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Speaker 2: Reality with the King podcast is going on tour. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,

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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most.

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Speaker 2: Sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 2: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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Speaker 2: the King, We'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 2: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgetable

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Speaker 2: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about.

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Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: I have talked about this woman recently on my podcast

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Speaker 2: doing the reunion of Real House spotsor Billy Hills, and

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy she said yes when I reach out

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Speaker 2: to her, like, girl, I want to talk to you

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Speaker 2: because you know, I'm not al thot some some you

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Speaker 2: know as I'm watching the show, so please give it

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Speaker 2: up with them, beautiful ten across the board.

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Speaker 1: Bitch Aunt Marie Wiley for.

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Speaker 3: Having me, Carlos excited to be here. Thank you. Okay, wait,

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Speaker 3: first I have to say, Anna Marie, Anna Marie, Anna Marie.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're here. We're gonna clarify something. So it's

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Speaker 2: Anna Marie, Anna Marie not an eight point five.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So let's go into that. Okay, So okay, this

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Speaker 3: is how I approach that. I was an athlete growing up, right,

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Speaker 3: and so I'm like, I'm never gonna have a coach

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Speaker 3: that's like you're perfect. Everything you do is perfect, there's

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Speaker 3: no room for improvement. You had a perfect game. My

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Speaker 3: mindset is like there's always room for improvement. You can

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Speaker 3: always be better, you can always create a better version

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Speaker 3: of yourself. And so one of the things that like

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Speaker 3: I love about my husband and we play off each

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Speaker 3: other really well in this regard is that we always

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Speaker 3: we have that kind of relationship. He's never gonna be like, oh, babe,

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Speaker 3: you're perfect. Everything you do is perfect, and like, you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't need to do anything better. He's like he's

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Speaker 3: honest with me. I'm honest with him, and that's why

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Speaker 3: I love him because I'm like I never have to

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Speaker 3: guess if anything that he's telling me is true because

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Speaker 3: I'm like, if he's like you're in eight point five,

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Speaker 3: I know he's telling me the truth.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: If that's stunning on me, I know it really does,

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Speaker 3: because he's not just pandering to me. He's not just

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Speaker 3: pandering saying what he thinks I need to hear. And like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I have healthy self esteem like that, like

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't need to be perfect. Nobody's perfect.

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Speaker 3: Nothing's perfect. You can always be.

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Speaker 1: Better, No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing about you because when I'm watch

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Speaker 2: so intrigued because it's not easy, and trust me, I

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Speaker 2: Easy for a newbie to enter a shell that's been

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's like, let's bring it all the way back.

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Speaker 3: Let's start from like the very beginning. So I'm biracial.

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Speaker 2: Did you have any black women that were like your mentors,

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Speaker 3: So my mom, she used to do my hair when

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Speaker 3: Like I just there was there was no one ten

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Speaker 2: Do you have any desire to find and your biological parents?

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Speaker 3: So I didn't. Growing up, my older sister was also adopted.

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Speaker 3: I don't care either, Like, and my family is wonderful.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in the most loving, huge Indonesian family,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, thank you.

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Speaker 3: After that happened, I've my curiosity is kind of grown.

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Speaker 3: And my older sister in I guess about three months

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm like, I want to give sister

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Speaker 3: Si?

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Speaker 3: I think you should do it. He's like, I think

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Speaker 3: Right after that, I did my casting tape maybe two

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Speaker 3: What Yeah, So they had already been filming for six

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Speaker 1: Did you want the show? Prior to being on.

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Speaker 1: What is happening? What am I about to do?

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Speaker 3: That was it. It happened very fast and fully, fully

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Speaker 2: What's funny is again me being a producer. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: for sure, So I knew the moment you were inserted. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I said, nothing was happening the first couple of weeks clearly,

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Speaker 1: Said, I need to get paid really, yes, didn't tell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, yes, She's like, you know, and I was like, well, girl,

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Speaker 2: nothing must be happening then. And then when I'm watching

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, And what I enjoyed about you is

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Speaker 1: The camera does love you.

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Speaker 2: You're very comfortable, and that's a very intimidating crowd to

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Speaker 2: be around. I mean, to be at a dinner with

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what are we talking? What exactly? Confused?

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Speaker 2: Did you get inserted because nothing was happening and they

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer that, but you know,

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Speaker 3: and they, I mean, they had a reason for having

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Speaker 3: exactly what that is. I feel like, you know, I

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Speaker 3: you know what the reason was, because I don't think

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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever feel like you were there to fill

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. Really I felt like

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Speaker 3: was about how she has this big, full life. You know,

435
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 3: she has a famous husband, she has a career, she

436
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: is a philanthropist with a foundation, she has four children.

437
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: Like they just kept talking about this big, full life

438
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: that I had. And so that was actually the reason

439
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: that I thought that I was, you know, inserted into

440
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 3: the cast, because I thought that they, you know, wanted

441
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: to show a different element, you know. I thought they

442
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: wanted to show somebody that, you know, could could kind

443
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: of check a lot of boxes and fill a lot

444
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: of spaces and kind of maneuver through the girls and

445
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: the dynamics. Because I'm a people person, like I can

446
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 3: get along with anybody, literally anybody. And when you say that,

447
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: it seemed like I was really comfortable when I came

448
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 3: in and I was at that dinner. It's like, I mean,

449
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: I'm around a lot of famous people, a lot, right,

450
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 3: Like it is, it's never been about me, but I've

451
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: always I've been around it for twelve years, you know,

452
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: So it wasn't it wasn't an intimidating thing in that regard.

453
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: And you know, going back to when we were talking about,

454
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: you know, me moving here and me finding my identity

455
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: and really finding my voice, like all that really really

456
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 3: hard work that I had to do on myself really

457
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,719
Speaker 3: gave me a strong sense of who I am. And

458
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 3: so there aren't many situations that I really feel uncomfortable.

459
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 3: And because I've lived that, you know, I had twenty

460
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 3: years of feeling uncomfortable and I'm like now I'm like,

461
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm grounded in who I am. So there, So it

462
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: was I didn't feel and I didn't feel or uncomfortable

463
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: walking into that group of ladies, and I thought that

464
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: I thought that that's what the show wanted to highlight.

465
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 2: Well, now I was excited when you were announced because

466
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: the thing about the show that I felt was missing

467
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: is we want to see a wealthy black family, you know,

468
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: black husband, black wife, black kids. That's right, you know,

469
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: like we desire and by we, I'm speaking of the community, right,

470
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 2: we decide to see, like we want to see a

471
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 2: wealthy black.

472
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 3: Fa you know this is this is Beverly Hills. Yeah,

473
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: black wealth, minority. Wealth is everywhere everywhere. Yeah, because y'all

474
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: are wealthy. Yeah, I'm also very humble. I'm just gonna

475
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: put that right out there, like I yes, yes we

476
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: are wealthy, but I've I'm not the person that's going

477
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: to be like, you know, I know this person, and

478
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 3: I know this person, and these are my circles and

479
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: this is what I have. Like you know, when we

480
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: were when we were filming, like what is what's the

481
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 3: most expensive thing your husband's ever bought you? And I

482
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not going to answer that, do you know,

483
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 3: because that's just not it's just not my personality, do

484
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You can look at my

485
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 3: lifestyle and you can see what I have, But I'm

486
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: not the person that's going to be like, you know what,

487
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: what's that? What is that thing? They say, like, h

488
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: what is it? Confidence is quiet?

489
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Like something like yeah, no, it's it's yeah, it's somebody

490
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: tell me mel.

491
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: It's something like money's loud, but confidence is quiet. It's

492
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: something along those lines. Whereas when you have a lot

493
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: of money. You don't brag about it. It's sort of

494
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: like if you can, you can. You can see when

495
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: someone has it doesn't have to tell you, and when

496
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: your confidence is quiet because people you know that they

497
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: see it.

498
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: And that's what we saw with you.

499
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: And we have a mutual friend in comment because they

500
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: had His name is Justin Goodron.

501
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: I think he's friends with George.

502
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh yay. Oh, I

503
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: love him too much.

504
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: I know that.

505
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've been For instance, I was an intern alabet

506
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: back in like two thousand and like five.

507
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: I can't and he and I are super closed.

508
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: And he posted in his stories you had a premiere party, yes,

509
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, you know them, and he said, Lows,

510
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: they are good people.

511
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna I want to.

512
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: I want the world to know because my mutual friend

513
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: and his wife they were at your house and he

514
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: said to me, prior to even us watching you on

515
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: the show, He's like, you're gonna love them, Carlos, because

516
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: they are good people and they're funny and they have it.

517
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: So I want the world to know that there's people

518
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: in my life who I trust that has.

519
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: Said nothing but great things about you and your family.

520
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I that's one thing I will braag about.

521
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: I'll brag about my family. Like are we we are?

522
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: We are? We are? We are good people. My husband

523
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: is the most intelligent, kind hearted individual I have ever met.

524
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: Like he what he does for me, what he does

525
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: for our children, what he does for the community, the

526
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: kids that benefit from our foundation, all the kids he mentors,

527
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: the kids he coaches. He is the most stand up person.

528
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: And that's why I married him. I'm like, I want that.

529
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: I literally I want to be like him, and that's

530
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: why I'm with him. And I wanted that from my children,

531
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: you know, again, not having you know, that strong black

532
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: community growing up in I was like, there there are

533
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: things that I can't teach my children. And I know

534
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 3: that because I don't even know them yet. I need

535
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: a man that is going to be so strong and

536
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: so steadfast that he can instill in my offspring those

537
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: things that I don't even have. That's why I chose him.

538
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: But we we are. We are the people Like now

539
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: that you're friends with my friends, we're friends. Like yeah,

540
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: that's odd, seriously, Like you're coming over to play put.

541
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: The wall tomorrow?

542
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: Like that is that is the Wileys. We call our

543
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: house Wiley's World. If we have mutual friends, you're my

544
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: friend because it's like you're vetted, do you know what

545
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: I mean? And that's how we approach like everybody. That's

546
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: why you won't find anybody that has that, anybody that

547
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: knows us, you won't find anybody that has anything bad

548
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: to say about it, because we pride ourselves on being

549
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: good people because that's just who we are. We are

550
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: very honest, We're very honest. We love having fun, we

551
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: love people. We always have people over at our house

552
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: like we just so yeah, I'll brag about my family

553
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 3: all day. But you know, and going back to like

554
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 3: the money piece and everything, it's like, you know, like

555
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: I know billionaires who walk around in T shirts you

556
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like you know you know what

557
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: I mean, Like you know, like the most famous people

558
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: in the world are not doing that, Like why would

559
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: I that? And that's just because it's my reality and

560
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: so you know, when we're at the reunion, it was

561
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: so funny when Andy asked that question. He was talking

562
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: about Sutton's income from her her spousal support and then

563
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: he's like, Anri, what do you think about that, and

564
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: I was like, Andy, why are you asking you that question?

565
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: He's like, that's what he does, but you know, and

566
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: my answer was that, you know, like that's just not

567
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: that's not what me and my circles do, cause it's like, why,

568
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 3: it's your reality, So why would you do it? You

569
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, I don't know you can

570
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: see it. If you can see it, then why do

571
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: I have to stay with you?

572
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: Honey?

573
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: We saw it, But what we did see, Anna Marie,

574
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: we did not get a chance to see any house

575
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: reality with you.

576
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: We did not.

577
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: Were you taping scenes your husband and your family at

578
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: home a ton that we just never saw a ton?

579
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: Why weren't we able to see these scenes?

580
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

581
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: When you talk about the fact that your announcement was leaked,

582
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: what was also leaked were these uncoverings of people saying

583
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: that your husband was saying transphobic comments. Did that have

584
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: anything to do with these scenes being cut out?

585
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but I'm you know, I am

586
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: so happy to address that. And I also want to

587
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: make it very clear that calling someone transphobic is a

588
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: very hurtful, very disgusting, and very damaging thing to say.

589
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm not transphobic. I support the trans community, I support

590
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: trans rights, I support women's sports. No one is transphobic.

591
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: So we you know, we did we did film that, and.

592
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: You guys filmed the conversation about the transphobic work we did.

593
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did, really, yes, and I who all the ladies.

594
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: It was all of us together, the housewives, all the

595
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: housewives together. We filmed this, and you know, it was

596
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: literally hours and hours of me being badgered and attacked

597
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: on on this this topic. And you know, my my

598
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: stance was, and I was very clear about it, didn't

599
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: shy away from it at all, was that, you know,

600
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: the issue arises because of the topic of transgendered female

601
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: athletes competing in sports with cisgendered female athletes. And you

602
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: know my husband's stance on it is that he, you know,

603
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 3: is not in support of it. He's in support of

604
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: their being safe spaces for everybody, and and I agree

605
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: with that. And you know, so we we talked about this.

606
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: You know, I said things like, you know, if you're

607
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: comparing hand size, heart size, lung capacity, muscle mass, you know,

608
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 3: all of wingspan, all of those sorts of things, then

609
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: there is going to be an advantage in one over

610
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: the other. And as a female athlete who played, you know,

611
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: for so many years, I can I can see that

612
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: and that's why, you know, that's why I say that,

613
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: you know, And I brought up comparisons to them, you know.

614
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: I was like, Lisa Leslie versus Lebron James, Lisa, I

615
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 3: love you, brother, She's like a dear friend of mine.

616
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: Lisa versus Lebron. Right, I was like, what's going to happen?

617
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 3: Serena versus Djokovic? Right, what's going to happen? Like I think?

618
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: And you know, they none of them were athletes, so

619
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: it's hard to have It was hard to have that

620
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: conversation with them in that regard because I think they

621
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: were just so focused on how is the audience going

622
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: to take this pandering? Right? It was. It was all

623
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: about pander and virtue signaling. There wasn't any you know,

624
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: rational logical conversation behind it, because this isn't something that

625
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 3: they you know, they're just they just want to label

626
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: me as transphobic like that that standing up for women's

627
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: sports and believing that there's a biological difference if someone

628
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: has gone through male puberty, that doesn't make me or

629
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 3: my husband transphobic. We support the trans community, we support

630
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: trans rights, we support women's sports. Right, you know, I

631
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: had there's a there's a video of Serena Williams from

632
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: years ago. She was on I want to say Letterman,

633
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: and you know, she essentially says the same thing too.

634
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: She was talking about I think it was Andy. Andy

635
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: Murray had asked her to play against him, and she's like,

636
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: if I played against Andy, he would beat me six oh,

637
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 3: six oh in like five to six minutes, maybe ten minutes.

638
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: But like, you know, it's it's a difference. It's a

639
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: different sport, right, men's tennis. Women's said, it's a different sport.

640
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: She's like, they're stronger, they're faster, he would destroy me.

641
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: I don't want to play with them. I don't want

642
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: to play with I want to play women's tennis. She

643
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: said this. You can google it.

644
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: Right.

645
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: So, but this was pre this whole issue of or

646
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: topic of transgendered females competing in cystendered sports, and so

647
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: before it was an issue, nobody really cared. But now

648
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: that it's such a big issue, nobody wants to talk

649
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: about it, nobody wants to touch it because look what

650
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 3: happened to us. We get labeled transphobic for doing it

651
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: behind closed doors. Please trust and believe ninety percent of

652
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: people think that way. It's just that we live in

653
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: a society where if you say things like that, you're

654
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 3: going to get quote unquote canceled or labeled or something.

655
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 3: People are so afraid of telling the truth and going

656
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 3: back to who the wilies are? We are truth tellers,

657
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: you know there are There is another housewife that that

658
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 3: even agreed with me. We had this conversation and she agreed,

659
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: she's she agreed with that stance. Oh gurse, I agreed

660
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: with that stands she won't say it publicly, of course,

661
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: but yeah, so you know. And then there was a

662
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: whole nother issue also talked about that night, and something

663
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: floating around from that that recent article saying like, oh,

664
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: you're best friends with Candace Owens and let me we're

665
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 3: gonna let's talk about that. I have never met Candace Owens.

666
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 3: I don't know her. Remember years ago, when that campaign

667
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: came out, there was a fashion designer, a fashion house

668
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 3: that put out a campaign that you know, was basically

669
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: theorized to be like a pedophile you know, a pedophile

670
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: campaign and you know, I'm a mother to four children.

671
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: I was I was outraged. I'm just gonna put that

672
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: out there. I was absolutely outraged when I saw this,

673
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: and I felt like there were a lot of people

674
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: that weren't talking about it. I was, you know, waiting, like,

675
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 3: where's the outrage. This is children we're talking about. This

676
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: is not okay. And Candace Owens was one of the

677
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 3: very few people that I felt like was actually speaking

678
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: out about it. So I started following her on Instagram.

679
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: And from following someone on Instagram to them becoming your

680
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: best friend, it's a very very big space between there.

681
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Who labeled you and Candace Owens as being best.

682
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: Friends when I started filming last year. It's like one

683
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: of you know, the blog site or like I say

684
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: it was it was written. It was a written article

685
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 3: that said, like Anne Marie Wiley, wife of Marcella's Wiley,

686
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: filming for Housewives, and he's transphobic and the Wileys are

687
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: transphobic and she's best friends with Candace Owens. Like that's

688
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 3: where all this stuff came from.

689
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: This Someone on the show addressed the Candace Owens.

690
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: Well yeah, then while Garcel kept saying, well, it was

691
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: the candas o ones of it all for me. And

692
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: when you see the new article that just came out

693
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: a few days ago and with all of the quotes

694
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: from Garcel and Crystal, which I found very suspicious. It

695
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: you know, it went back to when we were at

696
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: the reunion and when I, you know, called out the

697
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 3: double standard or the hypocrisy of Garcel, you know, labeling

698
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: to read a Karen because she used the word attack

699
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: when she talked about her, And when I said, why

700
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 3: is it that when Durte says that to you, it's

701
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 3: not okay? And let me also say this. The first

702
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: thing I said was that I agreed with Garcel. You

703
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: should not call black women angry and you should not

704
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 3: call black women aggressive. I said, I agree with that, Garcel.

705
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: But I also want to point out this, Why is

706
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: it that when Dree does it to you, it's not okay?

707
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: But when Sutton does it to me, no one says anything.

708
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: You didn't you didn't even say anything. You didn't you

709
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: didn't stand up for me, and you didn't say anything.

710
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: What does she say to that?

711
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 2: Because I watched that ever she said, so she never

712
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: never aired the comment.

713
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 3: She that's what she said. She in that article, it

714
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: says what she said. She said, Oh, you want to

715
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: know why because as soon as I found out that

716
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 3: you were best friends with Candace Owens, I decided I

717
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: don't mess with you. You hear that, Bravo, You better

718
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: leave that in Bravo. That's what was said, and you

719
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 3: can read that in that article. That's coming from that article,

720
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: and that's what was said. So again it goes back

721
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: to her, you know, trying to be you know, I'm gonna,

722
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put you out there as the other black

723
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 3: woman who you know is best friends with Candace Owens,

724
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: the woman I've never met before, because I'm gonna I'm

725
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: gonna power to the people that you know.

726
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 2: Correct when you came on the show, do you think

727
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: Garcel wanted to be only black woman on Beverly Hill's Housewives?

728
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 3: I did get that feeling.

729
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: Was she welcoming to you?

730
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: She was? And then she wasn't. She was, And then

731
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: as the show started airing and playing out, and you know,

732
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I'm being portrayed in this light

733
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: and I'm the quote unquote villain at least I think

734
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: I was. Then she wasn't anymore. And then I think

735
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: you know, that's what why you saw or sorry you

736
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: didn't see, but that's why you're hearing now of what

737
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: she said at the reunion, because I think now she's like, well,

738
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: people don't like her anyway, so why do I have

739
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: to stand by her? I don't. I don't need to

740
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: stand by her. So and you know, she was very

741
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: she was very quick too, and I don't. I really

742
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: don't think she liked me pointing out that hypocrisy because

743
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: I think that she's been able to get away with

744
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: unnecessarily playing the race card so many times unchallenged because

745
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: who can challenge her? Right? The other ladies can't challenge her,

746
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: So I think that's been her play for so long.

747
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: So then when I'm there and as a black woman,

748
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 3: I can say, you know what, why didn't you speak

749
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 3: out about my microaggressions or at least support me? And

750
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: she didn't like that, right, she didn't like that at all,

751
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: And so I think that that Sorry, I'm just like

752
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: having a little brain fright here.

753
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I think what you're saying is the

754
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: fact that it was unfortunate because you came on the

755
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: show and obviously you know there's another black woman there again.

756
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: We the audience was excited.

757
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: Yes, Garcell, you have somebody at least yes that can

758
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: relate to you on these issues. And you're telling me

759
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 2: that the stuff we did not see on the show.

760
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: Oftentimes she never wants supported you.

761
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: When it's yeah.

762
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: And I mean we had a great, a great meeting

763
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: together at my house that we that we filmed, and

764
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: it was awesome. You know, we we had all these

765
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: things in common. We really delved into, you know, her

766
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,240
Speaker 3: when she moved here and what that was like for her,

767
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: and when I moved here what that was like for her.

768
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: You know, we have a lot of those sort of

769
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: identity things in common. You know, it was a very

770
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: unique experience for us, both moving here from different countries,

771
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: and so I felt like we really bonded over that.

772
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: But like I said, once the show started playing, she

773
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: you know, she played a different tune and it you

774
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: know when I was watching it back, and all the

775
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: things especially that she would say in her confessionals.

776
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: You know have co Garsell confessional gangsta, yes, but they

777
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: were also like things on confessional but not to your

778
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: face right exactly.

779
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: But then it's like, where is if you're so pro black,

780
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: where is your support for your sister that you were supporting,

781
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 3: but now you're not behind her back?

782
00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Like?

783
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 3: Where did that? Where did that go? You know? Why

784
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: are you trying to throw me under the bus with

785
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: this Candace Owens thing that is fabricated out of nowhere

786
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: when we've already discussed and you know that it's not

787
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: a real thing. You know, where where are you supporting

788
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: me when your best friend Sutton is you know, a

789
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 3: week after we film the reunion using that exact same

790
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: word attack again on Watch What Happens Live? You know

791
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: it's the exact same thing. She should have gone to

792
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: her friend Sutton and said Sutton not okay to say

793
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 3: she's yelling at you and she's not Sutton. We just

794
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 3: talked about this last week at the reunion. You just

795
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: said that she attacked you on Watch What Happens Live?

796
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: Like it's the same It's the exact same thing, but

797
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: she only wants to call it when it applies to her.

798
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 2: Are those women afraid to go against gar Cell because

799
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: they will be called Karen's a racist?

800
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: I would be if I wasn't black, I would be.

801
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: You see that when you're filming do you see that?

802
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: Do you sense that like they're there. It seems like

803
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: and again, audience member here, it does seem like those

804
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: women do not want to go against Garcel at all

805
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: because they fear of being called a racist.

806
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I don't know that

807
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: for sure. No one's ever said that to me, but

808
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I would feel that way. And

809
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 3: another thing from the reunion, if you look at all

810
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 3: of Garcel's reactions to when Derey was speaking, you know,

811
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: constantly talking under her breath and rolling her eyes and

812
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: kind of doing like the snarky giggle, reverse those roles.

813
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: If that was Deret doing that to Garcel, all hell

814
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: would have broken loose. All hell would have broken loose.

815
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: But she gets the pass, she gets to do that,

816
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: and it's just again the hypocrisies, so many hypocrisies.

817
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: Do you think one of the other reasons why you

818
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: were cast is because maybe you could be the only

819
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 2: one that could have an opinion I mean to Garsel

820
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: and not be called out.

821
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: Of their name.

822
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, absolutely plausible, because it's true. I could

823
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: write and I did. I pointed out that it was

824
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: a double standard, and she got really she got really

825
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 3: angry at it. So but it is true. Like anybody

826
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 3: can see that, right it is. It is true. You're

827
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: calling it one side and not the other. That is

828
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: a double standard.

829
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: I want to get into Crystal for a second. My

830
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: views as a viewer is that I also think Crystal

831
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 2: panned pandas to the audience. Crystal, in my opinion, I

832
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 2: don't get anything genuine from her as I watched the show.

833
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: I don't.

834
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: I don't really care about your brother and his ex girlfriend.

835
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't, I don't care. I'm going to

836
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 2: tell you what I care about again. Producer did nine

837
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: seasons of Atlanta Housewives, two of Jersey, Like, I kind.

838
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: Of know what I'm talking about here. I don't care

839
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: about your brother and his ex girlfriend crying. I don't,

840
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm gonna give a shit about that.

841
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,959
Speaker 2: You're a housewife and you're holding a diamond, so let's

842
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: invest in your world.

843
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: I really am.

844
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: Intrigued by this marriage that she has. I think her

845
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: husband seems like a great guy. I'm so intrigued by

846
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: this so his life, you know, being involved in Lion King,

847
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: and you know it came out that Crystal has this,

848
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: you know, multi million dollar business with water. I believe

849
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: it is, but we don't see none of those things.

850
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm so curious about how one person can lose fourteen

851
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 2: friends within a weekend. I'm so intrigued by that. But

852
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't get any of those things from her. I get.

853
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: I get phony baloney, and not Oscar Mayer. So, as

854
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 2: you're filming with her and we saw seasoned, I want

855
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: to address this as a.

856
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Viewer and a producer.

857
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: I won thousand percent believe she called those women uneducated.

858
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: I watched the show when Crystal, in her mind, is

859
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: telling her truth. I do believe one hundred percent that

860
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Crystal did believe sudden walking to her room was a violation.

861
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: I believe that because she has such passion for it

862
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: that I was like, I didn't think she did intentionally,

863
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: but Crystal is so believable in her passion. I'm ot

864
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: at you, Sis, that's your passion, and I believe it.

865
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: When you said, no, Sis, you call these women uneducated

866
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: and saw all these things, she gave you nothing, And

867
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, wait a second, this woman is

868
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: now pretty much saying things that could question your character.

869
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: And you don't have anything to say. So I said,

870
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: oh Anna, Marie's telling the truth. Girlfriend, she told you

871
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: this right, Yeah.

872
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 3: Of course she did.

873
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: What who makes that up? Like?

874
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: Why already said, like, I don't I don't lie. Like

875
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: you know, I made a lot of mistakes doing this show,

876
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: but like one thing I don't do is I don't lie.

877
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: Why would I make that up? And it's such a

878
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: specific thing. So Crystal and I met around the same

879
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 3: time Kyle and I met the Holidays, about three months

880
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: before this all happened, and we met. We have we

881
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: have a bunch of mutual friends, and we met at.

882
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: A the fourteen she lost on the fourth, well, I

883
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: know a couple of those fourteen two like one question

884
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: that we'll move on. Is it true that some of

885
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: those fourteen friends.

886
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: Left her because when Housewives called them to do the

887
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: show Crystal Carlos I heard allegedly that those fourteen friends,

888
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: maybe thirteen or twelve of them were called to do

889
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: the real house spots of Belly Hills, and that Crystal

890
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: told them not to do the show. But when Crystal

891
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: got the phone call, she never told those fourteen friends

892
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: and she did the show anyway.

893
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: Is that true?

894
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 3: You're very smart, You're very smart. Okay, yeah, continue, yep,

895
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 3: you're very smart. So we met and our conversation went

896
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 3: as follows. You know, our friend introduced us and I'm like,

897
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: what do you do? She's like, I'm a housewife, which

898
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: like she denied, well because like she's very she loves

899
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 3: being a housewife. That girl loves being a housewife. Let

900
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: me tell you she loves being a house It is her.

901
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 3: She loves being a housewife.

902
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: Okay, a housepot, but belly Hills, not a housewife inside

903
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: the house.

904
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: With the nanny.

905
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Like the show is like, is she this

906
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: girl was gonna fight tooth and nail to keep her diamond.

907
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: Let we we'll get into that. So she's like, I'm

908
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: a housewife, and I was like, oh yeah, And you know,

909
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: you go into the regular questions like are you guys

910
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: really friends, like the same thing people would ask me, right,

911
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: you guys really friends? You guys hang out all that

912
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. And then she's like what do you do?

913
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: And I said I am a nurse anesthetist, and then

914
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: she kind of looked at me puzzled like this, and

915
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: then I said I do anesthesia and then she goes, oh,

916
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: She's like, my sister is an anethesioldist, and I was like, oh, yes, perfect,

917
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: she'll know what I do then, because do you know

918
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 3: what a nurse anesthetist is or a nurse anetheysiologist?

919
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: You do me?

920
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

921
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: Do you know?

922
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: No? I know.

923
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. We'll get into that.

924
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: We'll get into that too. So that's a whole as

925
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: you saw, that's a whole nother can of worms. So

926
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: that was that conversation. And then so then you see

927
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 3: on the show where she's like, well, you called yourself

928
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: a doctor. She say doctor or antis olgist or something

929
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 3: like that, and I was like, I'm a board certified

930
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: nurse anesetis and like that's what I told you. So

931
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 3: she made that up. And this is the funny thing too,

932
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: is we've seen it. You watch watch the show. Right,

933
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: as Denise said, watch the show, you can see when

934
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: she you know, she's got that whole thing about her

935
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 3: fourteen friends, she's got last season or whatever it was,

936
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: where you know, she went a whole it's a whole

937
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: season right of implying that Sutton was racist because she

938
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 3: said something so dark, she left He's that Sutton was

939
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: so racist for a year and then finally said, Oh,

940
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 3: it's just a feeling like that. And then now this

941
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: thing with me misrepresenting my title, so now let's go

942
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 3: into this. She she really she knew that her time

943
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: was like, you know, getting cut short. She needed to

944
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: really bring it and she you know, who better to

945
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: like go at than the newbie who? And I I

946
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: thought that was my girl. Like, as soon as I

947
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: got cast, got her number from a friend of ours,

948
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: called her up. We had this like hour and a

949
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: half long conversation. I thought she was like really going

950
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: to have my back. I was like, Oh, this is

951
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: going to be so great, gonna have fun. We're gonna

952
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: be like, you know, the little Spunky ones or whatever,

953
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: and she and she was really helpful. You know. Before

954
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: we were like going to the weed dinner at Kyle's house.

955
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: I'm texting her what are you wearing? I show her

956
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: what I'm wearing. Oh so cute? Yeah great, great great.

957
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 3: We're in the cars outside waiting to go in. Yeah

958
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: I'm here waiting, you know, we're you know, and then

959
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: but what do you see in the confessional? Oh that

960
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: bitch is nosy. I was like, we were just texting

961
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: from the car, you know what I mean. So she

962
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 3: was a very different person off camera versus on camera.

963
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 3: So I was her opportunity to start that drama. So

964
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: when she so, we're en route to Spain and she

965
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: she told me that she said that, so that she

966
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 3: this is what she said. I walk out of the

967
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 3: Chanelle store. All the girls from the Shanelle store were shopping,

968
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 3: and she's outside and production's out there and there's no

969
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: cameras anything. I walk out and she's acting normal. And

970
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 3: this is like halfway there. We're in like Heathrow or something. Right,

971
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: She's acting normal and we haven't spoken since a week

972
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: before at Duri's event when she called me a B

973
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 3: word and accused me of title misappropriation and or misrepresentation.

974
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: And she she's acting normal. I'm like, Crystal, like, what

975
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: are you doing. I'm like, this is my career, Like

976
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: this isn't funny, you know, And she's like, no, no, no, no, no,

977
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 3: it's fine. Like Lisa Renna used to make up stuff

978
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: all the time. It's totally fine. I'm just so happy

979
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 3: because now I have a storyline, I have my drama

980
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 3: for the year, and I'll get to come back next year. Verbatim, verbatim, verbatim,

981
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: she said we would go to dinner that night and

982
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: we would make up at dinner and everything would be fine.

983
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: And she she never she just kept doubling down, doubling down,

984
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: doubling down all the time, kept doubling down on it,

985
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: and that so that when you see me like not

986
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 3: being able to like let it go, when she's like, oh,

987
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 3: I thought she wouldn't let it go until pigs flew

988
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: like because you're lying about me, and you admitted that

989
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 3: you're lying about me for your benefit, and I trusted

990
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: you was there were a lot of people I trusted

991
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: in this process. I'm a very Canadian, Like I don't know,

992
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm a very trusting person, you know, I don't I

993
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: don't do people wrong in my life, so I don't

994
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 3: expect people to do me wrong. My mistake, I should

995
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: not have assumed that, But I why would I not?

996
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: You know, why why would I assume that someone was

997
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: intentionally wanting to do bad things to me, you know,

998
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 3: or use me for their benefit? You know. But that's

999
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: that's what happened. And she was, you know, she was

1000
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 3: also really the one that was like, you know, leading

1001
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: the whole oh you're transphobic thing, that narrative. She was

1002
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: the one who was like really pushing that as well.

1003
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: And then you know, I brought up to them, I said,

1004
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: you know, if you are so for this cause, I

1005
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 3: was like, do you know what happened today in Florida?

1006
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 3: And keep in mind this is a year ago, and

1007
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 3: everyone's like what?

1008
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, do you know?

1009
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: Since you want a virtue signal and pander so much,

1010
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: do you know what happened today in Florida? And I

1011
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: was like, there was an act passed today in Florida

1012
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 3: that a healthcare professional can can deny care to anybody

1013
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 3: in the LGBTQIA community based on their ethical beliefs. I

1014
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: was like, but you didn't know that, did you. You

1015
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: didn't know that because you don't really care, you're just pandering.

1016
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I know that because I

1017
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: actually do care.

1018
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 2: There has been recently went on social media and we

1019
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: have seen him call Garcel she's a con in the

1020
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: word conflict confused, I mean confused.

1021
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: He he obviously.

1022
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 2: Feels strongly about your experience on the show, and you

1023
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: know the things that these ladies are saying.

1024
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 3: But but but also not really like it's even like

1025
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: I was he he's the guy like he's been doing this,

1026
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 3: he's been in this world for thirty years. Like he's

1027
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: like he's the one, he's the sounding board for me.

1028
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: You know. Even during this whole process, he's like, it's fine,

1029
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: it's TV. Like, calm down, it's TV. You're fine, you

1030
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I think it was more

1031
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,439
Speaker 3: it's just it's a husband defending his wife.

1032
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: That's it.

1033
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: Like he's not emotionally charged by it at all. He's

1034
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: just he's just a husband defending his wife. Which you know,

1035
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: that's what that's what they do.

1036
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: So here we are.

1037
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: This season is wrapped, I said him a podcast after

1038
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: watching part one reunion, I said, rain drops, I feel

1039
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: Anna Marie now, and I said, I feel horrible for

1040
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, saying, like, girls, what was going on with her?

1041
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: I thought you were First of all, you have my

1042
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: complete condolence. Sys when it comes to your mom, thank you.

1043
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: I lost my mother. It changes you forever. Absolutely, the

1044
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: fact that it was filmed when you got the news

1045
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: and it wasn't shown, and your vulnerability was so beautiful

1046
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,479
Speaker 2: at the reunion that I advocated for you to come back.

1047
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: I said, look, Carlos King can't even admit as he's

1048
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: watching the show, like I don't look I felt this way.

1049
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: But that's to me, Anna Marie. That's the beauty of

1050
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: being a viewer. How you're you know, you're only as

1051
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: good as your last episode for sure, right that that's

1052
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: the beauty of reality television. And I was telling my

1053
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 2: listeners that, you know, I want her to come back.

1054
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: I think she deserves a second chance. She's so beautiful,

1055
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: and she was able to show us a side of

1056
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: her that we just didn't see. And I said, and

1057
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: I felt like she wasn't given the proper setup because

1058
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: when a new beinters in the middle of the season,

1059
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: it's a lot of pressure because you're only doing that

1060
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: truly because nothing's happening, and it's sort of.

1061
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: Like, well, God makes some should happen, like you know, damn.

1062
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: So I felt that, well, maybe she'll get another season

1063
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: because we're able to see that.

1064
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: Did you think that as well?

1065
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: So you thought I'm going to give me another season

1066
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 2: after the reunion wrapped.

1067
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 3: I did, I really did. And for a couple of reasons,

1068
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,919
Speaker 3: like you touched on, you didn't see me, you didn't

1069
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: see me and my family, you didn't see me as

1070
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: a mom. You didn't see me and my husband and

1071
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 3: our like hysterical dynamic. You don't see me at work.

1072
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: You don't see me working out, don't. You don't even

1073
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: see me one on one with any of the ladies.

1074
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 3: You don't see me at lunch with anybody individually. You

1075
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: don't see me bonding with anybody. You don't see me

1076
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: having fun with anybody. You don't see me. You don't

1077
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: see you don't see my personality, right, don't. You don't

1078
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: know my story? You don't You don't know where I'm from.

1079
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 3: You don't you don't know my mom just passed away.

1080
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: You don't know I have adoption trauma, Like you know

1081
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: nothing about me. So you know I did. I really

1082
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: thought that I would be back for another season. I

1083
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: felt like it would be really I thought it would

1084
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 3: be really redeeming, and I thought that it would be

1085
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 3: really fun because I was like, you know what, I

1086
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: went into this with two weeks in two weeks, didn't

1087
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: you know, didn't really have like a bear ring, just

1088
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 3: kind of like all right, let's go, you know. And

1089
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 3: so now that you've you know, you've done a season,

1090
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: you've done a full cycle or whatever you want to

1091
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: call it. You know you you kind of know how

1092
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 3: it is. You know how it works. Now, you know

1093
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: what I mean, and you know the kinds of things

1094
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: to advocate for yourself, to to put out there right,

1095
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: like I don't care about it's suddens esophagus. I could

1096
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 3: not care less, could not care less.

1097
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: By the way about.

1098
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 3: Okay see, and I'm sorry.

1099
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: So then you really were mad, Like no, I'm because

1100
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm a viewer.

1101
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we like listen, we like silly like beefs and

1102
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 1: but it was. And that's the thing is I think

1103
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: that's serious.

1104
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: So I went back then Nicole and who I Love

1105
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: by the way, and Tiffany Moon, and I was lying.

1106
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: The ASA, what is happening again? It was it was

1107
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: a funny housewipe y be.

1108
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: It was.

1109
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: Well.

1110
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: I think it would have been funny had it come

1111
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 3: from somebody like the Hilton or Sutton, right, But when

1112
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 3: it's coming from me, a black woman, I'm a black

1113
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 3: healthcare professional. We get beaten up all day long, beaten

1114
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 3: up all day it's not funny. It's not funny when

1115
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 3: it comes from me, right, It's not funny when it

1116
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: comes from me. That's why you know, I got Crystal

1117
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 3: was attacking my profession. Those other ladies you mentioned were

1118
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: attacking my profession. The ASA was attacking me. I got like,

1119
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: I got attacked from so many angles. And yes, I

1120
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: think it would have been funny had it come from

1121
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: somebody else, but not coming from a black healthcare professional.

1122
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 3: I am too big of a target.

1123
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: Never looked at it that way. If Kathy Hilton, who

1124
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: I love by the way, Yeah, she's hilarious.

1125
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: She's hilarious, if she would have said something about that,

1126
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: or because it's the shtick of it all. And that's

1127
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: why me as are like, oh this is funny, silly, whatever,

1128
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: because it's hard for me to take vitamins.

1129
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 1: That's how small my shit is. Yeah, So I never

1130
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: looked at it that way.

1131
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 2: Oh, girls, I have not. I did not have problems,

1132
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: not any one of them.

1133
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: Right.

1134
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: I never looked at it that way. It wasn't what

1135
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: was said. It was the messenger. It said it was

1136
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 2: a black woman, a healthcare profession.

1137
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: And somebody who's new. And I don't. I don't have

1138
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: anything to balance it out. You don't know me any

1139
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 3: other way. You know, I don't. I don't have a

1140
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 3: personal story. You don't see me at home. With my family, right,

1141
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 3: So that's all you see. If this maybe if this

1142
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 3: was my second season and that happened, and you had

1143
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: already gotten a sense of who I was as a person,

1144
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: and then that happened, you'd be like, oh, this is ridiculous,

1145
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 3: but we love her because we love her kids or something.

1146
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: But we don't. We don't even have that. You don't

1147
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 3: have that. That's all you have. So it's like you

1148
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: have this black health care professional coming in there from

1149
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, non stop, NonStop talking about Sutton's esophagus.

1150
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 3: Of course people were mad. Of course I hated it,

1151
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: trust me, like nobody hated it more than me. Every

1152
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: time I would, I would watched an episode, cringe, cringe,

1153
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: like it's still happening, it's still happening.

1154
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: Well, listen, you made iconic moment. The ratings went up

1155
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: this season, so thank you that.

1156
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: Listen. That was one of Sutton's biggest storylines.

1157
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 3: And you know another thing too, is like who started that?

1158
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 3: Where did that come from? Who brought it up? Kyle?

1159
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 3: Kyle brought it up at her at the dinner or

1160
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: the weed dinner at her house. She's the one who

1161
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 3: brought it up. It came from her, right, And but

1162
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: it only mattered when I talked about it. Even at

1163
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: the reunion, they talked about it, they talked about it

1164
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: came from Kyle. Kyle is the one who started that

1165
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 3: whole narrative. But it only mattered when I said it.

1166
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: And you know, there there were so many things that

1167
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: were said about a lot of people, right, like Sutton's

1168
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: eating Kyle's. You know, Kyle was body shamed and sober shamed,

1169
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: and they were talking about Suttons drinking, right, so many

1170
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: things were said. But everybody else has a what do

1171
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 3: you call it?

1172
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: Like?

1173
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 3: They they have what do you call it? Like? A

1174
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: like you know them already. Every everybody has a background already, Yeah, everybody,

1175
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: everybody's But no, they're just established as themselves to the viewers.

1176
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: This is the audience, but the audio.

1177
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 3: Everybody's established as as a person to the viewers. So

1178
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: they're saying something like, you know, like talking about Sutton's

1179
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 3: putting vodka in or coffee in the morning, like that's

1180
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 3: not cool to say, but we've seen all these other

1181
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 3: things about her and we love her, So that's just

1182
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 3: a drop in the bucket, whereas like my bucket is

1183
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: empty and that's all you see dropped in my bucket.

1184
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 3: That's it. It's all you see dropped in my bucket,

1185
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: you know. So, But yeah, it's you know, a lot

1186
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 3: of a lot of things happen, and there's a lot

1187
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 3: of things that you know, I you know I, And

1188
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: I'll be the first to say, like, I hated watching it.

1189
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 3: I made tons of mistakes and you know, yeah.

1190
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 2: Recently the Daily Mail reported that you were not being

1191
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 2: asked to come back, and Garcel and Crystal made a

1192
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 2: comment that you were allegedly leg go because of your

1193
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: right wing beliefs and that you are a Trump supporter.

1194
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: Are you a Trump supporter?

1195
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: I'm not a Trump supporter, you know. I When I

1196
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 3: saw that, it just it goes to show you how

1197
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: people can say anything they want to and it gets traction.

1198
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: We've never even had that conversation. No one's ever even

1199
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: asked me about my political views and beliefs. But for

1200
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 3: the record, I'm not a Trump supporter. But I do

1201
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 3: find it really interesting that they feel like they get

1202
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: to bully someone into deciding who they vote for. Like

1203
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: we're we're this is not a communist country, right, this

1204
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: is this is a free country. People can have the

1205
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 3: political beliefs that they want to have, and the fact

1206
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: that they use that as as a way to attack

1207
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 3: me and bully me is so it's it's just it's unbelievable. Really,

1208
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: it's absolutely unbelievable that we live in a day and

1209
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 3: age where people can be bullied for their for their beliefs.

1210
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: And again, you know, it goes back to that pandering

1211
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: and that virtue signaling. Ask them what they are, who

1212
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: do they support? I don't know, we've never talked about

1213
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 3: that before, but for them to just blindly say, oh,

1214
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 3: we're going to call you a mega Trump supporter.

1215
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,520
Speaker 1: And let's have a real conversation.

1216
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: Right, this is a high affluent town, Billy Hills is right.

1217
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm pretty sure a lot of them are Republicans.

1218
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: And that's okay. It's so unfortunate because it's like, we

1219
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: don't watch.

1220
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: These shows to to care about that. Now.

1221
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 2: I watch the view to get my political information. I

1222
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 2: only want to know that I don't I don't care

1223
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 2: about what he does at home. I don't want to

1224
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,520
Speaker 2: see Sonny Houston and her kids fight.

1225
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: I want to understand the political views of these women.

1226
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: We don't watch host wise who care about that.

1227
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 2: So for that to be a quote, it's sort of like, again,

1228
01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,719
Speaker 2: is this pandering to the audience.

1229
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 1: But what the thing that.

1230
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 2: I will say is a large part of the audience

1231
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: have said we don't care, right.

1232
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 3: And it's so funny since that came out, how many

1233
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 3: people have come out in support of that, saying good

1234
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 3: for you for standing on your beliefs and not being

1235
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 3: railroaded into just thinking or saying what everybody wants you

1236
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 3: to say, right, Like, thank you for being a woman

1237
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 3: with your own mind who actually speaks their opinions and

1238
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: doesn't just pander and say what people want you to say.

1239
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 3: Because I really think that that's the problem, people just

1240
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: bullying other people into doing what they think the masses

1241
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 3: want to hear. And again that goes back to the

1242
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 3: authenticity part. Just be yourself, be authentic.

1243
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: Right, How did you find out you weren't coming back

1244
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,679
Speaker 2: to the Real Housewives of Billian They.

1245
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 3: Called me, The producer called you, uh yeah, huh.

1246
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: And just said we're going and we're yeah, like we're sorry, yeah,

1247
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 2: and you were shocked.

1248
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: I was quite shocked. Yes, yeah, Like I said, I

1249
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:20,839
Speaker 3: really thought that because I wasn't introduced. I wasn't shown

1250
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: apart from talking about sons esophagus that I thought that

1251
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 3: I would have, you know, another season to do what

1252
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 3: I thought I was brought there to do, which was

1253
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 3: to show Black Wealth a solid black, loving, happy, hilarious

1254
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 3: family unit. Right Like I really thought that that's why

1255
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 3: I was brought to the show. And so I was like, Okay, well,

1256
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 3: you know they didn't show it here. So that's what

1257
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 3: next year is going to be about for me. It's

1258
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 3: going to be about me, me being seen and shown.

1259
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 3: And you know how I was so open and honest

1260
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 3: and vulnerable with the stuff with my mom and like

1261
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 3: all my adoption trauma and you know, wanting to find

1262
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 3: my biological father. Like that's that's really the stuff that

1263
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 3: I was wanting to show next year, and so that's

1264
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 3: why I was so I was like devastated. I was

1265
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 3: really really hurt when I found out I wasn't going

1266
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 3: to be coming back, because then I was like, well

1267
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 3: then why was I here? Right? Like, I don't care

1268
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 3: about science ofesophagus, So why am I here? You know,

1269
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 3: I like I have this. I'm such a happy person,

1270
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: you know I am. I really stand for authenticity and

1271
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 3: truth and positivity and supporting people and motivating people and

1272
01:11:52,760 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 3: inspiring people. And that is what I will always make

1273
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 3: sure is put out when it has to do with

1274
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 3: me going forward, because I feel like my life story

1275
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 3: is too important, you know, and I won't I won't

1276
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 3: do anything that doesn't that doesn't serve me in that way.

1277
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 3: So I, like I said, I was really excited to

1278
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 3: show to show people that representation of Beverly Hills a reputation,

1279
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 3: a representation of a strong, wealthy black family unit that

1280
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 3: they've never seen before.

1281
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: So what's next for you? Because everything happens for a reason.

1282
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 3: Everything happens for a reason, absolutely, And you know, in

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Speaker 3: light of that another you know, you can call it

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 3: an attack, you can call it bullying. That that stuff

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Speaker 3: in the daily mail, with the quotations from Garcela and

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Speaker 3: Crystal all over the place. You know, I really feel

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Speaker 3: like it was my mom. I feel like it was

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Speaker 3: my mom. I think she was protecting me because I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, once you're kind of in the machine, you're like, no,

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Speaker 3: I need to make it better. I need to. I

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 3: need to fix it. I need to fix it. I

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: need to make it better. I need to. I need

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Speaker 3: people to see me, you know, and so I don't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have saved myself. If they had invited me back,

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Speaker 3: I would have gone back. And I think it was

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Speaker 3: my mom intervening and saying like, honey, you're not good

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Speaker 3: for this, like this is this, You're not good for this, honey.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: But I have a lot of plans. This this is

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01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,879
Speaker 3: You'll see, You'll see. I have a lot of plans.

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01:13:54,320 --> 01:14:01,520
Speaker 3: There are a lot of things going on, and I'm excited.

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01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 3: Like I said, I just I want to do all

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 3: the things that align with who I am. Positivity, truth, authenticity, inspiration, motivation.

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01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: You know, I've been through so much in my life

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Speaker 3: and to be where I am now and have this

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Speaker 3: amazing life that I'm so proud of and so lucky

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 3: and so blessed to have. I just want other people

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Speaker 3: to know that they can do it too. You know,

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Speaker 3: they can do it too. You just need to have

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Speaker 3: the right people around you, good support of loving people

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01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: around you, and make good decisions, work hard, and you

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Speaker 3: can make anything you want happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe that. And the thing is this,

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Speaker 2: there's more for you to do. You are such a

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01:14:55,600 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: beautiful moment, beautiful spirit. You're very smart, You're accomplished, and

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01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: one thing I would like for you to do because

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Speaker 2: when a reality star is not asked to come back,

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01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: they feel like they have to rush and do something right.

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Speaker 2: And I love the fact that you are figuring things out.

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01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: You know, you got some irons in the fire, which

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01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: is great. But I would love for you to, like

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01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: you said, your mom is guiding you. Because our mother

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Speaker 2: is in heaven. They are our guardian angel. And if

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01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: you sit still and you you what I want you

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01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 2: to do is to be still and to allow your

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 2: mom to guide you, because that's why she's in heaven.

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Speaker 2: She's in heaven to guide you and your sisters. Absolutely, Okay,

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01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: you have to sit still and listen to the voices

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01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: because I do that all the time with my mom.

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Speaker 2: I talk to her every single day and she guides me.

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Speaker 2: She told me, like, girl, don't be doing that.

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Speaker 1: She calls me girl, Hey, Mom, You're not like girl,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing?

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Speaker 2: So I would love for you to listen to the

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 2: the voices and to be still. And it's unfortunate because

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Speaker 2: I really want you to come back.

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Speaker 1: And I was.

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01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: Talking to Gerdy from Miami Housewives recently and There's a

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01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: friend of named key Key Bart who is so funny,

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01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: and I was saying to her, like, people always say,

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01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: like there has to be one black girl on the show,

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01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: and she is like, I hate that, Like, no one

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01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 2: says there has to be one white woman on the show.

1345
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: It's always the minorities. And you are such a great

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01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 2: juxtaposition of Garcell and the best way possible in the

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01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 2: sense of we get to see another side of the

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Speaker 2: black experience in Beverly Hills, and I feel sad for

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01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: us as a community that we won't be able to

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Speaker 2: see that. So obviously, when you're not coming back.

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Speaker 1: You are a large part of the.

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01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 2: Storyline this season, So I want to congratulate you on

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01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 2: the ratings increasing and being the most watched season since

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: my season of The Real Housewise at Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Without you being there, what do you think these girls'

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Speaker 2: storylines are going to be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, Crystal's never had one, so without me,

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Speaker 3: she's definitely not gonna have one at all. I hope that,

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Speaker 3: you know, I hope for Kyle that she I really

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 3: hope she finds peace, you know, whether her and Mauricio

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01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 3: make it or whatever. She chooses to do going forward

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Speaker 3: that makes her happy. I just hope she finds peace

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Speaker 3: me too, I hope to read in p k R Okay,

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01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 3: I know they you know, they've been going through a

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Speaker 3: rough patch. So I hope that they are able to

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Speaker 3: keep their relationship together and strong. And I truly hope

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Speaker 3: that she's not too, you know, emotionally scarred or damaged

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Speaker 3: from being labeled a racist, because she's not. She's a

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Speaker 3: really sweet lady. I hope that Erica she had a

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Speaker 3: great season. She she I feel like she was shining.

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Speaker 3: Her performance was amazing. She's revitalized her career. So I

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Speaker 3: just hope she keeps going along that path. And just

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Speaker 3: hope she just keeps shining. Sudden, you know, I hope

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Speaker 3: her and her horse are good her, you know, find

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01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 3: a man, keep going with your hobby shop, whatever you

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01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: want to do, not the dating app and garcel. You know,

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01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 3: I hope she. I hope she stops leaning into, you know,

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Speaker 3: being a bully, because I don't think being a bully

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Speaker 3: is a good look for her. So I hope that

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Speaker 3: she kind of backs away from that a bit. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I hope that she finds love because she

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01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 3: just keeps talking about her husband from like thirteen years

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01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 3: ago or whatever, so you know, I I think that

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Speaker 3: would be nice for her.

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