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Speaker 1: Hey, guys of Lomally the show What Normalist Takes for

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Speaker 1: Women News gets weird and it's always weird.

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Speaker 2: I'm got to him, and I'm Carol Markowitis. Well, the

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Speaker 2: weird story is that New York City had a democratic

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Speaker 2: primary and a I would say, a communist one. I don't.

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Speaker 2: He's calling himself a democratic socialist. But anyone who wants

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Speaker 2: government run grocery stores and you know, to be able

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Speaker 2: to enforce what people can charge for rent, that seems

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Speaker 2: more communist to me.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Mary Catherine oh Man?

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Speaker 1: Look, this is the primary, which generally just decides the

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Speaker 1: mayor's race in New York because it's so heavily democratic.

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Speaker 1: He ran against Andrew Cuomo, who was the other guy

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Speaker 1: at the head of the pack in your fave what's

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Speaker 1: his name.

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Speaker 2: Rad Lander.

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Speaker 1: Yes, none of these people deserve to win.

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Speaker 2: No, No, they're all uniquely terrible. But it does seem

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Speaker 2: like Zorin Mamandi, who won the primary, is the worst

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Speaker 2: As of ten pm last night, ninety three percent of

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Speaker 2: the vote in Mamdani led Cuomo forty four to thirty

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Speaker 2: six In the first round of this new process. It's

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Speaker 2: ranked choice voting that New York has implemented since I've

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Speaker 2: been gone. And what's interesting is that the full results

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Speaker 2: won't be in until July first, because this is a

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Speaker 2: really complicated system that they chose to have for some reason.

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Speaker 2: But Cuomo saw the writing on the wall and conceded

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Speaker 2: in the Democratic primary last night.

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Speaker 1: That yeah, it's humiliating for Cuomo whoever wins this. By

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Speaker 1: the way, officially we'll go on to a general election

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Speaker 1: where there will be a not very good GOP candidate

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Speaker 1: and Eric Adams, the current mayor, running as an independent,

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Speaker 1: so there is yet another hurdle. But Cuomo deserved to

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Speaker 1: be humiliated. It It was hurting my soul to have

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Speaker 1: to say he's the lesser evil of these two, right,

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Speaker 1: But like corrupt bad guy versus socialist bad guy or

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Speaker 1: communist bad guy, it's a tough one, guys. I'm it's

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Speaker 1: it's to the everlasting shame of the Democratic Party in

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Speaker 1: New York City that has so many Democrats at its

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Speaker 1: disposal that they can't do better than these two. But

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Speaker 1: I think if mom Dami Mamdani becomes actual mayor, it's

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Speaker 1: really bad for the city. And I do not live

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Speaker 1: I think the people of the city deserve better, just

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Speaker 2: Right. There is the additional thing here that Cuomo has

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Speaker 2: as well. His third party party is called Fight and Deliver.

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Speaker 2: He's going to have to be talked out of that

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Speaker 2: by the same people who endorsed him. That is Bill Clinton,

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Speaker 2: that is the New York Times editorial board. They're going

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Speaker 2: to have to say, you need to step aside, and

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Speaker 2: it has to be an Adams versus Mom Donnie showdown

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Speaker 2: with Curtis Leiva, kind of playing the spoiler there. I

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Speaker 2: would also say that it's really tough to watch what's

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Speaker 2: I know that there are so many people who did

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Speaker 2: registered Democrats. And you know, for all the every vote

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Speaker 2: counts and everybody should be able to vote, and you know,

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Speaker 2: we're so pro democracy. The Democrats have a closed primary

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Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo split the non Mumdani vote, and that will

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Speaker 2: be the real problem. I also sort of note, and

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Speaker 2: I think you know, we talked about this on previous episodes.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Cuomo ran as if something was owed to him.

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Speaker 2: He ran as if you are all so blessed to

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Speaker 2: have me, Andrew Cuomo, come down from my Albany perch

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Speaker 2: He skipped several mayoral forums, like as if he was,

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Speaker 2: many different ways, but he put in the work, and

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Speaker 2: that's ultimately what campaigns are about.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is the Hillary Clinton model. Hey, I'm super

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Speaker 1: unlikable and I have high name, I d and I

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Speaker 1: want this job. I'm entitled to this job title. They're

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Speaker 2: It's not good, doesn't really work. No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I advise candidates not to do that because people see

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Speaker 2: I think nationally, Democrats have to be hoping that he

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Speaker 2: does not become their political star. He may work on

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Speaker 2: and AOC right, Well.

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Speaker 1: He's certainly because he put in work. And I don't

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Speaker 1: want to discount that because like it was sort of

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Speaker 1: a clever campaign. Now it's not clever. Is just telling

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Speaker 1: people you're going to give them free things that you

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Speaker 1: can't give them because that's a very easy way to win.

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Speaker 1: But he communicated well, his branding was cool, like this

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Speaker 1: this is the game, you know, like he played the game.

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Speaker 1: His name ID will be huge now, his ability to

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Speaker 1: raise money will be huge. Those things will make him

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Speaker 1: huge within the Democratic Party period, no matter what happens.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right that he's a turnoff to most

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Speaker 1: the way, specifically segregated in its voting patterns by education

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Speaker 1: and income. Highly educated that white, affluent voters were happy

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Speaker 1: really split that way. I think it would be obviously

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Speaker 1: of his education ideas are terrible, As trace Woodgrains notes,

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Speaker 1: nobody talked about it much, but he wants to get

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Speaker 1: New York, and he also has this in his platform.

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Speaker 1: Eliminate the use of exclusionary admissions practices that create segregation

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Speaker 1: by race, class, disability, home language, and academic ability. This

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Speaker 1: includes the exclusionary use of school screens such as Greats,

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Speaker 1: test scores, auditions, performance and interviews, behavior, lateness, and attendance.

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Speaker 1: If you put that platform plank in front of every normy,

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Speaker 1: that's a ninety ten issue against like people hate that right.

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Speaker 2: Well, both Build de Blasio and my buddy Brad Lander

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Speaker 2: screens in place. It's a very convenient little situation they have.

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Speaker 2: At least mo'm donnie. I doesn't have kids, and I

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Speaker 2: don't believe this affects him, but it's interesting because Mam

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Speaker 2: Donnie won the over one hundred thousand earners by thirteen points.

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Speaker 2: You know, when I think about this, especially about the schools,

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Speaker 2: anything that he does, his voter base will be able

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Speaker 2: be able to figure out a way out, which is,

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Speaker 2: you know, pretty terrible for the under fifty thousand who

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Speaker 2: voted for Cuomo by nineteen points, they won't be able

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Speaker 2: to have these options. They are trying. They tried to

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Speaker 2: vote themselves to something resembling sanity. And again, I hate

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Speaker 2: describing Andrew Cmo as some kind of great hope it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, he is a terrible governor, and he's a

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Speaker 2: didn't see him as a good mayor. But it was comparatively,

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Speaker 2: when you're comparing to a legit communist who wanted to

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Speaker 2: defund police, who has all these terrible ideas, Cuomo becomes

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Speaker 2: more appealing. I would also add, you know, there's this

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Speaker 2: thing on the right today that's like, well, New York

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Speaker 2: has all these foreign born people, and you know this

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Speaker 2: that the foreign born people, the foreign born white people

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Speaker 2: mostly voted for Andrew Cuomo. And I would say that

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Speaker 2: is like, even among Democrats in my part of Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: So and I don't if you're on the right, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to fall into the same trap that democrats

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Speaker 1: to I'm assuming immigrant equals liberal. Well, why would you

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Speaker 1: assume that we have done a lot of work actually,

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Speaker 1: don't write them off. Yeah, it's there's also the part

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Speaker 1: where he's like happily marched with the pro Palestinian pro

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Speaker 1: him the encampment candidate. Yeah, and it is quite something

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Speaker 1: you would think it. I never doubted that it was

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Speaker 1: possible that New York City could have a Muslim mayor,

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Speaker 1: but I would have thought that the Muslim mayor candidate

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Speaker 1: it's just like a It's a totally benign phrase. It's cool, guys,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I want to vote on the

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Speaker 1: point of whether Democrats are going to turn away or

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Speaker 1: toward this new celebrity. Dan Pfeiffer of the Obama Years

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Speaker 1: communications guy, he says, what's happening in New York City

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Speaker 1: is a blaringly loud message to those in dim establishment.

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Speaker 1: Hi that's you who still cling to old politics, recite

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Speaker 1: learn from Zoron, Mandani and his campaign, and then Rocana,

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Speaker 1: who is one of the more sensible members of this

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Speaker 1: party on various issues, including free speech. Occasionally, said Dan Pfeiffer,

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Speaker 1: gave me the best political advice anyone ever has. Obama

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Speaker 1: stand for something. Zoron stood for his values and something new,

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Speaker 1: the month might last a little while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, it's he is in pole position to

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Speaker 2: but it he is likely going to be the next

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Speaker 2: New York City mayor. Our friend justin Robert Young said,

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Speaker 2: you know, he could see the soft focused New York

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Speaker 2: Times magazine cover story now still here why Adams can't

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Speaker 2: quit on his city because they're going to realize they

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Speaker 2: rather have Adams any day and the week still there.

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Speaker 2: I love it, right, like we could picture it with

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Speaker 2: Adams looking like resolute in his like blue suit. I

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Speaker 2: that all the polls had Andrew Cuomo crushing until this

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Speaker 2: last week, we're only one pole had Mom Donnie ahead

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Speaker 2: pulling in this race was an absolute disaster. There at

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Speaker 2: the top of my losers of the day list the

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Speaker 1: Like that's now we're ignoring the Supreme Court for the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just don't hear anything from the left about

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Speaker 1: It's the Bachelor standard. You have to be doing the

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Speaker 2: We'll be right back on normally. The New York Times

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Speaker 2: Nobody learns anything. You think right, Well, today or this week.

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Speaker 2: The column is called Men, where have you gone? Please

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Speaker 2: Yes, But the men who who kind of just have

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Speaker 1: Men do exist.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they've moved.

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Speaker 1: Is the dudes like to hang out with dudes who

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Speaker 2: This is equation, right, Yeah, look what you've done to

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Speaker 1: Come back then, yeah, they'll come to Florida. Please.

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