>and like what do I do with this? Because this

0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.840
<v Speaker 3>had never been anything that was like, you know, on

0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.560
<v Speaker 3>my radar, in my realm. You know, I was very

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.200
<v Speaker 3>happy being like a private person. My husband obviously is

0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.760
<v Speaker 3>a public person, very happy being a private person, taking

0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.840
<v Speaker 3>care of the home, the family, going to work, doing

0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:58.199
<v Speaker 3>all my things. And I never really saw myself in

0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.639
<v Speaker 3>that light. But and my husband was like, you know

0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.479
<v Speaker 3>what I've been telling you for years. He's like, you're

0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:08.199
<v Speaker 3>such a dynamic person. You're a multi hyphen it. You

0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:13.080
<v Speaker 3>have this huge personality and a story to tell. He's like,

0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:14.760
<v Speaker 3>I think you should do it. He's like, I think

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:18.320
<v Speaker 3>it would be a great platform to get your message out. Ultimately,

0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 3>I just want to inspire and motivate people. That's literally

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.280
<v Speaker 3>all I'm about. And he's like, I think this would

0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:24.639
<v Speaker 3>be a great platform for you to do it. And

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know what, say yes, say all

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.000
<v Speaker 3>the yeses, Like why not? You know what I mean,

0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:30.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm in this point in my life, I'm forty one

0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:35.920
<v Speaker 3>years old. Why not? So they called me like two

0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.560
<v Speaker 3>seconds later, and then casting called me two seconds later.

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Right after that, I did my casting tape maybe two

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 3>days later, and I was filming it within two weeks.

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.920
<v Speaker 3>What Yeah, So they had already been filming for six

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.359
<v Speaker 3>weeks when they reached out to me, and then so

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 3>then I was just kind of you know, went in

0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:58.680
<v Speaker 3>there week eight and yeah, so that was that was that.

0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Did you want the show? Prior to being on.

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<v Speaker 3>It, i'd watched maybe the first maybe like five seasons

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.240
<v Speaker 3>or something, you know, like way back in the day,

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.919
<v Speaker 3>like you know, before kids, before I was married, all

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff. I hadn't watched it, and I

0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 3>don't know however many years so when they cast me

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.440
<v Speaker 3>and when they were working when my contract was being negotiated,

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:20.879
<v Speaker 3>I binge watched all of the last season because I

0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:22.200
<v Speaker 3>was like, who are these people?

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>What is happening? What am I about to do?

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't know anything, So I binge watched it

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.639
<v Speaker 3>and then and then yeah, first night show up at

0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Kyle's house for the wee dinner. So that was it.

0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:38.560
<v Speaker 3>That was it. It happened very fast and fully, fully

0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:39.400
<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere.

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:44.439
<v Speaker 2>What's funny is again me being a producer. Yeah, I

0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 2>see things that the audience may not always see, right

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>for sure, So I knew the moment you were inserted. Yeah,

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, nothing was happening the first couple of weeks clearly,

0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.359
<v Speaker 2>and they needed a fireball to come in and to

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:04.639
<v Speaker 2>sort of like change the temperature in the room. Teddy

0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.280
<v Speaker 2>Meller Camp is a good friend of mine. I've been

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:09.359
<v Speaker 2>on her podcast and she and I even talked about

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the fact because she filmed the scene that never aired.

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 2>And what's funny is the scene she and I spoke

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:18.199
<v Speaker 2>about her podcast. She got into it with somebody. I'm like,

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.400
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Stady's back, and I'm like, girl, are

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:22.919
<v Speaker 2>you going to like Bee a friend of And she

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:26.200
<v Speaker 2>said they called me to come back, and I.

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Said, I need to get paid really, yes, didn't tell

0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:30.640
<v Speaker 1>me that.

0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wow, yes, She's like, you know, and I was like, well, girl,

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.800
<v Speaker 2>nothing must be happening then. And then when I'm watching

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the show and I saw you inter the Weed dinner.

0:22:42.600 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, And what I enjoyed about you is

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you did not seem intimidated.

0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:52.960
<v Speaker 1>The camera does love you.

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:58.159
<v Speaker 2>You're very comfortable, and that's a very intimidating crowd to

0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.479
<v Speaker 2>be around. I mean, to be at a dinner with

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Camille Grammer, Denise Richards and the beauty of you Anna Marie,

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.959
<v Speaker 2>you were sort of like the voice of the audience

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 2>because you were like, Okay, what's going on here?

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are we talking? What exactly? Confused?

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Did you get inserted because nothing was happening and they

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 2>needed to make sure that you came in and may

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:24.560
<v Speaker 2>shit pop.

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how to answer that, but you know,

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 3>you've been in this space for a very long time,

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:41.160
<v Speaker 3>and they, I mean, they had a reason for having

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 3>me come in mid season. You know, I don't know

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:47.440
<v Speaker 3>exactly what that is. I feel like, you know, I

0:23:48.040 --> 0:23:49.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of think you said it well, like I think

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 3>you know what the reason was, because I don't think

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:58.199
<v Speaker 3>they usually have people enter mid season unless there is

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:03.240
<v Speaker 3>a clear reason for what that reason was. I don't

0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't know exactly.

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Did you ever feel like you were there to fill

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 2>a black quota.

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't know. Really I felt like

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 3>going into it, I really thought that it was more

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 3>of a family thing. Like I thought that they really

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 3>wanted to show my life and my family, you know,

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 3>because all the things that I kept seeing in the

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 3>press when they found out or when it was leaked

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 3>that I was going to be filming for the show,

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.719
<v Speaker 3>was about how she has this big, full life. You know,

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:48.199
<v Speaker 3>she has a famous husband, she has a career, she

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 3>is a philanthropist with a foundation, she has four children.

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Like they just kept talking about this big, full life

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 3>that I had. And so that was actually the reason

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 3>that I thought that I was, you know, inserted into

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.920
<v Speaker 3>the cast, because I thought that they, you know, wanted

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 3>to show a different element, you know. I thought they

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 3>wanted to show somebody that, you know, could could kind

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 3>of check a lot of boxes and fill a lot

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 3>of spaces and kind of maneuver through the girls and

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 3>the dynamics. Because I'm a people person, like I can

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:29.919
<v Speaker 3>get along with anybody, literally anybody. And when you say that,

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 3>it seemed like I was really comfortable when I came

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.879
<v Speaker 3>in and I was at that dinner. It's like, I mean,

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm around a lot of famous people, a lot, right,

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Like it is, it's never been about me, but I've

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.760
<v Speaker 3>always I've been around it for twelve years, you know,

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 3>So it wasn't it wasn't an intimidating thing in that regard.

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 3>And you know, going back to when we were talking about,

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, me moving here and me finding my identity

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 3>and really finding my voice, like all that really really

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.960
<v Speaker 3>hard work that I had to do on myself really

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:08.719
<v Speaker 3>gave me a strong sense of who I am. And

0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:13.679
<v Speaker 3>so there aren't many situations that I really feel uncomfortable.

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.439
<v Speaker 3>And because I've lived that, you know, I had twenty

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 3>years of feeling uncomfortable and I'm like now I'm like,

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm grounded in who I am. So there, So it

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 3>was I didn't feel and I didn't feel or uncomfortable

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 3>walking into that group of ladies, and I thought that

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought that that's what the show wanted to highlight.

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, now I was excited when you were announced because

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the thing about the show that I felt was missing

0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 2>is we want to see a wealthy black family, you know,

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>black husband, black wife, black kids. That's right, you know,

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>like we desire and by we, I'm speaking of the community, right,

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 2>we decide to see, like we want to see a

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 2>wealthy black.

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Fa you know this is this is Beverly Hills. Yeah,

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 3>black wealth, minority. Wealth is everywhere everywhere. Yeah, because y'all

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 3>are wealthy. Yeah, I'm also very humble. I'm just gonna

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 3>put that right out there, like I yes, yes we

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 3>are wealthy, but I've I'm not the person that's going

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 3>to be like, you know, I know this person, and

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.199
<v Speaker 3>I know this person, and these are my circles and

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 3>this is what I have. Like you know, when we

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 3>were when we were filming, like what is what's the

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.679
<v Speaker 3>most expensive thing your husband's ever bought you? And I

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 3>was like, I'm not going to answer that, do you know,

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 3>because that's just not it's just not my personality, do

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? You can look at my

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 3>lifestyle and you can see what I have, But I'm

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 3>not the person that's going to be like, you know what,

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 3>what's that? What is that thing? They say, like, h

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 3>what is it? Confidence is quiet?

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Like something like yeah, no, it's it's yeah, it's somebody

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>tell me mel.

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 2>It's something like money's loud, but confidence is quiet. It's

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 2>something along those lines. Whereas when you have a lot

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 2>of money. You don't brag about it. It's sort of

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 2>like if you can, you can. You can see when

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.200
<v Speaker 2>someone has it doesn't have to tell you, and when

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 2>your confidence is quiet because people you know that they

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:13.199
<v Speaker 2>see it.

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>And that's what we saw with you.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>And we have a mutual friend in comment because they

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>had His name is Justin Goodron.

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I think he's friends with George.

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Oh my god, oh yay. Oh, I

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 3>love him too much.

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:24.919
<v Speaker 1>I know that.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've been For instance, I was an intern alabet

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>back in like two thousand and like five.

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't and he and I are super closed.

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>And he posted in his stories you had a premiere party, yes,

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yo, you know them, and he said, Lows,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 2>they are good people.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna I want to.

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I want the world to know because my mutual friend

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 2>and his wife they were at your house and he

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>said to me, prior to even us watching you on

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 2>the show, He's like, you're gonna love them, Carlos, because

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>they are good people and they're funny and they have it.

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 2>So I want the world to know that there's people

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>in my life who I trust that has.

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Said nothing but great things about you and your family.

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I that's one thing I will braag about.

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 3>I'll brag about my family. Like are we we are?

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 3>We are? We are? We are good people. My husband

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 3>is the most intelligent, kind hearted individual I have ever met.

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Like he what he does for me, what he does

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 3>for our children, what he does for the community, the

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 3>kids that benefit from our foundation, all the kids he mentors,

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 3>the kids he coaches. He is the most stand up person.

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I married him. I'm like, I want that.

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 3>I literally I want to be like him, and that's

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 3>why I'm with him. And I wanted that from my children,

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, again, not having you know, that strong black

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 3>community growing up in I was like, there there are

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 3>things that I can't teach my children. And I know

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 3>that because I don't even know them yet. I need

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 3>a man that is going to be so strong and

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 3>so steadfast that he can instill in my offspring those

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 3>things that I don't even have. That's why I chose him.

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>But we we are. We are the people Like now

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 3>that you're friends with my friends, we're friends. Like yeah,

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 3>that's odd, seriously, Like you're coming over to play put.

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>The wall tomorrow?

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Like that is that is the Wileys. We call our

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 3>house Wiley's World. If we have mutual friends, you're my

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 3>friend because it's like you're vetted, do you know what

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean? And that's how we approach like everybody. That's

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>why you won't find anybody that has that, anybody that

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 3>knows us, you won't find anybody that has anything bad

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 3>to say about it, because we pride ourselves on being

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 3>good people because that's just who we are. We are

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 3>very honest, We're very honest. We love having fun, we

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 3>love people. We always have people over at our house

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 3>like we just so yeah, I'll brag about my family

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 3>all day. But you know, and going back to like

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:00.280
<v Speaker 3>the money piece and everything, it's like, you know, like

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 3>I know billionaires who walk around in T shirts you

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? Like you know you know what

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like you know, like the most famous people

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 3>in the world are not doing that, Like why would

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 3>I that? And that's just because it's my reality and

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 3>so you know, when we're at the reunion, it was

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 3>so funny when Andy asked that question. He was talking

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 3>about Sutton's income from her her spousal support and then

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 3>he's like, Anri, what do you think about that, and

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Andy, why are you asking you that question?

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 3>He's like, that's what he does, but you know, and

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 3>my answer was that, you know, like that's just not

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 3>that's not what me and my circles do, cause it's like, why,

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 3>it's your reality, So why would you do it? You

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? Like, I don't know you can

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 3>see it. If you can see it, then why do

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 3>I have to stay with you?

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Honey?

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>We saw it, But what we did see, Anna Marie,

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>we did not get a chance to see any house

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 2>reality with you.

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 3>We did not.

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Were you taping scenes your husband and your family at

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 2>home a ton that we just never saw a ton?

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Why weren't we able to see these scenes?

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 2>When you talk about the fact that your announcement was leaked,

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 2>what was also leaked were these uncoverings of people saying

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>that your husband was saying transphobic comments. Did that have

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>anything to do with these scenes being cut out?

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea, but I'm you know, I am

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 3>so happy to address that. And I also want to

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 3>make it very clear that calling someone transphobic is a

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 3>very hurtful, very disgusting, and very damaging thing to say.

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm not transphobic. I support the trans community, I support

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 3>trans rights, I support women's sports. No one is transphobic.

0:32:56.200 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 3>So we you know, we did we did film that, and.

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 2>You guys filmed the conversation about the transphobic work we did.

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did, really, yes, and I who all the ladies.

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 3>It was all of us together, the housewives, all the

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 3>housewives together. We filmed this, and you know, it was

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 3>literally hours and hours of me being badgered and attacked

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 3>on on this this topic. And you know, my my

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 3>stance was, and I was very clear about it, didn't

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 3>shy away from it at all, was that, you know,

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 3>the issue arises because of the topic of transgendered female

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 3>athletes competing in sports with cisgendered female athletes. And you

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 3>know my husband's stance on it is that he, you know,

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 3>is not in support of it. He's in support of

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>their being safe spaces for everybody, and and I agree

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 3>with that. And you know, so we we talked about this.

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, I said things like, you know, if you're

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 3>comparing hand size, heart size, lung capacity, muscle mass, you know,

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 3>all of wingspan, all of those sorts of things, then

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 3>there is going to be an advantage in one over

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 3>the other. And as a female athlete who played, you know,

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 3>for so many years, I can I can see that

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 3>and that's why, you know, that's why I say that,

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, And I brought up comparisons to them, you know.

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 3>I was like, Lisa Leslie versus Lebron James, Lisa, I

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:34.280
<v Speaker 3>love you, brother, She's like a dear friend of mine.

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Lisa versus Lebron. Right, I was like, what's going to happen?

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Serena versus Djokovic? Right, what's going to happen? Like I think?

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 3>And you know, they none of them were athletes, so

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 3>it's hard to have It was hard to have that

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 3>conversation with them in that regard because I think they

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 3>were just so focused on how is the audience going

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.239
<v Speaker 3>to take this pandering? Right? It was. It was all

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 3>about pander and virtue signaling. There wasn't any you know,

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 3>rational logical conversation behind it, because this isn't something that

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.240
<v Speaker 3>they you know, they're just they just want to label

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 3>me as transphobic like that that standing up for women's

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 3>sports and believing that there's a biological difference if someone

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 3>has gone through male puberty, that doesn't make me or

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 3>my husband transphobic. We support the trans community, we support

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 3>trans rights, we support women's sports. Right, you know, I

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 3>had there's a there's a video of Serena Williams from

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 3>years ago. She was on I want to say Letterman,

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 3>and you know, she essentially says the same thing too.

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 3>She was talking about I think it was Andy. Andy

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Murray had asked her to play against him, and she's like,

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 3>if I played against Andy, he would beat me six oh,

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 3>six oh in like five to six minutes, maybe ten minutes.

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.319
<v Speaker 3>But like, you know, it's it's a difference. It's a

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 3>different sport, right, men's tennis. Women's said, it's a different sport.

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 3>She's like, they're stronger, they're faster, he would destroy me.

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:08.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to play with them. I don't want

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 3>to play with I want to play women's tennis. She

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 3>said this. You can google it.

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 3>So, but this was pre this whole issue of or

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 3>topic of transgendered females competing in cystendered sports, and so

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 3>before it was an issue, nobody really cared. But now

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 3>that it's such a big issue, nobody wants to talk

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 3>about it, nobody wants to touch it because look what

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.799
<v Speaker 3>happened to us. We get labeled transphobic for doing it

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 3>behind closed doors. Please trust and believe ninety percent of

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 3>people think that way. It's just that we live in

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 3>a society where if you say things like that, you're

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.880
<v Speaker 3>going to get quote unquote canceled or labeled or something.

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 3>People are so afraid of telling the truth and going

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 3>back to who the wilies are? We are truth tellers,

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 3>you know there are There is another housewife that that

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 3>even agreed with me. We had this conversation and she agreed,

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 3>she's she agreed with that stance. Oh gurse, I agreed

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 3>with that stands she won't say it publicly, of course,

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, so you know. And then there was a

0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 3>whole nother issue also talked about that night, and something

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 3>floating around from that that recent article saying like, oh,

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 3>you're best friends with Candace Owens and let me we're

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna let's talk about that. I have never met Candace Owens.

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know her. Remember years ago, when that campaign

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 3>came out, there was a fashion designer, a fashion house

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:47.720
<v Speaker 3>that put out a campaign that you know, was basically

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 3>theorized to be like a pedophile you know, a pedophile

0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 3>campaign and you know, I'm a mother to four children.

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I was I was outraged. I'm just gonna put that

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 3>out there. I was absolutely outraged when I saw this,

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 3>and I felt like there were a lot of people

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 3>that weren't talking about it. I was, you know, waiting, like,

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 3>where's the outrage. This is children we're talking about. This

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 3>is not okay. And Candace Owens was one of the

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.720
<v Speaker 3>very few people that I felt like was actually speaking

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 3>out about it. So I started following her on Instagram.

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 3>And from following someone on Instagram to them becoming your

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>best friend, it's a very very big space between there.

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Who labeled you and Candace Owens as being best.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 3>Friends when I started filming last year. It's like one

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.839
<v Speaker 3>of you know, the blog site or like I say

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.600
<v Speaker 3>it was it was written. It was a written article

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.720
<v Speaker 3>that said, like Anne Marie Wiley, wife of Marcella's Wiley,

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 3>filming for Housewives, and he's transphobic and the Wileys are

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 3>transphobic and she's best friends with Candace Owens. Like that's

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:52.720
<v Speaker 3>where all this stuff came from.

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>This Someone on the show addressed the Candace Owens.

0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, then while Garcel kept saying, well, it was

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 3>the candas o ones of it all for me. And

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 3>when you see the new article that just came out

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.240
<v Speaker 3>a few days ago and with all of the quotes

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 3>from Garcel and Crystal, which I found very suspicious. It

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, it went back to when we were at

0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 3>the reunion and when I, you know, called out the

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 3>double standard or the hypocrisy of Garcel, you know, labeling

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 3>to read a Karen because she used the word attack

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 3>when she talked about her, And when I said, why

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 3>is it that when Durte says that to you, it's

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:43.919
<v Speaker 3>not okay? And let me also say this. The first

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 3>thing I said was that I agreed with Garcel. You

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 3>should not call black women angry and you should not

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 3>call black women aggressive. I said, I agree with that, Garcel.

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:55.319
<v Speaker 3>But I also want to point out this, Why is

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.200
<v Speaker 3>it that when Dree does it to you, it's not okay?

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 3>But when Sutton does it to me, no one says anything.

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 3>You didn't you didn't even say anything. You didn't you

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 3>didn't stand up for me, and you didn't say anything.

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>What does she say to that?

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 2>Because I watched that ever she said, so she never

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 2>never aired the comment.

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 3>She that's what she said. She in that article, it

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 3>says what she said. She said, Oh, you want to

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.360
<v Speaker 3>know why because as soon as I found out that

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 3>you were best friends with Candace Owens, I decided I

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 3>don't mess with you. You hear that, Bravo, You better

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 3>leave that in Bravo. That's what was said, and you

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 3>can read that in that article. That's coming from that article,

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 3>and that's what was said. So again it goes back

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 3>to her, you know, trying to be you know, I'm gonna,

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna put you out there as the other black

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 3>woman who you know is best friends with Candace Owens,

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 3>the woman I've never met before, because I'm gonna I'm

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna power to the people that you know.

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Correct when you came on the show, do you think

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Garcel wanted to be only black woman on Beverly Hill's Housewives?

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 3>I did get that feeling.

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:06.439
<v Speaker 1>Was she welcoming to you?

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:13.759
<v Speaker 3>She was? And then she wasn't. She was, And then

0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 3>as the show started airing and playing out, and you know,

0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, I'm being portrayed in this light

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.239
<v Speaker 3>and I'm the quote unquote villain at least I think

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I was. Then she wasn't anymore. And then I think

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, that's what why you saw or sorry you

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't see, but that's why you're hearing now of what

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 3>she said at the reunion, because I think now she's like, well,

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 3>people don't like her anyway, so why do I have

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 3>to stand by her? I don't. I don't need to

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 3>stand by her. So and you know, she was very

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 3>she was very quick too, and I don't. I really

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 3>don't think she liked me pointing out that hypocrisy because

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that she's been able to get away with

0:41:56.680 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 3>unnecessarily playing the race card so many times unchallenged because

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 3>who can challenge her? Right? The other ladies can't challenge her,

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think that's been her play for so long.

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 3>So then when I'm there and as a black woman,

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 3>I can say, you know what, why didn't you speak

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.959
<v Speaker 3>out about my microaggressions or at least support me? And

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 3>she didn't like that, right, she didn't like that at all,

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 3>And so I think that that Sorry, I'm just like

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 3>having a little brain fright here.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, no, I think what you're saying is the

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 2>fact that it was unfortunate because you came on the

0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>show and obviously you know there's another black woman there again.

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>We the audience was excited.

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Garcell, you have somebody at least yes that can

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 2>relate to you on these issues. And you're telling me

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that the stuff we did not see on the show.

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Oftentimes she never wants supported you.

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.239
<v Speaker 1>When it's yeah.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 3>And I mean we had a great, a great meeting

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 3>together at my house that we that we filmed, and

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 3>it was awesome. You know, we we had all these

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 3>things in common. We really delved into, you know, her

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.240
<v Speaker 3>when she moved here and what that was like for her,

0:43:15.600 --> 0:43:17.640
<v Speaker 3>and when I moved here what that was like for her.

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, we have a lot of those sort of

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 3>identity things in common. You know, it was a very

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 3>unique experience for us, both moving here from different countries,

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 3>and so I felt like we really bonded over that.

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 3>But like I said, once the show started playing, she

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, she played a different tune and it you

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 3>know when I was watching it back, and all the

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 3>things especially that she would say in her confessionals.

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 2>You know have co Garsell confessional gangsta, yes, but they

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 2>were also like things on confessional but not to your

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 2>face right exactly.

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 3>But then it's like, where is if you're so pro black,

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 3>where is your support for your sister that you were supporting,

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:58.479
<v Speaker 3>but now you're not behind her back?

0:43:58.600 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:02.719
<v Speaker 3>Where did that? Where did that go? You know? Why

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 3>are you trying to throw me under the bus with

0:44:05.880 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 3>this Candace Owens thing that is fabricated out of nowhere

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 3>when we've already discussed and you know that it's not

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:16.799
<v Speaker 3>a real thing. You know, where where are you supporting

0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 3>me when your best friend Sutton is you know, a

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.959
<v Speaker 3>week after we film the reunion using that exact same

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.480
<v Speaker 3>word attack again on Watch What Happens Live? You know

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 3>it's the exact same thing. She should have gone to

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 3>her friend Sutton and said Sutton not okay to say

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 3>she's yelling at you and she's not Sutton. We just

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:40.239
<v Speaker 3>talked about this last week at the reunion. You just

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 3>said that she attacked you on Watch What Happens Live?

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Like it's the same It's the exact same thing, but

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.080
<v Speaker 3>she only wants to call it when it applies to her.

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Are those women afraid to go against gar Cell because

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 2>they will be called Karen's a racist?

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I would be if I wasn't black, I would be.

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 2>You see that when you're filming do you see that?

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you sense that like they're there. It seems like

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 2>and again, audience member here, it does seem like those

0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 2>women do not want to go against Garcel at all

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 2>because they fear of being called a racist.

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I don't know that

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 3>for sure. No one's ever said that to me, but

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 3>I would say, yeah, I would feel that way. And

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 3>another thing from the reunion, if you look at all

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 3>of Garcel's reactions to when Derey was speaking, you know,

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 3>constantly talking under her breath and rolling her eyes and

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of doing like the snarky giggle, reverse those roles.

0:45:45.080 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 3>If that was Deret doing that to Garcel, all hell

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 3>would have broken loose. All hell would have broken loose.

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 3>But she gets the pass, she gets to do that,

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:01.399
<v Speaker 3>and it's just again the hypocrisies, so many hypocrisies.

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Do you think one of the other reasons why you

0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.919
<v Speaker 2>were cast is because maybe you could be the only

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:10.800
<v Speaker 2>one that could have an opinion I mean to Garsel

0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 2>and not be called out.

0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Of their name.

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, absolutely plausible, because it's true. I could

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 3>write and I did. I pointed out that it was

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 3>a double standard, and she got really she got really

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>angry at it. So but it is true. Like anybody

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 3>can see that, right it is. It is true. You're

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 3>calling it one side and not the other. That is

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 3>a double standard.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 2>I want to get into Crystal for a second. My

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 2>views as a viewer is that I also think Crystal

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 2>panned pandas to the audience. Crystal, in my opinion, I

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:54.760
<v Speaker 2>don't get anything genuine from her as I watched the show.

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

0:46:55.880 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't really care about your brother and his ex girlfriend.

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't, I don't care. I'm going to

0:47:01.920 --> 0:47:05.760
<v Speaker 2>tell you what I care about again. Producer did nine

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 2>seasons of Atlanta Housewives, two of Jersey, Like, I kind.

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Of know what I'm talking about here. I don't care

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:12.879
<v Speaker 1>about your brother and his ex girlfriend crying. I don't,

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:14.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm gonna give a shit about that.

0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:16.959
<v Speaker 2>You're a housewife and you're holding a diamond, so let's

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 2>invest in your world.

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I really am.

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Intrigued by this marriage that she has. I think her

0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.839
<v Speaker 2>husband seems like a great guy. I'm so intrigued by

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:29.839
<v Speaker 2>this so his life, you know, being involved in Lion King,

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>and you know it came out that Crystal has this,

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, multi million dollar business with water. I believe

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 2>it is, but we don't see none of those things.

0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:43.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm so curious about how one person can lose fourteen

0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>friends within a weekend. I'm so intrigued by that. But

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't get any of those things from her. I get.

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 2>I get phony baloney, and not Oscar Mayer. So, as

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:00.879
<v Speaker 2>you're filming with her and we saw seasoned, I want

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 2>to address this as a.

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Viewer and a producer.

0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 2>I won thousand percent believe she called those women uneducated.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I watched the show when Crystal, in her mind, is

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 2>telling her truth. I do believe one hundred percent that

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Crystal did believe sudden walking to her room was a violation.

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 2>I believe that because she has such passion for it

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 2>that I was like, I didn't think she did intentionally,

0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 2>but Crystal is so believable in her passion. I'm ot

0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 2>at you, Sis, that's your passion, and I believe it.

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 2>When you said, no, Sis, you call these women uneducated

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>and saw all these things, she gave you nothing, And

0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, wait a second, this woman is

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>now pretty much saying things that could question your character.

0:48:54.760 --> 0:48:59.080
<v Speaker 1>And you don't have anything to say. So I said,

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>oh Anna, Marie's telling the truth. Girlfriend, she told you

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 1>this right, Yeah.

0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Of course she did.

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>What who makes that up? Like?

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Why already said, like, I don't I don't lie. Like

0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, I made a lot of mistakes doing this show,

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 3>but like one thing I don't do is I don't lie.

0:49:13.800 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Why would I make that up? And it's such a

0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 3>specific thing. So Crystal and I met around the same

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:23.439
<v Speaker 3>time Kyle and I met the Holidays, about three months

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:27.800
<v Speaker 3>before this all happened, and we met. We have we

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 3>have a bunch of mutual friends, and we met at.

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:33.400
<v Speaker 1>A the fourteen she lost on the fourth, well, I

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>know a couple of those fourteen two like one question

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that we'll move on. Is it true that some of

0:49:42.360 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 1>those fourteen friends.

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Left her because when Housewives called them to do the

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 2>show Crystal Carlos I heard allegedly that those fourteen friends,

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.839
<v Speaker 2>maybe thirteen or twelve of them were called to do

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the real house spots of Belly Hills, and that Crystal

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 2>told them not to do the show. But when Crystal

0:50:05.920 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 2>got the phone call, she never told those fourteen friends

0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and she did the show anyway.

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Is that true?

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:15.439
<v Speaker 3>You're very smart, You're very smart. Okay, yeah, continue, yep,

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:20.439
<v Speaker 3>you're very smart. So we met and our conversation went

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 3>as follows. You know, our friend introduced us and I'm like,

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 3>what do you do? She's like, I'm a housewife, which

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:28.520
<v Speaker 3>like she denied, well because like she's very she loves

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 3>being a housewife. That girl loves being a housewife. Let

0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 3>me tell you she loves being a house It is her.

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:36.400
<v Speaker 3>She loves being a housewife.

0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, a housepot, but belly Hills, not a housewife inside

0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:40.240
<v Speaker 2>the house.

0:50:40.040 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>With the nanny.

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Like the show is like, is she this

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 3>girl was gonna fight tooth and nail to keep her diamond.

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:50.200
<v Speaker 3>Let we we'll get into that. So she's like, I'm

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 3>a housewife, and I was like, oh yeah, And you know,

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:54.320
<v Speaker 3>you go into the regular questions like are you guys

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:56.680
<v Speaker 3>really friends, like the same thing people would ask me, right,

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 3>you guys really friends? You guys hang out all that

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:01.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff. And then she's like what do you do?

0:51:01.880 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 3>And I said I am a nurse anesthetist, and then

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 3>she kind of looked at me puzzled like this, and

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 3>then I said I do anesthesia and then she goes, oh,

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 3>She's like, my sister is an anethesioldist, and I was like, oh, yes, perfect,

0:51:17.200 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 3>she'll know what I do then, because do you know

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 3>what a nurse anesthetist is or a nurse anetheysiologist?

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 1>You do me?

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:24.759
<v Speaker 3>No? I know.

0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing. We'll get into that.

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.040
<v Speaker 3>We'll get into that too. So that's a whole as

0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 3>you saw, that's a whole nother can of worms. So

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 3>that was that conversation. And then so then you see

0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:39.360
<v Speaker 3>on the show where she's like, well, you called yourself

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 3>a doctor. She say doctor or antis olgist or something

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.279
<v Speaker 3>like that, and I was like, I'm a board certified

0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 3>nurse anesetis and like that's what I told you. So

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.839
<v Speaker 3>she made that up. And this is the funny thing too,

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 3>is we've seen it. You watch watch the show. Right,

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 3>as Denise said, watch the show, you can see when

0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.359
<v Speaker 3>she you know, she's got that whole thing about her

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 3>fourteen friends, she's got last season or whatever it was,

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 3>where you know, she went a whole it's a whole

0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 3>season right of implying that Sutton was racist because she

0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 3>said something so dark, she left He's that Sutton was

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 3>so racist for a year and then finally said, Oh,

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:24.880
<v Speaker 3>it's just a feeling like that. And then now this

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:31.880
<v Speaker 3>thing with me misrepresenting my title, so now let's go

0:52:31.960 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 3>into this. She she really she knew that her time

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 3>was like, you know, getting cut short. She needed to

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 3>really bring it and she you know, who better to

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 3>like go at than the newbie who? And I I

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:49.360
<v Speaker 3>thought that was my girl. Like, as soon as I

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 3>got cast, got her number from a friend of ours,

0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 3>called her up. We had this like hour and a

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 3>half long conversation. I thought she was like really going

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 3>to have my back. I was like, Oh, this is

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 3>going to be so great, gonna have fun. We're gonna

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.520
<v Speaker 3>be like, you know, the little Spunky ones or whatever,

0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 3>and she and she was really helpful. You know. Before

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:10.400
<v Speaker 3>we were like going to the weed dinner at Kyle's house.

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:12.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm texting her what are you wearing? I show her

0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:14.680
<v Speaker 3>what I'm wearing. Oh so cute? Yeah great, great great.

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.600
<v Speaker 3>We're in the cars outside waiting to go in. Yeah

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:20.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm here waiting, you know, we're you know, and then

0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 3>but what do you see in the confessional? Oh that

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 3>bitch is nosy. I was like, we were just texting

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:28.440
<v Speaker 3>from the car, you know what I mean. So she

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:33.280
<v Speaker 3>was a very different person off camera versus on camera.

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 3>So I was her opportunity to start that drama. So

0:53:40.000 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 3>when she so, we're en route to Spain and she

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 3>she told me that she said that, so that she

0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 3>this is what she said. I walk out of the

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:54.720
<v Speaker 3>Chanelle store. All the girls from the Shanelle store were shopping,

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:56.799
<v Speaker 3>and she's outside and production's out there and there's no

0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:59.640
<v Speaker 3>cameras anything. I walk out and she's acting normal. And

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 3>this is like halfway there. We're in like Heathrow or something. Right,

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 3>She's acting normal and we haven't spoken since a week

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 3>before at Duri's event when she called me a B

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:16.000
<v Speaker 3>word and accused me of title misappropriation and or misrepresentation.

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 3>And she she's acting normal. I'm like, Crystal, like, what

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:22.360
<v Speaker 3>are you doing. I'm like, this is my career, Like

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 3>this isn't funny, you know, And she's like, no, no, no, no, no,

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 3>it's fine. Like Lisa Renna used to make up stuff

0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 3>all the time. It's totally fine. I'm just so happy

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.760
<v Speaker 3>because now I have a storyline, I have my drama

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:42.280
<v Speaker 3>for the year, and I'll get to come back next year. Verbatim, verbatim, verbatim,

0:54:45.560 --> 0:54:48.239
<v Speaker 3>she said we would go to dinner that night and

0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 3>we would make up at dinner and everything would be fine.

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 3>And she she never she just kept doubling down, doubling down,

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:59.040
<v Speaker 3>doubling down all the time, kept doubling down on it,

0:54:59.400 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 3>and that so that when you see me like not

0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:05.320
<v Speaker 3>being able to like let it go, when she's like, oh,

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 3>I thought she wouldn't let it go until pigs flew

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 3>like because you're lying about me, and you admitted that

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:15.240
<v Speaker 3>you're lying about me for your benefit, and I trusted

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:18.680
<v Speaker 3>you was there were a lot of people I trusted

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.960
<v Speaker 3>in this process. I'm a very Canadian, Like I don't know,

0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm a very trusting person, you know, I don't I

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 3>don't do people wrong in my life, so I don't

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:33.840
<v Speaker 3>expect people to do me wrong. My mistake, I should

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 3>not have assumed that, But I why would I not?

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, why why would I assume that someone was

0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 3>intentionally wanting to do bad things to me, you know,

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 3>or use me for their benefit? You know. But that's

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 3>that's what happened. And she was, you know, she was

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 3>also really the one that was like, you know, leading

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 3>the whole oh you're transphobic thing, that narrative. She was

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:00.560
<v Speaker 3>the one who was like really pushing that as well.

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 3>And then you know, I brought up to them, I said,

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you are so for this cause, I

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.720
<v Speaker 3>was like, do you know what happened today in Florida?

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:14.839
<v Speaker 3>And keep in mind this is a year ago, and

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:15.799
<v Speaker 3>everyone's like what?

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, no, do you know?

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 3>Since you want a virtue signal and pander so much,

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:23.840
<v Speaker 3>do you know what happened today in Florida? And I

0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.480
<v Speaker 3>was like, there was an act passed today in Florida

0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:33.799
<v Speaker 3>that a healthcare professional can can deny care to anybody

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:41.600
<v Speaker 3>in the LGBTQIA community based on their ethical beliefs. I

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 3>was like, but you didn't know that, did you. You

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that because you don't really care, you're just pandering.

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I said, you know what, I know that because I

0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 3>actually do care.

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:56.279
<v Speaker 2>There has been recently went on social media and we

0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 2>have seen him call Garcel she's a con in the

0:57:01.640 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 2>word conflict confused, I mean confused.

0:57:07.040 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>He he obviously.

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Feels strongly about your experience on the show, and you

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:19.640
<v Speaker 2>know the things that these ladies are saying.

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:23.360
<v Speaker 3>But but but also not really like it's even like

0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:26.960
<v Speaker 3>I was he he's the guy like he's been doing this,

0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 3>he's been in this world for thirty years. Like he's

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 3>like he's the one, he's the sounding board for me.

0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 3>You know. Even during this whole process, he's like, it's fine,

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 3>it's TV. Like, calm down, it's TV. You're fine, you

0:57:38.000 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. So I think it was more

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:43.439
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's a husband defending his wife.

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:57:45.160 --> 0:57:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Like he's not emotionally charged by it at all. He's

0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 3>just he's just a husband defending his wife. Which you know,

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 3>that's what that's what they do.

0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>So here we are.

0:57:56.200 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 2>This season is wrapped, I said him a podcast after

0:58:00.640 --> 0:58:08.520
<v Speaker 2>watching part one reunion, I said, rain drops, I feel

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Anna Marie now, and I said, I feel horrible for

0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, saying, like, girls, what was going on with her?

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought you were First of all, you have my

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:22.720
<v Speaker 2>complete condolence. Sys when it comes to your mom, thank you.

0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I lost my mother. It changes you forever. Absolutely, the

0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 2>fact that it was filmed when you got the news

0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:39.560
<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't shown, and your vulnerability was so beautiful

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:43.479
<v Speaker 2>at the reunion that I advocated for you to come back.

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I said, look, Carlos King can't even admit as he's

0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 2>watching the show, like I don't look I felt this way.

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:52.680
<v Speaker 2>But that's to me, Anna Marie. That's the beauty of

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:56.120
<v Speaker 2>being a viewer. How you're you know, you're only as

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 2>good as your last episode for sure, right that that's

0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 2>the beauty of reality television. And I was telling my

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:05.919
<v Speaker 2>listeners that, you know, I want her to come back.

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I think she deserves a second chance. She's so beautiful,

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and she was able to show us a side of

0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 2>her that we just didn't see. And I said, and

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I felt like she wasn't given the proper setup because

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:25.640
<v Speaker 2>when a new beinters in the middle of the season,

0:59:25.680 --> 0:59:28.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of pressure because you're only doing that

0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:31.560
<v Speaker 2>truly because nothing's happening, and it's sort of.

0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Like, well, God makes some should happen, like you know, damn.

0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:39.800
<v Speaker 2>So I felt that, well, maybe she'll get another season

0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 2>because we're able to see that.

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you think that as well?

0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 2>So you thought I'm going to give me another season

0:59:50.360 --> 0:59:51.760
<v Speaker 2>after the reunion wrapped.

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:55.480
<v Speaker 3>I did, I really did. And for a couple of reasons,

0:59:55.960 --> 0:59:58.919
<v Speaker 3>like you touched on, you didn't see me, you didn't

0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:02.320
<v Speaker 3>see me and my family, you didn't see me as

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:05.720
<v Speaker 3>a mom. You didn't see me and my husband and

1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:09.040
<v Speaker 3>our like hysterical dynamic. You don't see me at work.

1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:12.280
<v Speaker 3>You don't see me working out, don't. You don't even

1:00:12.360 --> 1:00:14.040
<v Speaker 3>see me one on one with any of the ladies.

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:16.800
<v Speaker 3>You don't see me at lunch with anybody individually. You

1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:19.360
<v Speaker 3>don't see me bonding with anybody. You don't see me

1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:22.280
<v Speaker 3>having fun with anybody. You don't see me. You don't

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.160
<v Speaker 3>see you don't see my personality, right, don't. You don't

1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:28.120
<v Speaker 3>know my story? You don't You don't know where I'm from.

1:00:28.480 --> 1:00:30.360
<v Speaker 3>You don't you don't know my mom just passed away.

1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 3>You don't know I have adoption trauma, Like you know

1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:36.720
<v Speaker 3>nothing about me. So you know I did. I really

1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 3>thought that I would be back for another season. I

1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:44.880
<v Speaker 3>felt like it would be really I thought it would

1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 3>be really redeeming, and I thought that it would be

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:51.520
<v Speaker 3>really fun because I was like, you know what, I

1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:56.440
<v Speaker 3>went into this with two weeks in two weeks, didn't

1:00:56.680 --> 1:01:00.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, didn't really have like a bear ring, just

1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:02.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of like all right, let's go, you know. And

1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:04.600
<v Speaker 3>so now that you've you know, you've done a season,

1:01:04.840 --> 1:01:07.360
<v Speaker 3>you've done a full cycle or whatever you want to

1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:09.600
<v Speaker 3>call it. You know you you kind of know how

1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:11.440
<v Speaker 3>it is. You know how it works. Now, you know

1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:14.480
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, and you know the kinds of things

1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:19.200
<v Speaker 3>to advocate for yourself, to to put out there right,

1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:23.160
<v Speaker 3>like I don't care about it's suddens esophagus. I could

1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:26.280
<v Speaker 3>not care less, could not care less.

1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:27.160
<v Speaker 1>By the way about.

1:01:29.160 --> 1:01:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay see, and I'm sorry.

1:01:30.720 --> 1:01:34.560
<v Speaker 2>So then you really were mad, Like no, I'm because

1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm a viewer.

1:01:35.800 --> 1:01:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we like listen, we like silly like beefs and

1:01:39.200 --> 1:01:41.919
<v Speaker 1>but it was. And that's the thing is I think

1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that's serious.

1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:46.000
<v Speaker 2>So I went back then Nicole and who I Love

1:01:46.080 --> 1:01:49.520
<v Speaker 2>by the way, and Tiffany Moon, and I was lying.

1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:52.160
<v Speaker 1>The ASA, what is happening again? It was it was

1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a funny housewipe y be.

1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:54.200
<v Speaker 2>It was.

1:01:54.520 --> 1:01:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Well.

1:01:54.800 --> 1:01:57.720
<v Speaker 3>I think it would have been funny had it come

1:01:58.040 --> 1:02:03.760
<v Speaker 3>from somebody like the Hilton or Sutton, right, But when

1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:07.440
<v Speaker 3>it's coming from me, a black woman, I'm a black

1:02:07.480 --> 1:02:11.560
<v Speaker 3>healthcare professional. We get beaten up all day long, beaten

1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:13.440
<v Speaker 3>up all day it's not funny. It's not funny when

1:02:13.440 --> 1:02:15.800
<v Speaker 3>it comes from me, right, It's not funny when it

1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:19.760
<v Speaker 3>comes from me. That's why you know, I got Crystal

1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:23.760
<v Speaker 3>was attacking my profession. Those other ladies you mentioned were

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:27.640
<v Speaker 3>attacking my profession. The ASA was attacking me. I got like,

1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:32.360
<v Speaker 3>I got attacked from so many angles. And yes, I

1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:34.120
<v Speaker 3>think it would have been funny had it come from

1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:37.080
<v Speaker 3>somebody else, but not coming from a black healthcare professional.

1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I am too big of a target.

1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Never looked at it that way. If Kathy Hilton, who

1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I love by the way, Yeah, she's hilarious.

1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:46.760
<v Speaker 2>She's hilarious, if she would have said something about that,

1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:49.600
<v Speaker 2>or because it's the shtick of it all. And that's

1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:51.840
<v Speaker 2>why me as are like, oh this is funny, silly, whatever,

1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:53.520
<v Speaker 2>because it's hard for me to take vitamins.

1:02:53.520 --> 1:02:56.439
<v Speaker 1>That's how small my shit is. Yeah, So I never

1:02:56.520 --> 1:02:57.400
<v Speaker 1>looked at it that way.

1:02:57.640 --> 1:03:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, girls, I have not. I did not have problems,

1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:01.520
<v Speaker 2>not any one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I never looked at it that way. It wasn't what

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<v Speaker 2>was said. It was the messenger. It said it was

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<v Speaker 2>a black woman, a healthcare profession.

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<v Speaker 3>And somebody who's new. And I don't. I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>anything to balance it out. You don't know me any

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<v Speaker 3>other way. You know, I don't. I don't have a

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<v Speaker 3>personal story. You don't see me at home. With my family, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's all you see. If this maybe if this

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<v Speaker 3>was my second season and that happened, and you had

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<v Speaker 3>already gotten a sense of who I was as a person,

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<v Speaker 3>and then that happened, you'd be like, oh, this is ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 3>but we love her because we love her kids or something.

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<v Speaker 3>But we don't. We don't even have that. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have that. That's all you have. So it's like you

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<v Speaker 3>have this black health care professional coming in there from

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<v Speaker 3>out of nowhere, non stop, NonStop talking about Sutton's esophagus.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course people were mad. Of course I hated it,

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<v Speaker 3>trust me, like nobody hated it more than me. Every

1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:03.880
<v Speaker 3>time I would, I would watched an episode, cringe, cringe,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's still happening, it's still happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, you made iconic moment. The ratings went up

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<v Speaker 2>this season, so thank you that.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen. That was one of Sutton's biggest storylines.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know another thing too, is like who started that?

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<v Speaker 3>Where did that come from? Who brought it up? Kyle?

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle brought it up at her at the dinner or

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<v Speaker 3>the weed dinner at her house. She's the one who

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<v Speaker 3>brought it up. It came from her, right, And but

1:04:40.280 --> 1:04:43.520
<v Speaker 3>it only mattered when I talked about it. Even at

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<v Speaker 3>the reunion, they talked about it, they talked about it

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<v Speaker 3>came from Kyle. Kyle is the one who started that

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<v Speaker 3>whole narrative. But it only mattered when I said it.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, there there were so many things that

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<v Speaker 3>were said about a lot of people, right, like Sutton's

1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:07.800
<v Speaker 3>eating Kyle's. You know, Kyle was body shamed and sober shamed,

1:05:08.400 --> 1:05:12.600
<v Speaker 3>and they were talking about Suttons drinking, right, so many

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<v Speaker 3>things were said. But everybody else has a what do

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<v Speaker 3>you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>They they have what do you call it? Like? A

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<v Speaker 3>like you know them already. Every everybody has a background already, Yeah, everybody,

1:05:30.320 --> 1:05:34.600
<v Speaker 3>everybody's But no, they're just established as themselves to the viewers.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the audience, but the audio.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's established as as a person to the viewers. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying something like, you know, like talking about Sutton's

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<v Speaker 3>putting vodka in or coffee in the morning, like that's

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<v Speaker 3>not cool to say, but we've seen all these other

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<v Speaker 3>things about her and we love her, So that's just

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<v Speaker 3>a drop in the bucket, whereas like my bucket is

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<v Speaker 3>empty and that's all you see dropped in my bucket.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. It's all you see dropped in my bucket,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So, But yeah, it's you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of a lot of things happen, and there's a lot

1:06:11.160 --> 1:06:13.640
<v Speaker 3>of things that you know, I you know I, And

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be the first to say, like, I hated watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>I made tons of mistakes and you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently the Daily Mail reported that you were not being

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<v Speaker 2>asked to come back, and Garcel and Crystal made a

1:06:34.320 --> 1:06:38.480
<v Speaker 2>comment that you were allegedly leg go because of your

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<v Speaker 2>right wing beliefs and that you are a Trump supporter.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a Trump supporter?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a Trump supporter, you know. I When I

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<v Speaker 3>saw that, it just it goes to show you how

1:06:55.200 --> 1:06:59.880
<v Speaker 3>people can say anything they want to and it gets traction.

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<v Speaker 3>We've never even had that conversation. No one's ever even

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<v Speaker 3>asked me about my political views and beliefs. But for

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<v Speaker 3>the record, I'm not a Trump supporter. But I do

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<v Speaker 3>find it really interesting that they feel like they get

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<v Speaker 3>to bully someone into deciding who they vote for. Like

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<v Speaker 3>we're we're this is not a communist country, right, this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is a free country. People can have the

1:07:33.440 --> 1:07:37.160
<v Speaker 3>political beliefs that they want to have, and the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that they use that as as a way to attack

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<v Speaker 3>me and bully me is so it's it's just it's unbelievable. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>it's absolutely unbelievable that we live in a day and

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<v Speaker 3>age where people can be bullied for their for their beliefs.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, you know, it goes back to that pandering

1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:07.040
<v Speaker 3>and that virtue signaling. Ask them what they are, who

1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:09.840
<v Speaker 3>do they support? I don't know, we've never talked about

1:08:09.880 --> 1:08:13.840
<v Speaker 3>that before, but for them to just blindly say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to call you a mega Trump supporter.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's have a real conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, this is a high affluent town, Billy Hills is right.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I'm pretty sure a lot of them are Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's okay. It's so unfortunate because it's like, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't watch.

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<v Speaker 1>These shows to to care about that. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I watch the view to get my political information. I

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<v Speaker 2>only want to know that I don't I don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about what he does at home. I don't want to

1:08:48.600 --> 1:08:50.520
<v Speaker 2>see Sonny Houston and her kids fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to understand the political views of these women.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't watch host wise who care about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So for that to be a quote, it's sort of like, again,

1:08:58.240 --> 1:08:59.719
<v Speaker 2>is this pandering to the audience.

1:09:00.800 --> 1:09:01.720
<v Speaker 1>But what the thing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say is a large part of the audience

1:09:06.040 --> 1:09:08.880
<v Speaker 2>have said we don't care, right.

1:09:09.400 --> 1:09:13.439
<v Speaker 3>And it's so funny since that came out, how many

1:09:13.520 --> 1:09:19.080
<v Speaker 3>people have come out in support of that, saying good

1:09:19.160 --> 1:09:22.519
<v Speaker 3>for you for standing on your beliefs and not being

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<v Speaker 3>railroaded into just thinking or saying what everybody wants you

1:09:28.280 --> 1:09:31.400
<v Speaker 3>to say, right, Like, thank you for being a woman

1:09:31.640 --> 1:09:36.120
<v Speaker 3>with your own mind who actually speaks their opinions and

1:09:36.160 --> 1:09:40.120
<v Speaker 3>doesn't just pander and say what people want you to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I really think that that's the problem, people just

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<v Speaker 3>bullying other people into doing what they think the masses

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<v Speaker 3>want to hear. And again that goes back to the

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<v Speaker 3>authenticity part. Just be yourself, be authentic.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, How did you find out you weren't coming back

1:09:58.439 --> 1:10:00.679
<v Speaker 2>to the Real Housewives of Billian They.

1:10:00.520 --> 1:10:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Called me, The producer called you, uh yeah, huh.

1:10:04.960 --> 1:10:10.920
<v Speaker 2>And just said we're going and we're yeah, like we're sorry, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you were shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>I was quite shocked. Yes, yeah, Like I said, I

1:10:15.120 --> 1:10:20.839
<v Speaker 3>really thought that because I wasn't introduced. I wasn't shown

1:10:21.320 --> 1:10:25.320
<v Speaker 3>apart from talking about sons esophagus that I thought that

1:10:25.360 --> 1:10:30.800
<v Speaker 3>I would have, you know, another season to do what

1:10:31.040 --> 1:10:35.080
<v Speaker 3>I thought I was brought there to do, which was

1:10:35.560 --> 1:10:44.280
<v Speaker 3>to show Black Wealth a solid black, loving, happy, hilarious

1:10:44.320 --> 1:10:47.559
<v Speaker 3>family unit. Right Like I really thought that that's why

1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:51.840
<v Speaker 3>I was brought to the show. And so I was like, Okay, well,

1:10:51.920 --> 1:10:55.559
<v Speaker 3>you know they didn't show it here. So that's what

1:10:55.680 --> 1:10:57.400
<v Speaker 3>next year is going to be about for me. It's

1:10:57.439 --> 1:11:02.200
<v Speaker 3>going to be about me, me being seen and shown.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know how I was so open and honest

1:11:08.000 --> 1:11:12.400
<v Speaker 3>and vulnerable with the stuff with my mom and like

1:11:12.439 --> 1:11:14.920
<v Speaker 3>all my adoption trauma and you know, wanting to find

1:11:16.040 --> 1:11:18.840
<v Speaker 3>my biological father. Like that's that's really the stuff that

1:11:18.880 --> 1:11:23.800
<v Speaker 3>I was wanting to show next year, and so that's

1:11:23.920 --> 1:11:27.280
<v Speaker 3>why I was so I was like devastated. I was

1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:30.800
<v Speaker 3>really really hurt when I found out I wasn't going

1:11:30.880 --> 1:11:32.080
<v Speaker 3>to be coming back, because then I was like, well

1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:34.320
<v Speaker 3>then why was I here? Right? Like, I don't care

1:11:34.360 --> 1:11:36.640
<v Speaker 3>about science ofesophagus, So why am I here? You know,

1:11:36.840 --> 1:11:40.519
<v Speaker 3>I like I have this. I'm such a happy person,

1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:46.760
<v Speaker 3>you know I am. I really stand for authenticity and

1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:52.760
<v Speaker 3>truth and positivity and supporting people and motivating people and

1:11:52.760 --> 1:12:00.160
<v Speaker 3>inspiring people. And that is what I will always make

1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:04.160
<v Speaker 3>sure is put out when it has to do with

1:12:04.280 --> 1:12:10.679
<v Speaker 3>me going forward, because I feel like my life story

1:12:10.720 --> 1:12:16.639
<v Speaker 3>is too important, you know, and I won't I won't

1:12:16.640 --> 1:12:21.880
<v Speaker 3>do anything that doesn't that doesn't serve me in that way.

1:12:23.960 --> 1:12:26.000
<v Speaker 3>So I, like I said, I was really excited to

1:12:26.680 --> 1:12:32.360
<v Speaker 3>show to show people that representation of Beverly Hills a reputation,

1:12:32.520 --> 1:12:39.000
<v Speaker 3>a representation of a strong, wealthy black family unit that

1:12:39.040 --> 1:12:40.080
<v Speaker 3>they've never seen before.

1:12:42.280 --> 1:12:47.559
<v Speaker 1>So what's next for you? Because everything happens for a reason.

1:12:47.640 --> 1:12:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Everything happens for a reason, absolutely, And you know, in

1:12:51.840 --> 1:12:57.960
<v Speaker 3>light of that another you know, you can call it

1:12:58.000 --> 1:13:01.200
<v Speaker 3>an attack, you can call it bullying. That that stuff

1:13:01.240 --> 1:13:05.160
<v Speaker 3>in the daily mail, with the quotations from Garcela and

1:13:05.240 --> 1:13:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Crystal all over the place. You know, I really feel

1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:14.760
<v Speaker 3>like it was my mom. I feel like it was

1:13:14.760 --> 1:13:18.880
<v Speaker 3>my mom. I think she was protecting me because I think,

1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:22.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, once you're kind of in the machine, you're like, no,

1:13:22.160 --> 1:13:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I need to make it better. I need to. I

1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:24.600
<v Speaker 3>need to fix it. I need to fix it. I

1:13:24.600 --> 1:13:26.000
<v Speaker 3>need to make it better. I need to. I need

1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:28.559
<v Speaker 3>people to see me, you know, and so I don't.

1:13:28.560 --> 1:13:31.120
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have saved myself. If they had invited me back,

1:13:31.160 --> 1:13:34.280
<v Speaker 3>I would have gone back. And I think it was

1:13:34.360 --> 1:13:39.880
<v Speaker 3>my mom intervening and saying like, honey, you're not good

1:13:39.920 --> 1:13:43.080
<v Speaker 3>for this, like this is this, You're not good for this, honey.

1:13:43.840 --> 1:13:44.120
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:46.680
<v Speaker 1>So.

1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:51.439
<v Speaker 3>But I have a lot of plans. This this is

1:13:51.479 --> 1:13:53.879
<v Speaker 3>You'll see, You'll see. I have a lot of plans.

1:13:54.320 --> 1:14:01.520
<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of things going on, and I'm excited.

1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I just I want to do all

1:14:06.000 --> 1:14:15.080
<v Speaker 3>the things that align with who I am. Positivity, truth, authenticity, inspiration, motivation.

1:14:16.000 --> 1:14:19.240
<v Speaker 3>You know, I've been through so much in my life

1:14:19.400 --> 1:14:22.800
<v Speaker 3>and to be where I am now and have this

1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:28.160
<v Speaker 3>amazing life that I'm so proud of and so lucky

1:14:28.200 --> 1:14:32.759
<v Speaker 3>and so blessed to have. I just want other people

1:14:33.400 --> 1:14:36.600
<v Speaker 3>to know that they can do it too. You know,

1:14:37.200 --> 1:14:39.080
<v Speaker 3>they can do it too. You just need to have

1:14:39.840 --> 1:14:42.719
<v Speaker 3>the right people around you, good support of loving people

1:14:42.760 --> 1:14:47.880
<v Speaker 3>around you, and make good decisions, work hard, and you

1:14:47.920 --> 1:14:49.599
<v Speaker 3>can make anything you want happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I believe that. And the thing is this,

1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:55.559
<v Speaker 2>there's more for you to do. You are such a

1:14:55.600 --> 1:15:00.280
<v Speaker 2>beautiful moment, beautiful spirit. You're very smart, You're accomplished, and

1:15:01.120 --> 1:15:03.599
<v Speaker 2>one thing I would like for you to do because

1:15:04.160 --> 1:15:09.479
<v Speaker 2>when a reality star is not asked to come back,

1:15:09.920 --> 1:15:12.200
<v Speaker 2>they feel like they have to rush and do something right.

1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:15.760
<v Speaker 2>And I love the fact that you are figuring things out.

1:15:16.280 --> 1:15:17.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, you got some irons in the fire, which

1:15:17.920 --> 1:15:21.000
<v Speaker 2>is great. But I would love for you to, like

1:15:21.040 --> 1:15:23.960
<v Speaker 2>you said, your mom is guiding you. Because our mother

1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:28.000
<v Speaker 2>is in heaven. They are our guardian angel. And if

1:15:28.040 --> 1:15:31.040
<v Speaker 2>you sit still and you you what I want you

1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:33.680
<v Speaker 2>to do is to be still and to allow your

1:15:33.720 --> 1:15:36.280
<v Speaker 2>mom to guide you, because that's why she's in heaven.

1:15:36.360 --> 1:15:40.160
<v Speaker 2>She's in heaven to guide you and your sisters. Absolutely, Okay,

1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:43.120
<v Speaker 2>you have to sit still and listen to the voices

1:15:43.200 --> 1:15:45.160
<v Speaker 2>because I do that all the time with my mom.

1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I talk to her every single day and she guides me.

1:15:48.280 --> 1:15:51.160
<v Speaker 2>She told me, like, girl, don't be doing that.

1:15:51.600 --> 1:15:55.200
<v Speaker 1>She calls me girl, Hey, Mom, You're not like girl,

1:15:55.200 --> 1:15:55.639
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing?

1:15:56.240 --> 1:16:00.080
<v Speaker 2>So I would love for you to listen to the

1:16:00.080 --> 1:16:05.439
<v Speaker 2>the voices and to be still. And it's unfortunate because

1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I really want you to come back.

1:16:07.400 --> 1:16:07.840
<v Speaker 1>And I was.

1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Talking to Gerdy from Miami Housewives recently and There's a

1:16:11.520 --> 1:16:14.120
<v Speaker 2>friend of named key Key Bart who is so funny,

1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.280
<v Speaker 2>and I was saying to her, like, people always say,

1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:18.240
<v Speaker 2>like there has to be one black girl on the show,

1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:20.800
<v Speaker 2>and she is like, I hate that, Like, no one

1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:22.960
<v Speaker 2>says there has to be one white woman on the show.

1:16:23.360 --> 1:16:27.479
<v Speaker 2>It's always the minorities. And you are such a great

1:16:27.880 --> 1:16:31.640
<v Speaker 2>juxtaposition of Garcell and the best way possible in the

1:16:31.680 --> 1:16:34.600
<v Speaker 2>sense of we get to see another side of the

1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:38.599
<v Speaker 2>black experience in Beverly Hills, and I feel sad for

1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:42.120
<v Speaker 2>us as a community that we won't be able to

1:16:42.720 --> 1:16:45.800
<v Speaker 2>see that. So obviously, when you're not coming back.

1:16:45.680 --> 1:16:47.439
<v Speaker 1>You are a large part of the.

1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Storyline this season, So I want to congratulate you on

1:16:50.760 --> 1:16:55.040
<v Speaker 2>the ratings increasing and being the most watched season since

1:16:55.120 --> 1:16:57.400
<v Speaker 2>my season of The Real Housewise at Atlanta.

1:16:58.320 --> 1:16:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much.

1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Without you being there, what do you think these girls'

1:17:02.640 --> 1:17:04.040
<v Speaker 2>storylines are going to be.

1:17:04.840 --> 1:17:08.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, Crystal's never had one, so without me,

1:17:08.400 --> 1:17:13.920
<v Speaker 3>she's definitely not gonna have one at all. I hope that,

1:17:14.240 --> 1:17:17.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, I hope for Kyle that she I really

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<v Speaker 3>hope she finds peace, you know, whether her and Mauricio

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<v Speaker 3>make it or whatever. She chooses to do going forward

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<v Speaker 3>that makes her happy. I just hope she finds peace

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<v Speaker 3>me too, I hope to read in p k R Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I know they you know, they've been going through a

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<v Speaker 3>rough patch. So I hope that they are able to

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<v Speaker 3>keep their relationship together and strong. And I truly hope

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<v Speaker 3>that she's not too, you know, emotionally scarred or damaged

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<v Speaker 3>from being labeled a racist, because she's not. She's a

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<v Speaker 3>really sweet lady. I hope that Erica she had a

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<v Speaker 3>great season. She she I feel like she was shining.

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<v Speaker 3>Her performance was amazing. She's revitalized her career. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just hope she keeps going along that path. And just

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<v Speaker 3>hope she just keeps shining. Sudden, you know, I hope

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<v Speaker 3>her and her horse are good her, you know, find

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<v Speaker 3>a man, keep going with your hobby shop, whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do, not the dating app and garcel. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope she. I hope she stops leaning into, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being a bully, because I don't think being a bully

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<v Speaker 3>is a good look for her. So I hope that

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<v Speaker 3>she kind of backs away from that a bit. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I hope that she finds love because she

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<v Speaker 3>just keeps talking about her husband from like thirteen years

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<v Speaker 3>ago or whatever, so you know, I I think that

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<v Speaker 3>would be nice for her.

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