1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullivan Sull with 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: John o'shan and Brian Sexton. Jacks Drive Time and starts 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: right now are big, big, No they timed at all? Hello, 4 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: I had a whole world l L. Why receiver la 5 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: Kwan tru Will miked up last week, A big week 6 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: coming up for him as we get ready for the 7 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: third Tree Sason game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Welcome to 8 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. On a Thursday, coming off the practice field, 9 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: the last day of training camp here in Jacksonville, Ashland 10 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Sullivan and Brian Sexton here with you. It has been 11 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: a time at the School School of Jacksonville. We are 12 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: ready to move on. I think, yes, yes, they were lovely. Yes, 13 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: but we were out there three weeks. Yes, and I 14 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: said goodbye. You know, it never fails. This was my 15 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: twenty ninth training camp and I always I'm excited for 16 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: it to start and excited for Dan. Yeah. I mean 17 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: all those days out there, you're you're looking at the 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: same guys doing the same drills over and over and 19 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: over and trying to interpret so we can share. Well, 20 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: I think this guy is really playing well. And then 21 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: you talk to a coach like, yeah, that's not so 22 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: well looking who we hadn't matched up with looking we 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: had him next to what we're really looking is this 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: and this. You're like, well, okay, um, so you want 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: to get into game situations because when you have the 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: game tape, it doesn't lie. It doesn't lie. Especially with 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: joint practice as well. Coming up next week with the 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, that's definitely going to change things up and 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: help us get some observations of you're not going to 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: gainst your same guy every single absolutely, and to start 31 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: to see some of their you know, they've got some 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: talented guys on the offensive side of the ball, so 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: be able to see how this defense matches up. That'll 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: be fun. Absolutely, all right, let's get into big things. 35 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Big thing one is a furnace. It has been incredibly 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: hot in Jacksonville and is only going to get hotter 37 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: in Atlanta next week as the Jaguars will practice the 38 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Falcons at one o'clock in the afternoon for joint practice. 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: This when we see battles one and guys separate themselves 40 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: of the dog days of training camp. Offensive coining your 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: pres Taylor has a lot of thoughts on that right 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: tackle battle. Great position to be in because both those 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: guys have played so well, they continue to push each other. 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: So I mean, for the for the foreseeable future, we'll 45 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: just continue to rotate those guys and and see, uh, 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: right now, they're pushing each other and making each other better. 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: So it's a good problem to have, um, And we'll 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: just continue that process until we need to make a 49 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: decision on that big thing. To Trevor talks. Trevor spoke 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: to the media yesterday and often struggling greatly yesterday, probably 51 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: the worst day that we've seen from this offense yesterday, 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: but they bounced back today. A lot of completions to 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: is A Jones especially, and Trevor Lawrence knows those slow 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: days are bound to happen. Have to go again, another 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: long practice, a lot of competing. Um. I thought offensively, 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: we came out a little slow, found our spots here 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: and there, but it's got to be a little bit 58 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: more consistent. Of the defense really is good. After today, 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: they're flying around. They did a good job, so overall, 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's a good day of competing. I think 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: we've gotta be a little sharp run offense. But um, yeah, 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I was good to see the guys finished, because was 63 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: a long one to day and big thing three is 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: the last day, like we said, the last day of 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: training camp at this Episcopal School of Jackson as we 66 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: get ready to go to Atlanta next week. And it's 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: very obvious the atmosphere in this building during this training 68 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: camp has been very different. Assistant general manager Ethan Wall 69 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: agreece it's a very similar feeling. So when I when 70 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: I got here in May and just kind of walking around, 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: didn't even know, you know, where the office was, where 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: the draft room was, any of those things. But you 73 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: kind of bump into players in the hallway, you bump 74 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: into coaches. You have that feeling um and so that's 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't happen very often in football. I think you 76 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of you when you feel it, you know it, 77 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: and that's that's what I felt, and you think there's 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: a really good atmosphere in the building. Ethan while talking 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: about very similar to his time in San Francisco, and 80 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: you fee feel a rebuild coming on and moving in 81 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: the right direction, he said, it's pretty rare for you 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: to be able to feel that. Obviously, he said he 83 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: kind of noticed that as soon as he stepped in 84 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: this building. The word is professional, right and and and 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: that's not a slide at the former coach though I think, 86 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, I take as many shots as I could. Um. 87 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: When I say professional, what I'm talking about is guys 88 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: come to work and they handle their own business right 89 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: there on time. They take good notes there on the 90 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: practice field early and staying late. They're asking good questions. 91 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: You know, they're taking care of their bodies with the trainer. 92 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: As a coach or a general manager scouting tap, you 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Guys are coming and getting work done. 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: And that's that's how I would describe this whole camp. 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: It was very workmanlike. Uh, they were professional. They came 96 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: in with that approach. There wasn't anything that made you think, yeah, 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: this is not a this is an immature team. It's not. 98 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: It's young. It's youthful. And Doug has said that over 99 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: and over how young this team is. But they're young professionals. 100 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: And I thought the way that Doug and Trent and 101 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: their staffs worked with the players this year, UM that 102 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: this training camp got a lot done. Absolutely, And even 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: when you see across Twitter, especially see at this point 104 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: in camp, when we see it everywhere, the chippiness, the fighting, 105 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: It just happens when you spend this much time together. 106 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: And I will see. While there were some little scuffles 107 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: here and there, it was Cook Peterson saying like, all right, 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: let's get that out of the way and let's go back. 109 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: It's not a nice game. And I mean, I mean 110 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: in the heat and you're competing for a job and 111 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: you're competing against somebody. Yeah, I mean, it's gonna get 112 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: the best of you from time to time. Um, But 113 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: I always go back to the big fight we had 114 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: here between Mill Williams and John Henderson in the summer 115 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: of two thousand and nine. It was nothing like that, right, 116 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: that never got out of control, right, and you know 117 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: they're going to happen. But I love how coach Peterson understood, Okay, 118 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: this is gonna happen, and all right, let's move on there. There. 119 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: You could see in Trevor Um as he walked over 120 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: after practice yesterday. Then yesterday was was the dog felt yesterday? Yeah? 121 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: You could see his body language was different than it 122 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: normally is. Uh. You could sense frustration, you could sense 123 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: some exhaustion because he was brutally hot. Um, And I 124 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: thought he was very candid with what he wants this 125 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: offense to be. Um, and he needed to be able 126 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: to step up and to say that and set the tone. Now, 127 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, can they pull their way through it in 128 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: a day? Um? You know they weren't full pads today. 129 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: It wasn't the same kind of practice. It didn't go 130 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: as long. Very different. So yeah, they looked a little 131 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: bit better. Um, but it's Saturday night that matters. Right. 132 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: You hope to see a little bit more energy, and 133 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: you should Pittsburgh Steelers coming in. Whenever the Steelers come, 134 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, you better bring your a physical game because 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: that's what they pride themselves on. He's being the more 136 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: physical team every down, right, And Coach Peterson gave us 137 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: some insight today in his press conference that the starters 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: will most likely go into the second quarter a couple series. 139 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: It's the second quarters are going to play a good amount. 140 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 1: And he especially said that offense, he wants to see 141 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: them score early and all the mistakes we saw last 142 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: week fix them and then you can get on the bench. Well, 143 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: what you hope is that the Steelers play most of 144 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: their starters. But it's only their second preseason games, so 145 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: they may be a little, you know, more hesitant. They 146 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: may want to play guys in all three games to 147 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: get the maximum time on the field. You don't know 148 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: what Mike Tomlin's gonna do. I do want to go 149 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: back up at the top. And you talked about the 150 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: furnace right, um, and that battle at right tackle has 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: been the battle. And the word on the field at 152 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: camp is that Juwan Taylor played much better then they 153 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: may have. They even expected him to play, getting his 154 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: first real action last week, and that that battle is 155 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: neck and neck. Not to me. I have seen Walker 156 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: Little play really well, although not so much the last 157 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: day or two. Um, Joann Taylor is really coming on 158 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: to hell of a battle going on it. So what 159 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: you've got is depth, because one of those guys is 160 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: gonna be your starter and the other is gonna be 161 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the swing tackle. A great problem to have. So when 162 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: people worry about death, and there are some places on 163 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: this roster where it's thin, it's not gonna be on 164 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Now you're gonna have guys that can 165 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: play multiple positions and slide around, and you're going to 166 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: have death. And even with that guard spot as well. 167 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: If Ben Barts wins it, and Tyler Shatley's your backup 168 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: that's a great place well, and he's also your backup center, right, 169 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: so you've got you've got options. You'd like to find 170 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: another guard, you know, have another guy you can count 171 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: on um And there are a couple of young prospects 172 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: that they like, developmental guys that you can bring along. 173 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: I think Nick Ford right there, you see him on 174 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: the screen. He's one of those guys that that they 175 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: have high hopes will play at utak Um. So yeah, 176 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: what you think you know when you're watching preseason practice 177 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: and preseason games isn't always what you know because when 178 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: the coaches then explain what they were doing and how 179 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: they were pairing guys and what sort of scenarios in 180 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: the second quarter against the second team, you know, I 181 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: mean they look at all of those they're looking at 182 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: very specific guys in very specific situations as opposed to 183 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: a full game plan in a regular season game. It's 184 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: it's different than that, right, And I thought with this 185 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: battle especially, I thought, by the third preseason game, come 186 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: this Saturday, okay, you know your guy, you'd have a feeling. 187 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: But I love when offensive cordnear press Taylor. You heard 188 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: from in the beginning of the show said, we're not 189 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: any rush because they don't have to be. Either guy 190 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: is the right option. It's just who can pull away 191 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: and they don't have to be in a rush. Well 192 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: and for what for what we do to have a 193 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: strong opinion, and right, I think Walker Little is the guy, 194 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: or I think that you want Taylor's the guy. I mean, 195 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: that's that's what people who watch this want to know. 196 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: But the coaches think completely different than that, because they 197 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: just want to see who rises to the occasion. And 198 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: with two guys like that, what's the old adage iron 199 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: sharp AND's iron uh, it gives them a chance to 200 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: have a better football player as the number two. It 201 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: is going to be interesting and we'll find out more 202 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: of the Saturday about who's running out with first team. 203 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: But even then I wouldn't let it go too far 204 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: in your evaluation because tricking me well, I mean, you 205 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: may think John Taylor plays outstanding there Walker a Little. 206 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: They go out and and play the game of his 207 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: life in his reps against UM against the Steelers, and 208 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: then you just don't know. They got time tuning. That's 209 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: to say the least. Sorry, that is big things when 210 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: we come back on Jaguar's Drive Time some he will, 211 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: he won't, he might go into this third preseason game. 212 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Soneth is Jackson Mills Trust and Reliable Moving Companies. Sodeth 213 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: is proud to be the official moving company of the 214 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Get a stress free quote call nine oh 215 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: four six three eight seven five three six or visit 216 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: subteth dot com. We're back Jaguars Drive Time on a Thursday, 217 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: coming off the training camp field and getting ready for 218 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: a preseason game in Jacksonville on Saturday. We're going to 219 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: see a lot of the starters play. We're gonna see 220 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: these two guys play. He will, he won't, he might. 221 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: Bryan pret got go with quarterback Tyson Campbell, who has 222 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: had a terrific camp. So I'm gonna say he's going 223 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: to be a top performer in training camp, top performer 224 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: in two. I want to say he's going to be 225 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: a star because he's he's flashing star potential right. He's explosive, Uh, 226 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: he is highly competitive, highly competitive. He's got all the 227 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: physical measurables you could possibly want. He's not as big 228 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: as Jalen Ramsey or as long as Jalen Ramsey's pretty close, right, 229 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: and he's a guy that he's so quiet, you wonder 230 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: if he's got that particular level in him. Yeah, he does, 231 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: and we've seen him. So I'll go with top performer 232 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: and a guy who makes plays all over the field 233 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: and people talk about, and then we'll see if he 234 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: evolves to that that elite echelon uh in his third 235 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: or fourth season. Top performer this year, he won't look 236 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: lost with the ball in the air. You remember last 237 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: year early on he just seemed like he was getting 238 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,479 Speaker 1: by on his his athleticism and didn't have the instincts. 239 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Now you can see the work in the weight room, 240 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: on the field, in the classroom with the coaches is 241 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: paid off. He is as comfortable in his position as 242 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: I think the quarterback is in his right so he 243 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: will not look lost with the ball in the air. 244 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: And finally, he might be a guy whose name is 245 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: mentioned with Jalen Ramsey, A J. Boyer and Rasheine mathis 246 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: as the best three corners to ever play here in Jacksonville. 247 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: I get it right, and he's only played one season, 248 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: but you can see the physical attributes, you can see 249 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: the mental focus on the game and you can see 250 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: where he's a guy who's got everything it takes and 251 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: the desire. That's what's so important. He's got the desire 252 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: to be great, and so I think, I think when 253 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: you look at the best corners by the end of 254 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: the season, he might have his name right there with 255 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: the best, maybe not past him, right maybe on their level. 256 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: Because Jalen Ramsey's the best corner in the game today. 257 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: That's a lot to ask. People forget how good Rashie 258 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: Mathis was, and I look at this kid and I think, Okay, 259 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: maybe you can be that good too. I know, I 260 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: don't even think it's that far from a maybe. Our 261 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: coworkers make fun of me because I do a training 262 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: camp report every single day as we come off the 263 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: field and we have a play of the day, and 264 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: I swear I think Tyson Campbell has been of my 265 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: plays of the day. But I can't help it because 266 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: that's how good he looks on the field. I gotta 267 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: give it to him. It's incredible when you hear defensive 268 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: courter might call, well say, he has the potential to 269 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: float the number one receiver of every team, right. Could 270 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: you imagine have said that last October. You know you 271 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't because even when Jalen Ramsey was here, they didn't 272 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: do that with Jalen in the early days, right because 273 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: they had boy a right Um. Jalen wanted to do that, 274 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: He wanted desperately to do that, and they did always 275 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: do it. And this is a guy who I don't 276 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: know that he cares whether he does that or not. 277 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: He just wants to go out and play. Machine holds 278 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: the team record for takeaways, right interceptions, and he did 279 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: it in big moments, mostly against the Steelers. Bed Roethlisberger 280 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: hated Rashi Um. That's what I want to see from 281 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: this kid this year. When there's an opportunity for you 282 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: to either blow the game open or get back into 283 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: the game, Rahin always made a play. That's what we 284 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: want to see from Tyson. Can he be that guy 285 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: when the heat is on? He is so easy the 286 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: root for when you see him working, and he's so 287 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: easily could have put his head in the sand and 288 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: given up when everyone was against him last year and 289 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: he did the complete opposite. Nice guys win, and he's 290 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: a nice He's a great example of all. Right. I 291 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: have Laviskasenalt Jr. As mydeo, hearance he might. For Saturday's game, 292 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: he will play a good bit, especially in the second half, 293 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: and we know the first team receivers will go out 294 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: into the second quarter. When they go off, that's Laviskas 295 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: time to shine. It is a battle right now with 296 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: the krawnch webbell for that this spot. If they keep 297 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: six receivers, I think, look, Lavis Kashnal is safe, but 298 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: this is a battle that is worth paying attention to him. 299 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: We will see a good bit of him on Saturday. 300 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: He won't have that big explosive play and I think 301 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times last season we asked of him 302 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: to be that big explosive play guy. Truthfully, I don't 303 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: think that's what they want from him anymore. We haven't 304 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: really seen that in training camp, that explosion down the sidelines. 305 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: He's more of the guy that after the catch, guy 306 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: with blockers up the field. He's making an impact that way, 307 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: and I think maybe it was the role he wasn't 308 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: supposed to be in last year. I don't really know 309 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: what happened there last year, but I think now he's 310 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: in the right spot to make an impact and he 311 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: might be the prominent kickoff returner under Jamal Agnew. Of course, 312 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: when Jamal Agnew was the guy, he's the guy. But 313 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: Lavis Kashnal went to coach Peterson a couple of months 314 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: ago and said, I want to try kickoff return and 315 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: I give it to him. They're using him a ton 316 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: and training camp in that role. In credit to him 317 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: for saying I want to do more. It looks like 318 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: that's going to pay off. You know, we um we 319 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: knock his lack of speed. He does not have top 320 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: end speed is as most people. Yeah, but he's terrific athlete. Now, 321 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean he's six ft one, he's two and twenty pounds, 322 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: and he's light on his feet, very athletic, you know, 323 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: runs jumps, does all that stuff. So I think that 324 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: the coaching staff has an idea, even though they're not 325 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: sharing it. And why would they. Why would you tell 326 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: anybody before the Washington game how you're going to use 327 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: this guy. But we've seen some things on the practice field, 328 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: just little glimpses of how they want to use him. 329 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: Now he's got to buy into it, right, He's got 330 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: to accept the fact that he's not that down the 331 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: field guy that he was at the university of Colorado, 332 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: Colorado right in the in the Pact twelve. If he 333 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: buys in it takes the role. Uh, those guys can 334 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: become stars in their own right, and the guys that 335 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: are featured on all the network highlight shows, because hey, 336 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: look at what they did with him out of the 337 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: backfield throwing a touchdown pass. Oh, he's got that ability 338 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: to do that. Um, he's got to take that next 339 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: step and own the role. Right talking with someone today 340 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: about him. When he decides to own the role, he 341 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: could be really, really good at it. That makes so 342 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: much sense because if you look at someone like Marvin Jones, 343 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you see how different they are. You see how they 344 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: could never be the same type of receiver. In a 345 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: lot of times last year, that's what Levisco has asked 346 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: to do, is go opposite Marvin and go downfield, and 347 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: we didn't see success. So now, if he's in the 348 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: right position, if you're the defensive coordinator, where are you 349 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: shading the safety to Marvin Jones whose speed was not 350 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: threatening to a defense? I mean, you didn't have to 351 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: worry about Levis go on the other side. But if 352 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: you have to worry about him lining up in the 353 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: slot in the backfield coming. You know, God knows where 354 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: he's not Deebo Samuel, but the way the Niners use 355 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel in a number of different ways, and out 356 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: of the backfield in particular, all of a sudden, you 357 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: canna start game planning. Where's tent? What might he be? 358 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: What does he do from the backfield? What does he 359 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: do from this lot? Right? You gotta start thinking about 360 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: it right where the line up now not a burner, 361 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: but a good, good column. But in this case, yeah, 362 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: because imagine that in Travis E. Ten and Jamal Agnew 363 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: and Christian Kirk and where all these things can be 364 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: one of those chess pieces that creates confusion absolutely, and 365 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: that is he will he won't see mind when we 366 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: come back some cover from today's training can't practice at 367 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: Episcopal School of Jacksonvilleville. Last one here in Jacksonville. We'll 368 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: be back for Jaguars Drive king Field's Auto Group of Jacksonville. 369 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: Step up to Luxury Fields Auto dot Com. We're back 370 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: to jar Wards Drive time on a Thursday, coming off 371 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: the training camp field and allow to discuss with this practice. 372 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: The last one in Jacksonville. We heard from head coach 373 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, as well as number one overall draft pick 374 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: Trey Von Walker. And something we haven't gotten to yet 375 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: in this show is the release of Malcolm Brown yesterday afternoon. 376 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: That says a lot about j to Faile and head 377 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: coach Doug Peterson explains the release. You know, we've got 378 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: some young sending players quite honestly that that that have 379 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: really kind of caught our attention, cut our eye. There's 380 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: there's some nice competition there with you know, with Izzy 381 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: and j and some of the other you know, moves 382 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: we can do, and so it's just a it's a 383 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: tough decision. Obviously we've done this before, but um, you know, 384 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: Malcolm was was great for this team, great for the room, 385 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: great leadership here for the for the time he was here, 386 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: and wish him well and obviously now it's an opportunity 387 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: that he can, you know, uh, potentially get picked up 388 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: by another team. Now you have at the release of 389 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown yesterday. But of a surprise when it came through, 390 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: just because we've seen Malcolm Brown's be so successful here 391 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: in Jackson will be such a big piece on this 392 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: defensive line. But I totally hear what coach Peterson is saying, 393 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: look at j to Fley, look at these young guys 394 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: coming up, and look at Malcolm Brown's cap hit as well. Right, well, 395 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: when they were trading for for Malcolm Brown last year, 396 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: they knew it would be short term and and of 397 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: course they follow that up drafting j to Fele on Saturday, 398 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: the fourth round pick. So he's a guy that started 399 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: slow though. I mean, Ja did not have a great 400 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: game in Canton against the Raiders, and so they needed 401 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: to see more from him. But there's also the young 402 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: man from Oklahoma State. He's really entwined that they that 403 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: they like a lot, and and Doug Mention knew it's 404 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: becoming a young man's game. It's always been a young 405 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 1: man's game, right, It's always been younger and and and 406 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: since the salary cap era. If you're younger and cheaper now, 407 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: you don't pass up a guy, um if he's a 408 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: much better player. But what they're saying is to Fele 409 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: showing them what they need. They like the kid from 410 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Here he comes. Um. I'll always remember Malcolm 411 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: Brown for the block that he laid to free Jamal 412 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: Agnew on that that that I've never seen him big 413 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: man moves. No. I mean, in my mind his block 414 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: was the one that sealed it because he got the angle. 415 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you see him just all out pursuit. He's 416 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: three pounds in his thirty yards up the field and 417 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: he lays a block on a linebacker who might have 418 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: been able to dive right, and he and Brown dope 419 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: at the same time and cut him off. It was beautiful, 420 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: the best big man block that I can recall. Uh 421 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: In watching the Jaguars for twenty years, complete we forgot 422 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: about that, but I remember watching that highlight and going, 423 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I've never seen it someone moved so 424 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: quick in my life. Meanwhile, it's Malcolm Brown right right, 425 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: And you know it's it's a bit of a surprise, 426 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: right because I asked Josh Allen, hey, tell me somebody 427 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be forgetting about on the defensive line. There's 428 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: all this talk about Trayvon and Josh right and and 429 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: for good reason, we've talked about fully fought kasi Um 430 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: and he immediately went. He goes Malcolm. He said, this 431 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: was early in camp. He said, you know, Malcolm has 432 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: had a good offseason. These big, strong guys, a guy 433 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: we need, well, it tells you how far to fele 434 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: and and the rookie of Maklahoma State have come. If 435 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: they're they're comfortable letting Malcolm walk but especially in Doug 436 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: Peterson's first year, right, this is a long term perspective 437 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: from them. Do they want to win this year? Absolutely 438 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: want to win this year, but are they making moves 439 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: for next year in the year after for sure? Right, 440 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: and wondering is it worth keeping this guy who's very 441 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: expensive on our salary cap when there isn't that huge 442 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: difference between the next two guys? That makes sense, all right? 443 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: That prominent right tackle position that we have talked all 444 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: about between Walker Little and Jawan Taylor. The head coach 445 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: gave his comments on that today. It's an interesting battle. Um, 446 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think this game will be 447 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: important for both both players, um, you know. And and 448 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: I like how Jawn's responded coming off the injury and 449 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: how he's how he played last week and how he's practiced. 450 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Walkers done done an outstanding job as well. So it's 451 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: very interesting, you know for us, Um, we're kind of 452 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: in a good spot with it because you can kind 453 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: of go either way and and and the other guy 454 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: can be the swing tackle or or whatever. So UM, 455 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: I think this week will be important, and then even 456 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: when we go to Atlanta and practice against Atlanta will 457 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: be another another good opportunity for both of them. I 458 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: thought that spoke volume was the very last part of 459 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: that UM what coach Peterson was saying that it's not 460 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: just Saturday, it's Atlanta as well, and we're still going 461 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: to be evaluating this next week in a joint practice. Well, Atlanta, 462 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: probably you're not going to see a whole lot of 463 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: of T J. Watt, you know. I mean, there's I 464 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: would play at all if I would Tomlin right, and 465 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about maybe the best pass rusher outside pass 466 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: rusher in the game. But when you get into practice 467 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: situations with these joint practices, now now you're you're maximizing. 468 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: You're going to make sure that your number one pass 469 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: rusher gets so many reps against the Jaguars. If you're 470 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: the Falconst, okay, and if you know that's coming then 471 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: you're the Jaguars, You're going, okay, I'm I've got four 472 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: reps with this guy. I want two and two right, 473 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: or I want to see more from June. So I've 474 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: got three and one Um, these joint practices are in 475 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: many respects, and I think Bill Belichick actually said that 476 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: this week. I think in many respects they are more 477 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: important than the preseason games because it's controlled. So from 478 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: a safety perspective, it helps you get your guys healthy. 479 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: But like this kid here Ford, right, you want to 480 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: see him line up against the best defensive tackle that 481 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: he can possibly line up, and if he screws up, 482 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: let's do it again, love the whistle, do it again. 483 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: You want to be able to put guys in specific 484 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: situations for your evaluation and for their growth, and you 485 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: just can't do that in the preseason game because you 486 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: have no control over the right. Oh he's out, Okay, Well, 487 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: well I get two reps, you know, evation right exactly, 488 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: So they got to make the most of this time. 489 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: Next week, someone who will be evaluated as well, but 490 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: for much different reasons is Trayvon Walker, who's going to 491 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: play a good bit on Saturday, and it is also 492 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: going to go back to his hometown of Atlanta next week. 493 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: He said, a lot of families coming to the game. 494 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: I don't know how much, if any, we're going to 495 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: see him against the Falcons, but in joint practice, we'll 496 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: see him and we're gonna see him get all those 497 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: reps at outside linebacker. Definitely, that was my main goal 498 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: coming in at All they wanted me to do is 499 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: just focus on this one position. Once I get everything 500 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: down like the game, like the game of football already 501 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: have that, so everything just comes along with knowing my 502 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: one position. I love that the game of football I got. Now, 503 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: I just have to be good at one thing. Um. 504 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, in the in the era of four preseason 505 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: games Saturday night, the starters would go into the third quarter, right, 506 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: they would go to have time and then come out 507 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: of the halftime locker room. And that's a practice, right 508 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: to be able to transition and the momentum and then 509 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: pull him out. And Doug said today that he wanted 510 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: to see his guys go into the second quarter. So 511 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: he's telling you he wants to see just enough from them, 512 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: just a little bit more, and he wants to see 513 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: some more from the defense. He said that today as well. Uh, 514 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: more time on the field with those guys together. And 515 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: then if you see anybody in Atlanta, I would be stunned. 516 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine why you have a chance 517 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: to have them have a really good hard practice, so 518 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: guys are going to be tired, to be sore, and 519 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: then you have two full weeks to get ready for 520 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: the trip to Washington and opening day. So I guess 521 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: it's a roundabout way of saying Saturday night and next 522 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday in Atlanta, that's it for the starters. 523 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: So the furnace, the heat is on for those two 524 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: jobs at left guard and right tackle. It's now. The 525 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: time is now, let's see who wins it. So true, 526 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: and you think about James Robinson or Devin Lloyd to 527 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: now they're saying, Okay, they're ruled out for Saturday won't 528 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: makes total sense because now they have three weeks to 529 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: get ready for week one. Why would you ever risk that. No, 530 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: and Lloyd's a guy. I think they expect to get 531 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: onto the practice field in an enlarged role next week 532 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: and they want to see him. Um, I still don't 533 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see James Robinson for the start of 534 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: the season. At the point where you have to wonder 535 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: that m Coach Peterson said the expectation, and I like 536 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: how he said this is the expectation. Well, they said 537 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: it for him to be because he's told them I 538 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: want to play, so they said, well, this is what 539 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: you have to get. But I still think because he's 540 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: such a productive playmaker. I mean you look at what 541 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: what does he scored seventeen eighteen rushing touchdowns in twenty 542 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: eight games. You can wait. They've got some guys. I 543 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: talked to Bernie Parmley, the running backs coach today, if 544 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: they have to wait on him. They're really comfortable with 545 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: some of those guys that they've got behind him. And 546 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: so you want to make sure that when you put 547 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: him out there, he can protect himself and then he 548 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: can be productive. He can get to the end zone, 549 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: he can do those things. No reason to rush it. 550 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: The chilles is a major injury, and at this point, 551 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: what's two more weeks, right if you have to wait 552 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: till October one to get him or even November one 553 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: to get him back, not well as close to a 554 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: percent as you get. You know, three years in the 555 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: league with an achilles, and those guys will tell you 556 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: you're never quite the same. Absolutely, And that is our 557 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: top storylines from Thursday's training camp practice. When we come 558 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: back on Jaguars Drive time, some closing thoughts. Pet Paradise, 559 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: the official pet care provider of the Jacksonville Jaguars, books 560 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: today at pet paradise dot com. We're back to Jaguars 561 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: Drive time for one more segment, getting ready for a 562 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: third preseason game against the Steelers in Jacksonville Saturday night 563 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: at seven o'clock. Brian Sexson will be on the preseason 564 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: broadcast with Bucky Brooks and Brent Martineau. Looking forward to it. 565 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: The production meetings coming up. I suppose those are tomorrow, 566 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: so I know the coach will be there. I'm not 567 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: sure exactly who the players are, and it's just a 568 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: great opportunity to get their perspective. There's no cameras on. 569 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily on the record or off the record. 570 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: It's just a little perspective on background, maybe some of 571 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: the things we've seen and how they feel and stories, 572 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: and that's what you get into the second half of 573 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: a preseason game, right and you it's all storytelling. It's 574 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: all storytelling. So we have to have our stories ready 575 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: and just wait till next week in Atlanta. Ya. I 576 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: love I mean, I love, I love the play by play. 577 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: I enjoyed so much so I enjoy it. But I 578 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: will I won't lie. You get into the like six 579 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: minutes to go in the fourth quarter, it can be 580 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: a grind. It's a grind to watch, I know. And 581 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: it's not for those guys because those are everything to 582 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: them because they don't know whether that's their last ever 583 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: snap in an NFL game. Um, they don't know what 584 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: opportunities are there. So you kind of have to focus 585 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: on those stories. But it's yeah, we can complain, we're 586 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: you know, reporters standing out on the practice. Oh it's 587 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: so hot, and oh it can be boring, but you 588 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: forget that the story of the storytelling is the important 589 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: part and people want to hear it. Absolutely. I will 590 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: hurt myself complaining. Actually yesterday with how hot it was 591 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: on the practical and I have to stand out there 592 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: for two and a half hour and I was sweating 593 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: and just do not know to go around and find 594 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: the shade. And then I looked behind me and I 595 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: saw the dehydration tent, a couple of guys in there, 596 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, I must stop complaining. 597 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, as I go and I grab it 598 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: ice cold, gatorade. Nothing all right. That is Jaguars drive 599 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: time on a Thursdays Day with us on Jaguars dot 600 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: Com all week long. We'll have all of your game 601 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: coverage on Saturday, and we'll be back with you Monday morning, 602 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: right and early