WEBVTT - Inez Stepman - Winner Take All Politics 0:00:11.697 --> 0:00:14.937 You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 0:00:14.977 --> 0:00:17.977 you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 0:00:18.017 --> 0:00:19.737 wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:20.337 --> 0:00:24.217 Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show NYC edition. 0:00:25.017 --> 0:00:28.977 We're joined by my friend Inez Felcher. Stepmansch is a 0:00:29.257 --> 0:00:33.937 fellow at the Independent Women's Forum, a writer, a scholar 0:00:34.057 --> 0:00:40.497 of many things, and currently on tiny adorable kitten babysitting duty. 0:00:40.617 --> 0:00:43.137 I am told so es, thanks for being with us. 0:00:44.297 --> 0:00:46.217 It's great to be here, Buck, And yes, I am. 0:00:46.257 --> 0:00:48.177 It's not my usual setup because I have a tiny 0:00:48.257 --> 0:00:49.017 kitten behind me. 0:00:49.297 --> 0:00:51.697 I have been I have been dealing with my two 0:00:51.777 --> 0:00:55.177 year old nephew, which you know, helping my sister to 0:00:55.177 --> 0:00:57.217 babysit a little bit. And I can tell you that 0:00:57.297 --> 0:01:00.697 the kitten sounds great right about now because the kittens, 0:01:00.857 --> 0:01:03.777 I'm sure, very very easy, very straightforward. All right, let's 0:01:03.857 --> 0:01:07.337 let's jump into this. It does the current situation. I 0:01:07.377 --> 0:01:09.937 saw you tweet on this where you have and this 0:01:10.057 --> 0:01:13.257 This isn't about oh I like this person or oh 0:01:13.297 --> 0:01:15.337 I like that person or this person she would It's 0:01:15.377 --> 0:01:20.217 just an observation on the current political scene. You have 0:01:20.897 --> 0:01:25.737 the front runner for the Republicans indicted and facing almost 0:01:25.737 --> 0:01:32.297 certainly additional felony criminal indictments, and you have a Democrat 0:01:32.897 --> 0:01:38.657 who certainly it seems should be facing impeachment and also 0:01:38.897 --> 0:01:41.537 possibly criminal indictments. 0:01:41.777 --> 0:01:43.257 What does this do to politics? 0:01:44.777 --> 0:01:48.577 Yeah, so, of course that's in reference to the most 0:01:48.657 --> 0:01:52.377 recent whistleblower evidence from these IRS agents who have come 0:01:52.377 --> 0:01:56.137 out and sort of directly accused Biden of being Joe Biden, 0:01:56.217 --> 0:02:01.177 that is, of being involved in his son's corruption. They 0:02:01.177 --> 0:02:04.417 have that signal chat where he's talking about being right 0:02:04.457 --> 0:02:06.737 next to his dad and how his dad's influence is 0:02:06.777 --> 0:02:09.617 going to come down on this guy, this Chinese guy, 0:02:09.657 --> 0:02:12.497 like a ton of bricks, if you know, if he 0:02:12.537 --> 0:02:15.177 doesn't hand over the money, right, and this is sort 0:02:15.217 --> 0:02:18.657 of being Joe Biden's bag man. All those accusations now 0:02:18.737 --> 0:02:21.537 out into the public. But I want to take a 0:02:21.577 --> 0:02:23.857 step back, and yes, even on the other side, we 0:02:23.897 --> 0:02:26.937 can talk about political persecution of course of Donald Trump. 0:02:27.577 --> 0:02:31.497 These these latest indictments, federal indictments are on procedure crimes, 0:02:31.537 --> 0:02:33.937 which is very similar to what happened to Mike Flynn. Right. 0:02:34.377 --> 0:02:37.257 They go after you politically and for political purposes, but 0:02:37.337 --> 0:02:40.417 in the course of the investigation. They can try to 0:02:40.417 --> 0:02:42.497 get you for some of the procedure crimes. In Flynn's 0:02:42.497 --> 0:02:45.697 case it was lying to the FBI, and in Donald 0:02:45.737 --> 0:02:48.137 Trump's case it is not responding or not turning over 0:02:48.217 --> 0:02:51.377 documents and response to requests. Okay, these are procedure crimes. 0:02:51.697 --> 0:02:53.977 But at the bottom line, the political bottom line of 0:02:54.017 --> 0:02:57.537 this is you might have two major party candidates running 0:02:57.617 --> 0:03:00.857 against each other in twenty twenty four, where if one wins, 0:03:00.857 --> 0:03:03.857 the other gets indicted and vice versa. That's that's not 0:03:03.937 --> 0:03:06.417 a good incentive for the peaceful transfer of power. That's 0:03:06.417 --> 0:03:09.417 exactly how you know authoritarian regimes start. It's why you 0:03:09.417 --> 0:03:12.057 know banana or publics are banana republics. They get caught 0:03:12.137 --> 0:03:15.897 in these cycles of persecution where it's either hang on 0:03:15.977 --> 0:03:17.257 to power or go to jail. 0:03:18.097 --> 0:03:18.337 Yeah. 0:03:18.457 --> 0:03:21.297 I think that part of this is that for a 0:03:21.337 --> 0:03:27.377 while there's been the standard that has been set is well, 0:03:27.497 --> 0:03:30.017 we're not gonna it's insuring because because I totally agree 0:03:30.017 --> 0:03:33.897 with the concept that this is problematic. You have the 0:03:33.937 --> 0:03:37.177 criminalization of politics at a very broad level happening here. 0:03:38.057 --> 0:03:40.097 And I know a lot of Donald Trump's critic would say, oh, 0:03:40.097 --> 0:03:41.577 but what about locker up Yeah, but he. 0:03:41.537 --> 0:03:44.457 Didn't, right. Uh, he didn't do that when he came 0:03:44.497 --> 0:03:45.057 into power. 0:03:45.257 --> 0:03:48.417 He didn't even appoint a special counsel to look into 0:03:48.457 --> 0:03:53.977 Hillary's Hillary's emails. Before that, though, you had the special 0:03:54.017 --> 0:03:56.657 counsel to try to arrest anybody in the Bush White 0:03:56.657 --> 0:04:00.097 House possible over the Valerie plane non crime. I mean, 0:04:00.097 --> 0:04:02.257 it actually was a non crime. I know a bit 0:04:02.257 --> 0:04:03.817 about this because I was in the CIA when the 0:04:03.857 --> 0:04:04.777 whole league happened. 0:04:05.537 --> 0:04:07.697 It was an accident. They knew it was an accident 0:04:07.777 --> 0:04:08.257 right away. 0:04:08.857 --> 0:04:10.777 Uh, And they decided to have a fit wishing expedition 0:04:10.817 --> 0:04:13.617 to go after again the Bush administration, to go after 0:04:14.577 --> 0:04:17.537 either the Vice President Cheney or Carl Rove, then the 0:04:17.577 --> 0:04:20.097 White House chief of staff, and then of course Bill 0:04:20.137 --> 0:04:21.777 Clinton lying under oath. 0:04:22.497 --> 0:04:26.057 What do we do about the It can't continue. 0:04:25.537 --> 0:04:28.057 To be This is the other argument you hear right, 0:04:28.497 --> 0:04:31.457 that if we don't enforce the law, because this time 0:04:31.497 --> 0:04:33.537 it would be too hard to enforce the law, we 0:04:33.577 --> 0:04:34.777 start to erase the law. 0:04:34.857 --> 0:04:36.577 Right because what people. 0:04:36.297 --> 0:04:39.137 Are saying right now is, well, you can't just keep 0:04:39.177 --> 0:04:42.977 pointing out that Hillary didn't get prosecuted, Bill didn't get prosecuted. 0:04:43.017 --> 0:04:44.897 I don't know, I guess they would say Republicans Trump 0:04:44.897 --> 0:04:49.177 didn'tet prosecuted last time as a defense against this going forward, 0:04:49.297 --> 0:04:50.577 do you see what I mean? Like, so, what do 0:04:50.617 --> 0:04:50.977 we do. 0:04:52.817 --> 0:04:55.617 Well? Two things, One of course, is that the ostensible 0:04:55.617 --> 0:04:58.497 adults in the room once again are proving themselves, you know, 0:04:58.617 --> 0:05:01.017 less self restrained than Donald Trump, who, as you say, 0:05:01.137 --> 0:05:03.057 did not lock her up and in fact came out 0:05:03.297 --> 0:05:05.537 and made a statement to the country about how that 0:05:05.577 --> 0:05:07.977 would be bad for the country. And so once again 0:05:08.017 --> 0:05:11.497 they're showing less self restraint a guy with a very 0:05:11.497 --> 0:05:14.217 twitchy Twitter finger, I guess truth finger these days, right, 0:05:14.297 --> 0:05:17.217 So it's kind of one of those backwards things where 0:05:17.217 --> 0:05:20.017 people are claiming to be the serious ones, the adult ones, 0:05:20.017 --> 0:05:22.377 the normal ones, in which they're actually breaking much more 0:05:22.417 --> 0:05:25.577 important norms than Donald Trump ever did. But in terms 0:05:25.577 --> 0:05:28.577 of this cycle, yeah, it's very very difficult to get 0:05:28.577 --> 0:05:30.617 out of this cycle. So I'd say two things. One, 0:05:31.097 --> 0:05:33.457 that's why we don't break this president two hundred and 0:05:33.457 --> 0:05:36.777 fifty years and we haven't prosecuted a former president or 0:05:36.817 --> 0:05:40.377 current presidential candidate other than perhaps Eugene Debs, who was 0:05:40.417 --> 0:05:43.097 never like actually going to be president, right, he was 0:05:43.137 --> 0:05:46.737 like a two percent guy. That the reason that norm 0:05:46.817 --> 0:05:49.417 was so important is exactly to avoid this kind of 0:05:49.497 --> 0:05:52.457 cycle once you start it. Look, one of the many 0:05:52.497 --> 0:05:55.057 reasons that Julius Caesar actually crossed the rubicon. I know 0:05:55.097 --> 0:05:57.537 it's a popular metaphor these days, but one of the 0:05:57.537 --> 0:06:00.137 many reasons Julius Caesar crossed the rubicon with his army 0:06:00.177 --> 0:06:02.177 is when he gave when he if he were to 0:06:02.217 --> 0:06:06.417 give up his position, right, his political position, when he 0:06:06.457 --> 0:06:09.177 was going to resign basically from his political position, he 0:06:09.297 --> 0:06:11.937 was open to prosecution, and he knew his enemies would 0:06:11.937 --> 0:06:15.137 come in and prosecute him. Right. So this this is 0:06:15.217 --> 0:06:19.097 again how dictatorships get started, how peaceful transitions of power die. 0:06:19.537 --> 0:06:21.577 And as far as you know, no one's above the law, 0:06:21.657 --> 0:06:24.697 which people also keep repeating, you know, in terms of 0:06:24.897 --> 0:06:28.497 norms for a republic, I find it much less scary that, 0:06:28.657 --> 0:06:31.697 you know, all five or six of our living former 0:06:31.817 --> 0:06:35.097 you know, presidents get away with some tickie tac bs, right, 0:06:35.217 --> 0:06:38.177 Like they have a few documents they shouldn't have in 0:06:38.257 --> 0:06:40.977 some I don't know, for example, in their in their 0:06:42.137 --> 0:06:46.817 their garages next to their corvettes. Right. I I far 0:06:46.937 --> 0:06:50.617 prefer that as a scenario than entering into this this 0:06:50.737 --> 0:06:54.137 cycle that brings down republics and and regimes. Right, So 0:06:55.217 --> 0:06:57.897 it's a matter of what's a more important norm, And 0:06:58.017 --> 0:07:01.537 for me, there's no contest. I'd rather not prosecute a 0:07:01.537 --> 0:07:04.697 handful of people for things that are anything less than 0:07:04.737 --> 0:07:08.097 shooting someone on Fifth Avenue than than enter into something 0:07:08.137 --> 0:07:08.857 that's so dangerous. 0:07:08.897 --> 0:07:10.857 I think that's a critical point. I often say this 0:07:10.937 --> 0:07:14.937 on the radio. If we were talking about a current 0:07:15.017 --> 0:07:20.577 presidential candidate who had gotten drunk and in vehicular manslaughter, 0:07:20.697 --> 0:07:22.697 you know, kill the family of four by t boning 0:07:22.697 --> 0:07:25.737 them in an intersection, the guy's got to go to prison, right, 0:07:25.737 --> 0:07:27.937 Like this is that there are levels which it doesn't 0:07:27.977 --> 0:07:31.657 make everybody would understand. You know, you can't murder people, 0:07:31.777 --> 0:07:34.017 you can't rape somebody, you can't do some a horrible, 0:07:34.057 --> 0:07:36.497 hateous crime and say, oh, I'm running for office. But 0:07:37.097 --> 0:07:40.697 a document dispute with the National Archives like that, that 0:07:40.737 --> 0:07:44.017 doesn't that's not going to cut it. I think that 0:07:44.697 --> 0:07:47.537 anybody who's being honest about what's best for the country 0:07:48.257 --> 0:07:50.217 is at least able to see the merit of that 0:07:50.377 --> 0:07:51.377 argument at some level. 0:07:52.737 --> 0:07:54.537 Yeah, I mean, I guess it's kind of the Omar 0:07:54.617 --> 0:07:56.977 little quote from the wire right. If you come at 0:07:56.977 --> 0:07:58.937 the King, you best not missed, you bet. If you 0:07:58.937 --> 0:08:02.257 are going to break that two hundred and fifty year norm, 0:08:02.657 --> 0:08:05.977 you better have irrefutable evidence and you better be completely 0:08:06.017 --> 0:08:09.137 above suspicion that this is a political prosecution. So you know, 0:08:09.177 --> 0:08:11.497 if you have tape of some body going the wrong 0:08:11.537 --> 0:08:13.697 way on the highway and smashing into you know, a 0:08:13.697 --> 0:08:16.257 family of four in your example, then of course you 0:08:16.257 --> 0:08:19.777 should prosecute. People aren't above the law. But it's so 0:08:19.897 --> 0:08:22.097 important to avoid even the appearance. And here we have 0:08:22.137 --> 0:08:24.777 a lot more than appearance. We have piece of evidence 0:08:24.817 --> 0:08:29.137 after evidence after evidence that this is a politically selective prosecution. 0:08:29.577 --> 0:08:32.577 The impression of that, giving half the country the impression, 0:08:33.097 --> 0:08:35.657 the correct impression in this case, that the justice system 0:08:35.737 --> 0:08:37.857 is two tiered based on whether you agree with the 0:08:37.857 --> 0:08:41.537 party in power or not, is so much more dangerous 0:08:41.577 --> 0:08:43.977 than any kind of little document dispute could ever be. 0:08:44.457 --> 0:08:46.777 And this is just I mean, like I said, this 0:08:46.817 --> 0:08:49.337 is sort of ticky tax stuff to bring down republics over. 0:08:50.217 --> 0:08:52.057 I'm going to ask you a question, but I want 0:08:52.097 --> 0:08:54.457 you to answer. 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You know, the 0:10:42.137 --> 0:10:44.977 president doesn't need to know everything about what's happening all 0:10:45.017 --> 0:10:46.617 over the world. What he needs to do is to 0:10:46.617 --> 0:10:48.937 be able to hire good advisors who he trusts to 0:10:48.937 --> 0:10:53.937 give him good advice and then use his judgment about situations. 0:10:53.937 --> 0:10:56.617 So I don't know that any particular thing is disqualifying. 0:10:56.657 --> 0:10:59.777 I will point out that even Rudy Giuliani was criticized 0:10:59.817 --> 0:11:02.217 for running for president, like the big hit against him 0:11:02.297 --> 0:11:04.057 was that he had only been mayor, and that was 0:11:04.137 --> 0:11:07.217 mayor of New York City, right, which is nine million 0:11:07.337 --> 0:11:11.137 people and larger than me than some states. 0:11:11.217 --> 0:11:15.057 Right, I think I think it's larger than almost most states, 0:11:15.097 --> 0:11:16.857 Is that right, I'll put that out there, a lot 0:11:16.897 --> 0:11:18.857 of states, Like definitely a lot bigger than a lot 0:11:18.897 --> 0:11:19.257 of states. 0:11:19.297 --> 0:11:22.537 Yeah, yeah. Like So the idea that you can run 0:11:22.577 --> 0:11:24.577 I mean, Miami is great, don't get me wrong. But 0:11:24.657 --> 0:11:27.177 the idea that you can run for president directly by 0:11:27.177 --> 0:11:29.737 being mayor of Miami as a stepping stone, I think 0:11:29.857 --> 0:11:32.697 is a little absurd. Of course, this is a political 0:11:32.737 --> 0:11:36.577 outsider era that we live in, but I think somebody 0:11:36.577 --> 0:11:39.417 with a resume entirely out of politics is a different 0:11:39.457 --> 0:11:41.897 thing than somebody who's still on in sort of the 0:11:42.377 --> 0:11:44.777 minor leagues and then deciding that he could step up 0:11:44.777 --> 0:11:46.777 and run for president seems a little ridiculous to. 0:11:46.777 --> 0:11:50.377 It is Is this just now a purely a branding 0:11:50.417 --> 0:11:53.177 exercise for a lot of people. It feels like we 0:11:53.217 --> 0:11:56.577 have Republican content or I should say presidential contest, but 0:11:56.577 --> 0:11:59.017 the Republican primaries the one all I will ask you 0:11:59.057 --> 0:12:01.537 about RFK in a second, because it feels like there's 0:12:01.537 --> 0:12:04.417 almost a shadow Democrat primary going on, which we'll get to. 0:12:05.137 --> 0:12:07.697 But on the Republican side of things, you got some 0:12:07.817 --> 0:12:10.497 people who seem to be running so that they can 0:12:10.817 --> 0:12:15.697 be a Trump cabinet appointee, which is weird, right, because 0:12:15.817 --> 0:12:17.857 shouldn't you be trying to take down the number one guy. 0:12:17.897 --> 0:12:20.217 They're all like, well, I would be good. Trump would 0:12:20.257 --> 0:12:23.097 be better as president, but I would be good. And 0:12:23.137 --> 0:12:24.937 then you've also got people who it seems like they're 0:12:24.937 --> 0:12:26.097 just trying to sell more books? 0:12:26.577 --> 0:12:29.097 Is it that symbol? Am I being too dismissive? 0:12:29.617 --> 0:12:32.457 Is this part of like the flowering of our democracy 0:12:32.537 --> 0:12:34.577 or whatever? Is that you get people with less than 0:12:34.577 --> 0:12:36.737 one percent who tell it everybody that want to be president? 0:12:36.737 --> 0:12:37.257 What do you think? 0:12:38.617 --> 0:12:41.577 Look, I don't think it's going to stop happening. You 0:12:41.577 --> 0:12:46.417 combine several ingredients, huge egos, a single billionaire backer, you're 0:12:46.417 --> 0:12:49.137 going to have a presidential run. Right, there's no downside 0:12:49.177 --> 0:12:51.177 to any of these people running. We're going to know 0:12:51.217 --> 0:12:53.537 their names better, we're going to know their faces better. Yes, 0:12:53.617 --> 0:12:57.337 maybe they can sell more books. Right, Look, it's some 0:12:58.057 --> 0:13:01.977 sort of outside shot. Presidential candidates I think are or 0:13:02.057 --> 0:13:05.177 rather runs are worth it. Right, if you really want 0:13:05.217 --> 0:13:08.337 to shine the spotlight on a particular issue, for example, 0:13:08.617 --> 0:13:10.817 if you want to be identified as single with a 0:13:10.897 --> 0:13:13.897 single issue and just launch that issue into the national stage. 0:13:14.097 --> 0:13:15.897 I think it's one way to do it, but it's 0:13:16.057 --> 0:13:18.337 bottom line, it's not going to stop. All the incentives 0:13:18.337 --> 0:13:20.177 are in one direction, all the you know that the 0:13:20.177 --> 0:13:22.857 consultants get get a ton of cash for you know, 0:13:23.297 --> 0:13:26.897 managing these these campaigns that have absolutely no shot at 0:13:26.937 --> 0:13:29.937 it whatsoever. So unfortunately, all the incentives are aligned that way, 0:13:29.937 --> 0:13:31.497 and I don't see it going away, these kinds of 0:13:31.537 --> 0:13:33.537 like vanity bids going away anytime soon. 0:13:35.017 --> 0:13:37.617 Who do you think if you had to pick somebody 0:13:37.857 --> 0:13:43.337 who has who is or will Or has That's what 0:13:43.337 --> 0:13:46.697 I'm trying to say, will Or has outperformed expectations on 0:13:46.737 --> 0:13:48.977 the Republican side, who would that be for you? 0:13:51.337 --> 0:13:52.937 That's a good question. I don't know. I feel like 0:13:52.977 --> 0:13:57.057 I had pretty low expectations for a lot of these people. 0:13:57.897 --> 0:13:59.737 Answer ever, she's like, she's like, I mean, I thought 0:13:59.777 --> 0:14:01.577 all of them were kind of gonna be, you know, 0:14:01.657 --> 0:14:03.097 not good. But go ahead. 0:14:03.977 --> 0:14:07.177 Well, so, you know, DeSantis, you can't say he's outperformed expectations. 0:14:07.177 --> 0:14:10.297 If anything, he's underperformed expectations because the expectation was was 0:14:10.337 --> 0:14:12.857 going to come in as a strong sort of number two, 0:14:12.897 --> 0:14:14.977 and what we have is him as definitely a strong 0:14:15.417 --> 0:14:15.817 a number. 0:14:15.857 --> 0:14:18.057 He's number two, but he's way way back. Yeah, he's 0:14:18.057 --> 0:14:18.537 way but. 0:14:18.697 --> 0:14:22.217 He's considered play far back. And then there is literally 0:14:22.217 --> 0:14:25.097 nothing Nikki Haley could do that would drop my estimation 0:14:25.177 --> 0:14:27.497 of her lower But. 0:14:27.817 --> 0:14:31.377 I guess, wait, can you expand on that, expand on 0:14:31.417 --> 0:14:34.857 that drill into this one? I like, I like inez 0:14:34.977 --> 0:14:37.777 letting it fly? Why are you auntie, Nikki Haley? 0:14:39.817 --> 0:14:42.017 God, there's so many reasons, but but I mean, just 0:14:42.057 --> 0:14:44.537 start with the way that she entered the race, playing 0:14:44.617 --> 0:14:48.017 on her sex and her skin color. You know, there 0:14:48.097 --> 0:14:50.817 is this part of the Republican Party that is just 0:14:50.857 --> 0:14:53.897 as thirsty for affirmative actions as the left. I find 0:14:53.897 --> 0:14:56.937 it really cringe and pathetic. You should not be, you know, 0:14:57.097 --> 0:15:00.857 running on your characteristics as a woman and as a 0:15:00.857 --> 0:15:03.417 person of color. I just find this like very like 0:15:03.497 --> 0:15:07.137 left winging cringey. And then she She's proved over and 0:15:07.137 --> 0:15:10.737 over again she doesn't understand the actual world. We're with 0:15:10.857 --> 0:15:13.577 her remarks about Disney, where she just said, oh, hey, 0:15:13.697 --> 0:15:16.097 you know, come on down to South Carolina, We'll take 0:15:16.137 --> 0:15:20.417 those jobs, like not even acknowledging the issue that corporate 0:15:20.417 --> 0:15:24.177 America has swung so far left in the cultural on 0:15:24.217 --> 0:15:27.057 the cultural issues, and then it's actually, you know, using 0:15:27.217 --> 0:15:30.617 their money and influence in state legislatures to try like 0:15:30.777 --> 0:15:34.737 to basically the will of the voters in those red states. 0:15:34.737 --> 0:15:38.337 I mean, it's definitely happening in South Dakota, right. And 0:15:38.457 --> 0:15:41.457 Nate Hoffman has written before he left for a campaign, 0:15:41.857 --> 0:15:44.657 wrote some really great pieces about how big business interests 0:15:44.657 --> 0:15:49.977 in South Dakota with Christy Nome have basically overrun the 0:15:50.537 --> 0:15:53.297 views of the voters in the states via special interest 0:15:53.297 --> 0:15:55.577 power behind the scenes, like none of us. She doesn't 0:15:55.617 --> 0:15:59.257 even give her opinion Nikki Haley that addresses that issue 0:15:59.257 --> 0:16:01.617 and says, no, well, I have a different view whatever 0:16:01.657 --> 0:16:04.497 about what should be done with Disney. She just sidesteps entirely, 0:16:04.537 --> 0:16:07.217 like it doesn't exist. And it's twenty twelve. And that's 0:16:07.257 --> 0:16:09.057 how I feel about a lot of these candidates. Mike 0:16:09.097 --> 0:16:11.537 Pence said something similar or the other the other day, 0:16:11.617 --> 0:16:13.537 just a couple of days ago, about you know, Disney 0:16:13.577 --> 0:16:15.777 and attacking a private company. I mean, I don't know 0:16:15.817 --> 0:16:18.697 where these people came from in their wormhole from twenty twelve, 0:16:18.737 --> 0:16:20.177 but that's what it feels like. It feels like the 0:16:20.217 --> 0:16:23.217 twenty twelve you know show for a lot of these 0:16:23.257 --> 0:16:27.577 candidates said frankly, even aside from them personally, it's really 0:16:28.457 --> 0:16:31.097 it's very disheartening to see so many people in the 0:16:31.097 --> 0:16:34.777 Republican parties still running a playbook as though the last 0:16:34.777 --> 0:16:38.377 five years didn't happen. 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Why is 0:18:06.497 --> 0:18:12.377 our FK Junior Inez getting not just a surprising surge 0:18:12.377 --> 0:18:15.377 of support from a lot of Democrats, but I know 0:18:15.417 --> 0:18:18.217 a lot of Republicans who are saying, I'd take him 0:18:18.217 --> 0:18:19.577 over Biden in a heartbeat. 0:18:19.657 --> 0:18:20.937 Maybe we should give him a look. 0:18:22.817 --> 0:18:25.777 Yeah, I mean, I think underlying that is the huge 0:18:26.017 --> 0:18:30.257 dissatisfaction with Biden as the Democratic nominee, even among Democrats. 0:18:30.857 --> 0:18:33.417 There's been some polls that show more than half of 0:18:33.497 --> 0:18:37.057 Democrats do not want Biden to run again, and a 0:18:37.057 --> 0:18:39.617 lot of that is connected to concerns about his age, 0:18:39.697 --> 0:18:42.817 like very valid concerns about his age. And then I 0:18:42.817 --> 0:18:47.057 guess correspondingly, dissatisfaction with Kamala is the default backup option, right, 0:18:47.177 --> 0:18:49.657 So I think a lot of that is where that 0:18:49.737 --> 0:18:52.417 energy is coming from. Of course, it's also true that 0:18:52.497 --> 0:18:54.977 RFK Junior has gotten a boost from the fact that 0:18:55.017 --> 0:18:58.097 so few people now trust the medical establishment for very 0:18:58.097 --> 0:19:01.097 good reason. He has a longer history. It's not just 0:19:01.177 --> 0:19:04.657 with the COVID vaccine that he's skeptical of, though it's 0:19:04.697 --> 0:19:06.817 you know, some measles vaccine. It's going all the way 0:19:06.857 --> 0:19:09.977 back to polio. I just remember him from my youthful 0:19:11.257 --> 0:19:13.497 in the Bay Area. He was big and Marin County 0:19:13.497 --> 0:19:17.137 among yuppie white liberals who didn't vaccinate their children. So 0:19:17.337 --> 0:19:19.937 he's been around for a while. But I think it 0:19:20.017 --> 0:19:23.137 reflects a dissatisfaction with Biden as the front runner. 0:19:23.297 --> 0:19:29.977 Do you think he's onto something with the general skepticism 0:19:30.017 --> 0:19:35.297 Maybe isn't the right word, but this question first approach 0:19:35.537 --> 0:19:39.577 to our current vaccination regime. Does he take it to 0:19:39.617 --> 0:19:42.497 see my problem is people say, well, Buck, you agree 0:19:42.537 --> 0:19:45.857 with him on COVID stuff, because I was, as you remember, 0:19:46.337 --> 0:19:50.057 anti all that COVID lunacy from the very beginning. So 0:19:50.097 --> 0:19:52.937 I'm like, yeah, we agree on COVID. Sure, when we 0:19:52.977 --> 0:19:55.697 talk about the other stuff though, all the other vaccines 0:19:55.697 --> 0:19:57.697 and what he talked about Joe Rogan talked to Joe 0:19:57.777 --> 0:20:00.937 Rogan about recently, is he onto something or is he 0:20:01.017 --> 0:20:01.777 kind of going out in. 0:20:01.777 --> 0:20:02.817 The left field. 0:20:04.137 --> 0:20:05.777 Well, here's what I say. I don't think he's onto 0:20:05.817 --> 0:20:09.097 anything with vaccines and autism, for example, I think there's 0:20:09.737 --> 0:20:15.337