WEBVTT - 052023 Racial Profiling Happens to Us Too! (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher as we broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramses John he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Ramses Joh, I am q Ward. That's important because

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<v Speaker 2>people be reading my Instagram like I'm awkward, I'm quirk,

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<v Speaker 2>I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Q or write it down, that's who I am. People

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<v Speaker 1>need to say, people need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're tuned in to Civic Cipher D.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a lot to stick around for today because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on in the world. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell a story about something that happened to me recently.

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<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of times folks think on this

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<v Speaker 1>show that we kind of ride above the the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of racism and the prejudice that we report on because

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<v Speaker 1>wait of our platform.

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<v Speaker 2>Why on earth?

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<v Speaker 1>Because w anyone assumed that part. We're going to let

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<v Speaker 1>them know that it happens to us. I had an

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<v Speaker 1>incident happened with me just the other day, so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you all about it. Also, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this strange thing that's happening in the country where

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<v Speaker 1>people are getting to decide who gets to live and

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<v Speaker 1>who gets to die based on what they're afraid of.

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<v Speaker 1>In that moment or what they hate in that moment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's fear as a y, that's as escape. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not wrong, you're not wrong. Cue. But of course people

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<v Speaker 1>often hide behind fear. So we're going to talk about, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>the many high profile incidents of people who have lost

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<v Speaker 1>their lives because somebody thought was their right to take

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<v Speaker 1>a life. Oftentimes the victims end up being black and

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<v Speaker 1>the perpetrators are not black. And then we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss the racist origins of the no trespassing sign, among others.

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<v Speaker 1>So first and foremost, like we always do at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna start with some Ebony excellence. You wanna take

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<v Speaker 1>this one? Cures? Nope, all right, then I'll take this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's Ebny Excellence is sponsored by Major Threads, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna shout out Seila avant Garde. She was born in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seventy and Harvey, Louisiana. By age thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>avant Garde got her first world record for the most

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<v Speaker 1>bounces in one minute with three basketballs. I've seen the video.

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<v Speaker 1>She's bouncing three basketballs and it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>juggling patterns. Really dope. So She's got the Guinness World

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<v Speaker 1>Record for that. Her second world record is for the

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<v Speaker 1>most bounced juggles in one minute with four basketballs. And

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<v Speaker 1>as if that weren't enough, her third world record was

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<v Speaker 1>for the most basketball dribbled by one person simultaneously. And

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<v Speaker 1>she also is a talented unicycle rider and in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>she was featured in an under Armor commercial way the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA star Steph Curry, and has performed with basketball legends

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<v Speaker 1>the Harlem Lobe Trotters. Now that would be enough for

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<v Speaker 1>any measure of Emny excellence, but we're gonna take it

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<v Speaker 1>a step further. This is somebody we didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about on the show, and so we're happy that

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<v Speaker 1>we get to do it today. I'll tell the story.

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<v Speaker 1>On July eighth, twenty twenty one, she became the first

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<v Speaker 1>African American to win the scripts National Spelling Bee in

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<v Speaker 1>the ninety six year history of the event. The win

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<v Speaker 1>came of the trophy and over fifty thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>cash and prizes. Avant Garde won the championship with the

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<v Speaker 1>word Maria. Mariah ever heard this word before, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was defined as a type of tropical plant and The

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<v Speaker 1>only previous black person to win the Spelling Bee was

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve year old Jodi and Maxwell of Jamaica in

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight. So she was a Jamaican, not an African American,

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<v Speaker 1>but back to a mont guard. When she grows up,

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<v Speaker 1>she won to be an archaeologist, a w NBA player,

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<v Speaker 1>and to work with NASA. So shout out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like she's on her way to doing all all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on, So, as I mentioned, I had a run

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<v Speaker 1>in with the fuzz the other day. And for folks

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<v Speaker 1>that don't have for folks that don't walk the path

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<v Speaker 1>of a of a black person or a brown person,

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<v Speaker 1>or a marginalized person, you might not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>really understand what discrimination looks like and how insulting and

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<v Speaker 1>out how dehumanizing it can be. You might not walk

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<v Speaker 1>around with a certain a fear. Fear might be too

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<v Speaker 1>strong a word what a constant companion will call concern

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<v Speaker 1>or yourself relative to your surroundings. You might not carry

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<v Speaker 1>that with you the way that someone like me, someone

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<v Speaker 1>like you would carry it with us. So I will

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<v Speaker 1>give you some insight and something that happened. This was

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<v Speaker 1>probably six days ago as of this episode. Now, let

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<v Speaker 1>me back up a bit. A few weeks ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>went and bought some little BMX bikes. Right, my little

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<v Speaker 1>boy is big enough to ride a bike now, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we've been enjoying our neighborhood riding bikes around. And

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<v Speaker 1>I bought two of them, so I have a BMX

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<v Speaker 1>bike too. Now I'm an adult man. My son is

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<v Speaker 1>eight years old, but I used to ride BMX bikes

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<v Speaker 1>when I was younger. That's the bike I'm comfortable riding,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the one I got. We got some gts

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you familiar with those old school bikes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got the good ones because we're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>little a little bit better these days than we were

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<v Speaker 1>back in the nineties when we had to ride them huffies.

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<v Speaker 1>So really exciting time riding around the neighborhood with my son.

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<v Speaker 1>Just kind of enjoying this time together. He asked us questions.

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<v Speaker 1>We ride around, listen to music and just enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>weather and enjoy each other's company, and we share. We

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<v Speaker 1>have more than just the two bikes, so we'll share.

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<v Speaker 1>We have other people come over and ride bikes with

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<v Speaker 1>us from time to time as well. Well. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a neighborhood near my house where I'm looking to make

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<v Speaker 1>a purchase. I've been on tours and a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the homes, and I have relationships with the people in

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<v Speaker 1>the community, of course, but also with the realtors, so

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<v Speaker 1>forth and so on, And this neighborhood is quite a

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<v Speaker 1>fluent It needs to be stated because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to misrepresent what happened here. So the night of this incident,

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<v Speaker 1>I was hanging out with a friend of mine, and

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<v Speaker 1>she and I decided that we would go for a

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<v Speaker 1>bike ride. This is my new thing. I invite everybody

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<v Speaker 1>to ride bikes. Q is probably the only person who

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't jumped on a bike with me, but everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>has got to get on these bikes and ride around

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<v Speaker 1>this neighborhood. Man. Now, I want to be clear. My

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood is different from this neighborhood. We rode the bikes too,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's close enough for a bike ride, so very

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<v Speaker 1>close neighborhoods. But I would say a definitive step step

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<v Speaker 1>up in terms of how affluent the neighborhood is. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't live in a bad neighborhood at all, but this

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood is just different. Okay, this neighborhood is called the

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<v Speaker 1>Builtmore those who are familiar with the lay of the

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<v Speaker 1>land here in Phoenix, But the Biltmore is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>this affluent neighborhood that I was talking about. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>live very far from there, just down the street. So

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<v Speaker 1>this night, my friend comes over and we're hanging out,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking, and we decided to go for a bike ride.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's night. You know, in arizona's very hot in

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<v Speaker 1>the daytime, so you want to wait until the sun

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<v Speaker 1>goes down just because it's cooler. I'm not getting dressed

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<v Speaker 1>up to ride this bike. No one would because we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to see anyone. We're not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>anything nothing like that. We're just going to get on

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable clothes and ride the bikes. And while riding, I

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<v Speaker 1>suggested to my friend, Hey, do you want to check

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<v Speaker 1>out this house that I'm thinking of purchasing. Just did

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<v Speaker 1>a tour there the other day, and I'm thinking that

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<v Speaker 1>this might come together. Just waiting on a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things to pan out and see what, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>sellers are trying to do. But you know, I'm absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>in talks for making this purchase. So she says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go check it out. So I want to paint

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<v Speaker 1>a picture for an outsider looking in. After I paint

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<v Speaker 1>this picture of me, me Ramses on a bike and

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<v Speaker 1>a T shirt and some shorts at night, a BMX bike,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you, riding around the neighborhood in Arizona. So harmless,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to see here, just a man enjoying a bike

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<v Speaker 1>with a friend or by myself. But this evening I

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<v Speaker 1>was with a friend. This friend was not black. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to an outsider looking in, I know this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that constant companion. I know that I

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<v Speaker 1>probably look like a drug person or I'm on drugs

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<v Speaker 1>or selling drugs or you know. I mean, it just

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look This isn't the sort of thing that people

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<v Speaker 1>see and are entirely comfortable with. Right, So I'm mindful

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<v Speaker 1>of this. It's that constant commanding. I'm aware of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it hasn't affected me, but I'm aware. It's impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to be black and not be extremely self aware. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is my estimation. Because I've lived this life for

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<v Speaker 1>forty years. I know what it means to be black

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<v Speaker 1>in this country. And something as simple as riding a bike,

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<v Speaker 1>something as simple as existing in the wrong place at

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong time, it would be a death sentence. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what we cover on the show quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I recognize that a bike looks youthful, and youth

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<v Speaker 1>and black and male often looks like trouble. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not dressed a certain way, I'm not wearing my Rolex,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not driving my Corvette or Mercedes or any of

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<v Speaker 1>this sort of stuff. I'm just riding a bike. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks very different to people who have been taught to

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<v Speaker 1>fear that combination of features manifest in one person. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have something else on my side, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is I know the people in the neighborhood. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of them own business partners with right, I'm in this

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood four or five times a week, have been for

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<v Speaker 1>some time, and feel very comfortable having established myself over

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<v Speaker 1>time in this neighborhood. People come up to me and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>nice car, I love your hair, you know whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for those who know me, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a bunch of tattoos and all this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So these people, I've managed to ingratiate myself, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>to these folks who live here, so I know who

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<v Speaker 1>I am. But I also know that these folks, if

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<v Speaker 1>they see me, there's nothing to fear, right, they know

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<v Speaker 1>who I am too. Oh, there's nothing wrong with riding

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<v Speaker 1>the bikes over there, checking out the house just as

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<v Speaker 1>a destination to enjoy the bike ride, and that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. The thing is turning into the Biltmore.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a police car there, and I clocked that

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<v Speaker 1>police car immediately, because that's what you do. But I also,

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<v Speaker 1>in the amount of time that I've ingratiated myself with

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<v Speaker 1>the folks that live there, I also know the police

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<v Speaker 1>officers that are there during the daytime. Funny, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is rams this was always very critical of

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<v Speaker 1>the police. But I've actually talked about both officers before,

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<v Speaker 1>Suzanne and Daniel kind people, and I use them in

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<v Speaker 1>another person. I don't want to say his name, but

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<v Speaker 1>his last name, but Kevin, who is a now a

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<v Speaker 1>Queen Greek police officer. I use them to ensure that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being fair when describing how policing should be done

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<v Speaker 1>and referencing the system of policing, not the individuals. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the two police that are there and during the daytime.

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<v Speaker 1>I know them very well. In addition to the mailman,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know the people that do the caddies since

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<v Speaker 1>the golf course as well, or our non black listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>That mental inventory that Ramses has giving you right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the names of the police officers, the mailman, the relationships

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<v Speaker 2>with the neighbors and the people that live in this

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood in this community.

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<v Speaker 1>That is normal for us.

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<v Speaker 2>The noticing of the police officer that's here that uh oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that one, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>That is normal for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Not just when you go to a neighborhood where you

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<v Speaker 2>might buy a house, but if you're going to the

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<v Speaker 2>gas station, or to your kids' school, or to the

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<v Speaker 2>store or anywhere that's not home. Every time you see

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<v Speaker 2>a police car, there is a mental inventory, a snapshot

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of a checklist in your head. Is my

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<v Speaker 2>seatbelt fast? Was I driving too fast? Did I signal

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<v Speaker 2>when I got over? Did I come to a complete

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<v Speaker 2>stop at that stop sign? Did I drive through that

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<v Speaker 2>intersection while getting over?

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<v Speaker 1>Like anything?

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<v Speaker 2>That Because there's all these stuff that you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that you can be sighted and pulled over for that

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<v Speaker 2>all of us do every day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll believe so it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to the discretion of said officer if they feel

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<v Speaker 2>like making your day hard that thank you every day,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, and for us as normal, it's more times

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<v Speaker 2>than not they got time today.

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<v Speaker 1>So watch this. I'm glad you said that. So we

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<v Speaker 1>ride into the neighborhood on these BMX bikes. It's nighttime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not super late, but it's nighttime. Let's call it

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<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock, nine o'clock at night on the way in.

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<v Speaker 1>What this. So a friend of mine that lives in

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<v Speaker 1>the boil her name is Cheryl. Her husband's name is Ira. Ira.

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<v Speaker 1>They're very wealthy people. They both have rolls races, and

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<v Speaker 1>IRA's rolls races very interesting color combination. It's a metallic

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<v Speaker 1>blue and gold. So I saw IRA's car as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>riding bikes into the to the Billbore, and I waved

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<v Speaker 1>to him and just kept riding. Got inside and police

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<v Speaker 1>officers sitting there. Just rode right past them because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming I'm not doing anything wrong, not harming anybody. And

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't stop. We just rode. It's like a circle,

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<v Speaker 1>so you just ride around, rode around about a two

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<v Speaker 1>mile lap. Pointed out the house that I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>at and we're just talking and riding. Rode back out.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're about three quarters of the way through, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I see that same police officer ride. Now he's driving.

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<v Speaker 1>He drives the opposite direction of where I'm coming. So

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<v Speaker 1>I came in an entrance and it takes you into

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<v Speaker 1>a circle and then let you back out at the

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<v Speaker 1>same entrance. Right, So I'm about three quarters away through

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<v Speaker 1>the circle going around, and he's driving the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 1>So he kind of prisscrossed right and he said, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys need to make your way to the front. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, hmm, that's not right. And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, who would I be if I did

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<v Speaker 1>not step up in this moment? Expound? Would I be

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<v Speaker 1>a coward? Would I be a person who has allowed

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<v Speaker 1>my fear of this officer to cause me to tuck

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<v Speaker 1>my tail and run? Or can I stand on the

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<v Speaker 1>accomplishments of my life. Can I stand and say to

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<v Speaker 1>this man, I belong here, I'm actively working with business

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<v Speaker 1>partners in this neighborhood. I'm welcome at any number of

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<v Speaker 1>these homes after so long, and in fact, I'm engaged

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<v Speaker 1>in the process of purchasing one of these homes myself.

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<v Speaker 2>The sad truth is if your name was Grayson and

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<v Speaker 2>not Ramses, no, you probably don't need to stand up

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<v Speaker 2>in this moment for what. Just ride the back the bike,

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<v Speaker 2>back out and come home. And what are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>This is not to take a stance moment, so to

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<v Speaker 2>ride the bike night. Yeah, you're no.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is this is absolutely is what my friend

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<v Speaker 1>who was riding with me was trying to say. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. It's incredibly embarrassing and incredibly dehumanizing when

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<v Speaker 1>you've talked and you've painted this picture and you have

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<v Speaker 1>this exciting thing on the frontier of your life and

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to share it with somebody show you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and then someone who doesn't know anything about you other

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<v Speaker 1>than you're riding a bike at night and you have

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<v Speaker 1>an afro. I have an afro for the folks that

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<v Speaker 1>can't see me is using their modicum of authority in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment to expel you from this neighborhood. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>fluent neighborhood. So I took it upon myself to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>myself to this officer. So I went back to the

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<v Speaker 1>front where I saw the officer initially, and I sat

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<v Speaker 1>there and I waited, and eventually the officer rode back around,

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<v Speaker 1>and I waved to the officer, this is my way

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<v Speaker 1>of saying, hey, come talk to me. It's we should

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<v Speaker 1>probably know each other. I know, and I said this

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<v Speaker 1>when officer pulled back around, because I know the other

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<v Speaker 1>officers here. I'm bringing my children here, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want any sort of prejudices to work their way into

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<v Speaker 1>your decisions as you patrol this neighborhood. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking in that moment. I know this is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not recommend to anyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen to me. Pointing out you don't want these

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<v Speaker 2>prejudices to make their way into the decision making processes

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<v Speaker 2>of said officers not only increases the chances that they will,

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<v Speaker 2>but even causes some of them, in order to prove

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<v Speaker 2>to you that they don't have such prejudices, to become

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<v Speaker 2>more confrontational with you. So, so if his name was

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<v Speaker 2>Grayson and not ramses that you can go see their

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<v Speaker 2>house tomorrow in the daytime, when the cops that you

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<v Speaker 2>know will be patrolling the neighbors those that don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be a way safer time for you.

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<v Speaker 1>For those that don't know, Grayson is the name of

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<v Speaker 1>Q's Sun. So we raise our we tell our children,

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<v Speaker 1>do as I say, not as I do. To your

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<v Speaker 1>dad's well to continue. I stayed still waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>officer to loop back around because I knew he wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my friend, she was on her bike, and

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<v Speaker 1>she just kind of parked off to the side, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little rubber band thing around my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It was playing music, so I tried to turn the

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<v Speaker 1>music off as the officer was pulling up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that probably looks suspicious. These are things that

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<v Speaker 1>may not go through other people's head. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that probably looks suspicious. Let me just turn the volume

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<v Speaker 1>down and keep both hands on the handlebars so he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't think i'm you know, even though he got all

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<v Speaker 1>them bright lights on me. Okay, So he hops out

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<v Speaker 1>of his car and the first thing he.

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<v Speaker 3>Says is, hey, this is a private property, so you

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<v Speaker 3>guys can't be here, And so I said, well, sir,

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<v Speaker 3>I want you to know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a couple of your colleagues that work at

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<v Speaker 1>your same precinct. I mentioned Susanna, I mentioned David, I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned my business partners. I mentioned that I'm here all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and in fact, I'm putting an offer on

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<v Speaker 1>one of the houses here, and he says, well, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. This is private property. So they tried to

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<v Speaker 1>double down on that. So I says, well, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is private property and you're a public servant, and are

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<v Speaker 1>you being paid to be here and indeed off duty

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<v Speaker 1>or is this indeed public property? And he says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the reason that I pulled you over. I

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<v Speaker 1>waited for you. But he says this, He says, the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I pulled you over is because your bike doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a headlight.

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<v Speaker 2>So if his name was Grayson and not Rams, he's

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<v Speaker 2>not sitting there being told why he was pulled over,

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<v Speaker 2>when indeed he wasn't because he just went home and

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<v Speaker 2>came back tomorrow in the daytime when the officers that

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<v Speaker 2>he know would be present and it would be way

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<v Speaker 2>less dangerous and way less likely that something stupid would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But his name is not Grace and his name is Ramses.

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<v Speaker 2>And the story continues.

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<v Speaker 1>So the officer I took the same rubber band that

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<v Speaker 1>was holding my phone listening to music, and I turned

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<v Speaker 1>the light on my phone. I was like, okay, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go, and he's like, huh, give me your ID.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, took my ID out. I gave

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<v Speaker 1>it to him. And while he's looking at ID, my

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<v Speaker 1>id's a little beat up. So he had to desern,

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<v Speaker 1>like figure out what it said if his name was

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<v Speaker 1>Grayson and not ramses this thing that he calls an ID,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not that anymore. It's just whatever material that

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<v Speaker 1>it's made out of. It's just that last in paper

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that it is no longer a suitable form

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<v Speaker 2>of identification.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's terrible. So watch this. So my question is, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so if this is indeed private property, do you need

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<v Speaker 1>a light to write on private property? Or do you

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<v Speaker 1>need a light to write on public property? And he

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<v Speaker 1>started to get frustrated because I'm catching him up in

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<v Speaker 1>these stories and he kept trying to pivot and switch

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<v Speaker 1>this is private property, Oh it's your light. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's private property, you don't need a light. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sorts of thing. And the fact is that I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to introduce myself and I did, said I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know who I am because there's a very

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<v Speaker 1>good chance, I'm gonna end up living in this house

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<v Speaker 1>right here, next to the person who's just running for

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General. Rodney Glassman was also a friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's a publican. He's always been kind

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and it's important that you know who I

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<v Speaker 1>am and who my children are because we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be living here soon. And then he took my license

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<v Speaker 1>and he came back and he said, all right, well

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<v Speaker 1>you're good. I said, oh, I know. And then he

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<v Speaker 1>asked me what I was doing for work, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I do what I want and then answer, you can

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<v Speaker 1>google me, dude. And then as I was riding away,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized he never carded the lady that I was

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<v Speaker 1>with at all. And that's what it's like to be black.

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<v Speaker 1>So shout out to officer Am your name, and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you know who else he did in cart Grayson

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<v Speaker 1>because Grayson was at home with his dad, not looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a police officer to have a confrontation with.