1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Bootleg keV Podcast. All Right, 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: we got an episode today with the Detroit legend Pyro Giovanni, 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: founding member of Doe Boys cash Out. Been on a 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: solo tear for the last I don't know, I would 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: say seven eight years. So he's a Detroit legend. Used 6 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: to be signed to Geez. He been doing his thing 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: independently for a minute, so we got to sit down 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: and chop it up with him. Can't wait for y'all 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: to hear it. 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Detroit's finest, Pyro 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Giovanni is here. Yeah. Yeah, what though, what's up? Man? Welcome? 29 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Man, I just saw you in the bay Yo, 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: help me understand the uh what is the love relationship 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: between the Bay Area and Detroit. It's always been a thing. Yeah, 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: it's been before me, you know, it seemed like it's 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: been since the beginning of the time. But a lot 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: of Detroit dudes used to go to get money. Yeah, 35 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: so I think the lingo and the culture kind of 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, transferred game like that. So we always been 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: like related, like cousins. Yeah, it feels like Detroit has 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: so much in common, like especially you know, like you said, 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: like they're just always sonically, it just feels like y'all 40 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: are in the same pocket kind of when it comes 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: to culture. And yeah, like I grew up on the 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Street Lords. It was a big, big group in Detroit, 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: and they used to have like be legit two short 44 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: e forty all of them on the album. So it 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: was like, should we started listening to them just off 46 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: of that right right right right? So you know, and 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: sound sound the same. Can we talk about I don't 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: know if we're allowed to talk about the fact that 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a reunion album coming? Oh yeah, yeah, 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: no boy cash out? So yeah, yeah, So so this 51 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: is the first album and how long or first project? 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Probably about five five six years. Yeah, yeah, we're working 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: on it's like ninety percent done. It ain't all the 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: way done. What motivated You've been obviously killing it on 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: the solo shit, but like what motivated the crew to 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: come back together? Man? We always been together, like we 57 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: never broke up. Well, I mean just as far as 58 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: just making you know, like making the studio and making 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: that effort to like actually put a body of work together. 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Like it just had to be the perfect time. I 61 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: wanted to be organic because we didn't got in there 62 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: and made music. But it just it seemed forced. I 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: don't know, I think everybody had to get some some 64 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: real money. It was like that's because we first started rapping, 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: and it was like it was a hobby. It wasn't 66 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: like we was making music to make money. It was 67 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: just like let's get on here and talk some shit. 68 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: And it was just a time where we just all 69 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: had we was all doing good. Everyone's doing good. Ye 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: come together, let's do Let's do it because we want to, 71 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: not because we have to, exactly, and that's the best music. Yeah, 72 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: we made a project. How does it feel to be 73 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: like you know, you you mentioned some of the guys 74 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: you grew up listening to, But how does it kind 75 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: of feel to be uh, you're kind of like low 76 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: key like OG's in the city now to like a 77 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: whole new way of a Detroit artist. Man, that's a blessing. Man, 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: It's an honor. You know. I remember just being young 79 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: just watching the ogs like Blade and Street Lords and 80 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: east Side Shuttle Boys, all of them on TV. Like damn, 81 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, I love to be in that light day 82 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: in and for dudes to compare me to like Blade 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: or Street Lows, you know, that's that's an honor. That's 84 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: like the highest honor in Detroit. Yeah, Detroit seems to 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: be like on fire right now, you know so much. 86 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Detroit's always had it's place in hip hop. 87 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: You don't feel like, listen, I'm from Phoenix. We have 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: zero place in hip hop. We've never had nothing pop off. 89 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: Like it's been rough my whole life Detroit. At least, 90 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, going back to the nineties, you could eat 91 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, obviously there was always Royce or eminem and 92 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: then you know Dyla and you know, I feel like 93 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: even like insane clown Posse was from around Detroit, you 94 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I feel like, y'all, I've 95 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: always had a presence in hip hop, but but I 96 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: feel like, right now it feels like a whole wave, 97 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Detroit always just had 98 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: like a super underground scene music scene, like super artists, 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: that's our own heroes like this, our Tupac, this, our 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: Hot Boys and this and that, and it seemed like 101 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: it never got mainstream, like it just only would go 102 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: to Detroit and other Midwest cities and that was it. 103 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: And we used to be like why, like, you know, 104 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: dudes has got more money and more jury than these 105 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: rappers on TV. So it shit sound good, Like why 106 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: the fuck we don't never get there? And it used 107 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: to be like a headache, Like damn what you know? 108 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: What's crazy? Detroit and Chicago share two kind of things 109 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: in my eyes as far as like there's two sides. 110 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: I feel like to like the sonics of the city 111 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: hip hop wise, Like in Detroit there's some of the 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: illest boom back traditional just incredible hip hop that you 113 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: ever hear, and then there's the street side of the 114 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: hip hop scene. And I feel like Chicago's kind of 115 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: the same way, Like Chicago's the same city that birth 116 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: Chance and Kanye and Common and you know what I'm saying. 117 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: But on the other side, there's the drill shit. Like 118 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: it feels like there's two separate kind of sounds and 119 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: scenes going on in Detroit, but they do kind of, 120 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: you know, our times come together. But why is that? 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, because you know, Detroit is a it's a 122 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: diverse city. You got the street side and you got 123 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: like at the arts cy freestyle hip hop side. That 124 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: freestyle ship is serious out there, Like it's dudes that 125 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: go to the halls and freestyle battle and all of that, 126 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: like the ship on Black Milk or Guilty Sense. Obviously, 127 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But we all respect each other. 128 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it's all love. But 129 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, Detroit is a it's a street orientated city. 130 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you feel like Detroit 131 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: is getting better? Because I've heard that, Like the dude 132 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: the Calves is like buying up a bunch of real 133 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: estate and cleaning it up. Like and my boy lives 134 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: in Troy. He does radio in Detroit and at the Bounce. 135 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: But he's he was saying, like ever since he's been there, 136 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: he feels like the city is getting built back up, 137 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: like it's starting to look better. Like, how do you 138 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: feel about where Detroit is right now? I feel like 139 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: it's doing a lot better. I feel like, you know, 140 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: our downtown for show looked better because you like I 141 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: would hear you could buy like fucking hundred dollars houses 142 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: in the Troite or some crazy ship like that right there. 143 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: People for the low be a fixture of her. Yeah, 144 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: but you could like out forty thousand into it. You 145 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: put seventy into a house and you know you're gonna 146 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: have a nice crib. How much? Really? I heard when 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: we're in an empire in the Bay, I heard you mentioned, uh, 148 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: you would talk. We got a game coming out called 149 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: out of Pocket. But you you mentioned real estate? Are you? 150 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Are you pretty tapped in on the real estate side. 151 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm getting into it. Like my first experience in the 152 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: real estate it was a horror story, so I kind 153 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: of like backed away from it, Like what happened? Man? 154 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: I bought a house and uh, it was just a 155 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: raggedy ass house and it just it just went bad. 156 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: But I had got one of those houses. I had 157 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: bad intentions with it. I'm gonna put it like, oh okay, okay, 158 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: you know I had a whole plan to do with it. 159 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: It just didn't go right. So I just kind of 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: left it alone. You Like, Damn, I basically wasted like 161 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars on this. It could have been worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 162 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: ten granted. But my man is one of my clothes homeboys. 163 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: He like own like amner half our neighborhood. Seeing what 164 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: he be doing, I just be learning. I'm just getting 165 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: game from him. So you're starting to get into that. Yeah, Yeah, 166 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: for sure, Yeah, can you take me back because I 167 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: remember when you guys signed with g Z. I was thinking, like, 168 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: because I would heard of you guys and heard some 169 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: of your stuff, I was thinking like wow, like dope, 170 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: like some of the street shot out of Detroit was 171 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: getting like a real mainstream look at the time, and 172 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: it obviously seemed like it didn't work out. It didn't 173 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: work out. You know what I'm saying, What do you 174 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: think when it went wrong with with the CTE situation, 175 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: because I want to say, you guys came into CTE 176 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: like right after Freddy Gibbs had left. Yeah, it was 177 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: like the YG dope. Yeah, so it was like around 178 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: that same era as CTE. Yeah, like what went wrong? 179 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I think we wasn't ready for real. 180 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: That was that was new to us, Like we was 181 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: used to just being independent. We really wasn't taking that 182 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: rap shit serious like that. Like we kind of stumbled 183 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: up on it like still out yeah, and we was 184 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: following our path like Okay, now we gotta do this, 185 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: do that. When we got there, it was kind of 186 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: like Okay, who is your pr who's your man? We like, shit, 187 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: we ain't got to learn that ship what is that? 188 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: What does that mean? He was learning as we were, 189 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: so you know, it was a whole type of different 190 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: experience for us. And the Detroit sound really wasn't popping 191 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: like that at the time. They kind of wanted us 192 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: on them, uh to attract ship them them trapped me 193 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: right right. That ship just sounded horrible, like it just 194 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: didn't mesh. Yeah, they like, man, it sounded like some 195 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: old cash money ship. What y'all doing? Why the beat 196 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: so fast? I ain't really understand it like that. Damn. 197 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I feel like at the timing wasn't good. Timing just 198 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: wasn't good, not at all. I mean because the YG 199 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: thing worked out? Yea, why g shit worked out? I 200 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: watched him make that whole first album. Was that like 201 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: was there like a because I feel like there was 202 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: like a weird period of time where like there was 203 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: like all the old guys from CTE had left, like 204 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and then you guys were 205 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: like the new regime and the old guys didn't have 206 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: good things to say about about Freddy years. Yeah that good, Yeah, 207 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: fred it was Aaron fucking jez out. Did you guys 208 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: ever feel like like you kind of had to like 209 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: have Jiz's back and a lot of that. Man. Yeah, 210 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm here to get my money, feed my family. Man, 211 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't in here. It in no beefs man. 212 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: That's smart man, Yeah, that's just serious of course, of 213 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: course some music ship. I'm chilling. What was something that 214 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: you learned though from that experience or maybe from j 215 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: Z that you because you know, you've been doing independently 216 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: a lot of boss ship the last you know, seven 217 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: eight years, So like, what's something you took from that 218 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: experience or from j Z directly that you've kind of 219 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: applied to your your career now. His work ethic, like, 220 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: dude just non stop, like and that was like my 221 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: first time ever being in the studio to like seven 222 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: in the morning. Oh yeah those are them nights. Yeah, 223 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: Like I never used to do that. I come in 224 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: the studio two three hours and I'm gonna do what 225 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: you gotta do. Get home. So when I was with him, 226 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, why are we doing this? Like we're in 227 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: studio till fucking daylight? Like I'm fucking that ship every 228 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: day and I'm like, man, this dude is a multi millionaire, 229 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: so we gotta put in double the work, right, So 230 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: I started applying that just going to the studio every day. YO. 231 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: Talk about because when was the first project when Carter 232 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: was at twenty sixteen? I want to say sixteen or fifteen. 233 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: I ain't sure what inspired you to do? Uh? First 234 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: of all, get with Cardo, and I feel like, uh, 235 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: you kind of you know, have influenced some other stuff 236 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: happening in hip hop right now. But but but I 237 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: feel like you and Cardo definitely came together and did 238 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: your thing. Man, we're both those projects. But how did 239 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: that happen? Really? Gez Geez, yeah, Gez. He had flew 240 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: me out to Atlanta and we was working on a project. 241 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: What it was going to be me Cardo and Ygi 242 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: and Gezi. It was gonna be a group. Really, it 243 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: was all Cardo produced, and we made a whole project 244 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: that was hard. So you Cardo, Ygi and Gez. Yeah, 245 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: And that was supposed to be like a super roup, 246 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: was called like Paid in Full or something like that. 247 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: And you guys did a whole project, whole project. We 248 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: had beasts from Warren g Dazz Dillinger, what DJ Quick 249 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: and Cardo did like all other beats and it was 250 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: a hard project, but for some reason it never saw 251 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: the day of light. Yeah, but that's where me and 252 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: Cardo found our niche like we found our pocket. You know, 253 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of them nights in them studios together. How 254 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: many how many songs did you guys do for that project? 255 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: I think we had about a good twelve about ten 256 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: twelve last album. Yeah, we all have solo songs and 257 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: group songs. It was hard. Damn When would that see 258 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: the day of light? If ever, I don't know who 259 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: has that jesz Jzu, it's up to him. You got 260 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: on a hard drive. It's on a hard drive just 261 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: sitting somewhere. Yeah, that shit, man classic. Wow, that sounds 262 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: like that's like one of them albums is like gonna 263 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: be focal or for now every Yeah, that shit was special. 264 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: I was excited about that. Y. Yeah, are you and 265 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: YG still keeping contact? I ain't talked to YG in 266 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: a minute, but that's you know, it's still love for show. Yeah, 267 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: A good dude. And then obviously, just like we were 268 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: talking about the scene in Detroit, Detroit seems like it's 269 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: always been like historically like super divided depending on what 270 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: side you're from, Like what side of town you're from. 271 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: There seems to be like less of that recently, like 272 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: people working together shit like that, Like is that is that? 273 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: You know obviously you and PZ got a whole album together. 274 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: Like how's the Detroit scene right now? You feel like 275 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: as far as just like the camaraderie and you know, 276 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: it feels like there's more people moving together as opposed 277 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: to I feel like it's good, Like we're in a 278 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: good space. It ain't you know, it ain't really much 279 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: beef going on, like everybody really just putting that shit 280 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: to the side and getting their money with his music 281 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: shit because that's where a bag is. And then that 282 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: big Sean Ceipher was fucking crazy, Yeah, because I don't think. 283 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't because I talked to side of Baby and 284 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: he had like no idea that like T Grizzly was 285 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: going to be on there, and like, yeah, you know, 286 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: like he put just everyone. I don't think everyone did 287 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: you know that? Like I had an idea everybody you 288 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be on there. But I get along 289 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: with everybody. I ain't. I ain't here. Yeah, I wasn't 290 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: like I don't put me on a song with him, 291 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: Like how big of a deal. Is that like to 292 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: have like Sean do that? You know, man Sean been 293 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 1: showing us love from day one of course, like when 294 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: he didn't even have to. He been shouting us out 295 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: on songs and reaching out doing songs with us. So 296 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I got I got a lot of respect for Big Sean, 297 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: like he's been embracelests one. Remember you said it's about 298 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: time that Shawn's been popping for a long time. Yeah, yeah, 299 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: for sure, long ass time for sure. Man. It's crazy 300 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: because like I feel like his album with the Detroit 301 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: two was like it's his best, his best body of 302 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: work so far. Man Sewan cold, man, he's been cold 303 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: like that though he used to record at the studio. 304 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: He used to record it before he I think before 305 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: he signed with Kanye. Oh wow. Yeah, like he been 306 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: taking that raption seriously. Yeah, it's crazy to think his 307 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: first album came out ten years ago. He celebrated the 308 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: ten year anniversary and I just was like, fuck, I'm 309 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: old man as hell. I remember when that ship for 310 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: came out. Old is it like him and Mike posing 311 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: and running around dode mixtapes and shit, And it's crazy. 312 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: So you I know you have so that the double Cash, 313 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: that album is coming, and then you're you got a 314 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: new solo album. Yeah, working on it, which is is 315 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: how close is that to being done? About ninety ninety 316 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: five percent? Waiting on a couple verses people, and I 317 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: heard you talking about it in San Francisco. A bit 318 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: kind of breakdown, like the concept of the album, Like 319 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: it's called Giovanni's Way. It's something I've been like promoting 320 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: for like five six ers. Every time I was about 321 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: to come out with it, something else presented itself, like 322 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: Cardo or something, and I just get sidetracked. But I'm 323 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: finally about to drop it. It's basically like everything that 324 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: led me to this point. I'm basically just speaking on 325 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: all of that, all my experiences, everything, What features are 326 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: already on the project, uh t Grizzly and Pasy Cash 327 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: dolluh sh. I think that's it right now, Detroit, Yeah, Yeah, 328 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm reaching out to other people too. But if you 329 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: had it for show, wanted Detroit on her be. If 330 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: you had to pick someone from the Bay to do 331 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: a whole project with, who would be somebody from the Bay. Yeah, man, 332 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: I fuck with a lot of Bay Area. I feel 333 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: like you, Larry June or Cargo, Larry Jone. You know, 334 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: we got a whole project called Game Related. I didn't 335 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: know that. Me my man's HBK Larry June, all Cardo 336 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: Beats All Cardo b We just like threw it out 337 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: there like it wasn't really promoted, none of that. Who else, 338 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: like from the bait would you kind of consider to be? Like, 339 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, you're in the Bay a lot, Like, who's 340 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: somebody who you would kind of consider to be, you know, 341 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: more than a hip hop affiliate. Everyone fucks with each other, 342 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But there's very few friends. 343 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: I fuck with a lot of dudes on the Baby 344 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: Man Filthy Rich of course, Yeah, of course, E forty 345 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: be legit, a lot of og you know og catch. 346 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm getting hip to the 347 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: younger dudes though. Yeah, there's a whole there's a lot 348 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, the Bay's like Detroit. I feel like 349 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: there's like so much new coming out and it's just 350 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: like I can't even keep up with it. That's how 351 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: the trade is. Like I'll be like, what is this? 352 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: Like I see everybody singing in the club. I'm like, oh, 353 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to know what the shit is? Like, what 354 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: is you know? It's crazy, it's crazy. Yeah. What about like, 355 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of like let's say ten years 356 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: from now, man, where do you like, like where where 357 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: do you want your legacy to stand that you still 358 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: want to be rapping? Do you still want to like 359 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: do you want to kind of have some other ship 360 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: going on at that point in time? I want to 361 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: be a CEO man, I want to just fall back, 362 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: you know, kind of play the background. Just have a 363 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: bunch of successful artists out there. So you're signing artists, Yeah, yeah, 364 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: that's most definitely like my next thing I'm about to 365 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: get into. You know who's done a good job of 366 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: that is I think that I always give got to 367 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: give him his prosper yo got yeah, so amazing. He 368 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: raised the bar like he raised the touch. It's crazy. 369 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And like you know, I think what's important 370 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: about that is like you got to actually want whoever 371 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 1: you're signing to be bigger than you. If you're going 372 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: to be an artist who signs other artists, like you 373 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: have to put your ego to the side and genuinely 374 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: want that person to be bigger than you ever were. 375 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: It make your legacy bigger, like all these people came 376 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: from up under him, Like you know, that's that make 377 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: your legacy huge, make it go forever. One hundred. Yeah. 378 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: How did you react to just the pandemic Detroit? Was 379 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: it like super close down there? Yeah, it was shut 380 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: down for a minute. It was shut down for a 381 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: long ass time. But everybody was balling. Everybody's getting money. 382 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: Everybody's getting that money. Man, it was. It was like 383 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: fucking the eighties. It was crazy that that that fucking 384 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: PPP money. Yeah boom. Yeah. I went to the uh 385 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: we got a mark called Somerset. It's like the high 386 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: end mall it was, and she was like a zoo. 387 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: It was just people in there, just fighting and shooting 388 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: and robbing. I'm like, god damn, like people in this 389 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: mall had never been in this mall in they life. Yeah. No, 390 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: I know. I have like close friends of mine who 391 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: have hit serious six figure government looks during the pandemic. 392 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: It's it's wild. Yeah, it's just you have a dude, 393 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: young dude. Put It's like tax season times one hundred. 394 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: But it's like everyone's got It's it's insane, man. Yeah, 395 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: it's like serious as hell, like I'm about to get 396 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: it for a right next week. Careful. Yeah you might 397 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: want to be careful. That might be a red flag. Yeah, 398 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: you might want to, you know, get one of them 399 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: ten thousand other houses. Yeah, yeah, no, they ain't think 400 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, it's it's wild. Yo. How how how 401 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: does like the you know, because I'm a big sports 402 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: guy and obviously there's Detroit is a big sports city, 403 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: y'all got out all the fucking teams. But how how 404 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: like how does the you know, the Pistons, Allions, Tigers 405 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: like coincide with the culture in the city, Like, because 406 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, some cities will see like 407 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: Quavo on the fucking on the hardwood at the Hawks game, 408 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: ship like that, and I feel like the Pistons are trash. 409 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh I don't do it. I mean, I mean they are. 410 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: You guys got the number one pick in the draft. 411 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you're good. I mean I'm not. I'm 412 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: not a big sports dude, right, but I like support 413 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: the players, like tapping with the scene out there. Yeah yeah, 414 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: I just did something with the Pistons, just did something 415 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: with them. We're coming with some whole ship, you know, 416 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: So you did something. What are you doing with the 417 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: Pistons time? I ain't gonna really you know, I don't 418 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: think I could speak of it yet, but you know, 419 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: they come with like their own show through the years. 420 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: Was there like a player on the Pistons or the 421 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: lines that like you ended up like like really connected 422 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: with them, fucking with that. Really got to embrace what 423 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: was going on in Detroit, because I feel like the 424 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: players be on the Pistons ain't had a franchise player 425 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: in a minute, they'd be they be in there like 426 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: year two years and they out, Okay, No I ain't, 427 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: ain't I ain't connect with nobody for real. No, I'd 428 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: have ran into them here and there they show love. 429 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: It's been a while since it was Ben Wallace and 430 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: Rip Hamilton and that's actually who I ran it too. 431 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: I ran Ben Wallace at the club the leg show Love. 432 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: You know, was this recently? This is about probably about 433 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: four years ago. That's still crazy. Ben Wallace had the Love. Yeah, 434 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: that's like ye Upscale club, you know, gotta be a 435 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: nice place. Yeah. What do you think is the biggest 436 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: misconception about perro Giovanni That I'm an asshole? And I 437 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: mean because I don't talk much. Like if I don't 438 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: know you, I don't I'm not gonna talk to you. 439 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna introduce myself to you. That's just some 440 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Detroit shit. Like we you know, you kind of be standoffish, 441 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: but I'm a cool you know, like back cat Man. 442 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: Is there anything that you can do to like get 443 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: you because I feel like you're super chill. Right. We 444 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: see T Grizzly doing Twitch and playing games and ship 445 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: and like we can see a whole nother like side 446 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: of Ta Grizzly that nobody ever would know existing. Is 447 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: there anything like that that you might, you know, get into, 448 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: whether it's doing some podcasts and ship or or I mean, 449 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm open for it, you know, I'm over for it. 450 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: I was actually thinking about doing my own podcast or 451 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: something just to share my thoughts and things like, yeah, 452 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: that shouldn't be up. Know what I feel about this 453 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: and feel about that, But I'd be like man in 454 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: the world so sensitive get you might get canceled. They're 455 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: gonna hang you, or they're gonna love you. Hey. I 456 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: feel like Boozy is like cancel proof, you know, boot 457 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: don't give He said the most craziest ship and everyone 458 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: still loves them. Yeah, Boots don't give he don't give 459 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: a fuck manu with Boosy too. Hey. When we would 460 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: always hear, like, you know, coming up in as fans 461 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: of a hip hop like always would hear about Trick 462 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: Trick and the no flies one thing, right, and then 463 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: there's the historical instance of Ross not being allowed to perform, 464 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: which was a real thing that happened people who don't know. 465 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't know the details right right, right right, but 466 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: but that that no flies on thing, like it's like 467 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: it's like almost like hip hop Folkalore where it's like 468 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: if you feel like when you go to Detroit, you 469 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: gotta check it with somebody. Is that something that's like real? 470 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: Or is it more like is it Trick Trick? Most 471 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: definitely is real? Do I know that Trick Trick is 472 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: super like? Trick Trick and Google Squad ain't dudes, ain't 473 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: for no games man, they've been they've been doing that 474 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: is the nineties. I just did a song with Trick 475 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: Trick too, that's the Trick Trick man. He just had 476 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: the hip hop uncovered on FX. He actually got a 477 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: show Sunday, big show out there in Detroit. Yeah, I'm 478 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: hoping I can make it too. That'll be big. Yeah. 479 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was dope. They did that FX series 480 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: about Yeah, that was like fucking super dope. Yeah. Do 481 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: you think Eminem does enough for like the scene in Detroit, 482 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: like he never left, he still lives there, right, but 483 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: do you think like he's done enough like to kind 484 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: of help put on other Detroit artists. I feel like 485 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: he didn't put on some people. You know, he put 486 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: on Trick trick for real. Yeah, like you know, Proof, 487 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Like Proof was real like street crazy, you know what 488 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying. The Pa Boys and all that. Yeah, you know, 489 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: but you know, the street side they feel like, you know, 490 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: they don't know him and this and that. What's It's like, 491 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: I don't know many people probably on the street side 492 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: like that. I know personally that are like listening to Eminem, 493 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. A lot we grew up 494 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: listening to m though yours came like we was like 495 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: damn this hard. We was just happy it's from the 496 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: d and then him dudes new Proof and then they 497 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: did a fucking movie called A Mile, like based in 498 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: the city. You know what I'm saying that people were 499 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: just like Oh what is this? Like? It was it 500 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: accurate at all? It didn't really represent like the Detroit 501 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: I come from the trash Detroit repents, like the freestyle 502 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: battle culture. Like it's Detroited diversity, you know what I'm saying. 503 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: Like it's different, different sides of that ship. Who are 504 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: your like top two or three favorite new artists out 505 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: of Detroit that you're that you're just a fan of? 506 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: Uh new artists? Man, there's a lot of them, man, 507 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: so many of them fuck with tape. B let me 508 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: see baby money. Uh, I don't know a lot of them, man. 509 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: They like from my era. So like you mean like 510 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: new like younger, ye, just like you know, there's a 511 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: lot of new. Like we were talking about the Bay, 512 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: there's so much new ship going on. It's like it's 513 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: so many man. Yeah, I fuck with tape being your money. 514 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: I'd be you know, I'll be banging that ship all right. 515 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: My producer Cook is a diehard fan. Cook. You get 516 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: one question. Appreciate that too, man, one question from the 517 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: producer Cook. Many any coming out? Yeah? Yeah, Me and 518 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: Carlo are always working, man. We were actually working on 519 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: Big Boston three. Yeah, and then so like well Big 520 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: Boss of one. You guys had to put the one 521 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: in the half of because of samples for Yeah, that's 522 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 1: some weird record label ship. I never even listened to 523 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: it actually, right, yeah, yeah, It's like it was cringing 524 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: for me, like why did they do this ship? But 525 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I guess it was sample reasons. You 526 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: have some You got that real fan ship to ask 527 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: one of my first songs. I appreciate that you saw 528 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: the short movie. 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So you say, you know, we 547 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: just talked about three different new albums. Yeah, man, hopefully 548 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: uh g of Ane's way be out here by like August, 549 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: but don't hold me today, So that'll be the first 550 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: thing we're waiting for. Yeah, Okay, then then then Doe 551 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: Boys cash out and I got a project with Zaytoven 552 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm working on too. Oh shit, is a Tooven coming 553 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: with a whole other bag on this ship? Like this 554 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: ship sound different? So you got four projects on them? 555 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Like I probably got more than that for real? Any 556 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: other collab projects with any other artists, like full collab projects, 557 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: not with no artists. I got something with different producers though. Yeah, 558 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: me and Hellivan of course, me and Hellova and uh 559 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Okay, yeah, of course. Yeah, Man's Knoxville is there? Uh? 560 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: You know you and PZ linked up for a project. 561 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Is there another artist in Detroit that you would love 562 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: to do just just a full on collab album with 563 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: I'm out open to anything for real, but you me 564 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: and ps actually talking about doing another project too. You 565 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: know who's gonna I think think they're just killing shit 566 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: ever since they really went straight independent and they were 567 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: independent before. But I swear Vessel been on this ship, 568 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, l he stayed matching on the gap. 569 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: He's been killing it. Yeah. I know he was on 570 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: that Motown situation and you know they kind of started 571 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: him out a little, but like now it's my deal situation. 572 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: He broke free and off independent straight gas. That's how 573 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: Detroit artists worked though, Like we better independent with our 574 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: own freedom. There it is, man, Look, Pero Giovanni, appreciate 575 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: you for pulling up four or five or seven albums 576 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: coming soon? Yeah, about five six of them there, movies 577 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: all that. Hopefully we hear this, yg g Z. Yeah, 578 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna speaking into existence. Man. The next time I 579 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: eat a full album there it is perfect the show. 580 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate you man