1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, I'm strong and Jettie and 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Yetty. 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 3: Another Narco boat going up in flames, this time at 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: the hands of the Coastguard south of the Galapagos Islands 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: in the Pacific, the Coast Guard posting on x saying 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: over the weekend, as part of Operation Pacific Viper, the 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: Coastguard cutter Stone conducted three interredictions in a single night, 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: seizing nearly thirteen thousand pounds of cocaine and apprehending seven 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 3: suspected drug smugglers. And while this operation was more of 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: a law enforcement interdiction rather than a shoot to kill 13 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: military strike like we recently saw over a week ago 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: with that Venezuela and Narco boat, all of this is 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: part of the Trump administration's crackdown on cartels. 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: I don't know what I think about this, as watching 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: Ryan Paul on some cable show yesterday argue, even if 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: they were drug runners, they could have been running drugs 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: to somewhere else. 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: We're not the only country that likes drugs. 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: There's lots of places that like drugs and are we 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 4: just going to kill all drug dealers anywhere in the. 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: World that are setting drugs anywhere? I mean, how do 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: we figure this out? 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's nearly as simple as a 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: lot of people are portraying it, partly because it's kind 27 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: of fun and directionally, everybody wants a tougher border and 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: standing up to the cartels because they're monstrous. 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it, and make that clear. 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, somebody also pointed out that these 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: guys in the boats are either like the lowest level 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: guys or fishermen who are just trying to earn a 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: little extra money by taking a bail from here to there. 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: They don't ask any questions that sort of thing. There 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: are arguments counter that too. You know, they're selling death, 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: they're transporting death, and their criminal enterprises organized criminal enterprises, 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: but stuff and people without trial ought to be looked 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: at carefully. You don't really want your government to have 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: the right to do that because it tends to get 40 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: out of hand. 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 4: So one of the biggest topics in America yesterday, and 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 4: we talked about it a lot, was the so called 43 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: National report Card on our schools that came out that 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: showed once again they are headed in the wrong direction, 45 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: as they have been for three decades at least. The 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: coverage of it was exactly what I expected. Unfortunately, it 47 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: was blamed on COVID and then they would mention this 48 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: at a time that the Trump administration has fired half 49 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: of the people in the Department of Education. Neither of 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: those things really relevant, as the numbers have been going down, 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: as I pointed out, for decades. And you know, COVID 52 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: didn't help, but it's not the cause by any means whatsoever. 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: Well, and the idea that your child learns to read 54 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: and write because of the federal Department of Education is hilarious, right, 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's a canard? 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: Is they say it's a falsehood? Please? Well, in these. 57 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Minor and overblown duties and just tracking test scores and 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: forcing schools to adopt progressive policies for the last several years. 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: This data was from before those firings happened anyway, But 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: I guess the idea from the media is now, we're 61 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: going to try to fix this with half of the 62 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: Department of Education. 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: What makes what is it that leads you to. 64 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: Believe that more government, more at the federal level, is 65 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: what would fix this anyway? 66 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: And where where's that come from? 67 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: Oh and then I wanted to throw in, as I 68 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: mentioned last hour, an eighth grader I know, talking about 69 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: being in science class yesterday with kids looking at their phones. 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: That didn't get discussed yesterday. 71 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: How prevalent is that around the country, kids having phone 72 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: in the phones in the classroom. 73 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: That's insane to me. 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 5: I can't believe that lasts five minutes, yes, let alone 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 5: school by school, the whole classroom people are just sitting 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 5: there looking their phones. I was told that a couple 77 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: of girls sitting there with earbuds in watching videos on 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 5: their phone. 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: Of course you're not learning, Oh my god. Yeah. 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: I think it's a majority of states now have banned 81 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: smartphones in classrooms. But whether it's enforced or not is 82 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: you know, varies. I'd imagine state by state, and even 83 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: district by district. Certainly Blue County to Red County, there's 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: probably a difference. We got this email from a twenty 85 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: year school marm. As she describes herself, I'm a twenty 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: year veteran teacher, having taught almost every grade K through eight. 87 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: I've spent the last seven or so years in kindergarten, 88 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: and I agree with all of your takes on public 89 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: schools and why we are failing. I believe very strongly 90 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: the teachers' unions and the inability to retain students are 91 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: our main obstacles to real and affected positive change. Some 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: other food for thought, What was the purpose happening to 93 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: number retain meaning whole back flunk? 94 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 4: We think we used to call it flunk you flunked 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: second grade now, and then they called it held back. 96 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: Now I noticed they call it retain. Yeah, you're not 97 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 4: allowed to retain people. Why you can't read or do 98 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: math at the grade level you're in right now? Why 99 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: would I move you on to the next. 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Grade, says the administrator, because that's easier for me. It'd 101 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: be super hard to justify to the parents and tutor 102 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: this kid and get them caught up to speed. 103 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: It's super easy to pass them on. 104 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 4: Part of that, there's a number of reasons. Part of 105 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 4: it is the whole self esteem movement. It would hurt 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: the kid's self esteem. Well, you're not going to help 107 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: their self esteem by sending them out in the world 108 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: where they can't read or do math. And they can't 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 4: work a job. That's pretty hard on your self esteem too. 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 111 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, some intriguing questions from the veteran teacher. What 112 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: was the per capita number of books per child or 113 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: books per household twenty years ago? How about the minutes 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: per day that children interact with crayons, scissors, plato before 115 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: the age of five twenty years ago is compared to now? 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Now we have kindergarteners arriving to school where we are 117 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: now expected to send them to first grade as readers 118 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: who cannot identify, much less write their name, nor do 119 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: they know how to use crayons, and they've spent the 120 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: first five years coloring with fingertips on screens. I could 121 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: go on, and it's worth pointing out here is that 122 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: And a person could certainly say, well, this is the 123 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: computer age. 124 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: They don't need crowns or you know whatever. 125 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: But I unfortunately, as study after study has shown, handwriting 126 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: is an incredible stimulator of your brain, connecting the mechanical. 127 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: With the cerebral. 128 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: We're talking about your brain, and there's practically no substitute 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: for it for developing your brain. 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: But I'm that's true, But is it? 131 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: It's not the same though, when you're coloring in with 132 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: your finger on a tablet, because I've done that with 133 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: my kids when they would do that, it's very similar, 134 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. Or writing your fund writing with your 135 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: finger instead of holding a pen. I don't know why 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: that would be much different. 137 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: I am absolutely deeply in agreement with the need for 138 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: a complete overhaul the way public schools operate government schools, 139 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: but we have to talk about the ways that families 140 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: are or not setting their children and teachers up for 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: success with what they are doing with their children before 142 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: they reach the school doors. Thanks for beating the drums 143 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: for sanity, Kta Kacas, keep talking about our crazy ass schools. 144 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: It's a twenty year school, marm. 145 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: I will tell you this and this, this is a 146 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: statement that any sane, decent. 147 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: Person must agree with. That's a good setup. And I 148 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: will take all commers who deny that. 149 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: We need to approach the failings of our government schools 150 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 1: and the failings more generally of our kids to learn 151 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: and achieve with completely open eyes and honesty. And there 152 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: can be no sacred cow. I was spared if they 153 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: shouldn't be spared. Teachers' unions, we hammer them all the time. No, 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: you do not get to hide behind your rhetoric anymore. 155 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: There can't be any fear of quote unquote blaming the victims. 156 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: There can't be any fear of coming off as racist 157 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: or what have you. When you and your progressive policies 158 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: do them little black kids and brown kids or whatever 159 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: to low achievement and failure. That's not being nice to them. 160 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: That's the worst thing you could do to them. It's 161 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: got to be dealt with honestly and bluntly, and don't 162 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: have a lot of hope that that's going to happen. 163 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: And as we point it out yesterday, and I was 164 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: going to try to dredge up this article again by 165 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: the absolutely brilliant Harvard economists whose name is flitted out 166 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: of my head because I'm old. 167 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: They figured out how. 168 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: To turn around schools, and they did it successfully in Houston, 169 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: poor schools with poor kids. It's known what to do, 170 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: but the educational industrial complex has no interest in that. 171 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: Schools don't exist to teach your childs anymore, your children anymore. 172 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: They exist as a jobs program and a political patronage Program's. 173 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 4: Me, they're still doing the test scores up on CBS. 174 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: I'm happy to see because that should be a topic 175 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: and it has gone down ten points. I forget if 176 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: it was reading or math, which one it was, but 177 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: one of them has gone down ten points in the 178 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 4: thirty years they've been tracking it for seniors. That's an 179 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: amazing drop given how much more money we spend per 180 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: pupil on schools across the country. More money, less results. 181 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 4: But one of my blind spots would be, you know, 182 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: I only know my own socioeconomic experience. I don't know 183 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: what it's like for most of the country, or you know, 184 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 4: the bottom third or whatever of schools. Because that person 185 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: that just wrote about kids showing up to kindergarten without 186 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: any of the skills that can gardners used to have. God, 187 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: where I live, the kids show up, they've already know 188 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: how to play the cello and speak an of their language, 189 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: and they've been to Europe and all these different things. 190 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: But what I've always. 191 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 4: Wondered is it seems like the like kindergarten, first grade 192 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: is so much more advanced than it was when I 193 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 4: was a kid. 194 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: Where does the drop off occur. 195 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: From your doing like math that we used to do 196 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: in seventh grade in first grade but then somewhere in 197 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: between it like falls off a cliff. 198 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: That's what I don't. 199 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it is. 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Yeah, probably has something to do with 229 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: Taylor Swift. 230 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: Okay, ah, right. 231 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 4: I'm happy to see up on the screen. They're toalking 232 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: about it, and it says American Kids Test Scores declining 233 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 4: it should be talked about. It is a couldn't hardly 234 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: be a bigger deal. Like I said, as usual, finger 235 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 4: pointing goes in the wrong direction. 236 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, the dominant media, legacy media. 237 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Excuse me, We'll all be saying, therefore, we need more money, right. 238 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: And then what. 239 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: We've been throwing more money at it, and it's been 240 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 4: going in the wrong direction. You'd think for for decades, 241 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: you'd think that'd be enough to say, Okay, we gotta 242 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 4: try something different. 243 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd think, but. 244 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: Spanish progressivism has is their scam is easier to sell 245 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: than the truth. 246 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: But you said blue states, Red states with like phones 247 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 4: in the classroom. I don't know. Is that the way 248 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: it would break down? What's the Blue state argument for 249 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: phones in a classroom. 250 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: I've heard various arguments about. 251 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, the progressive parents who tend to vote in 252 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: blue states say I need to be able to get 253 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: together with my to connect with my kids, they've got 254 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: to have their phone. And I would I would be 255 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: willing to bet a substantial sum of money that helicopter parenting, 256 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: snowplow parenting is more prevalent in progressive families than in 257 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: conservative families. 258 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: Do you know anything have any experience with in this 259 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: new school year, kids with phones in the classroom? Do 260 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 4: you know anything about that? If you do text line FOURFTC. 261 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: Do you gotta see this? 262 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 6: The woman from the viral Coldplay kiss cam moment has filed. 263 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: For divorce from her husband. 264 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,119 Speaker 6: That's the first time someone listened their reason. 265 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: For divorce as jumbo trump. The woman now. 266 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 6: Wants to get away from the spotlight, so she's going 267 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:56,479 Speaker 6: to spend a few weeks with her sister in Philadelphia. 268 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 4: I uh, I don't want to take a joke serious 269 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: and get off on this, but I wish we would 270 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: change the way we talk about that in America, to 271 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: filed for divorce from their family as opposed to filed 272 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: from divorce from their husband or their wife. Because that's 273 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: what you're doing. I don't give a crap about the 274 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: dad or the mom. They'll get over it. The kids 275 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: though huge deal, never gets mentioned. It's an afterthought, and 276 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: I think it's horrible, but that's my gio. Filed for 277 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 4: divorce from her family, decided to leave, left her husband, 278 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: left her family, left her left his wife, no left 279 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: his family. I think would make more sense and be 280 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: more accurate. Mike Tyson says he was using fentanyl back 281 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: in the day, long before anybody even knew what it was. 282 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: Wow, he had he had. 283 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 4: Come across it somehow and somebody explained to him how 284 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: it was like, it's something like fire hundred times more 285 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: effective than morphine in terms of a pain killer. I've 286 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: had morphine a couple of times in my life when 287 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: I had my gullbladder out and then something around my cancer. 288 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: It's pretty effective. 289 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: I went from being in the worst pain in my 290 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: life to zero pain, like immediately what. 291 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: They put me on? The morphine? 292 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah amazing, And fentanyl's way, way, way, way more powerful 293 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: than that. But Tyson was taking it for his feet, 294 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: I guess, back in the day, and he's now happy 295 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: that he did not become more addicted. 296 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: Or die for it. Yeah yeah, wow. 297 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 4: He's a sixty year old man in the pot business 298 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: now mostly how he makes his money. And he's going 299 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 4: to fight Floyd Mayweather, some consider the greatest fighter of 300 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: all time. He's the most boring fighter of all time. 301 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: But anyway, Tyson's gonna fight him next year. 302 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: I guess so may Mayweather, who fought the crippled Filipino 303 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: man back in the day, Yes, one of the worst 304 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: pay per view events in the history of pay per view. 305 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: He also fought who's the lunatic Irishman? Conor McGregor. Conor McGregor, 306 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: I paid for that one. I think I paid like 307 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: one hundred bucks for that one. Uf Oof was right, 308 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? 309 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: I know a couple of surgeons who are just astounded 310 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: that fentanyl is a street drug now oh really just 311 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, It's just it's the idea that you're 312 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: buying it from some dude on the street and you're 313 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: trusting them to get the dosage right. It is just well, 314 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: it's it's so stupid. It could kill hundreds of thousands 315 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: of people. Whoops, I know nothing about this. 316 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: How many people are knowingly buying fentanyl as opposed to 317 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: it's in drugs to make them more addictive? 318 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 7: Do you know? 319 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: No idea? Is it mostly the first or you don't know? 320 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't know either. No, I honestly don't know. 321 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: I know there the truly insidious part is the second, 322 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: where it's used to beef up how high it gets 323 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: you and cut the cost and the rest of it. 324 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: But unfortunately people die a lot from it with no idea. 325 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: That they're going to ingest fentanyl and whatever form. 326 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyson said he was on it, uh for a 327 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 4: little while for his toe, mostly his tow wort, and 328 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 4: then when he stopped it, he was full on throwing 329 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: up and shakes and everything like that, and he's like, whoa, 330 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 4: what the heck? So it's crazy addictive, like really really 331 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: like almost immediately. 332 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: I was neglecting my pigeons. It was terrible. My tigers 333 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: was looking at me with disrespect. That's a good Mike, Tyson. 334 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: That's very good. Is it a mocking a lisp? Here 335 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: or here he bunch me right in the face. Oh, 336 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: that's just what he talks like. 337 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 4: That is what he sounds like. It's not mocking a list, 338 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 4: it's doing an impersonation. So give you an idea. 339 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: Of what it would sound like if Mike Tyson said that, 340 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: that's what it was. Indeed, he's gone soft thitter the mind. 341 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: Exactly, Michael, Exactly, Jack, you need a tough enoughses. 342 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 4: So one of the hottest stories in America is how 343 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: are all these lunatics who have committed so many crimes 344 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 4: out on the street to commit even worse crimes. We're 345 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 4: gonna talk one of the nation's leading experts on knowing 346 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: all about that coming up next. 347 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: And we got to change the way we do things 348 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: in this country. 349 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: What should you know about cash free bail that whole system. 350 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: Does it work? 351 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: No? And we'll talk about. 352 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: Why Armstrong and Getty. 353 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 4: President Trump says this murder was a result of state 354 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: democratic policies. 355 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: We saw are the results of these policies when. 356 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: A twenty three year old woman who came here from 357 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: Ukraine met her bloody and on a public train. 358 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, one of the policies we're talking about is 359 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: people not having to put up bail and getting to 360 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: head out onto the street and recommit crimes, which is 361 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 4: obviously horrifying. 362 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, the idea of cash free bail, which ends up 363 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: being catch and release, is very popular and lefty circles. 364 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: But what's the reality of it to discuss that in 365 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: some of these crimes that have happened recently. We're glad 366 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: to welcome longtime friend of the Armstrong in Getty Show 367 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: Topo Padilla, who's not only been a licensed baal agent 368 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: for forty two years, but just finished up his term 369 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: as president of the Golden State Bail Bonds Association California 370 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: and also the president of the Professional Bail Agents of 371 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: the United States, representing agents across the country. Topo, how 372 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: are you welcome? 373 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: Good's creagi be on here with you, guys. 374 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Hey, twenty seconds is probably enough for thirty seconds. Why 375 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: does bail exist? What is it and why is it important? 376 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 7: Bill has really one sole purpose up for most is 377 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 7: not as accountability. 378 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: Accountability that people go to. 379 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 7: Court and if a law enforcement officer arrest them and 380 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 7: they're charged with the crime, that they go to court 381 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 7: If they don't, it is our job to go return 382 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 7: them to court at no cost to the taxpayers. 383 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 4: And the experience is over many many years of doing 384 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 4: this is people are much more a likely to show 385 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: up for their court date and less likely to reoffend 386 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 4: while they're out there if there is money up because 387 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: of like family pressure. 388 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 7: Yes, it is accountability built by a bond. You know, 389 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 7: I don't want to use the word bail, bond and bond, 390 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 7: but we build bonds with the person that's in jail 391 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 7: and the people that are bailing them out, whether it's 392 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 7: family or friends that bail them out, and that bond 393 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 7: does in fact, and it's been shown Jeff reisig Da 394 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 7: of Yellow County Data study, and it showed that recidivism 395 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 7: happens when you have no skin in the game. And 396 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 7: what we do is we build that bond with our 397 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 7: clients to make sure that they go to court and 398 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 7: change their lives. That's it. You know, I don't throwing 399 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 7: people in jail, Okay, that's fine and dandy. Change their 400 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 7: lives and if you're held accountable, as we know as 401 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 7: raising children, you might change your ways. And that's that's 402 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 7: our objective in our criminal justice system is to change 403 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 7: people's ways. 404 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, one of the interesting effects of the bond 405 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: or the bail system is exists is you have family 406 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: and friends all get together with the bail agent and 407 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: the courts as a team to say, all right, look, 408 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: let's settle this problem in a smart way. Let's get 409 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: the best result possible. We're all going to cooperate. Let's 410 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: do this as opposed to a guy just skipping out 411 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: and doing more crimes. That's not doing them any favor. 412 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: What's the reality of the cash free bail, a system 413 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: that's lefty states are embracing. 414 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 7: Well, if I could say something, I was on the 415 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 7: phone the other day with somebody who's very very close 416 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 7: to the administration. In our profession, we have about eight 417 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 7: to ten people that are very close to the president's 418 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 7: this administration. And one of the things I said, hey, 419 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 7: can we get him? Does you quit using the word 420 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 7: cashless bail? And they said, no, he's not going to 421 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 7: quit using that term. It's a term he's latch onto. 422 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 2: But it's truly. 423 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was told that by somebody who's right next 424 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 7: to him. The real facts of the matter is this 425 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 7: just because it costs money to bail out of jail 426 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 7: through a bail bonds, and they used the merge money 427 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 7: bail or cash bail. No, it's a bail bond. And yes, 428 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 7: you pay for a bail bond, just like be for 429 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 7: car insurance, house insurance. It is a bail bond. So 430 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 7: there's a monetary amount set. When somebody's arrested, say it's 431 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 7: ten thousand dollars, they can put up ten thousand dollars 432 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 7: to the court and if that don't go to court, 433 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 7: they lose that ten thousand, or they can go through 434 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 7: a bail bond and pay us an insurance premium. And 435 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 7: that's what we do for the people that don't have 436 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 7: the money, for the people that aren't rich. And you're right, 437 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 7: which you said Jack moments ago. People will get together. 438 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 7: They'll band together to bail their loved one out and 439 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 7: they want to see them change as well. And that's 440 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 7: where our system does work. 441 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: But if you if you actually go to court like 442 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: you're supposed to, the bond is just ten percent of 443 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: the bail, right. 444 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: That's correig. 445 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 7: It's ten percent eight percent. There's different rates and different 446 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 7: states have different rates. Yeah, but yeah, that's what it is, 447 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 7: and that we put up that bail bond making sure 448 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 7: that you go to court. And I'm telling you guys, 449 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 7: the stats in my office, because I write bail a 450 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 7: little different, are over a ninety nine percent success rate 451 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 7: of returning people to court overall profession, it's a profession. 452 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 7: We have over a ninety eight percent success rate in 453 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 7: turning people to court. And if you compare that to 454 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 7: somebody who just signs a piece of paper and is released. 455 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 7: And if you look at that perpetrator, that murderer that 456 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 7: did what he did in North Carolina, that man he 457 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 7: knew there was nothing that was going to stop him, 458 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 7: so just he just kept many crimes, many crimes. And 459 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 7: that's a real tragedy. And it's sad that that young 460 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 7: lady has lost her life to bring this to the 461 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 7: forefront of this country. 462 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: What is the catch and releases? 463 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: That the term you prefer instead of cash list bail, 464 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: What should we be saying. 465 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 7: No, no, no, It should be secured bail. And this 466 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 7: is what I said to the advisors that. 467 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: I was speaking to. 468 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 7: It should be called secure bail because we put up security. 469 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: We put up in a bond. 470 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 7: If somebody puts up to the whole ten thousand dollars. 471 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 7: That's secured bail. There's a secured bill. There's one day 472 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 7: I will tell you, guys a story about happened in 473 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 7: Plasma County that had something to do with a father 474 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 7: putting up cash in the sun running but that secure. 475 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 7: I would ready to see the term secured bail and 476 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 7: unsecured bail, cashless bail is a term that it's getting 477 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 7: people's attention. But the bottom line is we want people 478 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 7: to go to court, we want them to be held accountable, 479 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 7: we want them to change their ways, and it's just 480 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 7: a system that has been trounced on. However, as you 481 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 7: guys know, in twenty eighteen Proposition twenty five, the voters 482 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 7: overwhelmingly by more than two million votes, said we do 483 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 7: not want to eliminate bail bonds. 484 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: That within the state of California. 485 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 7: Correct, That is correct, So we won there. Yeah, but 486 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 7: that should resonate across this country. 487 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: Even in California. People think the whole you ain't got 488 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 4: to have any skin in the game is. 489 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: Nuts, right, It's the whole protected class and unprotected class. 490 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: The elite intellectuals who hold these what are often referred 491 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: to as luxury beliefs because you know, you're affluent, college educated, 492 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: only white people who have no idea how the real 493 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: world actually works. They congratulate themselves for holding these beliefs, 494 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: but meanwhile, in the hood, the people know exactly how 495 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: it works, and they hate the idea. 496 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: One more thought topo. 497 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: You put it out in some of the written stuff 498 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: you gave us that when you just sign a piece 499 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: of paper say yeah, I'll show up to court whatever, 500 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: and it's unsecured, that fugitive rates skyrocket and when people 501 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: are on the run, they're more app to reoffend. 502 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 2: So this actually leads to more crime. 503 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 7: Absolutely, And one of the things I put in there 504 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 7: that I really have to bring we in the bail 505 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 7: profession created a fugitive. We have a fugitive problem in 506 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 7: this country, We truly do. And those fugitives are not 507 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 7: out on bail. They are truly out on unsecured release. 508 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 7: And we, as bail bondsmen, are now being stimied because 509 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 7: of a case that happened in Missouri from going across 510 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 7: state lines ay fugitive and bringing him back. And we 511 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 7: are hoping that the President looks at our executive order 512 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 7: and understands all we want to do is do our 513 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 7: job and be able to apprehend fugitives no matter where 514 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 7: they go, because we do have a fugitive problem. And Joe, 515 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 7: as a matter of fact, in my forty two years, 516 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 7: when people are fugitives, they're not living right, they're not working, 517 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 7: they're not taking care of their family right, They're on 518 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 7: the run. In Los Angeles in twenty eighteen, there were 519 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 7: more than two point one million warrants. Jim Cooper brought 520 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 7: that to the Assembly floor when he was an assemblement 521 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 7: and said that today, I promise you that is over 522 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 7: three point five million active warrants. People that are wanted, 523 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 7: that are wanted. Every time they see a cop, their 524 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 7: stomach turns. And that's a problem we have in this 525 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 7: country as hugitive. 526 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 2: Wow. 527 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: Topo Padilla president until just very recently of the professional 528 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: bail Agents of the United States. 529 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: Topo. 530 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: Great stuff, great information. Let's stay in touch on this. 531 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: It's important. Thanks you got it. Thank you guys. 532 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 4: So that's all true, and I believe it. The statistics 533 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 4: back it up and everything like that. Having skin in 534 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 4: the game for the individual and then the people that 535 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: you know around them to keep them. 536 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: Accountable to show up all that sort of stuff. 537 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 4: This horrible case in Charlotte, the blonde girl being hacked 538 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: to death by this lunatic. The guy's completely crazy. That 539 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: guy's completely crazy. That is mostly a failure of our well, 540 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 4: our judicial system, our mental health, the way we deal 541 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: with all of that. 542 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: But the guy is crazy. His mom knew he was crazy, 543 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 2: his dad knew he was crazy. The cops knew he. 544 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: Was crazy, dangerously and dangerously crazy. They were like, he's 545 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 4: going to do something horrible sometime. We got to come 546 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 4: up with a way to deal with that. 547 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I want to talk more about that after 548 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: a quick word from our friends at Simply Save Home Security. 549 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: The traditional security systems, which were also overpriced and bulky, 550 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: so people didn't actually use them, just. 551 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: Went off after they smashed in your windows. 552 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: Right, Well, here's how simply Safe is designed to be proactive, 553 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: not real active. 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We've we've got to be moving toward. 570 00:28:52,920 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 4: And I think we are with public awareness, a more willing, 571 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 4: more willingness to lock up crazy people against against their will. 572 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just have to. 573 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: And look, we are more than acquainted with the excesses 574 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: of the past that can be dealt with. We have 575 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: so overcorrected, I mean, like in a way that is 576 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: well mad, it's crazy in itself. The brilliant Nelly Bowls 577 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: of the Free Press wrote one of my favorite things 578 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: that I've seen about this horrible case in Charlotte and 579 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: how it came to be, And she describes the story 580 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: and she says there are many angles to this story, 581 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: the media blackout that followed the mayor's response that offered 582 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: more sympathy to the killer than the killed. He was, well, 583 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: I know, I know, she is absolutely evil. He was 584 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: well known to law enforcement, having been arrested at least 585 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: fourteen times. Over and over, he was arrested and released. 586 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: The obvious question is why was this man walking free? 587 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: The answer is simple, and you know I've expressed this 588 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: several times. When she does it more eloquently, says, we 589 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: don't like to incarcerate our maniacs until they kill. Mental 590 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: institutions have been deemed too terrible an option. So in America, 591 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: every lunatic gets one free murder. A lunatic who runs 592 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: around trying to kill someone for years should at least 593 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: get one before he is locked up. Right, Irena Zerutzko 594 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: was de Carlos Brown Junior's one free murder, And they 595 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: have several stories about that topic. 596 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: But that's right. 597 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: You can do anything until you murder somebody. Then we'll 598 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: incarcerate you. Then we will separate you from all of 599 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: your potential victims. But you get to murder somebody, well, 600 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: we got to change that, Oh yes we do, and 601 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: soon and I'm not sure how much can be done 602 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: at the federal level, but it's it's a social thing, 603 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: you know. Politics is always downstream of society, of the 604 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: morals and beliefs of the people. Culture in short, and 605 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: we've got to change the culture and help people understand 606 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: that the progressive crime policies are madness in themselves. 607 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: They're nuts. 608 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: Depends on where you live, of course, but where I live, 609 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: I walk by somebody that probably should be locked up 610 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 4: every single day, every day, often parking my car here 611 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 4: work and walk into the building. 612 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: But to other places every. 613 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 4: Day I come in contact with people that almost certainly 614 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: should be locked up by the state. 615 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: Speaking of which came across something. It's one of the 616 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: most unbelievable, astounding failures of journalism ever. Seattle Times, I'm 617 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: looking at you. We'll have that for you in moments. 618 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: More excerpts from Kamala Harris's book, which are out today. 619 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: Stirring. 620 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 4: Stirring is the word I would choose. It's a blame athon, 621 00:31:52,920 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: among other things. On the way stay here the new 622 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: pull out from New York City about Momdani with a 623 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 4: giant lead. I mean, it's most people are calling in 624 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: a lock I mean, there'd have to be some extraordinary 625 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 4: event at this point, and what does that mean for 626 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: our national politics? 627 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk about that in hour three. 628 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: Also next hour of Vladimir Putin putting a thumb in 629 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: the eye of NATO flying a bunch of drones deep 630 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: into Polish airspace? 631 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: Holy cow? What does it mean? We'll get to that. 632 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: So continuing briefly our discussion of the horrific murder of 633 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: the young woman in Charlotte and the you know, turning 634 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: back onto the street over and over again a violently 635 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: crazy person, one of the really great pieces of writing 636 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: thinking journalism by kat Rosenfield in The Free Press. She 637 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: points out the greater issue is a cultural one. She's 638 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: talking about how you know conservatives have latched on to 639 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: this is yet another example of the idea that we 640 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: must let serial offenders just stay on the streets for 641 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: some reason. And she writes, while this vicious crime plausibly 642 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: represents the policy chickens of twenty twenty coming home to roost, 643 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: that only halfway explains why the story is so captured 644 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: to the public imagination. The greater issue is a cultural one, 645 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: a growing frustration with what often feels like limitless tolerance 646 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: for public disorder and anti social behavior, and with it 647 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: a sense that one must not only avoid discussing these 648 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: things to remain a liberal in good standing, but actively 649 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: pretend that they don't exist. And she talks about the 650 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: media blackout in the wake of this murder, which didn't 651 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: last because it's too horrifying and big and for the 652 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: reasons we're discussing. But like Wikipedia, the editors are trying 653 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: to take the page down that discusses the murder. You've 654 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: got to actively stop people from talking about it. 655 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: Which brings me to what I t which is. 656 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: The almost hilarious failure of the Seattle Times. It's an 657 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: article written by one Greg Kim mayoral candidates take opposing 658 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: tax on homelessness response, and it's you know, fine in 659 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: describing that about how the two main candidates. One is 660 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: intent on removing tents and making public spaces usable again. 661 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: Parks and sidewalks. We got to keep them clear, and 662 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: we got to get people off of them and let 663 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: the citizens, you know, do what they do. And the 664 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: progressive challenger wants to take a more compassionate approach. She 665 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: agrees that public spaces need to be used for their 666 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: intended purposes, but says the city needs to get there 667 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: by dramatically increasing its shelter capacity, which means finding new 668 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: progressive revenue sources, new taxes. Okay, here's the punchline. This 669 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: is a fairly long article. It's several hundred words, and 670 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: I actually did. I read it, then did a search 671 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: to confirm it. It does not once mention drugs wow 672 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: or drug abuse, not once, and that is the. 673 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 4: The leading reason for the street person problem. Yeah, they're 674 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 4: junkie camps. These ten camps are junkie camps. They're drug 675 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: abuser camps, the vast, vast majority of it. 676 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: And this entire article carries with it exactly what cap 677 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: Rosenfield was talking about. 678 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: In the free press. 679 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: You're forbidden to talk about the actual dynamics of what's 680 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: happening to remain a liberal in good standing like this 681 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: so called journalist, and the entire article is an implication 682 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: that the homeless are merely people who need housing. 683 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 2: It's almost hilarious. 684 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 4: I can't think of another example of this ever, when 685 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 4: there's a major issue, but we don't talk about by. 686 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: Far, the main part of it, and so. 687 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 4: It was saddled themselves where they had a study that 688 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 4: showed ninety percent of the street people were drug addicts. 689 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: Right now, remember the percentage, but a huge percentage were 690 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: from elsewhere who had come to Seattle because they made 691 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: it so easy and comfortable to be a drug addict. 692 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 2: So then you just go the same. 693 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 4: So then you discuss how to fix the street person problem, 694 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: and drugs does not make an appearance in the conversation. 695 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 2: Can't think of another example, right, not even in passing. 696 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: That's hilarious, wild, it's bizarre and troubling too. 697 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 4: I'll bet it wasn't even on purpose. It was that 698 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: they're so married to there's a French term for it, 699 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 4: feakes id or something like ide feaks, but it's you're 700 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: so you're so swimming in a particular view of something. 701 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 2: Right. They probably didn't even have to do that on purpose. 702 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 4: They're just so stuck in the idea that this is 703 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 4: an unfair e canomics. 704 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: Issue right, right, And anything that would distract from that 705 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: narrative is for boten, even if it means ignoring a 706 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: huge part of the problem. Or this guy might say 707 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: it's a small part of the problem, but anyway, there's 708 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: an agreement on the left. You do not admit to 709 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: inconvenient truths that might give the evil conservatives you a 710 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: tool to to overturn your policies with 711 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 4: What jobs are the most AI proof according to a poem, 712 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 4: among other things, Next time Armstrong and Getty