1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Hey, we've got Craig Mish the most style day and 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: on the Marlins four years. You can catch them on 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: TV cover in the Marlins, also on Sports Grid. Craig, 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: great to see you and fun times. And I requested 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: you yesterday because I'm like, we got to bring Craig 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Mish on when things are going right for the Fish. 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: I know they lost yesterday, but they've been on an 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: epic run and they had the big weekend against the 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Yanks with the Place Bowl. So how are things going 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: down in South Florida right now? 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: Guess Scott, I feel like I come on here playing 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: defense every time I come on here, and. 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: Now you can attack, go for it. Give us the goods. 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: What's working some offense? On offense? 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they've they've played their best baseball 16 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: since they won the World Series in ninety seven and 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: in two thousand and three, and they just keep winning 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: series after series. 19 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who they put in front. 20 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: Of them, it doesn't matter who's at home or on 21 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: the road, and it's just really they've just played incredibles. 22 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: If you consider there were sixteen games under five hundred 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: and now they're back to five hundred as of yesterday 24 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: losing to the Astros. 25 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: Now they're one game back again. 26 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: But it's one of those years where I guess you 27 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: could say expect the unaffected, because I don't think anybody 28 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: could have predicted them to finish close to five hundred 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: this year. 30 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: Hey, Craig, I want to stay there. We talk about 31 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 4: what the Tigers did last year. Right we look at 32 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: the Marlins right now. I think they're what six games 33 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: out of the wildcard spot. Can they be the Tigers 34 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 4: of last year and make a run that's simple? 35 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's possible. I think they're in 36 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of a tougher position in the National 37 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: League given the teams that are ahead of him. You know, 38 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: they're really talented teams there, and they're also you know 39 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: in the mix with the Cardinals, Cam and also the Giants. 40 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: I know that we don't feel great about those teams, 41 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: not really pushing the foot on the pedal here at 42 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: the deadline, but we do have to acknowledge they do 43 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: have around the same record as the Marlins. So look, 44 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: they kept a lot of the pitching together, and they've 45 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: called up some nice young players. They called up this kid, 46 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: Jacob Marcy, who after they traded Jesu Sanchez to Houston, 47 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: has gotten on base at an incredible clip and he's 48 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: playing good defense too. It seems like they have more 49 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: reinforcements cam In the past, generally speaking, the Marlins always 50 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: fielded a team, but then one or two goes down 51 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: and then it's like, wow, we don't got anybody else. 52 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: It feels like they have some of those guys that 53 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: have come up this season and raised the floor, so 54 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: to speak. 55 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 5: I want to talk about Sandy al Contera a little 56 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 5: bit here. I thought, I mean a lot of people 57 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 5: did that he was the guy that was going to 58 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 5: get traded at the deadline here. I thought he could 59 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 5: have been used in other teams. Was there anything going 60 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 5: into it knowing that, hey, we might have a chance 61 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: here to make the playoff? Did that play a part 62 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 5: in it? Or is just something didn't work there and 63 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 5: it didn't seem like the right fit as they were moving. 64 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: Forward, Yeah, I'm gonna go Todd seventy thirty meaning seventy 65 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: let's explore trades and then pull back to about you know, 66 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: the thirty percent As they went into. 67 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: That last day. 68 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: You know, I think that I broke that maybe with 69 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes to go in the deadline. But Todd, 70 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 2: truth be told, I think they made that decision a 71 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: lot earlier in the day when they realized the teams 72 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: were not just going to pay their price for what 73 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: they were looking for, which was very high end prospects 74 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: at from a lot of different teams. So, look, he 75 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: didn't have a great start yesterday. He's definitely been tinkering 76 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: with his arsenal, throwing more curveballs, which is not something 77 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: that he's generally done in the past, just trying to 78 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: get out any way that he can. But if he 79 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: does finish the season, well, I would imagine the Marlins 80 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: will take a look at this again and say, hey, 81 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: look is this something we can explore, or potentially they'll 82 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: roll back with him for another season. 83 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: All right, So give me the glimpse of the trade 84 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: picture in general from the deadline. 85 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: You know, what were you. 86 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: Hearing besides Sandy, did you think there was any chance 87 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera was going to get dealt or really anyone else? 88 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: Like the relievers. 89 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure the team was thrilled that there weren't as 90 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: many deals as anticipated with them because it helps them 91 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: gone this nice little run and also teach some of 92 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: the young guys how to win, which I do think 93 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,279 Speaker 1: is an important part of rebuilt process. 94 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: Yes, Scott, it'll be great for next year to see 95 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: those guys in the way they prepare for games. I 96 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: think you're exactly right. Yeah, No, Edward Cabrera was also 97 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: a player that easily could have been traded if a 98 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: team like Boston or Chicago or another team would have 99 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: offered up their very best prospects and then some. 100 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: That was the key. 101 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: The Marlins were looking for multiple players, so just one 102 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: of the top guys wasn't going to get it done. 103 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: And Scott, the reason. 104 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: Why is not just because Edward Cabrera is pitching very 105 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: well or Sandy al Contras won the cy young. They 106 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: still have team control with Sandy next year and with 107 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera for a couple of more years. And you 108 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 2: saw what the relief pitchers were going for. I mean, 109 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: the Marlins were well within their right to ask for 110 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: a king's ransom for those players. So once it didn't happen, 111 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: they just decided to pull back. But you know, I 112 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: want to be clear, because it's definitely a fair question 113 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: that Todd asked too. They went in with an open 114 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: mind to trading those players. So while yes, it is 115 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: a great story that they held some back and that 116 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: will help them win, that absolutely is true. But the 117 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: way that this organization is run, as Peter Bendix, the 118 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: President Baseball Operations, always says, is they're going to have 119 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: one eye on the president and one eye in the future. 120 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have surprised me if one of them got traded, 121 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: both of them got traded, or in this case, none 122 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: of them got traded. 123 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: I want I want to stay there because you said 124 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: something that I've been thinking about even as they dangled 125 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: those pieces out there to kind of see what they 126 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 4: could get. The most important thing, Craig, you said it control. 127 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 4: And now here we are, they're showing some glimpses of 128 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: plants together. 129 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 6: Showing some athletics, leticism. They're a fun team to watch. 130 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 4: If you actually two in to watch the Marlins play, 131 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 4: there's gonna be some action, some things happen. 132 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 6: They got some really nice young pieces. But when we 133 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 6: talk about that. 134 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: Control, what is the outlook now that they're showing, Hey, 135 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 4: maybe if we do learn how to win, like Scottie says, 136 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: maybe we don't just abort and we hold on these 137 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 4: special pieces like Edward Carbrera, like Sandy who. You know, 138 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 4: if they get right or if they continue to grow, 139 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 4: they could be some of the best arms that we 140 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: see in the game. 141 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: You know. 142 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: Can They do have players that they would like to 143 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: see in the minor leagues as well. In one of 144 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: the trades that they made with the Padres, they got 145 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: this kid, Robbie Snelling, who's been as good as any pitcher. 146 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: In the minor leagues. They haven't even seen him yet. 147 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: And they drafted a couple of years ago a kid 148 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: named Thomas White, who at his level, he's been one 149 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: of the best pitchers too. So I mean, look, there's 150 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: always room for pitching. Because pitchers always get hurt. We 151 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: have to call it what it is. The Marlins have 152 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 2: been extremely fortunate on the injury side this year. They've 153 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 2: been a very healthy team. I think that has helped also. 154 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: Now the things they're doing behind the scenes keeping guys healthy, 155 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 2: I can't speak to that. I know, teams like the Braves, 156 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: everybody's getting hurt. Teams like the Marlins, everybody seems to 157 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: be healthy for the most part. 158 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: This season. 159 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: They've had their fair share of injuries, so I think 160 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: that's important cam for the future. But we also have 161 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: to acknowledge that no one in baseball, including the Marlins, 162 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 2: thought that Kyle Stowars would finish top three or five 163 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: in the most vile voting in the National League. And 164 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: when you have that kind of player on a team, 165 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: that's Aaron Judge or show Heyo Tani or Kyle Tucker, 166 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he has those numbers like those guys this 167 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: year and no one saw it coming so inevitably. With 168 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: that and the call up of Augustin Ramirez, who's played fantastic, 169 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: He's been a great hitter for them. 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Foul. 192 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 6: You answered my next question. 193 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, when you look back at that 194 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 4: Trevor Rodgers trade, Connor Norby was like the big piece. 195 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 6: Stowers was kind of almost the throwing guy. 196 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: So I was gonna say, where is Connor Norby on this, 197 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: you know, on his progression and his journey? 198 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 6: And then you kind of answered it. 199 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: I mean, how pleasantly surprised have they been with Kyle 200 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: Kyle Stowers and did they expect this? 201 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, it's really kim an interesting trade 202 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: because if you think about it, and you think back 203 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 2: a few months ago, it looked like at the t 204 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: and by the way, Kyle Stouwers has been awesome, and 205 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: I think Norby will be an everyday player in the 206 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: big leagues. He hasn't been healthy, a little bit of 207 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: mixed results this season. They like him to do things 208 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: a little bit differently at the plate, not you know, 209 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: better swing decisions, I think is what the Barlins call it. 210 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: But you know that that is something he can fix 211 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: in the future. But I don't want to completely take 212 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: down the Orioles in this trade, guys, because all of 213 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: a sudden, Trevor Rodgers looks like he has figured it 214 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: out back to when he won Rookie of the Year 215 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: with the Barlins several years ago. So it really could 216 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: end up being a good trade for both sides. We'll 217 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 2: see if right now the Marlins have the edge here 218 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: without a doubt, because Towers. I don't think the Oils 219 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: would have ever even dangled him if they would have 220 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: thought that was the case. 221 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: But Cam, you are right when that trade was made, That's. 222 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: What I was told too, is the trade is for 223 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 2: Connor Orby and Kyle Stowers. And it has turned out 224 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: to be maybe one of the best trades the Barlins 225 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: have ever made in their history. 226 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been ridiculous. And for Rogers, I didn't have 227 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: time to look it up, but I think that after 228 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: next season he's a free agent. Right, they have one 229 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: more season, one more year. Okay, so and Sotowers has 230 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: what four or five? 231 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: He's got several. 232 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: But if you what's crazy, Scott is if you can see, 233 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: this is what what bothers me. And no one could 234 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: give me a real explanation about war, which is the 235 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: stat that everybody goes looks like like Trevor Rodgers can 236 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: pitch in three or four games and have a higher 237 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: war right now than Norby and Stowars. 238 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: Combined, Like, how is that even possible? That's why I 239 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: love War. 240 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: I get it, but I'm never gonna understand how that 241 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: works because this guy Stowars has been unbelievable for one 242 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen games. Rogers comes up, pitches a few, 243 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it's the same. But this 244 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: is what teams are judging contracts and players by. And look, 245 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: I got to give credit to Trevor Rodgers. I thought 246 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: he was cooked. I thought it was over and he's 247 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: really bounced back. 248 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Orioles have done a nice job 249 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: with development with him and also him just getting healthy again. 250 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: I see what you're talking about. Yeah, Rogers, at least 251 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: for Baseball reference, war is two point nine, Stowers three 252 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: point six. I personally will still take Stours for now, 253 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: but I get it. Hey, if you're pitching like a 254 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: number one, which he has been for the last month 255 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: and a half, you know, that's great, so win for 256 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: everyone in the Oriols. They need starting pitching, all right, 257 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: So let's finish with this manager. Clayton mccaulla's over. I 258 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: don't feel like he gets a lot of attention right now, 259 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: So tell us about what it's been like to cover 260 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: him and what he's bringing that's different from what other 261 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: Marlins managers have tried. 262 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 263 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think the first thing that happened was when 264 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: McCullough was hired. They realized that they had a guy 265 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: that was going on board with all of these different 266 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 2: ideas and development processes that they had. That was the 267 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: number one thing that was with Clayton McCullough. And so 268 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 2: so far, so good in spring training, because you know, 269 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: when you bring in a whole new staff. And you know, 270 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: obviously Gabe Kapler is their assistant general manager. He brings 271 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: a wealth of experience and a lot of new and 272 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: intriguing ideas to the organization when he was hired as well, 273 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: So everybody sort of has to be on board with that, 274 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 2: and so he checked that box immediately. Then from there, 275 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: what you started hearing is not only is this guy 276 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: just a baseball lifer, but he's like a lot of 277 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: fun to be around in the clubhouse. And he's like, 278 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: when it started, my background died and one of the guys. 279 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: So he's really been I think a breath of fresh 280 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 2: air for the team this season, and again getting along 281 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: with everybody in the organization has been a clear positive 282 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: for them. 283 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 4: Hey, one last one fan question from for you from 284 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 4: Ryan Bloomberg. Marlins are training four or training four for sure. 285 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: They almost have to stand pat in the offseason and 286 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 4: run it back in twenty six. 287 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 6: The thing is will they do it. 288 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: Well they run it back? I mean I need to 289 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: be more specific. You mean like keeping every single player 290 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: that's on the roster. 291 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 4: I'm assuming that means the core pece, whatever the core 292 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: pieces are. 293 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 6: Let's just what are the core pieces right is I think. 294 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: I just want to add, yeah, Cabrera's Contra et cetera. 295 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Like I think he's saying, like, you're gonna keep all 296 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: these guys so that the rotation can have al Contra Cabrera. 297 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't think up next years you think they'll trade 298 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: al Contra. 299 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: I don't know who they'll trade, Scott. 300 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: But you know the great thing is, even though it 301 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: will not be exact and can it will this will 302 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: be very much the way that Tampa Bay does business. 303 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: Does Tampa Bay ever run it back? 304 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 6: No? 305 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly exactly you there you go, Ryan, that's the answer. 306 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 6: It's very similar to temporary tempa rays. 307 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's the blueprint. That's why they brought in Peter Bendix. 308 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: Creg you're the man. Thank you so much for joining us. 309 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: Give it, Craig a file if you don't already. Most 310 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: dialed in on the Marlins for years at Craig Mish 311 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: very nice and simple for following m I s H. 312 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Thanks Craig, good to see you man. 313 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you two Scott have a great day. Guys. 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I remember watching it, it just seemed like 343 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: boom boom. It was compared to last year, right, compared 344 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 5: to last year. I mean, honestly, it was a whirlwind. 345 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I know, you guys were going back and forth. 346 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: It's fun. 347 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 5: You know, we talked about the Yankees. I thought they 348 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 5: got a pluthorwer guys. Red Sox what the Red Sox too. 349 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: They got Dustin May for the back end of the rotation, 350 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: and they straight away Blaze Jordan, who's having a great 351 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: year Upper Minors for Steven Mattz. And that is That's. 352 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: It, And that's that's what I'm trying to get at. 353 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 5: Like this team has is in the right direction of 354 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 5: moving forward. They're doing really good right now. I think 355 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 5: that was the team I was a little disappointed in. 356 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: There's another team. I let Cam go on. But you know, 357 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 5: I had them making I have them making the playoffs 358 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 5: this year, and I thought they were going to be 359 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 5: even better than what they were. They've had their struggles, 360 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 5: but man, like, put your money where your mouth is, 361 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 5: go get somebody to go, get another starter, get another 362 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 5: another bat something. I mean you know, they talk about it, 363 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 5: but you know, I don't know. I think that's the 364 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 5: team that for me, I was just a little disappointed. 365 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 5: And there's others, but that's the one I think about 366 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 5: that where they could make even bigger push to win 367 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 5: the division considering what the Yankees are doing. 368 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: Our resident GM Jim Bowden said that they were the 369 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: toughest team to deal with because they asked for too 370 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: much in deals, right, like you're not getting fair compensation 371 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: and deals according to most there, and Bob Nightingale said 372 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: the same thing that they were difficult to work with. 373 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: He specifically said, I'm going to be on here tomorrow too, 374 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: so we can we can ask tomorrow. He'll be on 375 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: with us tomorrow. Cam, what did you think about the deadline? 376 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: And do you have anything for us on the Red 377 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: Sox because they're playing good ball, so that's like the US, Right, 378 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: they're having a great week, but this team could win 379 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: a World Series And he didn't supplement it. 380 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm with Tie. I think Ty said it all. 381 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 6: But for me, you know, one thing. 382 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: I really like is as we watch the Phillies go 383 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: out and get one of the best closes in the game, 384 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: I like that the Mets said, you know what, hold on. 385 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 6: A minute, We're gonna go get Ryan Hailsley. 386 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: We're gonna get Tyler Rogers, Gregory and Cedric Mullins to 387 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 4: kind of help that defense as well. Right, I'm one 388 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: of those guys that I don't really buy into the 389 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 4: defensive metrics a lot. I watched the games, and the 390 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 4: defensive metrics will try to tell me that Cedric Hunter 391 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 4: excuse me, yeah, yeah, that Cedric Mullins cannot go get 392 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 4: a baseball. 393 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 6: They're tripping. 394 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: I think he's a big upgrade from what they had 395 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: in center. So I just like that the Mets tried 396 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: to go, you know, lock Stafford Key to try to 397 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: keep up with the Phillies. Even though I still worry 398 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 4: about that starting rotation. I like what they did. I 399 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 4: think we could talk about the Padres. I talked a 400 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: lot about the Padres and how aj Preller. If I'm 401 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 4: a Padres fan, I love a J Preller, Right. I 402 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: know he got rid of maybe one of the top 403 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 4: prospects in baseball. But when I was coming up, people 404 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: told me, prospect just meant you hadn't done anything yet, right, 405 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 4: so it was worth giving up a shot if you're 406 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: trying to win now, and teams used to try to 407 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 4: win now. So I applau AJ Preller for going out 408 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 4: and really really putting his best foot forward, saying, you 409 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: know what, I'm gonna. 410 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 6: Give up these prospects. And you have to give him credit. 411 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 6: He always find a way to replenish the organization. 412 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: We're prospects to go out and make these moves every year, 413 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: so it's not like they're giving up all these prospects 414 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: and not getting anything back to go ahead and do 415 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: it again next year. So shout out to A. J. 416 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 4: Peler and the Padres. I think they did a great job. 417 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: Cam. 418 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: You played with Carlos Correa when he was with the Astros, 419 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: and he's had an interesting journey right ends up with 420 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: the Twins, then has the signing issues with the Medicals, 421 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: with the Giants and the Mets, ends up back with 422 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: the Twins, now gets traded to Houston. That was the 423 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: most shocking move, right, not just that. I actually if 424 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: you told me, hey, he'll end up back in Houston, 425 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, right, he loved it there. Twins 426 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: weren't going to have him through the whole contract most likely, 427 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: but during the season, they figured it out and actually 428 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: I think it was Jeff Passens report yesterday he said, 429 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: originally they wanted Griffin Jackson the deal, and they wanted 430 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: them to eat half the contract about fifty million dollars, 431 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: and so it was debt and then the Astros eventually 432 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: called back like, how about we eat like thirty isshes, 433 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: keep Jacks or trade him somewhere and then they get 434 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: it done. 435 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 6: Yeah. I love this. 436 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 4: I love this for one because I was never, you know, 437 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: blessed enough to be in that position to sign a 438 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: deal like Carlos Correa. 439 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 6: Right. 440 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: I think sometimes it's players you do that right, you 441 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: do what you do what you need to do to 442 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 4: take care of your family. But on the other end 443 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: of it, the Astros knew him right, even being being 444 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 4: there in twenty seventeen and understanding how the analytic department 445 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 4: and the information that they you know, they conversated about. 446 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: It's it's sometimes you take for granted that, you know, 447 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: being in a place that knows you right, and thinking 448 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: that the grass will be greener on the other side 449 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 4: because the money's better. And I think this is a 450 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: situation where you know both sides are going, let's get 451 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: that old thing back. 452 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: Right. 453 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 6: This is like that accident. 454 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: It's like, you know what, let's go out there, let's date, 455 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: let's see how everything goes, and then all of a 456 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 4: sudden you realize you're better off with each other. Right, 457 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: So you saw my tweet right there, I'm like, hell, 458 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 4: while they're at it, go ahead and. 459 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 6: Resign Bragg and you put him at second. Right. 460 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: We know he can play the middle of the infield, 461 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: and go ahead and bring that old thing back and 462 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: put it back together move before. But I love this 463 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: move for the fan. I love it for Colos Korea. 464 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 4: We saw him in Boston. Now they didn't you know, 465 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 4: fare that will, but he came out, I mean, you know, 466 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: hit a big homer to kind of, you know, create 467 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: that buzz again. 468 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 6: So I'm excited to see what they're gonna do. 469 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: And they made some good moves to kind of show 470 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 4: up that defense in Ureus and and some other guys 471 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 4: as well. 472 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 6: So I like what they did. And I definitely like 473 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 6: bringing Carlos back home as we could, we should say. 474 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they have him for three and a half 475 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: more seasons and they're going to pay seventy something million 476 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: dollars if you go back several years ago. I mean 477 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Korea wanted mid three hundreds, and he did get it. 478 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: He got three something I think it was low threes, 479 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: three fifteen or something like that from the Giants, and 480 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: then the Mets offer was lower, and then eventually the 481 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: Twins offer was I think in the in the mid 482 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: to high hundreds. But if you're the Astros, this is 483 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: why they say to themselves, we're not signing a player 484 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: to a seven, eight, nine, ten year deal for hundreds 485 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars. And look, one of the guys 486 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: who they wanted to keep very badly as much as 487 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: anyone in their Frameschise history. They end up getting him back. 488 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: And so I think Cam that's probably part of why 489 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: they went from saying, hey, fifty and it came down 490 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: to thirty, and they're like, think about it, we were 491 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: thinking about having this guy for five six more years 492 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: and two hundred something million dollars. Now we're getting him 493 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: back for three and a half at seventy and change. 494 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: And if they believe in him and that he can 495 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: stay healthy enough for the next few years and they 496 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: know he's you know, part of the spiritual leadership within 497 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: the clubhouse, there that's a bargain for them, and not 498 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: with and not and. 499 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 6: Not out the realm of hey, check this out. 500 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 4: Let's say he plays good for two more years and 501 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 4: all of a sudden that third year and like we can. 502 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 6: Flip him again and get something else for him. 503 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you never know, it might be a 504 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 4: situation where who knows where the Astros are three years 505 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: from now, and they're like where Carlos is playing really 506 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: well and somebody else may need him to go play 507 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: third there. You know, there's a lot of possibilities that really, 508 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 4: I really like how it's worked out for both sides. 509 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: I really do. 510 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 6: I really do. Actually, there was that a player option 511 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 6: or team option as far as that trade goes. Was 512 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 6: that a I'm just curious which one the Carlos. 513 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: Going back to Houston was that a club? Was that 514 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: a player option or a team option as far as well? 515 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: So the team obviously traded him, but he had a 516 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: no trade class and that he's initially in the stories 517 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: that I've read, he said that he gave approval only 518 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: to the Astros, which were the only team that was 519 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: really in the running, So it all makes sense. But yeah, 520 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: he had to he had to approve it, so it 521 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: was really ever he had the option to say, nah, 522 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: I'm staying here in Minnesota if I want, but all right, Minnesota. 523 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 6: Says a lot. That says exactly. 524 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: That says a lot that he's like, you know what, 525 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 4: ain't that upset, you know, I'm not that upset that 526 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: you didn't. 527 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 6: Take care of me in the first the first time, Astros. 528 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: You know what, I missed that old thing. You know what, 529 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 4: It's okay, you know, so, I just it says a 530 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 4: lot about how they parted. Weighs and I love this, 531 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 4: I absolutely love it. 532 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I actually think he's going to retire there because I 533 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: think he's got three and a half years left with 534 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: the way the body's working in the age, so I 535 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: think he'll finish up there with the shows. Much more 536 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: on the shows on crush Citty Territory. Check that show out, 537 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: Chandler Rome leading the charge there with Tyler Stafford to 538 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: get a little Josh Reddick does