WEBVTT - Bonds & Handwriting

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong and Jettie and

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<v Speaker 2>he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 3>Another Narco boat going up in flames, this time at

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<v Speaker 3>the hands of the Coastguard south of the Galapagos Islands

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<v Speaker 3>in the Pacific, the Coast Guard posting on x saying

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<v Speaker 3>over the weekend, as part of Operation Pacific Viper, the

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<v Speaker 3>Coastguard cutter Stone conducted three interredictions in a single night,

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<v Speaker 3>seizing nearly thirteen thousand pounds of cocaine and apprehending seven

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<v Speaker 3>suspected drug smugglers. And while this operation was more of

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<v Speaker 3>a law enforcement interdiction rather than a shoot to kill

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<v Speaker 3>military strike like we recently saw over a week ago

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<v Speaker 3>with that Venezuela and Narco boat, all of this is

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<v Speaker 3>part of the Trump administration's crackdown on cartels.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what I think about this, as watching

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<v Speaker 4>Ryan Paul on some cable show yesterday argue, even if

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<v Speaker 4>they were drug runners, they could have been running drugs

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<v Speaker 4>to somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not the only country that likes drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>There's lots of places that like drugs and are we

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<v Speaker 4>just going to kill all drug dealers anywhere in the.

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<v Speaker 2>World that are setting drugs anywhere? I mean, how do

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<v Speaker 2>we figure this out?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think it's nearly as simple as a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are portraying it, partly because it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fun and directionally, everybody wants a tougher border and

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<v Speaker 1>standing up to the cartels because they're monstrous.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not worried about it, and make that clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, somebody also pointed out that these

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<v Speaker 1>guys in the boats are either like the lowest level

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<v Speaker 1>guys or fishermen who are just trying to earn a

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<v Speaker 1>little extra money by taking a bail from here to there.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't ask any questions that sort of thing. There

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<v Speaker 1>are arguments counter that too. You know, they're selling death,

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<v Speaker 1>they're transporting death, and their criminal enterprises organized criminal enterprises,

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<v Speaker 1>but stuff and people without trial ought to be looked

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<v Speaker 1>at carefully. You don't really want your government to have

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<v Speaker 1>the right to do that because it tends to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of hand.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of the biggest topics in America yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 4>we talked about it a lot, was the so called

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<v Speaker 4>National report Card on our schools that came out that

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<v Speaker 4>showed once again they are headed in the wrong direction,

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<v Speaker 4>as they have been for three decades at least. The

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<v Speaker 4>coverage of it was exactly what I expected. Unfortunately, it

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<v Speaker 4>was blamed on COVID and then they would mention this

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<v Speaker 4>at a time that the Trump administration has fired half

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<v Speaker 4>of the people in the Department of Education. Neither of

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<v Speaker 4>those things really relevant, as the numbers have been going down,

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<v Speaker 4>as I pointed out, for decades. And you know, COVID

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<v Speaker 4>didn't help, but it's not the cause by any means whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and the idea that your child learns to read

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<v Speaker 1>and write because of the federal Department of Education is hilarious, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a canard?

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<v Speaker 2>Is they say it's a falsehood? Please? Well, in these.

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<v Speaker 1>Minor and overblown duties and just tracking test scores and

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<v Speaker 1>forcing schools to adopt progressive policies for the last several years.

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<v Speaker 4>This data was from before those firings happened anyway, But

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<v Speaker 4>I guess the idea from the media is now, we're

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<v Speaker 4>going to try to fix this with half of the

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<v Speaker 4>Department of Education.

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<v Speaker 2>What makes what is it that leads you to.

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<v Speaker 4>Believe that more government, more at the federal level, is

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<v Speaker 4>what would fix this anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>And where where's that come from?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and then I wanted to throw in, as I

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned last hour, an eighth grader I know, talking about

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<v Speaker 4>being in science class yesterday with kids looking at their phones.

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't get discussed yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>How prevalent is that around the country, kids having phone

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<v Speaker 4>in the phones in the classroom.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't believe that lasts five minutes, yes, let alone

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<v Speaker 5>school by school, the whole classroom people are just sitting

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<v Speaker 5>there looking their phones. I was told that a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of girls sitting there with earbuds in watching videos on

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<v Speaker 5>their phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course you're not learning, Oh my god. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a majority of states now have banned

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<v Speaker 1>smartphones in classrooms. But whether it's enforced or not is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, varies. I'd imagine state by state, and even

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<v Speaker 1>district by district. Certainly Blue County to Red County, there's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a difference. We got this email from a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year school marm. As she describes herself, I'm a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>year veteran teacher, having taught almost every grade K through eight.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spent the last seven or so years in kindergarten,

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<v Speaker 1>and I agree with all of your takes on public

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<v Speaker 1>schools and why we are failing. I believe very strongly

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<v Speaker 1>the teachers' unions and the inability to retain students are

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<v Speaker 1>our main obstacles to real and affected positive change. Some

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<v Speaker 1>other food for thought, What was the purpose happening to

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<v Speaker 1>number retain meaning whole back flunk?

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<v Speaker 4>We think we used to call it flunk you flunked

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<v Speaker 4>second grade now, and then they called it held back.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I noticed they call it retain. Yeah, you're not

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<v Speaker 4>allowed to retain people. Why you can't read or do

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<v Speaker 4>math at the grade level you're in right now? Why

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<v Speaker 4>would I move you on to the next.

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<v Speaker 1>Grade, says the administrator, because that's easier for me. It'd

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<v Speaker 1>be super hard to justify to the parents and tutor

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<v Speaker 1>this kid and get them caught up to speed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's super easy to pass them on.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of that, there's a number of reasons. Part of

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<v Speaker 4>it is the whole self esteem movement. It would hurt

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<v Speaker 4>the kid's self esteem. Well, you're not going to help

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<v Speaker 4>their self esteem by sending them out in the world

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<v Speaker 4>where they can't read or do math. And they can't

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<v Speaker 4>work a job. That's pretty hard on your self esteem too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, some intriguing questions from the veteran teacher. What

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<v Speaker 1>was the per capita number of books per child or

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<v Speaker 1>books per household twenty years ago? How about the minutes

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<v Speaker 1>per day that children interact with crayons, scissors, plato before

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<v Speaker 1>the age of five twenty years ago is compared to now?

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<v Speaker 1>Now we have kindergarteners arriving to school where we are

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<v Speaker 1>now expected to send them to first grade as readers

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<v Speaker 1>who cannot identify, much less write their name, nor do

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<v Speaker 1>they know how to use crayons, and they've spent the

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<v Speaker 1>first five years coloring with fingertips on screens. I could

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<v Speaker 1>go on, and it's worth pointing out here is that

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<v Speaker 1>And a person could certainly say, well, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>computer age.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't need crowns or you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I unfortunately, as study after study has shown, handwriting

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<v Speaker 1>is an incredible stimulator of your brain, connecting the mechanical.

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<v Speaker 2>With the cerebral.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about your brain, and there's practically no substitute

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<v Speaker 1>for it for developing your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm that's true, But is it?

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<v Speaker 4>It's not the same though, when you're coloring in with

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<v Speaker 4>your finger on a tablet, because I've done that with

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<v Speaker 4>my kids when they would do that, it's very similar,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Or writing your fund writing with your

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<v Speaker 4>finger instead of holding a pen. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 4>that would be much different.

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<v Speaker 1>I am absolutely deeply in agreement with the need for

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<v Speaker 1>a complete overhaul the way public schools operate government schools,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have to talk about the ways that families

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<v Speaker 1>are or not setting their children and teachers up for

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<v Speaker 1>success with what they are doing with their children before

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<v Speaker 1>they reach the school doors. Thanks for beating the drums

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<v Speaker 1>for sanity, Kta Kacas, keep talking about our crazy ass schools.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a twenty year school, marm.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you this and this, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>statement that any sane, decent.

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<v Speaker 2>Person must agree with. That's a good setup. And I

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<v Speaker 2>will take all commers who deny that.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to approach the failings of our government schools

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<v Speaker 1>and the failings more generally of our kids to learn

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<v Speaker 1>and achieve with completely open eyes and honesty. And there

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<v Speaker 1>can be no sacred cow. I was spared if they

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be spared. Teachers' unions, we hammer them all the time. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you do not get to hide behind your rhetoric anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>There can't be any fear of quote unquote blaming the victims.

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<v Speaker 1>There can't be any fear of coming off as racist

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<v Speaker 1>or what have you. When you and your progressive policies

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<v Speaker 1>do them little black kids and brown kids or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>to low achievement and failure. That's not being nice to them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the worst thing you could do to them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be dealt with honestly and bluntly, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of hope that that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we point it out yesterday, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to dredge up this article again by

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<v Speaker 1>the absolutely brilliant Harvard economists whose name is flitted out

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<v Speaker 1>of my head because I'm old.

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<v Speaker 2>They figured out how.

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<v Speaker 1>To turn around schools, and they did it successfully in Houston,

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<v Speaker 1>poor schools with poor kids. It's known what to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but the educational industrial complex has no interest in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Schools don't exist to teach your childs anymore, your children anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>They exist as a jobs program and a political patronage Program's.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, they're still doing the test scores up on CBS.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to see because that should be a topic

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<v Speaker 4>and it has gone down ten points. I forget if

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<v Speaker 4>it was reading or math, which one it was, but

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<v Speaker 4>one of them has gone down ten points in the

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<v Speaker 4>thirty years they've been tracking it for seniors. That's an

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<v Speaker 4>amazing drop given how much more money we spend per

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<v Speaker 4>pupil on schools across the country. More money, less results.

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<v Speaker 4>But one of my blind spots would be, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I only know my own socioeconomic experience. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what it's like for most of the country, or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the bottom third or whatever of schools. Because that person

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<v Speaker 4>that just wrote about kids showing up to kindergarten without

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<v Speaker 4>any of the skills that can gardners used to have. God,

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<v Speaker 4>where I live, the kids show up, they've already know

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<v Speaker 4>how to play the cello and speak an of their language,

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<v Speaker 4>and they've been to Europe and all these different things.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I've always.

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<v Speaker 4>Wondered is it seems like the like kindergarten, first grade

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<v Speaker 4>is so much more advanced than it was when I

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<v Speaker 4>was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Where does the drop off occur.

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<v Speaker 4>From your doing like math that we used to do

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<v Speaker 4>in seventh grade in first grade but then somewhere in

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<v Speaker 4>between it like falls off a cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>about it, and it says American Kids Test Scores declining

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<v Speaker 4>it should be talked about. It is a couldn't hardly

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<v Speaker 4>be a bigger deal. Like I said, as usual, finger

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<v Speaker 4>pointing goes in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the dominant media, legacy media.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, We'll all be saying, therefore, we need more money, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been throwing more money at it, and it's been

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<v Speaker 4>going in the wrong direction. You'd think for for decades,

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<v Speaker 4>you'd think that'd be enough to say, Okay, we gotta

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<v Speaker 4>try something different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd think, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish progressivism has is their scam is easier to sell

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<v Speaker 1>than the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>But you said blue states, Red states with like phones

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<v Speaker 4>in the classroom. I don't know. Is that the way

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<v Speaker 4>it would break down? What's the Blue state argument for

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<v Speaker 4>phones in a classroom.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard various arguments about.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the progressive parents who tend to vote in

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<v Speaker 1>blue states say I need to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>together with my to connect with my kids, they've got

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<v Speaker 1>to have their phone. And I would I would be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to bet a substantial sum of money that helicopter parenting,

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<v Speaker 1>snowplow parenting is more prevalent in progressive families than in

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<v Speaker 1>conservative families.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know anything have any experience with in this

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<v Speaker 4>new school year, kids with phones in the classroom? Do

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<v Speaker 4>you know anything about that? If you do text line FOURFTC.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you gotta see this?

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<v Speaker 6>The woman from the viral Coldplay kiss cam moment has filed.

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<v Speaker 2>For divorce from her husband.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the first time someone listened their reason.

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<v Speaker 2>For divorce as jumbo trump. The woman now.

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<v Speaker 6>Wants to get away from the spotlight, so she's going

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<v Speaker 6>to spend a few weeks with her sister in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 4>I uh, I don't want to take a joke serious

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<v Speaker 4>and get off on this, but I wish we would

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<v Speaker 4>change the way we talk about that in America, to

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<v Speaker 4>filed for divorce from their family as opposed to filed

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<v Speaker 4>from divorce from their husband or their wife. Because that's

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<v Speaker 4>what you're doing. I don't give a crap about the

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<v Speaker 4>dad or the mom. They'll get over it. The kids

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<v Speaker 4>though huge deal, never gets mentioned. It's an afterthought, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's horrible, but that's my gio. Filed for

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<v Speaker 4>divorce from her family, decided to leave, left her husband,

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<v Speaker 4>left her family, left her left his wife, no left

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<v Speaker 4>his family. I think would make more sense and be

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<v Speaker 4>more accurate. Mike Tyson says he was using fentanyl back

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<v Speaker 4>in the day, long before anybody even knew what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, he had he had.

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<v Speaker 4>Come across it somehow and somebody explained to him how

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<v Speaker 4>it was like, it's something like fire hundred times more

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<v Speaker 4>effective than morphine in terms of a pain killer. I've

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<v Speaker 4>had morphine a couple of times in my life when

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<v Speaker 4>I had my gullbladder out and then something around my cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty effective.

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<v Speaker 4>I went from being in the worst pain in my

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<v Speaker 4>life to zero pain, like immediately what.

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<v Speaker 2>They put me on? The morphine?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah amazing, And fentanyl's way, way, way, way more powerful

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<v Speaker 4>than that. But Tyson was taking it for his feet,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, back in the day, and he's now happy

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<v Speaker 4>that he did not become more addicted.

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<v Speaker 2>Or die for it. Yeah yeah, wow.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a sixty year old man in the pot business

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<v Speaker 4>now mostly how he makes his money. And he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to fight Floyd Mayweather, some consider the greatest fighter of

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<v Speaker 4>all time. He's the most boring fighter of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, Tyson's gonna fight him next year.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so may Mayweather, who fought the crippled Filipino

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<v Speaker 1>man back in the day, Yes, one of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>pay per view events in the history of pay per view.

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<v Speaker 2>He also fought who's the lunatic Irishman? Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor,

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<v Speaker 2>I paid for that one. I think I paid like

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred bucks for that one. Uf Oof was right,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 1>I know a couple of surgeons who are just astounded

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<v Speaker 1>that fentanyl is a street drug now oh really just

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, yeah, It's just it's the idea that you're

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<v Speaker 1>buying it from some dude on the street and you're

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<v Speaker 1>trusting them to get the dosage right. It is just well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's so stupid. It could kill hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Whoops, I know nothing about this.

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<v Speaker 4>How many people are knowingly buying fentanyl as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>it's in drugs to make them more addictive?

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<v Speaker 7>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>No idea? Is it mostly the first or you don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know either. No, I honestly don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there the truly insidious part is the second,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's used to beef up how high it gets

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<v Speaker 1>you and cut the cost and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But unfortunately people die a lot from it with no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>That they're going to ingest fentanyl and whatever form.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Tyson said he was on it, uh for a

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<v Speaker 4>little while for his toe, mostly his tow wort, and

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<v Speaker 4>then when he stopped it, he was full on throwing

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<v Speaker 4>up and shakes and everything like that, and he's like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 4>what the heck? So it's crazy addictive, like really really

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<v Speaker 4>like almost immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>I was neglecting my pigeons. It was terrible. My tigers

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at me with disrespect. That's a good Mike, Tyson.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very good. Is it a mocking a lisp? Here

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<v Speaker 2>or here he bunch me right in the face. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just what he talks like.

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<v Speaker 4>That is what he sounds like. It's not mocking a list,

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<v Speaker 4>it's doing an impersonation. So give you an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Of what it would sound like if Mike Tyson said that,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it was. Indeed, he's gone soft thitter the mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, Michael, Exactly, Jack, you need a tough enoughses.

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<v Speaker 4>So one of the hottest stories in America is how

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<v Speaker 4>are all these lunatics who have committed so many crimes

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<v Speaker 4>out on the street to commit even worse crimes. We're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna talk one of the nation's leading experts on knowing

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<v Speaker 4>all about that coming up next.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got to change the way we do things

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<v Speaker 2>in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>What should you know about cash free bail that whole system.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it work?

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<v Speaker 2>No? And we'll talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Why Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump says this murder was a result of state

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<v Speaker 4>democratic policies.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw are the results of these policies when.

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<v Speaker 3>A twenty three year old woman who came here from

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine met her bloody and on a public train.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, one of the policies we're talking about is

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<v Speaker 4>people not having to put up bail and getting to

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<v Speaker 4>head out onto the street and recommit crimes, which is

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<v Speaker 4>obviously horrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the idea of cash free bail, which ends up

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<v Speaker 1>being catch and release, is very popular and lefty circles.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's the reality of it to discuss that in

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<v Speaker 1>some of these crimes that have happened recently. We're glad

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome longtime friend of the Armstrong in Getty Show

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<v Speaker 1>Topo Padilla, who's not only been a licensed baal agent

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<v Speaker 1>for forty two years, but just finished up his term

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<v Speaker 1>as president of the Golden State Bail Bonds Association California

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<v Speaker 1>and also the president of the Professional Bail Agents of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, representing agents across the country. Topo, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you welcome?

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<v Speaker 2>Good's creagi be on here with you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, twenty seconds is probably enough for thirty seconds. Why

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<v Speaker 1>does bail exist? What is it and why is it important?

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<v Speaker 7>Bill has really one sole purpose up for most is

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<v Speaker 7>not as accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>Accountability that people go to.

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<v Speaker 7>Court and if a law enforcement officer arrest them and

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<v Speaker 7>they're charged with the crime, that they go to court

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<v Speaker 7>If they don't, it is our job to go return

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<v Speaker 7>them to court at no cost to the taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 4>And the experience is over many many years of doing

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<v Speaker 4>this is people are much more a likely to show

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<v Speaker 4>up for their court date and less likely to reoffend

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<v Speaker 4>while they're out there if there is money up because

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<v Speaker 4>of like family pressure.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, it is accountability built by a bond. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to use the word bail, bond and bond,

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<v Speaker 7>but we build bonds with the person that's in jail

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<v Speaker 7>and the people that are bailing them out, whether it's

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<v Speaker 7>family or friends that bail them out, and that bond

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<v Speaker 7>does in fact, and it's been shown Jeff reisig Da

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<v Speaker 7>of Yellow County Data study, and it showed that recidivism

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<v Speaker 7>happens when you have no skin in the game. And

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<v Speaker 7>what we do is we build that bond with our

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<v Speaker 7>clients to make sure that they go to court and

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<v Speaker 7>change their lives. That's it. You know, I don't throwing

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<v Speaker 7>people in jail, Okay, that's fine and dandy. Change their

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<v Speaker 7>lives and if you're held accountable, as we know as

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<v Speaker 7>raising children, you might change your ways. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 7>our objective in our criminal justice system is to change

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<v Speaker 7>people's ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, one of the interesting effects of the bond

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<v Speaker 1>or the bail system is exists is you have family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends all get together with the bail agent and

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<v Speaker 1>the courts as a team to say, all right, look,

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<v Speaker 1>let's settle this problem in a smart way. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>the best result possible. We're all going to cooperate. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do this as opposed to a guy just skipping out

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<v Speaker 1>and doing more crimes. That's not doing them any favor.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the reality of the cash free bail, a system

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<v Speaker 1>that's lefty states are embracing.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, if I could say something, I was on the

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<v Speaker 7>phone the other day with somebody who's very very close

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<v Speaker 7>to the administration. In our profession, we have about eight

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<v Speaker 7>to ten people that are very close to the president's

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<v Speaker 7>this administration. And one of the things I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>can we get him? Does you quit using the word

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<v Speaker 7>cashless bail? And they said, no, he's not going to

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<v Speaker 7>quit using that term. It's a term he's latch onto.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's truly.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was told that by somebody who's right next

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<v Speaker 7>to him. The real facts of the matter is this

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<v Speaker 7>just because it costs money to bail out of jail

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<v Speaker 7>through a bail bonds, and they used the merge money

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<v Speaker 7>bail or cash bail. No, it's a bail bond. And yes,

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<v Speaker 7>you pay for a bail bond, just like be for

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<v Speaker 7>car insurance, house insurance. It is a bail bond. So

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<v Speaker 7>there's a monetary amount set. When somebody's arrested, say it's

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<v Speaker 7>ten thousand dollars, they can put up ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 7>to the court and if that don't go to court,

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<v Speaker 7>they lose that ten thousand, or they can go through

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<v Speaker 7>a bail bond and pay us an insurance premium. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's what we do for the people that don't have

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<v Speaker 7>the money, for the people that aren't rich. And you're right,

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<v Speaker 7>which you said Jack moments ago. People will get together.

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<v Speaker 7>They'll band together to bail their loved one out and

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<v Speaker 7>they want to see them change as well. And that's

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<v Speaker 7>where our system does work.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you if you actually go to court like

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to, the bond is just ten percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the bail, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's correig.

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<v Speaker 7>It's ten percent eight percent. There's different rates and different

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<v Speaker 7>states have different rates. Yeah, but yeah, that's what it is,

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<v Speaker 7>and that we put up that bail bond making sure

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<v Speaker 7>that you go to court. And I'm telling you guys,

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<v Speaker 7>the stats in my office, because I write bail a

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<v Speaker 7>little different, are over a ninety nine percent success rate

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<v Speaker 7>of returning people to court overall profession, it's a profession.

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<v Speaker 7>We have over a ninety eight percent success rate in

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<v Speaker 7>turning people to court. And if you compare that to

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<v Speaker 7>somebody who just signs a piece of paper and is released.

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<v Speaker 7>And if you look at that perpetrator, that murderer that

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<v Speaker 7>did what he did in North Carolina, that man he

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<v Speaker 7>knew there was nothing that was going to stop him,

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<v Speaker 7>so just he just kept many crimes, many crimes. And

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<v Speaker 7>that's a real tragedy. And it's sad that that young

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<v Speaker 7>lady has lost her life to bring this to the

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<v Speaker 7>forefront of this country.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the catch and releases?

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<v Speaker 1>That the term you prefer instead of cash list bail,

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<v Speaker 1>What should we be saying.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, no, It should be secured bail. And this

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<v Speaker 7>is what I said to the advisors that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was speaking to.

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<v Speaker 7>It should be called secure bail because we put up security.

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<v Speaker 2>We put up in a bond.

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<v Speaker 7>If somebody puts up to the whole ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>That's secured bail. There's a secured bill. There's one day

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<v Speaker 7>I will tell you, guys a story about happened in

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<v Speaker 7>Plasma County that had something to do with a father

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<v Speaker 7>putting up cash in the sun running but that secure.

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<v Speaker 7>I would ready to see the term secured bail and

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<v Speaker 7>unsecured bail, cashless bail is a term that it's getting

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<v Speaker 7>people's attention. But the bottom line is we want people

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<v Speaker 7>to go to court, we want them to be held accountable,

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<v Speaker 7>we want them to change their ways, and it's just

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<v Speaker 7>a system that has been trounced on. However, as you

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<v Speaker 7>guys know, in twenty eighteen Proposition twenty five, the voters

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<v Speaker 7>overwhelmingly by more than two million votes, said we do

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<v Speaker 7>not want to eliminate bail bonds.

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<v Speaker 2>That within the state of California.

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<v Speaker 7>Correct, That is correct, So we won there. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 7>that should resonate across this country.

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<v Speaker 4>Even in California. People think the whole you ain't got

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<v Speaker 4>to have any skin in the game is.

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<v Speaker 1>Nuts, right, It's the whole protected class and unprotected class.

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<v Speaker 1>The elite intellectuals who hold these what are often referred

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<v Speaker 1>to as luxury beliefs because you know, you're affluent, college educated,

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>only white people who have no idea how the real

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.560
<v Speaker 1>world actually works. They congratulate themselves for holding these beliefs,

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<v Speaker 1>but meanwhile, in the hood, the people know exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>it works, and they hate the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>One more thought topo.

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<v Speaker 1>You put it out in some of the written stuff

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>you gave us that when you just sign a piece

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:18.639
<v Speaker 1>of paper say yeah, I'll show up to court whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's unsecured, that fugitive rates skyrocket and when people

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>are on the run, they're more app to reoffend.

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<v Speaker 2>So this actually leads to more crime.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, And one of the things I put in there

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 7>that I really have to bring we in the bail

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:40.000
<v Speaker 7>profession created a fugitive. We have a fugitive problem in

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<v Speaker 7>this country, We truly do. And those fugitives are not

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<v Speaker 7>out on bail. They are truly out on unsecured release.

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<v Speaker 7>And we, as bail bondsmen, are now being stimied because

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<v Speaker 7>of a case that happened in Missouri from going across

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 7>state lines ay fugitive and bringing him back. And we

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<v Speaker 7>are hoping that the President looks at our executive order

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<v Speaker 7>and understands all we want to do is do our

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<v Speaker 7>job and be able to apprehend fugitives no matter where

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<v Speaker 7>they go, because we do have a fugitive problem. And Joe,

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<v Speaker 7>as a matter of fact, in my forty two years,

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<v Speaker 7>when people are fugitives, they're not living right, they're not working,

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<v Speaker 7>they're not taking care of their family right, They're on

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<v Speaker 7>the run. In Los Angeles in twenty eighteen, there were

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<v Speaker 7>more than two point one million warrants. Jim Cooper brought

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<v Speaker 7>that to the Assembly floor when he was an assemblement

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 7>and said that today, I promise you that is over

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 7>three point five million active warrants. People that are wanted,

0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 7>that are wanted. Every time they see a cop, their

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 7>stomach turns. And that's a problem we have in this

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<v Speaker 7>country as hugitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Topo Padilla president until just very recently of the professional

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<v Speaker 1>bail Agents of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Topo.

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<v Speaker 1>Great stuff, great information. Let's stay in touch on this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important. Thanks you got it. Thank you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's all true, and I believe it. The statistics

0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 4>back it up and everything like that. Having skin in

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<v Speaker 4>the game for the individual and then the people that

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 4>you know around them to keep them.

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 2>Accountable to show up all that sort of stuff.

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 4>This horrible case in Charlotte, the blonde girl being hacked

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<v Speaker 4>to death by this lunatic. The guy's completely crazy. That

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 4>guy's completely crazy. That is mostly a failure of our well,

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.120
<v Speaker 4>our judicial system, our mental health, the way we deal

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<v Speaker 4>with all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the guy is crazy. His mom knew he was crazy,

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 2>his dad knew he was crazy. The cops knew he.

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<v Speaker 4>Was crazy, dangerously and dangerously crazy. They were like, he's

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 4>going to do something horrible sometime. We got to come

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<v Speaker 4>up with a way to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead. We've we've got to be moving toward.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think we are with public awareness, a more willing,

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 4>more willingness to lock up crazy people against against their will.

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just have to.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, we are more than acquainted with the excesses

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>of the past that can be dealt with. We have

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>so overcorrected, I mean, like in a way that is

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>well mad, it's crazy in itself. The brilliant Nelly Bowls

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>of the Free Press wrote one of my favorite things

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that I've seen about this horrible case in Charlotte and

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>how it came to be, And she describes the story

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>and she says there are many angles to this story,

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the media blackout that followed the mayor's response that offered

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>more sympathy to the killer than the killed. He was, well,

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, she is absolutely evil. He was

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>well known to law enforcement, having been arrested at least

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>fourteen times. Over and over, he was arrested and released.

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>The obvious question is why was this man walking free?

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is simple, and you know I've expressed this

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>several times. When she does it more eloquently, says, we

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>don't like to incarcerate our maniacs until they kill. Mental

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>institutions have been deemed too terrible an option. So in America,

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>every lunatic gets one free murder. A lunatic who runs

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>around trying to kill someone for years should at least

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>get one before he is locked up. Right, Irena Zerutzko

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>was de Carlos Brown Junior's one free murder, And they

0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>have several stories about that topic.

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 2>But that's right.

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>You can do anything until you murder somebody. Then we'll

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>incarcerate you. Then we will separate you from all of

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>your potential victims. But you get to murder somebody, well,

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>we got to change that, Oh yes we do, and

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<v Speaker 1>soon and I'm not sure how much can be done

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>at the federal level, but it's it's a social thing,

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know. Politics is always downstream of society, of the

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>morals and beliefs of the people. Culture in short, and

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>we've got to change the culture and help people understand

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>that the progressive crime policies are madness in themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>They're nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>Depends on where you live, of course, but where I live,

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 4>I walk by somebody that probably should be locked up

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 4>every single day, every day, often parking my car here

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:23.479
<v Speaker 4>work and walk into the building.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 2>But to other places every.

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Day I come in contact with people that almost certainly

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 4>should be locked up by the state.

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which came across something. It's one of the

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>most unbelievable, astounding failures of journalism ever. Seattle Times, I'm

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>looking at you. We'll have that for you in moments.

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<v Speaker 4>More excerpts from Kamala Harris's book, which are out today.

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<v Speaker 2>Stirring.

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<v Speaker 4>Stirring is the word I would choose. It's a blame athon,

0:31:52.920 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 4>among other things. On the way stay here the new

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 4>pull out from New York City about Momdani with a

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 4>giant lead. I mean, it's most people are calling in

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 4>a lock I mean, there'd have to be some extraordinary

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 4>event at this point, and what does that mean for

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 4>our national politics?

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll talk about that in hour three.

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Also next hour of Vladimir Putin putting a thumb in

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>the eye of NATO flying a bunch of drones deep

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>into Polish airspace?

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Holy cow? What does it mean? We'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 1>So continuing briefly our discussion of the horrific murder of

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the young woman in Charlotte and the you know, turning

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>back onto the street over and over again a violently

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>crazy person, one of the really great pieces of writing

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>thinking journalism by kat Rosenfield in The Free Press. She

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<v Speaker 1>points out the greater issue is a cultural one. She's

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>talking about how you know conservatives have latched on to

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>this is yet another example of the idea that we

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 1>must let serial offenders just stay on the streets for

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>some reason. And she writes, while this vicious crime plausibly

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>represents the policy chickens of twenty twenty coming home to roost,

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that only halfway explains why the story is so captured

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>to the public imagination. The greater issue is a cultural one,

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<v Speaker 1>a growing frustration with what often feels like limitless tolerance

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<v Speaker 1>for public disorder and anti social behavior, and with it

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a sense that one must not only avoid discussing these

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>things to remain a liberal in good standing, but actively

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>pretend that they don't exist. And she talks about the

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>media blackout in the wake of this murder, which didn't

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<v Speaker 1>last because it's too horrifying and big and for the

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>reasons we're discussing. But like Wikipedia, the editors are trying

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>to take the page down that discusses the murder. You've

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>got to actively stop people from talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Which brings me to what I t which is.

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>The almost hilarious failure of the Seattle Times. It's an

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>article written by one Greg Kim mayoral candidates take opposing

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>tax on homelessness response, and it's you know, fine in

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>describing that about how the two main candidates. One is

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>intent on removing tents and making public spaces usable again.

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Parks and sidewalks. We got to keep them clear, and

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>we got to get people off of them and let

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the citizens, you know, do what they do. And the

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>progressive challenger wants to take a more compassionate approach. She

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 1>agrees that public spaces need to be used for their

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>intended purposes, but says the city needs to get there

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>by dramatically increasing its shelter capacity, which means finding new

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>progressive revenue sources, new taxes. Okay, here's the punchline. This

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>is a fairly long article. It's several hundred words, and

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I actually did. I read it, then did a search

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to confirm it. It does not once mention drugs wow

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>or drug abuse, not once, and that is the.

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<v Speaker 4>The leading reason for the street person problem. Yeah, they're

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 4>junkie camps. These ten camps are junkie camps. They're drug

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 4>abuser camps, the vast, vast majority of it.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>And this entire article carries with it exactly what cap

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Rosenfield was talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>In the free press.

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 1>You're forbidden to talk about the actual dynamics of what's

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>happening to remain a liberal in good standing like this

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>so called journalist, and the entire article is an implication

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that the homeless are merely people who need housing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's almost hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't think of another example of this ever, when

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 4>there's a major issue, but we don't talk about by.

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Far, the main part of it, and so.

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 4>It was saddled themselves where they had a study that

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<v Speaker 4>showed ninety percent of the street people were drug addicts.

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Right now, remember the percentage, but a huge percentage were

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>from elsewhere who had come to Seattle because they made

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it so easy and comfortable to be a drug addict.

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>So then you just go the same.

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<v Speaker 4>So then you discuss how to fix the street person problem,

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<v Speaker 4>and drugs does not make an appearance in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't think of another example, right, not even in passing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hilarious, wild, it's bizarre and troubling too.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll bet it wasn't even on purpose. It was that

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<v Speaker 4>they're so married to there's a French term for it,

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<v Speaker 4>feakes id or something like ide feaks, but it's you're

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<v Speaker 4>so you're so swimming in a particular view of something.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. They probably didn't even have to do that on purpose.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just so stuck in the idea that this is

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<v Speaker 4>an unfair e canomics.

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<v Speaker 1>Issue right, right, And anything that would distract from that

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<v Speaker 1>narrative is for boten, even if it means ignoring a

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of the problem. Or this guy might say

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<v Speaker 1>it's a small part of the problem, but anyway, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an agreement on the left. You do not admit to

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<v Speaker 1>inconvenient truths that might give the evil conservatives you a

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<v Speaker 1>tool to to overturn your policies with

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<v Speaker 4>What jobs are the most AI proof according to a poem,

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<v Speaker 4>among other things, Next time Armstrong and Getty