Speaker 1: Check it in Man Now Down Man Thursday morning one.
Speaker 1: It is the Beating the Book podcast megapod live from
Speaker 1: the d Our Home. As always here on the show,
Speaker 1: It's Kill Alexander, Mikey Palm, Todd Wishnev Staples at the show.
Speaker 1: Mike Palm, Vice President of Operations and Circus Sports, Derek
Speaker 1: Stevens conciliary, and Todd Wish to have one of the
Speaker 1: co stars of course of Showtimes docuseries Action. Gentlemen, thank
Speaker 1: you as always for being here and our rotating guests
Speaker 1: for the day, my co host on the finest uh
Speaker 1: television program. There is you know outside of that Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning Eli Manning thing. Uh. It is a primetime action
Speaker 1: is my buddy Matt Brown? How you doing? Matt? Doing well?
Speaker 1: Doing well, feeling good? Coming off of a bounce back
Speaker 1: week in week three after week two is pretty rough,
Speaker 1: so hopefully keep the thing everything going here in week four,
Speaker 1: you had a monster week with teasers galore, as many
Speaker 1: folks did. But you you you you righted the ship.
Speaker 1: I believe we righted the ship on this show. Didn't
Speaker 1: we the board Todd or the records? Last week? Yes? Uh?
Speaker 1: To give you the records from last week. Everybody had
Speaker 1: a good week, even Gill. Even Gilly had this guy.
Speaker 1: Gilly goes to and one to move the three and six,
Speaker 1: trying to trying to pull things together. I will say this,
Speaker 1: Gilly is three and no on teasers, and that's what's
Speaker 1: most important, because what person in the right mind were
Speaker 1: better pregame NFL game. You gotta be you gotta be
Speaker 1: a crazy person to do that. So Gilly hits three
Speaker 1: and no with teasers. Mikey. Mikey goes two and one
Speaker 1: to move to five and four. By the way, I
Speaker 1: will say Gil and Mikey were both extremely fortunate to
Speaker 1: get the Arizona Cardinals minus seven and a half. After
Speaker 1: I'll explain it. I'll explain it to you ready with
Speaker 1: my explanation, Okay, At thirteen to ten, Mr urban Meyer
Speaker 1: handed the ball off a man named Robinson eight times
Speaker 1: in a row, and he literally jammed it down their
Speaker 1: throats to go up n late third quarters, you're down nine,
Speaker 1: laying seven and a half late third quarter in an
Speaker 1: NFL game. You're not supposed to come. Would you like
Speaker 1: to point this out time or should I todd? They
Speaker 1: were gifted a touchdown on that field goal nine yard
Speaker 1: field goal return from wait. I'll give you that great
Speaker 1: wait and then let me finish. Now, late in the game,
Speaker 1: there were two backdoor touchdown possibilities that did not happen.
Speaker 1: All I'll say is Mikey and Gilly are very fortunate people.
Speaker 1: Hashim doesn't hate. Now. I will now go on to
Speaker 1: the record of Mikey's teasers. He is two and one,
Speaker 1: not as good as me and Gil and I had
Speaker 1: another two and one to go to six and three
Speaker 1: with some really solid Browns and the New Orleans game
Speaker 1: under I only lost the fixed game Green Bay in
Speaker 1: San Francisco moved to six and three and two and
Speaker 1: oh on teasers to be in first place as all.
Speaker 1: As well with the world. I thought you're three and
Speaker 1: o on teasers. I am three. You know you're two
Speaker 1: and one. Me and Gill are three and on teasers.
Speaker 1: Mikey has two and one on teessers. You just said
Speaker 1: too and now, okay, so give me credit there. I'm sorry, Matt,
Speaker 1: Sorry you had to sit through all that. Apologies. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm I'd like to see where I'm where I'm stepping
Speaker 1: into here, alright, Circle Circle Million Circus Survivor updates sir,
Speaker 1: you know one entry is fifteen and oh and this
Speaker 1: is the final week of the first quarter. Wow, one
Speaker 1: singular entry. We've never we went back and looked, we've
Speaker 1: never had an entry go fifteen and over any plus
Speaker 1: hears of doing this this contest. So he I think
Speaker 1: he leads ten or eleven other people at fourteen and
Speaker 1: one and then in survivor not much carnage. This past
Speaker 1: week we went from to ninety seventeen. We lost six,
Speaker 1: five of who failed to submit a pick. Uh twenty
Speaker 1: eight giants. Todd Wishnev had the Ravens and it was
Speaker 1: awesome watching him text through that final sequence. By the way,
Speaker 1: I just want to say I was I was having
Speaker 1: flashbacks to last year when my good friend Gilly Iceman
Speaker 1: had the New York Jets against the Raiders. He needed
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I had the Raiders, right, he had the Raiders.
Speaker 1: The Raiders had one last play from the forty five
Speaker 1: yard line, absolutely no chance to win the game, absolutely
Speaker 1: no chance until the Jets decided to allow a very
Speaker 1: fast man behind the defense scored the touchdown and Gilly
Speaker 1: wag crazy. Now I hadn't even crazier scenario. I think
Speaker 1: it wasn't even crazier, I really do which was which
Speaker 1: was a lower wind probability? Your final play for the
Speaker 1: Hail Mary or whatever, or fourth and nineteen from the
Speaker 1: sixteen with thirty six seconds and no time outs. Well,
Speaker 1: the fourth and nineteen no timeouts missed the lay of
Speaker 1: game penalty sixty six yard field has never been done
Speaker 1: before the history of the league. That bounces off the
Speaker 1: crossbar and goes said, I think you probably win, Greg,
Speaker 1: will you have zero covered? Should never ever been done
Speaker 1: on the last play of the game either in the
Speaker 1: history of the NFL. By the way, Sammy, no one's
Speaker 1: talking about the fact that Sammy Watkins, who pought the
Speaker 1: fourth down ball instead of running out of bounds, tried
Speaker 1: to run up field and cost them about fifteen seconds
Speaker 1: and that's why they had It was just unbelievable that game,
Speaker 1: and Hollywood Brown dropped about four d touchdown passes. So anyways,
Speaker 1: if I end up winning Survivor, that will go down
Speaker 1: in the animals is one of the most unbelievable. It'll
Speaker 1: it'll go down in the anals as well. Anyone who
Speaker 1: had Baltimore, anyone who had Baltimore, who wins this thing,
Speaker 1: that will be the turning point. How many people I'm
Speaker 1: ten and five in um in millions, which picks me
Speaker 1: tied for uh e seven, like four five hundred place
Speaker 1: with the basically, I'm the tenth to the twenty second
Speaker 1: percentile right now in millions of ten and five? You
Speaker 1: were we interrupted you. I'm sorry? What else? Two didn't
Speaker 1: admit in millions? But then I was one of them? Really,
Speaker 1: I didn't submit it millions. My buddy kiss seems mother died,
Speaker 1: and then my girl came into town, and I completely forgot.
Speaker 1: I had nothing to play for anyway, so you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: but wait, don't you want to play for the for
Speaker 1: the season long? Yeah? Loser ship? No, I mean I was.
Speaker 1: I was. I would have gone three and two, so
Speaker 1: what gonna matter? It wasn't gonna matter either way. I'm
Speaker 1: just playing for quarterlies at this point. Survivor is the
Speaker 1: only thing I care about. I failed to put him
Speaker 1: the mill caring about other things. If you failed to
Speaker 1: put in your Survivor, you'd really be saying if I
Speaker 1: failed to put on my Survivor, shoot me. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: I was upset that I didn't put in Daniel Collins
Speaker 1: this morning. You should have been well, at least one
Speaker 1: set in you should have been. Okay, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: We start with the best bets. Oh no, first before
Speaker 1: we've been doing best bets Thursday night. Thought. It's another uh,
Speaker 1: non sexy matchup on a Thursday night, but very teasable
Speaker 1: and maybe survivorable, if you know what I mean. Matt
Speaker 1: will start with you. Any thoughts here, I think I
Speaker 1: already know years But for this audience, Cincinnati seven and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites at home against Jacksonville tonight, how
Speaker 1: are you playing this or how have you played it already? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I've got the baggles and some and some
Speaker 1: teasers here. I mean, I understand the defensive I understand
Speaker 1: the defensive injuries here. Just Jesse Bates is gonna be
Speaker 1: out for the Bengals. You also have te Higgins who's
Speaker 1: gonna be out from wide receiver standpoint. They played without
Speaker 1: him last week. Anyways, that's not going to be that
Speaker 1: crazy jo w a woose a. It's gonna be out
Speaker 1: as well for them. That said, they do get back
Speaker 1: Trey Waynes, so that's not that big of a loss
Speaker 1: for them in this whole thing. And you know, look,
Speaker 1: the when we're real look at this, it's just the
Speaker 1: mismatch here of defense versus offense, which I didn't think
Speaker 1: I would be saying whenever we looked at this game preseason.
Speaker 1: But the Cincinnati defense has been for real so far.
Speaker 1: I mean, you take a look, and every single one
Speaker 1: of the advanced statistics agree. There the fourth overall defense
Speaker 1: d b o A, the the ninth overall defense according
Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus. You look at their PA per
Speaker 1: play allowed, their sixth in the NFL, there their third,
Speaker 1: and success rate allowed against, And I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: really really has come together here with a team that
Speaker 1: has invested a ton in the defense, not only through
Speaker 1: the draft but in free agency as well. They're allowing
Speaker 1: just seventy eight yards per per per game running right
Speaker 1: now two point eight adjusted line yards at both our
Speaker 1: top five figures in the NFL. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: been a complete, a complete one eighty from the for
Speaker 1: this defense from what we saw last year for this
Speaker 1: b Beagles team. And of course we know just how
Speaker 1: bad the Jags offense has been. Trevor Lawrence is a
Speaker 1: load lowest graded passer in the NFL out of every
Speaker 1: single quarterback that has taken at least of their snaps,
Speaker 1: which means he's lower than justin fields and lower than
Speaker 1: Davis Mills. He leads the league in turnover worthy plays,
Speaker 1: he leads a league in interceptions as we know as well.
Speaker 1: And I don't see them turning this around on a
Speaker 1: short week going up against his Beagles team. So if
Speaker 1: they only have to win this by a in or
Speaker 1: a point and a half or even two, if this
Speaker 1: thing happens to get to eight before kickoff before you
Speaker 1: listen to this and you take it down below the
Speaker 1: below the three, I still think it is a very very,
Speaker 1: very good bet. Um. I cannot see the Bengals losing
Speaker 1: this game outside of a course which we always have
Speaker 1: to say, some sort of catastrophic injury situation. But this
Speaker 1: defense versus this offense is a big time mismatch. Say
Speaker 1: that any concern, go ahead, go ahead. I was gonna say, Matt,
Speaker 1: any concern with the fact that the Bengals did show
Speaker 1: up well on defense against Minnesota, but then the next
Speaker 1: two teams they played, Bears and Steelers, are not exactly
Speaker 1: offensive barn Burners. Well, you know, one of the things
Speaker 1: that these advanced statistics are meant to do is try
Speaker 1: to strip out, you know, a lot of the noise
Speaker 1: around that and strictly get into what they're what they're
Speaker 1: doing on the field, regardless of opponent. And so I'm
Speaker 1: actually not really all that worried about. I mean, everything
Speaker 1: seems to point to this being for real. And again,
Speaker 1: I mean, Trey Hendrickson is a guy that they went
Speaker 1: out and spend a lot of money in free agency on.
Speaker 1: He's our got fifteen quarterback pressures on the season as well,
Speaker 1: so he's paying dividends early for this team. So and
Speaker 1: it's not just one way or the other. They've been
Speaker 1: good against the past and good against the run, which
Speaker 1: typically if there's some sort of smoking mirrors, there's like
Speaker 1: a way to attack a defense. But they've been eight
Speaker 1: against the past, second against the run so far throughout
Speaker 1: the short season. So even if they regress a little bit,
Speaker 1: even if it is a little bit not real, that
Speaker 1: still puts them kind of in the top ten in
Speaker 1: every single aspect of the defensive of the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the ball. So against this Jags defense, I don't
Speaker 1: see it really rearing its ugly head here at all.
Speaker 1: I like it as a teaser leg makes makes all
Speaker 1: the sense of the world to me. Should I play it?
Speaker 1: In Survivors? The question, well, I think it comes down
Speaker 1: to do you have multiple entries? And if you have
Speaker 1: multiple entries, I think you use one or two of
Speaker 1: them on Cincinnati. But I think if you have one entry,
Speaker 1: it's tough to stomach. If you go down with Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: The problem is there's really three obvious choices this week,
Speaker 1: Saints finishing, let him, let me finish. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, America. They're part of that three game window
Speaker 1: right that the Bills actually the Bills in Saints game
Speaker 1: right to save. So I would worry though about using them.
Speaker 1: I mean, Matt pointed out the injuries. Jacksonville is actually
Speaker 1: healthier than Cincinnati going into this matchup. Cincinnati is not
Speaker 1: used to the role of being a favorite expected to
Speaker 1: win the game. And then this is probably the only
Speaker 1: matchup all year where urban Meyer won't be totally outclassed
Speaker 1: by the other sideline. I mean, David Culley made him
Speaker 1: look like Brett b Leman week one. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen tonight. Um, I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: I I sort of said before the season, like I
Speaker 1: don't believe in in gritting out the entire season. I
Speaker 1: want to I just want to survive the first five
Speaker 1: or six weeks, and then I'll start to map it
Speaker 1: out when I have better feeling on these teams and
Speaker 1: when I can sort of game theory it from there.
Speaker 1: So this might be one of the last weeks where
Speaker 1: I think, if you have one entry left, I think
Speaker 1: you do play Cincinnati because you'll never play him again,
Speaker 1: and I know it's gonna be I think the majority
Speaker 1: of people are gonna end up on Cincinnati. That's my hunch.
Speaker 1: Not the majority, but make the highest percentage. Let's say, Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think this is the
Speaker 1: week where you just sort of swallow hard and take
Speaker 1: you I could regret that wildly. How about you, Todd?
Speaker 1: Are you using the Bengals and survivor Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm a little conflicted. Matt's making me feel better.
Speaker 1: But the Monday Night Football, you know you can do
Speaker 1: these in game parlays. Um on Monday Night Football, when
Speaker 1: I realized very quickly that the Cowboys were gonna crush
Speaker 1: the Eagles, I took the Cowboys parlayed to the Bengals
Speaker 1: money lines um and because I just thought there's no
Speaker 1: way the Bengals are gonna lose on Thursday night, and
Speaker 1: of course the Cowboys crushed. And then I've been thinking
Speaker 1: about this all week. Do I want to take the Bengals,
Speaker 1: which is the only time I'm probably gonna be able
Speaker 1: to take the Bengals, Or do I want to take
Speaker 1: the Bills or and now the obviously have the Bills
Speaker 1: problem with the Thanksgiving San Francisco, I mean the Christmas
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving thing, I was thinking, what about Tennessee. Now Tennessee
Speaker 1: is also one of the Christmas games, but they're at
Speaker 1: What's the game that I was just looking at it?
Speaker 1: They are at somebody tough you're talking about there at
Speaker 1: San Francisco. No, they're at home against San Francisco and
Speaker 1: the Christmas Christmas. So the question is, would I ever
Speaker 1: would I would I have the W I risk taking
Speaker 1: Tennessee on Christmas at home against San Francisco If I wouldn't,
Speaker 1: maybe I take Tennessee at the Jets because I don't
Speaker 1: think the Jets can win. I don't know, what do
Speaker 1: you guys? I want to make this point. Remember this
Speaker 1: Tennessee game where they're hosting. The forty nine is the
Speaker 1: Thursday before Christmas. But it's part of the window. What
Speaker 1: that's part of I thought it was only the two
Speaker 1: games on Christmas. No, there's two three game windows. The
Speaker 1: three games on Thanksgiving and then the Thursday night and
Speaker 1: two games on Christmas are the other three game window.
Speaker 1: And the window is Thanksgiving Bears, Lions, Raiders, Cowboys, Bill Saints.
Speaker 1: That's Thanksgiving window. Then the Christmas window is San Frana, Tennessee, Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and Green Bay or Indie at Arizona, which is kind
Speaker 1: of shaping up that you want to save Arizona because
Speaker 1: Indie looks like they're so bad that maybe Arizona is
Speaker 1: the play on that Christmas. And then maybe you don't
Speaker 1: worry about not having the other four teams and maybe
Speaker 1: you do use them. So that's another like question. Maybe
Speaker 1: you take green Bay at home against the Steelers if
Speaker 1: you're not worried about that last thing. The one million
Speaker 1: for those who care about the extra one million, you
Speaker 1: have to have both Kansas City and and uh Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay are just one of them, one of those two
Speaker 1: on the final weekning. Okay, alright, let's do best bets.
Speaker 1: That's The only thing I would caution about the Titans
Speaker 1: this week, guys, I mean, they could be without a
Speaker 1: j Brown and Julio Jones and so now you're going
Speaker 1: to be trying to get it done with Chester Rogers
Speaker 1: and Josh Reynolds and Racy McMath and stuff. And I
Speaker 1: understand they can turn around handed off to Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: thirty times in the game, but the one thing the
Speaker 1: Jets kind of do well is defend the run. So
Speaker 1: there's just at least a little bit of caution there
Speaker 1: with Tennessee's a it's a fine point. What's your what's
Speaker 1: the favorite moment? Your favorite moment in Chester Rogers career?
Speaker 1: Todd Well, it's more I'm more of a Racy mcminimum guy.
Speaker 1: All Right, let's start with the best bets, three either
Speaker 1: sides of totals. Matt, you're the guest. We start with you, sir. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty on board here with this Ravens team
Speaker 1: not only taking the point and a half or point
Speaker 1: I guess is down to a point at this point,
Speaker 1: but also using them in teasers this week. I mean,
Speaker 1: our last memory of them is having to kick a
Speaker 1: sixty six yard field goal to beat a team that
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a little bit better than
Speaker 1: people have a perception of. But the Lions, who are
Speaker 1: certainly still going to be one of the bottom six
Speaker 1: or seven teams in the NFL, if not in the
Speaker 1: bottom five. And what you do is you you really
Speaker 1: have to dig in a little bit further into all this.
Speaker 1: Todd mentioned a little bit earlier, but you had Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown drop two touchdowns for sure, maybe a third, maybe
Speaker 1: even a third depending on people of beating the guy
Speaker 1: or not. This the perception this team would be completely
Speaker 1: different if that would have been the case. Then the
Speaker 1: other thing, they get Brandon Williams, Justin Houston, and Justin
Speaker 1: Mta Bouquet back. All three of those guys had to
Speaker 1: miss last week because of COVID. They're off the COVID
Speaker 1: list this week as well. Two of those guys are starters.
Speaker 1: The other guy plays over the snaps for them on defense.
Speaker 1: So now you have three guys injected back into this defense.
Speaker 1: Last week was the first week Jimmy Smith came back
Speaker 1: off of BYR as well. He only played like nineteen
Speaker 1: or twenty snaps. He's going to be a week healthier.
Speaker 1: He's going to play more snaps for this Ravens team
Speaker 1: as well. And then oh yeah, they get Rashad Bateman
Speaker 1: and Miles Boykin off of IR as well in a
Speaker 1: thin receivers in a very thin receiving corps with one
Speaker 1: guy that's your supposed number one that can't catch touchdown passes.
Speaker 1: Now you get these guys added into the mix as well.
Speaker 1: On the Broncos side, it got worse. Actually, you're already
Speaker 1: without Jerry Judy. Now you're without kJ Hamdler, Bradley Chubbs
Speaker 1: already again missed six to eight weeks. Both of their
Speaker 1: starting guards are banged up in this scenario, areo. I
Speaker 1: think this is a really really good bounce back situation
Speaker 1: where this Ravens team would be favored in this game
Speaker 1: if it was if the game had played out a
Speaker 1: little bit differently last week that they were really hamstrung.
Speaker 1: Given the situations here, they're still fourth overall rushing defense,
Speaker 1: I mean rushing offense d v o A. In the NFL,
Speaker 1: they're going to sit there, rush per attempt there first
Speaker 1: in the league. They're gonna run this ball, and run
Speaker 1: this ball, and run this ball. And then when you
Speaker 1: think that they lo you to sleep he'll be able
Speaker 1: to hit something through the past game as well. You
Speaker 1: can only play the opponents that are in front of you.
Speaker 1: I fully understand that all credit due to the Broncos
Speaker 1: and what they've been able to do. Teddy Bridgewater has
Speaker 1: played out of his mind. He's second adjusted completion percentage
Speaker 1: on the season. He's and and he's actually changed the
Speaker 1: way he plays football. He's eighth and average depth of
Speaker 1: target we used to think of him is just checking
Speaker 1: down Charlie who never wanted to take any chances, and
Speaker 1: instead he's thrown four passes of twenty or moore yards
Speaker 1: down the field. Other except for two other guys, he's
Speaker 1: third in the league in twenty or more yards passes
Speaker 1: down the field. So all credit due to the Broncos
Speaker 1: and what they've been able to do, But their opponents
Speaker 1: are oh and nine. Two of the starting quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: he's faced or rookies, and Lawrence and Wilson, who are
Speaker 1: two of the worst quarterbacks we've seen in this season
Speaker 1: so far. The other you know, it's just I think
Speaker 1: that this is a really, really good spot for this
Speaker 1: Ravens team to get right. And again I think that
Speaker 1: the wrong team is favored in this game. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump in here because on guessing lines last week.
Speaker 1: I've said this many times before, my first reactions and
Speaker 1: guessing lines are often the best reactions that I have
Speaker 1: just me personally, and I should not I should not
Speaker 1: dissuade later in the week from that first reaction. Last week,
Speaker 1: it was Arizona. I thought it was too low against Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: despite what Todd's bullshit was earlier, that got home should
Speaker 1: have gotten home easier. And uh, also the fact that
Speaker 1: the Chargers were six and a half point dogs against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, that I had a lot of turnover benefit there,
Speaker 1: But that got home is an outright winner. This week
Speaker 1: for me, on guessing lines, it was Baltimore. And I'll
Speaker 1: get to the next one later, but Baltimore, even before
Speaker 1: Matt said it better than I could have been, or
Speaker 1: just that whole dissertation on it, that line seems off
Speaker 1: to me. Baltimore should be the favorite. And I am
Speaker 1: all about the Ravens and and and I'm I've been
Speaker 1: sort of barrish about Denver the whole time anyway, And
Speaker 1: yes they have beaten who's in front of them, But
Speaker 1: that adjustment, that draft Kings made from eight and a
Speaker 1: half wins to ten and a half after they beat
Speaker 1: the Giants, a team they were supposed to beat a
Speaker 1: week one, and they adjusted it two games. It's still
Speaker 1: there now. They baked in apparently the next two weeks worth.
Speaker 1: I think it's still an under on ten and a half,
Speaker 1: and I think that the losses start this week. Mikey,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo was the other game. You were off on
Speaker 1: the guessing lines, right, No, I thought you said you
Speaker 1: would make it fourteen. That was one. But that's not
Speaker 1: what I'm talking. It's not like I'm racing the bet.
Speaker 1: The that Chrissie said he had made it twine and
Speaker 1: a half and it it drifted a little towards Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: I like the Cleveland Browns minus two at Minnesota. Uh Look,
Speaker 1: Seattle was favored by two at Minnesota last week. You
Speaker 1: mean to tell me that Cleveland and Seattle or pick
Speaker 1: him on a neutral field. I don't think so. The
Speaker 1: Seattle defense is terrible. The Browns are much better. They'll
Speaker 1: be able to put pressure on Kirk Cousins. And I
Speaker 1: love the fact that this team can run the football
Speaker 1: when they want to run the football. Baker doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be great to win games because I think between
Speaker 1: Baltimore and Cleveland, the two most dominant rushing attacks in
Speaker 1: the NFL, I thought I would have made this game three,
Speaker 1: maybe even three and a half to get it under
Speaker 1: a field goal. I think it's a bargain. That's my
Speaker 1: number one pick, all right, Cleveland Browns. I wonder if
Speaker 1: Matt has that one coming up to I happen to
Speaker 1: know what he likes during Primetime Action, Todd, what's yours?
Speaker 1: I think you guys are I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to take Broncos because because of you know, how great
Speaker 1: they've looked and how bad the Ravens look last week.
Speaker 1: So I'll definitely stay away from it. I just you guys,
Speaker 1: everybody just thinks Teddy two gloves is not the ship,
Speaker 1: and he is. He is that John Fox quarterback does
Speaker 1: not make mistakes. He's a different quarterback this year. I know,
Speaker 1: I just, I just I'm I'm surprised that you guys
Speaker 1: are willing to trust Lamar Jackson on the road in
Speaker 1: that altitude, so whatever. I mean. Yeah, and elevation, it's
Speaker 1: elevation and altitude, which is very difficult to deal with.
Speaker 1: Both of those at the same time. And uh and now, okay, look,
Speaker 1: whatever it is it is, you guys are making me
Speaker 1: more nervous about I'm not gonna take them for anyways,
Speaker 1: but it's just I think it's interesting that you're both
Speaker 1: taking read I'm taking in my first pick one of
Speaker 1: my favorite coaches in the National Football League, and that
Speaker 1: is Brian Flores of the Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins, you
Speaker 1: can't hold them down. When they are getting four. They're
Speaker 1: gonna cover that spread for you somehow. I don't know
Speaker 1: how they did it, but they got us home plus
Speaker 1: four and a half or four whatever it was last week.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Miami Dolphins minus the what do you
Speaker 1: guys have? Minus one and a half? What had happened
Speaker 1: to depending on where you get, I'll take the one
Speaker 1: and a half Miami minus. Well, Matt, it's two and
Speaker 1: a half at circus two and a half right here
Speaker 1: behind us. It's just as prevalent one and a half
Speaker 1: as two. Yeah, it is, And there's two and a half. Okay, Mike,
Speaker 1: type down, think, um my Miami Dolphins. And here's why. Okay,
Speaker 1: if Miami's at home and they're even teams, they should
Speaker 1: be minus three. Isn't that correct? I believe that the NFL,
Speaker 1: you get three points for the home field, Todd, I
Speaker 1: want to stop you. I want to stop you, because
Speaker 1: it's not the case at all. There's very few teams
Speaker 1: that get the full three. Great. I agree that now
Speaker 1: they've done the studies and they've showed that the home
Speaker 1: field is not really worth the three. It's really worth
Speaker 1: point seven five or whatever the hell. The bottom line is,
Speaker 1: they're saying the Dolphins and the Colts are very similar
Speaker 1: teams here, That's what they're saying. The Colts stink, my friends,
Speaker 1: the Colts stink. Okay. The quarterback they have has no ankles,
Speaker 1: and even if he did have both ankles, he stinks. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this nonsense. I used to love Frank Reich.
Speaker 1: I don't like what he's doing. That was a game
Speaker 1: they should have covered easily. Thank God they didn't, because
Speaker 1: I had a Tennessee in millions. They should have covered
Speaker 1: that game easily last week. They couldn't do it. I
Speaker 1: am totally not enamored with the Indianapolis called. Now. Granted,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are not good on offense. Granted, I'll give
Speaker 1: you all that, but they are good on defense, and
Speaker 1: they have a very good coach, and now you're only
Speaker 1: asking him just to win the damn game. Basically, give
Speaker 1: me the freaking Dolphins. The Dolphins are better than the Colts, period.
Speaker 1: So I'm taking the Dolphins. Is my number one pick
Speaker 1: with my song, and that's that's all I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: about it. So I don't care what you guys think. Pod.
Speaker 1: You know you mentioned Gail and I are lucky that
Speaker 1: we covered with the Cardinals. How about you with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: I just said in my song, Mikey, in my song,
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know how we covered. We didn't
Speaker 1: deserve it at all. That was the most fortunate cover
Speaker 1: of all time. You didn't start with the ship and lucky, Mike.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I didn't start the show. The
Speaker 1: only per who had the Dolphins was West Reynolds, not me.
Speaker 1: How did West do but to win one and one
Speaker 1: of the teaser We all did the same, everybody. If
Speaker 1: I was going to review West, I would say he
Speaker 1: was very fortunate with Dianny you want your Browns, and
Speaker 1: he lost the Jets. I only say the fortunate stuff
Speaker 1: when it's important Matteo number two. Sir, Yeah, I am uh.
Speaker 1: I'm with Mikey. I really like the Browns this week
Speaker 1: against the against the Vikings. I've I have this one
Speaker 1: and a half in the account. I'm fine, but the
Speaker 1: two as well, it doesn't really matter to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: what we're getting here is a completely different animal coming
Speaker 1: in in this Browns defense than anything that Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: has seen so far. And look, Kirk Cousins has been phenomenal.
Speaker 1: He has been way better than any version of Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins that we've seen in the past. But you are
Speaker 1: now getting a defensive line coming in here is going
Speaker 1: to create all kinds of havoc on this guy. And
Speaker 1: this offensive line that he has in front of him
Speaker 1: is not that good. It just hasn't been exposed yet. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what the Browns are really really good at, and
Speaker 1: that's the way they built this team is to come
Speaker 1: in and disrupt these passers and control the game on
Speaker 1: the ground. Like Mike said, I mean, that's the one
Speaker 1: of the first things in this Brown's bet is never
Speaker 1: gonna do for you, is you're never gonna feel completely
Speaker 1: comfortable with it, because they're not that team that's gonna
Speaker 1: go out and start throwing the ball all over the
Speaker 1: yard and get up, you know, twenty seven points or
Speaker 1: something like that to where you just cruise to victory.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to understand when you got that Brown's
Speaker 1: ticket that you're probably gonna be sweating it until the
Speaker 1: end pretty much every single time, because that's just how
Speaker 1: this offense is built. There one of the few run
Speaker 1: first offense is still in the NFL, but they're really
Speaker 1: really good at it. They built an offensive line that
Speaker 1: makes them dominant in the run game. They are the
Speaker 1: number one run block win win rate and number one
Speaker 1: pass block win rate lead team in the NFL. They
Speaker 1: are early down success second overall in the NFL. Right now,
Speaker 1: they are really getting it done with what they've built
Speaker 1: this team to do. And I think Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 1: going to really start to feel that pressure. And one
Speaker 1: of the things we've seen with Kirk Cousins, you give
Speaker 1: McClean pocket, he will pick you apart. He has done
Speaker 1: it so far this season. He has been phenomenal. But
Speaker 1: you put pressure in kirk Cousin's face and he starts
Speaker 1: making bad decisions. He starts throwing the ball up, he
Speaker 1: starts getting strip sacks, and he starts throwing interceptions. And
Speaker 1: that is what's gonna happen when Miles Garrett and company
Speaker 1: come into the Dome this weekend and I short of
Speaker 1: a field goal. I think is is really really a
Speaker 1: bargain on this Browns team. I have them much much
Speaker 1: higher power rated than the Vikings in my power personal
Speaker 1: power rankings here, so I love the Browns this week.
Speaker 1: Who do you have one to three, four and five
Speaker 1: in yours in your power rankings? Man? Uh, Rams, Bucks cheeps,
Speaker 1: and I think currently have the Browns at four. I
Speaker 1: have I have to do this for our show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Odds on every Thursday, I have Brown's number one, Browns, Rams, Bucks,
Speaker 1: Bill's cheers. Yeah, I have the bills. Have the bills
Speaker 1: above the Browns. That's right, Browns or five? Yeah? Are
Speaker 1: Mikey number two? The Detroit Lions? Wow? That was the
Speaker 1: that was the one. I'm guessing Lines, you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna both get burned before you guys make these official picks.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, Line, there's an injury we
Speaker 1: don't know about. What are you talking about, Todd? If
Speaker 1: we cured cancer, you'd be like Oh, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: cured that. If I were you, Oh, I would say,
Speaker 1: either you were fortunate to cure cancer. That's fortunate cancer.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're fortunate to cure cancer. I think you know
Speaker 1: Matt mentioned earlier the lines are better than people believe
Speaker 1: they are. They really are, and they're building the teams
Speaker 1: for the draft. This is a good offensive line. This
Speaker 1: is a good offensive line. They've moved the ball now.
Speaker 1: The only thing that stopped them in the first half
Speaker 1: in Green Bay was some mysterious holding call. They scored
Speaker 1: every time they went up. Now when the rains came,
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, Golf was the wicked wick
Speaker 1: at which of the West, and he melted a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I don't like this Bears team. I watched that
Speaker 1: whole game with Cleveland. I mean, they're criminally inept on offense,
Speaker 1: criminally enough. Maybe the problem is nagging. Maybe the problem
Speaker 1: wasn't your bisky. Maybe the I mean so not to
Speaker 1: not to step on yours, but just to get in
Speaker 1: one of because I won't dum duplicate. Could it be?
Speaker 1: And this is part of the handicapper me as well,
Speaker 1: that Dan Campbell is the better coach here over Matt Naggie,
Speaker 1: who who won't? Do you think Anthony Lynne is a
Speaker 1: better coach? Anthony lends a better coordinator. He failed managing
Speaker 1: games because he didn't understand concept. He'd get these leads
Speaker 1: and he'd do these crazy things when he just has
Speaker 1: to be a play caller. He's much better betting truth
Speaker 1: serum As Detroit backers, would we rather see Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: or Justin Fields? No, I would rather see Justin Fields.
Speaker 1: He's lost, He's totally lost. But why can't they get
Speaker 1: him some easy completions? He's six of twenty in a
Speaker 1: league where everybody So that's the part, right, that's the
Speaker 1: that's the Baggie part. How is it that you can
Speaker 1: just leave him back there? He gets sacked nine times
Speaker 1: and you can't They got one net passing yard one?
Speaker 1: How can you not figure out, if you're such an
Speaker 1: offensive genius, give him something of confidence. I don't understand
Speaker 1: how he couldn't coach his way out but a bootleg
Speaker 1: to the tiet. They were doing this in preseason. They
Speaker 1: were rolling him out and all this, and he was
Speaker 1: moving the ball. I know it's preseason, but now they're
Speaker 1: just gonna let him sit there in the pocket and
Speaker 1: get crushed. Todd, Why do you think we should be worried?
Speaker 1: I just think you should be. I mean, I agree
Speaker 1: with everything you guys are saying, and I think the
Speaker 1: Bears stink um. The thing is, the Bears did handle
Speaker 1: the Bengals at home defensively, so they didn't allow the Bengals.
Speaker 1: The way they won that game was they got a
Speaker 1: bunch of interceptions and they didn't do anything on offense.
Speaker 1: So I agree with you on that, and I just
Speaker 1: would stay away from the game, especially because the Bears
Speaker 1: got what really bad last week and the Lions had
Speaker 1: this almost win. So everyone's gonna be like, Wow, the
Speaker 1: Lions could do it. Now you're asking him to do
Speaker 1: it on the road. I don't know. That just sounds
Speaker 1: a little scary. The Bears defense was good. I'm going
Speaker 1: with my guessing lines first instincts that those over me. Well,
Speaker 1: so I'm putting you. I'm putting you guys. You guys
Speaker 1: are both down for Lions plus two and a half.
Speaker 1: We plus three, Todd, We're gonna take three. We're not
Speaker 1: waiting no second. If you get two in Miami one
Speaker 1: and a half, it's two and a half. What's the consensus.
Speaker 1: It is there. There are a lot of three, a
Speaker 1: lot of that's the only way you're winning this Todd
Speaker 1: skating all the lines from your favor and again the
Speaker 1: only one exactly what you're doing. Finally someone else sees this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you, guys the three. Matt Brown is
Speaker 1: going to come to your rescue. That's okay, my second pick.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, you guys are done at packing me
Speaker 1: and fairly um okay, I would like to take the
Speaker 1: Panther's Cowboys game under two that he knew it. And
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I've been watching the the I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys watched these. After I watch all
Speaker 1: the games and the boxes, you know, the eight box
Speaker 1: on Sunday, A lot of times I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I have full coverage of every game. So what I
Speaker 1: like to do is I like to watch those shortcuts
Speaker 1: on the on the direct TV where you can watch
Speaker 1: the whole game in like twenty nine minutes and just
Speaker 1: goes play play play. It's really interesting because you get
Speaker 1: to see like certain teams, for instance, New England can't
Speaker 1: get any space at all when the wide receivers are
Speaker 1: out Pittsburgh no space at all for the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: They might complete the twenty yard pass, but it's like
Speaker 1: a miracle that they get it. And then there's the
Speaker 1: other teams like Arizona Cardinals. Guys are just wide open.
Speaker 1: I mean they just to them. There's nobody within a
Speaker 1: mile of it. So I really like to to watch
Speaker 1: that to get a real feel for the things that
Speaker 1: I missed. And I missed the entire um, the entire
Speaker 1: Saints New Orleans game, but it did give me an
Speaker 1: insight on the Saints. The Saints aren't that good on offense,
Speaker 1: they're good on defense. But anyways, the Panthers played the
Speaker 1: Saints and played very well on defense. I think the
Speaker 1: Panthers are a defensive football team, and I think Matt
Speaker 1: Rule knows that he doesn't want Donald to do anything
Speaker 1: too crazy. He just has to keep him game managing.
Speaker 1: He needs to run the ball. He needs to play
Speaker 1: good defense, which they've played all season long. They've played
Speaker 1: very good defense. I don't know what their d v
Speaker 1: o a is, but I'm sure it's in the top
Speaker 1: ten Carolina defensively, I think they've played very good on defense.
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna watch the Cowboys from Monday Night and say
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are an unstoppable offense and they're gonna score
Speaker 1: a million points. Now, granted, the Cowboys look fantastic on offense,
Speaker 1: but they're also gonna run the football a lot, and
Speaker 1: to get to fifty two in an NFL game, you
Speaker 1: need both. Somebody wants to throw the football a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I think this is gonna be a running game,
Speaker 1: a lot of ground stuff. I think rules gonna try
Speaker 1: to slow the game down, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: I want under fifty two, especially after we just saw
Speaker 1: a huge scoring game for Dallas. I think this game
Speaker 1: is gonna slow down and I want there. It is
Speaker 1: an official podcast. Todd's a thing. Just plus Todd, you
Speaker 1: get the big advantage of Mike McCarthy doesn't like to
Speaker 1: score in the last two minutes. That's important. Can we
Speaker 1: can we talk about that for a second, because because
Speaker 1: so we're doing Matt and I are doing Primetime Action
Speaker 1: with our buddy Kelly Bidlin. We do it every night
Speaker 1: on MSG plus seven pm. Easter. Please tune in. We
Speaker 1: have a blast. Uh. So we're not we're multitasking, We're
Speaker 1: not like completely immersed in the football game like we
Speaker 1: otherwise would be if we're just at home watching that said, um,
Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy think was interesting because Peyton Manning was
Speaker 1: going crazy. Um our own Michael Lombardi going nuts about it.
Speaker 1: Moss okay, bingo square for Mike, there's a certain there's
Speaker 1: a certain Nuts listener who keeps tracking every time I
Speaker 1: mentioned you on Nut the Nuts. And I had an
Speaker 1: eleven show streak of every time you reference the numbers
Speaker 1: game or Gill I do I do because I listen
Speaker 1: every morning. Use clock block this morning and proper credit.
Speaker 1: So the point of theout Mike McCarthy is when he
Speaker 1: had to ran a whole segment called no hyper Bowl grievances. Say,
Speaker 1: we're going to call it grievances. Guy never credited me,
Speaker 1: ran some credit. You don't even get me, don't even
Speaker 1: get me started. Okay, back to Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: So when he had the two timeouts left, I think
Speaker 1: you guys are right right. If he uses the first
Speaker 1: one in a minute thirty, yes he should stop the
Speaker 1: clock there. That's fine. But the whole thing about when
Speaker 1: he had one time outlet and there were fifty seconds
Speaker 1: off and everybody's killing Mike McCarthy for that. I just
Speaker 1: don't get the outrage. Let me ask you this. Don't
Speaker 1: you think that, sorry, uh, the coach for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: he has to punt. We don't know that, we don't know.
Speaker 1: I believe that there's a much greater chance he's gonna
Speaker 1: punt with a minute left than with twenty seconds. I believe.
Speaker 1: I thought it was worse that Philly didn't run a
Speaker 1: play when it got down to thirty seconds than it
Speaker 1: was that McCarthy didn't call the time out of fifty
Speaker 1: and no one said a word about Philly not doing that.
Speaker 1: There's no it doesn't matter. The only thing you can
Speaker 1: argue for McCarthy calling a time out is that they
Speaker 1: want to get the ball at the ten yard line
Speaker 1: with fifty seconds left and do something. I don't think
Speaker 1: they did want to do anything because he was worried.
Speaker 1: He had a nice first half going. The Eagles were
Speaker 1: not gonna go for it. They couldn't move the ball
Speaker 1: all game. They're gonna take a risk with twenty seconds
Speaker 1: to miss it. And our good friend thinks, oh, there's
Speaker 1: not enough time. With thirteen seconds left from the fifty
Speaker 1: yard line to get a field goal. The other way
Speaker 1: they were not going for it. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Mikey agreed with us Gil on that text, but the
Speaker 1: best he could do, the best he could do was
Speaker 1: not the ten words you can see? Did you see
Speaker 1: how like Mikey he totally agrees with me and you,
Speaker 1: but he can't bring himself to be like confrontation for
Speaker 1: the person. So he hasashalam he should say anything bad,
Speaker 1: so he like he like sugarcoats, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you guys are kind of right, but he's not totally wrong,
Speaker 1: Kalila that he should say something for the other tribe.
Speaker 1: Like you know, Mike he's a great guy. Around Christmas
Speaker 1: time he tells you all about truth and virtuous men
Speaker 1: and people and all those beautiful poems. But when it
Speaker 1: comes time to agree with people, no, he's not where
Speaker 1: to be found. All right, final best bet here, did Todd?
Speaker 1: Did you want to snake? This? Because I'm the one
Speaker 1: who's had to duplicate twice? Here did you want to snake?
Speaker 1: Don't let you go first because I got because I
Speaker 1: got duplicated twice. My third one call me squares the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Uh is it six? And a half
Speaker 1: or seven, I don't even care. I'd rather have a
Speaker 1: six and that, but seven fine. UM. I just believe
Speaker 1: that this one is not what I'm going to overthink
Speaker 1: tom Brady. Obviously, the mainstream media want to talk about
Speaker 1: the narrative of Tom Brady going back to play to play,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. I think that Tom Brady and Gronk will
Speaker 1: be satisfied with no less than like seventeen touchdown basses
Speaker 1: between them. I think they will name their score, and
Speaker 1: I think there is no limit to how much they
Speaker 1: want to score in this game. And there is no
Speaker 1: way you just said it about the New England receivers.
Speaker 1: That offense cannot keep up with what Tampa Bay is
Speaker 1: about to destroy them with um and the New England
Speaker 1: will not be able to New England and have James White.
Speaker 1: They won't be able to run on this defense either.
Speaker 1: They can't do anything throwing the ball, even if Matt
Speaker 1: Brown knows exactly who to throw the ball to, the
Speaker 1: guys are not open. I don't hunder Henry for six
Speaker 1: yards is not an offense. I don't think that seven
Speaker 1: is nearly enough. I think the narrative of this big
Speaker 1: you know, revenge game that they're trying to make it
Speaker 1: out to be is what's actually keeping this muted. I
Speaker 1: think there should be way more than that. I'm taking
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and prove me wrong. New England's as simple
Speaker 1: as that. I agree with you, and you should take
Speaker 1: the over on two and a half touchdown passes by
Speaker 1: Tom Brady as well, because there is no way in
Speaker 1: hell they get inside the ten yard line and they
Speaker 1: run the football this week. He is going to if
Speaker 1: he can throw five touchdowns this week, you better bet
Speaker 1: your ass he's gonna throw five touchdowns this week, so
Speaker 1: they overall half touchdowns. What do you make of the
Speaker 1: New England defense. I think the New England defense is
Speaker 1: pretty good. They might be. Yeah, I think they're pretty good.
Speaker 1: And they were Hams from They can't move the ball.
Speaker 1: I think I can't recall a game where a team
Speaker 1: I thought was decent and I don't say Jets, I
Speaker 1: don't say Bear, but a team I thought was decent
Speaker 1: on offense could not get a yard without being covered.
Speaker 1: I kept telling me, look at this, Nothing is coming
Speaker 1: easy for New England every play and that's why it was.
Speaker 1: They had defenders draped on every receiver, no matter if
Speaker 1: what's five yards, fifteen yards, twenty five yards, It's just
Speaker 1: like the Steelers. You watch the Steelers, there's nobody running
Speaker 1: wide open. Every every time then completes the past, there's
Speaker 1: a guy draped on the receiver. You've got to have
Speaker 1: people in the NFL. I mean, you guys watched the games.
Speaker 1: When Tampa Bay receivers go out, the guys are wide open.
Speaker 1: They're standing there by themselves to catch the boats. Like ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's actually Zona Cardinals guys running wide open. If I
Speaker 1: may just be serious for a second, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: actually what you're doing, Todd is actually a great exercise
Speaker 1: that everybody should do with their series about handycapping football.
Speaker 1: This is why the advent of the all twenty two
Speaker 1: footage was such a big deal when it became available
Speaker 1: to everybody, like you know, Peter King. I probably told
Speaker 1: the story many times before. Peter King when he used
Speaker 1: to be a Giants beat reporter, used to have votes
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame, and now that he's a
Speaker 1: big maher national you know thing saw him at M
Speaker 1: I T and obviously being a Watchington football fan, I
Speaker 1: asked my go, you know, because I knew we voted
Speaker 1: against our monk all those years. And he's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Gary Clark was the guy we were afraid of in
Speaker 1: the eighties with the Skins and the Giants. And I said,
Speaker 1: if you had had the old if you had all
Speaker 1: the all twenty two footage, do you think you would
Speaker 1: have thought differently? Because you will see that the defense
Speaker 1: completely cares about monk, whereas Clark and Sanders get to
Speaker 1: run free. And he's like, well, you know what, actually
Speaker 1: I might have And so what you're doing is essentially
Speaker 1: that same exercise, which you know you won't get from
Speaker 1: your your general broadcast on a daily basis. I know
Speaker 1: Matt goes back and watches games too, and you can
Speaker 1: notice these things. And that's really football, right, that's where
Speaker 1: you can tell where the advantage is. And and Todd,
Speaker 1: you just mentioned these two teams, and these are the
Speaker 1: two teams. And this isn't for every bank roll, because
Speaker 1: I understand it takes a little bit bigger of a
Speaker 1: bank roll if you want to pile against teams in
Speaker 1: game whenever they're already losing, but if you're afforded to
Speaker 1: do so. The Patriots and the Steelers are both teams
Speaker 1: that in game I will pile against As long as
Speaker 1: they get down, I will continue to pile against them
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again end game
Speaker 1: because they're not built to come back. These teams cannot
Speaker 1: come back from double digit deficits. It's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: There's no wide receivers on the Patriot side that can
Speaker 1: get open at all. And and then you look on
Speaker 1: the Steeler side, Big Ben doesn't really want to push
Speaker 1: the ball down the field all that much anymore as
Speaker 1: it is anyway, and that team is not built to
Speaker 1: come from behind. So again it's it's not for everyone,
Speaker 1: but it is a strategy that I'm going to implore
Speaker 1: moving forward because they these teams are not coming back
Speaker 1: from double digit deficits, just not happening. I had I
Speaker 1: had New Orleans on the end game for that exact reason, because,
Speaker 1: by the way, New Orleans didn't do anything on offense.
Speaker 1: Two of their touchdowns came one on to pick six,
Speaker 1: one on what was almost to pick six. So it's
Speaker 1: not like New Orleans killed them on office. New Orleans
Speaker 1: won the game because they didn't make any mistakes and
Speaker 1: they let New England make the mistakes in New England
Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball ja Kobe Myers catching an eight
Speaker 1: yard outpass with a guy draped on him and then
Speaker 1: they throw it for five yards to Hunter Henry. That's
Speaker 1: not offense. You can't make an eight team play drive
Speaker 1: every time, you're gonna get stuck with field goals, which
Speaker 1: is what they always get stuck with field goals. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Bill Belichick didn't go for it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys noticed this. They were down
Speaker 1: fourteen nothing late first half and it was like fourth
Speaker 1: and one, I think, and he didn't go for it.
Speaker 1: And I think it's because he knew he couldn't nake it.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm telling you, if you watch these games,
Speaker 1: especially go back afterwards, you can pick up, like you
Speaker 1: were saying, Gil, you can pick up lots and nuggets
Speaker 1: of what's happening in these games. That's why I watched
Speaker 1: that Arizona game and I was shocked when it was thirteen.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just giving you guys the business.
Speaker 1: I mean, I personally think you were somewhat fortunate to
Speaker 1: cover that game. But when Jacksonville was up thirteen ten,
Speaker 1: they literally handed it to that Robinson guy every single
Speaker 1: play and they went right down the field. For Todd,
Speaker 1: urban Meyer just discovered that he has James Robinson like
Speaker 1: for two and a half games. He was like, maybe
Speaker 1: I should use this guy. I was like, he was
Speaker 1: a great rookie running back, and he went ahead and
Speaker 1: he drafted uh at the end on top of it,
Speaker 1: It's like he didn't even know what he had, and
Speaker 1: it's like he made a concession, like, you know, let's
Speaker 1: go with James Robinson. Oh wait, we went right down
Speaker 1: on the scored. Like I just feel like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: that was shocking to me that they could hand the
Speaker 1: ball off up thirteen eight times in a row. I mean,
Speaker 1: when do you see that in the NFL where you
Speaker 1: could just hand off eight times in a row and
Speaker 1: get a touchdown. It doesn't happen. And they just literally
Speaker 1: we're getting six seven eight yards of play the Cowboys
Speaker 1: they get The Cowboys did it with him at Smith
Speaker 1: to start the second half of the Super Bowl against
Speaker 1: the Bills, the one they didn't like, nine straight runs.
Speaker 1: They just kept running. Stop me if you get we
Speaker 1: gotta get Mike. You out of here. So you're number two,
Speaker 1: Pick your number three, pick my number three pick is
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. For all the reasons we talked
Speaker 1: about this Steelers, how poor this offensive team is. I mean,
Speaker 1: they can't even hand the ball off to nag Hers
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be hit in the back. They gotta
Speaker 1: throw it to him nineteen times been Ben big Ben
Speaker 1: looks to me like he's now a bottom third quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL. He's just he can't move and like
Speaker 1: you said, they're just jump balls. He's thrown up there
Speaker 1: to covered receivers. The Packers, I think the defense has
Speaker 1: improved since halftime of the of the Detroit Lion game.
Speaker 1: Was pretty impressed with him against San Francisco. I mean
Speaker 1: they got out todaylight there in that game and then
Speaker 1: had to come back. But uh, well, I think this game,
Speaker 1: if you can get less than a touchdown here in
Speaker 1: the six and a half, I think it's worth a play.
Speaker 1: So your play is on the Packers. The Packers Packers
Speaker 1: minus seven. I just want to say that, well, Ben
Speaker 1: roethlis Burger, you're you're taking a shot at my hometime
Speaker 1: come And I know everybody wants to say Ben Roethlisburger
Speaker 1: is done. And granted he can't move around, he can't
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff, no more. But he's got
Speaker 1: two problems. He's got no offensive vine. It looks like
Speaker 1: those guys aren't getting fed any big mills because they
Speaker 1: can't walk anybody. And he's got no separation in the
Speaker 1: wide receiver. He does, but you're giving him a lot
Speaker 1: of excuses there, Uyanzer, Like he can't throw the ball downfield.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm putting in the bottom half. But I'm
Speaker 1: not putting in the bottom third. I think bottom third
Speaker 1: is kind I'm putting. I thought I thought Mike ms book,
Speaker 1: I thought he met in the bottom three because the
Speaker 1: Bose guys are way bad where the Picksburg stores. This
Speaker 1: is one of the whole fame quarterbacks in the world. Okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: he is a Hall of Famer, but it's like it's
Speaker 1: painful to watch. Man. It's like bother time is undefeated,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's just one of those things.
Speaker 1: And and Mike, it's six and a half. Don't let
Speaker 1: him get Don't let you've been cheating us for years.
Speaker 1: Paul takes six and a half the lines right here,
Speaker 1: I got all sevens all the way across the board
Speaker 1: right here. You're telling me it's six and a half
Speaker 1: them on now six and a half. Where are those
Speaker 1: every legal book within a hundred miles of Green Bay?
Speaker 1: I mean, where are you getting those lines? Todd? You
Speaker 1: really have Like if we if we go do an
Speaker 1: autopsy of past years, you will have been Gilly. First
Speaker 1: of all, every single week I always said I was
Speaker 1: just the worker. You were the supervisor, and we would
Speaker 1: always say to you, Gilly, is this fair? And you
Speaker 1: would always give your fair share? That's true. But I've
Speaker 1: ceded that to you this year, and it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of shenanigans. I don't think there's anyanigans. I have
Speaker 1: minus seven plus one oh five grant you that you
Speaker 1: want to give Mikey minus six and a half for
Speaker 1: all the times he tried to steal half a point
Speaker 1: years past. Fine, well, if how about this, then there
Speaker 1: won't be there because there's there's no there's no juice
Speaker 1: difference at south point. It's six and a half at
Speaker 1: south point. So Michael take the six pence in the
Speaker 1: south point. Excellent point, man, excellent, there we go. All right,
Speaker 1: He'll take the We're gonna have seduca it's seduc a
Speaker 1: week here at the ballpark. Mikey gets six and a
Speaker 1: half Charity Sacaca, Neil Sedacca, Neil Sedaka. How come your
Speaker 1: Hebrew sucks so bad? Why do you do that ultra religious,
Speaker 1: horrible Hebrew? Because I was raised in a cult called
Speaker 1: ultra Orthodox Judaism, and this is how we talk. We
Speaker 1: have our own thing. We're not part of your whole
Speaker 1: secular June nonsense. For miss Okay, I here's what I do.
Speaker 1: I either do the full or ultra orthodox could or
Speaker 1: I renounced Judaism entirely one or the other. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I asked. You're in final pick, Matt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the two that I really really like, I'll say
Speaker 1: for the teaser here, because the numbers gone, I have
Speaker 1: a bet on the Chiefs. I have a bet on
Speaker 1: the Bucks as well, but I got those at five
Speaker 1: and a half, and so I'll make that the teaser
Speaker 1: leg whenever we can come back around. So for this,
Speaker 1: for this exercise here, I'll take the Cowboys against the Panthers. Um,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a team that we knew
Speaker 1: was going to have a fantastic offense coming in. But
Speaker 1: we thought, okay, fantastic offense is gonna get you. So far,
Speaker 1: if you can't stop the other team from scoring, it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Well, what we've gotten out of this
Speaker 1: defense so far, and all credit to Dan Quinn is
Speaker 1: he has stepped in and he's given multiple different looks.
Speaker 1: He is out there confusing people, giving uh really making
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks question whether they're making the right decisions or not.
Speaker 1: He took the bold stance of taking your number one
Speaker 1: pick that's a middle linebacker and sticking him at defensive
Speaker 1: end and saying, oh, by the way, you're too good
Speaker 1: and we have a weakness over here. You need to
Speaker 1: go and play defensive end. And he's done that very
Speaker 1: well as well. In No Carolina and Todd you said
Speaker 1: this earlier. You don't You didn't know what they're what
Speaker 1: their rankings were d B o A and all the
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It's one there, the number one rated
Speaker 1: defense d B o A in the NFL. That the
Speaker 1: number one, number one against the past number one against.
Speaker 1: The rush for Football Focus has them ranked number one
Speaker 1: as well, and all of this has to do with Look,
Speaker 1: you can only play the teams that are in front
Speaker 1: of you said this a couple of different times so far.
Speaker 1: But that being said, they've gotten the Jets in a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback making his first start in the NFL. They
Speaker 1: got the Saints Jamis Winston. The jury is still out
Speaker 1: on whether he this guy is any good or not.
Speaker 1: Like there, we we have no idea he had in
Speaker 1: the game that yeah, and and and they do, they
Speaker 1: do for sure, but whether he's good or not, I
Speaker 1: still can't. I still can't get there just yet. And
Speaker 1: then they got the Texans with Davis Mills making his
Speaker 1: first start in the NFL as well. Now you get
Speaker 1: one of the top ten quarterbacks in the league coming,
Speaker 1: you're going to his place in in there in us
Speaker 1: and J. C. Horne going down at corner was a
Speaker 1: very big thing for this team. He was playing very,
Speaker 1: very well as a rookie. Yes, they went out and
Speaker 1: traded for C. J. Henderson, But I don't know how
Speaker 1: well he's gonna be able to just step in on
Speaker 1: three days of practice, being in there, not knowing any
Speaker 1: of the defensive schemes, not knowing how they run that defense.
Speaker 1: He'll be good for them in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I don't know how good he's gonna be for them
Speaker 1: this week. The other thing that I like about this
Speaker 1: Dallas team is on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: They started to understand that they don't have to run
Speaker 1: everything through Ezekiel Elliott. This was probably from the top
Speaker 1: down where Jerry Jones was putting the mandate in, say
Speaker 1: you have to run Zeke twenty times a game. Well,
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is every bit is good and arguably better
Speaker 1: than Ezekiel Elliott is right now, and he's about getting
Speaker 1: fifty fifty all these touches in the times where it
Speaker 1: actually matters in the game. And I really like that
Speaker 1: they've gotten away from what they used to do and
Speaker 1: they've gotten into a spot where we're gonna do what's
Speaker 1: optimal for this team to win games. And Dak plus
Speaker 1: a Maria Cooper Ceedee Lamb plus Zekiel Elliott plus Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard there it's just a completely different animal from anything
Speaker 1: that the Panthers have seen so far. I'll take the
Speaker 1: I'll lay the four and a half with them at
Speaker 1: home against this Panthers team. I think this is when
Speaker 1: they start to come back down to earth. Man, do
Speaker 1: you draw a line somewhat through that Saints performance in
Speaker 1: Week two with all the COVID issues and the coaching
Speaker 1: and that week where they really didn't get the practice
Speaker 1: and they just were terrible. They only had six first downs,
Speaker 1: Carolina scored on the opening drive and totally dominated and
Speaker 1: then they came back and played so well against New England,
Speaker 1: at least defensively. I kind of draw a line through
Speaker 1: that Week two on the Saints. I've seen nothing offensively
Speaker 1: from them really all season, is the only thing for me, Mike.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a horrible spot, Like that was
Speaker 1: a terrible spot, but they haven't done anything in any
Speaker 1: of the games. And and you know, you look at
Speaker 1: that Week one where it's like, yeah, James through for
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, but I mean that was a bunch of
Speaker 1: short field situations. That was a budget that it was
Speaker 1: the deeper. This defense is awesome. The SSE defense is awesome.
Speaker 1: They have certainly put this offense in the best possible position,
Speaker 1: and they've run the ball fairly well. But again, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think that this offense is going to
Speaker 1: be able to get by with Jamis Winston at quarterback,
Speaker 1: playing the way that he's playing and having no receivers.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, they have no they have no
Speaker 1: receivers either on the team, so I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think this Cowboys team is for real. I put in
Speaker 1: a super Bowl future on them yesterday. I UM, I
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about about this team. I think they
Speaker 1: have a decent chance at getting the number one overall
Speaker 1: seat in the nfceat I hope people realize that we're
Speaker 1: listening to the show because the Megapod audience is often
Speaker 1: different from the Visa audience. Um and by the way,
Speaker 1: the first two shows of the year or the megapot
Speaker 1: are top five all timers at Visa in the podcast thing.
Speaker 1: But I hope folks who are unfamiliar with Matt realizing
Speaker 1: just from this show, you can tell Matt dives into football,
Speaker 1: dives into golf too, by the way, as deep or
Speaker 1: if not deeper than anybody I know, and is as
Speaker 1: sharp on both sports as anybody I know. And those
Speaker 1: are just two sports that I'm aware of. He probably
Speaker 1: probably has more, but I hope people realize that. And
Speaker 1: he's on Promptime Action everything all night. That's my plug
Speaker 1: for Primetime Action. You were too You're You're you're too
Speaker 1: kind it is. How do you feel about Matt? How
Speaker 1: do you feel about braun Be scoring in the last
Speaker 1: fifty minutes against leone in the europe I can tell you.
Speaker 1: I can tell you this. I have a new year's resolution,
Speaker 1: and my new year's resolution is to not bet one
Speaker 1: single time on soccer in the In all one I
Speaker 1: have made zero soccer bets. And so I've only got
Speaker 1: a couple of months to go. I might as well
Speaker 1: see this thing that was legit his new year's resolution.
Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, what are the odds
Speaker 1: on whether you will? Is it minus nine fifty? You're
Speaker 1: not going to? Oh yeah, at this point I've gotten
Speaker 1: this far. I'm I'm I've got NFL to keep me occupied.
Speaker 1: Todd Todd third and final best bet. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I hate to tell you, Danielle Collins straight set winner,
Speaker 1: my apologies, and what was the final straight set? Wanted
Speaker 1: l five and a half? Oh she would six to
Speaker 1: six four? So you would have done you did it?
Speaker 1: You bet it? Yes? Nice? Yes? Well play this five
Speaker 1: and a half pinus? Okay, uh my last pick, I
Speaker 1: am going to go with the I mean, I hate
Speaker 1: this board, as I always every week. I hate under
Speaker 1: forty five in the Broncos game. You know what, it's
Speaker 1: a Broncos game. They go under every week? Why do
Speaker 1: they go under every week? Because Petty two Gloves is
Speaker 1: gonna throw a little short passes. They're gonna run the ball,
Speaker 1: and they have a strong defense. I know the chub
Speaker 1: guys out, but I still think their defense is very good. Um,
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens. I think the Ravens. Matt talked
Speaker 1: about how the Ravens are getting a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: guys back on defense. That has to help defensively. I
Speaker 1: don't see Denver scoring a ton of points, maybe twenty.
Speaker 1: This game feels like twenty. A lot of field goals
Speaker 1: in this game. To me, I think both teams are
Speaker 1: gonna play well defensively. Both teams are gonna try to
Speaker 1: run the ball, which is always for the under. We
Speaker 1: love under running the football. And uh, you know, if
Speaker 1: you beat me, you beat me. But forty five it
Speaker 1: seems like a lot of points in the Denver Broncos game.
Speaker 1: So give me under forty five. And the Broncos against
Speaker 1: the Ravens, you think they're gonna score forty three, So
Speaker 1: you're going under forty five. That doesn't give you a
Speaker 1: lot of margin of air. Todd, Well, how many points
Speaker 1: do you think these games are off by Mike Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I usually like to have three and
Speaker 1: a half to four points off of a total before
Speaker 1: I make a total bet of what I think is Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I I was just giving an example of what you
Speaker 1: know could still happen. Twenty twenty was a lot of
Speaker 1: field goals. You know. That's three field goals for one
Speaker 1: team to field goals for another. I was trying to
Speaker 1: give an example of a lot of field goal getting Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I think it's gonna be seventeen. Now you happy? Wow,
Speaker 1: that's better. That's better. I like your pick better. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you? All right, Um, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know this odds on happens at the top of the air.
Speaker 1: So we've got a roll here teaser leg two teams
Speaker 1: six point teaser legs of the week, Matt Chiefs of
Speaker 1: Bucks Is. Both of those teams are going to roll.
Speaker 1: Look this Chiefs team is is still at the very
Speaker 1: top of the NFL and E P A P play
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball on early down
Speaker 1: success right or on the offensive side of the all
Speaker 1: the problem is is they just have had some really,
Speaker 1: really really bad turnovers and that's just not going to continue,
Speaker 1: and it's certainly not going to continue this week against
Speaker 1: this Philadelphia Eagles defense, who, by the way, we thought
Speaker 1: was going to be a strong suit for this team.
Speaker 1: It has not been so far this year. I do
Speaker 1: understand whatever you look at it, you say, but the
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense has been so bad. But Chiefs even look
Speaker 1: who the Chiefs have played. I mean, like, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have played a very tough schedule. Gil, you and I
Speaker 1: talked about this on the program before the NFL season started,
Speaker 1: where we said, hey, look, the Chiefs are still gonna
Speaker 1: be good, but this is not a cake walk to
Speaker 1: start this season. It is a like Brown's Ravens Chargers.
Speaker 1: It's not an easy way to start the season. And
Speaker 1: so yes, it has been a bad defense against really
Speaker 1: really good teams. Like all three of those teams are
Speaker 1: good playoff caliber teams. Now you get the Eagles, who
Speaker 1: are not bottom beaters. I've only got to get a
Speaker 1: one point win out of the Chiefs here, give me that.
Speaker 1: And for everything you mentioned earlier about the Bucks, like,
Speaker 1: I think this could be an absolute route in this thing.
Speaker 1: Not only that, get Antonio Brown back this week as well.
Speaker 1: So that's just one more weapon that Tom Brady has
Speaker 1: to attack because he's off of the COVID list as
Speaker 1: of today. So it's just a bad, bad, bad match
Speaker 1: up here. And typically the way that this Patriots team
Speaker 1: beats teams that are way better than them is Belichick
Speaker 1: out thinks the quarterback and he he knows a way
Speaker 1: to to really slow down. That's not happening with Tom
Speaker 1: Brady here. That's there. There's no chance that that's happening here.
Speaker 1: He is gonna feel zero pressure whatsoever. They're gonna roll
Speaker 1: as well. Give me one point wins with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and the Bucks this week. I absolutely love it. I
Speaker 1: cannot argue with it. I'm just I could do it too.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go Bucks. I don't see how you
Speaker 1: can't have the Bucks. Bucks and Bengals. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it tonight, Bucks and Bengals. If the Bengals go down,
Speaker 1: I'm going down hard. Every which way. Survivor teaser, every
Speaker 1: which way. So you're taking the Bengals in Survivor, I
Speaker 1: think I am. I think I yeah, you have one
Speaker 1: one left, You're gonna put it all in. I think so.
Speaker 1: I'm good luck to you, thank you. I think you
Speaker 1: have to I think that's the play rights. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to use the Bucks in the teaser. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go Chiefs type this poor Jets, This Sag Wilson. This
Speaker 1: kid just has nothing. I mean, he's got nothing to
Speaker 1: work with. Um. I'm impressed by the fact that the
Speaker 1: Titans we're able to bounce back from a poor performance
Speaker 1: against Arizona and rally on the road in Seattle. Slow
Speaker 1: down Russell Wilson in the second half. I just can't
Speaker 1: see this Jets team mustrain much. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a team that's gonna what are they gonna score in
Speaker 1: again thirteen? I mean, they're just they're terrible. They can't
Speaker 1: move the ball. He's got he's got no time, he's
Speaker 1: got no receivers to throw too. And and Matt talked
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs, Todd, I'm gonna take I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the Chiefs too. I also like the fact that the
Speaker 1: Chiefs lost last week, which means and the week before,
Speaker 1: which means they've got to you know, they've got to
Speaker 1: like start concentrating. I mean, clearly the Chiefs could easily
Speaker 1: be three and oh they were up thirty five twenty
Speaker 1: four and and um, Homes says that interception. They should
Speaker 1: have won that game, and they could easily one on
Speaker 1: Sunday as well, so we we all know about the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, the Eagles. I usually don't like
Speaker 1: going against the team that's been blown out the week before,
Speaker 1: but you're only asking the Chiefs to win the game.
Speaker 1: So I'll take the Chiefs minus the one. And uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, I like all the legs that you guys
Speaker 1: were talking about. I'm gonna go with the Bengals one too,
Speaker 1: because I just think the Bengals are a much better
Speaker 1: football team than um Jacksonville. I think going into Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: NOLBE at Pittsburgh is not good anymore. But still going
Speaker 1: on the road at Pittsburgh, and you know, they really
Speaker 1: just they handled the Steelers. It wasn't even like a
Speaker 1: close game. They handled the Steelers with no problem whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Now you're asking him to handle a Jacksonville team that's
Speaker 1: going on the road that doesn't seem to be that hard.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take Bengals in Chiefs urban Meyer if
Speaker 1: urban Meyer and the Jaguars can beat you, Tip of
Speaker 1: the cap, Tip of the cap. Alright, uh? Final two
Speaker 1: questions We always end the show with this sort of
Speaker 1: like an inside the actor studio kind of thing. Big
Speaker 1: favorite most likely to lose out right, Bengals, here are
Speaker 1: your candidates. Bengal seven and a half point favorites at
Speaker 1: home tonight against the Jaguars. Uh, Bills, Uh sixteen and
Speaker 1: a half or seventeen point favorites at home against the Texans,
Speaker 1: The Saints seven and a half point home favorites against
Speaker 1: the Giants, Titans. I'm a little scared about your Titans one,
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, that'll be your answer. That seven
Speaker 1: point favorites on the road against the Jets, Chiefs seven
Speaker 1: point favorites on the road against the Eagles. And finally,
Speaker 1: of course, oh no, a couple Packers six and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites at home against the Steelers, and the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers seven point favorites on the road against the Patriots,
Speaker 1: which Matt is the one most likely to lose out right.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll go with the Saints. Uh. The Giants
Speaker 1: have not been in on offense, and Daniel Jones has
Speaker 1: actually been pretty good so far this year, and the
Speaker 1: defense is really the thing that's been letting this Giant's
Speaker 1: team down. If they can step up even just a
Speaker 1: little bit, because again, the Saints offense, I just don't
Speaker 1: believe in it. So if I had to pick one,
Speaker 1: I'd take that. But honestly, uh, these are pretty good
Speaker 1: matchups for all these teams. Um, I'm gonna step in.
Speaker 1: I act really agree with you. I actually I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say the Saints. The difference is because we talked about
Speaker 1: this a little last night. Matter. You brought this up,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry sort of a get out of jail free
Speaker 1: card that even if everything else is going wrong for you,
Speaker 1: you just give him the ball and milk it to
Speaker 1: the end and just get out of Dodge with a win.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Saints have that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And if Jamis has bad Jamie's day, that would be
Speaker 1: the team that would lose. I think that's probably the
Speaker 1: best bed. I agree. I say Saints because I think
Speaker 1: the Giants are the best of the teams that are
Speaker 1: playing against these that are getting a touchdown? Right. I think,
Speaker 1: did you say Steelers, Green Bay? Nobody said Steeler screen
Speaker 1: What do you mean we all said the Saints. No? No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, did you pick is that one of the choices? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: six and a half. Yeah, yeah, okay, it's on youtuh.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of agree with you, guys, because
Speaker 1: I think the Saints. The Saints offense is really not
Speaker 1: that good, but the Saints defense is great. I think
Speaker 1: the Saints will win the game, but it wouldn't shock
Speaker 1: the world if the Giants, you know, pulled one out
Speaker 1: of their tons. Jiddish question. You're betting every year? You
Speaker 1: live in a bizarro world. You have to bet a
Speaker 1: side on all sixteen of these games, except for one.
Speaker 1: One game you get a free pass on. You want
Speaker 1: no part of it whatsoever. That game, Matt, would be
Speaker 1: Washington football team in the Atlanta Falcons. Who the hell
Speaker 1: are either one of these teams. I have no idea
Speaker 1: that that that easily for me. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't tell heads or tails either one of these
Speaker 1: teams right now. Two weeks ago, I said Giants Washington.
Speaker 1: Last week I said Atlanta and the Giants. So I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna actually obligated to Atlanta Washington this week.
Speaker 1: And those two games, by the way, I think it
Speaker 1: was sort of validated. They were impossible to figure out.
Speaker 1: In the end, I had to remind myself at Lanta
Speaker 1: even won that game last week in the week before,
Speaker 1: we remember they were Washington one on that Dexter Lawrence
Speaker 1: jumping off sides in a second Dustin Hopkins kick. So
Speaker 1: I think it's Atlanta Washington, even though I would really
Speaker 1: like to think that Chase Young and that defensive line
Speaker 1: are gonna be in the backfield all day long and
Speaker 1: they're gonna kill Maddie Ice. Washington better win because if
Speaker 1: they're one in three, they're gonna be one in seven
Speaker 1: or one in eight. Yours part of the Colts and Dolphins.
Speaker 1: No part of the Colts and Dolphins. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Really this bad, Yes, yes, they're bad. They're bad. They're
Speaker 1: really that bad. Parson Wentz Carson Wentz to retire embarrassment.
Speaker 1: The problem with Parson went He had that great season
Speaker 1: where he was so amazing. He's so amazing, Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: He's amazing, He's amazing, he's amazing. Then he got injured
Speaker 1: and ever since he has not been amazing anymore. So
Speaker 1: I think he's still he still gets that credit from
Speaker 1: being that great quarterback that one season. They're they're no good.
Speaker 1: The Colts are just not good. I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: You gotta watch the games. They're they're terrible. But okay, anyways,
Speaker 1: game that I don't want any part of is the
Speaker 1: Greats against that Charger because who knows what the hell
Speaker 1: is going to happen in this game. I know it's
Speaker 1: gonna come down to the end. There's gonna be some
Speaker 1: crazy ask fourth down that Gruden might go for. He
Speaker 1: doesn't go for the other team decide. The Chargers decided
Speaker 1: to go forward on fourth and nine. By the way,
Speaker 1: can we give them balls credit for going forward on
Speaker 1: fourth and nine? Well, at the end of I mean,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, what the hell were they doing? What
Speaker 1: the hell were they doing? That was a little that's
Speaker 1: a little while. I mean, especially they get so then
Speaker 1: they get the p I they converted, and they're like,
Speaker 1: okay that they're just gonna milk it down and kick
Speaker 1: the chip shop. Now, man, the idiot runs at the
Speaker 1: end zone. Well no, then they threw tore it into
Speaker 1: the end twice and there was a sixteen yard or
Speaker 1: Williams and Dave has to end with the thirty yard
Speaker 1: field goal, I mean twenty yard field I mean, what
Speaker 1: are you doing there? Why would you give it back
Speaker 1: to Momes and if he hits to hell, Mary, you
Speaker 1: lose because you brought the extra point. I mean, it works, sell.
Speaker 1: I was telling Gil about this. There was a game,
Speaker 1: some college game I was watching. I can't remember who
Speaker 1: it was, and I needed no more scores and for
Speaker 1: and it was one team was winning by one point.
Speaker 1: It was an Appalachian State game. They were winning by
Speaker 1: one and they had the ball and the other team
Speaker 1: there was a time out with from the twenty yard line.
Speaker 1: The other team told their players, don't tackle the guy
Speaker 1: because then we'll we'll be down eight and we'll at
Speaker 1: least get the ball back, right, So he was smart.
Speaker 1: Now the Appalachian State coach told his guys, if you
Speaker 1: get the first down, fall down. So this was the
Speaker 1: most ridiculous funny playing football. They handed off. They didn't
Speaker 1: even make it look like they were going to tackle them.
Speaker 1: They like parted the red seat for this guy that
Speaker 1: just run and he runs to like the six yard
Speaker 1: line and falls down. And that was the game. So
Speaker 1: they're starting to get smarter and smarter with these coaches.
Speaker 1: But I guess they weren't smart in the in the
Speaker 1: in the Chargers game, But that was really a funny
Speaker 1: game where the coaches are starting to realize, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: down one. I can't win unless I let them score.
Speaker 1: Both of the coaches were right, but then the app
Speaker 1: state bedders who were like, we're laying seven and a
Speaker 1: half and only one by one were like screaming, oh
Speaker 1: bad beat. They were never covering the whole game. So
Speaker 1: it was the right no, but it was the right play.
Speaker 1: It was the right football player. Get the first down,
Speaker 1: fall down, the game is over. Betters are funny, funny people.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody, thank you for listening to appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: the vice president of operations. And I should mention also
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